Eri7

Cedur - so what was the catalyst for you to make this decision (which I hope I can get you to revert eventually)?
Eri7 lacks motivation - Some of the smbx2 devs and my decision
Cedur - what did the devs say to you?
Eri7 lacks motivation - Its not a single one thing , I made this decision because of stuff that happened these 3-4 months
Cedur - like, did you get any negative criticism from them? Or were they just teaching you Lua and stuff?
Eri7 lacks motivation - Both
Its a long story
Cedur - it's a general observation of mine that standards of criticism by the SMBX2 "peers" have become very merciless
and that they don't fit with the needs and abilities of a common SMBX designer who grew up with 1.3.0.1 and the classics
Eri7 lacks motivation - Their criticism is mostly about improving in a way that they accept it's the right way
Cedur - They're experient on game design and programming and all that stuff themselves, but they shouldn't expect everyone else to live up to that as well
and well, there we have it. Their way is not necessarily representative for all of us.
Eri7 lacks motivation - That's why I can't continue the project
I can't be like them
40% of the project happened because of their help
Cedur - you still can tho? You're not required to follow their footsteps? They're not your only audience?
Eri7 lacks motivation - Maybe more
Without their help my project was gonna be shit that I would not want to have(edited)
They were the reason I stayed on smbx2 as long as I did
Cedur - Like, it's good that they're helping, but it's bad if they keep tearing your work apart and prescribe your direction etc
Eri7 lacks motivation - Without their help I can't stay anymore
Cedur - ultimately, if they keep forcing their Champions League standards on everyone, they'll scare everyone away
Eri7 lacks motivation - I choose to end it
Cedur - and again, you're NOT depending on their judgement
Eri7 lacks motivation - Not them
Cedur - the SMBX community is not just them
Eri7 lacks motivation - I was just tired of everything being repeated for 3 months
I am tired of acting like a dumb person because they think that they are always right and I have to accept it or I won't get their help
Cedur - in that case, you should try to be not dependent of their help
Lua is not even necessary to make a good episode
Eri7 lacks motivation - Without Luna lua I have no reason to use smbx2
Cedur - look at all of the famed episodes from times before Lua
Eri7 lacks motivation - I can use 38A instead
Cedur - and SMBX2 / PGE is already good for its improved functionalities compared to the legacy editor
the problem on your part is that you're making yourself way too dependant on public reception overall
Eri7 lacks motivation - To be completely honest most of the time I devoted to this project was a chore and I didn't have much fun
Cedur - and the problem on their part is that they're developping standards that normal citizens can't live up with
it was a chore for you bc you only worked towards pleasing others?
Eri7 lacks motivation - It was a chore because I needed to act like someone else to get better in a short amount of time , I used the smbx2 devs for my own benefit and that was to make the project beyond average but I hit a wall , they will not help me anymore and I don't have the motivation to put effort on helping myself instead
Cedur - going "beyond average" maybe wasn't the right ambition?
Eri7 lacks motivation - I am too ambitious with my plans , that's one of the things that makes me use smbx
I want to be the best but
I can't
I am not putting effort
I don't have the motivation to do that
Cedur - just by looking at the screenshots I can already tell that you've put amazingly much effort
Eri7 lacks motivation - I am just dreaming
Cedur - what other episodes have you played so far?
Eri7 lacks motivation - This effort is nothing compared to the effort that the smbx2 devs want from me to put in
Cedur - again, ignore their demands when you clearly see that they're excessive
Eri7 lacks motivation - Being fancy doesn't require an effort
Its just a lazy excuse
i cant ignore them
they are the most important thing about the project
look , i am the one at fault for thinking that i can always have shortcuts
Cedur - what is a "shortcut"
Eri7 lacks motivation - shortcut is a path that takes less efforts but can be bad depending on the situation
my situation was that i took shortcuts for my own benefit and that made the smbx2 devs angry at me because if i did not take shortcuts i was gonna be good on my own without being depended on their help(edited)
Cedur - again, have you played any classic episodes?
e.g. the featured ones?
Eri7 lacks motivation - yes but i dont want to do these episodes
i want to go beyond
i want to be unique
being average doesnt suit my ambitions
Cedur - these episodes themselves are already unique. And despite many custom graphics and gimmicks, they're what SMBX is "truly about", while SMBX2 is breaking the amount of possibilies beyond all limits
Eri7 lacks motivation - the only way that the 2.0 project can be revived is if i had somebody that could teach me luna lua in a way that i can learn it
and the smbx2 devs aren't on the same page as me
Cedur - oh and I enjoy playing these episodes a lot more than a mishmash from all video games in existence
the maglx2 episode was just cancerous to play
Eri7 lacks motivation - look , without luna lua i will just do my stuff on 38A
teascript is easier for me than luna lua
anyways
Cedur - that's why I applied for maglx3 host with a "gimmick" that produces simpler levels that don't make a compilation episode so tedious to play
and guess what, I got shitstormed for this
Eri7 lacks motivation - also to be clear, its not like i dont feel sad of this decision, right now i am feeling betrayed and very very sad, today i barely got any sleep just because of this one decision, right now i feel very stressed and i just want all of this to go away, this decision is killing me but i had to do something or else, the smbx2 devs would not know that their behavior  towards me had consequences
Cedur - I understand
Eri7 lacks motivation - their wish was for people to play their version , to create stuff in their version but i do not want to do that , i want to betray them the way that they betrayed me , it hurts so much to do that but i am tired of being an underdog that is always wrong about everything
so this is way more complex than it seems
i have different reasons to do that
its not only 1 thing
Cedur - quite a doom loop though I don't think "betraying" is the right term
Eri7 lacks motivation - yeah
but thats how i feel
Cedur - they forced you into a corner and you didn't give them resistance until now
Eri7 lacks motivation - if they did care about me then they would try to fix this problem but even tho they spend so much time trying to "fix" me they probably don't even care that i left and wasted their time trying to teach me something
so thats the end of smbx2 for me , if they just behaved a bit tiny different with me , this would not have happened(edited)
Cedur - tl;dr yeah they were inconsiderate. I understand your decision
and tl;dr SMBX2 would have the potential to attract masses of people not only for playing but also for designing, but in its current condition I don't expect it to ever have a wide audience making use of its special features.