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- All right, let's chop and load.
- 2
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- <i>It was the third of June</i>
- 3
- 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:36,191
- <i>Another sleepy, dusty delta day</i>
- 4
- 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,629
- <i>I was out choppin' cotton</i>
- 5
- 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:45,873
- <i>And my brother was balin' hay</i>
- 6
- 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,314
- <i>And at dinner time we stopped</i>
- 7
- 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:55,872
- <i>And walked back to the house to eat</i>
- 8
- 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,200
- <i>And mama hollered out the back door</i>
- 9
- 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:02,839
- <i>Y'all, remember to...</i>
- 10
- 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:13,792
- Good evening, Officer.
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- 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,111
- Y'all need my license or anything, huh?
- 12
- 00:02:16,640 --> 00:02:18,393
- No, that's not necessary.
- 13
- 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,037
- That's a sharp-looking truck you got.
- 14
- 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:23,355
- Yes, sir. Thank you.
- 15
- 00:02:23,640 --> 00:02:26,235
- Those rims look like
- they cost you a pretty penny.
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- 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:29,634
- Who you been working for?
- 17
- 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,032
- Oh, no, sir. I don't work for nobody.
- 18
- 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:33,520
- Got my own pulping business.
- 19
- 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,956
- You know,
- I clear out all these trees around here.
- 20
- 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:38,830
- So, you ain't got no boss
- to check in with, huh?
- 21
- 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:41,519
- That must be pretty nice.
- 22
- 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:43,256
- Free to run up and down the road
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- 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:44,920
- wherever you want to,
- whenever you want to
- 24
- 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:46,593
- in this fancy truck.
- 25
- 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,793
- Hey, well, not if my wife
- got something to say about it.
- 26
- 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:54,670
- Yeah.
- 27
- 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,751
- I heard that ain't stopped you
- before, though.
- 28
- 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,199
- Ain't that right, Johnny D.?
- 29
- 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,672
- You want to make a break for it? Hmm?
- 30
- 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:16,056
- No, sir, I don't wanna do nothing...
- 31
- 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,151
- 'Cause after what you done...
- 32
- 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,709
- I'm looking for any excuse
- to get this over with
- 33
- 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:22,234
- right here, right now.
- 34
- 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,397
- Sir, I ain't did nothing and I think
- y'all got the wrong person here.
- 35
- 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,711
- Y'all got me confused with somebody.
- And I think...
- 36
- 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:30,314
- I ain't got you confused with nobody.
- 37
- 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:32,474
- I don't have a thing to do with this.
- 38
- 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,280
- Sir, you got me confused with somebody.
- I ain't did nothing wrong.
- 39
- 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,316
- <i>We all know Monroeville
- as the peaceful town</i>
- 40
- 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,790
- where Harper Lee wrote
- <i>To Kill a Mockingbird.</i>
- 41
- 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,676
- <i>Last year, that peace was shattered
- by a brutal crime.</i>
- 42
- 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,832
- <i>On the 1st of November,
- 18-year-old Ronda Morrison</i>
- 43
- 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,310
- <i>was found dead at Jackson Cleaners.</i>
- 44
- 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,757
- <i>Morrison had been strangled and shot
- by Walter McMillian,</i>
- 45
- 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,520
- <i>known locally as Johnny D.</i>
- 46
- 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:03,355
- <i>McMillian was convicted by a jury
- who recommended a life sentence.</i>
- 47
- 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:08,196
- <i>But today, Judge Robert E. Lee Key
- overrode their decision</i>
- 48
- 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,954
- <i>and sentenced McMillian to death.</i>
- 49
- 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,839
- <i>We promised the community
- that we would find him, and we did.</i>
- 50
- 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,239
- <i>You commit a crime like this in my town,</i>
- 51
- 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,670
- <i>one way or another,
- you're gonna pay for it.</i>
- 52
- 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:23,919
- <i>As McMillian awaits execution
- at Holman Correctional Facility,</i>
- 53
- 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,560
- <i>a grieving community
- can take some solace</i>
- 54
- 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,554
- <i>in knowing that, today,
- justice has finally been served.</i>
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- 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:50,720
- Thank you.
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- You got one hour.
- 57
- 00:05:29,280 --> 00:05:30,350
- Um...
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- Hi, Mr. Davis. I'm Bryan.
- 59
- 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:35,630
- Henry.
- 60
- 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:37,150
- Um...
- 61
- 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:39,680
- The Southern Prisoners
- Defense Committee,
- 62
- 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,399
- they sent me here to tell you that...
- 63
- 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:43,833
- That they don't have
- a lawyer for you yet,
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- 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,516
- - but they hope to soon.
- - You're not a lawyer?
- 65
- 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,592
- No. I'm still in school.
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- 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,119
- Just interning here for the summer.
- 67
- 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,757
- So, you can't tell me nothing
- about my case?
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- 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:59,871
- I mean, I was supposed to tell you...
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- that you're not at risk of execution
- any time within the next year.
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- 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:10,479
- Can you say that again?
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- 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,790
- That you're not at risk of execution
- any time within the next year?
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- 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,834
- That's the best news
- I've heard in a long time.
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- 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,311
- I didn't want my wife or kids...
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- 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,794
- showing up
- if I had an execution date coming.
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- 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:45,714
- Now they can come visit.
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- 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:49,236
- Thank you.
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- 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:51,550
- Thank you.
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- Serious.
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- 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,351
- My mom made me join our church choir
- when I was, like, four.
- 80
- 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,836
- I sang lead baritone
- all through high school.
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- 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:04,513
- I played piano at my church growing up.
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- 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:05,716
- AME?
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- God is good...
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- 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:07,936
- ...all the time.
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- 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:09,076
- All the time.
- 86
- 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,960
- A couple AME Choir boys
- hanging on death row.
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- 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:15,360
- My mom would go trip.
- 88
- 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:16,794
- Man, that's crazy.
- 89
- 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:18,439
- What school are you going to?
- 90
- 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,079
- I'm at Harvard.
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- 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:22,759
- Seriously? You're going to Harvard?
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- 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:24,755
- That's white-boy status, bro.
- 93
- 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,040
- What the hell are you doing
- slumming it up in here for?
- 94
- 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,756
- I'm in law school
- because I just wanted to help people.
- 95
- 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,639
- Just haven't figured out
- the best way to do that yet.
- 96
- 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,758
- Honestly, this internship
- has been the best experience so far.
- 97
- 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,520
- Working on death row
- has been your best experience?
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- 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,796
- You need to get out
- more, bro.
- 99
- 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,318
- Should've been done two hours ago.
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- - I'm sorry, I didn't realize.
- - Supposed to watch the clock.
- 101
- 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,514
- Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hey, hey, hey. Sir!
- 102
- 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:53,896
- Calm down, he didn't do anything!
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- 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:55,354
- You need to shut your mouth.
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- 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,113
- It's okay, Bryan.
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- Don't worry about me.
- You just come back.
- 106
- 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,357
- <i>I'm pressing on</i>
- 107
- 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,671
- <i>The upward way</i>
- 108
- 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:14,392
- <i>New heights I'm gaining every day</i>
- 109
- 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,110
- <i>Still praying as</i>
- 110
- 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,431
- <i>I'm onward bound</i>
- 111
- 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,032
- <i>Lord, plant my feet</i>
- 112
- 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,432
- <i>On higher ground</i>
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- 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,438
- - Mom still mad at you?
- - For what?
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- 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:47,520
- I don't know.
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- 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:51,196
- Maybe for rejecting all those job offers
- so you can be poor in Alabama.
- 116
- 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,920
- And Howie telling her about
- that lynching in Mobile didn't help.
- 117
- 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:55,832
- - What?
- - I said it happened seven years ago.
- 118
- 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:57,149
- Yeah, that made it better.
- 119
- 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,072
- You two were supposed to be on my side.
- 120
- 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:01,160
- Pop, how are we looking up there?
- 121
- 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:02,799
- Just added three quarts of oil.
- 122
- 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:04,496
- But you should check it again
- when you get there.
- 123
- 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:05,670
- All right, thanks.
- 124
- 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:07,754
- Talk to your mom yet?
- 125
- 00:09:14,560 --> 00:09:15,960
- What did those leaves do to you?
- 126
- 00:09:19,680 --> 00:09:21,478
- You're not gonna say bye to your son?
- 127
- 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,113
- I know you got your law degree now,
- and you think you're grown,
- 128
- 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:27,475
- but you're still my child.
- 129
- 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,760
- And I'm the one who has to deal
- with your funeral arrangements
- 130
- 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:32,109
- if you get killed down there.
- 131
- 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,476
- - Come on, Ma.
- - You think this is funny?
- 132
- 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:37,936
- 'Cause if you can't see the danger
- in what you're doing,
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- 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:39,997
- you need to ask Harvard
- for your money back.
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- 00:09:40,680 --> 00:09:42,319
- You used to be smarter than that.
- 135
- 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:00,996
- The first time I visited death row,
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- 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,589
- I wasn't expecting to meet somebody
- the same age as me.
- 137
- 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,591
- Grew up on the same music.
- From a neighborhood just like ours.
- 138
- 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:14,834
- Could've been me, Mama.
- 139
- 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,434
- I don't wanna move far away from you.
- I love you.
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- 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:23,456
- But you always taught me
- to fight for the people
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- 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,073
- who need the help the most.
- 142
- 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,199
- I am very proud of you, son.
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- 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:35,672
- I know your heart's in the right place.
- 144
- 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:38,760
- But it's not that simple.
- 145
- 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,674
- What you're doing is gonna make
- a lot of people upset.
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- 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:46,920
- You better be careful.
- 147
- 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:50,715
- I will.
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- 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:54,715
- I promise.
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- 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,191
- There she goes.
- 150
- 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:27,237
- <i>My line, your line</i>
- 151
- 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,630
- <i>Don't cross them lines</i>
- 152
- 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:36,114
- <i>What you like, what I like</i>
- 153
- 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,590
- <i>Why can't we both be right?</i>
- 154
- 00:11:41,560 --> 00:11:45,474
- <i>Attacking, defending</i>
- 155
- 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:50,152
- <i>Until there's nothing left worth winning</i>
- 156
- 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:52,474
- You gotta be kidding me.
- 157
- 00:11:52,560 --> 00:11:55,280
- We had an agreement to rent this space
- for two years.
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- 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:56,520
- You said it was a done deal.
- 159
- 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,616
- That's before I knew
- what you were doing here.
- 160
- 00:11:58,640 --> 00:11:59,856
- We are giving poor people
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- 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:02,076
- their constitutional right
- to counsel, Bill.
- 162
- 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,856
- Do you mind explaining to my son
- what you think is so wrong with that?
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- 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:05,950
- Eva, what's up?
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- 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:07,599
- Oh, Bryan. Thank God.
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- 00:12:07,680 --> 00:12:11,037
- This is the executive director
- of our organization.
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- 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:12,480
- He just got here and was expecting
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- 00:12:12,560 --> 00:12:14,677
- to move into the office
- that you promised us.
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- 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:16,918
- You said you were the director.
- 169
- 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:18,719
- Director of Operations.
- 170
- 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,400
- And you're making me look very bad
- in front of my boss right now.
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- 00:12:21,680 --> 00:12:22,796
- She said you were a lawyer,
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- 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,395
- but nobody told me
- it was for murderers on death row.
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- 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,196
- We're providing legal services
- to people who need help.
- 174
- 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,237
- And they'll have to do it
- someplace else.
- 175
- 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,277
- 'Cause I can't have people like that
- around here.
- 176
- 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,152
- Not everyone is in there
- for a good reason, sir.
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- 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:38,839
- Y'all have a good day now.
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- 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,075
- What a piece of shit.
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- 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,550
- I'm so sorry. This is not
- how I wanted to welcome you here.
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- 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:48,518
- I will find us an office,
- I promise you I will.
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- 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:49,875
- I just gotta change my tactics.
- 182
- 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:51,917
- It'll be fine.
- We can work from anywhere.
- 183
- 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,496
- Yeah, we'll just have Kris
- clean up his toys in the living room.
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- 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:55,749
- - Right, Kris?
- - Oh, yeah?
- 185
- 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,230
- I'll think about it.
- 186
- 00:12:58,360 --> 00:12:59,589
- I'm sorry for cussing, baby.
- 187
- 00:12:59,680 --> 00:13:00,680
- It's okay.
- 188
- 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:02,800
- He was a piece of shit, though.
- 189
- 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,832
- I was a psychology major writing a paper
- on capital punishment
- 190
- 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,719
- when I met my first death row inmate,
- Wayne Ritter.
- 191
- 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,354
- He and his friend robbed
- a pawn shop in Mobile.
- 192
- 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,120
- His friend shot the owner
- and they both got death.
- 193
- 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:19,999
- Is he the reason why you got into this?
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- 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,794
- His attorney was openly in favor
- of the death penalty.
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- 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:26,792
- He thought mad dogs ought to die.
- 196
- 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,879
- A lot of the folks on death row
- either had shitty representation
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- 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,794
- or none at all. So, I just started
- calling every law firm
- 198
- 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,520
- in the Yellow Pages, just trying
- to find anybody that could help.
- 199
- 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,039
- I was averaging 20 rejections a day.
- 200
- 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:42,394
- She was pretty stressed out.
- 201
- 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:44,832
- I was just about to give up
- 202
- 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,435
- when I got a call from a Harvard lawyer
- 203
- 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,989
- saying that he had just passed
- the Alabama Bar
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- 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,716
- and had federal funding
- to start a legal center
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- 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:54,359
- for inmates on death row.
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- 00:13:55,680 --> 00:13:57,797
- I was in before
- you even offered me the job.
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- 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:00,632
- And before you knew
- I couldn't pay you anything.
- 208
- 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:02,196
- What's that?
- 209
- 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:03,515
- Oh, yeah, Doug doesn't know
- 210
- 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:04,736
- about that part yet.
- 211
- 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:05,910
- - Sorry, honey.
- - All right.
- 212
- 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,196
- How's it going, son? You seem tired.
- 213
- 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:10,879
- Okay. Let's go brush your teeth.
- 214
- 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:11,996
- Excuse us.
- 215
- 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:15,640
- I'll make up the couch for you, Bryan.
- 216
- 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:18,800
- I'm excited about what you're doing.
- 217
- 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:22,560
- Me, too.
- 218
- 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:39,599
- I should be in the log.
- 219
- 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:41,399
- I'm scheduled to see six clients today.
- 220
- 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:45,594
- Well, I ain't seen you before.
- 221
- 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:48,599
- That's because I just moved here.
- 222
- 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:52,875
- You really a lawyer?
- 223
- 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:56,753
- Yes. I am.
- 224
- 00:15:58,440 --> 00:15:59,874
- Well, I'm gonna have to search you.
- 225
- 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,436
- Just go on in that room there
- and take everything off.
- 226
- 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,590
- Attorneys aren't strip-searched
- for legal visits.
- 227
- 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,837
- Well, you ain't gonna visit shit
- unless you get in that room and strip.
- 228
- 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:12,995
- Let's go.
- 229
- 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:34,075
- Pants and underwear.
- 230
- 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:02,674
- Bend over and spread.
- 231
- 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:12,480
- You're clear.
- 232
- 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,074
- <i>I fought in Nam.</i>
- 233
- 00:17:48,360 --> 00:17:50,033
- First Cavalry Division.
- 234
- 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,112
- Saw a lot of friends die.
- 235
- 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:02,030
- Doctor said I got PTSD.
- 236
- 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:09,120
- I did what they said I did. I...
- 237
- 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,120
- I put the bomb on her porch.
- 238
- 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:18,951
- I know it don't make sense...
- 239
- 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,439
- but I didn't mean to kill nobody.
- 240
- 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:33,877
- I think they're gonna
- set my execution soon.
- 241
- 00:18:35,120 --> 00:18:38,272
- Last lawyer said
- there ain't nothing left to do.
- 242
- 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:43,392
- There's always something that we can do.
- 243
- 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,719
- Whatever you did,
- your life is still meaningful.
- 244
- 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,834
- And I'm gonna do everything possible
- to keep them from taking it.
- 245
- 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,750
- Now, tell me everything that happened.
- 246
- 00:19:06,120 --> 00:19:10,672
- I was given a court-appointed lawyer,
- and he was pretty pitiful.
- 247
- 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:14,310
- Never really talked to me about
- setting up a defense.
- 248
- 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,153
- I probably met the dude three times.
- 249
- 00:19:18,120 --> 00:19:19,120
- Literally.
- 250
- 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,190
- <i>He told me that it would be
- in my best interest</i>
- 251
- 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,511
- <i>to plead no contest
- to all of those charges.</i>
- 252
- 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,120
- I'm gonna plead not guilty.
- 253
- 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,795
- I said, "I didn't do it.
- I didn't have nothing to do with that."
- 254
- 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:30,997
- "You're 20 right now,
- if you take this plea
- 255
- 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,756
- and you do the whole time,
- you'll only be 45 when you get out."
- 256
- 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,960
- <i>In the middle of my trial,
- which only lasted</i>
- 257
- 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,552
- 45 minutes to a hour,
- which is unheard of...
- 258
- 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:45,953
- He wouldn't let me take the stand.
- So, they ended up finding me guilty.
- 259
- 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:50,040
- The judge laughed at me and said
- rehabilitation was a 70-year-old joke.
- 260
- 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,150
- <i>My lawyer, he was there,
- but he wasn't there.</i>
- 261
- 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:57,313
- It was like I was by myself.
- 262
- 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,795
- Last lawyer I had,
- sitting where you sit, said...
- 263
- 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,241
- "Johnny D., don't worry about nothing,
- everything gonna be all right."
- 264
- 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,557
- Then they put that death sentence on me.
- 265
- 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:30,997
- Family run out of money.
- 266
- 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:32,719
- Money run out, he run out.
- 267
- 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,034
- What you gonna do different?
- 268
- 00:20:41,360 --> 00:20:43,496
- Well, the first thing we could do
- is apply for a retrial.
- 269
- 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,477
- I already did that. They denied it.
- 270
- 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,194
- It's right there in your files.
- 271
- 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,914
- Okay, then we can ask
- for a reconsideration on that.
- 272
- 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:57,976
- Then a direct appeal
- to the Court of Criminal Appeals
- 273
- 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,435
- and work our way up
- to the State Supreme Court.
- 274
- 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,876
- If we get denied there,
- we could file a Rule 32.
- 275
- 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:04,360
- Then a federal habeas petition.
- 276
- 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,216
- And if all that fails, Mr. McMillian,
- we could take your case
- 277
- 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:08,336
- all the way to the Supreme Court.
- 278
- 00:21:08,360 --> 00:21:10,397
- You don't know what you into
- down here, do you?
- 279
- 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,000
- You think all of them fancy words
- 280
- 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,037
- gonna get you somewhere
- around here in Alabama?
- 281
- 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,871
- All they gonna do
- is eat you alive and spit you out
- 282
- 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,158
- just like every other black man they do,
- when they step out of line.
- 283
- 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,072
- You coming around here
- with them fancy suits,
- 284
- 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,669
- talking all white, these people
- don't give a damn about that.
- 285
- 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,480
- The only suit they wanna see a nigga in
- is the suit I got on.
- 286
- 00:21:33,360 --> 00:21:35,016
- Mr. McMillian,
- I can see how that could be hard...
- 287
- 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:36,440
- No, you don't!
- 288
- 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,633
- No, you don't.
- No, you don't. No, you don't.
- 289
- 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,399
- You a rich boy from Harvard,
- you don't know what it is down here.
- 290
- 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,516
- When you're guilty
- from the moment you born.
- 291
- 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,360
- And you can buddy up with
- these white folks and make them laugh
- 292
- 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,397
- and try to make them like you,
- whatever that is,
- 293
- 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,696
- and you say, "Yes, sir. No, ma'am."
- But when it's your turn,
- 294
- 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,313
- they ain't got to have no fingerprints.
- 295
- 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:04,835
- No evidence.
- 296
- 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,391
- And the only witness they got
- made the whole thing up.
- 297
- 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,836
- Ain't none of that matter,
- when all y'all think is
- 298
- 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,274
- is I look like a man...
- 299
- 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,274
- who could kill somebody.
- 300
- 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,439
- But that's not what I think.
- 301
- 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,080
- Mmm.
- 302
- 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,393
- You know how many people have been freed
- from Alabama death row?
- 303
- 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:39,796
- None.
- 304
- 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,790
- What make you think
- you gonna change that?
- 305
- 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:54,634
- I ain't doing this shit again.
- 306
- 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:56,799
- - Guard.
- - Mr. McMillian...
- 307
- 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:58,553
- We done here.
- 308
- 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,199
- Mr. McMillian, please.
- 309
- 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,436
- I'm here to help.
- 310
- 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,080
- - What's up, Johnny D.?
- - Say hello!
- 311
- 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:12,953
- How's it going, my brother?
- 312
- 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:14,190
- How'd it go?
- 313
- 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,880
- How you treating them needs,
- motherfucker?
- 314
- 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:41,600
- Johnny D.?
- 315
- 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,039
- Johnny D., you there?
- 316
- 00:23:45,120 --> 00:23:46,236
- 'Sup, Herb?
- 317
- 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:48,676
- Ray there?
- 318
- 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:52,430
- Ray.
- 319
- 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,513
- Unavailable at the moment.
- 320
- 00:23:56,360 --> 00:23:58,477
- Where you at?
- 321
- 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,352
- Buckingham Palace.
- I'm having tea with the queen.
- 322
- 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:03,920
- Huh.
- 323
- 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,152
- She's a very nice lady.
- I'll let you know when we done.
- 324
- 00:24:09,120 --> 00:24:12,272
- Hey, Johnny D.,
- what you think of the lawyer?
- 325
- 00:24:13,120 --> 00:24:14,349
- I think he a kid.
- 326
- 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,634
- Don't know what he's talking about.
- 327
- 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,075
- Making all these promises
- he ain't gonna be able to keep.
- 328
- 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:23,992
- I... I thought he was nice.
- 329
- 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,274
- Nice?
- 330
- 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,437
- The hell you want a nice lawyer for?
- 331
- 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,317
- Nice ain't gonna get you shit.
- 332
- 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:32,595
- Look at Johnny D.
- 333
- 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,157
- Nice as a puppy, yet he in here with us.
- 334
- 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,116
- Well, I didn't know
- you thought about me like that, Ray.
- 335
- 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,431
- I mean, just you nice and everything...
- 336
- 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,796
- You not as nice as La Toya Jackson,
- 337
- 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,395
- but for a old man on the row,
- you a'ight.
- 338
- 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,279
- Hey, I thought you said
- I was the old man.
- 339
- 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,195
- Well, Johnny D. is old, Herb,
- you more ancient.
- 340
- 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,518
- Sorry to tell you.
- 341
- 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:01,949
- Herb, turn that music up.
- 342
- 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,070
- You got it.
- 343
- 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,515
- All right. Here...
- 344
- 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:26,915
- Bryan...
- 345
- 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:29,794
- did you get any sleep?
- 346
- 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,194
- I, uh...
- 347
- 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,034
- I don't think McMillian did it.
- 348
- 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,637
- The state based its entire case
- on the testimony of one man.
- 349
- 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,154
- Ralph Myers.
- 350
- 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,436
- Myers spent most of his life
- in and out of prison.
- 351
- 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,274
- When he testified,
- he was on trial for a different murder,
- 352
- 00:26:46,360 --> 00:26:47,920
- which he ended up getting 30 years for.
- 353
- 00:26:48,360 --> 00:26:49,760
- Seems like a pretty good deal.
- 354
- 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,674
- In his statement, he said that
- Johnny D. approached him at a car wash
- 355
- 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:57,391
- and forced him at gunpoint to drive to
- Jackson Cleaners because his arm hurt.
- 356
- 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:58,880
- That sounds logical.
- 357
- 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,976
- When they get there, Johnny D.
- tells him to wait in the truck
- 358
- 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,275
- while he goes inside.
- 359
- 00:27:02,360 --> 00:27:04,556
- And while he's waiting
- for his kidnapper,
- 360
- 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,597
- he doesn't run,
- he doesn't go to the police.
- 361
- 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,639
- Instead, he drives to the liquor store
- for cigarettes
- 362
- 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,473
- and then comes back to the crime scene.
- 363
- 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:13,350
- Excuse me?
- 364
- 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,591
- Myers hears gunshots, goes inside
- 365
- 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,912
- and sees the body of Ronda Morrison
- lying on the ground, face up,
- 366
- 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,151
- and Johnny D. standing over her
- with a gun
- 367
- 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,358
- with some older white guy
- who he claimed was in charge.
- 368
- 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,672
- - Anyone trying to look for him?
- - Exactly.
- 369
- 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,432
- Oh, wait. They have one other witness
- to back his testimony.
- 370
- 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,432
- A young black man named Bill Hooks.
- 371
- 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,318
- Says he saw Johnny D.'s low-rider truck
- 372
- 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,790
- leaving the cleaners
- around the time of the murder.
- 373
- 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:38,880
- And that's it.
- 374
- 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:40,640
- That's all they have.
- 375
- 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:42,960
- Hmm.
- 376
- 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,596
- So, an 18-year-old white girl
- is murdered in broad daylight
- 377
- 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,680
- and the sheriff can't solve the crime
- for how long?
- 378
- 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,154
- Almost a year.
- 379
- 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,358
- And then some other guy
- who's charged with a different murder
- 380
- 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,160
- says that he can tell them who did it
- if he gets a lower sentence.
- 381
- 00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,320
- And the guy that he says did it
- 382
- 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,676
- happens to be a black man
- from a poor community
- 383
- 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,240
- that no one would think twice about.
- 384
- 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,273
- There's gotta be
- more evidence than this.
- 385
- 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,678
- I want to set a meeting with the DA.
- 386
- 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,314
- Tommy Chapman just took over for Pearson
- a few months ago.
- 387
- 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:18,474
- He used to be a public defender.
- 388
- 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,112
- Maybe he's not in line
- with the rest of 'em.
- 389
- 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,112
- You visit the Mockingbird Museum yet?
- 390
- 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:41,560
- Uh, no, ma'am.
- 391
- 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,360
- It's the old courthouse
- Harper Lee's daddy used to work in.
- 392
- 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,675
- You can stand right where
- Atticus Finch once stood.
- 393
- 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,514
- - Mr. Stevenson? I'm Tommy Chapman.
- - Hey.
- 394
- 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:55,795
- - You find us okay?
- - I did.
- 395
- 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,434
- - Good. Follow me.
- - Yeah.
- 396
- 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:58,749
- Thank you, Tracy.
- 397
- 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,839
- A lot of people are very keen
- to meet you, Mr. Stevenson.
- 398
- 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,718
- - Oh, really?
- - Well, you're a Harvard lawyer
- 399
- 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,519
- who's moved to Alabama.
- 400
- 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,956
- You know, you start taking on
- all these capital cases,
- 401
- 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,999
- people just wanna know
- what your intentions are, I guess.
- 402
- 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,536
- We're just trying
- to give legal assistance
- 403
- 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:14,835
- to people who can't afford it.
- 404
- 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,479
- Well, legal assistance is one thing,
- 405
- 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,760
- but trying to put convicted murderers
- back on the street
- 406
- 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,200
- is something else entirely.
- 407
- 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,416
- Anyway, you didn't come
- all the way down here
- 408
- 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:24,715
- to talk about that.
- 409
- 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,200
- What can I do for you today, Bryan?
- 410
- 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,240
- I wanted to speak to you
- about Johnny D. McMillian.
- 411
- 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,312
- You know I wasn't part
- of his prosecution, right?
- 412
- 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:32,800
- That was way before my time.
- 413
- 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,111
- And that's exactly
- why I wanted to meet you.
- 414
- 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,336
- You see, I've read through the record
- quite a few times now
- 415
- 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,319
- and I have some serious doubts
- about the reliability of his conviction.
- 416
- 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,960
- If you could take a look
- at the sections I've highlighted here,
- 417
- 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,870
- you'll see some problems
- with Ralph Myers' testimony.
- 418
- 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,558
- Man, this is one of
- the most outrageous crimes
- 419
- 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:54,879
- in Monroe County history.
- 420
- 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,072
- Your client made
- a lot of people very angry.
- 421
- 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,712
- I understand that, but there are
- some serious problems with this case.
- 422
- 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,553
- And I was hoping
- that I can get your support
- 423
- 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,279
- to figure out what really happened.
- 424
- 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:08,880
- I already know what happened.
- 425
- 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,109
- Johnny D. McMillian
- was convicted by a jury
- 426
- 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,113
- of brutally murdering a teenage girl
- in my community.
- 427
- 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,830
- And it is my job to defend
- the integrity of that conviction.
- 428
- 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,400
- Even if that conviction
- is based on false testimony?
- 429
- 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,711
- You're the only one I know
- who thinks that.
- 430
- 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,712
- Then I must be the only one
- who read that record
- 431
- 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,598
- because it's pretty obvious.
- 432
- 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,199
- That man caused a lot of pain.
- 433
- 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,079
- A lot of pain for folks around here.
- 434
- 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,797
- And if you go digging in those wounds...
- 435
- 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,356
- you're gonna be making
- a lot of people very unhappy.
- 436
- 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,351
- Well, it isn't my job
- to make people happy.
- 437
- 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,432
- It's to achieve justice for my client.
- 438
- 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:01,356
- Well...
- 439
- 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,280
- Ralph Myers' two confessions
- and a statement from Bill Hooks.
- 440
- 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,434
- I asked for copies of all the police
- and witness statements.
- 441
- 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:13,749
- That's what you're holding.
- 442
- 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,593
- This is a joke. Where's the rest of it?
- 443
- 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,876
- That's what's relevant
- to the McMillian case.
- 444
- 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,794
- If you want more, you'll have to file
- a discovery motion with the court
- 445
- 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,280
- just like anybody else.
- 446
- 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,830
- Thanks for coming by today,
- Mr. Stevenson.
- 447
- 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:28,869
- Expect that motion soon.
- 448
- 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,440
- I'll look forward to it, Counselor.
- 449
- 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,435
- You oughta check out
- the Mockingbird Museum
- 450
- 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:35,670
- on your way out of town.
- 451
- 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,835
- It's one of the great civil rights
- landmarks of the South.
- 452
- 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,394
- Hmm.
- 453
- 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:55,715
- Keep in line.
- 454
- 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,877
- Helping a black man
- convicted of killing a white girl
- 455
- 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,917
- is political suicide in that county.
- 456
- 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,879
- I'm sure he's being reminded of that
- by whoever got him his job.
- 457
- 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,475
- The way he was talking,
- I don't even think he read the record.
- 458
- 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:12,994
- That doesn't surprise me.
- 459
- 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,994
- Hey, Kris, Bobby,
- come on in and get your snack.
- 460
- 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:18,120
- Okay.
- 461
- 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,920
- I'm gonna stop by Jackson Cleaners
- on my way to meet his family.
- 462
- 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,759
- <i>Okay. If I don't hear from you
- by morning,</i>
- 463
- 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,160
- I'll send a rescue party.
- 464
- 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:25,720
- <i>I hope that's a joke.</i>
- 465
- 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,075
- Me, too.
- 466
- 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,398
- But just be careful, okay?
- 467
- 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:50,510
- That's him.
- 468
- 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,871
- - You the lawyer?
- - Yes, ma'am.
- 469
- 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:55,553
- My name is Bryan Stevenson.
- 470
- 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:56,994
- I'm Johnny D.'s wife, Minnie.
- 471
- 00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:58,950
- Pleasure to meet you.
- 472
- 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,714
- Thank you so much
- for driving all the way out here.
- 473
- 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,679
- - Most lawyers barely make time to call.
- - Hmm.
- 474
- 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,191
- This is our younger son, John.
- Our baby girl, Jackie.
- 475
- 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:16,710
- I hope you don't mind,
- 476
- 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,634
- a few of our neighbors stopped by
- to hear what you got to say.
- 477
- 00:34:19,720 --> 00:34:22,758
- Oh, just a few?
- 478
- 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,633
- - Come on. You'll be all right.
- - Okay.
- 479
- 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,639
- Hey, now, we ain't gonna get nowhere
- 480
- 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,911
- with everybody quacking
- at the same time.
- 481
- 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,673
- Now, let Mr. Stevenson talk.
- 482
- 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:46,160
- Um... It's a pleasure
- to meet all of you.
- 483
- 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:49,275
- Thank you. Um...
- 484
- 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,951
- Now, I know you all
- have a lot of questions,
- 485
- 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,271
- but I really would love to hear
- from you guys first,
- 486
- 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,876
- just to get a better understanding
- of your perspective on things.
- 487
- 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,874
- Our perspective is ain't no way
- Johnny D. did this crime.
- 488
- 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,437
- The morning that girl was killed,
- 489
- 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,594
- we was all having a fish fry here
- to raise money for the church.
- 490
- 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,639
- - Johnny D. was here. Morning till night.
- - Mmm-hmm.
- 491
- 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,194
- Working on his truck with John.
- 492
- 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:18,794
- You were with your dad that day?
- 493
- 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,313
- Yeah, we was up at 6:00 in the morning
- to put the truck on the rack.
- 494
- 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:23,720
- Jimmy was there, too.
- 495
- 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,359
- Yep. We had that tranny
- 496
- 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,160
- - cleaned out by 9:30.
- - Mmm-hmm.
- 497
- 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,470
- Now, how he supposed to kidnap
- 498
- 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,031
- some crazy white man
- all the way in Evergreen,
- 499
- 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:39,558
- then drive back to Jackson Cleaners
- to kill that girl at 10:15
- 500
- 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,075
- - if his truck ain't got no transmission?
- - Hello.
- 501
- 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,511
- How many of you all
- were with Walter that morning?
- 502
- 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,994
- My husband could have never done this,
- no kind of way.
- 503
- 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,675
- Whether we was with him or not,
- he is just not like that.
- 504
- 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,120
- Well, everybody know they went after him
- 'cause of that woman.
- 505
- 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:09,960
- Sorry, Minnie.
- 506
- 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:12,480
- It's okay.
- 507
- 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:15,355
- It ain't no secret.
- 508
- 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,016
- A few months before the murder,
- 509
- 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,635
- Johnny D. got caught messing around
- with a white woman in town.
- 510
- 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,230
- When her husband find out about it,
- he made sure everybody knew.
- 511
- 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:30,030
- People started talking,
- and the stories kept growing.
- 512
- 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,954
- He went from being a cheat,
- to a drug dealer,
- 513
- 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:34,952
- to head of the Dixie Mafia.
- 514
- 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:36,918
- So, by the time
- somebody call him a murderer,
- 515
- 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,071
- ain't nobody thought twice about it.
- 516
- 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:40,833
- They can call it what they want,
- 517
- 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,196
- this is just another way
- to lynch a black man.
- 518
- 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:44,560
- Amen.
- 519
- 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,000
- Amen.
- 520
- 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,400
- There ain't no excuse
- 521
- 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,392
- for what my husband did to me
- and this family.
- 522
- 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:51,714
- Damn fool hurt me bad.
- 523
- 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,079
- But he still the daddy of my kids.
- 524
- 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,616
- And I really don't know
- what I'm supposed to tell them
- 525
- 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,678
- about staying out of trouble
- when you can be in your own house
- 526
- 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,798
- minding your own business,
- surrounded by your entire family
- 527
- 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,872
- and they still going to put
- some murder on you.
- 528
- 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:11,710
- That's right.
- 529
- 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:12,880
- It's not just Dad.
- 530
- 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,271
- We feel like they put us all
- on death row, too.
- 531
- 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:19,390
- Baby...
- 532
- 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,389
- I can only imagine
- the pain that you're going through.
- 533
- 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:25,720
- But I'm gonna do everything I can.
- 534
- 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,031
- The last lawyer was talking
- just as big as you.
- 535
- 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:29,176
- John...
- 536
- 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,351
- Then they took all our money and split.
- 537
- 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:33,315
- Why you different?
- 538
- 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:39,359
- Well, our organization will cover
- all legal fees,
- 539
- 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,433
- so none of you
- will ever have to pay a penny.
- 540
- 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,200
- Now, it's clear to me that this trial
- was constructed with lies...
- 541
- 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,836
- and based off everything that I've seen,
- 542
- 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,640
- I think we could build a case
- strong enough to bring Johnny D. home.
- 543
- 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,749
- And I'm not gonna stop
- until I've done that.
- 544
- 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,752
- Well, you seem like good people to me.
- 545
- 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,917
- But Johnny D.'s the one
- you gonna have to convince.
- 546
- 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,356
- I don't know about the rest of y'all,
- 547
- 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,473
- but I was sold on,
- "Y'all won't pay a penny."
- 548
- 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:21,796
- Amen.
- 549
- 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:29,834
- Mr. Stevenson?
- 550
- 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:30,990
- Call me Bryan.
- 551
- 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:33,150
- Okay.
- 552
- 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,354
- This is my friend, Darnell.
- 553
- 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,520
- He has something
- he wants to talk to you about.
- 554
- 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:43,320
- Go on.
- 555
- 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:47,753
- I think I can prove he's innocent.
- 556
- 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:51,640
- You heard of Bill Hooks, right?
- 557
- 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:53,840
- Yeah.
- 558
- 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,560
- He testified
- that he saw Johnny D.'s truck
- 559
- 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:56,800
- at the cleaners that morning.
- 560
- 00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:58,596
- Bill didn't see shit.
- 561
- 00:38:59,720 --> 00:39:00,915
- He made the whole thing up.
- 562
- 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,320
- How do you know that?
- 563
- 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,279
- 'Cause I was with him.
- We was working at the shop together.
- 564
- 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,192
- - The morning of the murder?
- - Yes, sir.
- 565
- 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,351
- We was fixing the head gasket
- on the Camaro
- 566
- 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,911
- from 8:00 in the morning
- till right after we closed for lunch.
- 567
- 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,036
- He was right next to me
- when them sirens was going off.
- 568
- 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:23,360
- Why would he lie?
- 569
- 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,478
- 'Cause the snitch
- cut a deal with the cops.
- 570
- 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:27,776
- They had him locked up for burglary,
- 571
- 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,996
- and the day he give his statement,
- he walk out free.
- 572
- 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:31,275
- All charges dropped.
- 573
- 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,760
- We told one of the other lawyers,
- and they ain't do nothing about it.
- 574
- 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:36,315
- Hmm.
- 575
- 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,640
- Would you be willing to sign a statement
- we could use in court?
- 576
- 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,319
- Police will see my name?
- 577
- 00:39:49,240 --> 00:39:50,515
- It'd be on the record.
- 578
- 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:57,240
- Darnell, exposing yourself like this
- is not easy.
- 579
- 00:39:58,600 --> 00:39:59,875
- But with your testimony,
- 580
- 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,560
- we can file a motion
- to reopen Johnny D.'s case.
- 581
- 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,149
- Darnell...
- 582
- 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:08,880
- we need you.
- 583
- 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:15,280
- Okay, yeah.
- 584
- 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:16,953
- Okay.
- 585
- 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:18,395
- Yeah, that'll do it.
- 586
- 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:20,556
- All right.
- 587
- 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:38,760
- Good morning.
- 588
- 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:40,636
- Good morning.
- 589
- 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:42,994
- Thanks for seeing me again.
- 590
- 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:44,150
- Mmm-hmm.
- 591
- 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,357
- I know the last time we met,
- things didn't go quite the way I was...
- 592
- 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,511
- I can't believe you met my family.
- 593
- 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,832
- Drove down that dirt road,
- crammed up in that little house,
- 594
- 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,992
- talked to all my people,
- say you gonna try to fight for me.
- 595
- 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:06,549
- That mean a lot.
- 596
- 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:10,759
- It meant a lot to me, too.
- 597
- 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:14,274
- Oh, uh...
- 598
- 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,876
- Minnie wanted me to give this to you.
- 599
- 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,234
- And if you don't mind,
- I have something I wanna show you.
- 600
- 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,120
- It's a statement from Darnell Houston...
- 601
- 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:31,673
- saying that he was with Bill Hooks
- 602
- 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,871
- three miles away
- at the time of the murder.
- 603
- 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,236
- So, there's no way he could have seen
- your truck there.
- 604
- 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,240
- That's good, right?
- 605
- 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:39,595
- That's very good.
- 606
- 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,835
- I'm gonna submit this
- with a motion for a new trial.
- 607
- 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,670
- I know you talked to Minnie.
- She told you what I did to her.
- 608
- 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,536
- I ain't got no excuse for cheating
- on a woman good as that one,
- 609
- 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,040
- good as she been to me.
- 610
- 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:03,793
- I don't know why she's standing by me.
- 611
- 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,719
- She's standing by you because she knows
- you shouldn't be in here.
- 612
- 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,234
- And so do I.
- 613
- 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,192
- I know you didn't kill Ronda Morrison.
- 614
- 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,440
- And I can help you prove that in court
- if you'll let me.
- 615
- 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,951
- You know, you done met my whole family.
- You know everything about 'em.
- 616
- 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,073
- I don't know nothing about you, though.
- 617
- 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:34,936
- - What would you like to know?
- - I wanna know it all.
- 618
- 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,759
- Like why you... Why you doing this?
- 619
- 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,354
- - Why am I a lawyer?
- - No, no, no.
- 620
- 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,193
- Why is you a lawyer down here in Alabama
- 621
- 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,920
- taking these cases
- that ain't nobody gonna pay you for?
- 622
- 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,397
- I grew up down a road just like yours.
- 623
- 00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:01,673
- I played soccer in a dirt field
- with the pigs and chickens.
- 624
- 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,193
- Used to pump sewage from my yard.
- 625
- 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:14,198
- When I was a teenager, my grandfather
- was murdered over a black-and-white TV.
- 626
- 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,435
- We kept waiting for someone
- to show up to help.
- 627
- 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:23,320
- They never did.
- 628
- 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:30,157
- And that's when I realized that,
- outside my community, nobody cared.
- 629
- 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,392
- 'Cause to them, he's just another
- black man killed in the projects.
- 630
- 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:41,919
- I know what it's like to be
- in the shadows.
- 631
- 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:46,480
- That's why I'm doing this.
- 632
- 00:43:50,720 --> 00:43:52,200
- That's a pretty good reason.
- 633
- 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:03,035
- Okay.
- 634
- 00:44:05,720 --> 00:44:06,870
- Okay...
- 635
- 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:10,715
- Let's get to work.
- 636
- 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:15,310
- Okay.
- 637
- 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,556
- - Hey, yo, Johnny D.?
- - Mmm-hmm.
- 638
- 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,037
- You signing up with that lawyer?
- 639
- 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:38,918
- I'm gonna give him a try.
- 640
- 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,390
- Seem like everybody on the row
- working with him now.
- 641
- 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:43,914
- I'm starting to feel left out.
- 642
- 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:46,953
- Is he really that good?
- 643
- 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:50,110
- I hope so.
- 644
- 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:52,359
- What you think, Herbert?
- 645
- 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,716
- Should I just dump my guy
- and make the switch over?
- 646
- 00:44:58,440 --> 00:44:59,669
- Herb, you hear me?
- 647
- 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:01,870
- You there?
- 648
- 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:05,036
- I'm here.
- 649
- 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:08,150
- Herb, you okay?
- 650
- 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,876
- They set my date.
- 651
- 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:25,856
- Look here, Herb,
- don't you worry about nothing now.
- 652
- 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:27,951
- Everything gonna be a'ight. Okay?
- 653
- 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,793
- Ain't nothing over yet.
- You got Bryan working for you now.
- 654
- 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,199
- I ain't like you guys.
- 655
- 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,911
- I deserve what's coming.
- 656
- 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:40,957
- All right, now, see, Herb...
- 657
- 00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:43,559
- there you go talking out your ass.
- 658
- 00:45:45,240 --> 00:45:47,038
- Now, you fought for this country.
- 659
- 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,351
- And they threw you in the bag
- like the trash.
- 660
- 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,516
- That war made you sick
- in your head, man.
- 661
- 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,239
- You supposed to be in the hospital.
- 662
- 00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:59,156
- Not here.
- 663
- 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,950
- When I told the cops that stopped me
- I was innocent,
- 664
- 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:08,479
- do you know what they said?
- 665
- 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:12,314
- "One of you niggers did it...
- 666
- 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:17,395
- and if it wasn't you,
- then you taking one for your homie."
- 667
- 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:24,115
- Johnny D. prosecutor say he know
- he killed the girl
- 668
- 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,476
- because of the way he looked
- in his mug shot.
- 669
- 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,119
- You don't deserve this shit
- more than any of us, Herb.
- 670
- 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,149
- A girl is dead because of me.
- 671
- 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,916
- That don't give nobody the right
- to kill you back.
- 672
- 00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,555
- <i>Herbert was 18
- when he went to Vietnam.</i>
- 673
- 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:54,031
- He was the only survivor in an ambush
- that killed his whole platoon.
- 674
- 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,991
- After that, he had a mental breakdown,
- attempted suicide,
- 675
- 00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:59,958
- and was sent home
- on an honorable discharge.
- 676
- 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:04,833
- Back at home, he continued to suffer
- from nightmares, crying fits...
- 677
- 00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,913
- running out of his house,
- screaming "incoming" to his neighbors.
- 678
- 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:10,800
- His lawyer didn't even mention
- military service
- 679
- 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:12,593
- or mental trauma to the jury.
- 680
- 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,912
- A few months after the trial,
- he was disbarred for misconduct.
- 681
- 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:17,116
- 'Course he was.
- 682
- 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,194
- Okay, what can we do?
- 683
- 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,236
- Well, since he's already been through
- the appeals process,
- 684
- 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,671
- the statute of limitations is gonna
- make it hard for a judge to listen.
- 685
- 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,600
- We're gonna have to try and make him.
- 686
- 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:35,753
- I'll get started on the motion tonight.
- 687
- 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:37,240
- - Hello?
- - Okay.
- 688
- 00:47:38,720 --> 00:47:40,234
- It's for you, Mom.
- 689
- 00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,880
- Oh, thank you, sweetie. Hello?
- 690
- 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,920
- <i>You the bitch
- working for that nigger lawyer?</i>
- 691
- 00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:48,200
- Who the hell is this?
- 692
- 00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:49,953
- <i>The guy who put the bomb
- under your house</i>
- 693
- 00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:51,554
- <i>gonna blow your family all to hell</i>
- 694
- 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,195
- <i>if you don't stop working
- for that nigger Johnny D.</i>
- 695
- 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,080
- Everybody, out of the house.
- 696
- 00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:58,913
- - What's going on?
- - I'll tell you outside.
- 697
- 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:18,714
- They didn't find anything.
- 698
- 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:21,190
- And they're sure?
- 699
- 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:23,673
- They said they're sure.
- 700
- 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:25,376
- They checked the basement, too,
- like you said?
- 701
- 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,520
- - Said they checked the basement.
- - Okay.
- 702
- 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,280
- All right,
- we're gonna move on now.
- 703
- 00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:36,877
- Okay, baby, let's get you to bed.
- 704
- 00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:38,876
- Yo, come on.
- 705
- 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,270
- When you asked me
- to do this thing with you...
- 706
- 00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,439
- I knew that I'd lose some friends.
- 707
- 00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:01,515
- Have people talk shit behind my back,
- or to my face.
- 708
- 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:05,720
- I don't need people to like me,
- 709
- 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,598
- as long as I'm doing
- what I'm supposed to do.
- 710
- 00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:13,953
- But threatening my family...
- 711
- 00:49:18,720 --> 00:49:22,999
- Eva, you know I'd never blame you
- if you needed to stop.
- 712
- 00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:28,839
- I don't want my son growing up knowing
- 713
- 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,560
- that his mom stopped doing
- what was right
- 714
- 00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,235
- just because she was scared
- of some crazy bigot.
- 715
- 00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:41,710
- Okay?
- 716
- 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,233
- What are we gonna do about McMillian?
- 717
- 00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:50,958
- We start the investigation from scratch.
- 718
- 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,757
- Find anyone in town
- who's willing to talk.
- 719
- 00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:01,480
- Maybe people will stop trying to kill us
- once they realize how charming we are.
- 720
- 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:12,997
- I just wanted to ask you
- a couple questions
- 721
- 00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:14,753
- about the Ronda Morrison murder.
- 722
- 00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:16,993
- Uh, it's just...
- 723
- 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:18,896
- You were on the witness list
- 724
- 00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:20,416
- for the Ronda Morrison trial
- a few years back.
- 725
- 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,636
- Sorry. Can't help you with that.
- 726
- 00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,776
- Is there anything, anything at all
- that you feel comfortable talking...
- 727
- 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:27,800
- You know, look,
- 728
- 00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,196
- if you are not working
- for that poor girl's family
- 729
- 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:31,736
- then I ain't got nothing to say to you.
- 730
- 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:33,114
- Sorry, sweetie.
- 731
- 00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:36,236
- Officer Ikner?
- 732
- 00:50:37,720 --> 00:50:39,200
- I ain't no officer no more.
- 733
- 00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,551
- I'm a lawyer representing
- Johnny D. McMillian.
- 734
- 00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,596
- I understand you were the first officer
- on the scene.
- 735
- 00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:52,760
- <i>I was right.</i>
- 736
- 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,480
- The fish fry
- was on Saturday, November 1st.
- 737
- 00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:56,994
- The same day as the murder.
- 738
- 00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:58,434
- They put these up all over town.
- 739
- 00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,796
- I could kiss you, Deb.
- 740
- 00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:09,936
- <i>We're planning to grow this
- into something</i>
- 741
- 00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:11,917
- <i>the whole country will be talking about.</i>
- 742
- 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,799
- And you can say
- that it all started in your building.
- 743
- 00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,520
- What exactly kind of work do you do?
- 744
- 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:21,520
- We're just helping people.
- 745
- 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:29,576
- - It looks good.
- - It's perfect.
- 746
- 00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,176
- My client, Herbert Richardson,
- was recommended for a Medal of Valor
- 747
- 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:33,793
- for disarming a bomb in Vietnam.
- 748
- 00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,793
- We got a tip that a few
- of your employees could back his alibi.
- 749
- 00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:38,473
- Vivian Clark was one of the teenagers
- 750
- 00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,472
- who were sexually abused
- at your facility.
- 751
- 00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:41,560
- No, I'm not an attorney,
- 752
- 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,439
- but I promise you,
- your son is in very good hands.
- 753
- 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:48,110
- We'll let you know.
- 754
- 00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,556
- - Yeah, very soon.
- - Good talking to you.
- 755
- 00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:54,952
- Equal Justice Initiative.
- This is Brenda.
- 756
- 00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,277
- Yeah. Okay. Yes. Uh-huh.
- Just one moment.
- 757
- 00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:01,115
- Darnell Houston.
- 758
- 00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:05,434
- Hello, Darnell?
- 759
- 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,273
- Whoa. Whoa, whoa.
- Slow down, slow down, slow down.
- 760
- 00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:12,556
- Where are you?
- 761
- 00:52:15,240 --> 00:52:17,914
- - Are you okay?
- - No, sir, I'm not.
- 762
- 00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,393
- Okay, Darnell,
- let's go talk in the car. Okay?
- 763
- 00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,235
- How in the hell
- they locking me up for perjury
- 764
- 00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,357
- if alls I did was say the truth? Hmm?
- 765
- 00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:34,956
- I knew I shouldn't have
- signed that paper, man.
- 766
- 00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:36,256
- Shouldn't have listened to you.
- 767
- 00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,476
- No. What they did to you
- was completely illegal.
- 768
- 00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,216
- Okay? Now, I'm gonna talk to the DA
- and get all these charges dismissed.
- 769
- 00:52:41,240 --> 00:52:42,799
- This will never happen again.
- 770
- 00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:44,314
- Well, how the hell do you know?
- 771
- 00:52:45,240 --> 00:52:46,799
- You can't control these guys.
- 772
- 00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,036
- They arrested me
- in the middle of my shift,
- 773
- 00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,032
- in front of my boss.
- 774
- 00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,430
- I don't even know
- if I got a job tomorrow.
- 775
- 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,635
- I feel bad,
- what they doing to Johnny D...
- 776
- 00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,233
- but I'm just trying to survive.
- 777
- 00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,233
- I can't fight these guys, man.
- 778
- 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,032
- Go on and find somebody else.
- 779
- 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:18,033
- Listen, Darnell.
- Think about Johnny D., okay?
- 780
- 00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:20,559
- Think about his family. They need you.
- 781
- 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:22,959
- Give me some time to work on this.
- 782
- 00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:32,554
- That's my ride.
- 783
- 00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:35,833
- Tell Johnny D. I'm sorry.
- 784
- 00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:11,914
- I need to speak with you.
- 785
- 00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,637
- Oh, hey, Bryan.
- 786
- 00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:18,400
- Have you met Sheriff Tate?
- 787
- 00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:23,353
- Who ordered the arrest of my witness?
- 788
- 00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,993
- When people make false statements
- concerning this case,
- 789
- 00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:28,673
- they're gonna be held accountable.
- 790
- 00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:30,016
- You can't arrest someone for perjury
- 791
- 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,350
- without evidence
- that a false statement has been made.
- 792
- 00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,160
- Hang on. Are you representing
- Mr. Houston now, too?
- 793
- 00:54:35,240 --> 00:54:36,310
- Yes, I am.
- 794
- 00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,960
- His statement contradicts
- Bill Hooks' entire testimony.
- 795
- 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,430
- Hooks ain't the state's main witness.
- Ralph Myers is.
- 796
- 00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,796
- Alabama Code 12-21-222
- 797
- 00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,475
- requires corroboration
- of accomplice testimony.
- 798
- 00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,075
- So, without Hooks,
- the conviction wouldn't be valid.
- 799
- 00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:55,397
- You know, I went down to see
- Ronda Morrison's momma yesterday.
- 800
- 00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:57,840
- And she's in tears.
- 801
- 00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:01,231
- She kept asking me
- why some lawyer from up north
- 802
- 00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,478
- would come down here and make them
- relive all this hell again.
- 803
- 00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,839
- Well, you can tell her it's because
- Johnny D. didn't kill her daughter.
- 804
- 00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,196
- And whoever did
- is still out there somewhere.
- 805
- 00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:12,430
- Hmm.
- 806
- 00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:17,349
- I know how desperate you must be
- 807
- 00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,274
- to fulfill your fantasy
- of who we are down here.
- 808
- 00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,996
- Just a bunch of corrupt Southern racists
- framing niggers for murder.
- 809
- 00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:27,633
- And you here to save the day.
- 810
- 00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:30,957
- Well, hell, you can believe that
- if you want to,
- 811
- 00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:33,951
- but I know
- that Johnny D. killed that girl,
- 812
- 00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:35,315
- and he's gonna answer for it.
- 813
- 00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,799
- And how do you know that?
- You have no hard evidence.
- 814
- 00:55:39,720 --> 00:55:42,110
- You based your entire case
- on the word of an indicted felon
- 815
- 00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,376
- who had every incentive
- to tell you what you wanted to hear.
- 816
- 00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,596
- Ralph Myers testified on his own accord.
- 817
- 00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:47,875
- And it made no sense.
- 818
- 00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,395
- He couldn't finish a sentence
- without contradicting himself.
- 819
- 00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,516
- Now, the charges against Darnell Houston
- are baseless.
- 820
- 00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:55,880
- They'll never stand up in court.
- 821
- 00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:58,519
- They should be dropped immediately.
- 822
- 00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:04,475
- Okay.
- 823
- 00:56:06,720 --> 00:56:08,040
- Is that okay with you, Tommy?
- 824
- 00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:09,636
- Sure.
- 825
- 00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,033
- Well, it doesn't really matter
- 826
- 00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,271
- now the court denied your motion
- to reopen the case.
- 827
- 00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:17,110
- Wait, what was that?
- 828
- 00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:19,877
- Oh, you didn't get the order?
- 829
- 00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:22,479
- Well, the judge is down in Mobile now,
- 830
- 00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:24,677
- so, you know,
- sometimes they have mail issues.
- 831
- 00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:27,553
- Listen, you can tell Mr. Houston
- 832
- 00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:29,096
- the charges against him
- are being dropped.
- 833
- 00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:30,216
- I can do that much for y'all
- 834
- 00:56:30,240 --> 00:56:32,550
- but anything else
- will have to be raised on appeal.
- 835
- 00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:41,559
- Thanks for stopping by, Counselor.
- 836
- 00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:54,756
- <i>I want to see my mother</i>
- 837
- 00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,071
- <i>All I want</i>
- 838
- 00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,391
- <i>Whoa</i>
- 839
- 00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,035
- <i>To see my mother</i>
- 840
- 00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,231
- <i>Child, I want</i>
- 841
- 00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,634
- <i>To see my mother</i>
- 842
- 00:57:09,720 --> 00:57:14,078
- <i>I'm going home to live...</i>
- 843
- 00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:25,240
- Something wrong, Officer?
- 844
- 00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:26,595
- Step out of the vehicle.
- 845
- 00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,075
- I don't understand. I wasn't speeding.
- 846
- 00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:32,114
- I said step out of the vehicle.
- 847
- 00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:34,590
- I'll get out of the car,
- 848
- 00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:36,712
- but first can you tell me
- why you stopped me?
- 849
- 00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:39,536
- - Get out of the goddamn car!
- - Whoa!
- 850
- 00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:41,597
- Whoa, whoa. Okay, okay. Hold on.
- 851
- 00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:43,000
- - Come on!
- - Okay.
- 852
- 00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:44,673
- Okay. I'm taking off my seat belt.
- 853
- 00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:46,911
- - Get it! Come on!
- - Okay. I'm opening up the door.
- 854
- 00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:48,096
- - I'm stepping out.
- - Faster! Come on!
- 855
- 00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,112
- - Okay. I have nothing in my hands.
- - Turn around!
- 856
- 00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,078
- - Yes. Okay. Okay.
- - Hands on the car!
- 857
- 00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:01,711
- You don't have to have the gun
- pointed at me.
- 858
- 00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:05,555
- - I'm not a threat.
- - Shut your damn mouth, boy.
- 859
- 00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:06,720
- Hey, brother...
- 860
- 00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,878
- you ought to be careful with your words
- when you got a gun at your head.
- 861
- 00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:16,470
- Let's go, John.
- 862
- 00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:27,120
- Why did you stop me?
- 863
- 00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:28,475
- We're letting you go.
- 864
- 00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:31,435
- You should be happy.
- 865
- 00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:01,595
- Even if they drop them charges,
- 866
- 00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,673
- Darnell ain't gonna testify
- after what they done done to him.
- 867
- 00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,309
- I know we took a big hit. We did.
- 868
- 00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,176
- But we just need to gather more evidence
- for another motion.
- 869
- 00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,016
- No, no. They gonna block it.
- They gonna block it.
- 870
- 00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:16,431
- If they can put me on the row for a year
- without no trial,
- 871
- 00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:17,954
- they can do whatever they wanna do.
- 872
- 00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,351
- They put you on death row
- before your trial?
- 873
- 00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:22,840
- Yeah.
- 874
- 00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:24,513
- Sheriff drove me himself.
- 875
- 00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:28,276
- Said, "I'm gonna give you a little taste
- of what it's like unless you confess."
- 876
- 00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:31,296
- Why are you just now telling me this?
- 877
- 00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:32,754
- This is how it is down here.
- 878
- 00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:36,792
- Been like this long as I can remember.
- 879
- 00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:46,798
- They messing with you, ain't they?
- 880
- 00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,792
- Yeah, they are.
- They're not making it easy on me.
- 881
- 00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:58,600
- I got a plan for you, though.
- 882
- 00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:00,916
- I'm all ears.
- 883
- 01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:03,696
- This what I think we should do.
- 884
- 01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,872
- I think you should train up
- another lawyer
- 885
- 01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,600
- 'cause I'm gonna need somebody
- just in case they take you out.
- 886
- 01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:14,154
- Oh, it's like that?
- 887
- 01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:17,278
- Like that. It's like that.
- 888
- 01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:18,919
- Thought I had a friend.
- 889
- 01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:20,116
- Ain't no friends in here.
- 890
- 01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:21,600
- - Cold world.
- - Yeah.
- 891
- 01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:26,874
- So, we ain't got Darnell.
- 892
- 01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:30,070
- What's the next move?
- 893
- 01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:36,518
- I think we should talk to Ralph Myers.
- 894
- 01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:41,880
- - Walter...
- - No.
- 895
- 01:00:41,881 --> 01:00:43,281
- Just listen to me for a second.
- 896
- 01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:46,878
- I know it's risky,
- 897
- 01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:48,880
- but the only way to find out
- what he really knows
- 898
- 01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:50,474
- is for me to get him talking.
- 899
- 01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:53,080
- I know what he know.
- 900
- 01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:57,519
- You know what that man did to me?
- 901
- 01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:01,040
- Took my life away from me...
- 902
- 01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:04,109
- to save his own ass.
- 903
- 01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:07,798
- All he gonna give you is lies.
- 904
- 01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:11,638
- I promise I'm gonna be careful.
- 905
- 01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:22,000
- Get in line.
- 906
- 01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:42,000
- Mr. Myers.
- 907
- 01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:44,429
- You Bobby?
- 908
- 01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:46,829
- I'm Bryan.
- 909
- 01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:49,356
- Maybe later.
- 910
- 01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:52,597
- Okay. Do you wanna sit down?
- 911
- 01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:55,993
- You gonna buy me a Coke first?
- 912
- 01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:59,194
- Or you gonna make me stare
- at them vending machines all day?
- 913
- 01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:02,479
- Sure. What do you want?
- 914
- 01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:04,754
- Sunkist orange.
- 915
- 01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:06,509
- Okay.
- 916
- 01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:08,398
- And some Jujyfruits, if they got 'em.
- 917
- 01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:14,756
- I just want to say
- thanks for meeting me, Mr. Myers.
- 918
- 01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,393
- Can we start by talking about
- your testimony against Johnny D.?
- 919
- 01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:30,675
- No.
- 920
- 01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:33,440
- I ain't talking about him.
- 921
- 01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:36,592
- That's the only reason why I'm here.
- 922
- 01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:38,239
- You don't like it, leave.
- 923
- 01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:43,360
- Aw, don't look so sad.
- We can talk about other things.
- 924
- 01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:44,590
- I love to talk.
- 925
- 01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:47,670
- My wife says if I got paid
- for every word I said,
- 926
- 01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:49,717
- we'd be a couple of billionaires by now.
- 927
- 01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:53,910
- Oh, yeah?
- 928
- 01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:56,193
- How long you been married?
- 929
- 01:02:56,280 --> 01:03:00,433
- Long enough to pop out a couple of kids
- and watch her turn 'em all against me.
- 930
- 01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:01,749
- You got kids?
- 931
- 01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:03,155
- Me? No.
- 932
- 01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:05,480
- But Johnny D. does.
- 933
- 01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:08,480
- Yeah.
- 934
- 01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:11,678
- The thing about kids is
- they ain't nothing like having a dog.
- 935
- 01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:13,389
- It's a totally different deal.
- 936
- 01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:15,711
- I wish somebody had told me that
- in the first place.
- 937
- 01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:19,674
- And my kids,
- they think they got it so bad.
- 938
- 01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:22,119
- They ain't seen nothing like I seen.
- 939
- 01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:25,640
- Try making it as a foster kid
- your whole life.
- 940
- 01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:27,440
- As soon as you figure out
- one shitty parent,
- 941
- 01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:29,000
- they moving you to a new one.
- 942
- 01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:33,555
- Uh...
- 943
- 01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:35,280
- I'm sorry.
- 944
- 01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:37,434
- I'm sure that wasn't easy.
- 945
- 01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:44,680
- How many kids he got?
- 946
- 01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:48,274
- Johnny D. has three.
- 947
- 01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:54,400
- Mr. Myers, I know you
- made a deal with the state.
- 948
- 01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:58,033
- But I don't think they told you
- Johnny D. was gonna die because of it.
- 949
- 01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:01,632
- That must not be an easy thing to carry.
- 950
- 01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:05,799
- And I'm hoping there's a part of you
- that wants to make things right.
- 951
- 01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:12,631
- Can we please talk about your testimony?
- 952
- 01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:20,120
- Hey. Hey!
- 953
- 01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:31,720
- From the day they moved my ass
- into Escambia...
- 954
- 01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:34,914
- for something I'm telling you
- I ain't had nothing to do with,
- 955
- 01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,832
- all them police wanted to talk about
- was Ronda Morrison.
- 956
- 01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:40,991
- It was Morrison this, Morrison that.
- 957
- 01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:43,754
- Sometimes four or five of 'em
- in the room at the same time.
- 958
- 01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:48,159
- They were questioning you about her
- the day you were arrested?
- 959
- 01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:52,360
- Alls I'm saying is...
- 960
- 01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:57,075
- ain't nobody cared about a damn thing
- besides who killed that girl.
- 961
- 01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:59,038
- And when people care
- about a thing that much,
- 962
- 01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:01,112
- they'll do anything
- to get what they want.
- 963
- 01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:05,880
- You know they'll kill you
- if you get to the bottom of this, right?
- 964
- 01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:08,879
- Wait. Where are you going?
- 965
- 01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:10,679
- We done here, Bobby.
- 966
- 01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:12,359
- Thanks for the Jujys.
- 967
- 01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:15,035
- Ready, boss.
- 968
- 01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:20,856
- <i>Myers said he was questioned
- about Ronda Morrison</i>
- 969
- 01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:22,758
- the day he was arrested, on June 3rd.
- 970
- 01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:24,496
- But the only statement
- they presented in court
- 971
- 01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:26,989
- <i>was recorded almost two months later.</i>
- 972
- 01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:29,390
- Do you think they're hiding
- his first statement somewhere?
- 973
- 01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:32,600
- If they are, it might be
- at the Escambia courthouse
- 974
- 01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:34,120
- with the files from his other case.
- 975
- 01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:35,674
- <i>You know anyone over there?</i>
- 976
- 01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:37,789
- I do.
- 977
- 01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:44,157
- That's everything we got on Myers.
- 978
- 01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:45,480
- You can make copies over there.
- 979
- 01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:47,592
- - Thank you, ma'am.
- - Sure, baby.
- 980
- 01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:52,077
- He's cute. Married?
- 981
- 01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:54,311
- Married to his work.
- 982
- 01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:55,720
- How's Uncle Mickey doing?
- 983
- 01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:05,280
- Miss Miller.
- 984
- 01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:07,669
- Can I take a copy of these?
- 985
- 01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:10,672
- They ain't paying me enough to stop you.
- 986
- 01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:27,034
- Did you find the transcript
- from Myers' first statement?
- 987
- 01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:30,277
- - Yeah.
- - Thank you.
- 988
- 01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:38,120
- What?
- 989
- 01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:48,016
- <i>I understand that, Sheriff.</i>
- 990
- 01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:49,156
- That's Myers.
- 991
- 01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:50,800
- <i>And that's what I'm trying to tell you.</i>
- 992
- 01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:54,794
- <i>Because, I'm gonna be honest with ya,
- I don't know a damn thing.</i>
- 993
- 01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:57,016
- <i>Is that right?</i>
- 994
- 01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:58,235
- And that's Tate.
- 995
- 01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:00,960
- <i>Yes, sir. It's righter
- than anything I've ever said.</i>
- 996
- 01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:04,080
- <i>And you would take
- a polygraph test</i>
- 997
- 01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:06,954
- <i>to the fact that you do not know
- who killed Ronda Morrison?</i>
- 998
- 01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:08,474
- <i>That's right, sir. I will.</i>
- 999
- 01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:10,976
- <i>Would you face the person</i>
- 1000
- 01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:12,296
- <i>who came in here
- and testified that you...</i>
- 1001
- 01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:15,313
- <i>I will face any damn body
- in this world on that</i>
- 1002
- 01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:17,392
- <i>because it's a stone lie.</i>
- 1003
- 01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:20,917
- <i>And if you asking me to frame
- an innocent man for murder,</i>
- 1004
- 01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:23,071
- <i>well, thatjust ain't something
- I'm willing to do.</i>
- 1005
- 01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:28,190
- Holy shit.
- 1006
- 01:07:58,400 --> 01:07:59,800
- Herb, you all right over there?
- 1007
- 01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:04,000
- - Hmm?
- - No.
- 1008
- 01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:08,875
- Now, listen here, you gonna have to get
- your mind off tomorrow.
- 1009
- 01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:11,995
- Bryan is working on that as we speak.
- 1010
- 01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:15,353
- Now, you know how these courts here is.
- 1011
- 01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:18,672
- They wait till the last minute,
- but you gonna get that stay.
- 1012
- 01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:22,037
- Why did I make that bomb?
- 1013
- 01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:24,273
- Herb, don't go there now.
- 1014
- 01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:25,680
- Why'd I do that?
- 1015
- 01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:28,878
- I wasn't trying to hurt nobody.
- 1016
- 01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:30,195
- Herb, I know.
- 1017
- 01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:34,475
- Why am I so stupid?
- 1018
- 01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:36,478
- No, no, you ain't stupid.
- 1019
- 01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:39,635
- That war got you sick,
- and you still sick.
- 1020
- 01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:42,476
- Girl wasn't supposed
- to come by and pick it up.
- 1021
- 01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:45,871
- Listen, Herb. I want you to...
- 1022
- 01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:47,872
- She wasn't supposed to come by
- and pick it up.
- 1023
- 01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:50,873
- This what we gonna do, Herb.
- We gonna slow your mind down.
- 1024
- 01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:53,714
- Remember what we practiced now.
- What we do?
- 1025
- 01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:57,871
- - Deep breaths.
- - Yeah. Yeah.
- 1026
- 01:08:57,960 --> 01:08:59,120
- Come on, do that with me now.
- 1027
- 01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:01,837
- Deep breaths.
- 1028
- 01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:05,949
- In and out.
- 1029
- 01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:11,835
- Now in.
- 1030
- 01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:15,634
- Now close your eyes.
- 1031
- 01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:18,714
- Get away from all this.
- 1032
- 01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:22,154
- No more walls.
- 1033
- 01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:24,400
- No more guards.
- 1034
- 01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:27,919
- No more wars to fight.
- 1035
- 01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:32,160
- Just you, out in the open.
- 1036
- 01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:35,393
- Fresh air on your face.
- 1037
- 01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:43,959
- <i>Look at them pine trees.</i>
- 1038
- 01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:48,751
- <i>They've been growing
- since 'fore we was born.</i>
- 1039
- 01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:54,673
- <i>And they gonna keep growing
- even after we gone.</i>
- 1040
- 01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:00,918
- <i>And they done been through the same shit
- we done been through.</i>
- 1041
- 01:10:04,440 --> 01:10:06,830
- <i>But they still dancing in the breeze.</i>
- 1042
- 01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:17,875
- Can you see 'em?
- 1043
- 01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:21,755
- Yeah.
- 1044
- 01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:23,676
- Good.
- 1045
- 01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:27,712
- Now I want you to think
- about nothing else.
- 1046
- 01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:29,714
- Just keep your mind on that.
- 1047
- 01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:32,758
- And everything gonna be a'ight.
- 1048
- 01:10:50,480 --> 01:10:52,199
- I need <i>Strickland v. Washington,</i>
- 1049
- 01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:54,033
- and the affidavit
- from Herbert's sergeant.
- 1050
- 01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:11,309
- Let's send it.
- 1051
- 01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:19,920
- Now what?
- 1052
- 01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:24,115
- We wait.
- 1053
- 01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:46,752
- EJI. This is Bryan Stevenson.
- 1054
- 01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:48,160
- <i>Mr. Stevenson,</i>
- 1055
- 01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:52,832
- <i>the court has just entered an order
- in case number 895395.</i>
- 1056
- 01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:54,718
- <i>The motion for a stay of execution</i>
- 1057
- 01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:57,679
- <i>and petition for writ of certiorari
- have been denied.</i>
- 1058
- 01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:00,954
- <i>We'll fax copies of the order
- over to your office shortly.</i>
- 1059
- 01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:05,192
- - Thank you.
- <i>- Thank you.</i>
- 1060
- 01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:22,480
- He asked me to be there.
- 1061
- 01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:26,670
- Okay.
- 1062
- 01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:29,035
- I'll drive you, then.
- 1063
- 01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:44,715
- Come on, Herbert. We gotta go.
- 1064
- 01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:10,074
- Can I say bye to my friends?
- 1065
- 01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:28,312
- When it get too much for you...
- 1066
- 01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:32,152
- you take them deep breaths.
- 1067
- 01:13:33,440 --> 01:13:35,079
- Let your mind go.
- 1068
- 01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:41,798
- Wish I didn't have to do this alone.
- 1069
- 01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:46,033
- You ain't by yourself, Herbert.
- 1070
- 01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:49,354
- We all with you.
- 1071
- 01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:53,279
- Ain't that right, Ray?
- 1072
- 01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:58,517
- That's right, Herb.
- You ain't rid of us yet.
- 1073
- 01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:06,197
- You've been a good friend.
- 1074
- 01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:52,120
- First time in the chamber, huh?
- 1075
- 01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:55,036
- Yeah.
- 1076
- 01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:57,919
- Don't think too much.
- You'll lose your shit.
- 1077
- 01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:12,077
- Need anything, Mr. Richardson?
- 1078
- 01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:16,152
- You still gonna play my song?
- 1079
- 01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:18,239
- Got it cued up and ready.
- 1080
- 01:15:20,480 --> 01:15:21,709
- Thank you.
- 1081
- 01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:36,832
- It's been a strange day.
- 1082
- 01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:43,117
- More people asked
- how they can help me today
- 1083
- 01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:45,431
- than ever asked in my whole life.
- 1084
- 01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:54,313
- Do I look funny?
- 1085
- 01:15:56,640 --> 01:16:01,192
- I ain't know they were gonna
- shave off everything.
- 1086
- 01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:05,000
- You look fine.
- 1087
- 01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:22,476
- Well, most people
- don't get to sit and think all day...
- 1088
- 01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:25,071
- about it being their last day alive.
- 1089
- 01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:29,558
- It's different than Nam.
- 1090
- 01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:33,078
- Least I had a chance there.
- 1091
- 01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:41,640
- I'm sorry.
- 1092
- 01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:50,720
- You the only one cared enough
- to fight for me.
- 1093
- 01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:59,032
- Since I don't have family,
- 1094
- 01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:02,397
- I told the army to send my flag to you,
- if that's okay.
- 1095
- 01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:09,554
- I'd be honored.
- 1096
- 01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:21,036
- Can you pray with me?
- 1097
- 01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:25,994
- Of course.
- 1098
- 01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:37,636
- They're ready.
- 1099
- 01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:49,955
- <i>On a hill far away</i>
- 1100
- 01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:55,237
- <i>Stood an old rugged cross</i>
- 1101
- 01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:59,915
- <i>The emblem of suffering and shame</i>
- 1102
- 01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:05,915
- <i>And I love that old cross</i>
- 1103
- 01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:09,471
- <i>Where the dearest and best</i>
- 1104
- 01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:15,952
- <i>For a world of lost sinners was slain</i>
- 1105
- 01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:21,791
- <i>And I'll cherish</i>
- 1106
- 01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:25,954
- <i>The old rugged cross</i>
- 1107
- 01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:29,877
- <i>Till my trophies at last I lay down</i>
- 1108
- 01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:31,758
- You, Herbert Lee Richardson,
- 1109
- 01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:35,717
- shall be put to death by electrocution
- in the state of Alabama,
- 1110
- 01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:38,679
- as ordered and decreed
- by Judge Jerry M. White,
- 1111
- 01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:43,118
- for the murder of Rena Mae Collins
- on August the 16th, 1977.
- 1112
- 01:18:44,440 --> 01:18:45,590
- So ordered.
- 1113
- 01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:47,909
- Mr. Richardson...
- 1114
- 01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:50,916
- do you have any final words
- you'd like to say?
- 1115
- 01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:59,595
- <i>Oh, that old rugged cross</i>
- 1116
- 01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:02,593
- <i>So despised by the world</i>
- 1117
- 01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:06,230
- I have no ill feeling.
- 1118
- 01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:10,793
- And I hold nothing against anyone.
- 1119
- 01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:17,438
- <i>So I'll cherish the old rugged cross</i>
- 1120
- 01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:20,320
- <i>The old rugged cross</i>
- 1121
- 01:19:20,440 --> 01:19:25,117
- <i>Till my trophies at last I lay down</i>
- 1122
- 01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:28,113
- <i>I lay down</i>
- 1123
- 01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:34,794
- <i>I will cling to the old rugged cross</i>
- 1124
- 01:19:36,440 --> 01:19:43,358
- <i>And exchange it someday for a crown</i>
- 1125
- 01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:49,477
- <i>To the old rugged cross</i>
- 1126
- 01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:53,636
- <i>I will ever be true</i>
- 1127
- 01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:59,952
- <i>Its shame and reproach gladly bear</i>
- 1128
- 01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:06,195
- <i>Then he'll call me someday</i>
- 1129
- 01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:11,390
- <i>To my home far away</i>
- 1130
- 01:20:11,480 --> 01:20:14,632
- <i>Where his glory</i>
- 1131
- 01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:20,512
- <i>Forever I'll share</i>
- 1132
- 01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:24,440
- <i>So I'll cherish...</i>
- 1133
- 01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:27,479
- We with you, Herbert! We all with you!
- 1134
- 01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:29,040
- We love you, Herb!
- 1135
- 01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:30,474
- We all with you, Herb.
- 1136
- 01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:32,040
- I'm walking with you, Big Herb!
- 1137
- 01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:33,554
- Believe in your heart, Herb.
- 1138
- 01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:35,034
- We're with you, buddy!
- 1139
- 01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:36,156
- Be strong, Herb!
- 1140
- 01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:46,720
- <i>I will cling to the old rugged cross</i>
- 1141
- 01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:52,638
- <i>And exchange it someday</i>
- 1142
- 01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:56,159
- <i>For a crown</i>
- 1143
- 01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:57,833
- We love you, Herb!
- 1144
- 01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:51,880
- Hey.
- 1145
- 01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:09,436
- I...
- 1146
- 01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:15,079
- Well, I hope this important news
- of yours comes with some food.
- 1147
- 01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:16,560
- 'Cause I'm starving.
- 1148
- 01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:19,160
- Sit down, Mr. Myers.
- 1149
- 01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:24,751
- You was a lot nicer the last time.
- 1150
- 01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:32,792
- I heard the recording of the first
- statement you gave on June 3rd.
- 1151
- 01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:36,077
- The one they didn't present in court.
- 1152
- 01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:40,596
- You told the sheriff
- you didn't know anything
- 1153
- 01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:42,637
- about Johnny D. or the murder.
- 1154
- 01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:46,031
- You told him you didn't want to frame
- an innocent man.
- 1155
- 01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:47,840
- Do you remember saying that?
- 1156
- 01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:50,915
- Now, what I'm wondering is,
- 1157
- 01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:54,277
- how do you go from knowing nothing
- about a murder on June 3rd
- 1158
- 01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:57,273
- to becoming the state's key witness
- three months later?
- 1159
- 01:23:57,760 --> 01:23:59,319
- What changed your mind?
- 1160
- 01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:13,555
- What's that?
- 1161
- 01:24:14,480 --> 01:24:16,631
- Intake log from Holman prison.
- 1162
- 01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:20,517
- On August 1st, 1987,
- 1163
- 01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:23,035
- Sheriff Tate transferred two inmates
- 1164
- 01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:26,553
- from county jail to death row.
- 1165
- 01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:29,320
- Johnny D...
- 1166
- 01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:34,389
- ...and you.
- 1167
- 01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:42,920
- Did they move you to death row
- 1168
- 01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:44,957
- because you wouldn't
- testify against him?
- 1169
- 01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:54,309
- They executed Wayne Ritter a few weeks
- after you got there, isn't that right?
- 1170
- 01:24:57,680 --> 01:24:58,909
- I was in the witness room
- 1171
- 01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:01,560
- when they killed Herbert Richardson
- Thursday night.
- 1172
- 01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:07,956
- And it was the most horrific thing
- I've ever experienced.
- 1173
- 01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:14,957
- I'm sure Ritter's execution
- wasn't easy for you either.
- 1174
- 01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:35,997
- They put me in the cell
- closest to the kill room.
- 1175
- 01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:41,800
- Middle of the night,
- everybody started screaming,
- 1176
- 01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:43,520
- banging on the bars.
- 1177
- 01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:46,430
- And then...
- 1178
- 01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:53,992
- Then came the smell of his skin burning.
- 1179
- 01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:02,319
- I know that smell.
- 1180
- 01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:08,273
- May I ask you what happened?
- 1181
- 01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:14,554
- Seven years old.
- 1182
- 01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:20,790
- I was sleeping in my foster mom's
- basement when her heater blowed up.
- 1183
- 01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:23,472
- Catched my pj's on fire.
- 1184
- 01:26:25,040 --> 01:26:27,874
- I was screaming for two minutes straight
- before they found me.
- 1185
- 01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:36,951
- Everybody knowed
- that I got a fear of being burned.
- 1186
- 01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:42,436
- They knowed what it would do to my head
- to be in a place like that.
- 1187
- 01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:48,032
- I couldn't stop shaking all night.
- 1188
- 01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:51,357
- Curled up on the floor like a baby.
- 1189
- 01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:55,400
- Trying to breathe,
- but every breath you take just...
- 1190
- 01:26:57,320 --> 01:27:00,119
- You get another taste
- of the man they killed.
- 1191
- 01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:06,275
- You can't go through
- something like that...
- 1192
- 01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:08,319
- and come out the same.
- 1193
- 01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:14,836
- I know.
- 1194
- 01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:22,153
- I called that sheriff the next morning.
- 1195
- 01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:23,356
- I told him...
- 1196
- 01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:27,636
- I would say whatever he wanted
- to get me out.
- 1197
- 01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:30,633
- And he took my statement...
- 1198
- 01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:33,717
- moved me to county the next day.
- 1199
- 01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:40,836
- Mr. Myers, we're going to court
- very soon
- 1200
- 01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:43,674
- to try to get Johnny D.
- the retrial he deserves.
- 1201
- 01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:46,118
- And I'd like you to take the stand.
- 1202
- 01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:50,396
- No.
- 1203
- 01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:53,352
- No, sir. No, sir.
- 1204
- 01:27:53,480 --> 01:27:54,960
- They are using you.
- 1205
- 01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:57,559
- They're using you to condemn a man
- 1206
- 01:27:57,640 --> 01:27:59,836
- that you have much more in common with
- than you think.
- 1207
- 01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:03,496
- And if there's any part of you
- that wants to make things right,
- 1208
- 01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:05,830
- this is the last chance
- you're gonna get.
- 1209
- 01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:19,314
- The tension is high this morning
- here at the Baldwin County Courthouse,
- 1210
- 01:28:19,480 --> 01:28:22,279
- <i>where a hearing is being held
- to see if the man convicted</i>
- 1211
- 01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:25,711
- <i>of killing Ronda Morrison
- deserves a new trial.</i>
- 1212
- 01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:28,474
- <i>Miss Morrison was only 18 years old</i>
- 1213
- 01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:32,395
- <i>when she was murdered at Jackson
- Cleaners in Monroeville, Alabama.</i>
- 1214
- 01:28:32,480 --> 01:28:37,760
- <i>Many have taken the two-hour drive here
- from Monroeville to show their support.</i>
- 1215
- 01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:40,315
- <i>Extra security precautions
- were implemented</i>
- 1216
- 01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:43,154
- <i>due to the highly emotional nature
- of this case.</i>
- 1217
- 01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:49,554
- <i>Ronda Morrison's parents said
- they have no doubt</i>
- 1218
- 01:28:49,640 --> 01:28:53,634
- <i>Mr. McMillian is the man responsible
- for the murder of their daughter,</i>
- 1219
- 01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:57,430
- <i>but members of McMillian's family
- claim they have the wrong man.</i>
- 1220
- 01:28:57,560 --> 01:29:01,440
- <i>Much of today's hearing is hinging
- on the testimony of Ralph Myers,</i>
- 1221
- 01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:03,830
- <i>a convicted felon
- who was the key witness</i>
- 1222
- 01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:06,276
- <i>against McMillian in the original trial.</i>
- 1223
- 01:29:35,480 --> 01:29:39,679
- What we'll be talking about today
- is obviously an emotional issue.
- 1224
- 01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:42,960
- And if any of y'all don't think
- you can maintain
- 1225
- 01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:45,271
- a reasonable degree of decorum...
- 1226
- 01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:47,951
- then I would ask you to leave now.
- 1227
- 01:29:52,720 --> 01:29:56,236
- All right, if we're ready, then,
- we will proceed.
- 1228
- 01:29:58,080 --> 01:29:59,480
- Mr. Stevenson.
- 1229
- 01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:01,720
- Thank you, Your Honor.
- 1230
- 01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:14,832
- The state's case
- against Walter McMillian
- 1231
- 01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:17,230
- turned entirely
- on the testimony of Ralph Myers.
- 1232
- 01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:20,559
- There was no other evidence
- to establish Mr. McMillian's guilt.
- 1233
- 01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:23,309
- No physical evidence
- linking him to the crime.
- 1234
- 01:30:23,400 --> 01:30:25,357
- No motive. No witnesses.
- 1235
- 01:30:25,480 --> 01:30:27,039
- Only the word of one man.
- 1236
- 01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:31,637
- We call Ralph Myers to the stand.
- 1237
- 01:30:56,960 --> 01:30:59,600
- Sir, please stand
- and place your right hand on the Bible.
- 1238
- 01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:04,256
- You swear to tell the truth,
- the whole truth,
- 1239
- 01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:06,351
- and nothing but the truth,
- so help you God?
- 1240
- 01:31:08,480 --> 01:31:09,550
- Mr. Myers?
- 1241
- 01:31:10,280 --> 01:31:12,556
- Oh, yes. Sorry.
- 1242
- 01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:16,397
- The guards got me up about 2:00
- in the morning to get me out here.
- 1243
- 01:31:29,200 --> 01:31:31,476
- Mr. Myers, did you testify against
- Walter McMillian
- 1244
- 01:31:31,560 --> 01:31:33,040
- in August of 1988?
- 1245
- 01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:35,520
- Is that when it was?
- 1246
- 01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:38,959
- According to the record, yes.
- 1247
- 01:31:40,360 --> 01:31:42,636
- Okay, then, sure. If you say so.
- 1248
- 01:31:46,440 --> 01:31:48,955
- And what did you say to the jury
- when you testified?
- 1249
- 01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:57,310
- I don't think I can fully remember, sir,
- 1250
- 01:31:57,400 --> 01:31:59,915
- to be honest with you. Sorry.
- 1251
- 01:32:01,520 --> 01:32:02,795
- No, that's quite all right.
- 1252
- 01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:04,951
- I have a transcript
- of your testimony right here.
- 1253
- 01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:19,952
- At the trial, do you remember testifying
- 1254
- 01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:22,430
- that you were unwillingly
- made part of a capital murder
- 1255
- 01:32:22,520 --> 01:32:25,035
- and robbery on November 1st, 1986
- 1256
- 01:32:25,120 --> 01:32:27,396
- when Walter McMillian
- saw you at a car wash
- 1257
- 01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:29,751
- and asked you to drive his truck
- because his arm hurt?
- 1258
- 01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:32,994
- Yes, sir, I guess so.
- 1259
- 01:32:33,800 --> 01:32:37,760
- Do you remember saying that you drove
- Mr. McMillian to Jackson Cleaners,
- 1260
- 01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:39,797
- subsequently went into the building
- 1261
- 01:32:39,880 --> 01:32:41,872
- and saw Mr. McMillian with a gun,
- 1262
- 01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:44,236
- standing over the body
- of Ronda Morrison?
- 1263
- 01:32:46,480 --> 01:32:47,596
- Yes, sir.
- 1264
- 01:32:49,400 --> 01:32:51,756
- Mr. Myers, was the testimony
- that you gave
- 1265
- 01:32:51,840 --> 01:32:53,797
- at Walter McMillian's trial true?
- 1266
- 01:33:04,280 --> 01:33:05,396
- I don't know.
- 1267
- 01:33:08,800 --> 01:33:10,075
- You don't know?
- 1268
- 01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:15,399
- I don't think I remember.
- 1269
- 01:33:37,880 --> 01:33:42,079
- Mr. Myers, do you know
- who Walter McMillian is?
- 1270
- 01:33:44,440 --> 01:33:45,635
- Yes, sir.
- 1271
- 01:33:47,200 --> 01:33:48,680
- Is he in this room?
- 1272
- 01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:51,195
- Yes, sir.
- 1273
- 01:33:55,560 --> 01:33:57,233
- Could you point him out for us?
- 1274
- 01:34:21,080 --> 01:34:23,470
- I'd like to ask you that question
- one more time.
- 1275
- 01:34:24,600 --> 01:34:28,958
- Was the testimony that you gave
- at Walter McMillian's trial true?
- 1276
- 01:34:38,520 --> 01:34:40,716
- No, sir. Not at all.
- 1277
- 01:34:41,880 --> 01:34:44,076
- Order, please.
- 1278
- 01:34:44,240 --> 01:34:47,153
- Did you see Mr. McMillian
- on the day Ronda Morrison was murdered?
- 1279
- 01:34:47,560 --> 01:34:48,630
- No, sir.
- 1280
- 01:34:48,720 --> 01:34:51,315
- Did you drive his truck
- to Monroeville that day?
- 1281
- 01:34:51,400 --> 01:34:52,959
- No. Never did.
- 1282
- 01:34:53,080 --> 01:34:54,639
- Did you go into Jackson Cleaners
- 1283
- 01:34:54,720 --> 01:34:58,111
- and see Mr. McMillian standing
- over the body of Ronda Morrison?
- 1284
- 01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:00,554
- Absolutely not.
- 1285
- 01:35:05,040 --> 01:35:06,190
- Thank you.
- 1286
- 01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:09,353
- No further questions, Your Honor.
- 1287
- 01:35:15,080 --> 01:35:16,275
- <i>Mr. Myers...</i>
- 1288
- 01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:21,160
- how do we know
- you ain't upset with the deal you got
- 1289
- 01:35:21,240 --> 01:35:22,959
- and you feel like somehow by...
- 1290
- 01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:27,675
- changing your story,
- might help to get you out?
- 1291
- 01:35:29,640 --> 01:35:32,200
- Because that just
- don't make no sense, sir.
- 1292
- 01:35:33,440 --> 01:35:36,512
- Who do you think is deciding
- what happens to me?
- 1293
- 01:35:37,120 --> 01:35:38,395
- If I live or die?
- 1294
- 01:35:39,360 --> 01:35:41,920
- It ain't me. It ain't Johnny D.
- 1295
- 01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:44,515
- It's all y'all
- that's deciding that, so...
- 1296
- 01:35:44,600 --> 01:35:48,037
- how's my saying what I'm saying
- gonna help to get me out?
- 1297
- 01:35:48,120 --> 01:35:50,555
- If anything,
- it's gonna help get me to death row.
- 1298
- 01:35:52,760 --> 01:35:53,876
- But I don't care.
- 1299
- 01:35:54,440 --> 01:35:56,432
- Y'all can do what you want with me.
- 1300
- 01:35:57,360 --> 01:35:58,555
- 'Cause me...
- 1301
- 01:35:59,360 --> 01:36:01,556
- I can look in your face
- 1302
- 01:36:01,640 --> 01:36:04,997
- or anybody else's face,
- dead eye to eyeball
- 1303
- 01:36:05,080 --> 01:36:08,357
- and say that anything I told
- about Mr. McMillian...
- 1304
- 01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:11,554
- was a lie.
- 1305
- 01:36:13,120 --> 01:36:14,679
- He's here 'cause of me.
- 1306
- 01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:20,477
- And I sure would appreciate
- you sending him home
- 1307
- 01:36:20,560 --> 01:36:22,472
- to his kids where he belongs.
- 1308
- 01:36:28,720 --> 01:36:30,160
- We submit a copy of the official log
- 1309
- 01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:32,280
- from the police officer
- that stopped by the fish fry,
- 1310
- 01:36:32,320 --> 01:36:34,630
- confirming Walter McMillian was there
- with his family.
- 1311
- 01:36:35,440 --> 01:36:38,956
- Mr. Myers said that the body was faceup
- near the front counter.
- 1312
- 01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:43,316
- But I found her facedown
- in the back, by the bathroom.
- 1313
- 01:36:44,440 --> 01:36:46,955
- Submitting exculpatory records
- from Ralph Myers' stay
- 1314
- 01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:48,952
- at the Taylor Hardin
- psychiatric hospital.
- 1315
- 01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:51,919
- Which the state did not disclose
- to defense counsel.
- 1316
- 01:36:53,320 --> 01:36:55,312
- <i>Mr. Myers was my patient
- at the time,</i>
- 1317
- 01:36:55,400 --> 01:36:58,040
- and he claimed on numerous occasions
- 1318
- 01:36:58,120 --> 01:37:00,430
- that he was being threatened
- with the electric chair
- 1319
- 01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:03,394
- if he didn't say
- what the authorities wanted to hear.
- 1320
- 01:37:03,880 --> 01:37:06,395
- The prosecutor
- asked me to testify
- 1321
- 01:37:06,480 --> 01:37:09,234
- that she had been drugged
- from the front to the back.
- 1322
- 01:37:09,560 --> 01:37:11,916
- And I told him,
- "I ain't gonna lie in court."
- 1323
- 01:37:13,200 --> 01:37:17,194
- And then, well, a few weeks later,
- I got fired from the department.
- 1324
- 01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:21,672
- All of the evidence
- presented today
- 1325
- 01:37:21,760 --> 01:37:23,877
- would have been critical
- to the outcome of this case.
- 1326
- 01:37:24,600 --> 01:37:27,798
- And its exclusion is a clear violation
- of <i>Brady v. Maryland</i>
- 1327
- 01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:30,031
- and Mr. McMillian's
- constitutional rights.
- 1328
- 01:37:30,960 --> 01:37:33,191
- The truth has not been told
- in this case.
- 1329
- 01:37:33,640 --> 01:37:35,916
- And I understand a lot of time
- has gone by...
- 1330
- 01:37:37,080 --> 01:37:39,720
- but I personally believe
- that it's never too late for justice.
- 1331
- 01:37:41,200 --> 01:37:44,671
- We ask the court to grant our motion
- and order a new trial for Mr. McMillian.
- 1332
- 01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:48,274
- Thank you, Your Honor.
- 1333
- 01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:52,440
- Thank you, Counselors.
- 1334
- 01:37:53,000 --> 01:37:54,354
- We'll reconvene at a later date
- 1335
- 01:37:54,440 --> 01:37:56,557
- once I've had time
- to look through everything.
- 1336
- 01:37:57,920 --> 01:37:59,240
- All rise.
- 1337
- 01:38:05,120 --> 01:38:07,696
- Tell you the truth, I didn't think
- he was gonna go through with it.
- 1338
- 01:38:07,720 --> 01:38:10,792
- Honestly, for a second there,
- I didn't think so either.
- 1339
- 01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:18,549
- I can't even tell you
- how I feel right now.
- 1340
- 01:38:21,520 --> 01:38:22,590
- Thank you.
- 1341
- 01:38:32,960 --> 01:38:35,156
- We got a few minutes
- if y'all wanna say hi.
- 1342
- 01:38:44,200 --> 01:38:45,759
- We leave in five minutes.
- 1343
- 01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:47,435
- What's up, old man?
- 1344
- 01:38:48,240 --> 01:38:50,152
- - You did great.
- - Thank you.
- 1345
- 01:38:50,240 --> 01:38:52,596
- Mmm-hmm. Chapman ought
- to call you tonight
- 1346
- 01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:54,376
- and tell you that
- he's dropping all them charges.
- 1347
- 01:38:54,400 --> 01:38:55,880
- Yeah, I wouldn't hold my breath.
- 1348
- 01:39:05,960 --> 01:39:08,191
- <i>Upon the reading
- of my decision,</i>
- 1349
- 01:39:08,280 --> 01:39:11,956
- <i>I expect the rules of decorum
- in this courtroom to be upheld.</i>
- 1350
- 01:39:16,400 --> 01:39:19,154
- Ralph Myers took the stand
- before this court,
- 1351
- 01:39:19,240 --> 01:39:20,879
- swore to tell the truth,
- 1352
- 01:39:21,200 --> 01:39:22,998
- and proceeded to recant most,
- 1353
- 01:39:23,080 --> 01:39:27,279
- if not all of the relevant portions
- of his testimony at trial.
- 1354
- 01:39:28,200 --> 01:39:31,238
- Clearly, he has either
- perjured himself at trial,
- 1355
- 01:39:31,360 --> 01:39:33,079
- or in front of this court.
- 1356
- 01:39:34,520 --> 01:39:36,159
- After careful review,
- 1357
- 01:39:36,280 --> 01:39:37,634
- it is this court's opinion
- 1358
- 01:39:37,720 --> 01:39:40,952
- that conclusive evidence
- has not been provided
- 1359
- 01:39:41,040 --> 01:39:44,238
- that Ralph Myers perjured himself
- at the original trial
- 1360
- 01:39:44,760 --> 01:39:48,595
- and that pressure put on him
- since his trial testimony
- 1361
- 01:39:48,680 --> 01:39:51,400
- could tend to discredit his recantation.
- 1362
- 01:39:52,600 --> 01:39:56,116
- Therefore, it is ordered,
- adjudged and decreed
- 1363
- 01:39:56,200 --> 01:39:58,510
- that the trial testimony of Ralph Myers
- 1364
- 01:39:58,600 --> 01:40:01,434
- is not found
- to have been perjured testimony,
- 1365
- 01:40:02,000 --> 01:40:03,639
- and no new trial shall be granted...
- 1366
- 01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:05,080
- - It's not over.
- - ...at this time.
- 1367
- 01:40:05,960 --> 01:40:09,237
- Walter McMillian shall be returned
- to Holman Correctional Facility,
- 1368
- 01:40:09,320 --> 01:40:11,994
- where he is to face
- death by electrocution.
- 1369
- 01:40:27,360 --> 01:40:29,556
- You can't do this to us again, Judge.
- 1370
- 01:40:29,640 --> 01:40:30,756
- Sit down, young man.
- 1371
- 01:40:30,840 --> 01:40:32,216
- - John...
- - This is my dad, sir.
- 1372
- 01:40:32,240 --> 01:40:33,959
- John. I want you to sit down now.
- 1373
- 01:40:34,040 --> 01:40:35,474
- He ain't do nothing wrong.
- 1374
- 01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:37,233
- Listen to your father. Not here.
- 1375
- 01:40:37,320 --> 01:40:38,549
- He ain't do nothing wrong.
- 1376
- 01:40:38,640 --> 01:40:39,994
- Sit down right now
- 1377
- 01:40:40,080 --> 01:40:41,992
- or you'll be arrested
- for contempt of court.
- 1378
- 01:40:42,080 --> 01:40:44,296
- Judge, just give me one second.
- Please, Judge. Hold on one second.
- 1379
- 01:40:44,320 --> 01:40:45,320
- Sit down, John.
- 1380
- 01:40:45,400 --> 01:40:47,278
- I won't say it again.
- Sit down!
- 1381
- 01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:49,636
- Not if you gonna kill my dad
- for no reason.
- 1382
- 01:40:50,040 --> 01:40:52,839
- Not if you gonna kill my dad
- for no reason!
- 1383
- 01:40:52,920 --> 01:40:54,176
- He ain't do nothing wrong!
- 1384
- 01:40:54,200 --> 01:40:55,536
- Not in here. Not like this.
- 1385
- 01:40:55,560 --> 01:40:57,279
- You killing my family, sir.
- 1386
- 01:40:58,040 --> 01:41:00,396
- You killing my family, sir. You!
- 1387
- 01:41:06,280 --> 01:41:07,280
- John!
- 1388
- 01:41:08,040 --> 01:41:09,856
- Judge! Judge! He's not resisting.
- 1389
- 01:41:09,880 --> 01:41:11,456
- - John!
- - He ain't do nothing.
- 1390
- 01:41:11,480 --> 01:41:12,596
- Stop resisting.
- 1391
- 01:41:32,640 --> 01:41:35,030
- You hear me?
- Don't you let them get you.
- 1392
- 01:41:38,760 --> 01:41:40,513
- It's gonna be all right.
- 1393
- 01:41:41,040 --> 01:41:42,474
- Come on. Let's get you home.
- 1394
- 01:42:02,840 --> 01:42:04,752
- Come on, man, don't make this hard.
- 1395
- 01:42:11,320 --> 01:42:12,800
- Come on.
- 1396
- 01:42:12,880 --> 01:42:15,600
- No. Don't do this, McMillian.
- Come on. Go in.
- 1397
- 01:42:16,840 --> 01:42:18,399
- Johnny D., no! No!
- 1398
- 01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:23,840
- Johnny D., no!
- 1399
- 01:42:26,960 --> 01:42:27,996
- Johnny...
- 1400
- 01:42:30,640 --> 01:42:32,791
- Relax. Relax. Relax.
- 1401
- 01:42:34,120 --> 01:42:35,576
- Give me your arm. Give me...
- 1402
- 01:42:35,600 --> 01:42:37,200
- Get him cuffed!
- Get him cuffed.
- 1403
- 01:42:38,040 --> 01:42:39,190
- Relax.
- 1404
- 01:42:48,320 --> 01:42:49,320
- Good job.
- 1405
- 01:43:59,280 --> 01:44:00,430
- <i>No more</i>
- 1406
- 01:44:01,160 --> 01:44:04,517
- <i>Auction</i>
- 1407
- 01:44:05,240 --> 01:44:11,680
- <i>Block for me</i>
- 1408
- 01:44:14,600 --> 01:44:17,798
- <i>No more</i>
- 1409
- 01:44:18,640 --> 01:44:25,640
- <i>No more</i>
- 1410
- 01:44:28,040 --> 01:44:31,272
- <i>No more</i>
- 1411
- 01:44:31,800 --> 01:44:36,397
- <i>Auction</i>
- 1412
- 01:44:36,960 --> 01:44:43,116
- <i>Block for me</i>
- 1413
- 01:44:54,640 --> 01:44:55,915
- Nobody wants to remember
- 1414
- 01:44:56,000 --> 01:44:58,993
- that this is where
- thousands of enslaved people
- 1415
- 01:44:59,080 --> 01:45:02,676
- were shipped in
- and paraded up the street to be sold.
- 1416
- 01:45:05,920 --> 01:45:06,920
- Just ten miles from here,
- 1417
- 01:45:06,960 --> 01:45:09,080
- black people were pulled
- from their homes and lynched.
- 1418
- 01:45:10,760 --> 01:45:12,274
- Nobody talks about it.
- 1419
- 01:45:16,760 --> 01:45:20,197
- And now this black boy from Delaware
- walks into their courtrooms
- 1420
- 01:45:20,280 --> 01:45:24,194
- and expects them to admit
- they convicted an innocent black man.
- 1421
- 01:45:27,720 --> 01:45:30,952
- I promised that whole community
- I was gonna bring him home.
- 1422
- 01:45:35,360 --> 01:45:37,192
- Then I just made things worse.
- 1423
- 01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:48,472
- I've heard a lot of lawyers say
- 1424
- 01:45:48,560 --> 01:45:51,155
- it's not a good idea
- to get close to your clients.
- 1425
- 01:45:52,560 --> 01:45:54,153
- Distance is healthy.
- 1426
- 01:45:57,840 --> 01:46:00,912
- But working with you
- showed me that that's bullshit.
- 1427
- 01:46:03,280 --> 01:46:06,193
- You choose to get close
- to every one of them.
- 1428
- 01:46:07,320 --> 01:46:09,915
- And you love them
- like they are your family.
- 1429
- 01:46:11,600 --> 01:46:14,274
- And when your family is hurting,
- you're hurting.
- 1430
- 01:46:20,400 --> 01:46:22,869
- There is no way
- that I could fully understand
- 1431
- 01:46:22,960 --> 01:46:24,758
- what it is that you're going through.
- 1432
- 01:46:28,760 --> 01:46:30,433
- But I am pretty sure that...
- 1433
- 01:46:30,800 --> 01:46:33,156
- you mean a lot more to this community
- than you think.
- 1434
- 01:47:39,120 --> 01:47:40,873
- Walter, I'm so sorry.
- 1435
- 01:47:48,120 --> 01:47:51,033
- Day I got arrested,
- I thought I was gonna be okay.
- 1436
- 01:47:52,960 --> 01:47:54,633
- 'Cause I got the truth.
- 1437
- 01:47:59,240 --> 01:48:01,277
- Soon as they talk to everybody
- that was with me,
- 1438
- 01:48:01,360 --> 01:48:02,953
- they gonna have to let me go.
- 1439
- 01:48:08,560 --> 01:48:11,280
- Then the police
- keep calling you a killer.
- 1440
- 01:48:14,040 --> 01:48:18,034
- Some white dude say he saw you do it.
- 1441
- 01:48:21,560 --> 01:48:23,677
- News people saying you did it.
- 1442
- 01:48:25,720 --> 01:48:29,111
- Judge and jury saying you did it.
- 1443
- 01:48:32,520 --> 01:48:34,000
- Now you on the row...
- 1444
- 01:48:38,320 --> 01:48:40,312
- two, three, four years.
- 1445
- 01:48:41,000 --> 01:48:44,311
- Your friends and your kids
- ain't calling you like they used to.
- 1446
- 01:48:46,960 --> 01:48:50,920
- After a while, you start wondering
- what they think about you.
- 1447
- 01:48:52,600 --> 01:48:55,195
- You start wondering
- what you think about you.
- 1448
- 01:49:01,720 --> 01:49:03,757
- The truth ain't so clear no more.
- 1449
- 01:49:09,200 --> 01:49:11,192
- But these last few days...
- 1450
- 01:49:11,960 --> 01:49:14,600
- I can't stop thinking
- about Myers up there.
- 1451
- 01:49:15,200 --> 01:49:17,192
- Telling everybody how it went down.
- 1452
- 01:49:21,960 --> 01:49:25,351
- That's the first time I feel like myself
- since I've been locked up.
- 1453
- 01:49:28,360 --> 01:49:30,556
- The first time I remember who I is.
- 1454
- 01:49:39,960 --> 01:49:42,156
- These fools gonna do what they gonna do.
- 1455
- 01:49:46,040 --> 01:49:48,635
- But if they take me
- to that chair tonight...
- 1456
- 01:49:51,720 --> 01:49:53,473
- I'm going out smiling.
- 1457
- 01:49:56,840 --> 01:49:58,718
- 'Cause I got my truth back.
- 1458
- 01:50:03,720 --> 01:50:05,393
- You gave that to me.
- 1459
- 01:50:08,520 --> 01:50:10,159
- To me and my family.
- 1460
- 01:50:13,400 --> 01:50:15,710
- And ain't nobody
- gonna take that from us.
- 1461
- 01:50:25,600 --> 01:50:27,398
- You ain't quitting, is you?
- 1462
- 01:50:31,680 --> 01:50:33,000
- No, sir.
- 1463
- 01:50:40,120 --> 01:50:42,999
- Then there ain't no reason for you
- to say you're sorry.
- 1464
- 01:50:50,440 --> 01:50:53,399
- I know how disappointing
- the last hearing was...
- 1465
- 01:50:54,160 --> 01:50:56,720
- but that's not where this is gonna end.
- 1466
- 01:50:57,800 --> 01:50:59,640
- We're preparing a motion
- to submit our evidence
- 1467
- 01:50:59,720 --> 01:51:01,712
- to the state supreme court
- in Montgomery.
- 1468
- 01:51:02,440 --> 01:51:04,557
- They have the power
- to reverse the last decision
- 1469
- 01:51:04,640 --> 01:51:06,791
- and force the circuit court
- to give us a new trial.
- 1470
- 01:51:08,280 --> 01:51:09,634
- You think they'll do that?
- 1471
- 01:51:10,160 --> 01:51:11,355
- Nothing's guaranteed.
- 1472
- 01:51:12,400 --> 01:51:15,916
- But I can't see how an outside court
- can ignore the evidence that we have.
- 1473
- 01:51:17,840 --> 01:51:19,035
- And then what?
- 1474
- 01:51:20,400 --> 01:51:21,436
- Even if he do get out,
- 1475
- 01:51:21,520 --> 01:51:23,796
- everybody but us
- still gonna think he guilty.
- 1476
- 01:51:24,720 --> 01:51:27,235
- If they can't kill him in there,
- they can still do it out here.
- 1477
- 01:51:28,800 --> 01:51:30,359
- We've been worried about that, too.
- 1478
- 01:51:31,120 --> 01:51:33,430
- And we're working on something
- to help get the truth out.
- 1479
- 01:51:40,360 --> 01:51:42,800
- We're rolling.
- Whenever you're ready, Mr. Bradley.
- 1480
- 01:51:43,600 --> 01:51:45,557
- Okay, Bryan, you ready?
- 1481
- 01:51:46,400 --> 01:51:47,550
- I am.
- 1482
- 01:51:51,800 --> 01:51:56,033
- <i>His name is Walter McMillian,
- known to his friends as Johnny D.,</i>
- 1483
- 01:51:56,120 --> 01:51:58,680
- <i>and he's been on death row
- in Alabama's Holman prison</i>
- 1484
- 01:51:58,760 --> 01:52:00,479
- <i>for almost six years.</i>
- 1485
- 01:52:00,880 --> 01:52:03,679
- <i>A jury was convinced
- they got the right man.</i>
- 1486
- 01:52:03,760 --> 01:52:06,480
- <i>But you may not be
- after you watch this story.</i>
- 1487
- 01:52:07,320 --> 01:52:08,595
- <i>The clerk who was murdered...</i>
- 1488
- 01:52:08,680 --> 01:52:10,558
- Hey, hey, turn that up!
- I can't hear it.
- 1489
- 01:52:11,120 --> 01:52:14,431
- <i>Johnny D. says
- they want to execute the wrong man.</i>
- 1490
- 01:52:14,720 --> 01:52:16,837
- <i>- You didn't kill Ronda Morrison?
- - No, sir.</i>
- 1491
- 01:52:16,920 --> 01:52:18,680
- <i>I never seen Ronda Morrison
- a day in my life.</i>
- 1492
- 01:52:18,760 --> 01:52:19,910
- <i>God knows I ain't.</i>
- 1493
- 01:52:20,000 --> 01:52:22,310
- <i>Did you ever go
- into Monroeville</i>
- 1494
- 01:52:22,400 --> 01:52:24,312
- <i>- on the day of the murder?
- - No, sir.</i>
- 1495
- 01:52:24,400 --> 01:52:27,120
- - <i>You never went in...
- - Never went to Monroeville, period.</i>
- 1496
- 01:52:27,240 --> 01:52:29,709
- <i>I told them I had seen
- a young girl</i>
- 1497
- 01:52:29,800 --> 01:52:31,951
- <i>laying on the floor with her mouth open,</i>
- 1498
- 01:52:32,040 --> 01:52:33,679
- <i>Johnny D. standing over her.</i>
- 1499
- 01:52:34,040 --> 01:52:35,394
- <i>Was it true?</i>
- 1500
- 01:52:35,840 --> 01:52:38,674
- <i>No, sir. Not at all. Nowhere near true.</i>
- 1501
- 01:52:39,520 --> 01:52:43,196
- <i>If an execution date is set
- for McMillian, and that day comes</i>
- 1502
- 01:52:43,280 --> 01:52:46,591
- <i>and it's time for him to go
- to the electric chair,</i>
- 1503
- 01:52:46,680 --> 01:52:48,034
- <i>will you be comfortable?</i>
- 1504
- 01:52:48,120 --> 01:52:49,395
- <i>Yes.</i>
- 1505
- 01:52:50,400 --> 01:52:51,720
- <i>I'd be comfortable with it.</i>
- 1506
- 01:52:52,560 --> 01:52:55,200
- <i>Do you think it's fair, just?
- He had his...</i>
- 1507
- 01:52:55,280 --> 01:52:56,714
- <i>He had his day in court.</i>
- 1508
- 01:52:57,120 --> 01:52:59,077
- <i>He was tried by a jury.</i>
- 1509
- 01:52:59,160 --> 01:53:01,038
- <i>They heard his testimony
- and they believed it.</i>
- 1510
- 01:53:01,840 --> 01:53:05,277
- <i>Chapman says he's going
- to indict Myers for perjury.</i>
- 1511
- 01:53:05,520 --> 01:53:09,355
- <i>Not for what he said at the trial,
- but for what he's saying now.</i>
- 1512
- 01:53:09,880 --> 01:53:11,680
- <i>Next, we'll be presenting
- our evidence</i>
- 1513
- 01:53:11,760 --> 01:53:13,319
- <i>to the Alabama Supreme Court,</i>
- 1514
- 01:53:13,400 --> 01:53:15,869
- <i>hoping they'll see
- what we think is very clear...</i>
- 1515
- 01:53:16,160 --> 01:53:18,038
- <i>that Walter McMillian is innocent.</i>
- 1516
- 01:53:18,400 --> 01:53:20,119
- <i>McMillian's fate is now</i>
- 1517
- 01:53:20,200 --> 01:53:22,431
- <i>in the hands
- of the Alabama Supreme Court,</i>
- 1518
- 01:53:22,520 --> 01:53:26,719
- <i>which is expected to decide soon
- if he's entitled to a new trial.</i>
- 1519
- 01:53:32,400 --> 01:53:33,880
- EJI, this is Brenda.
- 1520
- 01:53:37,880 --> 01:53:39,837
- Okay. I'll let him know. Thank you.
- 1521
- 01:53:43,600 --> 01:53:45,592
- The supreme court ruling
- in the McMillian case
- 1522
- 01:53:45,680 --> 01:53:46,909
- is ready to be picked up.
- 1523
- 01:53:52,200 --> 01:53:53,520
- I'll be back.
- 1524
- 01:53:59,920 --> 01:54:01,070
- You're welcome.
- 1525
- 01:54:15,160 --> 01:54:17,496
- <i>A wave of shock
- rolled through Monroe County today</i>
- 1526
- 01:54:17,520 --> 01:54:18,954
- <i>when the Alabama Supreme Court</i>
- 1527
- 01:54:19,080 --> 01:54:21,356
- overturned the circuit court's
- previous decision
- 1528
- 01:54:21,440 --> 01:54:25,400
- and granted a new trial to convicted
- killer Walter "Johnny D." McMillian.
- 1529
- 01:54:25,800 --> 01:54:27,871
- This was the first time a court
- outside the county
- 1530
- 01:54:27,960 --> 01:54:31,271
- was shown the overwhelming evidence
- proving Mr. McMillian's innocence.
- 1531
- 01:54:31,360 --> 01:54:33,272
- Though the court
- granted him a new trial,
- 1532
- 01:54:33,360 --> 01:54:35,397
- we believe he deserves
- to be released immediately.
- 1533
- 01:54:35,480 --> 01:54:37,880
- And that's exactly what we'll be arguing
- at the next hearing.
- 1534
- 01:54:37,960 --> 01:54:39,536
- Mr. Chapman, how do you feel
- about today's decision?
- 1535
- 01:54:39,560 --> 01:54:41,677
- I have no comment at this time.
- Thank you.
- 1536
- 01:54:49,480 --> 01:54:51,392
- I'm looking for
- Attorney Bryan Stevenson.
- 1537
- 01:54:53,400 --> 01:54:55,392
- - Mr. Stevenson?
- - How can I help you?
- 1538
- 01:54:55,480 --> 01:54:57,870
- Yes, sir, I've been ordered
- to serve you this pleading.
- 1539
- 01:54:58,960 --> 01:55:00,280
- Thank you.
- 1540
- 01:55:15,880 --> 01:55:18,236
- Tommy Chapman is asking the court
- to stay the proceedings
- 1541
- 01:55:18,320 --> 01:55:20,471
- so he can open up a new investigation.
- 1542
- 01:55:21,560 --> 01:55:23,950
- He's trying to buy time
- to rebuild his case.
- 1543
- 01:55:24,600 --> 01:55:27,240
- That son of a bitch.
- 1544
- 01:55:33,960 --> 01:55:35,296
- - Bryan?
- - You're asking the court
- 1545
- 01:55:35,320 --> 01:55:37,915
- to keep a man on death row
- you know is innocent.
- 1546
- 01:55:40,120 --> 01:55:42,680
- Excuse me, Counselor?
- I don't know what you mean.
- 1547
- 01:55:42,760 --> 01:55:45,036
- The supreme court supports
- all the evidence we presented.
- 1548
- 01:55:45,120 --> 01:55:47,954
- Every one of your witnesses recanted.
- You got nothing left.
- 1549
- 01:55:48,040 --> 01:55:50,040
- Well, hang on,
- my investigation's still in process.
- 1550
- 01:55:50,080 --> 01:55:51,960
- And we both know
- you're not gonna find anything.
- 1551
- 01:55:55,440 --> 01:55:57,318
- Do you have any idea the bullshit...
- 1552
- 01:55:58,080 --> 01:56:01,039
- that I've had to put up with
- since your <i>60 Minutes</i> story aired?
- 1553
- 01:56:01,880 --> 01:56:05,715
- I got the governor on my ass,
- got the NAACP calling me a racist.
- 1554
- 01:56:06,200 --> 01:56:08,510
- I got Ronda's family
- checking in every five minutes.
- 1555
- 01:56:08,600 --> 01:56:10,200
- You can't keep an innocent man in prison
- 1556
- 01:56:10,280 --> 01:56:11,919
- while you try
- to salvage your reputation.
- 1557
- 01:56:12,000 --> 01:56:14,071
- This ain't got nothing to do
- with my reputation.
- 1558
- 01:56:15,600 --> 01:56:19,435
- This is about the people of this county
- who have hired me to keep 'em safe.
- 1559
- 01:56:20,680 --> 01:56:22,876
- And what people
- are you talking about right now?
- 1560
- 01:56:23,480 --> 01:56:25,039
- The ones from this neighborhood?
- 1561
- 01:56:25,200 --> 01:56:28,159
- Or the ones from the black community
- you took Johnny D. from?
- 1562
- 01:56:28,240 --> 01:56:30,038
- You think they feel safe?
- 1563
- 01:56:33,720 --> 01:56:36,235
- Your job isn't to defend
- a conviction, Tommy.
- 1564
- 01:56:36,320 --> 01:56:38,073
- It's to achieve justice.
- 1565
- 01:56:38,800 --> 01:56:41,759
- And as long as you keep fighting this,
- someone from your county
- 1566
- 01:56:41,840 --> 01:56:44,071
- has literally gotten away with murder.
- 1567
- 01:56:45,320 --> 01:56:47,136
- You wanna come all the way to my house
- at dinner time
- 1568
- 01:56:47,160 --> 01:56:48,799
- just to tell me how to do my job?
- 1569
- 01:56:49,120 --> 01:56:50,713
- No. No, I'm here
- 1570
- 01:56:50,800 --> 01:56:53,599
- because I think you know the difference
- between right and wrong.
- 1571
- 01:56:54,160 --> 01:56:56,629
- And you know Johnny D.
- didn't kill that girl.
- 1572
- 01:56:58,480 --> 01:57:00,870
- I'm filing a motion
- to dismiss all charges.
- 1573
- 01:57:01,080 --> 01:57:02,912
- And I think that you should join it.
- 1574
- 01:57:14,840 --> 01:57:16,911
- Next time you wanna stop by my house...
- 1575
- 01:57:19,280 --> 01:57:20,999
- appreciate you calling me first.
- 1576
- 01:57:21,280 --> 01:57:23,397
- Now, you get the hell
- off my property, Bryan.
- 1577
- 01:57:43,920 --> 01:57:45,320
- There's Bryan.
- 1578
- 01:57:46,040 --> 01:57:47,936
- - What's going on?
- - They won't let us in.
- 1579
- 01:57:47,960 --> 01:57:50,839
- That boy is making us wait out here
- for over an hour.
- 1580
- 01:57:51,680 --> 01:57:53,000
- Excuse me.
- 1581
- 01:57:53,080 --> 01:57:54,355
- What are you doing?
- 1582
- 01:57:54,440 --> 01:57:55,874
- Just following orders.
- 1583
- 01:57:56,320 --> 01:57:59,552
- This is a public hearing.
- These people need to be let in now.
- 1584
- 01:58:02,000 --> 01:58:03,000
- Um...
- 1585
- 01:58:06,360 --> 01:58:07,874
- Y'all can go in now.
- 1586
- 01:58:08,160 --> 01:58:09,799
- Now that there's no seats left.
- 1587
- 01:58:09,880 --> 01:58:11,109
- It's okay.
- 1588
- 01:58:11,720 --> 01:58:13,074
- We'll find room.
- 1589
- 01:58:13,480 --> 01:58:14,576
- - Go on in.
- - Y'all come on.
- 1590
- 01:58:14,600 --> 01:58:16,080
- - Excuse us.
- - Yeah.
- 1591
- 01:58:16,160 --> 01:58:17,355
- Come on, y'all.
- 1592
- 01:58:18,120 --> 01:58:19,554
- Right this way. Come on.
- 1593
- 01:58:20,360 --> 01:58:21,589
- Okay.
- 1594
- 01:58:25,240 --> 01:58:26,416
- Good to see you, sugar.
- 1595
- 01:58:26,440 --> 01:58:28,113
- Okay. Thank you. Yes, ma'am.
- 1596
- 01:58:30,040 --> 01:58:31,440
- All rise.
- 1597
- 01:58:34,120 --> 01:58:37,591
- The 28th Judicial Circuit Court
- of Alabama is now in session.
- 1598
- 01:58:37,680 --> 01:58:40,275
- The Honorable Judge
- Pamela Baschab presiding.
- 1599
- 01:58:40,640 --> 01:58:41,835
- Please be seated.
- 1600
- 01:58:45,280 --> 01:58:49,593
- We've got a full house, so let's try
- to move through this in a timely manner.
- 1601
- 01:58:49,960 --> 01:58:53,158
- We're here because Mr. Stevenson
- has filed a motion
- 1602
- 01:58:53,240 --> 01:58:55,197
- to dismiss all charges
- 1603
- 01:58:55,280 --> 01:58:57,670
- against Mr. McMillian in this case.
- 1604
- 01:58:58,000 --> 01:58:59,753
- Now, Mr. Stevenson,
- since it's your motion,
- 1605
- 01:58:59,840 --> 01:59:01,638
- I'd like for you to speak to it first
- 1606
- 01:59:01,720 --> 01:59:03,279
- and then we'll hear from the state.
- 1607
- 01:59:16,280 --> 01:59:19,830
- It's easy to see this case as one man
- trying to prove his innocence.
- 1608
- 01:59:21,400 --> 01:59:23,790
- But when you take a black man
- and you put him on death row
- 1609
- 01:59:23,880 --> 01:59:25,394
- a year before his trial...
- 1610
- 01:59:26,400 --> 01:59:29,199
- and exclude black people
- from serving on his jury...
- 1611
- 01:59:30,720 --> 01:59:31,880
- When you base your conviction
- 1612
- 01:59:31,960 --> 01:59:34,156
- on a coerced testimony
- of a white felon...
- 1613
- 01:59:34,960 --> 01:59:38,920
- and ignore the testimony of two dozen
- law-abiding black witnesses...
- 1614
- 01:59:40,560 --> 01:59:43,075
- When any evidence proving
- his innocence is suppressed
- 1615
- 01:59:43,160 --> 01:59:46,278
- and anyone who tries to tell the truth
- is threatened...
- 1616
- 01:59:47,040 --> 01:59:50,317
- this case becomes more than the trial
- of just a single defendant.
- 1617
- 01:59:51,280 --> 01:59:52,873
- It becomes a test
- 1618
- 01:59:52,960 --> 01:59:56,271
- of whether we're going to be
- governed by fear and by anger
- 1619
- 01:59:56,640 --> 01:59:58,120
- or by the rule of law.
- 1620
- 02:00:05,160 --> 02:00:07,200
- If the people standing in the back
- of this courtroom
- 1621
- 02:00:07,240 --> 02:00:09,516
- are all presumed guilty when accused...
- 1622
- 02:00:12,080 --> 02:00:14,276
- If they have to leave here
- and live in fear
- 1623
- 02:00:14,360 --> 02:00:16,829
- of when this very thing
- will happen to them...
- 1624
- 02:00:19,080 --> 02:00:20,833
- If we're just gonna accept the system
- 1625
- 02:00:20,920 --> 02:00:23,560
- that treats you better
- if you're rich and guilty
- 1626
- 02:00:23,640 --> 02:00:25,791
- than if you're poor and innocent,
- 1627
- 02:00:25,880 --> 02:00:27,473
- then we can't claim to be just.
- 1628
- 02:00:29,200 --> 02:00:32,318
- If we say we're committed
- to equal justice under law,
- 1629
- 02:00:32,400 --> 02:00:34,437
- to protecting
- the rights of every citizen,
- 1630
- 02:00:34,520 --> 02:00:37,877
- regardless of wealth, race, or status,
- 1631
- 02:00:38,400 --> 02:00:41,677
- then we have to end this nightmare
- for Walter McMillian and his family.
- 1632
- 02:00:42,680 --> 02:00:45,479
- The charges against him have been proven
- to be a false construction
- 1633
- 02:00:45,560 --> 02:00:49,031
- of desperate people
- fueled by bigotry and bias...
- 1634
- 02:00:49,800 --> 02:00:52,554
- who ignored the truth
- in exchange for easy solutions,
- 1635
- 02:00:52,680 --> 02:00:54,273
- and that's not the law.
- 1636
- 02:00:56,120 --> 02:00:57,679
- That's not justice.
- 1637
- 02:01:01,080 --> 02:01:02,275
- That's not right.
- 1638
- 02:01:05,560 --> 02:01:08,678
- I ask that this case
- be dismissed immediately, Your Honor.
- 1639
- 02:01:11,960 --> 02:01:13,360
- Thank you.
- 1640
- 02:01:26,240 --> 02:01:29,438
- Mr. Chapman, what is the state's
- position on this motion?
- 1641
- 02:01:36,600 --> 02:01:39,672
- Your Honor, may I approach the bench?
- 1642
- 02:01:39,760 --> 02:01:40,876
- Yes.
- 1643
- 02:01:45,640 --> 02:01:46,915
- Your Honor, um...
- 1644
- 02:01:47,480 --> 02:01:48,709
- I'm troubled.
- 1645
- 02:01:50,400 --> 02:01:51,993
- - You're troubled?
- - Troubled.
- 1646
- 02:01:56,920 --> 02:01:59,037
- 'Cause I know that the people
- in this community
- 1647
- 02:01:59,120 --> 02:02:00,600
- want to go to sleep at night
- 1648
- 02:02:00,680 --> 02:02:03,479
- knowing that if someone
- has committed a terrible crime,
- 1649
- 02:02:03,560 --> 02:02:05,677
- then that someone is gonna be punished.
- 1650
- 02:02:10,760 --> 02:02:11,955
- But, um...
- 1651
- 02:02:12,840 --> 02:02:14,069
- in this case...
- 1652
- 02:02:16,720 --> 02:02:20,077
- Your Honor, I have taken another look
- at the evidence...
- 1653
- 02:02:20,960 --> 02:02:22,110
- and, uh...
- 1654
- 02:02:26,960 --> 02:02:28,633
- Mr. Chapman, please?
- 1655
- 02:02:28,720 --> 02:02:31,189
- And the state does not object
- to the motion, Your Honor.
- 1656
- 02:02:33,400 --> 02:02:34,550
- What?
- 1657
- 02:02:37,120 --> 02:02:39,191
- To be clear,
- Mr. Chapman,
- 1658
- 02:02:39,280 --> 02:02:43,240
- are you joining the motion
- to dismiss all charges today?
- 1659
- 02:02:44,800 --> 02:02:46,120
- Yes, Your Honor, I am.
- 1660
- 02:02:48,240 --> 02:02:49,276
- Order.
- 1661
- 02:02:49,360 --> 02:02:51,636
- Please. Order.
- 1662
- 02:02:55,000 --> 02:02:58,198
- Well, y'all have made my job easy today.
- 1663
- 02:02:59,200 --> 02:03:02,796
- In the case of <i>The People v. McMillian,</i>
- 1664
- 02:03:02,880 --> 02:03:06,191
- the court hereby grants
- the defendant's motion.
- 1665
- 02:03:07,000 --> 02:03:10,311
- All charges against you
- are dismissed, Mr. McMillian.
- 1666
- 02:03:10,400 --> 02:03:12,596
- What does that mean?
- 1667
- 02:03:12,680 --> 02:03:13,909
- That means you're free.
- 1668
- 02:03:14,000 --> 02:03:15,957
- That means you're free
- and you get to go home.
- 1669
- 02:03:31,160 --> 02:03:32,196
- Hey.
- 1670
- 02:03:36,200 --> 02:03:37,360
- Your family's coming.
- 1671
- 02:04:00,600 --> 02:04:02,512
- I have my family back.
- 1672
- 02:04:51,040 --> 02:04:52,759
- We're all with you, brother.
- 1673
- 02:05:14,160 --> 02:05:15,753
- Yo, Johnny D.!
- 1674
- 02:05:45,080 --> 02:05:47,914
- <i>I came out of law school
- with grand ideas in my mind</i>
- 1675
- 02:05:48,000 --> 02:05:49,719
- <i>about how to change the world.</i>
- 1676
- 02:05:53,320 --> 02:05:55,880
- <i>But Mr. McMillian made me realize
- we can't change the world</i>
- 1677
- 02:05:55,960 --> 02:05:57,679
- <i>with only ideas in our minds.</i>
- 1678
- 02:05:59,400 --> 02:06:01,153
- <i>We need conviction in our hearts.</i>
- 1679
- 02:06:03,360 --> 02:06:05,238
- <i>This man taught me how to stay hopeful.</i>
- 1680
- 02:06:05,880 --> 02:06:08,190
- <i>Because I now know that hopelessness</i>
- 1681
- 02:06:08,280 --> 02:06:09,873
- <i>is the enemy ofjustice.</i>
- 1682
- 02:06:12,360 --> 02:06:14,113
- <i>Hope allows us to push forward,</i>
- 1683
- 02:06:14,200 --> 02:06:17,238
- <i>even when the truth is distorted
- by the people in power.</i>
- 1684
- 02:06:20,080 --> 02:06:21,799
- <i>It allows us to stand up</i>
- 1685
- 02:06:22,160 --> 02:06:23,833
- <i>when they tell us to sit down.</i>
- 1686
- 02:06:24,240 --> 02:06:26,914
- <i>And to speak when they say, "Be quiet."</i>
- 1687
- 02:06:32,120 --> 02:06:34,430
- Through this work,
- I've learned that each of us
- 1688
- 02:06:34,520 --> 02:06:36,637
- is more than the worst thing
- that we've ever done.
- 1689
- 02:06:38,600 --> 02:06:40,831
- That the opposite of poverty
- isn't wealth.
- 1690
- 02:06:42,160 --> 02:06:44,914
- The opposite of poverty is justice.
- 1691
- 02:06:46,920 --> 02:06:49,355
- That the character of our nation
- isn't reflected
- 1692
- 02:06:49,440 --> 02:06:51,830
- in how we treat the rich
- and the privileged...
- 1693
- 02:06:53,080 --> 02:06:57,359
- but how we treat the poor,
- the disfavored and condemned.
- 1694
- 02:07:02,120 --> 02:07:05,591
- Our system has taken more away
- from this innocent man
- 1695
- 02:07:05,720 --> 02:07:07,473
- than it has the power to give back.
- 1696
- 02:07:10,840 --> 02:07:13,639
- But I believe if each of us
- can follow his lead...
- 1697
- 02:07:14,680 --> 02:07:17,070
- we can change this world for the better.
- 1698
- 02:07:21,080 --> 02:07:23,197
- If we can look at ourselves closely...
- 1699
- 02:07:23,960 --> 02:07:25,280
- and honestly...
- 1700
- 02:07:25,880 --> 02:07:28,918
- I believe we will see
- that we all need justice.
- 1701
- 02:07:30,840 --> 02:07:32,752
- We all need mercy.
- 1702
- 02:07:33,600 --> 02:07:34,795
- And perhaps...
- 1703
- 02:07:35,200 --> 02:07:38,238
- we all need some measure
- of unmerited grace.
- 1704
- 02:07:41,720 --> 02:07:43,040
- Thank you.
- 1705
- 02:07:46,360 --> 02:07:48,079
- I taught you all that?
- 1706
- 02:07:51,440 --> 02:07:53,159
- Yeah, you taught me some of that.
- 1707
- 02:07:54,360 --> 02:07:56,875
- I'm pretty good, ain't I?
- 1708
- 02:07:57,360 --> 02:07:58,430
- Yeah.
- 1709
- 02:07:58,520 --> 02:07:59,954
- Great job.
- 1710
- 02:09:50,560 --> 02:09:52,119
- Hi!
- 1711
- 02:09:52,760 --> 02:09:56,037
- Oh, Lord, thank you, Jesus.
- 1712
- 02:09:56,240 --> 02:09:58,550
- Thank you, Lord.
- 1713
- 02:09:59,400 --> 02:10:02,632
- Oh, thank you, Jesus.
- 1714
- 02:10:18,000 --> 02:10:19,878
- <i>I'ma gonna lay down,
- lay down</i>
- 1715
- 02:10:19,960 --> 02:10:23,431
- <i>I'ma gonna lay down, lay down</i>
- 1716
- 02:10:23,520 --> 02:10:30,074
- <i>I'ma gonna lay down my life
- for my Lord</i>
- 1717
- 02:10:30,160 --> 02:10:33,995
- <i>Yes, I'ma gonna lay down, lay down</i>
- 1718
- 02:10:34,080 --> 02:10:37,391
- <i>I'ma gonna lay down, lay down</i>
- 1719
- 02:10:37,480 --> 02:10:42,555
- <i>I'ma gonna lay down my life
- for my Lord</i>
- 1720
- 02:10:42,640 --> 02:10:46,680
- <i>Oh, when them gamblers get together</i>
- 1721
- 02:10:46,760 --> 02:10:49,912
- <i>How they can gamble like one another</i>
- 1722
- 02:10:50,000 --> 02:10:55,359
- <i>But I'ma gonna lay down my life
- for my Lord</i>
- 1723
- 02:10:55,440 --> 02:10:59,275
- <i>Oh, when them drunkards get together</i>
- 1724
- 02:10:59,360 --> 02:11:02,398
- <i>How they can drink like one another</i>
- 1725
- 02:11:02,480 --> 02:11:06,997
- <i>But I'ma gonna lay down my life
- for my Lord</i>
- 1726
- 02:11:07,080 --> 02:11:10,312
- <i>Yes, I'ma gonna lay down my life</i>
- 1727
- 02:11:10,400 --> 02:11:14,076
- <i>Oh, yes, I'm gonna lay down my</i>
- 1728
- 02:11:14,160 --> 02:11:18,677
- <i>Lord, I'm gonna lay down my life
- for my Lord</i>
- 1729
- 02:11:18,760 --> 02:11:22,117
- <i>And John said to lay down my life</i>
- 1730
- 02:11:22,200 --> 02:11:25,591
- <i>Yes, he said, "Lay down, lay down"</i>
- 1731
- 02:11:25,680 --> 02:11:30,038
- <i>John said to lay down my life
- for my Lord</i>
- 1732
- 02:11:30,120 --> 02:11:33,079
- <i>Luke said to lay down, lay down</i>
- 1733
- 02:11:33,160 --> 02:11:36,517
- <i>Oh, Luke said to lay down, lay down</i>
- 1734
- 02:11:36,600 --> 02:11:41,436
- <i>Yeah, Luke said to lay down my life
- for my Lord</i>
- 1735
- 02:11:41,520 --> 02:11:45,036
- <i>Oh, when them dicers get together</i>
- 1736
- 02:11:45,120 --> 02:11:47,954
- <i>How they economize one another</i>
- 1737
- 02:11:48,040 --> 02:11:52,478
- <i>But I'ma gonna lay down my life
- for my Lord</i>
- 1738
- 02:11:52,560 --> 02:11:56,236
- <i>Oh, when them dicers get together</i>
- 1739
- 02:11:56,320 --> 02:11:59,074
- <i>How they economize one another</i>
- 1740
- 02:11:59,200 --> 02:12:03,672
- <i>But I'ma gonna lay down my life
- for my Lord</i>
- 1741
- 02:12:03,760 --> 02:12:07,276
- <i>Oh, when them liars get together</i>
- 1742
- 02:12:07,360 --> 02:12:10,114
- <i>How they can lie like one another</i>
- 1743
- 02:12:10,200 --> 02:12:14,797
- <i>But I'ma gonna lay down my life
- for my Lord</i>
- 1744
- 02:12:14,880 --> 02:12:17,952
- <i>Yes, I'ma gonna lay down, lay down</i>
- 1745
- 02:12:18,040 --> 02:12:21,192
- <i>I'ma gonna lay down, lay down</i>
- 1746
- 02:12:21,280 --> 02:12:28,153
- <i>I know I'm gonna lay down my life
- for my Lord</i>
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