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  3. All right, let's chop and load.
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  7. <i>It was the third of June</i>
  8.  
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  11. <i>Another sleepy, dusty delta day</i>
  12.  
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  15. <i>I was out choppin' cotton</i>
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  19. <i>And my brother was balin' hay</i>
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  23. <i>And at dinner time we stopped</i>
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  27. <i>And walked back to the house to eat</i>
  28.  
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  31. <i>And mama hollered out the back door</i>
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  35. <i>Y'all, remember to...</i>
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  39. Good evening, Officer.
  40.  
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  43. Y'all need my license or anything, huh?
  44.  
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  47. No, that's not necessary.
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  51. That's a sharp-looking truck you got.
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  55. Yes, sir. Thank you.
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  59. Those rims look like
  60. they cost you a pretty penny.
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  64. Who you been working for?
  65.  
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  68. Oh, no, sir. I don't work for nobody.
  69.  
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  72. Got my own pulping business.
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  76. You know,
  77. I clear out all these trees around here.
  78.  
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  81. So, you ain't got no boss
  82. to check in with, huh?
  83.  
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  86. That must be pretty nice.
  87.  
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  90. Free to run up and down the road
  91.  
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  94. wherever you want to,
  95. whenever you want to
  96.  
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  99. in this fancy truck.
  100.  
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  103. Hey, well, not if my wife
  104. got something to say about it.
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  108. Yeah.
  109.  
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  112. I heard that ain't stopped you
  113. before, though.
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  117. Ain't that right, Johnny D.?
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  121. You want to make a break for it? Hmm?
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  125. No, sir, I don't wanna do nothing...
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  129. 'Cause after what you done...
  130.  
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  133. I'm looking for any excuse
  134. to get this over with
  135.  
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  138. right here, right now.
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  142. Sir, I ain't did nothing and I think
  143. y'all got the wrong person here.
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  147. Y'all got me confused with somebody.
  148. And I think...
  149.  
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  152. I ain't got you confused with nobody.
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  156. I don't have a thing to do with this.
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  160. Sir, you got me confused with somebody.
  161. I ain't did nothing wrong.
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  165. <i>We all know Monroeville
  166. as the peaceful town</i>
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  170. where Harper Lee wrote
  171. <i>To Kill a Mockingbird.</i>
  172.  
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  175. <i>Last year, that peace was shattered
  176. by a brutal crime.</i>
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  180. <i>On the 1st of November,
  181. 18-year-old Ronda Morrison</i>
  182.  
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  185. <i>was found dead at Jackson Cleaners.</i>
  186.  
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  189. <i>Morrison had been strangled and shot
  190. by Walter McMillian,</i>
  191.  
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  194. <i>known locally as Johnny D.</i>
  195.  
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  198. <i>McMillian was convicted by a jury
  199. who recommended a life sentence.</i>
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  203. <i>But today, Judge Robert E. Lee Key
  204. overrode their decision</i>
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  208. <i>and sentenced McMillian to death.</i>
  209.  
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  212. <i>We promised the community
  213. that we would find him, and we did.</i>
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  217. <i>You commit a crime like this in my town,</i>
  218.  
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  221. <i>one way or another,
  222. you're gonna pay for it.</i>
  223.  
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  226. <i>As McMillian awaits execution
  227. at Holman Correctional Facility,</i>
  228.  
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  231. <i>a grieving community
  232. can take some solace</i>
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  236. <i>in knowing that, today,
  237. justice has finally been served.</i>
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  241. Thank you.
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  245. You got one hour.
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  249. Um...
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  253. Hi, Mr. Davis. I'm Bryan.
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  257. Henry.
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  261. Um...
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  265. The Southern Prisoners
  266. Defense Committee,
  267.  
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  270. they sent me here to tell you that...
  271.  
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  274. That they don't have
  275. a lawyer for you yet,
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  279. - but they hope to soon.
  280. - You're not a lawyer?
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  284. No. I'm still in school.
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  288. Just interning here for the summer.
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  292. So, you can't tell me nothing
  293. about my case?
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  297. I mean, I was supposed to tell you...
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  301. that you're not at risk of execution
  302. any time within the next year.
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  306. Can you say that again?
  307.  
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  310. That you're not at risk of execution
  311. any time within the next year?
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  315. That's the best news
  316. I've heard in a long time.
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  320. I didn't want my wife or kids...
  321.  
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  324. showing up
  325. if I had an execution date coming.
  326.  
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  329. Now they can come visit.
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  333. Thank you.
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  337. Thank you.
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  341. Serious.
  342.  
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  345. My mom made me join our church choir
  346. when I was, like, four.
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  350. I sang lead baritone
  351. all through high school.
  352.  
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  355. I played piano at my church growing up.
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  359. AME?
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  363. God is good...
  364.  
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  366. 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:07,936
  367. ...all the time.
  368.  
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  371. All the time.
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  375. A couple AME Choir boys
  376. hanging on death row.
  377.  
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  380. My mom would go trip.
  381.  
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  383. 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:16,794
  384. Man, that's crazy.
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  388. What school are you going to?
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  392. I'm at Harvard.
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  396. Seriously? You're going to Harvard?
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  400. That's white-boy status, bro.
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  404. What the hell are you doing
  405. slumming it up in here for?
  406.  
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  409. I'm in law school
  410. because I just wanted to help people.
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  414. Just haven't figured out
  415. the best way to do that yet.
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  419. Honestly, this internship
  420. has been the best experience so far.
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  424. Working on death row
  425. has been your best experience?
  426.  
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  429. You need to get out
  430. more, bro.
  431.  
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  434. Should've been done two hours ago.
  435.  
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  438. - I'm sorry, I didn't realize.
  439. - Supposed to watch the clock.
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  443. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hey, hey, hey. Sir!
  444.  
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  447. Calm down, he didn't do anything!
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  451. You need to shut your mouth.
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  455. It's okay, Bryan.
  456.  
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  459. Don't worry about me.
  460. You just come back.
  461.  
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  463. 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,357
  464. <i>I'm pressing on</i>
  465.  
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  467. 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,671
  468. <i>The upward way</i>
  469.  
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  472. <i>New heights I'm gaining every day</i>
  473.  
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  476. <i>Still praying as</i>
  477.  
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  480. <i>I'm onward bound</i>
  481.  
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  483. 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,032
  484. <i>Lord, plant my feet</i>
  485.  
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  487. 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,432
  488. <i>On higher ground</i>
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  492. - Mom still mad at you?
  493. - For what?
  494.  
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  496. 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:47,520
  497. I don't know.
  498.  
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  501. Maybe for rejecting all those job offers
  502. so you can be poor in Alabama.
  503.  
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  505. 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,920
  506. And Howie telling her about
  507. that lynching in Mobile didn't help.
  508.  
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  510. 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:55,832
  511. - What?
  512. - I said it happened seven years ago.
  513.  
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  515. 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:57,149
  516. Yeah, that made it better.
  517.  
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  519. 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,072
  520. You two were supposed to be on my side.
  521.  
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  524. Pop, how are we looking up there?
  525.  
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  527. 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:02,799
  528. Just added three quarts of oil.
  529.  
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  531. 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:04,496
  532. But you should check it again
  533. when you get there.
  534.  
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  537. All right, thanks.
  538.  
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  540. 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:07,754
  541. Talk to your mom yet?
  542.  
  543. 125
  544. 00:09:14,560 --> 00:09:15,960
  545. What did those leaves do to you?
  546.  
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  548. 00:09:19,680 --> 00:09:21,478
  549. You're not gonna say bye to your son?
  550.  
  551. 127
  552. 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,113
  553. I know you got your law degree now,
  554. and you think you're grown,
  555.  
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  557. 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:27,475
  558. but you're still my child.
  559.  
  560. 129
  561. 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,760
  562. And I'm the one who has to deal
  563. with your funeral arrangements
  564.  
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  566. 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:32,109
  567. if you get killed down there.
  568.  
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  571. - Come on, Ma.
  572. - You think this is funny?
  573.  
  574. 132
  575. 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:37,936
  576. 'Cause if you can't see the danger
  577. in what you're doing,
  578.  
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  581. you need to ask Harvard
  582. for your money back.
  583.  
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  585. 00:09:40,680 --> 00:09:42,319
  586. You used to be smarter than that.
  587.  
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  589. 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:00,996
  590. The first time I visited death row,
  591.  
  592. 136
  593. 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,589
  594. I wasn't expecting to meet somebody
  595. the same age as me.
  596.  
  597. 137
  598. 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,591
  599. Grew up on the same music.
  600. From a neighborhood just like ours.
  601.  
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  603. 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:14,834
  604. Could've been me, Mama.
  605.  
  606. 139
  607. 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,434
  608. I don't wanna move far away from you.
  609. I love you.
  610.  
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  612. 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:23,456
  613. But you always taught me
  614. to fight for the people
  615.  
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  617. 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,073
  618. who need the help the most.
  619.  
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  621. 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,199
  622. I am very proud of you, son.
  623.  
  624. 143
  625. 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:35,672
  626. I know your heart's in the right place.
  627.  
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  630. But it's not that simple.
  631.  
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  633. 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,674
  634. What you're doing is gonna make
  635. a lot of people upset.
  636.  
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  638. 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:46,920
  639. You better be careful.
  640.  
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  642. 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:50,715
  643. I will.
  644.  
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  646. 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:54,715
  647. I promise.
  648.  
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  650. 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,191
  651. There she goes.
  652.  
  653. 150
  654. 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:27,237
  655. <i>My line, your line</i>
  656.  
  657. 151
  658. 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,630
  659. <i>Don't cross them lines</i>
  660.  
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  662. 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:36,114
  663. <i>What you like, what I like</i>
  664.  
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  666. 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,590
  667. <i>Why can't we both be right?</i>
  668.  
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  670. 00:11:41,560 --> 00:11:45,474
  671. <i>Attacking, defending</i>
  672.  
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  674. 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:50,152
  675. <i>Until there's nothing left worth winning</i>
  676.  
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  678. 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:52,474
  679. You gotta be kidding me.
  680.  
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  682. 00:11:52,560 --> 00:11:55,280
  683. We had an agreement to rent this space
  684. for two years.
  685.  
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  687. 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:56,520
  688. You said it was a done deal.
  689.  
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  692. That's before I knew
  693. what you were doing here.
  694.  
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  696. 00:11:58,640 --> 00:11:59,856
  697. We are giving poor people
  698.  
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  700. 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:02,076
  701. their constitutional right
  702. to counsel, Bill.
  703.  
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  705. 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,856
  706. Do you mind explaining to my son
  707. what you think is so wrong with that?
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  711. Eva, what's up?
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  715. Oh, Bryan. Thank God.
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  719. This is the executive director
  720. of our organization.
  721.  
  722. 166
  723. 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:12,480
  724. He just got here and was expecting
  725.  
  726. 167
  727. 00:12:12,560 --> 00:12:14,677
  728. to move into the office
  729. that you promised us.
  730.  
  731. 168
  732. 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:16,918
  733. You said you were the director.
  734.  
  735. 169
  736. 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:18,719
  737. Director of Operations.
  738.  
  739. 170
  740. 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,400
  741. And you're making me look very bad
  742. in front of my boss right now.
  743.  
  744. 171
  745. 00:12:21,680 --> 00:12:22,796
  746. She said you were a lawyer,
  747.  
  748. 172
  749. 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,395
  750. but nobody told me
  751. it was for murderers on death row.
  752.  
  753. 173
  754. 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,196
  755. We're providing legal services
  756. to people who need help.
  757.  
  758. 174
  759. 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,237
  760. And they'll have to do it
  761. someplace else.
  762.  
  763. 175
  764. 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,277
  765. 'Cause I can't have people like that
  766. around here.
  767.  
  768. 176
  769. 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,152
  770. Not everyone is in there
  771. for a good reason, sir.
  772.  
  773. 177
  774. 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:38,839
  775. Y'all have a good day now.
  776.  
  777. 178
  778. 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,075
  779. What a piece of shit.
  780.  
  781. 179
  782. 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,550
  783. I'm so sorry. This is not
  784. how I wanted to welcome you here.
  785.  
  786. 180
  787. 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:48,518
  788. I will find us an office,
  789. I promise you I will.
  790.  
  791. 181
  792. 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:49,875
  793. I just gotta change my tactics.
  794.  
  795. 182
  796. 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:51,917
  797. It'll be fine.
  798. We can work from anywhere.
  799.  
  800. 183
  801. 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,496
  802. Yeah, we'll just have Kris
  803. clean up his toys in the living room.
  804.  
  805. 184
  806. 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:55,749
  807. - Right, Kris?
  808. - Oh, yeah?
  809.  
  810. 185
  811. 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,230
  812. I'll think about it.
  813.  
  814. 186
  815. 00:12:58,360 --> 00:12:59,589
  816. I'm sorry for cussing, baby.
  817.  
  818. 187
  819. 00:12:59,680 --> 00:13:00,680
  820. It's okay.
  821.  
  822. 188
  823. 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:02,800
  824. He was a piece of shit, though.
  825.  
  826. 189
  827. 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,832
  828. I was a psychology major writing a paper
  829. on capital punishment
  830.  
  831. 190
  832. 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,719
  833. when I met my first death row inmate,
  834. Wayne Ritter.
  835.  
  836. 191
  837. 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,354
  838. He and his friend robbed
  839. a pawn shop in Mobile.
  840.  
  841. 192
  842. 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,120
  843. His friend shot the owner
  844. and they both got death.
  845.  
  846. 193
  847. 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:19,999
  848. Is he the reason why you got into this?
  849.  
  850. 194
  851. 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,794
  852. His attorney was openly in favor
  853. of the death penalty.
  854.  
  855. 195
  856. 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:26,792
  857. He thought mad dogs ought to die.
  858.  
  859. 196
  860. 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,879
  861. A lot of the folks on death row
  862. either had shitty representation
  863.  
  864. 197
  865. 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,794
  866. or none at all. So, I just started
  867. calling every law firm
  868.  
  869. 198
  870. 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,520
  871. in the Yellow Pages, just trying
  872. to find anybody that could help.
  873.  
  874. 199
  875. 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,039
  876. I was averaging 20 rejections a day.
  877.  
  878. 200
  879. 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:42,394
  880. She was pretty stressed out.
  881.  
  882. 201
  883. 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:44,832
  884. I was just about to give up
  885.  
  886. 202
  887. 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,435
  888. when I got a call from a Harvard lawyer
  889.  
  890. 203
  891. 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,989
  892. saying that he had just passed
  893. the Alabama Bar
  894.  
  895. 204
  896. 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,716
  897. and had federal funding
  898. to start a legal center
  899.  
  900. 205
  901. 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:54,359
  902. for inmates on death row.
  903.  
  904. 206
  905. 00:13:55,680 --> 00:13:57,797
  906. I was in before
  907. you even offered me the job.
  908.  
  909. 207
  910. 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:00,632
  911. And before you knew
  912. I couldn't pay you anything.
  913.  
  914. 208
  915. 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:02,196
  916. What's that?
  917.  
  918. 209
  919. 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:03,515
  920. Oh, yeah, Doug doesn't know
  921.  
  922. 210
  923. 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:04,736
  924. about that part yet.
  925.  
  926. 211
  927. 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:05,910
  928. - Sorry, honey.
  929. - All right.
  930.  
  931. 212
  932. 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,196
  933. How's it going, son? You seem tired.
  934.  
  935. 213
  936. 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:10,879
  937. Okay. Let's go brush your teeth.
  938.  
  939. 214
  940. 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:11,996
  941. Excuse us.
  942.  
  943. 215
  944. 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:15,640
  945. I'll make up the couch for you, Bryan.
  946.  
  947. 216
  948. 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:18,800
  949. I'm excited about what you're doing.
  950.  
  951. 217
  952. 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:22,560
  953. Me, too.
  954.  
  955. 218
  956. 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:39,599
  957. I should be in the log.
  958.  
  959. 219
  960. 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:41,399
  961. I'm scheduled to see six clients today.
  962.  
  963. 220
  964. 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:45,594
  965. Well, I ain't seen you before.
  966.  
  967. 221
  968. 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:48,599
  969. That's because I just moved here.
  970.  
  971. 222
  972. 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:52,875
  973. You really a lawyer?
  974.  
  975. 223
  976. 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:56,753
  977. Yes. I am.
  978.  
  979. 224
  980. 00:15:58,440 --> 00:15:59,874
  981. Well, I'm gonna have to search you.
  982.  
  983. 225
  984. 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,436
  985. Just go on in that room there
  986. and take everything off.
  987.  
  988. 226
  989. 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,590
  990. Attorneys aren't strip-searched
  991. for legal visits.
  992.  
  993. 227
  994. 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,837
  995. Well, you ain't gonna visit shit
  996. unless you get in that room and strip.
  997.  
  998. 228
  999. 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:12,995
  1000. Let's go.
  1001.  
  1002. 229
  1003. 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:34,075
  1004. Pants and underwear.
  1005.  
  1006. 230
  1007. 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:02,674
  1008. Bend over and spread.
  1009.  
  1010. 231
  1011. 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:12,480
  1012. You're clear.
  1013.  
  1014. 232
  1015. 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,074
  1016. <i>I fought in Nam.</i>
  1017.  
  1018. 233
  1019. 00:17:48,360 --> 00:17:50,033
  1020. First Cavalry Division.
  1021.  
  1022. 234
  1023. 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,112
  1024. Saw a lot of friends die.
  1025.  
  1026. 235
  1027. 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:02,030
  1028. Doctor said I got PTSD.
  1029.  
  1030. 236
  1031. 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:09,120
  1032. I did what they said I did. I...
  1033.  
  1034. 237
  1035. 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,120
  1036. I put the bomb on her porch.
  1037.  
  1038. 238
  1039. 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:18,951
  1040. I know it don't make sense...
  1041.  
  1042. 239
  1043. 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,439
  1044. but I didn't mean to kill nobody.
  1045.  
  1046. 240
  1047. 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:33,877
  1048. I think they're gonna
  1049. set my execution soon.
  1050.  
  1051. 241
  1052. 00:18:35,120 --> 00:18:38,272
  1053. Last lawyer said
  1054. there ain't nothing left to do.
  1055.  
  1056. 242
  1057. 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:43,392
  1058. There's always something that we can do.
  1059.  
  1060. 243
  1061. 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,719
  1062. Whatever you did,
  1063. your life is still meaningful.
  1064.  
  1065. 244
  1066. 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,834
  1067. And I'm gonna do everything possible
  1068. to keep them from taking it.
  1069.  
  1070. 245
  1071. 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,750
  1072. Now, tell me everything that happened.
  1073.  
  1074. 246
  1075. 00:19:06,120 --> 00:19:10,672
  1076. I was given a court-appointed lawyer,
  1077. and he was pretty pitiful.
  1078.  
  1079. 247
  1080. 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:14,310
  1081. Never really talked to me about
  1082. setting up a defense.
  1083.  
  1084. 248
  1085. 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,153
  1086. I probably met the dude three times.
  1087.  
  1088. 249
  1089. 00:19:18,120 --> 00:19:19,120
  1090. Literally.
  1091.  
  1092. 250
  1093. 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,190
  1094. <i>He told me that it would be
  1095. in my best interest</i>
  1096.  
  1097. 251
  1098. 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,511
  1099. <i>to plead no contest
  1100. to all of those charges.</i>
  1101.  
  1102. 252
  1103. 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,120
  1104. I'm gonna plead not guilty.
  1105.  
  1106. 253
  1107. 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,795
  1108. I said, "I didn't do it.
  1109. I didn't have nothing to do with that."
  1110.  
  1111. 254
  1112. 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:30,997
  1113. "You're 20 right now,
  1114. if you take this plea
  1115.  
  1116. 255
  1117. 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,756
  1118. and you do the whole time,
  1119. you'll only be 45 when you get out."
  1120.  
  1121. 256
  1122. 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,960
  1123. <i>In the middle of my trial,
  1124. which only lasted</i>
  1125.  
  1126. 257
  1127. 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,552
  1128. 45 minutes to a hour,
  1129. which is unheard of...
  1130.  
  1131. 258
  1132. 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:45,953
  1133. He wouldn't let me take the stand.
  1134. So, they ended up finding me guilty.
  1135.  
  1136. 259
  1137. 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:50,040
  1138. The judge laughed at me and said
  1139. rehabilitation was a 70-year-old joke.
  1140.  
  1141. 260
  1142. 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,150
  1143. <i>My lawyer, he was there,
  1144. but he wasn't there.</i>
  1145.  
  1146. 261
  1147. 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:57,313
  1148. It was like I was by myself.
  1149.  
  1150. 262
  1151. 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,795
  1152. Last lawyer I had,
  1153. sitting where you sit, said...
  1154.  
  1155. 263
  1156. 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,241
  1157. "Johnny D., don't worry about nothing,
  1158. everything gonna be all right."
  1159.  
  1160. 264
  1161. 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,557
  1162. Then they put that death sentence on me.
  1163.  
  1164. 265
  1165. 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:30,997
  1166. Family run out of money.
  1167.  
  1168. 266
  1169. 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:32,719
  1170. Money run out, he run out.
  1171.  
  1172. 267
  1173. 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,034
  1174. What you gonna do different?
  1175.  
  1176. 268
  1177. 00:20:41,360 --> 00:20:43,496
  1178. Well, the first thing we could do
  1179. is apply for a retrial.
  1180.  
  1181. 269
  1182. 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,477
  1183. I already did that. They denied it.
  1184.  
  1185. 270
  1186. 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,194
  1187. It's right there in your files.
  1188.  
  1189. 271
  1190. 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,914
  1191. Okay, then we can ask
  1192. for a reconsideration on that.
  1193.  
  1194. 272
  1195. 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:57,976
  1196. Then a direct appeal
  1197. to the Court of Criminal Appeals
  1198.  
  1199. 273
  1200. 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,435
  1201. and work our way up
  1202. to the State Supreme Court.
  1203.  
  1204. 274
  1205. 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,876
  1206. If we get denied there,
  1207. we could file a Rule 32.
  1208.  
  1209. 275
  1210. 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:04,360
  1211. Then a federal habeas petition.
  1212.  
  1213. 276
  1214. 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,216
  1215. And if all that fails, Mr. McMillian,
  1216. we could take your case
  1217.  
  1218. 277
  1219. 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:08,336
  1220. all the way to the Supreme Court.
  1221.  
  1222. 278
  1223. 00:21:08,360 --> 00:21:10,397
  1224. You don't know what you into
  1225. down here, do you?
  1226.  
  1227. 279
  1228. 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,000
  1229. You think all of them fancy words
  1230.  
  1231. 280
  1232. 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,037
  1233. gonna get you somewhere
  1234. around here in Alabama?
  1235.  
  1236. 281
  1237. 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,871
  1238. All they gonna do
  1239. is eat you alive and spit you out
  1240.  
  1241. 282
  1242. 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,158
  1243. just like every other black man they do,
  1244. when they step out of line.
  1245.  
  1246. 283
  1247. 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,072
  1248. You coming around here
  1249. with them fancy suits,
  1250.  
  1251. 284
  1252. 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,669
  1253. talking all white, these people
  1254. don't give a damn about that.
  1255.  
  1256. 285
  1257. 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,480
  1258. The only suit they wanna see a nigga in
  1259. is the suit I got on.
  1260.  
  1261. 286
  1262. 00:21:33,360 --> 00:21:35,016
  1263. Mr. McMillian,
  1264. I can see how that could be hard...
  1265.  
  1266. 287
  1267. 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:36,440
  1268. No, you don't!
  1269.  
  1270. 288
  1271. 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,633
  1272. No, you don't.
  1273. No, you don't. No, you don't.
  1274.  
  1275. 289
  1276. 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,399
  1277. You a rich boy from Harvard,
  1278. you don't know what it is down here.
  1279.  
  1280. 290
  1281. 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,516
  1282. When you're guilty
  1283. from the moment you born.
  1284.  
  1285. 291
  1286. 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,360
  1287. And you can buddy up with
  1288. these white folks and make them laugh
  1289.  
  1290. 292
  1291. 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,397
  1292. and try to make them like you,
  1293. whatever that is,
  1294.  
  1295. 293
  1296. 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,696
  1297. and you say, "Yes, sir. No, ma'am."
  1298. But when it's your turn,
  1299.  
  1300. 294
  1301. 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,313
  1302. they ain't got to have no fingerprints.
  1303.  
  1304. 295
  1305. 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:04,835
  1306. No evidence.
  1307.  
  1308. 296
  1309. 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,391
  1310. And the only witness they got
  1311. made the whole thing up.
  1312.  
  1313. 297
  1314. 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,836
  1315. Ain't none of that matter,
  1316. when all y'all think is
  1317.  
  1318. 298
  1319. 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,274
  1320. is I look like a man...
  1321.  
  1322. 299
  1323. 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,274
  1324. who could kill somebody.
  1325.  
  1326. 300
  1327. 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,439
  1328. But that's not what I think.
  1329.  
  1330. 301
  1331. 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,080
  1332. Mmm.
  1333.  
  1334. 302
  1335. 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,393
  1336. You know how many people have been freed
  1337. from Alabama death row?
  1338.  
  1339. 303
  1340. 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:39,796
  1341. None.
  1342.  
  1343. 304
  1344. 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,790
  1345. What make you think
  1346. you gonna change that?
  1347.  
  1348. 305
  1349. 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:54,634
  1350. I ain't doing this shit again.
  1351.  
  1352. 306
  1353. 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:56,799
  1354. - Guard.
  1355. - Mr. McMillian...
  1356.  
  1357. 307
  1358. 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:58,553
  1359. We done here.
  1360.  
  1361. 308
  1362. 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,199
  1363. Mr. McMillian, please.
  1364.  
  1365. 309
  1366. 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,436
  1367. I'm here to help.
  1368.  
  1369. 310
  1370. 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,080
  1371. - What's up, Johnny D.?
  1372. - Say hello!
  1373.  
  1374. 311
  1375. 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:12,953
  1376. How's it going, my brother?
  1377.  
  1378. 312
  1379. 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:14,190
  1380. How'd it go?
  1381.  
  1382. 313
  1383. 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,880
  1384. How you treating them needs,
  1385. motherfucker?
  1386.  
  1387. 314
  1388. 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:41,600
  1389. Johnny D.?
  1390.  
  1391. 315
  1392. 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,039
  1393. Johnny D., you there?
  1394.  
  1395. 316
  1396. 00:23:45,120 --> 00:23:46,236
  1397. 'Sup, Herb?
  1398.  
  1399. 317
  1400. 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:48,676
  1401. Ray there?
  1402.  
  1403. 318
  1404. 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:52,430
  1405. Ray.
  1406.  
  1407. 319
  1408. 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,513
  1409. Unavailable at the moment.
  1410.  
  1411. 320
  1412. 00:23:56,360 --> 00:23:58,477
  1413. Where you at?
  1414.  
  1415. 321
  1416. 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,352
  1417. Buckingham Palace.
  1418. I'm having tea with the queen.
  1419.  
  1420. 322
  1421. 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:03,920
  1422. Huh.
  1423.  
  1424. 323
  1425. 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,152
  1426. She's a very nice lady.
  1427. I'll let you know when we done.
  1428.  
  1429. 324
  1430. 00:24:09,120 --> 00:24:12,272
  1431. Hey, Johnny D.,
  1432. what you think of the lawyer?
  1433.  
  1434. 325
  1435. 00:24:13,120 --> 00:24:14,349
  1436. I think he a kid.
  1437.  
  1438. 326
  1439. 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,634
  1440. Don't know what he's talking about.
  1441.  
  1442. 327
  1443. 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,075
  1444. Making all these promises
  1445. he ain't gonna be able to keep.
  1446.  
  1447. 328
  1448. 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:23,992
  1449. I... I thought he was nice.
  1450.  
  1451. 329
  1452. 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,274
  1453. Nice?
  1454.  
  1455. 330
  1456. 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,437
  1457. The hell you want a nice lawyer for?
  1458.  
  1459. 331
  1460. 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,317
  1461. Nice ain't gonna get you shit.
  1462.  
  1463. 332
  1464. 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:32,595
  1465. Look at Johnny D.
  1466.  
  1467. 333
  1468. 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,157
  1469. Nice as a puppy, yet he in here with us.
  1470.  
  1471. 334
  1472. 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,116
  1473. Well, I didn't know
  1474. you thought about me like that, Ray.
  1475.  
  1476. 335
  1477. 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,431
  1478. I mean, just you nice and everything...
  1479.  
  1480. 336
  1481. 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,796
  1482. You not as nice as La Toya Jackson,
  1483.  
  1484. 337
  1485. 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,395
  1486. but for a old man on the row,
  1487. you a'ight.
  1488.  
  1489. 338
  1490. 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,279
  1491. Hey, I thought you said
  1492. I was the old man.
  1493.  
  1494. 339
  1495. 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,195
  1496. Well, Johnny D. is old, Herb,
  1497. you more ancient.
  1498.  
  1499. 340
  1500. 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,518
  1501. Sorry to tell you.
  1502.  
  1503. 341
  1504. 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:01,949
  1505. Herb, turn that music up.
  1506.  
  1507. 342
  1508. 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,070
  1509. You got it.
  1510.  
  1511. 343
  1512. 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,515
  1513. All right. Here...
  1514.  
  1515. 344
  1516. 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:26,915
  1517. Bryan...
  1518.  
  1519. 345
  1520. 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:29,794
  1521. did you get any sleep?
  1522.  
  1523. 346
  1524. 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,194
  1525. I, uh...
  1526.  
  1527. 347
  1528. 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,034
  1529. I don't think McMillian did it.
  1530.  
  1531. 348
  1532. 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,637
  1533. The state based its entire case
  1534. on the testimony of one man.
  1535.  
  1536. 349
  1537. 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,154
  1538. Ralph Myers.
  1539.  
  1540. 350
  1541. 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,436
  1542. Myers spent most of his life
  1543. in and out of prison.
  1544.  
  1545. 351
  1546. 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,274
  1547. When he testified,
  1548. he was on trial for a different murder,
  1549.  
  1550. 352
  1551. 00:26:46,360 --> 00:26:47,920
  1552. which he ended up getting 30 years for.
  1553.  
  1554. 353
  1555. 00:26:48,360 --> 00:26:49,760
  1556. Seems like a pretty good deal.
  1557.  
  1558. 354
  1559. 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,674
  1560. In his statement, he said that
  1561. Johnny D. approached him at a car wash
  1562.  
  1563. 355
  1564. 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:57,391
  1565. and forced him at gunpoint to drive to
  1566. Jackson Cleaners because his arm hurt.
  1567.  
  1568. 356
  1569. 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:58,880
  1570. That sounds logical.
  1571.  
  1572. 357
  1573. 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,976
  1574. When they get there, Johnny D.
  1575. tells him to wait in the truck
  1576.  
  1577. 358
  1578. 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,275
  1579. while he goes inside.
  1580.  
  1581. 359
  1582. 00:27:02,360 --> 00:27:04,556
  1583. And while he's waiting
  1584. for his kidnapper,
  1585.  
  1586. 360
  1587. 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,597
  1588. he doesn't run,
  1589. he doesn't go to the police.
  1590.  
  1591. 361
  1592. 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,639
  1593. Instead, he drives to the liquor store
  1594. for cigarettes
  1595.  
  1596. 362
  1597. 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,473
  1598. and then comes back to the crime scene.
  1599.  
  1600. 363
  1601. 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:13,350
  1602. Excuse me?
  1603.  
  1604. 364
  1605. 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,591
  1606. Myers hears gunshots, goes inside
  1607.  
  1608. 365
  1609. 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,912
  1610. and sees the body of Ronda Morrison
  1611. lying on the ground, face up,
  1612.  
  1613. 366
  1614. 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,151
  1615. and Johnny D. standing over her
  1616. with a gun
  1617.  
  1618. 367
  1619. 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,358
  1620. with some older white guy
  1621. who he claimed was in charge.
  1622.  
  1623. 368
  1624. 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,672
  1625. - Anyone trying to look for him?
  1626. - Exactly.
  1627.  
  1628. 369
  1629. 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,432
  1630. Oh, wait. They have one other witness
  1631. to back his testimony.
  1632.  
  1633. 370
  1634. 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,432
  1635. A young black man named Bill Hooks.
  1636.  
  1637. 371
  1638. 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,318
  1639. Says he saw Johnny D.'s low-rider truck
  1640.  
  1641. 372
  1642. 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,790
  1643. leaving the cleaners
  1644. around the time of the murder.
  1645.  
  1646. 373
  1647. 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:38,880
  1648. And that's it.
  1649.  
  1650. 374
  1651. 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:40,640
  1652. That's all they have.
  1653.  
  1654. 375
  1655. 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:42,960
  1656. Hmm.
  1657.  
  1658. 376
  1659. 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,596
  1660. So, an 18-year-old white girl
  1661. is murdered in broad daylight
  1662.  
  1663. 377
  1664. 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,680
  1665. and the sheriff can't solve the crime
  1666. for how long?
  1667.  
  1668. 378
  1669. 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,154
  1670. Almost a year.
  1671.  
  1672. 379
  1673. 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,358
  1674. And then some other guy
  1675. who's charged with a different murder
  1676.  
  1677. 380
  1678. 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,160
  1679. says that he can tell them who did it
  1680. if he gets a lower sentence.
  1681.  
  1682. 381
  1683. 00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,320
  1684. And the guy that he says did it
  1685.  
  1686. 382
  1687. 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,676
  1688. happens to be a black man
  1689. from a poor community
  1690.  
  1691. 383
  1692. 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,240
  1693. that no one would think twice about.
  1694.  
  1695. 384
  1696. 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,273
  1697. There's gotta be
  1698. more evidence than this.
  1699.  
  1700. 385
  1701. 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,678
  1702. I want to set a meeting with the DA.
  1703.  
  1704. 386
  1705. 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,314
  1706. Tommy Chapman just took over for Pearson
  1707. a few months ago.
  1708.  
  1709. 387
  1710. 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:18,474
  1711. He used to be a public defender.
  1712.  
  1713. 388
  1714. 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,112
  1715. Maybe he's not in line
  1716. with the rest of 'em.
  1717.  
  1718. 389
  1719. 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,112
  1720. You visit the Mockingbird Museum yet?
  1721.  
  1722. 390
  1723. 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:41,560
  1724. Uh, no, ma'am.
  1725.  
  1726. 391
  1727. 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,360
  1728. It's the old courthouse
  1729. Harper Lee's daddy used to work in.
  1730.  
  1731. 392
  1732. 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,675
  1733. You can stand right where
  1734. Atticus Finch once stood.
  1735.  
  1736. 393
  1737. 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,514
  1738. - Mr. Stevenson? I'm Tommy Chapman.
  1739. - Hey.
  1740.  
  1741. 394
  1742. 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:55,795
  1743. - You find us okay?
  1744. - I did.
  1745.  
  1746. 395
  1747. 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,434
  1748. - Good. Follow me.
  1749. - Yeah.
  1750.  
  1751. 396
  1752. 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:58,749
  1753. Thank you, Tracy.
  1754.  
  1755. 397
  1756. 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,839
  1757. A lot of people are very keen
  1758. to meet you, Mr. Stevenson.
  1759.  
  1760. 398
  1761. 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,718
  1762. - Oh, really?
  1763. - Well, you're a Harvard lawyer
  1764.  
  1765. 399
  1766. 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,519
  1767. who's moved to Alabama.
  1768.  
  1769. 400
  1770. 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,956
  1771. You know, you start taking on
  1772. all these capital cases,
  1773.  
  1774. 401
  1775. 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,999
  1776. people just wanna know
  1777. what your intentions are, I guess.
  1778.  
  1779. 402
  1780. 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,536
  1781. We're just trying
  1782. to give legal assistance
  1783.  
  1784. 403
  1785. 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:14,835
  1786. to people who can't afford it.
  1787.  
  1788. 404
  1789. 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,479
  1790. Well, legal assistance is one thing,
  1791.  
  1792. 405
  1793. 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,760
  1794. but trying to put convicted murderers
  1795. back on the street
  1796.  
  1797. 406
  1798. 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,200
  1799. is something else entirely.
  1800.  
  1801. 407
  1802. 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,416
  1803. Anyway, you didn't come
  1804. all the way down here
  1805.  
  1806. 408
  1807. 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:24,715
  1808. to talk about that.
  1809.  
  1810. 409
  1811. 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,200
  1812. What can I do for you today, Bryan?
  1813.  
  1814. 410
  1815. 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,240
  1816. I wanted to speak to you
  1817. about Johnny D. McMillian.
  1818.  
  1819. 411
  1820. 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,312
  1821. You know I wasn't part
  1822. of his prosecution, right?
  1823.  
  1824. 412
  1825. 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:32,800
  1826. That was way before my time.
  1827.  
  1828. 413
  1829. 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,111
  1830. And that's exactly
  1831. why I wanted to meet you.
  1832.  
  1833. 414
  1834. 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,336
  1835. You see, I've read through the record
  1836. quite a few times now
  1837.  
  1838. 415
  1839. 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,319
  1840. and I have some serious doubts
  1841. about the reliability of his conviction.
  1842.  
  1843. 416
  1844. 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,960
  1845. If you could take a look
  1846. at the sections I've highlighted here,
  1847.  
  1848. 417
  1849. 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,870
  1850. you'll see some problems
  1851. with Ralph Myers' testimony.
  1852.  
  1853. 418
  1854. 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,558
  1855. Man, this is one of
  1856. the most outrageous crimes
  1857.  
  1858. 419
  1859. 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:54,879
  1860. in Monroe County history.
  1861.  
  1862. 420
  1863. 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,072
  1864. Your client made
  1865. a lot of people very angry.
  1866.  
  1867. 421
  1868. 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,712
  1869. I understand that, but there are
  1870. some serious problems with this case.
  1871.  
  1872. 422
  1873. 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,553
  1874. And I was hoping
  1875. that I can get your support
  1876.  
  1877. 423
  1878. 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,279
  1879. to figure out what really happened.
  1880.  
  1881. 424
  1882. 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:08,880
  1883. I already know what happened.
  1884.  
  1885. 425
  1886. 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,109
  1887. Johnny D. McMillian
  1888. was convicted by a jury
  1889.  
  1890. 426
  1891. 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,113
  1892. of brutally murdering a teenage girl
  1893. in my community.
  1894.  
  1895. 427
  1896. 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,830
  1897. And it is my job to defend
  1898. the integrity of that conviction.
  1899.  
  1900. 428
  1901. 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,400
  1902. Even if that conviction
  1903. is based on false testimony?
  1904.  
  1905. 429
  1906. 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,711
  1907. You're the only one I know
  1908. who thinks that.
  1909.  
  1910. 430
  1911. 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,712
  1912. Then I must be the only one
  1913. who read that record
  1914.  
  1915. 431
  1916. 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,598
  1917. because it's pretty obvious.
  1918.  
  1919. 432
  1920. 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,199
  1921. That man caused a lot of pain.
  1922.  
  1923. 433
  1924. 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,079
  1925. A lot of pain for folks around here.
  1926.  
  1927. 434
  1928. 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,797
  1929. And if you go digging in those wounds...
  1930.  
  1931. 435
  1932. 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,356
  1933. you're gonna be making
  1934. a lot of people very unhappy.
  1935.  
  1936. 436
  1937. 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,351
  1938. Well, it isn't my job
  1939. to make people happy.
  1940.  
  1941. 437
  1942. 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,432
  1943. It's to achieve justice for my client.
  1944.  
  1945. 438
  1946. 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:01,356
  1947. Well...
  1948.  
  1949. 439
  1950. 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,280
  1951. Ralph Myers' two confessions
  1952. and a statement from Bill Hooks.
  1953.  
  1954. 440
  1955. 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,434
  1956. I asked for copies of all the police
  1957. and witness statements.
  1958.  
  1959. 441
  1960. 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:13,749
  1961. That's what you're holding.
  1962.  
  1963. 442
  1964. 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,593
  1965. This is a joke. Where's the rest of it?
  1966.  
  1967. 443
  1968. 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,876
  1969. That's what's relevant
  1970. to the McMillian case.
  1971.  
  1972. 444
  1973. 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,794
  1974. If you want more, you'll have to file
  1975. a discovery motion with the court
  1976.  
  1977. 445
  1978. 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,280
  1979. just like anybody else.
  1980.  
  1981. 446
  1982. 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,830
  1983. Thanks for coming by today,
  1984. Mr. Stevenson.
  1985.  
  1986. 447
  1987. 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:28,869
  1988. Expect that motion soon.
  1989.  
  1990. 448
  1991. 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,440
  1992. I'll look forward to it, Counselor.
  1993.  
  1994. 449
  1995. 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,435
  1996. You oughta check out
  1997. the Mockingbird Museum
  1998.  
  1999. 450
  2000. 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:35,670
  2001. on your way out of town.
  2002.  
  2003. 451
  2004. 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,835
  2005. It's one of the great civil rights
  2006. landmarks of the South.
  2007.  
  2008. 452
  2009. 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,394
  2010. Hmm.
  2011.  
  2012. 453
  2013. 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:55,715
  2014. Keep in line.
  2015.  
  2016. 454
  2017. 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,877
  2018. Helping a black man
  2019. convicted of killing a white girl
  2020.  
  2021. 455
  2022. 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,917
  2023. is political suicide in that county.
  2024.  
  2025. 456
  2026. 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,879
  2027. I'm sure he's being reminded of that
  2028. by whoever got him his job.
  2029.  
  2030. 457
  2031. 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,475
  2032. The way he was talking,
  2033. I don't even think he read the record.
  2034.  
  2035. 458
  2036. 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:12,994
  2037. That doesn't surprise me.
  2038.  
  2039. 459
  2040. 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,994
  2041. Hey, Kris, Bobby,
  2042. come on in and get your snack.
  2043.  
  2044. 460
  2045. 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:18,120
  2046. Okay.
  2047.  
  2048. 461
  2049. 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,920
  2050. I'm gonna stop by Jackson Cleaners
  2051. on my way to meet his family.
  2052.  
  2053. 462
  2054. 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,759
  2055. <i>Okay. If I don't hear from you
  2056. by morning,</i>
  2057.  
  2058. 463
  2059. 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,160
  2060. I'll send a rescue party.
  2061.  
  2062. 464
  2063. 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:25,720
  2064. <i>I hope that's a joke.</i>
  2065.  
  2066. 465
  2067. 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,075
  2068. Me, too.
  2069.  
  2070. 466
  2071. 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,398
  2072. But just be careful, okay?
  2073.  
  2074. 467
  2075. 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:50,510
  2076. That's him.
  2077.  
  2078. 468
  2079. 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,871
  2080. - You the lawyer?
  2081. - Yes, ma'am.
  2082.  
  2083. 469
  2084. 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:55,553
  2085. My name is Bryan Stevenson.
  2086.  
  2087. 470
  2088. 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:56,994
  2089. I'm Johnny D.'s wife, Minnie.
  2090.  
  2091. 471
  2092. 00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:58,950
  2093. Pleasure to meet you.
  2094.  
  2095. 472
  2096. 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,714
  2097. Thank you so much
  2098. for driving all the way out here.
  2099.  
  2100. 473
  2101. 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,679
  2102. - Most lawyers barely make time to call.
  2103. - Hmm.
  2104.  
  2105. 474
  2106. 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,191
  2107. This is our younger son, John.
  2108. Our baby girl, Jackie.
  2109.  
  2110. 475
  2111. 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:16,710
  2112. I hope you don't mind,
  2113.  
  2114. 476
  2115. 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,634
  2116. a few of our neighbors stopped by
  2117. to hear what you got to say.
  2118.  
  2119. 477
  2120. 00:34:19,720 --> 00:34:22,758
  2121. Oh, just a few?
  2122.  
  2123. 478
  2124. 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,633
  2125. - Come on. You'll be all right.
  2126. - Okay.
  2127.  
  2128. 479
  2129. 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,639
  2130. Hey, now, we ain't gonna get nowhere
  2131.  
  2132. 480
  2133. 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,911
  2134. with everybody quacking
  2135. at the same time.
  2136.  
  2137. 481
  2138. 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,673
  2139. Now, let Mr. Stevenson talk.
  2140.  
  2141. 482
  2142. 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:46,160
  2143. Um... It's a pleasure
  2144. to meet all of you.
  2145.  
  2146. 483
  2147. 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:49,275
  2148. Thank you. Um...
  2149.  
  2150. 484
  2151. 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,951
  2152. Now, I know you all
  2153. have a lot of questions,
  2154.  
  2155. 485
  2156. 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,271
  2157. but I really would love to hear
  2158. from you guys first,
  2159.  
  2160. 486
  2161. 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,876
  2162. just to get a better understanding
  2163. of your perspective on things.
  2164.  
  2165. 487
  2166. 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,874
  2167. Our perspective is ain't no way
  2168. Johnny D. did this crime.
  2169.  
  2170. 488
  2171. 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,437
  2172. The morning that girl was killed,
  2173.  
  2174. 489
  2175. 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,594
  2176. we was all having a fish fry here
  2177. to raise money for the church.
  2178.  
  2179. 490
  2180. 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,639
  2181. - Johnny D. was here. Morning till night.
  2182. - Mmm-hmm.
  2183.  
  2184. 491
  2185. 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,194
  2186. Working on his truck with John.
  2187.  
  2188. 492
  2189. 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:18,794
  2190. You were with your dad that day?
  2191.  
  2192. 493
  2193. 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,313
  2194. Yeah, we was up at 6:00 in the morning
  2195. to put the truck on the rack.
  2196.  
  2197. 494
  2198. 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:23,720
  2199. Jimmy was there, too.
  2200.  
  2201. 495
  2202. 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,359
  2203. Yep. We had that tranny
  2204.  
  2205. 496
  2206. 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,160
  2207. - cleaned out by 9:30.
  2208. - Mmm-hmm.
  2209.  
  2210. 497
  2211. 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,470
  2212. Now, how he supposed to kidnap
  2213.  
  2214. 498
  2215. 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,031
  2216. some crazy white man
  2217. all the way in Evergreen,
  2218.  
  2219. 499
  2220. 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:39,558
  2221. then drive back to Jackson Cleaners
  2222. to kill that girl at 10:15
  2223.  
  2224. 500
  2225. 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,075
  2226. - if his truck ain't got no transmission?
  2227. - Hello.
  2228.  
  2229. 501
  2230. 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,511
  2231. How many of you all
  2232. were with Walter that morning?
  2233.  
  2234. 502
  2235. 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,994
  2236. My husband could have never done this,
  2237. no kind of way.
  2238.  
  2239. 503
  2240. 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,675
  2241. Whether we was with him or not,
  2242. he is just not like that.
  2243.  
  2244. 504
  2245. 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,120
  2246. Well, everybody know they went after him
  2247. 'cause of that woman.
  2248.  
  2249. 505
  2250. 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:09,960
  2251. Sorry, Minnie.
  2252.  
  2253. 506
  2254. 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:12,480
  2255. It's okay.
  2256.  
  2257. 507
  2258. 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:15,355
  2259. It ain't no secret.
  2260.  
  2261. 508
  2262. 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,016
  2263. A few months before the murder,
  2264.  
  2265. 509
  2266. 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,635
  2267. Johnny D. got caught messing around
  2268. with a white woman in town.
  2269.  
  2270. 510
  2271. 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,230
  2272. When her husband find out about it,
  2273. he made sure everybody knew.
  2274.  
  2275. 511
  2276. 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:30,030
  2277. People started talking,
  2278. and the stories kept growing.
  2279.  
  2280. 512
  2281. 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,954
  2282. He went from being a cheat,
  2283. to a drug dealer,
  2284.  
  2285. 513
  2286. 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:34,952
  2287. to head of the Dixie Mafia.
  2288.  
  2289. 514
  2290. 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:36,918
  2291. So, by the time
  2292. somebody call him a murderer,
  2293.  
  2294. 515
  2295. 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,071
  2296. ain't nobody thought twice about it.
  2297.  
  2298. 516
  2299. 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:40,833
  2300. They can call it what they want,
  2301.  
  2302. 517
  2303. 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,196
  2304. this is just another way
  2305. to lynch a black man.
  2306.  
  2307. 518
  2308. 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:44,560
  2309. Amen.
  2310.  
  2311. 519
  2312. 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,000
  2313. Amen.
  2314.  
  2315. 520
  2316. 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,400
  2317. There ain't no excuse
  2318.  
  2319. 521
  2320. 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,392
  2321. for what my husband did to me
  2322. and this family.
  2323.  
  2324. 522
  2325. 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:51,714
  2326. Damn fool hurt me bad.
  2327.  
  2328. 523
  2329. 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,079
  2330. But he still the daddy of my kids.
  2331.  
  2332. 524
  2333. 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,616
  2334. And I really don't know
  2335. what I'm supposed to tell them
  2336.  
  2337. 525
  2338. 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,678
  2339. about staying out of trouble
  2340. when you can be in your own house
  2341.  
  2342. 526
  2343. 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,798
  2344. minding your own business,
  2345. surrounded by your entire family
  2346.  
  2347. 527
  2348. 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,872
  2349. and they still going to put
  2350. some murder on you.
  2351.  
  2352. 528
  2353. 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:11,710
  2354. That's right.
  2355.  
  2356. 529
  2357. 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:12,880
  2358. It's not just Dad.
  2359.  
  2360. 530
  2361. 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,271
  2362. We feel like they put us all
  2363. on death row, too.
  2364.  
  2365. 531
  2366. 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:19,390
  2367. Baby...
  2368.  
  2369. 532
  2370. 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,389
  2371. I can only imagine
  2372. the pain that you're going through.
  2373.  
  2374. 533
  2375. 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:25,720
  2376. But I'm gonna do everything I can.
  2377.  
  2378. 534
  2379. 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,031
  2380. The last lawyer was talking
  2381. just as big as you.
  2382.  
  2383. 535
  2384. 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:29,176
  2385. John...
  2386.  
  2387. 536
  2388. 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,351
  2389. Then they took all our money and split.
  2390.  
  2391. 537
  2392. 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:33,315
  2393. Why you different?
  2394.  
  2395. 538
  2396. 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:39,359
  2397. Well, our organization will cover
  2398. all legal fees,
  2399.  
  2400. 539
  2401. 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,433
  2402. so none of you
  2403. will ever have to pay a penny.
  2404.  
  2405. 540
  2406. 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,200
  2407. Now, it's clear to me that this trial
  2408. was constructed with lies...
  2409.  
  2410. 541
  2411. 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,836
  2412. and based off everything that I've seen,
  2413.  
  2414. 542
  2415. 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,640
  2416. I think we could build a case
  2417. strong enough to bring Johnny D. home.
  2418.  
  2419. 543
  2420. 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,749
  2421. And I'm not gonna stop
  2422. until I've done that.
  2423.  
  2424. 544
  2425. 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,752
  2426. Well, you seem like good people to me.
  2427.  
  2428. 545
  2429. 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,917
  2430. But Johnny D.'s the one
  2431. you gonna have to convince.
  2432.  
  2433. 546
  2434. 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,356
  2435. I don't know about the rest of y'all,
  2436.  
  2437. 547
  2438. 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,473
  2439. but I was sold on,
  2440. "Y'all won't pay a penny."
  2441.  
  2442. 548
  2443. 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:21,796
  2444. Amen.
  2445.  
  2446. 549
  2447. 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:29,834
  2448. Mr. Stevenson?
  2449.  
  2450. 550
  2451. 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:30,990
  2452. Call me Bryan.
  2453.  
  2454. 551
  2455. 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:33,150
  2456. Okay.
  2457.  
  2458. 552
  2459. 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,354
  2460. This is my friend, Darnell.
  2461.  
  2462. 553
  2463. 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,520
  2464. He has something
  2465. he wants to talk to you about.
  2466.  
  2467. 554
  2468. 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:43,320
  2469. Go on.
  2470.  
  2471. 555
  2472. 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:47,753
  2473. I think I can prove he's innocent.
  2474.  
  2475. 556
  2476. 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:51,640
  2477. You heard of Bill Hooks, right?
  2478.  
  2479. 557
  2480. 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:53,840
  2481. Yeah.
  2482.  
  2483. 558
  2484. 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,560
  2485. He testified
  2486. that he saw Johnny D.'s truck
  2487.  
  2488. 559
  2489. 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:56,800
  2490. at the cleaners that morning.
  2491.  
  2492. 560
  2493. 00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:58,596
  2494. Bill didn't see shit.
  2495.  
  2496. 561
  2497. 00:38:59,720 --> 00:39:00,915
  2498. He made the whole thing up.
  2499.  
  2500. 562
  2501. 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,320
  2502. How do you know that?
  2503.  
  2504. 563
  2505. 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,279
  2506. 'Cause I was with him.
  2507. We was working at the shop together.
  2508.  
  2509. 564
  2510. 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,192
  2511. - The morning of the murder?
  2512. - Yes, sir.
  2513.  
  2514. 565
  2515. 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,351
  2516. We was fixing the head gasket
  2517. on the Camaro
  2518.  
  2519. 566
  2520. 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,911
  2521. from 8:00 in the morning
  2522. till right after we closed for lunch.
  2523.  
  2524. 567
  2525. 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,036
  2526. He was right next to me
  2527. when them sirens was going off.
  2528.  
  2529. 568
  2530. 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:23,360
  2531. Why would he lie?
  2532.  
  2533. 569
  2534. 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,478
  2535. 'Cause the snitch
  2536. cut a deal with the cops.
  2537.  
  2538. 570
  2539. 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:27,776
  2540. They had him locked up for burglary,
  2541.  
  2542. 571
  2543. 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,996
  2544. and the day he give his statement,
  2545. he walk out free.
  2546.  
  2547. 572
  2548. 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:31,275
  2549. All charges dropped.
  2550.  
  2551. 573
  2552. 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,760
  2553. We told one of the other lawyers,
  2554. and they ain't do nothing about it.
  2555.  
  2556. 574
  2557. 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:36,315
  2558. Hmm.
  2559.  
  2560. 575
  2561. 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,640
  2562. Would you be willing to sign a statement
  2563. we could use in court?
  2564.  
  2565. 576
  2566. 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,319
  2567. Police will see my name?
  2568.  
  2569. 577
  2570. 00:39:49,240 --> 00:39:50,515
  2571. It'd be on the record.
  2572.  
  2573. 578
  2574. 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:57,240
  2575. Darnell, exposing yourself like this
  2576. is not easy.
  2577.  
  2578. 579
  2579. 00:39:58,600 --> 00:39:59,875
  2580. But with your testimony,
  2581.  
  2582. 580
  2583. 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,560
  2584. we can file a motion
  2585. to reopen Johnny D.'s case.
  2586.  
  2587. 581
  2588. 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,149
  2589. Darnell...
  2590.  
  2591. 582
  2592. 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:08,880
  2593. we need you.
  2594.  
  2595. 583
  2596. 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:15,280
  2597. Okay, yeah.
  2598.  
  2599. 584
  2600. 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:16,953
  2601. Okay.
  2602.  
  2603. 585
  2604. 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:18,395
  2605. Yeah, that'll do it.
  2606.  
  2607. 586
  2608. 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:20,556
  2609. All right.
  2610.  
  2611. 587
  2612. 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:38,760
  2613. Good morning.
  2614.  
  2615. 588
  2616. 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:40,636
  2617. Good morning.
  2618.  
  2619. 589
  2620. 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:42,994
  2621. Thanks for seeing me again.
  2622.  
  2623. 590
  2624. 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:44,150
  2625. Mmm-hmm.
  2626.  
  2627. 591
  2628. 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,357
  2629. I know the last time we met,
  2630. things didn't go quite the way I was...
  2631.  
  2632. 592
  2633. 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,511
  2634. I can't believe you met my family.
  2635.  
  2636. 593
  2637. 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,832
  2638. Drove down that dirt road,
  2639. crammed up in that little house,
  2640.  
  2641. 594
  2642. 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,992
  2643. talked to all my people,
  2644. say you gonna try to fight for me.
  2645.  
  2646. 595
  2647. 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:06,549
  2648. That mean a lot.
  2649.  
  2650. 596
  2651. 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:10,759
  2652. It meant a lot to me, too.
  2653.  
  2654. 597
  2655. 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:14,274
  2656. Oh, uh...
  2657.  
  2658. 598
  2659. 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,876
  2660. Minnie wanted me to give this to you.
  2661.  
  2662. 599
  2663. 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,234
  2664. And if you don't mind,
  2665. I have something I wanna show you.
  2666.  
  2667. 600
  2668. 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,120
  2669. It's a statement from Darnell Houston...
  2670.  
  2671. 601
  2672. 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:31,673
  2673. saying that he was with Bill Hooks
  2674.  
  2675. 602
  2676. 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,871
  2677. three miles away
  2678. at the time of the murder.
  2679.  
  2680. 603
  2681. 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,236
  2682. So, there's no way he could have seen
  2683. your truck there.
  2684.  
  2685. 604
  2686. 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,240
  2687. That's good, right?
  2688.  
  2689. 605
  2690. 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:39,595
  2691. That's very good.
  2692.  
  2693. 606
  2694. 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,835
  2695. I'm gonna submit this
  2696. with a motion for a new trial.
  2697.  
  2698. 607
  2699. 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,670
  2700. I know you talked to Minnie.
  2701. She told you what I did to her.
  2702.  
  2703. 608
  2704. 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,536
  2705. I ain't got no excuse for cheating
  2706. on a woman good as that one,
  2707.  
  2708. 609
  2709. 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,040
  2710. good as she been to me.
  2711.  
  2712. 610
  2713. 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:03,793
  2714. I don't know why she's standing by me.
  2715.  
  2716. 611
  2717. 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,719
  2718. She's standing by you because she knows
  2719. you shouldn't be in here.
  2720.  
  2721. 612
  2722. 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,234
  2723. And so do I.
  2724.  
  2725. 613
  2726. 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,192
  2727. I know you didn't kill Ronda Morrison.
  2728.  
  2729. 614
  2730. 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,440
  2731. And I can help you prove that in court
  2732. if you'll let me.
  2733.  
  2734. 615
  2735. 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,951
  2736. You know, you done met my whole family.
  2737. You know everything about 'em.
  2738.  
  2739. 616
  2740. 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,073
  2741. I don't know nothing about you, though.
  2742.  
  2743. 617
  2744. 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:34,936
  2745. - What would you like to know?
  2746. - I wanna know it all.
  2747.  
  2748. 618
  2749. 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,759
  2750. Like why you... Why you doing this?
  2751.  
  2752. 619
  2753. 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,354
  2754. - Why am I a lawyer?
  2755. - No, no, no.
  2756.  
  2757. 620
  2758. 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,193
  2759. Why is you a lawyer down here in Alabama
  2760.  
  2761. 621
  2762. 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,920
  2763. taking these cases
  2764. that ain't nobody gonna pay you for?
  2765.  
  2766. 622
  2767. 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,397
  2768. I grew up down a road just like yours.
  2769.  
  2770. 623
  2771. 00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:01,673
  2772. I played soccer in a dirt field
  2773. with the pigs and chickens.
  2774.  
  2775. 624
  2776. 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,193
  2777. Used to pump sewage from my yard.
  2778.  
  2779. 625
  2780. 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:14,198
  2781. When I was a teenager, my grandfather
  2782. was murdered over a black-and-white TV.
  2783.  
  2784. 626
  2785. 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,435
  2786. We kept waiting for someone
  2787. to show up to help.
  2788.  
  2789. 627
  2790. 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:23,320
  2791. They never did.
  2792.  
  2793. 628
  2794. 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:30,157
  2795. And that's when I realized that,
  2796. outside my community, nobody cared.
  2797.  
  2798. 629
  2799. 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,392
  2800. 'Cause to them, he's just another
  2801. black man killed in the projects.
  2802.  
  2803. 630
  2804. 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:41,919
  2805. I know what it's like to be
  2806. in the shadows.
  2807.  
  2808. 631
  2809. 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:46,480
  2810. That's why I'm doing this.
  2811.  
  2812. 632
  2813. 00:43:50,720 --> 00:43:52,200
  2814. That's a pretty good reason.
  2815.  
  2816. 633
  2817. 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:03,035
  2818. Okay.
  2819.  
  2820. 634
  2821. 00:44:05,720 --> 00:44:06,870
  2822. Okay...
  2823.  
  2824. 635
  2825. 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:10,715
  2826. Let's get to work.
  2827.  
  2828. 636
  2829. 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:15,310
  2830. Okay.
  2831.  
  2832. 637
  2833. 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,556
  2834. - Hey, yo, Johnny D.?
  2835. - Mmm-hmm.
  2836.  
  2837. 638
  2838. 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,037
  2839. You signing up with that lawyer?
  2840.  
  2841. 639
  2842. 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:38,918
  2843. I'm gonna give him a try.
  2844.  
  2845. 640
  2846. 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,390
  2847. Seem like everybody on the row
  2848. working with him now.
  2849.  
  2850. 641
  2851. 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:43,914
  2852. I'm starting to feel left out.
  2853.  
  2854. 642
  2855. 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:46,953
  2856. Is he really that good?
  2857.  
  2858. 643
  2859. 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:50,110
  2860. I hope so.
  2861.  
  2862. 644
  2863. 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:52,359
  2864. What you think, Herbert?
  2865.  
  2866. 645
  2867. 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,716
  2868. Should I just dump my guy
  2869. and make the switch over?
  2870.  
  2871. 646
  2872. 00:44:58,440 --> 00:44:59,669
  2873. Herb, you hear me?
  2874.  
  2875. 647
  2876. 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:01,870
  2877. You there?
  2878.  
  2879. 648
  2880. 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:05,036
  2881. I'm here.
  2882.  
  2883. 649
  2884. 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:08,150
  2885. Herb, you okay?
  2886.  
  2887. 650
  2888. 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,876
  2889. They set my date.
  2890.  
  2891. 651
  2892. 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:25,856
  2893. Look here, Herb,
  2894. don't you worry about nothing now.
  2895.  
  2896. 652
  2897. 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:27,951
  2898. Everything gonna be a'ight. Okay?
  2899.  
  2900. 653
  2901. 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,793
  2902. Ain't nothing over yet.
  2903. You got Bryan working for you now.
  2904.  
  2905. 654
  2906. 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,199
  2907. I ain't like you guys.
  2908.  
  2909. 655
  2910. 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,911
  2911. I deserve what's coming.
  2912.  
  2913. 656
  2914. 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:40,957
  2915. All right, now, see, Herb...
  2916.  
  2917. 657
  2918. 00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:43,559
  2919. there you go talking out your ass.
  2920.  
  2921. 658
  2922. 00:45:45,240 --> 00:45:47,038
  2923. Now, you fought for this country.
  2924.  
  2925. 659
  2926. 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,351
  2927. And they threw you in the bag
  2928. like the trash.
  2929.  
  2930. 660
  2931. 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,516
  2932. That war made you sick
  2933. in your head, man.
  2934.  
  2935. 661
  2936. 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,239
  2937. You supposed to be in the hospital.
  2938.  
  2939. 662
  2940. 00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:59,156
  2941. Not here.
  2942.  
  2943. 663
  2944. 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,950
  2945. When I told the cops that stopped me
  2946. I was innocent,
  2947.  
  2948. 664
  2949. 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:08,479
  2950. do you know what they said?
  2951.  
  2952. 665
  2953. 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:12,314
  2954. "One of you niggers did it...
  2955.  
  2956. 666
  2957. 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:17,395
  2958. and if it wasn't you,
  2959. then you taking one for your homie."
  2960.  
  2961. 667
  2962. 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:24,115
  2963. Johnny D. prosecutor say he know
  2964. he killed the girl
  2965.  
  2966. 668
  2967. 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,476
  2968. because of the way he looked
  2969. in his mug shot.
  2970.  
  2971. 669
  2972. 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,119
  2973. You don't deserve this shit
  2974. more than any of us, Herb.
  2975.  
  2976. 670
  2977. 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,149
  2978. A girl is dead because of me.
  2979.  
  2980. 671
  2981. 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,916
  2982. That don't give nobody the right
  2983. to kill you back.
  2984.  
  2985. 672
  2986. 00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,555
  2987. <i>Herbert was 18
  2988. when he went to Vietnam.</i>
  2989.  
  2990. 673
  2991. 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:54,031
  2992. He was the only survivor in an ambush
  2993. that killed his whole platoon.
  2994.  
  2995. 674
  2996. 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,991
  2997. After that, he had a mental breakdown,
  2998. attempted suicide,
  2999.  
  3000. 675
  3001. 00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:59,958
  3002. and was sent home
  3003. on an honorable discharge.
  3004.  
  3005. 676
  3006. 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:04,833
  3007. Back at home, he continued to suffer
  3008. from nightmares, crying fits...
  3009.  
  3010. 677
  3011. 00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,913
  3012. running out of his house,
  3013. screaming "incoming" to his neighbors.
  3014.  
  3015. 678
  3016. 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:10,800
  3017. His lawyer didn't even mention
  3018. military service
  3019.  
  3020. 679
  3021. 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:12,593
  3022. or mental trauma to the jury.
  3023.  
  3024. 680
  3025. 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,912
  3026. A few months after the trial,
  3027. he was disbarred for misconduct.
  3028.  
  3029. 681
  3030. 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:17,116
  3031. 'Course he was.
  3032.  
  3033. 682
  3034. 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,194
  3035. Okay, what can we do?
  3036.  
  3037. 683
  3038. 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,236
  3039. Well, since he's already been through
  3040. the appeals process,
  3041.  
  3042. 684
  3043. 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,671
  3044. the statute of limitations is gonna
  3045. make it hard for a judge to listen.
  3046.  
  3047. 685
  3048. 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,600
  3049. We're gonna have to try and make him.
  3050.  
  3051. 686
  3052. 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:35,753
  3053. I'll get started on the motion tonight.
  3054.  
  3055. 687
  3056. 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:37,240
  3057. - Hello?
  3058. - Okay.
  3059.  
  3060. 688
  3061. 00:47:38,720 --> 00:47:40,234
  3062. It's for you, Mom.
  3063.  
  3064. 689
  3065. 00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,880
  3066. Oh, thank you, sweetie. Hello?
  3067.  
  3068. 690
  3069. 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,920
  3070. <i>You the bitch
  3071. working for that nigger lawyer?</i>
  3072.  
  3073. 691
  3074. 00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:48,200
  3075. Who the hell is this?
  3076.  
  3077. 692
  3078. 00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:49,953
  3079. <i>The guy who put the bomb
  3080. under your house</i>
  3081.  
  3082. 693
  3083. 00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:51,554
  3084. <i>gonna blow your family all to hell</i>
  3085.  
  3086. 694
  3087. 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,195
  3088. <i>if you don't stop working
  3089. for that nigger Johnny D.</i>
  3090.  
  3091. 695
  3092. 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,080
  3093. Everybody, out of the house.
  3094.  
  3095. 696
  3096. 00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:58,913
  3097. - What's going on?
  3098. - I'll tell you outside.
  3099.  
  3100. 697
  3101. 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:18,714
  3102. They didn't find anything.
  3103.  
  3104. 698
  3105. 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:21,190
  3106. And they're sure?
  3107.  
  3108. 699
  3109. 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:23,673
  3110. They said they're sure.
  3111.  
  3112. 700
  3113. 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:25,376
  3114. They checked the basement, too,
  3115. like you said?
  3116.  
  3117. 701
  3118. 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,520
  3119. - Said they checked the basement.
  3120. - Okay.
  3121.  
  3122. 702
  3123. 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,280
  3124. All right,
  3125. we're gonna move on now.
  3126.  
  3127. 703
  3128. 00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:36,877
  3129. Okay, baby, let's get you to bed.
  3130.  
  3131. 704
  3132. 00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:38,876
  3133. Yo, come on.
  3134.  
  3135. 705
  3136. 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,270
  3137. When you asked me
  3138. to do this thing with you...
  3139.  
  3140. 706
  3141. 00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,439
  3142. I knew that I'd lose some friends.
  3143.  
  3144. 707
  3145. 00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:01,515
  3146. Have people talk shit behind my back,
  3147. or to my face.
  3148.  
  3149. 708
  3150. 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:05,720
  3151. I don't need people to like me,
  3152.  
  3153. 709
  3154. 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,598
  3155. as long as I'm doing
  3156. what I'm supposed to do.
  3157.  
  3158. 710
  3159. 00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:13,953
  3160. But threatening my family...
  3161.  
  3162. 711
  3163. 00:49:18,720 --> 00:49:22,999
  3164. Eva, you know I'd never blame you
  3165. if you needed to stop.
  3166.  
  3167. 712
  3168. 00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:28,839
  3169. I don't want my son growing up knowing
  3170.  
  3171. 713
  3172. 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,560
  3173. that his mom stopped doing
  3174. what was right
  3175.  
  3176. 714
  3177. 00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,235
  3178. just because she was scared
  3179. of some crazy bigot.
  3180.  
  3181. 715
  3182. 00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:41,710
  3183. Okay?
  3184.  
  3185. 716
  3186. 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,233
  3187. What are we gonna do about McMillian?
  3188.  
  3189. 717
  3190. 00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:50,958
  3191. We start the investigation from scratch.
  3192.  
  3193. 718
  3194. 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,757
  3195. Find anyone in town
  3196. who's willing to talk.
  3197.  
  3198. 719
  3199. 00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:01,480
  3200. Maybe people will stop trying to kill us
  3201. once they realize how charming we are.
  3202.  
  3203. 720
  3204. 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:12,997
  3205. I just wanted to ask you
  3206. a couple questions
  3207.  
  3208. 721
  3209. 00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:14,753
  3210. about the Ronda Morrison murder.
  3211.  
  3212. 722
  3213. 00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:16,993
  3214. Uh, it's just...
  3215.  
  3216. 723
  3217. 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:18,896
  3218. You were on the witness list
  3219.  
  3220. 724
  3221. 00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:20,416
  3222. for the Ronda Morrison trial
  3223. a few years back.
  3224.  
  3225. 725
  3226. 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,636
  3227. Sorry. Can't help you with that.
  3228.  
  3229. 726
  3230. 00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,776
  3231. Is there anything, anything at all
  3232. that you feel comfortable talking...
  3233.  
  3234. 727
  3235. 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:27,800
  3236. You know, look,
  3237.  
  3238. 728
  3239. 00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,196
  3240. if you are not working
  3241. for that poor girl's family
  3242.  
  3243. 729
  3244. 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:31,736
  3245. then I ain't got nothing to say to you.
  3246.  
  3247. 730
  3248. 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:33,114
  3249. Sorry, sweetie.
  3250.  
  3251. 731
  3252. 00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:36,236
  3253. Officer Ikner?
  3254.  
  3255. 732
  3256. 00:50:37,720 --> 00:50:39,200
  3257. I ain't no officer no more.
  3258.  
  3259. 733
  3260. 00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,551
  3261. I'm a lawyer representing
  3262. Johnny D. McMillian.
  3263.  
  3264. 734
  3265. 00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,596
  3266. I understand you were the first officer
  3267. on the scene.
  3268.  
  3269. 735
  3270. 00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:52,760
  3271. <i>I was right.</i>
  3272.  
  3273. 736
  3274. 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,480
  3275. The fish fry
  3276. was on Saturday, November 1st.
  3277.  
  3278. 737
  3279. 00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:56,994
  3280. The same day as the murder.
  3281.  
  3282. 738
  3283. 00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:58,434
  3284. They put these up all over town.
  3285.  
  3286. 739
  3287. 00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,796
  3288. I could kiss you, Deb.
  3289.  
  3290. 740
  3291. 00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:09,936
  3292. <i>We're planning to grow this
  3293. into something</i>
  3294.  
  3295. 741
  3296. 00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:11,917
  3297. <i>the whole country will be talking about.</i>
  3298.  
  3299. 742
  3300. 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,799
  3301. And you can say
  3302. that it all started in your building.
  3303.  
  3304. 743
  3305. 00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,520
  3306. What exactly kind of work do you do?
  3307.  
  3308. 744
  3309. 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:21,520
  3310. We're just helping people.
  3311.  
  3312. 745
  3313. 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:29,576
  3314. - It looks good.
  3315. - It's perfect.
  3316.  
  3317. 746
  3318. 00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,176
  3319. My client, Herbert Richardson,
  3320. was recommended for a Medal of Valor
  3321.  
  3322. 747
  3323. 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:33,793
  3324. for disarming a bomb in Vietnam.
  3325.  
  3326. 748
  3327. 00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,793
  3328. We got a tip that a few
  3329. of your employees could back his alibi.
  3330.  
  3331. 749
  3332. 00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:38,473
  3333. Vivian Clark was one of the teenagers
  3334.  
  3335. 750
  3336. 00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,472
  3337. who were sexually abused
  3338. at your facility.
  3339.  
  3340. 751
  3341. 00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:41,560
  3342. No, I'm not an attorney,
  3343.  
  3344. 752
  3345. 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,439
  3346. but I promise you,
  3347. your son is in very good hands.
  3348.  
  3349. 753
  3350. 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:48,110
  3351. We'll let you know.
  3352.  
  3353. 754
  3354. 00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,556
  3355. - Yeah, very soon.
  3356. - Good talking to you.
  3357.  
  3358. 755
  3359. 00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:54,952
  3360. Equal Justice Initiative.
  3361. This is Brenda.
  3362.  
  3363. 756
  3364. 00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,277
  3365. Yeah. Okay. Yes. Uh-huh.
  3366. Just one moment.
  3367.  
  3368. 757
  3369. 00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:01,115
  3370. Darnell Houston.
  3371.  
  3372. 758
  3373. 00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:05,434
  3374. Hello, Darnell?
  3375.  
  3376. 759
  3377. 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,273
  3378. Whoa. Whoa, whoa.
  3379. Slow down, slow down, slow down.
  3380.  
  3381. 760
  3382. 00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:12,556
  3383. Where are you?
  3384.  
  3385. 761
  3386. 00:52:15,240 --> 00:52:17,914
  3387. - Are you okay?
  3388. - No, sir, I'm not.
  3389.  
  3390. 762
  3391. 00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,393
  3392. Okay, Darnell,
  3393. let's go talk in the car. Okay?
  3394.  
  3395. 763
  3396. 00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,235
  3397. How in the hell
  3398. they locking me up for perjury
  3399.  
  3400. 764
  3401. 00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,357
  3402. if alls I did was say the truth? Hmm?
  3403.  
  3404. 765
  3405. 00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:34,956
  3406. I knew I shouldn't have
  3407. signed that paper, man.
  3408.  
  3409. 766
  3410. 00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:36,256
  3411. Shouldn't have listened to you.
  3412.  
  3413. 767
  3414. 00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,476
  3415. No. What they did to you
  3416. was completely illegal.
  3417.  
  3418. 768
  3419. 00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,216
  3420. Okay? Now, I'm gonna talk to the DA
  3421. and get all these charges dismissed.
  3422.  
  3423. 769
  3424. 00:52:41,240 --> 00:52:42,799
  3425. This will never happen again.
  3426.  
  3427. 770
  3428. 00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:44,314
  3429. Well, how the hell do you know?
  3430.  
  3431. 771
  3432. 00:52:45,240 --> 00:52:46,799
  3433. You can't control these guys.
  3434.  
  3435. 772
  3436. 00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,036
  3437. They arrested me
  3438. in the middle of my shift,
  3439.  
  3440. 773
  3441. 00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,032
  3442. in front of my boss.
  3443.  
  3444. 774
  3445. 00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,430
  3446. I don't even know
  3447. if I got a job tomorrow.
  3448.  
  3449. 775
  3450. 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,635
  3451. I feel bad,
  3452. what they doing to Johnny D...
  3453.  
  3454. 776
  3455. 00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,233
  3456. but I'm just trying to survive.
  3457.  
  3458. 777
  3459. 00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,233
  3460. I can't fight these guys, man.
  3461.  
  3462. 778
  3463. 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,032
  3464. Go on and find somebody else.
  3465.  
  3466. 779
  3467. 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:18,033
  3468. Listen, Darnell.
  3469. Think about Johnny D., okay?
  3470.  
  3471. 780
  3472. 00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:20,559
  3473. Think about his family. They need you.
  3474.  
  3475. 781
  3476. 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:22,959
  3477. Give me some time to work on this.
  3478.  
  3479. 782
  3480. 00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:32,554
  3481. That's my ride.
  3482.  
  3483. 783
  3484. 00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:35,833
  3485. Tell Johnny D. I'm sorry.
  3486.  
  3487. 784
  3488. 00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:11,914
  3489. I need to speak with you.
  3490.  
  3491. 785
  3492. 00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,637
  3493. Oh, hey, Bryan.
  3494.  
  3495. 786
  3496. 00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:18,400
  3497. Have you met Sheriff Tate?
  3498.  
  3499. 787
  3500. 00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:23,353
  3501. Who ordered the arrest of my witness?
  3502.  
  3503. 788
  3504. 00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,993
  3505. When people make false statements
  3506. concerning this case,
  3507.  
  3508. 789
  3509. 00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:28,673
  3510. they're gonna be held accountable.
  3511.  
  3512. 790
  3513. 00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:30,016
  3514. You can't arrest someone for perjury
  3515.  
  3516. 791
  3517. 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,350
  3518. without evidence
  3519. that a false statement has been made.
  3520.  
  3521. 792
  3522. 00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,160
  3523. Hang on. Are you representing
  3524. Mr. Houston now, too?
  3525.  
  3526. 793
  3527. 00:54:35,240 --> 00:54:36,310
  3528. Yes, I am.
  3529.  
  3530. 794
  3531. 00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,960
  3532. His statement contradicts
  3533. Bill Hooks' entire testimony.
  3534.  
  3535. 795
  3536. 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,430
  3537. Hooks ain't the state's main witness.
  3538. Ralph Myers is.
  3539.  
  3540. 796
  3541. 00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,796
  3542. Alabama Code 12-21-222
  3543.  
  3544. 797
  3545. 00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,475
  3546. requires corroboration
  3547. of accomplice testimony.
  3548.  
  3549. 798
  3550. 00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,075
  3551. So, without Hooks,
  3552. the conviction wouldn't be valid.
  3553.  
  3554. 799
  3555. 00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:55,397
  3556. You know, I went down to see
  3557. Ronda Morrison's momma yesterday.
  3558.  
  3559. 800
  3560. 00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:57,840
  3561. And she's in tears.
  3562.  
  3563. 801
  3564. 00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:01,231
  3565. She kept asking me
  3566. why some lawyer from up north
  3567.  
  3568. 802
  3569. 00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,478
  3570. would come down here and make them
  3571. relive all this hell again.
  3572.  
  3573. 803
  3574. 00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,839
  3575. Well, you can tell her it's because
  3576. Johnny D. didn't kill her daughter.
  3577.  
  3578. 804
  3579. 00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,196
  3580. And whoever did
  3581. is still out there somewhere.
  3582.  
  3583. 805
  3584. 00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:12,430
  3585. Hmm.
  3586.  
  3587. 806
  3588. 00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:17,349
  3589. I know how desperate you must be
  3590.  
  3591. 807
  3592. 00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,274
  3593. to fulfill your fantasy
  3594. of who we are down here.
  3595.  
  3596. 808
  3597. 00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,996
  3598. Just a bunch of corrupt Southern racists
  3599. framing niggers for murder.
  3600.  
  3601. 809
  3602. 00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:27,633
  3603. And you here to save the day.
  3604.  
  3605. 810
  3606. 00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:30,957
  3607. Well, hell, you can believe that
  3608. if you want to,
  3609.  
  3610. 811
  3611. 00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:33,951
  3612. but I know
  3613. that Johnny D. killed that girl,
  3614.  
  3615. 812
  3616. 00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:35,315
  3617. and he's gonna answer for it.
  3618.  
  3619. 813
  3620. 00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,799
  3621. And how do you know that?
  3622. You have no hard evidence.
  3623.  
  3624. 814
  3625. 00:55:39,720 --> 00:55:42,110
  3626. You based your entire case
  3627. on the word of an indicted felon
  3628.  
  3629. 815
  3630. 00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,376
  3631. who had every incentive
  3632. to tell you what you wanted to hear.
  3633.  
  3634. 816
  3635. 00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,596
  3636. Ralph Myers testified on his own accord.
  3637.  
  3638. 817
  3639. 00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:47,875
  3640. And it made no sense.
  3641.  
  3642. 818
  3643. 00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,395
  3644. He couldn't finish a sentence
  3645. without contradicting himself.
  3646.  
  3647. 819
  3648. 00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,516
  3649. Now, the charges against Darnell Houston
  3650. are baseless.
  3651.  
  3652. 820
  3653. 00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:55,880
  3654. They'll never stand up in court.
  3655.  
  3656. 821
  3657. 00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:58,519
  3658. They should be dropped immediately.
  3659.  
  3660. 822
  3661. 00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:04,475
  3662. Okay.
  3663.  
  3664. 823
  3665. 00:56:06,720 --> 00:56:08,040
  3666. Is that okay with you, Tommy?
  3667.  
  3668. 824
  3669. 00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:09,636
  3670. Sure.
  3671.  
  3672. 825
  3673. 00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,033
  3674. Well, it doesn't really matter
  3675.  
  3676. 826
  3677. 00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,271
  3678. now the court denied your motion
  3679. to reopen the case.
  3680.  
  3681. 827
  3682. 00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:17,110
  3683. Wait, what was that?
  3684.  
  3685. 828
  3686. 00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:19,877
  3687. Oh, you didn't get the order?
  3688.  
  3689. 829
  3690. 00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:22,479
  3691. Well, the judge is down in Mobile now,
  3692.  
  3693. 830
  3694. 00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:24,677
  3695. so, you know,
  3696. sometimes they have mail issues.
  3697.  
  3698. 831
  3699. 00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:27,553
  3700. Listen, you can tell Mr. Houston
  3701.  
  3702. 832
  3703. 00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:29,096
  3704. the charges against him
  3705. are being dropped.
  3706.  
  3707. 833
  3708. 00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:30,216
  3709. I can do that much for y'all
  3710.  
  3711. 834
  3712. 00:56:30,240 --> 00:56:32,550
  3713. but anything else
  3714. will have to be raised on appeal.
  3715.  
  3716. 835
  3717. 00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:41,559
  3718. Thanks for stopping by, Counselor.
  3719.  
  3720. 836
  3721. 00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:54,756
  3722. <i>I want to see my mother</i>
  3723.  
  3724. 837
  3725. 00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,071
  3726. <i>All I want</i>
  3727.  
  3728. 838
  3729. 00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,391
  3730. <i>Whoa</i>
  3731.  
  3732. 839
  3733. 00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,035
  3734. <i>To see my mother</i>
  3735.  
  3736. 840
  3737. 00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,231
  3738. <i>Child, I want</i>
  3739.  
  3740. 841
  3741. 00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,634
  3742. <i>To see my mother</i>
  3743.  
  3744. 842
  3745. 00:57:09,720 --> 00:57:14,078
  3746. <i>I'm going home to live...</i>
  3747.  
  3748. 843
  3749. 00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:25,240
  3750. Something wrong, Officer?
  3751.  
  3752. 844
  3753. 00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:26,595
  3754. Step out of the vehicle.
  3755.  
  3756. 845
  3757. 00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,075
  3758. I don't understand. I wasn't speeding.
  3759.  
  3760. 846
  3761. 00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:32,114
  3762. I said step out of the vehicle.
  3763.  
  3764. 847
  3765. 00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:34,590
  3766. I'll get out of the car,
  3767.  
  3768. 848
  3769. 00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:36,712
  3770. but first can you tell me
  3771. why you stopped me?
  3772.  
  3773. 849
  3774. 00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:39,536
  3775. - Get out of the goddamn car!
  3776. - Whoa!
  3777.  
  3778. 850
  3779. 00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:41,597
  3780. Whoa, whoa. Okay, okay. Hold on.
  3781.  
  3782. 851
  3783. 00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:43,000
  3784. - Come on!
  3785. - Okay.
  3786.  
  3787. 852
  3788. 00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:44,673
  3789. Okay. I'm taking off my seat belt.
  3790.  
  3791. 853
  3792. 00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:46,911
  3793. - Get it! Come on!
  3794. - Okay. I'm opening up the door.
  3795.  
  3796. 854
  3797. 00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:48,096
  3798. - I'm stepping out.
  3799. - Faster! Come on!
  3800.  
  3801. 855
  3802. 00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,112
  3803. - Okay. I have nothing in my hands.
  3804. - Turn around!
  3805.  
  3806. 856
  3807. 00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,078
  3808. - Yes. Okay. Okay.
  3809. - Hands on the car!
  3810.  
  3811. 857
  3812. 00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:01,711
  3813. You don't have to have the gun
  3814. pointed at me.
  3815.  
  3816. 858
  3817. 00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:05,555
  3818. - I'm not a threat.
  3819. - Shut your damn mouth, boy.
  3820.  
  3821. 859
  3822. 00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:06,720
  3823. Hey, brother...
  3824.  
  3825. 860
  3826. 00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,878
  3827. you ought to be careful with your words
  3828. when you got a gun at your head.
  3829.  
  3830. 861
  3831. 00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:16,470
  3832. Let's go, John.
  3833.  
  3834. 862
  3835. 00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:27,120
  3836. Why did you stop me?
  3837.  
  3838. 863
  3839. 00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:28,475
  3840. We're letting you go.
  3841.  
  3842. 864
  3843. 00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:31,435
  3844. You should be happy.
  3845.  
  3846. 865
  3847. 00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:01,595
  3848. Even if they drop them charges,
  3849.  
  3850. 866
  3851. 00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,673
  3852. Darnell ain't gonna testify
  3853. after what they done done to him.
  3854.  
  3855. 867
  3856. 00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,309
  3857. I know we took a big hit. We did.
  3858.  
  3859. 868
  3860. 00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,176
  3861. But we just need to gather more evidence
  3862. for another motion.
  3863.  
  3864. 869
  3865. 00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,016
  3866. No, no. They gonna block it.
  3867. They gonna block it.
  3868.  
  3869. 870
  3870. 00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:16,431
  3871. If they can put me on the row for a year
  3872. without no trial,
  3873.  
  3874. 871
  3875. 00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:17,954
  3876. they can do whatever they wanna do.
  3877.  
  3878. 872
  3879. 00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,351
  3880. They put you on death row
  3881. before your trial?
  3882.  
  3883. 873
  3884. 00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:22,840
  3885. Yeah.
  3886.  
  3887. 874
  3888. 00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:24,513
  3889. Sheriff drove me himself.
  3890.  
  3891. 875
  3892. 00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:28,276
  3893. Said, "I'm gonna give you a little taste
  3894. of what it's like unless you confess."
  3895.  
  3896. 876
  3897. 00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:31,296
  3898. Why are you just now telling me this?
  3899.  
  3900. 877
  3901. 00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:32,754
  3902. This is how it is down here.
  3903.  
  3904. 878
  3905. 00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:36,792
  3906. Been like this long as I can remember.
  3907.  
  3908. 879
  3909. 00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:46,798
  3910. They messing with you, ain't they?
  3911.  
  3912. 880
  3913. 00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,792
  3914. Yeah, they are.
  3915. They're not making it easy on me.
  3916.  
  3917. 881
  3918. 00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:58,600
  3919. I got a plan for you, though.
  3920.  
  3921. 882
  3922. 00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:00,916
  3923. I'm all ears.
  3924.  
  3925. 883
  3926. 01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:03,696
  3927. This what I think we should do.
  3928.  
  3929. 884
  3930. 01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,872
  3931. I think you should train up
  3932. another lawyer
  3933.  
  3934. 885
  3935. 01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,600
  3936. 'cause I'm gonna need somebody
  3937. just in case they take you out.
  3938.  
  3939. 886
  3940. 01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:14,154
  3941. Oh, it's like that?
  3942.  
  3943. 887
  3944. 01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:17,278
  3945. Like that. It's like that.
  3946.  
  3947. 888
  3948. 01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:18,919
  3949. Thought I had a friend.
  3950.  
  3951. 889
  3952. 01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:20,116
  3953. Ain't no friends in here.
  3954.  
  3955. 890
  3956. 01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:21,600
  3957. - Cold world.
  3958. - Yeah.
  3959.  
  3960. 891
  3961. 01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:26,874
  3962. So, we ain't got Darnell.
  3963.  
  3964. 892
  3965. 01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:30,070
  3966. What's the next move?
  3967.  
  3968. 893
  3969. 01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:36,518
  3970. I think we should talk to Ralph Myers.
  3971.  
  3972. 894
  3973. 01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:41,880
  3974. - Walter...
  3975. - No.
  3976.  
  3977. 895
  3978. 01:00:41,881 --> 01:00:43,281
  3979. Just listen to me for a second.
  3980.  
  3981. 896
  3982. 01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:46,878
  3983. I know it's risky,
  3984.  
  3985. 897
  3986. 01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:48,880
  3987. but the only way to find out
  3988. what he really knows
  3989.  
  3990. 898
  3991. 01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:50,474
  3992. is for me to get him talking.
  3993.  
  3994. 899
  3995. 01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:53,080
  3996. I know what he know.
  3997.  
  3998. 900
  3999. 01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:57,519
  4000. You know what that man did to me?
  4001.  
  4002. 901
  4003. 01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:01,040
  4004. Took my life away from me...
  4005.  
  4006. 902
  4007. 01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:04,109
  4008. to save his own ass.
  4009.  
  4010. 903
  4011. 01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:07,798
  4012. All he gonna give you is lies.
  4013.  
  4014. 904
  4015. 01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:11,638
  4016. I promise I'm gonna be careful.
  4017.  
  4018. 905
  4019. 01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:22,000
  4020. Get in line.
  4021.  
  4022. 906
  4023. 01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:42,000
  4024. Mr. Myers.
  4025.  
  4026. 907
  4027. 01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:44,429
  4028. You Bobby?
  4029.  
  4030. 908
  4031. 01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:46,829
  4032. I'm Bryan.
  4033.  
  4034. 909
  4035. 01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:49,356
  4036. Maybe later.
  4037.  
  4038. 910
  4039. 01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:52,597
  4040. Okay. Do you wanna sit down?
  4041.  
  4042. 911
  4043. 01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:55,993
  4044. You gonna buy me a Coke first?
  4045.  
  4046. 912
  4047. 01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:59,194
  4048. Or you gonna make me stare
  4049. at them vending machines all day?
  4050.  
  4051. 913
  4052. 01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:02,479
  4053. Sure. What do you want?
  4054.  
  4055. 914
  4056. 01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:04,754
  4057. Sunkist orange.
  4058.  
  4059. 915
  4060. 01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:06,509
  4061. Okay.
  4062.  
  4063. 916
  4064. 01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:08,398
  4065. And some Jujyfruits, if they got 'em.
  4066.  
  4067. 917
  4068. 01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:14,756
  4069. I just want to say
  4070. thanks for meeting me, Mr. Myers.
  4071.  
  4072. 918
  4073. 01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,393
  4074. Can we start by talking about
  4075. your testimony against Johnny D.?
  4076.  
  4077. 919
  4078. 01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:30,675
  4079. No.
  4080.  
  4081. 920
  4082. 01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:33,440
  4083. I ain't talking about him.
  4084.  
  4085. 921
  4086. 01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:36,592
  4087. That's the only reason why I'm here.
  4088.  
  4089. 922
  4090. 01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:38,239
  4091. You don't like it, leave.
  4092.  
  4093. 923
  4094. 01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:43,360
  4095. Aw, don't look so sad.
  4096. We can talk about other things.
  4097.  
  4098. 924
  4099. 01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:44,590
  4100. I love to talk.
  4101.  
  4102. 925
  4103. 01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:47,670
  4104. My wife says if I got paid
  4105. for every word I said,
  4106.  
  4107. 926
  4108. 01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:49,717
  4109. we'd be a couple of billionaires by now.
  4110.  
  4111. 927
  4112. 01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:53,910
  4113. Oh, yeah?
  4114.  
  4115. 928
  4116. 01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:56,193
  4117. How long you been married?
  4118.  
  4119. 929
  4120. 01:02:56,280 --> 01:03:00,433
  4121. Long enough to pop out a couple of kids
  4122. and watch her turn 'em all against me.
  4123.  
  4124. 930
  4125. 01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:01,749
  4126. You got kids?
  4127.  
  4128. 931
  4129. 01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:03,155
  4130. Me? No.
  4131.  
  4132. 932
  4133. 01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:05,480
  4134. But Johnny D. does.
  4135.  
  4136. 933
  4137. 01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:08,480
  4138. Yeah.
  4139.  
  4140. 934
  4141. 01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:11,678
  4142. The thing about kids is
  4143. they ain't nothing like having a dog.
  4144.  
  4145. 935
  4146. 01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:13,389
  4147. It's a totally different deal.
  4148.  
  4149. 936
  4150. 01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:15,711
  4151. I wish somebody had told me that
  4152. in the first place.
  4153.  
  4154. 937
  4155. 01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:19,674
  4156. And my kids,
  4157. they think they got it so bad.
  4158.  
  4159. 938
  4160. 01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:22,119
  4161. They ain't seen nothing like I seen.
  4162.  
  4163. 939
  4164. 01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:25,640
  4165. Try making it as a foster kid
  4166. your whole life.
  4167.  
  4168. 940
  4169. 01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:27,440
  4170. As soon as you figure out
  4171. one shitty parent,
  4172.  
  4173. 941
  4174. 01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:29,000
  4175. they moving you to a new one.
  4176.  
  4177. 942
  4178. 01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:33,555
  4179. Uh...
  4180.  
  4181. 943
  4182. 01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:35,280
  4183. I'm sorry.
  4184.  
  4185. 944
  4186. 01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:37,434
  4187. I'm sure that wasn't easy.
  4188.  
  4189. 945
  4190. 01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:44,680
  4191. How many kids he got?
  4192.  
  4193. 946
  4194. 01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:48,274
  4195. Johnny D. has three.
  4196.  
  4197. 947
  4198. 01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:54,400
  4199. Mr. Myers, I know you
  4200. made a deal with the state.
  4201.  
  4202. 948
  4203. 01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:58,033
  4204. But I don't think they told you
  4205. Johnny D. was gonna die because of it.
  4206.  
  4207. 949
  4208. 01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:01,632
  4209. That must not be an easy thing to carry.
  4210.  
  4211. 950
  4212. 01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:05,799
  4213. And I'm hoping there's a part of you
  4214. that wants to make things right.
  4215.  
  4216. 951
  4217. 01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:12,631
  4218. Can we please talk about your testimony?
  4219.  
  4220. 952
  4221. 01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:20,120
  4222. Hey. Hey!
  4223.  
  4224. 953
  4225. 01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:31,720
  4226. From the day they moved my ass
  4227. into Escambia...
  4228.  
  4229. 954
  4230. 01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:34,914
  4231. for something I'm telling you
  4232. I ain't had nothing to do with,
  4233.  
  4234. 955
  4235. 01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,832
  4236. all them police wanted to talk about
  4237. was Ronda Morrison.
  4238.  
  4239. 956
  4240. 01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:40,991
  4241. It was Morrison this, Morrison that.
  4242.  
  4243. 957
  4244. 01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:43,754
  4245. Sometimes four or five of 'em
  4246. in the room at the same time.
  4247.  
  4248. 958
  4249. 01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:48,159
  4250. They were questioning you about her
  4251. the day you were arrested?
  4252.  
  4253. 959
  4254. 01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:52,360
  4255. Alls I'm saying is...
  4256.  
  4257. 960
  4258. 01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:57,075
  4259. ain't nobody cared about a damn thing
  4260. besides who killed that girl.
  4261.  
  4262. 961
  4263. 01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:59,038
  4264. And when people care
  4265. about a thing that much,
  4266.  
  4267. 962
  4268. 01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:01,112
  4269. they'll do anything
  4270. to get what they want.
  4271.  
  4272. 963
  4273. 01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:05,880
  4274. You know they'll kill you
  4275. if you get to the bottom of this, right?
  4276.  
  4277. 964
  4278. 01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:08,879
  4279. Wait. Where are you going?
  4280.  
  4281. 965
  4282. 01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:10,679
  4283. We done here, Bobby.
  4284.  
  4285. 966
  4286. 01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:12,359
  4287. Thanks for the Jujys.
  4288.  
  4289. 967
  4290. 01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:15,035
  4291. Ready, boss.
  4292.  
  4293. 968
  4294. 01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:20,856
  4295. <i>Myers said he was questioned
  4296. about Ronda Morrison</i>
  4297.  
  4298. 969
  4299. 01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:22,758
  4300. the day he was arrested, on June 3rd.
  4301.  
  4302. 970
  4303. 01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:24,496
  4304. But the only statement
  4305. they presented in court
  4306.  
  4307. 971
  4308. 01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:26,989
  4309. <i>was recorded almost two months later.</i>
  4310.  
  4311. 972
  4312. 01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:29,390
  4313. Do you think they're hiding
  4314. his first statement somewhere?
  4315.  
  4316. 973
  4317. 01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:32,600
  4318. If they are, it might be
  4319. at the Escambia courthouse
  4320.  
  4321. 974
  4322. 01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:34,120
  4323. with the files from his other case.
  4324.  
  4325. 975
  4326. 01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:35,674
  4327. <i>You know anyone over there?</i>
  4328.  
  4329. 976
  4330. 01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:37,789
  4331. I do.
  4332.  
  4333. 977
  4334. 01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:44,157
  4335. That's everything we got on Myers.
  4336.  
  4337. 978
  4338. 01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:45,480
  4339. You can make copies over there.
  4340.  
  4341. 979
  4342. 01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:47,592
  4343. - Thank you, ma'am.
  4344. - Sure, baby.
  4345.  
  4346. 980
  4347. 01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:52,077
  4348. He's cute. Married?
  4349.  
  4350. 981
  4351. 01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:54,311
  4352. Married to his work.
  4353.  
  4354. 982
  4355. 01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:55,720
  4356. How's Uncle Mickey doing?
  4357.  
  4358. 983
  4359. 01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:05,280
  4360. Miss Miller.
  4361.  
  4362. 984
  4363. 01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:07,669
  4364. Can I take a copy of these?
  4365.  
  4366. 985
  4367. 01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:10,672
  4368. They ain't paying me enough to stop you.
  4369.  
  4370. 986
  4371. 01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:27,034
  4372. Did you find the transcript
  4373. from Myers' first statement?
  4374.  
  4375. 987
  4376. 01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:30,277
  4377. - Yeah.
  4378. - Thank you.
  4379.  
  4380. 988
  4381. 01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:38,120
  4382. What?
  4383.  
  4384. 989
  4385. 01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:48,016
  4386. <i>I understand that, Sheriff.</i>
  4387.  
  4388. 990
  4389. 01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:49,156
  4390. That's Myers.
  4391.  
  4392. 991
  4393. 01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:50,800
  4394. <i>And that's what I'm trying to tell you.</i>
  4395.  
  4396. 992
  4397. 01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:54,794
  4398. <i>Because, I'm gonna be honest with ya,
  4399. I don't know a damn thing.</i>
  4400.  
  4401. 993
  4402. 01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:57,016
  4403. <i>Is that right?</i>
  4404.  
  4405. 994
  4406. 01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:58,235
  4407. And that's Tate.
  4408.  
  4409. 995
  4410. 01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:00,960
  4411. <i>Yes, sir. It's righter
  4412. than anything I've ever said.</i>
  4413.  
  4414. 996
  4415. 01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:04,080
  4416. <i>And you would take
  4417. a polygraph test</i>
  4418.  
  4419. 997
  4420. 01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:06,954
  4421. <i>to the fact that you do not know
  4422. who killed Ronda Morrison?</i>
  4423.  
  4424. 998
  4425. 01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:08,474
  4426. <i>That's right, sir. I will.</i>
  4427.  
  4428. 999
  4429. 01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:10,976
  4430. <i>Would you face the person</i>
  4431.  
  4432. 1000
  4433. 01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:12,296
  4434. <i>who came in here
  4435. and testified that you...</i>
  4436.  
  4437. 1001
  4438. 01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:15,313
  4439. <i>I will face any damn body
  4440. in this world on that</i>
  4441.  
  4442. 1002
  4443. 01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:17,392
  4444. <i>because it's a stone lie.</i>
  4445.  
  4446. 1003
  4447. 01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:20,917
  4448. <i>And if you asking me to frame
  4449. an innocent man for murder,</i>
  4450.  
  4451. 1004
  4452. 01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:23,071
  4453. <i>well, thatjust ain't something
  4454. I'm willing to do.</i>
  4455.  
  4456. 1005
  4457. 01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:28,190
  4458. Holy shit.
  4459.  
  4460. 1006
  4461. 01:07:58,400 --> 01:07:59,800
  4462. Herb, you all right over there?
  4463.  
  4464. 1007
  4465. 01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:04,000
  4466. - Hmm?
  4467. - No.
  4468.  
  4469. 1008
  4470. 01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:08,875
  4471. Now, listen here, you gonna have to get
  4472. your mind off tomorrow.
  4473.  
  4474. 1009
  4475. 01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:11,995
  4476. Bryan is working on that as we speak.
  4477.  
  4478. 1010
  4479. 01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:15,353
  4480. Now, you know how these courts here is.
  4481.  
  4482. 1011
  4483. 01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:18,672
  4484. They wait till the last minute,
  4485. but you gonna get that stay.
  4486.  
  4487. 1012
  4488. 01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:22,037
  4489. Why did I make that bomb?
  4490.  
  4491. 1013
  4492. 01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:24,273
  4493. Herb, don't go there now.
  4494.  
  4495. 1014
  4496. 01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:25,680
  4497. Why'd I do that?
  4498.  
  4499. 1015
  4500. 01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:28,878
  4501. I wasn't trying to hurt nobody.
  4502.  
  4503. 1016
  4504. 01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:30,195
  4505. Herb, I know.
  4506.  
  4507. 1017
  4508. 01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:34,475
  4509. Why am I so stupid?
  4510.  
  4511. 1018
  4512. 01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:36,478
  4513. No, no, you ain't stupid.
  4514.  
  4515. 1019
  4516. 01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:39,635
  4517. That war got you sick,
  4518. and you still sick.
  4519.  
  4520. 1020
  4521. 01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:42,476
  4522. Girl wasn't supposed
  4523. to come by and pick it up.
  4524.  
  4525. 1021
  4526. 01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:45,871
  4527. Listen, Herb. I want you to...
  4528.  
  4529. 1022
  4530. 01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:47,872
  4531. She wasn't supposed to come by
  4532. and pick it up.
  4533.  
  4534. 1023
  4535. 01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:50,873
  4536. This what we gonna do, Herb.
  4537. We gonna slow your mind down.
  4538.  
  4539. 1024
  4540. 01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:53,714
  4541. Remember what we practiced now.
  4542. What we do?
  4543.  
  4544. 1025
  4545. 01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:57,871
  4546. - Deep breaths.
  4547. - Yeah. Yeah.
  4548.  
  4549. 1026
  4550. 01:08:57,960 --> 01:08:59,120
  4551. Come on, do that with me now.
  4552.  
  4553. 1027
  4554. 01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:01,837
  4555. Deep breaths.
  4556.  
  4557. 1028
  4558. 01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:05,949
  4559. In and out.
  4560.  
  4561. 1029
  4562. 01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:11,835
  4563. Now in.
  4564.  
  4565. 1030
  4566. 01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:15,634
  4567. Now close your eyes.
  4568.  
  4569. 1031
  4570. 01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:18,714
  4571. Get away from all this.
  4572.  
  4573. 1032
  4574. 01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:22,154
  4575. No more walls.
  4576.  
  4577. 1033
  4578. 01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:24,400
  4579. No more guards.
  4580.  
  4581. 1034
  4582. 01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:27,919
  4583. No more wars to fight.
  4584.  
  4585. 1035
  4586. 01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:32,160
  4587. Just you, out in the open.
  4588.  
  4589. 1036
  4590. 01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:35,393
  4591. Fresh air on your face.
  4592.  
  4593. 1037
  4594. 01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:43,959
  4595. <i>Look at them pine trees.</i>
  4596.  
  4597. 1038
  4598. 01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:48,751
  4599. <i>They've been growing
  4600. since 'fore we was born.</i>
  4601.  
  4602. 1039
  4603. 01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:54,673
  4604. <i>And they gonna keep growing
  4605. even after we gone.</i>
  4606.  
  4607. 1040
  4608. 01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:00,918
  4609. <i>And they done been through the same shit
  4610. we done been through.</i>
  4611.  
  4612. 1041
  4613. 01:10:04,440 --> 01:10:06,830
  4614. <i>But they still dancing in the breeze.</i>
  4615.  
  4616. 1042
  4617. 01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:17,875
  4618. Can you see 'em?
  4619.  
  4620. 1043
  4621. 01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:21,755
  4622. Yeah.
  4623.  
  4624. 1044
  4625. 01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:23,676
  4626. Good.
  4627.  
  4628. 1045
  4629. 01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:27,712
  4630. Now I want you to think
  4631. about nothing else.
  4632.  
  4633. 1046
  4634. 01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:29,714
  4635. Just keep your mind on that.
  4636.  
  4637. 1047
  4638. 01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:32,758
  4639. And everything gonna be a'ight.
  4640.  
  4641. 1048
  4642. 01:10:50,480 --> 01:10:52,199
  4643. I need <i>Strickland v. Washington,</i>
  4644.  
  4645. 1049
  4646. 01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:54,033
  4647. and the affidavit
  4648. from Herbert's sergeant.
  4649.  
  4650. 1050
  4651. 01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:11,309
  4652. Let's send it.
  4653.  
  4654. 1051
  4655. 01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:19,920
  4656. Now what?
  4657.  
  4658. 1052
  4659. 01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:24,115
  4660. We wait.
  4661.  
  4662. 1053
  4663. 01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:46,752
  4664. EJI. This is Bryan Stevenson.
  4665.  
  4666. 1054
  4667. 01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:48,160
  4668. <i>Mr. Stevenson,</i>
  4669.  
  4670. 1055
  4671. 01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:52,832
  4672. <i>the court has just entered an order
  4673. in case number 895395.</i>
  4674.  
  4675. 1056
  4676. 01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:54,718
  4677. <i>The motion for a stay of execution</i>
  4678.  
  4679. 1057
  4680. 01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:57,679
  4681. <i>and petition for writ of certiorari
  4682. have been denied.</i>
  4683.  
  4684. 1058
  4685. 01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:00,954
  4686. <i>We'll fax copies of the order
  4687. over to your office shortly.</i>
  4688.  
  4689. 1059
  4690. 01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:05,192
  4691. - Thank you.
  4692. <i>- Thank you.</i>
  4693.  
  4694. 1060
  4695. 01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:22,480
  4696. He asked me to be there.
  4697.  
  4698. 1061
  4699. 01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:26,670
  4700. Okay.
  4701.  
  4702. 1062
  4703. 01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:29,035
  4704. I'll drive you, then.
  4705.  
  4706. 1063
  4707. 01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:44,715
  4708. Come on, Herbert. We gotta go.
  4709.  
  4710. 1064
  4711. 01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:10,074
  4712. Can I say bye to my friends?
  4713.  
  4714. 1065
  4715. 01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:28,312
  4716. When it get too much for you...
  4717.  
  4718. 1066
  4719. 01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:32,152
  4720. you take them deep breaths.
  4721.  
  4722. 1067
  4723. 01:13:33,440 --> 01:13:35,079
  4724. Let your mind go.
  4725.  
  4726. 1068
  4727. 01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:41,798
  4728. Wish I didn't have to do this alone.
  4729.  
  4730. 1069
  4731. 01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:46,033
  4732. You ain't by yourself, Herbert.
  4733.  
  4734. 1070
  4735. 01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:49,354
  4736. We all with you.
  4737.  
  4738. 1071
  4739. 01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:53,279
  4740. Ain't that right, Ray?
  4741.  
  4742. 1072
  4743. 01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:58,517
  4744. That's right, Herb.
  4745. You ain't rid of us yet.
  4746.  
  4747. 1073
  4748. 01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:06,197
  4749. You've been a good friend.
  4750.  
  4751. 1074
  4752. 01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:52,120
  4753. First time in the chamber, huh?
  4754.  
  4755. 1075
  4756. 01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:55,036
  4757. Yeah.
  4758.  
  4759. 1076
  4760. 01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:57,919
  4761. Don't think too much.
  4762. You'll lose your shit.
  4763.  
  4764. 1077
  4765. 01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:12,077
  4766. Need anything, Mr. Richardson?
  4767.  
  4768. 1078
  4769. 01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:16,152
  4770. You still gonna play my song?
  4771.  
  4772. 1079
  4773. 01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:18,239
  4774. Got it cued up and ready.
  4775.  
  4776. 1080
  4777. 01:15:20,480 --> 01:15:21,709
  4778. Thank you.
  4779.  
  4780. 1081
  4781. 01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:36,832
  4782. It's been a strange day.
  4783.  
  4784. 1082
  4785. 01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:43,117
  4786. More people asked
  4787. how they can help me today
  4788.  
  4789. 1083
  4790. 01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:45,431
  4791. than ever asked in my whole life.
  4792.  
  4793. 1084
  4794. 01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:54,313
  4795. Do I look funny?
  4796.  
  4797. 1085
  4798. 01:15:56,640 --> 01:16:01,192
  4799. I ain't know they were gonna
  4800. shave off everything.
  4801.  
  4802. 1086
  4803. 01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:05,000
  4804. You look fine.
  4805.  
  4806. 1087
  4807. 01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:22,476
  4808. Well, most people
  4809. don't get to sit and think all day...
  4810.  
  4811. 1088
  4812. 01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:25,071
  4813. about it being their last day alive.
  4814.  
  4815. 1089
  4816. 01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:29,558
  4817. It's different than Nam.
  4818.  
  4819. 1090
  4820. 01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:33,078
  4821. Least I had a chance there.
  4822.  
  4823. 1091
  4824. 01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:41,640
  4825. I'm sorry.
  4826.  
  4827. 1092
  4828. 01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:50,720
  4829. You the only one cared enough
  4830. to fight for me.
  4831.  
  4832. 1093
  4833. 01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:59,032
  4834. Since I don't have family,
  4835.  
  4836. 1094
  4837. 01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:02,397
  4838. I told the army to send my flag to you,
  4839. if that's okay.
  4840.  
  4841. 1095
  4842. 01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:09,554
  4843. I'd be honored.
  4844.  
  4845. 1096
  4846. 01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:21,036
  4847. Can you pray with me?
  4848.  
  4849. 1097
  4850. 01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:25,994
  4851. Of course.
  4852.  
  4853. 1098
  4854. 01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:37,636
  4855. They're ready.
  4856.  
  4857. 1099
  4858. 01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:49,955
  4859. <i>On a hill far away</i>
  4860.  
  4861. 1100
  4862. 01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:55,237
  4863. <i>Stood an old rugged cross</i>
  4864.  
  4865. 1101
  4866. 01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:59,915
  4867. <i>The emblem of suffering and shame</i>
  4868.  
  4869. 1102
  4870. 01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:05,915
  4871. <i>And I love that old cross</i>
  4872.  
  4873. 1103
  4874. 01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:09,471
  4875. <i>Where the dearest and best</i>
  4876.  
  4877. 1104
  4878. 01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:15,952
  4879. <i>For a world of lost sinners was slain</i>
  4880.  
  4881. 1105
  4882. 01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:21,791
  4883. <i>And I'll cherish</i>
  4884.  
  4885. 1106
  4886. 01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:25,954
  4887. <i>The old rugged cross</i>
  4888.  
  4889. 1107
  4890. 01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:29,877
  4891. <i>Till my trophies at last I lay down</i>
  4892.  
  4893. 1108
  4894. 01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:31,758
  4895. You, Herbert Lee Richardson,
  4896.  
  4897. 1109
  4898. 01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:35,717
  4899. shall be put to death by electrocution
  4900. in the state of Alabama,
  4901.  
  4902. 1110
  4903. 01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:38,679
  4904. as ordered and decreed
  4905. by Judge Jerry M. White,
  4906.  
  4907. 1111
  4908. 01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:43,118
  4909. for the murder of Rena Mae Collins
  4910. on August the 16th, 1977.
  4911.  
  4912. 1112
  4913. 01:18:44,440 --> 01:18:45,590
  4914. So ordered.
  4915.  
  4916. 1113
  4917. 01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:47,909
  4918. Mr. Richardson...
  4919.  
  4920. 1114
  4921. 01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:50,916
  4922. do you have any final words
  4923. you'd like to say?
  4924.  
  4925. 1115
  4926. 01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:59,595
  4927. <i>Oh, that old rugged cross</i>
  4928.  
  4929. 1116
  4930. 01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:02,593
  4931. <i>So despised by the world</i>
  4932.  
  4933. 1117
  4934. 01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:06,230
  4935. I have no ill feeling.
  4936.  
  4937. 1118
  4938. 01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:10,793
  4939. And I hold nothing against anyone.
  4940.  
  4941. 1119
  4942. 01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:17,438
  4943. <i>So I'll cherish the old rugged cross</i>
  4944.  
  4945. 1120
  4946. 01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:20,320
  4947. <i>The old rugged cross</i>
  4948.  
  4949. 1121
  4950. 01:19:20,440 --> 01:19:25,117
  4951. <i>Till my trophies at last I lay down</i>
  4952.  
  4953. 1122
  4954. 01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:28,113
  4955. <i>I lay down</i>
  4956.  
  4957. 1123
  4958. 01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:34,794
  4959. <i>I will cling to the old rugged cross</i>
  4960.  
  4961. 1124
  4962. 01:19:36,440 --> 01:19:43,358
  4963. <i>And exchange it someday for a crown</i>
  4964.  
  4965. 1125
  4966. 01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:49,477
  4967. <i>To the old rugged cross</i>
  4968.  
  4969. 1126
  4970. 01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:53,636
  4971. <i>I will ever be true</i>
  4972.  
  4973. 1127
  4974. 01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:59,952
  4975. <i>Its shame and reproach gladly bear</i>
  4976.  
  4977. 1128
  4978. 01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:06,195
  4979. <i>Then he'll call me someday</i>
  4980.  
  4981. 1129
  4982. 01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:11,390
  4983. <i>To my home far away</i>
  4984.  
  4985. 1130
  4986. 01:20:11,480 --> 01:20:14,632
  4987. <i>Where his glory</i>
  4988.  
  4989. 1131
  4990. 01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:20,512
  4991. <i>Forever I'll share</i>
  4992.  
  4993. 1132
  4994. 01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:24,440
  4995. <i>So I'll cherish...</i>
  4996.  
  4997. 1133
  4998. 01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:27,479
  4999. We with you, Herbert! We all with you!
  5000.  
  5001. 1134
  5002. 01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:29,040
  5003. We love you, Herb!
  5004.  
  5005. 1135
  5006. 01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:30,474
  5007. We all with you, Herb.
  5008.  
  5009. 1136
  5010. 01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:32,040
  5011. I'm walking with you, Big Herb!
  5012.  
  5013. 1137
  5014. 01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:33,554
  5015. Believe in your heart, Herb.
  5016.  
  5017. 1138
  5018. 01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:35,034
  5019. We're with you, buddy!
  5020.  
  5021. 1139
  5022. 01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:36,156
  5023. Be strong, Herb!
  5024.  
  5025. 1140
  5026. 01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:46,720
  5027. <i>I will cling to the old rugged cross</i>
  5028.  
  5029. 1141
  5030. 01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:52,638
  5031. <i>And exchange it someday</i>
  5032.  
  5033. 1142
  5034. 01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:56,159
  5035. <i>For a crown</i>
  5036.  
  5037. 1143
  5038. 01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:57,833
  5039. We love you, Herb!
  5040.  
  5041. 1144
  5042. 01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:51,880
  5043. Hey.
  5044.  
  5045. 1145
  5046. 01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:09,436
  5047. I...
  5048.  
  5049. 1146
  5050. 01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:15,079
  5051. Well, I hope this important news
  5052. of yours comes with some food.
  5053.  
  5054. 1147
  5055. 01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:16,560
  5056. 'Cause I'm starving.
  5057.  
  5058. 1148
  5059. 01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:19,160
  5060. Sit down, Mr. Myers.
  5061.  
  5062. 1149
  5063. 01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:24,751
  5064. You was a lot nicer the last time.
  5065.  
  5066. 1150
  5067. 01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:32,792
  5068. I heard the recording of the first
  5069. statement you gave on June 3rd.
  5070.  
  5071. 1151
  5072. 01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:36,077
  5073. The one they didn't present in court.
  5074.  
  5075. 1152
  5076. 01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:40,596
  5077. You told the sheriff
  5078. you didn't know anything
  5079.  
  5080. 1153
  5081. 01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:42,637
  5082. about Johnny D. or the murder.
  5083.  
  5084. 1154
  5085. 01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:46,031
  5086. You told him you didn't want to frame
  5087. an innocent man.
  5088.  
  5089. 1155
  5090. 01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:47,840
  5091. Do you remember saying that?
  5092.  
  5093. 1156
  5094. 01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:50,915
  5095. Now, what I'm wondering is,
  5096.  
  5097. 1157
  5098. 01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:54,277
  5099. how do you go from knowing nothing
  5100. about a murder on June 3rd
  5101.  
  5102. 1158
  5103. 01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:57,273
  5104. to becoming the state's key witness
  5105. three months later?
  5106.  
  5107. 1159
  5108. 01:23:57,760 --> 01:23:59,319
  5109. What changed your mind?
  5110.  
  5111. 1160
  5112. 01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:13,555
  5113. What's that?
  5114.  
  5115. 1161
  5116. 01:24:14,480 --> 01:24:16,631
  5117. Intake log from Holman prison.
  5118.  
  5119. 1162
  5120. 01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:20,517
  5121. On August 1st, 1987,
  5122.  
  5123. 1163
  5124. 01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:23,035
  5125. Sheriff Tate transferred two inmates
  5126.  
  5127. 1164
  5128. 01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:26,553
  5129. from county jail to death row.
  5130.  
  5131. 1165
  5132. 01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:29,320
  5133. Johnny D...
  5134.  
  5135. 1166
  5136. 01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:34,389
  5137. ...and you.
  5138.  
  5139. 1167
  5140. 01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:42,920
  5141. Did they move you to death row
  5142.  
  5143. 1168
  5144. 01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:44,957
  5145. because you wouldn't
  5146. testify against him?
  5147.  
  5148. 1169
  5149. 01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:54,309
  5150. They executed Wayne Ritter a few weeks
  5151. after you got there, isn't that right?
  5152.  
  5153. 1170
  5154. 01:24:57,680 --> 01:24:58,909
  5155. I was in the witness room
  5156.  
  5157. 1171
  5158. 01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:01,560
  5159. when they killed Herbert Richardson
  5160. Thursday night.
  5161.  
  5162. 1172
  5163. 01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:07,956
  5164. And it was the most horrific thing
  5165. I've ever experienced.
  5166.  
  5167. 1173
  5168. 01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:14,957
  5169. I'm sure Ritter's execution
  5170. wasn't easy for you either.
  5171.  
  5172. 1174
  5173. 01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:35,997
  5174. They put me in the cell
  5175. closest to the kill room.
  5176.  
  5177. 1175
  5178. 01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:41,800
  5179. Middle of the night,
  5180. everybody started screaming,
  5181.  
  5182. 1176
  5183. 01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:43,520
  5184. banging on the bars.
  5185.  
  5186. 1177
  5187. 01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:46,430
  5188. And then...
  5189.  
  5190. 1178
  5191. 01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:53,992
  5192. Then came the smell of his skin burning.
  5193.  
  5194. 1179
  5195. 01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:02,319
  5196. I know that smell.
  5197.  
  5198. 1180
  5199. 01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:08,273
  5200. May I ask you what happened?
  5201.  
  5202. 1181
  5203. 01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:14,554
  5204. Seven years old.
  5205.  
  5206. 1182
  5207. 01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:20,790
  5208. I was sleeping in my foster mom's
  5209. basement when her heater blowed up.
  5210.  
  5211. 1183
  5212. 01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:23,472
  5213. Catched my pj's on fire.
  5214.  
  5215. 1184
  5216. 01:26:25,040 --> 01:26:27,874
  5217. I was screaming for two minutes straight
  5218. before they found me.
  5219.  
  5220. 1185
  5221. 01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:36,951
  5222. Everybody knowed
  5223. that I got a fear of being burned.
  5224.  
  5225. 1186
  5226. 01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:42,436
  5227. They knowed what it would do to my head
  5228. to be in a place like that.
  5229.  
  5230. 1187
  5231. 01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:48,032
  5232. I couldn't stop shaking all night.
  5233.  
  5234. 1188
  5235. 01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:51,357
  5236. Curled up on the floor like a baby.
  5237.  
  5238. 1189
  5239. 01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:55,400
  5240. Trying to breathe,
  5241. but every breath you take just...
  5242.  
  5243. 1190
  5244. 01:26:57,320 --> 01:27:00,119
  5245. You get another taste
  5246. of the man they killed.
  5247.  
  5248. 1191
  5249. 01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:06,275
  5250. You can't go through
  5251. something like that...
  5252.  
  5253. 1192
  5254. 01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:08,319
  5255. and come out the same.
  5256.  
  5257. 1193
  5258. 01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:14,836
  5259. I know.
  5260.  
  5261. 1194
  5262. 01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:22,153
  5263. I called that sheriff the next morning.
  5264.  
  5265. 1195
  5266. 01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:23,356
  5267. I told him...
  5268.  
  5269. 1196
  5270. 01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:27,636
  5271. I would say whatever he wanted
  5272. to get me out.
  5273.  
  5274. 1197
  5275. 01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:30,633
  5276. And he took my statement...
  5277.  
  5278. 1198
  5279. 01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:33,717
  5280. moved me to county the next day.
  5281.  
  5282. 1199
  5283. 01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:40,836
  5284. Mr. Myers, we're going to court
  5285. very soon
  5286.  
  5287. 1200
  5288. 01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:43,674
  5289. to try to get Johnny D.
  5290. the retrial he deserves.
  5291.  
  5292. 1201
  5293. 01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:46,118
  5294. And I'd like you to take the stand.
  5295.  
  5296. 1202
  5297. 01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:50,396
  5298. No.
  5299.  
  5300. 1203
  5301. 01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:53,352
  5302. No, sir. No, sir.
  5303.  
  5304. 1204
  5305. 01:27:53,480 --> 01:27:54,960
  5306. They are using you.
  5307.  
  5308. 1205
  5309. 01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:57,559
  5310. They're using you to condemn a man
  5311.  
  5312. 1206
  5313. 01:27:57,640 --> 01:27:59,836
  5314. that you have much more in common with
  5315. than you think.
  5316.  
  5317. 1207
  5318. 01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:03,496
  5319. And if there's any part of you
  5320. that wants to make things right,
  5321.  
  5322. 1208
  5323. 01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:05,830
  5324. this is the last chance
  5325. you're gonna get.
  5326.  
  5327. 1209
  5328. 01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:19,314
  5329. The tension is high this morning
  5330. here at the Baldwin County Courthouse,
  5331.  
  5332. 1210
  5333. 01:28:19,480 --> 01:28:22,279
  5334. <i>where a hearing is being held
  5335. to see if the man convicted</i>
  5336.  
  5337. 1211
  5338. 01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:25,711
  5339. <i>of killing Ronda Morrison
  5340. deserves a new trial.</i>
  5341.  
  5342. 1212
  5343. 01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:28,474
  5344. <i>Miss Morrison was only 18 years old</i>
  5345.  
  5346. 1213
  5347. 01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:32,395
  5348. <i>when she was murdered at Jackson
  5349. Cleaners in Monroeville, Alabama.</i>
  5350.  
  5351. 1214
  5352. 01:28:32,480 --> 01:28:37,760
  5353. <i>Many have taken the two-hour drive here
  5354. from Monroeville to show their support.</i>
  5355.  
  5356. 1215
  5357. 01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:40,315
  5358. <i>Extra security precautions
  5359. were implemented</i>
  5360.  
  5361. 1216
  5362. 01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:43,154
  5363. <i>due to the highly emotional nature
  5364. of this case.</i>
  5365.  
  5366. 1217
  5367. 01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:49,554
  5368. <i>Ronda Morrison's parents said
  5369. they have no doubt</i>
  5370.  
  5371. 1218
  5372. 01:28:49,640 --> 01:28:53,634
  5373. <i>Mr. McMillian is the man responsible
  5374. for the murder of their daughter,</i>
  5375.  
  5376. 1219
  5377. 01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:57,430
  5378. <i>but members of McMillian's family
  5379. claim they have the wrong man.</i>
  5380.  
  5381. 1220
  5382. 01:28:57,560 --> 01:29:01,440
  5383. <i>Much of today's hearing is hinging
  5384. on the testimony of Ralph Myers,</i>
  5385.  
  5386. 1221
  5387. 01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:03,830
  5388. <i>a convicted felon
  5389. who was the key witness</i>
  5390.  
  5391. 1222
  5392. 01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:06,276
  5393. <i>against McMillian in the original trial.</i>
  5394.  
  5395. 1223
  5396. 01:29:35,480 --> 01:29:39,679
  5397. What we'll be talking about today
  5398. is obviously an emotional issue.
  5399.  
  5400. 1224
  5401. 01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:42,960
  5402. And if any of y'all don't think
  5403. you can maintain
  5404.  
  5405. 1225
  5406. 01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:45,271
  5407. a reasonable degree of decorum...
  5408.  
  5409. 1226
  5410. 01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:47,951
  5411. then I would ask you to leave now.
  5412.  
  5413. 1227
  5414. 01:29:52,720 --> 01:29:56,236
  5415. All right, if we're ready, then,
  5416. we will proceed.
  5417.  
  5418. 1228
  5419. 01:29:58,080 --> 01:29:59,480
  5420. Mr. Stevenson.
  5421.  
  5422. 1229
  5423. 01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:01,720
  5424. Thank you, Your Honor.
  5425.  
  5426. 1230
  5427. 01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:14,832
  5428. The state's case
  5429. against Walter McMillian
  5430.  
  5431. 1231
  5432. 01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:17,230
  5433. turned entirely
  5434. on the testimony of Ralph Myers.
  5435.  
  5436. 1232
  5437. 01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:20,559
  5438. There was no other evidence
  5439. to establish Mr. McMillian's guilt.
  5440.  
  5441. 1233
  5442. 01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:23,309
  5443. No physical evidence
  5444. linking him to the crime.
  5445.  
  5446. 1234
  5447. 01:30:23,400 --> 01:30:25,357
  5448. No motive. No witnesses.
  5449.  
  5450. 1235
  5451. 01:30:25,480 --> 01:30:27,039
  5452. Only the word of one man.
  5453.  
  5454. 1236
  5455. 01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:31,637
  5456. We call Ralph Myers to the stand.
  5457.  
  5458. 1237
  5459. 01:30:56,960 --> 01:30:59,600
  5460. Sir, please stand
  5461. and place your right hand on the Bible.
  5462.  
  5463. 1238
  5464. 01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:04,256
  5465. You swear to tell the truth,
  5466. the whole truth,
  5467.  
  5468. 1239
  5469. 01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:06,351
  5470. and nothing but the truth,
  5471. so help you God?
  5472.  
  5473. 1240
  5474. 01:31:08,480 --> 01:31:09,550
  5475. Mr. Myers?
  5476.  
  5477. 1241
  5478. 01:31:10,280 --> 01:31:12,556
  5479. Oh, yes. Sorry.
  5480.  
  5481. 1242
  5482. 01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:16,397
  5483. The guards got me up about 2:00
  5484. in the morning to get me out here.
  5485.  
  5486. 1243
  5487. 01:31:29,200 --> 01:31:31,476
  5488. Mr. Myers, did you testify against
  5489. Walter McMillian
  5490.  
  5491. 1244
  5492. 01:31:31,560 --> 01:31:33,040
  5493. in August of 1988?
  5494.  
  5495. 1245
  5496. 01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:35,520
  5497. Is that when it was?
  5498.  
  5499. 1246
  5500. 01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:38,959
  5501. According to the record, yes.
  5502.  
  5503. 1247
  5504. 01:31:40,360 --> 01:31:42,636
  5505. Okay, then, sure. If you say so.
  5506.  
  5507. 1248
  5508. 01:31:46,440 --> 01:31:48,955
  5509. And what did you say to the jury
  5510. when you testified?
  5511.  
  5512. 1249
  5513. 01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:57,310
  5514. I don't think I can fully remember, sir,
  5515.  
  5516. 1250
  5517. 01:31:57,400 --> 01:31:59,915
  5518. to be honest with you. Sorry.
  5519.  
  5520. 1251
  5521. 01:32:01,520 --> 01:32:02,795
  5522. No, that's quite all right.
  5523.  
  5524. 1252
  5525. 01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:04,951
  5526. I have a transcript
  5527. of your testimony right here.
  5528.  
  5529. 1253
  5530. 01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:19,952
  5531. At the trial, do you remember testifying
  5532.  
  5533. 1254
  5534. 01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:22,430
  5535. that you were unwillingly
  5536. made part of a capital murder
  5537.  
  5538. 1255
  5539. 01:32:22,520 --> 01:32:25,035
  5540. and robbery on November 1st, 1986
  5541.  
  5542. 1256
  5543. 01:32:25,120 --> 01:32:27,396
  5544. when Walter McMillian
  5545. saw you at a car wash
  5546.  
  5547. 1257
  5548. 01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:29,751
  5549. and asked you to drive his truck
  5550. because his arm hurt?
  5551.  
  5552. 1258
  5553. 01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:32,994
  5554. Yes, sir, I guess so.
  5555.  
  5556. 1259
  5557. 01:32:33,800 --> 01:32:37,760
  5558. Do you remember saying that you drove
  5559. Mr. McMillian to Jackson Cleaners,
  5560.  
  5561. 1260
  5562. 01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:39,797
  5563. subsequently went into the building
  5564.  
  5565. 1261
  5566. 01:32:39,880 --> 01:32:41,872
  5567. and saw Mr. McMillian with a gun,
  5568.  
  5569. 1262
  5570. 01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:44,236
  5571. standing over the body
  5572. of Ronda Morrison?
  5573.  
  5574. 1263
  5575. 01:32:46,480 --> 01:32:47,596
  5576. Yes, sir.
  5577.  
  5578. 1264
  5579. 01:32:49,400 --> 01:32:51,756
  5580. Mr. Myers, was the testimony
  5581. that you gave
  5582.  
  5583. 1265
  5584. 01:32:51,840 --> 01:32:53,797
  5585. at Walter McMillian's trial true?
  5586.  
  5587. 1266
  5588. 01:33:04,280 --> 01:33:05,396
  5589. I don't know.
  5590.  
  5591. 1267
  5592. 01:33:08,800 --> 01:33:10,075
  5593. You don't know?
  5594.  
  5595. 1268
  5596. 01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:15,399
  5597. I don't think I remember.
  5598.  
  5599. 1269
  5600. 01:33:37,880 --> 01:33:42,079
  5601. Mr. Myers, do you know
  5602. who Walter McMillian is?
  5603.  
  5604. 1270
  5605. 01:33:44,440 --> 01:33:45,635
  5606. Yes, sir.
  5607.  
  5608. 1271
  5609. 01:33:47,200 --> 01:33:48,680
  5610. Is he in this room?
  5611.  
  5612. 1272
  5613. 01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:51,195
  5614. Yes, sir.
  5615.  
  5616. 1273
  5617. 01:33:55,560 --> 01:33:57,233
  5618. Could you point him out for us?
  5619.  
  5620. 1274
  5621. 01:34:21,080 --> 01:34:23,470
  5622. I'd like to ask you that question
  5623. one more time.
  5624.  
  5625. 1275
  5626. 01:34:24,600 --> 01:34:28,958
  5627. Was the testimony that you gave
  5628. at Walter McMillian's trial true?
  5629.  
  5630. 1276
  5631. 01:34:38,520 --> 01:34:40,716
  5632. No, sir. Not at all.
  5633.  
  5634. 1277
  5635. 01:34:41,880 --> 01:34:44,076
  5636. Order, please.
  5637.  
  5638. 1278
  5639. 01:34:44,240 --> 01:34:47,153
  5640. Did you see Mr. McMillian
  5641. on the day Ronda Morrison was murdered?
  5642.  
  5643. 1279
  5644. 01:34:47,560 --> 01:34:48,630
  5645. No, sir.
  5646.  
  5647. 1280
  5648. 01:34:48,720 --> 01:34:51,315
  5649. Did you drive his truck
  5650. to Monroeville that day?
  5651.  
  5652. 1281
  5653. 01:34:51,400 --> 01:34:52,959
  5654. No. Never did.
  5655.  
  5656. 1282
  5657. 01:34:53,080 --> 01:34:54,639
  5658. Did you go into Jackson Cleaners
  5659.  
  5660. 1283
  5661. 01:34:54,720 --> 01:34:58,111
  5662. and see Mr. McMillian standing
  5663. over the body of Ronda Morrison?
  5664.  
  5665. 1284
  5666. 01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:00,554
  5667. Absolutely not.
  5668.  
  5669. 1285
  5670. 01:35:05,040 --> 01:35:06,190
  5671. Thank you.
  5672.  
  5673. 1286
  5674. 01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:09,353
  5675. No further questions, Your Honor.
  5676.  
  5677. 1287
  5678. 01:35:15,080 --> 01:35:16,275
  5679. <i>Mr. Myers...</i>
  5680.  
  5681. 1288
  5682. 01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:21,160
  5683. how do we know
  5684. you ain't upset with the deal you got
  5685.  
  5686. 1289
  5687. 01:35:21,240 --> 01:35:22,959
  5688. and you feel like somehow by...
  5689.  
  5690. 1290
  5691. 01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:27,675
  5692. changing your story,
  5693. might help to get you out?
  5694.  
  5695. 1291
  5696. 01:35:29,640 --> 01:35:32,200
  5697. Because that just
  5698. don't make no sense, sir.
  5699.  
  5700. 1292
  5701. 01:35:33,440 --> 01:35:36,512
  5702. Who do you think is deciding
  5703. what happens to me?
  5704.  
  5705. 1293
  5706. 01:35:37,120 --> 01:35:38,395
  5707. If I live or die?
  5708.  
  5709. 1294
  5710. 01:35:39,360 --> 01:35:41,920
  5711. It ain't me. It ain't Johnny D.
  5712.  
  5713. 1295
  5714. 01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:44,515
  5715. It's all y'all
  5716. that's deciding that, so...
  5717.  
  5718. 1296
  5719. 01:35:44,600 --> 01:35:48,037
  5720. how's my saying what I'm saying
  5721. gonna help to get me out?
  5722.  
  5723. 1297
  5724. 01:35:48,120 --> 01:35:50,555
  5725. If anything,
  5726. it's gonna help get me to death row.
  5727.  
  5728. 1298
  5729. 01:35:52,760 --> 01:35:53,876
  5730. But I don't care.
  5731.  
  5732. 1299
  5733. 01:35:54,440 --> 01:35:56,432
  5734. Y'all can do what you want with me.
  5735.  
  5736. 1300
  5737. 01:35:57,360 --> 01:35:58,555
  5738. 'Cause me...
  5739.  
  5740. 1301
  5741. 01:35:59,360 --> 01:36:01,556
  5742. I can look in your face
  5743.  
  5744. 1302
  5745. 01:36:01,640 --> 01:36:04,997
  5746. or anybody else's face,
  5747. dead eye to eyeball
  5748.  
  5749. 1303
  5750. 01:36:05,080 --> 01:36:08,357
  5751. and say that anything I told
  5752. about Mr. McMillian...
  5753.  
  5754. 1304
  5755. 01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:11,554
  5756. was a lie.
  5757.  
  5758. 1305
  5759. 01:36:13,120 --> 01:36:14,679
  5760. He's here 'cause of me.
  5761.  
  5762. 1306
  5763. 01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:20,477
  5764. And I sure would appreciate
  5765. you sending him home
  5766.  
  5767. 1307
  5768. 01:36:20,560 --> 01:36:22,472
  5769. to his kids where he belongs.
  5770.  
  5771. 1308
  5772. 01:36:28,720 --> 01:36:30,160
  5773. We submit a copy of the official log
  5774.  
  5775. 1309
  5776. 01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:32,280
  5777. from the police officer
  5778. that stopped by the fish fry,
  5779.  
  5780. 1310
  5781. 01:36:32,320 --> 01:36:34,630
  5782. confirming Walter McMillian was there
  5783. with his family.
  5784.  
  5785. 1311
  5786. 01:36:35,440 --> 01:36:38,956
  5787. Mr. Myers said that the body was faceup
  5788. near the front counter.
  5789.  
  5790. 1312
  5791. 01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:43,316
  5792. But I found her facedown
  5793. in the back, by the bathroom.
  5794.  
  5795. 1313
  5796. 01:36:44,440 --> 01:36:46,955
  5797. Submitting exculpatory records
  5798. from Ralph Myers' stay
  5799.  
  5800. 1314
  5801. 01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:48,952
  5802. at the Taylor Hardin
  5803. psychiatric hospital.
  5804.  
  5805. 1315
  5806. 01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:51,919
  5807. Which the state did not disclose
  5808. to defense counsel.
  5809.  
  5810. 1316
  5811. 01:36:53,320 --> 01:36:55,312
  5812. <i>Mr. Myers was my patient
  5813. at the time,</i>
  5814.  
  5815. 1317
  5816. 01:36:55,400 --> 01:36:58,040
  5817. and he claimed on numerous occasions
  5818.  
  5819. 1318
  5820. 01:36:58,120 --> 01:37:00,430
  5821. that he was being threatened
  5822. with the electric chair
  5823.  
  5824. 1319
  5825. 01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:03,394
  5826. if he didn't say
  5827. what the authorities wanted to hear.
  5828.  
  5829. 1320
  5830. 01:37:03,880 --> 01:37:06,395
  5831. The prosecutor
  5832. asked me to testify
  5833.  
  5834. 1321
  5835. 01:37:06,480 --> 01:37:09,234
  5836. that she had been drugged
  5837. from the front to the back.
  5838.  
  5839. 1322
  5840. 01:37:09,560 --> 01:37:11,916
  5841. And I told him,
  5842. "I ain't gonna lie in court."
  5843.  
  5844. 1323
  5845. 01:37:13,200 --> 01:37:17,194
  5846. And then, well, a few weeks later,
  5847. I got fired from the department.
  5848.  
  5849. 1324
  5850. 01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:21,672
  5851. All of the evidence
  5852. presented today
  5853.  
  5854. 1325
  5855. 01:37:21,760 --> 01:37:23,877
  5856. would have been critical
  5857. to the outcome of this case.
  5858.  
  5859. 1326
  5860. 01:37:24,600 --> 01:37:27,798
  5861. And its exclusion is a clear violation
  5862. of <i>Brady v. Maryland</i>
  5863.  
  5864. 1327
  5865. 01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:30,031
  5866. and Mr. McMillian's
  5867. constitutional rights.
  5868.  
  5869. 1328
  5870. 01:37:30,960 --> 01:37:33,191
  5871. The truth has not been told
  5872. in this case.
  5873.  
  5874. 1329
  5875. 01:37:33,640 --> 01:37:35,916
  5876. And I understand a lot of time
  5877. has gone by...
  5878.  
  5879. 1330
  5880. 01:37:37,080 --> 01:37:39,720
  5881. but I personally believe
  5882. that it's never too late for justice.
  5883.  
  5884. 1331
  5885. 01:37:41,200 --> 01:37:44,671
  5886. We ask the court to grant our motion
  5887. and order a new trial for Mr. McMillian.
  5888.  
  5889. 1332
  5890. 01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:48,274
  5891. Thank you, Your Honor.
  5892.  
  5893. 1333
  5894. 01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:52,440
  5895. Thank you, Counselors.
  5896.  
  5897. 1334
  5898. 01:37:53,000 --> 01:37:54,354
  5899. We'll reconvene at a later date
  5900.  
  5901. 1335
  5902. 01:37:54,440 --> 01:37:56,557
  5903. once I've had time
  5904. to look through everything.
  5905.  
  5906. 1336
  5907. 01:37:57,920 --> 01:37:59,240
  5908. All rise.
  5909.  
  5910. 1337
  5911. 01:38:05,120 --> 01:38:07,696
  5912. Tell you the truth, I didn't think
  5913. he was gonna go through with it.
  5914.  
  5915. 1338
  5916. 01:38:07,720 --> 01:38:10,792
  5917. Honestly, for a second there,
  5918. I didn't think so either.
  5919.  
  5920. 1339
  5921. 01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:18,549
  5922. I can't even tell you
  5923. how I feel right now.
  5924.  
  5925. 1340
  5926. 01:38:21,520 --> 01:38:22,590
  5927. Thank you.
  5928.  
  5929. 1341
  5930. 01:38:32,960 --> 01:38:35,156
  5931. We got a few minutes
  5932. if y'all wanna say hi.
  5933.  
  5934. 1342
  5935. 01:38:44,200 --> 01:38:45,759
  5936. We leave in five minutes.
  5937.  
  5938. 1343
  5939. 01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:47,435
  5940. What's up, old man?
  5941.  
  5942. 1344
  5943. 01:38:48,240 --> 01:38:50,152
  5944. - You did great.
  5945. - Thank you.
  5946.  
  5947. 1345
  5948. 01:38:50,240 --> 01:38:52,596
  5949. Mmm-hmm. Chapman ought
  5950. to call you tonight
  5951.  
  5952. 1346
  5953. 01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:54,376
  5954. and tell you that
  5955. he's dropping all them charges.
  5956.  
  5957. 1347
  5958. 01:38:54,400 --> 01:38:55,880
  5959. Yeah, I wouldn't hold my breath.
  5960.  
  5961. 1348
  5962. 01:39:05,960 --> 01:39:08,191
  5963. <i>Upon the reading
  5964. of my decision,</i>
  5965.  
  5966. 1349
  5967. 01:39:08,280 --> 01:39:11,956
  5968. <i>I expect the rules of decorum
  5969. in this courtroom to be upheld.</i>
  5970.  
  5971. 1350
  5972. 01:39:16,400 --> 01:39:19,154
  5973. Ralph Myers took the stand
  5974. before this court,
  5975.  
  5976. 1351
  5977. 01:39:19,240 --> 01:39:20,879
  5978. swore to tell the truth,
  5979.  
  5980. 1352
  5981. 01:39:21,200 --> 01:39:22,998
  5982. and proceeded to recant most,
  5983.  
  5984. 1353
  5985. 01:39:23,080 --> 01:39:27,279
  5986. if not all of the relevant portions
  5987. of his testimony at trial.
  5988.  
  5989. 1354
  5990. 01:39:28,200 --> 01:39:31,238
  5991. Clearly, he has either
  5992. perjured himself at trial,
  5993.  
  5994. 1355
  5995. 01:39:31,360 --> 01:39:33,079
  5996. or in front of this court.
  5997.  
  5998. 1356
  5999. 01:39:34,520 --> 01:39:36,159
  6000. After careful review,
  6001.  
  6002. 1357
  6003. 01:39:36,280 --> 01:39:37,634
  6004. it is this court's opinion
  6005.  
  6006. 1358
  6007. 01:39:37,720 --> 01:39:40,952
  6008. that conclusive evidence
  6009. has not been provided
  6010.  
  6011. 1359
  6012. 01:39:41,040 --> 01:39:44,238
  6013. that Ralph Myers perjured himself
  6014. at the original trial
  6015.  
  6016. 1360
  6017. 01:39:44,760 --> 01:39:48,595
  6018. and that pressure put on him
  6019. since his trial testimony
  6020.  
  6021. 1361
  6022. 01:39:48,680 --> 01:39:51,400
  6023. could tend to discredit his recantation.
  6024.  
  6025. 1362
  6026. 01:39:52,600 --> 01:39:56,116
  6027. Therefore, it is ordered,
  6028. adjudged and decreed
  6029.  
  6030. 1363
  6031. 01:39:56,200 --> 01:39:58,510
  6032. that the trial testimony of Ralph Myers
  6033.  
  6034. 1364
  6035. 01:39:58,600 --> 01:40:01,434
  6036. is not found
  6037. to have been perjured testimony,
  6038.  
  6039. 1365
  6040. 01:40:02,000 --> 01:40:03,639
  6041. and no new trial shall be granted...
  6042.  
  6043. 1366
  6044. 01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:05,080
  6045. - It's not over.
  6046. - ...at this time.
  6047.  
  6048. 1367
  6049. 01:40:05,960 --> 01:40:09,237
  6050. Walter McMillian shall be returned
  6051. to Holman Correctional Facility,
  6052.  
  6053. 1368
  6054. 01:40:09,320 --> 01:40:11,994
  6055. where he is to face
  6056. death by electrocution.
  6057.  
  6058. 1369
  6059. 01:40:27,360 --> 01:40:29,556
  6060. You can't do this to us again, Judge.
  6061.  
  6062. 1370
  6063. 01:40:29,640 --> 01:40:30,756
  6064. Sit down, young man.
  6065.  
  6066. 1371
  6067. 01:40:30,840 --> 01:40:32,216
  6068. - John...
  6069. - This is my dad, sir.
  6070.  
  6071. 1372
  6072. 01:40:32,240 --> 01:40:33,959
  6073. John. I want you to sit down now.
  6074.  
  6075. 1373
  6076. 01:40:34,040 --> 01:40:35,474
  6077. He ain't do nothing wrong.
  6078.  
  6079. 1374
  6080. 01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:37,233
  6081. Listen to your father. Not here.
  6082.  
  6083. 1375
  6084. 01:40:37,320 --> 01:40:38,549
  6085. He ain't do nothing wrong.
  6086.  
  6087. 1376
  6088. 01:40:38,640 --> 01:40:39,994
  6089. Sit down right now
  6090.  
  6091. 1377
  6092. 01:40:40,080 --> 01:40:41,992
  6093. or you'll be arrested
  6094. for contempt of court.
  6095.  
  6096. 1378
  6097. 01:40:42,080 --> 01:40:44,296
  6098. Judge, just give me one second.
  6099. Please, Judge. Hold on one second.
  6100.  
  6101. 1379
  6102. 01:40:44,320 --> 01:40:45,320
  6103. Sit down, John.
  6104.  
  6105. 1380
  6106. 01:40:45,400 --> 01:40:47,278
  6107. I won't say it again.
  6108. Sit down!
  6109.  
  6110. 1381
  6111. 01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:49,636
  6112. Not if you gonna kill my dad
  6113. for no reason.
  6114.  
  6115. 1382
  6116. 01:40:50,040 --> 01:40:52,839
  6117. Not if you gonna kill my dad
  6118. for no reason!
  6119.  
  6120. 1383
  6121. 01:40:52,920 --> 01:40:54,176
  6122. He ain't do nothing wrong!
  6123.  
  6124. 1384
  6125. 01:40:54,200 --> 01:40:55,536
  6126. Not in here. Not like this.
  6127.  
  6128. 1385
  6129. 01:40:55,560 --> 01:40:57,279
  6130. You killing my family, sir.
  6131.  
  6132. 1386
  6133. 01:40:58,040 --> 01:41:00,396
  6134. You killing my family, sir. You!
  6135.  
  6136. 1387
  6137. 01:41:06,280 --> 01:41:07,280
  6138. John!
  6139.  
  6140. 1388
  6141. 01:41:08,040 --> 01:41:09,856
  6142. Judge! Judge! He's not resisting.
  6143.  
  6144. 1389
  6145. 01:41:09,880 --> 01:41:11,456
  6146. - John!
  6147. - He ain't do nothing.
  6148.  
  6149. 1390
  6150. 01:41:11,480 --> 01:41:12,596
  6151. Stop resisting.
  6152.  
  6153. 1391
  6154. 01:41:32,640 --> 01:41:35,030
  6155. You hear me?
  6156. Don't you let them get you.
  6157.  
  6158. 1392
  6159. 01:41:38,760 --> 01:41:40,513
  6160. It's gonna be all right.
  6161.  
  6162. 1393
  6163. 01:41:41,040 --> 01:41:42,474
  6164. Come on. Let's get you home.
  6165.  
  6166. 1394
  6167. 01:42:02,840 --> 01:42:04,752
  6168. Come on, man, don't make this hard.
  6169.  
  6170. 1395
  6171. 01:42:11,320 --> 01:42:12,800
  6172. Come on.
  6173.  
  6174. 1396
  6175. 01:42:12,880 --> 01:42:15,600
  6176. No. Don't do this, McMillian.
  6177. Come on. Go in.
  6178.  
  6179. 1397
  6180. 01:42:16,840 --> 01:42:18,399
  6181. Johnny D., no! No!
  6182.  
  6183. 1398
  6184. 01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:23,840
  6185. Johnny D., no!
  6186.  
  6187. 1399
  6188. 01:42:26,960 --> 01:42:27,996
  6189. Johnny...
  6190.  
  6191. 1400
  6192. 01:42:30,640 --> 01:42:32,791
  6193. Relax. Relax. Relax.
  6194.  
  6195. 1401
  6196. 01:42:34,120 --> 01:42:35,576
  6197. Give me your arm. Give me...
  6198.  
  6199. 1402
  6200. 01:42:35,600 --> 01:42:37,200
  6201. Get him cuffed!
  6202. Get him cuffed.
  6203.  
  6204. 1403
  6205. 01:42:38,040 --> 01:42:39,190
  6206. Relax.
  6207.  
  6208. 1404
  6209. 01:42:48,320 --> 01:42:49,320
  6210. Good job.
  6211.  
  6212. 1405
  6213. 01:43:59,280 --> 01:44:00,430
  6214. <i>No more</i>
  6215.  
  6216. 1406
  6217. 01:44:01,160 --> 01:44:04,517
  6218. <i>Auction</i>
  6219.  
  6220. 1407
  6221. 01:44:05,240 --> 01:44:11,680
  6222. <i>Block for me</i>
  6223.  
  6224. 1408
  6225. 01:44:14,600 --> 01:44:17,798
  6226. <i>No more</i>
  6227.  
  6228. 1409
  6229. 01:44:18,640 --> 01:44:25,640
  6230. <i>No more</i>
  6231.  
  6232. 1410
  6233. 01:44:28,040 --> 01:44:31,272
  6234. <i>No more</i>
  6235.  
  6236. 1411
  6237. 01:44:31,800 --> 01:44:36,397
  6238. <i>Auction</i>
  6239.  
  6240. 1412
  6241. 01:44:36,960 --> 01:44:43,116
  6242. <i>Block for me</i>
  6243.  
  6244. 1413
  6245. 01:44:54,640 --> 01:44:55,915
  6246. Nobody wants to remember
  6247.  
  6248. 1414
  6249. 01:44:56,000 --> 01:44:58,993
  6250. that this is where
  6251. thousands of enslaved people
  6252.  
  6253. 1415
  6254. 01:44:59,080 --> 01:45:02,676
  6255. were shipped in
  6256. and paraded up the street to be sold.
  6257.  
  6258. 1416
  6259. 01:45:05,920 --> 01:45:06,920
  6260. Just ten miles from here,
  6261.  
  6262. 1417
  6263. 01:45:06,960 --> 01:45:09,080
  6264. black people were pulled
  6265. from their homes and lynched.
  6266.  
  6267. 1418
  6268. 01:45:10,760 --> 01:45:12,274
  6269. Nobody talks about it.
  6270.  
  6271. 1419
  6272. 01:45:16,760 --> 01:45:20,197
  6273. And now this black boy from Delaware
  6274. walks into their courtrooms
  6275.  
  6276. 1420
  6277. 01:45:20,280 --> 01:45:24,194
  6278. and expects them to admit
  6279. they convicted an innocent black man.
  6280.  
  6281. 1421
  6282. 01:45:27,720 --> 01:45:30,952
  6283. I promised that whole community
  6284. I was gonna bring him home.
  6285.  
  6286. 1422
  6287. 01:45:35,360 --> 01:45:37,192
  6288. Then I just made things worse.
  6289.  
  6290. 1423
  6291. 01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:48,472
  6292. I've heard a lot of lawyers say
  6293.  
  6294. 1424
  6295. 01:45:48,560 --> 01:45:51,155
  6296. it's not a good idea
  6297. to get close to your clients.
  6298.  
  6299. 1425
  6300. 01:45:52,560 --> 01:45:54,153
  6301. Distance is healthy.
  6302.  
  6303. 1426
  6304. 01:45:57,840 --> 01:46:00,912
  6305. But working with you
  6306. showed me that that's bullshit.
  6307.  
  6308. 1427
  6309. 01:46:03,280 --> 01:46:06,193
  6310. You choose to get close
  6311. to every one of them.
  6312.  
  6313. 1428
  6314. 01:46:07,320 --> 01:46:09,915
  6315. And you love them
  6316. like they are your family.
  6317.  
  6318. 1429
  6319. 01:46:11,600 --> 01:46:14,274
  6320. And when your family is hurting,
  6321. you're hurting.
  6322.  
  6323. 1430
  6324. 01:46:20,400 --> 01:46:22,869
  6325. There is no way
  6326. that I could fully understand
  6327.  
  6328. 1431
  6329. 01:46:22,960 --> 01:46:24,758
  6330. what it is that you're going through.
  6331.  
  6332. 1432
  6333. 01:46:28,760 --> 01:46:30,433
  6334. But I am pretty sure that...
  6335.  
  6336. 1433
  6337. 01:46:30,800 --> 01:46:33,156
  6338. you mean a lot more to this community
  6339. than you think.
  6340.  
  6341. 1434
  6342. 01:47:39,120 --> 01:47:40,873
  6343. Walter, I'm so sorry.
  6344.  
  6345. 1435
  6346. 01:47:48,120 --> 01:47:51,033
  6347. Day I got arrested,
  6348. I thought I was gonna be okay.
  6349.  
  6350. 1436
  6351. 01:47:52,960 --> 01:47:54,633
  6352. 'Cause I got the truth.
  6353.  
  6354. 1437
  6355. 01:47:59,240 --> 01:48:01,277
  6356. Soon as they talk to everybody
  6357. that was with me,
  6358.  
  6359. 1438
  6360. 01:48:01,360 --> 01:48:02,953
  6361. they gonna have to let me go.
  6362.  
  6363. 1439
  6364. 01:48:08,560 --> 01:48:11,280
  6365. Then the police
  6366. keep calling you a killer.
  6367.  
  6368. 1440
  6369. 01:48:14,040 --> 01:48:18,034
  6370. Some white dude say he saw you do it.
  6371.  
  6372. 1441
  6373. 01:48:21,560 --> 01:48:23,677
  6374. News people saying you did it.
  6375.  
  6376. 1442
  6377. 01:48:25,720 --> 01:48:29,111
  6378. Judge and jury saying you did it.
  6379.  
  6380. 1443
  6381. 01:48:32,520 --> 01:48:34,000
  6382. Now you on the row...
  6383.  
  6384. 1444
  6385. 01:48:38,320 --> 01:48:40,312
  6386. two, three, four years.
  6387.  
  6388. 1445
  6389. 01:48:41,000 --> 01:48:44,311
  6390. Your friends and your kids
  6391. ain't calling you like they used to.
  6392.  
  6393. 1446
  6394. 01:48:46,960 --> 01:48:50,920
  6395. After a while, you start wondering
  6396. what they think about you.
  6397.  
  6398. 1447
  6399. 01:48:52,600 --> 01:48:55,195
  6400. You start wondering
  6401. what you think about you.
  6402.  
  6403. 1448
  6404. 01:49:01,720 --> 01:49:03,757
  6405. The truth ain't so clear no more.
  6406.  
  6407. 1449
  6408. 01:49:09,200 --> 01:49:11,192
  6409. But these last few days...
  6410.  
  6411. 1450
  6412. 01:49:11,960 --> 01:49:14,600
  6413. I can't stop thinking
  6414. about Myers up there.
  6415.  
  6416. 1451
  6417. 01:49:15,200 --> 01:49:17,192
  6418. Telling everybody how it went down.
  6419.  
  6420. 1452
  6421. 01:49:21,960 --> 01:49:25,351
  6422. That's the first time I feel like myself
  6423. since I've been locked up.
  6424.  
  6425. 1453
  6426. 01:49:28,360 --> 01:49:30,556
  6427. The first time I remember who I is.
  6428.  
  6429. 1454
  6430. 01:49:39,960 --> 01:49:42,156
  6431. These fools gonna do what they gonna do.
  6432.  
  6433. 1455
  6434. 01:49:46,040 --> 01:49:48,635
  6435. But if they take me
  6436. to that chair tonight...
  6437.  
  6438. 1456
  6439. 01:49:51,720 --> 01:49:53,473
  6440. I'm going out smiling.
  6441.  
  6442. 1457
  6443. 01:49:56,840 --> 01:49:58,718
  6444. 'Cause I got my truth back.
  6445.  
  6446. 1458
  6447. 01:50:03,720 --> 01:50:05,393
  6448. You gave that to me.
  6449.  
  6450. 1459
  6451. 01:50:08,520 --> 01:50:10,159
  6452. To me and my family.
  6453.  
  6454. 1460
  6455. 01:50:13,400 --> 01:50:15,710
  6456. And ain't nobody
  6457. gonna take that from us.
  6458.  
  6459. 1461
  6460. 01:50:25,600 --> 01:50:27,398
  6461. You ain't quitting, is you?
  6462.  
  6463. 1462
  6464. 01:50:31,680 --> 01:50:33,000
  6465. No, sir.
  6466.  
  6467. 1463
  6468. 01:50:40,120 --> 01:50:42,999
  6469. Then there ain't no reason for you
  6470. to say you're sorry.
  6471.  
  6472. 1464
  6473. 01:50:50,440 --> 01:50:53,399
  6474. I know how disappointing
  6475. the last hearing was...
  6476.  
  6477. 1465
  6478. 01:50:54,160 --> 01:50:56,720
  6479. but that's not where this is gonna end.
  6480.  
  6481. 1466
  6482. 01:50:57,800 --> 01:50:59,640
  6483. We're preparing a motion
  6484. to submit our evidence
  6485.  
  6486. 1467
  6487. 01:50:59,720 --> 01:51:01,712
  6488. to the state supreme court
  6489. in Montgomery.
  6490.  
  6491. 1468
  6492. 01:51:02,440 --> 01:51:04,557
  6493. They have the power
  6494. to reverse the last decision
  6495.  
  6496. 1469
  6497. 01:51:04,640 --> 01:51:06,791
  6498. and force the circuit court
  6499. to give us a new trial.
  6500.  
  6501. 1470
  6502. 01:51:08,280 --> 01:51:09,634
  6503. You think they'll do that?
  6504.  
  6505. 1471
  6506. 01:51:10,160 --> 01:51:11,355
  6507. Nothing's guaranteed.
  6508.  
  6509. 1472
  6510. 01:51:12,400 --> 01:51:15,916
  6511. But I can't see how an outside court
  6512. can ignore the evidence that we have.
  6513.  
  6514. 1473
  6515. 01:51:17,840 --> 01:51:19,035
  6516. And then what?
  6517.  
  6518. 1474
  6519. 01:51:20,400 --> 01:51:21,436
  6520. Even if he do get out,
  6521.  
  6522. 1475
  6523. 01:51:21,520 --> 01:51:23,796
  6524. everybody but us
  6525. still gonna think he guilty.
  6526.  
  6527. 1476
  6528. 01:51:24,720 --> 01:51:27,235
  6529. If they can't kill him in there,
  6530. they can still do it out here.
  6531.  
  6532. 1477
  6533. 01:51:28,800 --> 01:51:30,359
  6534. We've been worried about that, too.
  6535.  
  6536. 1478
  6537. 01:51:31,120 --> 01:51:33,430
  6538. And we're working on something
  6539. to help get the truth out.
  6540.  
  6541. 1479
  6542. 01:51:40,360 --> 01:51:42,800
  6543. We're rolling.
  6544. Whenever you're ready, Mr. Bradley.
  6545.  
  6546. 1480
  6547. 01:51:43,600 --> 01:51:45,557
  6548. Okay, Bryan, you ready?
  6549.  
  6550. 1481
  6551. 01:51:46,400 --> 01:51:47,550
  6552. I am.
  6553.  
  6554. 1482
  6555. 01:51:51,800 --> 01:51:56,033
  6556. <i>His name is Walter McMillian,
  6557. known to his friends as Johnny D.,</i>
  6558.  
  6559. 1483
  6560. 01:51:56,120 --> 01:51:58,680
  6561. <i>and he's been on death row
  6562. in Alabama's Holman prison</i>
  6563.  
  6564. 1484
  6565. 01:51:58,760 --> 01:52:00,479
  6566. <i>for almost six years.</i>
  6567.  
  6568. 1485
  6569. 01:52:00,880 --> 01:52:03,679
  6570. <i>A jury was convinced
  6571. they got the right man.</i>
  6572.  
  6573. 1486
  6574. 01:52:03,760 --> 01:52:06,480
  6575. <i>But you may not be
  6576. after you watch this story.</i>
  6577.  
  6578. 1487
  6579. 01:52:07,320 --> 01:52:08,595
  6580. <i>The clerk who was murdered...</i>
  6581.  
  6582. 1488
  6583. 01:52:08,680 --> 01:52:10,558
  6584. Hey, hey, turn that up!
  6585. I can't hear it.
  6586.  
  6587. 1489
  6588. 01:52:11,120 --> 01:52:14,431
  6589. <i>Johnny D. says
  6590. they want to execute the wrong man.</i>
  6591.  
  6592. 1490
  6593. 01:52:14,720 --> 01:52:16,837
  6594. <i>- You didn't kill Ronda Morrison?
  6595. - No, sir.</i>
  6596.  
  6597. 1491
  6598. 01:52:16,920 --> 01:52:18,680
  6599. <i>I never seen Ronda Morrison
  6600. a day in my life.</i>
  6601.  
  6602. 1492
  6603. 01:52:18,760 --> 01:52:19,910
  6604. <i>God knows I ain't.</i>
  6605.  
  6606. 1493
  6607. 01:52:20,000 --> 01:52:22,310
  6608. <i>Did you ever go
  6609. into Monroeville</i>
  6610.  
  6611. 1494
  6612. 01:52:22,400 --> 01:52:24,312
  6613. <i>- on the day of the murder?
  6614. - No, sir.</i>
  6615.  
  6616. 1495
  6617. 01:52:24,400 --> 01:52:27,120
  6618. - <i>You never went in...
  6619. - Never went to Monroeville, period.</i>
  6620.  
  6621. 1496
  6622. 01:52:27,240 --> 01:52:29,709
  6623. <i>I told them I had seen
  6624. a young girl</i>
  6625.  
  6626. 1497
  6627. 01:52:29,800 --> 01:52:31,951
  6628. <i>laying on the floor with her mouth open,</i>
  6629.  
  6630. 1498
  6631. 01:52:32,040 --> 01:52:33,679
  6632. <i>Johnny D. standing over her.</i>
  6633.  
  6634. 1499
  6635. 01:52:34,040 --> 01:52:35,394
  6636. <i>Was it true?</i>
  6637.  
  6638. 1500
  6639. 01:52:35,840 --> 01:52:38,674
  6640. <i>No, sir. Not at all. Nowhere near true.</i>
  6641.  
  6642. 1501
  6643. 01:52:39,520 --> 01:52:43,196
  6644. <i>If an execution date is set
  6645. for McMillian, and that day comes</i>
  6646.  
  6647. 1502
  6648. 01:52:43,280 --> 01:52:46,591
  6649. <i>and it's time for him to go
  6650. to the electric chair,</i>
  6651.  
  6652. 1503
  6653. 01:52:46,680 --> 01:52:48,034
  6654. <i>will you be comfortable?</i>
  6655.  
  6656. 1504
  6657. 01:52:48,120 --> 01:52:49,395
  6658. <i>Yes.</i>
  6659.  
  6660. 1505
  6661. 01:52:50,400 --> 01:52:51,720
  6662. <i>I'd be comfortable with it.</i>
  6663.  
  6664. 1506
  6665. 01:52:52,560 --> 01:52:55,200
  6666. <i>Do you think it's fair, just?
  6667. He had his...</i>
  6668.  
  6669. 1507
  6670. 01:52:55,280 --> 01:52:56,714
  6671. <i>He had his day in court.</i>
  6672.  
  6673. 1508
  6674. 01:52:57,120 --> 01:52:59,077
  6675. <i>He was tried by a jury.</i>
  6676.  
  6677. 1509
  6678. 01:52:59,160 --> 01:53:01,038
  6679. <i>They heard his testimony
  6680. and they believed it.</i>
  6681.  
  6682. 1510
  6683. 01:53:01,840 --> 01:53:05,277
  6684. <i>Chapman says he's going
  6685. to indict Myers for perjury.</i>
  6686.  
  6687. 1511
  6688. 01:53:05,520 --> 01:53:09,355
  6689. <i>Not for what he said at the trial,
  6690. but for what he's saying now.</i>
  6691.  
  6692. 1512
  6693. 01:53:09,880 --> 01:53:11,680
  6694. <i>Next, we'll be presenting
  6695. our evidence</i>
  6696.  
  6697. 1513
  6698. 01:53:11,760 --> 01:53:13,319
  6699. <i>to the Alabama Supreme Court,</i>
  6700.  
  6701. 1514
  6702. 01:53:13,400 --> 01:53:15,869
  6703. <i>hoping they'll see
  6704. what we think is very clear...</i>
  6705.  
  6706. 1515
  6707. 01:53:16,160 --> 01:53:18,038
  6708. <i>that Walter McMillian is innocent.</i>
  6709.  
  6710. 1516
  6711. 01:53:18,400 --> 01:53:20,119
  6712. <i>McMillian's fate is now</i>
  6713.  
  6714. 1517
  6715. 01:53:20,200 --> 01:53:22,431
  6716. <i>in the hands
  6717. of the Alabama Supreme Court,</i>
  6718.  
  6719. 1518
  6720. 01:53:22,520 --> 01:53:26,719
  6721. <i>which is expected to decide soon
  6722. if he's entitled to a new trial.</i>
  6723.  
  6724. 1519
  6725. 01:53:32,400 --> 01:53:33,880
  6726. EJI, this is Brenda.
  6727.  
  6728. 1520
  6729. 01:53:37,880 --> 01:53:39,837
  6730. Okay. I'll let him know. Thank you.
  6731.  
  6732. 1521
  6733. 01:53:43,600 --> 01:53:45,592
  6734. The supreme court ruling
  6735. in the McMillian case
  6736.  
  6737. 1522
  6738. 01:53:45,680 --> 01:53:46,909
  6739. is ready to be picked up.
  6740.  
  6741. 1523
  6742. 01:53:52,200 --> 01:53:53,520
  6743. I'll be back.
  6744.  
  6745. 1524
  6746. 01:53:59,920 --> 01:54:01,070
  6747. You're welcome.
  6748.  
  6749. 1525
  6750. 01:54:15,160 --> 01:54:17,496
  6751. <i>A wave of shock
  6752. rolled through Monroe County today</i>
  6753.  
  6754. 1526
  6755. 01:54:17,520 --> 01:54:18,954
  6756. <i>when the Alabama Supreme Court</i>
  6757.  
  6758. 1527
  6759. 01:54:19,080 --> 01:54:21,356
  6760. overturned the circuit court's
  6761. previous decision
  6762.  
  6763. 1528
  6764. 01:54:21,440 --> 01:54:25,400
  6765. and granted a new trial to convicted
  6766. killer Walter "Johnny D." McMillian.
  6767.  
  6768. 1529
  6769. 01:54:25,800 --> 01:54:27,871
  6770. This was the first time a court
  6771. outside the county
  6772.  
  6773. 1530
  6774. 01:54:27,960 --> 01:54:31,271
  6775. was shown the overwhelming evidence
  6776. proving Mr. McMillian's innocence.
  6777.  
  6778. 1531
  6779. 01:54:31,360 --> 01:54:33,272
  6780. Though the court
  6781. granted him a new trial,
  6782.  
  6783. 1532
  6784. 01:54:33,360 --> 01:54:35,397
  6785. we believe he deserves
  6786. to be released immediately.
  6787.  
  6788. 1533
  6789. 01:54:35,480 --> 01:54:37,880
  6790. And that's exactly what we'll be arguing
  6791. at the next hearing.
  6792.  
  6793. 1534
  6794. 01:54:37,960 --> 01:54:39,536
  6795. Mr. Chapman, how do you feel
  6796. about today's decision?
  6797.  
  6798. 1535
  6799. 01:54:39,560 --> 01:54:41,677
  6800. I have no comment at this time.
  6801. Thank you.
  6802.  
  6803. 1536
  6804. 01:54:49,480 --> 01:54:51,392
  6805. I'm looking for
  6806. Attorney Bryan Stevenson.
  6807.  
  6808. 1537
  6809. 01:54:53,400 --> 01:54:55,392
  6810. - Mr. Stevenson?
  6811. - How can I help you?
  6812.  
  6813. 1538
  6814. 01:54:55,480 --> 01:54:57,870
  6815. Yes, sir, I've been ordered
  6816. to serve you this pleading.
  6817.  
  6818. 1539
  6819. 01:54:58,960 --> 01:55:00,280
  6820. Thank you.
  6821.  
  6822. 1540
  6823. 01:55:15,880 --> 01:55:18,236
  6824. Tommy Chapman is asking the court
  6825. to stay the proceedings
  6826.  
  6827. 1541
  6828. 01:55:18,320 --> 01:55:20,471
  6829. so he can open up a new investigation.
  6830.  
  6831. 1542
  6832. 01:55:21,560 --> 01:55:23,950
  6833. He's trying to buy time
  6834. to rebuild his case.
  6835.  
  6836. 1543
  6837. 01:55:24,600 --> 01:55:27,240
  6838. That son of a bitch.
  6839.  
  6840. 1544
  6841. 01:55:33,960 --> 01:55:35,296
  6842. - Bryan?
  6843. - You're asking the court
  6844.  
  6845. 1545
  6846. 01:55:35,320 --> 01:55:37,915
  6847. to keep a man on death row
  6848. you know is innocent.
  6849.  
  6850. 1546
  6851. 01:55:40,120 --> 01:55:42,680
  6852. Excuse me, Counselor?
  6853. I don't know what you mean.
  6854.  
  6855. 1547
  6856. 01:55:42,760 --> 01:55:45,036
  6857. The supreme court supports
  6858. all the evidence we presented.
  6859.  
  6860. 1548
  6861. 01:55:45,120 --> 01:55:47,954
  6862. Every one of your witnesses recanted.
  6863. You got nothing left.
  6864.  
  6865. 1549
  6866. 01:55:48,040 --> 01:55:50,040
  6867. Well, hang on,
  6868. my investigation's still in process.
  6869.  
  6870. 1550
  6871. 01:55:50,080 --> 01:55:51,960
  6872. And we both know
  6873. you're not gonna find anything.
  6874.  
  6875. 1551
  6876. 01:55:55,440 --> 01:55:57,318
  6877. Do you have any idea the bullshit...
  6878.  
  6879. 1552
  6880. 01:55:58,080 --> 01:56:01,039
  6881. that I've had to put up with
  6882. since your <i>60 Minutes</i> story aired?
  6883.  
  6884. 1553
  6885. 01:56:01,880 --> 01:56:05,715
  6886. I got the governor on my ass,
  6887. got the NAACP calling me a racist.
  6888.  
  6889. 1554
  6890. 01:56:06,200 --> 01:56:08,510
  6891. I got Ronda's family
  6892. checking in every five minutes.
  6893.  
  6894. 1555
  6895. 01:56:08,600 --> 01:56:10,200
  6896. You can't keep an innocent man in prison
  6897.  
  6898. 1556
  6899. 01:56:10,280 --> 01:56:11,919
  6900. while you try
  6901. to salvage your reputation.
  6902.  
  6903. 1557
  6904. 01:56:12,000 --> 01:56:14,071
  6905. This ain't got nothing to do
  6906. with my reputation.
  6907.  
  6908. 1558
  6909. 01:56:15,600 --> 01:56:19,435
  6910. This is about the people of this county
  6911. who have hired me to keep 'em safe.
  6912.  
  6913. 1559
  6914. 01:56:20,680 --> 01:56:22,876
  6915. And what people
  6916. are you talking about right now?
  6917.  
  6918. 1560
  6919. 01:56:23,480 --> 01:56:25,039
  6920. The ones from this neighborhood?
  6921.  
  6922. 1561
  6923. 01:56:25,200 --> 01:56:28,159
  6924. Or the ones from the black community
  6925. you took Johnny D. from?
  6926.  
  6927. 1562
  6928. 01:56:28,240 --> 01:56:30,038
  6929. You think they feel safe?
  6930.  
  6931. 1563
  6932. 01:56:33,720 --> 01:56:36,235
  6933. Your job isn't to defend
  6934. a conviction, Tommy.
  6935.  
  6936. 1564
  6937. 01:56:36,320 --> 01:56:38,073
  6938. It's to achieve justice.
  6939.  
  6940. 1565
  6941. 01:56:38,800 --> 01:56:41,759
  6942. And as long as you keep fighting this,
  6943. someone from your county
  6944.  
  6945. 1566
  6946. 01:56:41,840 --> 01:56:44,071
  6947. has literally gotten away with murder.
  6948.  
  6949. 1567
  6950. 01:56:45,320 --> 01:56:47,136
  6951. You wanna come all the way to my house
  6952. at dinner time
  6953.  
  6954. 1568
  6955. 01:56:47,160 --> 01:56:48,799
  6956. just to tell me how to do my job?
  6957.  
  6958. 1569
  6959. 01:56:49,120 --> 01:56:50,713
  6960. No. No, I'm here
  6961.  
  6962. 1570
  6963. 01:56:50,800 --> 01:56:53,599
  6964. because I think you know the difference
  6965. between right and wrong.
  6966.  
  6967. 1571
  6968. 01:56:54,160 --> 01:56:56,629
  6969. And you know Johnny D.
  6970. didn't kill that girl.
  6971.  
  6972. 1572
  6973. 01:56:58,480 --> 01:57:00,870
  6974. I'm filing a motion
  6975. to dismiss all charges.
  6976.  
  6977. 1573
  6978. 01:57:01,080 --> 01:57:02,912
  6979. And I think that you should join it.
  6980.  
  6981. 1574
  6982. 01:57:14,840 --> 01:57:16,911
  6983. Next time you wanna stop by my house...
  6984.  
  6985. 1575
  6986. 01:57:19,280 --> 01:57:20,999
  6987. appreciate you calling me first.
  6988.  
  6989. 1576
  6990. 01:57:21,280 --> 01:57:23,397
  6991. Now, you get the hell
  6992. off my property, Bryan.
  6993.  
  6994. 1577
  6995. 01:57:43,920 --> 01:57:45,320
  6996. There's Bryan.
  6997.  
  6998. 1578
  6999. 01:57:46,040 --> 01:57:47,936
  7000. - What's going on?
  7001. - They won't let us in.
  7002.  
  7003. 1579
  7004. 01:57:47,960 --> 01:57:50,839
  7005. That boy is making us wait out here
  7006. for over an hour.
  7007.  
  7008. 1580
  7009. 01:57:51,680 --> 01:57:53,000
  7010. Excuse me.
  7011.  
  7012. 1581
  7013. 01:57:53,080 --> 01:57:54,355
  7014. What are you doing?
  7015.  
  7016. 1582
  7017. 01:57:54,440 --> 01:57:55,874
  7018. Just following orders.
  7019.  
  7020. 1583
  7021. 01:57:56,320 --> 01:57:59,552
  7022. This is a public hearing.
  7023. These people need to be let in now.
  7024.  
  7025. 1584
  7026. 01:58:02,000 --> 01:58:03,000
  7027. Um...
  7028.  
  7029. 1585
  7030. 01:58:06,360 --> 01:58:07,874
  7031. Y'all can go in now.
  7032.  
  7033. 1586
  7034. 01:58:08,160 --> 01:58:09,799
  7035. Now that there's no seats left.
  7036.  
  7037. 1587
  7038. 01:58:09,880 --> 01:58:11,109
  7039. It's okay.
  7040.  
  7041. 1588
  7042. 01:58:11,720 --> 01:58:13,074
  7043. We'll find room.
  7044.  
  7045. 1589
  7046. 01:58:13,480 --> 01:58:14,576
  7047. - Go on in.
  7048. - Y'all come on.
  7049.  
  7050. 1590
  7051. 01:58:14,600 --> 01:58:16,080
  7052. - Excuse us.
  7053. - Yeah.
  7054.  
  7055. 1591
  7056. 01:58:16,160 --> 01:58:17,355
  7057. Come on, y'all.
  7058.  
  7059. 1592
  7060. 01:58:18,120 --> 01:58:19,554
  7061. Right this way. Come on.
  7062.  
  7063. 1593
  7064. 01:58:20,360 --> 01:58:21,589
  7065. Okay.
  7066.  
  7067. 1594
  7068. 01:58:25,240 --> 01:58:26,416
  7069. Good to see you, sugar.
  7070.  
  7071. 1595
  7072. 01:58:26,440 --> 01:58:28,113
  7073. Okay. Thank you. Yes, ma'am.
  7074.  
  7075. 1596
  7076. 01:58:30,040 --> 01:58:31,440
  7077. All rise.
  7078.  
  7079. 1597
  7080. 01:58:34,120 --> 01:58:37,591
  7081. The 28th Judicial Circuit Court
  7082. of Alabama is now in session.
  7083.  
  7084. 1598
  7085. 01:58:37,680 --> 01:58:40,275
  7086. The Honorable Judge
  7087. Pamela Baschab presiding.
  7088.  
  7089. 1599
  7090. 01:58:40,640 --> 01:58:41,835
  7091. Please be seated.
  7092.  
  7093. 1600
  7094. 01:58:45,280 --> 01:58:49,593
  7095. We've got a full house, so let's try
  7096. to move through this in a timely manner.
  7097.  
  7098. 1601
  7099. 01:58:49,960 --> 01:58:53,158
  7100. We're here because Mr. Stevenson
  7101. has filed a motion
  7102.  
  7103. 1602
  7104. 01:58:53,240 --> 01:58:55,197
  7105. to dismiss all charges
  7106.  
  7107. 1603
  7108. 01:58:55,280 --> 01:58:57,670
  7109. against Mr. McMillian in this case.
  7110.  
  7111. 1604
  7112. 01:58:58,000 --> 01:58:59,753
  7113. Now, Mr. Stevenson,
  7114. since it's your motion,
  7115.  
  7116. 1605
  7117. 01:58:59,840 --> 01:59:01,638
  7118. I'd like for you to speak to it first
  7119.  
  7120. 1606
  7121. 01:59:01,720 --> 01:59:03,279
  7122. and then we'll hear from the state.
  7123.  
  7124. 1607
  7125. 01:59:16,280 --> 01:59:19,830
  7126. It's easy to see this case as one man
  7127. trying to prove his innocence.
  7128.  
  7129. 1608
  7130. 01:59:21,400 --> 01:59:23,790
  7131. But when you take a black man
  7132. and you put him on death row
  7133.  
  7134. 1609
  7135. 01:59:23,880 --> 01:59:25,394
  7136. a year before his trial...
  7137.  
  7138. 1610
  7139. 01:59:26,400 --> 01:59:29,199
  7140. and exclude black people
  7141. from serving on his jury...
  7142.  
  7143. 1611
  7144. 01:59:30,720 --> 01:59:31,880
  7145. When you base your conviction
  7146.  
  7147. 1612
  7148. 01:59:31,960 --> 01:59:34,156
  7149. on a coerced testimony
  7150. of a white felon...
  7151.  
  7152. 1613
  7153. 01:59:34,960 --> 01:59:38,920
  7154. and ignore the testimony of two dozen
  7155. law-abiding black witnesses...
  7156.  
  7157. 1614
  7158. 01:59:40,560 --> 01:59:43,075
  7159. When any evidence proving
  7160. his innocence is suppressed
  7161.  
  7162. 1615
  7163. 01:59:43,160 --> 01:59:46,278
  7164. and anyone who tries to tell the truth
  7165. is threatened...
  7166.  
  7167. 1616
  7168. 01:59:47,040 --> 01:59:50,317
  7169. this case becomes more than the trial
  7170. of just a single defendant.
  7171.  
  7172. 1617
  7173. 01:59:51,280 --> 01:59:52,873
  7174. It becomes a test
  7175.  
  7176. 1618
  7177. 01:59:52,960 --> 01:59:56,271
  7178. of whether we're going to be
  7179. governed by fear and by anger
  7180.  
  7181. 1619
  7182. 01:59:56,640 --> 01:59:58,120
  7183. or by the rule of law.
  7184.  
  7185. 1620
  7186. 02:00:05,160 --> 02:00:07,200
  7187. If the people standing in the back
  7188. of this courtroom
  7189.  
  7190. 1621
  7191. 02:00:07,240 --> 02:00:09,516
  7192. are all presumed guilty when accused...
  7193.  
  7194. 1622
  7195. 02:00:12,080 --> 02:00:14,276
  7196. If they have to leave here
  7197. and live in fear
  7198.  
  7199. 1623
  7200. 02:00:14,360 --> 02:00:16,829
  7201. of when this very thing
  7202. will happen to them...
  7203.  
  7204. 1624
  7205. 02:00:19,080 --> 02:00:20,833
  7206. If we're just gonna accept the system
  7207.  
  7208. 1625
  7209. 02:00:20,920 --> 02:00:23,560
  7210. that treats you better
  7211. if you're rich and guilty
  7212.  
  7213. 1626
  7214. 02:00:23,640 --> 02:00:25,791
  7215. than if you're poor and innocent,
  7216.  
  7217. 1627
  7218. 02:00:25,880 --> 02:00:27,473
  7219. then we can't claim to be just.
  7220.  
  7221. 1628
  7222. 02:00:29,200 --> 02:00:32,318
  7223. If we say we're committed
  7224. to equal justice under law,
  7225.  
  7226. 1629
  7227. 02:00:32,400 --> 02:00:34,437
  7228. to protecting
  7229. the rights of every citizen,
  7230.  
  7231. 1630
  7232. 02:00:34,520 --> 02:00:37,877
  7233. regardless of wealth, race, or status,
  7234.  
  7235. 1631
  7236. 02:00:38,400 --> 02:00:41,677
  7237. then we have to end this nightmare
  7238. for Walter McMillian and his family.
  7239.  
  7240. 1632
  7241. 02:00:42,680 --> 02:00:45,479
  7242. The charges against him have been proven
  7243. to be a false construction
  7244.  
  7245. 1633
  7246. 02:00:45,560 --> 02:00:49,031
  7247. of desperate people
  7248. fueled by bigotry and bias...
  7249.  
  7250. 1634
  7251. 02:00:49,800 --> 02:00:52,554
  7252. who ignored the truth
  7253. in exchange for easy solutions,
  7254.  
  7255. 1635
  7256. 02:00:52,680 --> 02:00:54,273
  7257. and that's not the law.
  7258.  
  7259. 1636
  7260. 02:00:56,120 --> 02:00:57,679
  7261. That's not justice.
  7262.  
  7263. 1637
  7264. 02:01:01,080 --> 02:01:02,275
  7265. That's not right.
  7266.  
  7267. 1638
  7268. 02:01:05,560 --> 02:01:08,678
  7269. I ask that this case
  7270. be dismissed immediately, Your Honor.
  7271.  
  7272. 1639
  7273. 02:01:11,960 --> 02:01:13,360
  7274. Thank you.
  7275.  
  7276. 1640
  7277. 02:01:26,240 --> 02:01:29,438
  7278. Mr. Chapman, what is the state's
  7279. position on this motion?
  7280.  
  7281. 1641
  7282. 02:01:36,600 --> 02:01:39,672
  7283. Your Honor, may I approach the bench?
  7284.  
  7285. 1642
  7286. 02:01:39,760 --> 02:01:40,876
  7287. Yes.
  7288.  
  7289. 1643
  7290. 02:01:45,640 --> 02:01:46,915
  7291. Your Honor, um...
  7292.  
  7293. 1644
  7294. 02:01:47,480 --> 02:01:48,709
  7295. I'm troubled.
  7296.  
  7297. 1645
  7298. 02:01:50,400 --> 02:01:51,993
  7299. - You're troubled?
  7300. - Troubled.
  7301.  
  7302. 1646
  7303. 02:01:56,920 --> 02:01:59,037
  7304. 'Cause I know that the people
  7305. in this community
  7306.  
  7307. 1647
  7308. 02:01:59,120 --> 02:02:00,600
  7309. want to go to sleep at night
  7310.  
  7311. 1648
  7312. 02:02:00,680 --> 02:02:03,479
  7313. knowing that if someone
  7314. has committed a terrible crime,
  7315.  
  7316. 1649
  7317. 02:02:03,560 --> 02:02:05,677
  7318. then that someone is gonna be punished.
  7319.  
  7320. 1650
  7321. 02:02:10,760 --> 02:02:11,955
  7322. But, um...
  7323.  
  7324. 1651
  7325. 02:02:12,840 --> 02:02:14,069
  7326. in this case...
  7327.  
  7328. 1652
  7329. 02:02:16,720 --> 02:02:20,077
  7330. Your Honor, I have taken another look
  7331. at the evidence...
  7332.  
  7333. 1653
  7334. 02:02:20,960 --> 02:02:22,110
  7335. and, uh...
  7336.  
  7337. 1654
  7338. 02:02:26,960 --> 02:02:28,633
  7339. Mr. Chapman, please?
  7340.  
  7341. 1655
  7342. 02:02:28,720 --> 02:02:31,189
  7343. And the state does not object
  7344. to the motion, Your Honor.
  7345.  
  7346. 1656
  7347. 02:02:33,400 --> 02:02:34,550
  7348. What?
  7349.  
  7350. 1657
  7351. 02:02:37,120 --> 02:02:39,191
  7352. To be clear,
  7353. Mr. Chapman,
  7354.  
  7355. 1658
  7356. 02:02:39,280 --> 02:02:43,240
  7357. are you joining the motion
  7358. to dismiss all charges today?
  7359.  
  7360. 1659
  7361. 02:02:44,800 --> 02:02:46,120
  7362. Yes, Your Honor, I am.
  7363.  
  7364. 1660
  7365. 02:02:48,240 --> 02:02:49,276
  7366. Order.
  7367.  
  7368. 1661
  7369. 02:02:49,360 --> 02:02:51,636
  7370. Please. Order.
  7371.  
  7372. 1662
  7373. 02:02:55,000 --> 02:02:58,198
  7374. Well, y'all have made my job easy today.
  7375.  
  7376. 1663
  7377. 02:02:59,200 --> 02:03:02,796
  7378. In the case of <i>The People v. McMillian,</i>
  7379.  
  7380. 1664
  7381. 02:03:02,880 --> 02:03:06,191
  7382. the court hereby grants
  7383. the defendant's motion.
  7384.  
  7385. 1665
  7386. 02:03:07,000 --> 02:03:10,311
  7387. All charges against you
  7388. are dismissed, Mr. McMillian.
  7389.  
  7390. 1666
  7391. 02:03:10,400 --> 02:03:12,596
  7392. What does that mean?
  7393.  
  7394. 1667
  7395. 02:03:12,680 --> 02:03:13,909
  7396. That means you're free.
  7397.  
  7398. 1668
  7399. 02:03:14,000 --> 02:03:15,957
  7400. That means you're free
  7401. and you get to go home.
  7402.  
  7403. 1669
  7404. 02:03:31,160 --> 02:03:32,196
  7405. Hey.
  7406.  
  7407. 1670
  7408. 02:03:36,200 --> 02:03:37,360
  7409. Your family's coming.
  7410.  
  7411. 1671
  7412. 02:04:00,600 --> 02:04:02,512
  7413. I have my family back.
  7414.  
  7415. 1672
  7416. 02:04:51,040 --> 02:04:52,759
  7417. We're all with you, brother.
  7418.  
  7419. 1673
  7420. 02:05:14,160 --> 02:05:15,753
  7421. Yo, Johnny D.!
  7422.  
  7423. 1674
  7424. 02:05:45,080 --> 02:05:47,914
  7425. <i>I came out of law school
  7426. with grand ideas in my mind</i>
  7427.  
  7428. 1675
  7429. 02:05:48,000 --> 02:05:49,719
  7430. <i>about how to change the world.</i>
  7431.  
  7432. 1676
  7433. 02:05:53,320 --> 02:05:55,880
  7434. <i>But Mr. McMillian made me realize
  7435. we can't change the world</i>
  7436.  
  7437. 1677
  7438. 02:05:55,960 --> 02:05:57,679
  7439. <i>with only ideas in our minds.</i>
  7440.  
  7441. 1678
  7442. 02:05:59,400 --> 02:06:01,153
  7443. <i>We need conviction in our hearts.</i>
  7444.  
  7445. 1679
  7446. 02:06:03,360 --> 02:06:05,238
  7447. <i>This man taught me how to stay hopeful.</i>
  7448.  
  7449. 1680
  7450. 02:06:05,880 --> 02:06:08,190
  7451. <i>Because I now know that hopelessness</i>
  7452.  
  7453. 1681
  7454. 02:06:08,280 --> 02:06:09,873
  7455. <i>is the enemy ofjustice.</i>
  7456.  
  7457. 1682
  7458. 02:06:12,360 --> 02:06:14,113
  7459. <i>Hope allows us to push forward,</i>
  7460.  
  7461. 1683
  7462. 02:06:14,200 --> 02:06:17,238
  7463. <i>even when the truth is distorted
  7464. by the people in power.</i>
  7465.  
  7466. 1684
  7467. 02:06:20,080 --> 02:06:21,799
  7468. <i>It allows us to stand up</i>
  7469.  
  7470. 1685
  7471. 02:06:22,160 --> 02:06:23,833
  7472. <i>when they tell us to sit down.</i>
  7473.  
  7474. 1686
  7475. 02:06:24,240 --> 02:06:26,914
  7476. <i>And to speak when they say, "Be quiet."</i>
  7477.  
  7478. 1687
  7479. 02:06:32,120 --> 02:06:34,430
  7480. Through this work,
  7481. I've learned that each of us
  7482.  
  7483. 1688
  7484. 02:06:34,520 --> 02:06:36,637
  7485. is more than the worst thing
  7486. that we've ever done.
  7487.  
  7488. 1689
  7489. 02:06:38,600 --> 02:06:40,831
  7490. That the opposite of poverty
  7491. isn't wealth.
  7492.  
  7493. 1690
  7494. 02:06:42,160 --> 02:06:44,914
  7495. The opposite of poverty is justice.
  7496.  
  7497. 1691
  7498. 02:06:46,920 --> 02:06:49,355
  7499. That the character of our nation
  7500. isn't reflected
  7501.  
  7502. 1692
  7503. 02:06:49,440 --> 02:06:51,830
  7504. in how we treat the rich
  7505. and the privileged...
  7506.  
  7507. 1693
  7508. 02:06:53,080 --> 02:06:57,359
  7509. but how we treat the poor,
  7510. the disfavored and condemned.
  7511.  
  7512. 1694
  7513. 02:07:02,120 --> 02:07:05,591
  7514. Our system has taken more away
  7515. from this innocent man
  7516.  
  7517. 1695
  7518. 02:07:05,720 --> 02:07:07,473
  7519. than it has the power to give back.
  7520.  
  7521. 1696
  7522. 02:07:10,840 --> 02:07:13,639
  7523. But I believe if each of us
  7524. can follow his lead...
  7525.  
  7526. 1697
  7527. 02:07:14,680 --> 02:07:17,070
  7528. we can change this world for the better.
  7529.  
  7530. 1698
  7531. 02:07:21,080 --> 02:07:23,197
  7532. If we can look at ourselves closely...
  7533.  
  7534. 1699
  7535. 02:07:23,960 --> 02:07:25,280
  7536. and honestly...
  7537.  
  7538. 1700
  7539. 02:07:25,880 --> 02:07:28,918
  7540. I believe we will see
  7541. that we all need justice.
  7542.  
  7543. 1701
  7544. 02:07:30,840 --> 02:07:32,752
  7545. We all need mercy.
  7546.  
  7547. 1702
  7548. 02:07:33,600 --> 02:07:34,795
  7549. And perhaps...
  7550.  
  7551. 1703
  7552. 02:07:35,200 --> 02:07:38,238
  7553. we all need some measure
  7554. of unmerited grace.
  7555.  
  7556. 1704
  7557. 02:07:41,720 --> 02:07:43,040
  7558. Thank you.
  7559.  
  7560. 1705
  7561. 02:07:46,360 --> 02:07:48,079
  7562. I taught you all that?
  7563.  
  7564. 1706
  7565. 02:07:51,440 --> 02:07:53,159
  7566. Yeah, you taught me some of that.
  7567.  
  7568. 1707
  7569. 02:07:54,360 --> 02:07:56,875
  7570. I'm pretty good, ain't I?
  7571.  
  7572. 1708
  7573. 02:07:57,360 --> 02:07:58,430
  7574. Yeah.
  7575.  
  7576. 1709
  7577. 02:07:58,520 --> 02:07:59,954
  7578. Great job.
  7579.  
  7580. 1710
  7581. 02:09:50,560 --> 02:09:52,119
  7582. Hi!
  7583.  
  7584. 1711
  7585. 02:09:52,760 --> 02:09:56,037
  7586. Oh, Lord, thank you, Jesus.
  7587.  
  7588. 1712
  7589. 02:09:56,240 --> 02:09:58,550
  7590. Thank you, Lord.
  7591.  
  7592. 1713
  7593. 02:09:59,400 --> 02:10:02,632
  7594. Oh, thank you, Jesus.
  7595.  
  7596. 1714
  7597. 02:10:18,000 --> 02:10:19,878
  7598. <i>I'ma gonna lay down,
  7599. lay down</i>
  7600.  
  7601. 1715
  7602. 02:10:19,960 --> 02:10:23,431
  7603. <i>I'ma gonna lay down, lay down</i>
  7604.  
  7605. 1716
  7606. 02:10:23,520 --> 02:10:30,074
  7607. <i>I'ma gonna lay down my life
  7608. for my Lord</i>
  7609.  
  7610. 1717
  7611. 02:10:30,160 --> 02:10:33,995
  7612. <i>Yes, I'ma gonna lay down, lay down</i>
  7613.  
  7614. 1718
  7615. 02:10:34,080 --> 02:10:37,391
  7616. <i>I'ma gonna lay down, lay down</i>
  7617.  
  7618. 1719
  7619. 02:10:37,480 --> 02:10:42,555
  7620. <i>I'ma gonna lay down my life
  7621. for my Lord</i>
  7622.  
  7623. 1720
  7624. 02:10:42,640 --> 02:10:46,680
  7625. <i>Oh, when them gamblers get together</i>
  7626.  
  7627. 1721
  7628. 02:10:46,760 --> 02:10:49,912
  7629. <i>How they can gamble like one another</i>
  7630.  
  7631. 1722
  7632. 02:10:50,000 --> 02:10:55,359
  7633. <i>But I'ma gonna lay down my life
  7634. for my Lord</i>
  7635.  
  7636. 1723
  7637. 02:10:55,440 --> 02:10:59,275
  7638. <i>Oh, when them drunkards get together</i>
  7639.  
  7640. 1724
  7641. 02:10:59,360 --> 02:11:02,398
  7642. <i>How they can drink like one another</i>
  7643.  
  7644. 1725
  7645. 02:11:02,480 --> 02:11:06,997
  7646. <i>But I'ma gonna lay down my life
  7647. for my Lord</i>
  7648.  
  7649. 1726
  7650. 02:11:07,080 --> 02:11:10,312
  7651. <i>Yes, I'ma gonna lay down my life</i>
  7652.  
  7653. 1727
  7654. 02:11:10,400 --> 02:11:14,076
  7655. <i>Oh, yes, I'm gonna lay down my</i>
  7656.  
  7657. 1728
  7658. 02:11:14,160 --> 02:11:18,677
  7659. <i>Lord, I'm gonna lay down my life
  7660. for my Lord</i>
  7661.  
  7662. 1729
  7663. 02:11:18,760 --> 02:11:22,117
  7664. <i>And John said to lay down my life</i>
  7665.  
  7666. 1730
  7667. 02:11:22,200 --> 02:11:25,591
  7668. <i>Yes, he said, "Lay down, lay down"</i>
  7669.  
  7670. 1731
  7671. 02:11:25,680 --> 02:11:30,038
  7672. <i>John said to lay down my life
  7673. for my Lord</i>
  7674.  
  7675. 1732
  7676. 02:11:30,120 --> 02:11:33,079
  7677. <i>Luke said to lay down, lay down</i>
  7678.  
  7679. 1733
  7680. 02:11:33,160 --> 02:11:36,517
  7681. <i>Oh, Luke said to lay down, lay down</i>
  7682.  
  7683. 1734
  7684. 02:11:36,600 --> 02:11:41,436
  7685. <i>Yeah, Luke said to lay down my life
  7686. for my Lord</i>
  7687.  
  7688. 1735
  7689. 02:11:41,520 --> 02:11:45,036
  7690. <i>Oh, when them dicers get together</i>
  7691.  
  7692. 1736
  7693. 02:11:45,120 --> 02:11:47,954
  7694. <i>How they economize one another</i>
  7695.  
  7696. 1737
  7697. 02:11:48,040 --> 02:11:52,478
  7698. <i>But I'ma gonna lay down my life
  7699. for my Lord</i>
  7700.  
  7701. 1738
  7702. 02:11:52,560 --> 02:11:56,236
  7703. <i>Oh, when them dicers get together</i>
  7704.  
  7705. 1739
  7706. 02:11:56,320 --> 02:11:59,074
  7707. <i>How they economize one another</i>
  7708.  
  7709. 1740
  7710. 02:11:59,200 --> 02:12:03,672
  7711. <i>But I'ma gonna lay down my life
  7712. for my Lord</i>
  7713.  
  7714. 1741
  7715. 02:12:03,760 --> 02:12:07,276
  7716. <i>Oh, when them liars get together</i>
  7717.  
  7718. 1742
  7719. 02:12:07,360 --> 02:12:10,114
  7720. <i>How they can lie like one another</i>
  7721.  
  7722. 1743
  7723. 02:12:10,200 --> 02:12:14,797
  7724. <i>But I'ma gonna lay down my life
  7725. for my Lord</i>
  7726.  
  7727. 1744
  7728. 02:12:14,880 --> 02:12:17,952
  7729. <i>Yes, I'ma gonna lay down, lay down</i>
  7730.  
  7731. 1745
  7732. 02:12:18,040 --> 02:12:21,192
  7733. <i>I'ma gonna lay down, lay down</i>
  7734.  
  7735. 1746
  7736. 02:12:21,280 --> 02:12:28,153
  7737. <i>I know I'm gonna lay down my life
  7738. for my Lord</i>
  7739.  
  7740.  
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