Michael M Yazdani
just curious, have you seen that tweet from the "leader" of BLM toronto?
Eric Rogers
6:15pm
Eric Rogers
I have.
Michael M Yazdani
6:16pm
Michael M Yazdani
i honestly think that should disqualify them from leading the pride parade
now their movement isn't about pride, its supremacy
Eric Rogers
6:16pm
Eric Rogers
It was a horrible choice of words for her to express her emotions.
Michael M Yazdani
6:17pm
Michael M Yazdani
if she's a leader, she needs to watch what she says
on an unrelated note: the triple hit mix popcorn (caramel corn, chocolate, and mini pretzels) is on point
Eric Rogers
6:18pm
Eric Rogers
She really does. I agree. I will never understand the anger and emotions of experiencing anti-black racism and will never claim to know that, but, words that express the death of others is just not acceptable.
I get something like from Bulk Barn.
Nomnom
Michael M Yazdani
6:18pm
Michael M Yazdani
i got it there tongue emoticon
Eric Rogers
6:19pm
Eric Rogers
Good girl.
It's so good.
Michael M Yazdani
6:19pm
Michael M Yazdani
i was there for bits & bites
Eric Rogers
6:19pm
Eric Rogers
I also really like their peanut butter drizzled popcorn
Michael M Yazdani
6:19pm
Michael M Yazdani
($1.15/100g!)
but i ended up gett those two, chocolate covered coffee beans,  and some matcha powder
Eric Rogers
6:25pm
Eric Rogers
Love those coffee beans as well
Michael M Yazdani
6:26pm
Michael M Yazdani
grin emoticon
but yeah
TBH, i never thought BLM fit in with the message of Pride
there are parallels in the struggles, but historically, and presently, black people are some of the more prominent homophobic oppressors
Eric Rogers
6:28pm
Eric Rogers
And that's why we need BLMTO. Because of generalizations like the one you just made tongue emoticon
I think the choice of having BLMTO with Pride is to show solidarity among groups who tend to experience widespread discrimination/
Michael M Yazdani
6:29pm
Michael M Yazdani
im not saying all black people are bad, and im not saying that black people are not persecuted
carding is still a thing and im strongly against it
im just worried about some of the more...vocal members of BLM and how they might treat the more flamboyant people in the parade
can you see that viewpoint?
Eric Rogers
6:31pm
Eric Rogers
No, I think it's racist.
Like that is blatantly racist.
LOL
"Because black people tend to be more homophobic than others, I am scared they will discriminate against gay people during pride"
Michael M Yazdani
6:33pm
Michael M Yazdani
im basing it purely on statistics
its anecdotal, but am i not allowed to have opinions based on my experiences?
Eric Rogers
6:35pm
Eric Rogers
Race is a social construction, there is no biological predisposition that makes black people more homophobic than any other race/culture
And based on that logic Michael, I can now say people of your race, are inherently racist. BECAUSE I EXPERIENCED YOU BEING RACIST.
Michael M Yazdani
6:36pm
Michael M Yazdani
there is no biological basis, yes
but im not talking about one or a few
(and i will agree that many persians are racist, but thats besides the point)
Eric Rogers
6:36pm
Eric Rogers
Just because you experience homophobia from lets say, 2 - 5 black people, or 20 black people for the matter, does give you the privilege to label a WHOLE RACE (millions if not billions) of people of being more homophobic than other.
That will never hold up in any argument EVER in the world LOL
Michael M Yazdani
6:36pm
Michael M Yazdani
im not talking 20 black people
im comparing all the black people i know with all the other people i know (school, community, family friends, etc) and comparing incidence of homophobic comments/behaviour
Eric Rogers
6:39pm
Eric Rogers
SO by the few people you know (in a more rural setting where homophobia is more apparent) you can say, with 100% that people of certain races are more homophobic than others?
I think what you should be saying "People who grow up in a culture of homophobia, are more likely to be homophobic"
Race has NOTHING to do with this.
Michael M Yazdani
6:39pm
Michael M Yazdani
due to cultural norms? yes
and pickering is in no way rural
south of Finch
Eric Rogers
6:40pm
Eric Rogers
Henny, compared to the city, it might as well be rural.
Michael M Yazdani
6:40pm
Michael M Yazdani
its majorly suburban with urban areas
Eric Rogers
6:41pm
Eric Rogers
Besides, why aren't you generalizing white people? Look at trump and all of his followers. By your logic I should now say "White people should be in pride because, based on anecdotal experiences, they are racist, homophobic, and misogynists.
Look at Rob Ford and his followers.
Sorry, but your logic is flawed and racist.
Just because you're entitled to your opinion, doesn't make it right.
Michael M Yazdani
6:42pm
Michael M Yazdani
what if you look outside of a caucasian-majority country
and at countries /in/ africa
yes, homophobia was intoduced by caucasian intruders, but they have held on to it and amplified it much more than any other area on the globe
take Uganda
Eric Rogers
6:44pm
Eric Rogers
Ok, so now you are saying "Uganda, majority of people are black. They are really homophobic, therefore, black people in Canada must be the same"
Michael, homophobia is learned.
It's not natural.
You just said white people introduced it, so blame white ancestors, not black people.
Michael M Yazdani
6:45pm
Michael M Yazdani
most caucasian cultures have majorly reduced homophobic sentiment
Eric Rogers
6:45pm
Eric Rogers
Like I said, race has nothing to do with this.
All my experiences of homophobia come from white people.
I'm not about to say all white people are homophobic or tend to be more homophobic.
Everyone has different lived experiences with homophobia .
I'm also going to end this conversation here because it really isn't going anywhere. I don't want to entertain ignorance or racism.