Didache bans VirtualPreacher

[22:44] <+barabbas`> The Columbia river is close to being polluted by nuclear waste from hanford.
[22:45] <+Greylenseman> You have no concept of how much energy it takes to subtract out the orbital speed of Earth to drop tons of material into the Sun.
[22:45] <+Greylenseman> barabbas`: that is true
[22:45] <+Raven`X> That is very sad barabbas`
[22:45] <+GenghisKhan> no technologies are being "suppressed" necessarily, they just don't make financial sense for various reasons. nuclear for instance is very unattractive to operators cuz of its immense upfront costs. a lot of those are due to the stringent requirements required and the accounting of externalities
[22:45] <+Raven`X> I too live in an area affected by pollution from fossil fuels and the chemical industry.
[22:45] <+Greylenseman> close only counts in horseshoes
[22:45] <+GenghisKhan> all of that is fine, except that operators of other sources don't have to follow as such
[22:45] <+Joel> Greylenseman: i was referring to a comment Sara_Ks made, i don't think it was particularly serious but it allowed me to make the point that we should not add to the nuclear power we already have without a plan to deal with the waste
[22:46] <+GenghisKhan> the solution fo course isn't to abandon regulation but to allow proper accountability of externalities and then finance as required
[22:47] <+Greylenseman> I hope Trump restarts Yucca Mountain ... that WAS America's REAL solution ... but the DIMocrats do not understand anything but mob rule.
[22:47] <+GenghisKhan> Joel: Currently operators are able to store it onsite and include it as part of decommissioning. it really isn't a problem at all. and the most sane solution is to reprocess the high level 'waste' into new fuel
[22:48] <+Joel> yucca mountain is likely even worse than what they're currently doing
[22:48] <+GenghisKhan> Greylenseman: for most the waste issue isn't solved with a central repository tho. but the waste issue is largely overblown. the really nasty stuff can be reprocessed and the rest isn't all that nasty at all. especially when compared to fly ash ponds
[22:49] <+GenghisKhan> and of course the stuff they can't catch as fly ash and scrubbers gets sent to the atmosphere, and a typical coal plant actually spews radioactive material into the atmosphere
[22:49] <+Greylenseman> I have designed fly ash ponds, and radioactive burial sites at Savannah River Site, they paid me $105 an hour, not because I make good french fries.
[22:51] <+GenghisKhan> usually they hold and do their job; but there have been some major fly ash spills and they're quite nasty. and the truth is that anything industrial is going to have down sides. so we have to be smart about what we do and choose wisely to minimize all potential downsides
[22:52] <+Greylenseman> You can be killed with a pneumatic nail gun ... yet that is the way to do a LOT of nailing, economically, and FAST.
[22:52] <+Greylenseman> Stuff Happens
[22:53] <+Greylenseman> a claw hammer is a horrendous weapon.
[22:53] <+Greylenseman> yet, we use them.
[22:55] <+Greylenseman> Remember when Obama sid the Gulf Oil spill was the greatest ecological disaster in the history of the world? It's like dipping a sewing needle in oil, shaking it out, and putting the needle in a full bath tub.
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[23:02] <+Raven`X> Care to expand on that last thought? Greylenseman
[23:02] <+Greylenseman> it was a lie.
[23:02] <+Raven`X> How was it a lie?
[23:02] <+LittleWing`> SR22
[23:02] <+barabbas`> Tell that to the fishermen and shrimpers along the gulf coast who are still suffering the effects.
[23:03] <+Raven`X> We still don't know the full impact.
[23:03] <+Greylenseman> based on political agenda of people that worship Nature, and no concept of scale.
[23:03] <+Raven`X> o
[23:03] <+barabbas`> Raven`X: Another example of Alternative Facts from the Alternative reality of the Alt right.
[23:03] <+Raven`X> Could you please better explain what you mean by nature worship and scale?
[23:04] <+Greylenseman> Hiroshima and Nagasaki were rebuilt on to of the same land .... all things change.
[23:05] <+Raven`X> So it seems barabbas`.
[23:05] <+Greylenseman> Raven`X: I do not think you have enough background information for it to make any sense to you .... that's why people hire structural engineers, as an example, and generally do not do their own dental work.
[23:05] <+barabbas`> KellyAnn Conely really did us a favor by giving us a look behind the curtain this early into the presidency.
[23:06] <+Raven`X> Trump has babysitters.
[23:06] <+Greylenseman> who doesn't?
[23:06] <@AaronA> Trump is mad.. how long before he gets committed?
[23:06] <+Greylenseman> evidence?
[23:06] <+Greylenseman> remember .... evidence?
[23:07] <+barabbas`> Raven`X I read today that Trump isn't the author of his executive orders, they are coming from Steve and Steve. So, who really is president?
[23:07] <+Greylenseman> do you have any?
[23:07] <@AaronA> do you need evidence to have some one committed?
[23:07] <+Raven`X> Six days worth.
[23:07] <+Greylenseman> of course!
[23:07] <@AaronA> steve?
[23:07] <+Raven`X> Many twitter tantrums.
[23:08] <+Greylenseman> hahahahhha
[23:08] <+Greylenseman> you have ONE example?
[23:08] <+Raven`X> Look at the news.
[23:08] <@AaronA> the mexican president twitters
[23:08] <+Greylenseman> you have ONE example?
[23:08] <+Raven`X> Does he really expect Mexico to pay for the wall?
[23:08] <+barabbas`> No, there are numerous examples, not just one.
[23:08] <+Greylenseman> yep
[23:08] <+Raven`X> The Mexican President has said many times that they won't
[23:09] * @AaronA wonders how long before Greylenseman gets committed
[23:09] <@VirtualPreacher> it is beyond me how these people continue to cite "news" which have been utterly discredited repeatedly as if they actually trust those people
[23:09] <+Greylenseman> so, having asked twice, you produce only fantasy paranoia, and no facts ...... gotcha!
[23:09] <+Raven`X> So... Trump is going to dry hump his supporters while wasting tax payer dollars
[23:09] <+barabbas`> He does, but no one else does. I thought his one answer was righteous. Mexico will pay for the wall out of funds that we would send to Mexico but won't. In other words, the taxpayers will pay for it, but Mexico will get the credit and Trumps tweets will be validated.
[23:10] <@AaronA> it is beyond me how sane people can support Trump and his stupidity! Perhaps the supporters are from the same loony bin
[23:10] <+Greylenseman> Raven`X: Your premise is based on ignorant, vulgar, irrelevant, paranoid fantasy.
[23:10] <+Greylenseman> you too,m AaronA
[23:10] <@AaronA> Greylenseman behave or you will be committed
[23:10] <+barabbas`> AaronA Bingo, you hit the nail on the head. Problem is we don't have enough beds in all the looney bins in the country to house them all.
[23:11] <+Raven`X> I don't really give a damn what you think of me Greylenseman. You are an old pathetic bigot trying pathetically to hang on to the old ways.
[23:11] <@VirtualPreacher> the difference is AaronA was joking.
[23:11] <+barabbas`> Was he, or was this more doublethink?
[23:11] <@VirtualPreacher> but I am glad all the hypocrite "compassionate left" has been exposed as actually being hateful and nasty to the bone.
[23:11] <+barabbas`> Or, that would be triplethink.
[23:12] <+Greylenseman> THAT WAS A STATEMENT OF SOMEONE WHO BELIEVES IN MOB RULE, AaronA, undoubetedly you were a Hillary supporter.
[23:12] <@AaronA> VirtualPreacher looking at it from a non American view and the damage that Trump will do, let me assure you that I was not joking
[23:12] <+LittleWing`> VirtualPreacher: I'm getting that from both sides
[23:12] <@VirtualPreacher> i've never seen so much vitriol poured out toward people over their political views.
[23:12] <+barabbas`> AaronA; I heard the same thing from a friend who is managing editor of the international division of DPA, German news service.
[23:12] <@VirtualPreacher> AaronA then if you were serious thats very sad. maybe you can back up your remarks with some facts
[23:13] <+Greylenseman> the liberals were exposed by Obama, believeing it was safe to tell the truth about who, as a class, they really are.
[23:13] <+DoctorMirabilis> Why is it typical to speak of entire groups with such broad, sweeping generalizations?
[23:13] <+Raven`X> If anything.... Obama's presidency exposed just how entrenched racism is in America.
[23:14] <@AaronA> Greylenseman undoubtedly I am not a Hillary supporter.. Which ever way the US public voted they were going to get unqualified people as President and advisers.. The rule thast I live by is God rules and sets up over the kingdom of men whomsoever He chooses even the BASEST of men
[23:14] <@VirtualPreacher> DoctorMirabilis that is usually done when people do not have any actual facts to present to support their arguments so it is easier for them to generalize.
[23:14] <+Greylenseman> AaronA: God chose Hitler and Pol Pot?
[23:14] <+DoctorMirabilis> VirtualPreacher, I reckon you might be entirely right.
[23:15] <+barabbas`> Raven`X: I don't think racism is as entrenched as it once was. Obama spoke about this as well. Things aren't as bad as when he was a kid. Not that they are great now, but they are better than they were and are getting better, or were until Trump came on the scene. Now we may be going backwards.
[23:15] * @VirtualPreacher waits for the facts while listening to the cricket symphony
[23:15] <@AaronA> VirtualPreacher THE WORLD VIEW GIVES THE OPINION..  I don't need to give facts.. the US public have to put up with an unqualifies president.. That is the fear that is in the world
[23:16] <+Greylenseman> WOW!
[23:16] <@VirtualPreacher> AaronA "i dont need to give facts" lol
[23:16] <@AaronA> Greylenseman Yes - Re34ad your Bible and understand why
[23:16] <+Greylenseman> a dangerous person ... to himself
[23:16] <@AaronA> VirtualPreacher we try to discourage lolling about in the channel
[23:16] <+Greylenseman> "we"?
[23:16] <+barabbas`> AaronA; Thats the same thing my friend has said. Being an international editor, he has his fingers on the pulse of the world, not just the USA.
[23:16] <@AaronA> Greylenseman Yes - Read your Bible and understand why
[23:17] <+Greylenseman> please educate me, AaronA
[23:17] <+Raven`X> Perhaps barabbas`.
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[23:18] <+barabbas`> Raven`X I think the reason racism seems so prevelant is where it is localized or focused, mostly inner cities and between police and the public.
[23:18] <@AaronA> Greylenseman unfortunately the JW changed their idea on Israel in 1934.,..   Perhaps they covered that point up by withdrawing all the books that mentioned their
previous view and you missed the point
[23:18] <@VirtualPreacher> pulse of the world indeed. "look! all of these zombies consuming state controlled media think donald trump is the end of the world it must be true". kindof like bbc pushing the narrative that anyone that voted for brexit is a racist xenophobe nazi lol
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[23:18] <+Greylenseman> How many Chemistry books do you have from 1934, AaronA?
[23:19] <+Raven`X> There is the south. West Virginia isn't exactly the south... but the racism here is rampant.
[23:19] <@AaronA> VirtualPreacher you miss out on so much my friend... read a bit more
[23:19] <@VirtualPreacher> AaronA well from the guy that says "I dont need to back up my claims with facts" thats an interesting admonition.
[23:19] <+barabbas`> VirtualPreacher I guess you missed the part about him being the editor of the International version of the DPA. The DPA is the german equilivant to Reuters or AP. But I imagine you believe Reuters and AP to be liars as well.
[23:19] <+Greylenseman> West Virginia is a Dimocrat bastion ... of COURSE there is rampant racism.
[23:20] <+Raven`X> No Greylenseman.
[23:20] <@VirtualPreacher> barabbas` "pulse of the world" lol
[23:20] <+Raven`X> It is full of republicans.
[23:20] <+Greylenseman> there is in EVERY city and state Dimocrat controlled.
[23:20] <@AaronA> Greylenseman God hasn't changed but the JW certainly has changed their view point.. and it has nothing to do with getting closer to the light which JW's misapply
[23:20] <+Raven`X> And you are not using the correct spelling.
[23:20] <@VirtualPreacher> as I said, kindof like bbc pushing the narrative that anyone that voted for brexit is a racist xenophobe nazi
[23:20] <+Greylenseman> AaronA: That I can agree with.
[23:20] <+Greylenseman> Raven`X: You don't comprehend ANYTHING, do you?
[23:21] <+barabbas`> VirtualPreacher Yeah, because he takes reports from all over the world, not just the US. Ergo, he has access to more data from all countries. So, the pulse of the world is an apt and accurate description.
[23:21] <@AaronA> VirtualPreacher Britain had and has no place in Europe.. Bible prophecy says so
[23:21] <+Greylenseman> it duz?
[23:21] <@VirtualPreacher> barabbas` yes. pulse of the world = opinions of populations saturated by state controlled media propoganda.
[23:21] <+Greylenseman> where?
[23:22] <+Raven`X> https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/f7/72/bc/f772bc3e405cd8453399290b88e0c44e.jpg
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[23:22] <+Greylenseman> you are living in a fantasy world, AaronA.
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[23:22] <+barabbas`> What do you mean by state controlled media? He isn't controlled by the state.
[23:22] <+Greylenseman> "he"?
[23:22] <@AaronA> VirtualPreacher British press is not state controlled media and neither is German ItaLIAN aUSTRALIAN ETC.. SO YOU REALLY NEED TO RETRACT THAT WRONG STATEMENT
[23:23] <+Raven`X> Trump will soon have a state controlled media.
[23:23] <+Greylenseman> he will?
[23:23] <@VirtualPreacher> AaronA LOL
[23:23] <+Raven`X> It is no coincidence that 1984 is suddenly a best seller
[23:23] <+barabbas`> I was hoping he had some evidence that all media is state controlled. This sounds more like the ramblings of the paranoid.
[23:23] <@AaronA> Greylenseman actually I am not unless you say that the Bible is a fantasy book and God's purpose is a fantasy
[23:23] <+Greylenseman> CNN is already the "Clinton News Newwork".
[23:23] <+Raven`X> Strawman
[23:23] <+Greylenseman> Network
[23:24] <@AaronA> VirtualPreacher lol is usually the excuse that an illinformed person uses
[23:24] <@VirtualPreacher> also the response to absurd claims like bbc is not state controlled media
[23:24] <+Greylenseman> Ummm... where does the BBC get it's money, bake sales?
[23:24] <+barabbas`> LOL or laughter is also a defense mechanism we employ when we are taken out of our comfort zone with truths that cause us some consternation.
[23:25] <@VirtualPreacher> barabbas` it is also a response when someone makes a ridiculous comment that is hilarious.
[23:25] <@VirtualPreacher> such as "bbc is not state controlled media!" LOL
[23:25] <+Raven`X> Isn't BBC a more trusted source of news than any American news company?
[23:25] <@AaronA> VirtualPreacher BBC is not the only UK media.. please try not to show how much you don't know.. try to act with some knowledge!!!!
[23:26] <@AaronA> Raven`X generally
[23:26] <@VirtualPreacher> never said it was AaronA. maybe you should pay attention.
[23:26] <+barabbas`> VirtualPreacher not usually. In that case a rebuttal with some evidence would be appropriate. The paranoid mind, being in a state of flight with no where to do, often will resort to hiding its fear behind laughter.
[23:26] <@VirtualPreacher> kindof like bbc pushing the narrative that anyone that voted for brexit is a racist xenophobe nazi lol<-------------my specific reference to BBC
[23:26] <+Greylenseman> Raven`X: Yes it is... but all journalism is filtered through approved agendas.
[23:26] <@VirtualPreacher> barabbas` next personal attack you go to the bench.
[23:26] <@VirtualPreacher> i'm tired of your nasty hateful name calling
[23:27] <+Raven`X> barabbas` isn't the only one slinging personal attacks.
[23:27] <@AaronA> VirtualPreacher you are the mother of personal attacks...
[23:27] <+barabbas`> I learned this in some of the classes I took when dealing with distressed kids in school.
[23:27] <@VirtualPreacher> AaronA name one
[23:27] <@AaronA> NOW BEST THESE COMMENTS CEASE
[23:27] * +barabbas` is moving on
[23:27] <+Greylenseman> barabbas`: please tell me YOU are not a school teacher ...
[23:27] <@VirtualPreacher> says the guy that calls the president of the united states "stupid" and those that support him "loons" lol
[23:28] <@AaronA> thank you barabbas` - I suggest that we all move on from this
[23:28] <+Raven`X> Trump is a moron.
[23:28] <@AaronA> VirtualPreacher move on..
[23:28] <+Greylenseman> how so?
[23:29] <+Raven`X> I have placed Greylenseman back on ignore. Nothing he says is worth consideration.
[23:29] <@VirtualPreacher> some fun light reading:     http://www.mintpressnews.com/people-finally-realizing-bbc-establishment-mouthpiece/216290/
[23:30] <+Greylenseman> How is a man who beat out a carreer politician who wanted to be Mob Boss for over 40 years, and mastered four professions, became a self mad multi-billionaire, and became President and the most powerful man in the world ON HIS FIRST TRY ... a moron, Raven`X?
[23:30] <+Greylenseman> fingers in your ears?
[23:30] * +barabbas` remembers all the nasty, condescending, insulting things that liberals have been called in here lately and is amused that someone would think stupid and loon...
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[23:31] <@AaronA> VirtualPreacher you were instructed to move on.. NOW DO SO
[23:31] <+Greylenseman> can an op boot an op?
[23:31] <@VirtualPreacher> your high horse looks a bit wobbly there
[23:31] <@AaronA> Greylenseman watch mre
[23:31] <+Greylenseman> so, who will be fastest on the draw?
[23:31] <@AaronA> Greylenseman watch me, if I have to I will... and I have done it before
[23:32] <@AaronA> Greylenseman move on or you will go
[23:32] <+Greylenseman> It's High Noon, in Dodge City ....
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[23:35] <+Raven`X> Off to watch The Wall
[23:35] <@AaronA> I was just as guilty as anyone for escalating it but it was time to stop.. This is a Christian channel not a political one
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[23:36] <+Raven`X> Welcome to the fourth reich.
[23:37] <@AaronA> bbl
[23:37] <+Raven`X> yep, me too.
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[23:41] <@EricofAZ> Hey mugz, let me know when you're back
[23:48] <+mugz-havingasmoke> soon as the Orgeng Utah game is settled :) starting second half soon
[23:49] <+mugz-havingasmoke> Trump to terminate funding to UN agencies that give full membership to Palestinian Authority - https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/25/us/politics/united-nations-trump-administration.html
[23:49] <+mugz-havingasmoke> :)
[23:49] <+mugz-havingasmoke> Go Trump!
[23:52] <@EricofAZ> interesting.  Go Trump!
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[23:53] <@EricofAZ> King Omry was not well known in the OT.  He was there, just kind of a nothing king.  But he was the only king with strong foreign policy that got Assyria to actually pay tribute to Israel.
[23:53] <@EricofAZ> Kind David, on the other hand was well known in the OT and hardly referenced in history.  Because.... he was all about internal policy rather than Omry's foreign policy.
[23:54] <@EricofAZ> It is sad that USA has to do this, but we need internal policy now over foreign policy.
[23:54] <@EricofAZ> $20 trillion debt means we are not the super power that we thought we were.  Or... we are and we did it wrong.
[23:55] <@EricofAZ> Either way, time for change.
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[23:57] <@VirtualPreacher> that is by design. that is what these people that hate trump with this bizarre zealous seething hatred are not understanding. they do not understand how they have been lied to and manipulated and have been led to invite not only their own destruction but that of the country itself.
[23:57] <@AaronA> mugz smoking is an elf azard
[23:58] <@AaronA> VirtualPreacher you8 were told to move on.. NOW DO SO
[23:58] <@AaronA> this is NOT a political channel
[23:58] <@VirtualPreacher> are you even remotely serious
[23:58] <+eelated> stfu
[23:59] * AaronA sets mode: -o VirtualPreacher
[23:59] <+VirtualPreacher> do you see the conversation occuring about this and you jump down *my* throat for responding to what is being said?
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[00:00] <@AaronA> mugz you too, move on from politics
[00:01] <@EricofAZ> Oh, sorry for the posts.  Aaron, you are right, this is not a political channel.  However, it is something that folks seem to want to talk about and Omry and David had polar opposites.  I thought it interesting about those two kings.
[00:01] <@AaronA> EricofAZ you were not here when it got out of hand.. unfortunately I started to join in
[00:02] <@AaronA> inmsults were flowing freely
[00:03] <@EricofAZ> it usually gets out of hand with muslim stuff around this time of night.
[00:03] <@AaronA> yes... this was on politics though and that is always dangerous
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[00:04] <@EricofAZ> hello SJ, long time no see
[00:04] <@EricofAZ> hope you are well
[00:04] <@AaronA> S|J_McPherson is back... mrlbourne is too hot
[00:05] <@S|J_McPherson> hello EricofAZ
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[00:07] <@AaronA> EricofAZ generally politics is fine vit just got out of   hand
[00:07] <@[e]> hmmmmm