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<Roget> man so I'm in guntalk, and I see Aelanna saying all the teams that did well in the contest were old guard. I kinda want to point out that the second place team was all people who joined in the past six months, but I feel like I'd get banned if I did
<Riemann> Ael is in guntalk?
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<Roget> Yesh
<Riemann> hahahaha that makes sense
<Riemann> So much sense
<Roget> or poinr out how we were all encouraging the newbie ryuta on the Nobody team'
<Roget> and trying to help him get all his stuff done by hisself
<djkaktus> fucking hockenberry
* djkaktus shakes head
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<Roget> yeah
<Riemann> Goddamn hockenberry
* Riemann pinches djkaktus cheeks
<djkaktus> oh u
<Roget> but I'm just looking at what she's saying and think "you have a complete disconnect from reality"
<Riemann> You have opinions about users :3
<djkaktus> If Aelanna has a problem with the contest
<djkaktus> then why didnt she join.
<djkaktus> Seems obvious to me, if being old guard helps you win
<djkaktus> then she should've won, right?
<djkaktus> She's been around forever.
<Roget> because she's divorced herself from the site, and now angsts about it
<djkaktus> And yet, here we are.
* djkaktus nods
<Roget> I mean, how can you be angsty and be a martyr if you don't complain about how everyone you don't like is wrong?
<Roget> and talk about Bright like anythign he says or does has any impact on how staff functions
<Riemann> Hey
<Dr_Kens> I like Aelanna as a friend? But god damn she needs to get over this shit.
<Riemann> He deleted that page
<Riemann> Roget.
<Riemann> :p
<Roget> because you don't like Bright and want him to be powerful so you can complain about his influence
<Roget> Dr_Kens, are you seeing the shit I see tho
<Roget> like it'
<Roget> s not just me
<Dr_Kens> Roget: I don't talk to her about SCP shit.
<Dr_Kens> like
<Dr_Kens> I just completely avoid it
<Dr_Kens> because it's a shitshow
<Dr_Kens> And yes, I know all about it ROget.
<djkaktus> I don't know her, but I've read a lot about her
<Dr_Kens> Remember how long I've been here?
<djkaktus> and she does seem to thrive as a victim.
<djkaktus> :/
<Roget> tru kens
<Roget> It's a shame. She could've been great. But there's always that thing of "if you're a dick to people who might help you, then they don't help you, and it's not really a mystery why you don't get your way"
<djkaktus> Roget what was her particular beef with you?
<Riemann> Everything
<djkaktus> Hrmm
<Dr_Kens> Pretty much.
<Roget> djkaktus, well, one time I was telling her that I didn't think new additions to 069-J were funny, and I insisted on getting my point across. She told me to stop, then kept going on, then told me to stop and I kept going on
<Roget> then she ragequit the site and we had a six month drama bomb
<Roget> then she came back, and we had a lot of near misses. Then one day in sssc, I was doing that thing where I pretend to be super egotistical
<Roget> "I'm the best in the world" etc.
<djkaktus> haha
<Roget> And she just got really aggressive about it
<Roget> and then she attacked me again, but I didn't bite back
<Roget> I handled it super well. Then that led to her quitting later on.
<djkaktus> I remember that
<Roget> and self-banishing from site19 after she tried to bait us into banning her
<djkaktus> er, the log, anyway.
<djkaktus> but /why/ tho. If nobody is being like, actively malicious towards you
<djkaktus> then why pick a fight.
<Eskobear> well, now
<Eskobear> that's one interpretation of how that went down
<djkaktus> unless
<Eskobear> the latter thing in staffchat, that is
<djkaktus> what are your thoughts, Eskobear?
<Eskobear> what, about Aelanna?
<djkaktus> Sure. About all the shenanigans.
<Eskobear> she's an interesting psychological specimen
<lurkd> Last night I made a milshake with baileys.
<Eskobear> i deeply respect her abilities and i sincerely hope she never wants to come back to active work on the wiki
<lurkd> Too much baileys
<Riemann> Oooo sounds fun lurkd
<Eskobear> lurkd: NULL_ERROR="too much"+"baileys"
<djkaktus> Because you dont think she can be a functional member, or because her reputation precedes her too far now?
<Dr_Kens> Bit of both.
<Roget> I think she's immensely talented, but she's not trustworthy to be able to work without a complete meltdown
<Dr_Kens> I'll be frank, here.
<Roget> We've tried twice
<djkaktus> lurkd I dont believe in too much baileys, so you've lost me here.
<Dr_Kens> There's too much drama anymore.
<Eskobear> here's the thing
<Eskobear> she...wants something that she can't have
<djkaktus> Which is what?
<lurkd> Total absolute control.
<Eskobear> which is basically...I don't wanna say /adoration/, but basically an impossible-to-achieve and unchallengable level of respect
<Eskobear> It isn't even /control/ per se.
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<Eskobear> She wants infallibility, basically.
<Dr_Kens> She wants everyone to listen to her and agree with her.
<Dr_Kens> That's a good word for it.
<djkaktus> Why? It's a writing website, did she think she was the best writer?
<Dr_Kens> She wants to say she's the best authority on the subject.
<Eskobear> And she has, beyond any shadow of doubt, put more work into the wiki, of a unique and technically specific nature, than anybody else ever.
<Roget> she was actually weirdly self-depreciating about her writing, even her good writing
<Eskobear> So in that regard, she's #1
<Eskobear> and she's unquestionably #1
<djkaktus> Eskobear of course
<Eskobear> but #1 doesn't carry with it that infallibility that she wants
<lurkd> She's just one of those people that will go out of her way to write a bad survey because a waitress was a minute late in refilling her glass.
<djkaktus> Did she want to be above the rules, or above the criticism?
<Eskobear> Again, lurkd, it's not even that simple. She's really not a /dick/ as such.
<lurkd> Quite literally, makes a hobby of holding grudges.
<Dr_Kens> Mmm
<Dr_Kens> I wouldn't say she wanted to be above the rule or criticism...
<Dr_Kens> It's...I don't know, an interesting situation.
<Eskobear> yeah, exactly
<djkaktus> I dont want to put anybody in an awkward position here
<Eskobear> she has a very unique personality
<djkaktus> Kens, I know youve said you and her are friends
<djkaktus> I was just curious
<lurkd> Eskobar, I don't care how much effort she's put forth.  She's not a nice person.
<Dr_Kens> Huh?
<djkaktus> didn't you say that? or was it somebody else?
<lurkd> I'll just stop right there.
<Dr_Kens> Oh, no, see I can separate being a friend and being a moderator/senior staff.
<Dr_Kens> As a friend, we have a lot of the same interests and humor.
<Dr_Kens> We get along.
<djkaktus> Sure, of course
<Dr_Kens> But when it comes to working as staff and such?
<Dr_Kens> There's a division there and I recognize the issues.
<Dr_Kens> And I side with the wiki.
<djkaktus> Absolutely.
<Eskobear> unrelated question: can Wikidot do inline images?
<Eskobear> or does it block them off automatically
<Dr_Kens> Eskobear: Uh, I think so? I thought I remember seeing a setting for it.
<Dr_Kens> If not, there's probably come CSS or HTML trickery you could do.