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  1. RingRush - 02/09/2016
  2. couldn't get another kong into a bblast course even with a frame perfect autotag
  3. GloriousLiar - 02/09/2016
  4. other kongs can't go in the barrels anyways once you're in the course
  5. GloriousLiar - 02/09/2016
  6. RR or anyone else, can you get rid of try again text after gaining control without selecting an option?
  7. markusman64ds 🐵 - 02/09/2016
  8. maybe enter a loading zone?
  9. instrument maybe
  10. GloriousLiar - 02/09/2016
  11. Without either of those things
  12. Assume no gun or instrument, no loading zones
  13. February 10, 2016
  14. GloriousLiar - 02/10/2016
  15. the banana is actually real in the "you lose" try again cutscene in the beetle race
  16. also you can crouch slide off the rail near the bottom of the slippery part and get here
  17.  
  18. theballaam96 - 02/10/2016
  19. It's a shame you can't access it without pressing A or B
  20. Or without the assistance of L to Levitate
  21. February 12, 2016
  22. RingRush - 02/12/2016
  23. I'm sure a lot of people don't know this, but many, many ledge clips absolutely require c-up (or something similar like camera). If you cancel your c-up too early you'll be forced out of the wall
  24. XavierR221 - 02/12/2016
  25. The fact that you must end it a little bit later is really interesting
  26. Mouse - 02/12/2016
  27. i always though the c-up was just used to cancel momentum, that's interesting. Any idea if it has somehting to do with the STVW incorrect adding mechanic?
  28. RingRush - 02/12/2016
  29. I'm pretty sure it has more to do with c-up stopping you from being pushed out of the wall by locking your x/z coordinate
  30. Isotarge - 02/12/2016
  31. Yeah from my testing it'd be more to do with locking XZ
  32. I tried locking angle over 4095 and couldn't walk through vertical walls on land
  33. Mouse - 02/12/2016
  34. dang
  35. Tiffanyjane - 02/12/2016
  36. As far as B. Locker skips go, Chunky's Primate Punch has ~the same range as Lanky's combo attack.
  37. xHyP3rShAd0wS3pH1r0pHx - 02/12/2016
  38. hi all, long time viewer here. just wanna say you guys rock! i did an any% run if anyone wants to check it out, i stopped halfway through because I got bored though
  39. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aO7g3xp12E
  40. YouTube
  41. RingRush
  42. dead 1xA 40BP wip
  43.  
  44.  
  45. screw you discord
  46. February 14, 2016
  47. Mouse - 02/14/2016
  48. Aztec Beetle Race LZ is not active until gongs are hit
  49. RingRush - 02/14/2016
  50. i'm pretty sure its also not active unless you are in a barrel move (it is hecking if you are mini tiny, but rockettiny also works)
  51. Mouse - 02/14/2016
  52. nope you can hit the LZ without a barrel move
  53. i forced skew and hit the bottom of the LZ
  54. RingRush - 02/14/2016
  55. I remember super speeding through there and not hitting it, maybe I wasn't testing with tiny
  56. Mouse - 02/14/2016
  57. You can overlap failing the vulture race with feeding the totem pole. If the totem CS starts first, the retry prompt will override the CS and shorten it but the 5DT switches will still appear (definitely faster). If the retry appears before the totem CS (peanut is in flight as the retry appears), the 5DT CS plays all the way through and you are prompted to retry afterwards. Funnily enough, the vulture's text box is still visible during that CS(edited)
  58. hipstur - 02/14/2016
  59. here is the beanstalk cutscene cancel RR was talking about
  60. also don't know how well know this is
  61. you don't run out of crystals if you're in first person as mini monkey, probably the same with strong kong and hunky chunky as well
  62. Adam Whitmore - 02/14/2016
  63. that video froze and i cant even tell whats going on
  64. DigitalVortex - 02/14/2016
  65. its encoded poorly by YouTube
  66. Basically only sound plays. But we should all know whats happening based on sound alone right?
  67. Adam Whitmore - 02/14/2016
  68. i guess so
  69. hipstur - 02/14/2016
  70. https://www.dropbox.com/s/e9p1x19vl1inlp7/vlc-record-2016-02-14-05h19m18s-DK64101%20%28143%29.mp4-.mp4?dl=0
  71. Dropbox
  72. vlc-record-2016-02-14-05h19m18s-DK64101 (143).mp4-.mp4
  73. Shared with Dropbox
  74. if that won't work i give up
  75. DigitalVortex - 02/14/2016
  76. it works
  77. Ill upload this to my host as well just in case
  78. DigitalVortex - 02/14/2016
  79. http://f.divtx.in/Hipstur%20Beanstalk%20Cancel.mp4
  80. Hipstur Beanstalk Cancel
  81. http://f.divtx.in
  82. RingRush - 02/14/2016
  83. I suppose I should post this here since it is documentation for a jillion tricks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nIfy8LO054
  84. YouTube
  85. RingRush
  86. Donkey Kong 64 101% "LOTAD" in 4:42:08
  87.  
  88.  
  89. February 15, 2016
  90. Znernicus - 02/15/2016
  91. Chunky can do the caves early ledge grab from the area you would moonkick. Requires orange lag
  92. I havent tried it with the rock in place though, so maybe doesn't count as a real caves early method
  93. Kiwikiller67 - 02/15/2016
  94. I had tried that at one point with skid jumping and couldnt ever get it, cool to know it works
  95. Znernicus - 02/15/2016
  96. nvm it does not require oranges
  97. it's just harder
  98. Adam Whitmore - 02/15/2016
  99. that would be cool if we show this run out in the marathon
  100. theballaam96 - 02/15/2016
  101. Tagging Tiny near the Cactus prior to entering the 5DS in NLE is around 2-3 seconds faster than tagging her near the 5DS.
  102. Connor75 - 02/15/2016
  103. did anybody actually ever tag her by the 5DS?
  104. theballaam96 - 02/15/2016
  105. No, but Outlaw asked about it during TJ's stream earlier, so I decided to investigate.
  106. markusman64ds 🐵 - 02/15/2016
  107. TJ just shot two monkey heads at once in matching game
  108. rip lotad
  109. RingRush - 02/15/2016
  110. what does that mean "two at once"
  111. like he could match either and it would count?
  112. markusman64ds 🐵 - 02/15/2016
  113. Don't really remember the result of it but he shot between two heads and both were spinning
  114. they may have been different colours but i forget
  115. *sounds
  116. Outlaw - 02/15/2016
  117. they were different heads, hold on
  118. @RingRush http://www.twitch.tv/tiffanyfruit/v/45546538?t=0h38m00s
  119. Twitch
  120. Tiffanyfruit
  121.  
  122. RingRush - 02/15/2016
  123. nice so that triggered the match too
  124. good stuff
  125. its emu so take it with a grain of salt
  126. but I'm getting a 1/6 of a second window for isg
  127. Bismuth - 02/15/2016
  128. seems fair to me
  129. from personal experience it works between 2.05 and 2.2 on the timer
  130. 2.2 might be too late
  131. EmoArbiter - 02/15/2016
  132. yeah VC can usually go between 1.9 and 2.1ish
  133. Bismuth - 02/15/2016
  134. does that mean VC has 150 ms of input lag confirmed
  135. EmoArbiter - 02/15/2016
  136. didn't 2dos say 100ms?
  137. Connor75 - 02/15/2016
  138. i press A at 1.8 on VC lol
  139. Kiwikiller67 - 02/15/2016
  140. I do at 1.9
  141. Tiffanyjane - 02/15/2016
  142. I've always done 1.9
  143. markusman64ds 🐵 - 02/15/2016
  144. and that shows that input lag depends on the tv i guess
  145. OpieOP
  146. Connor75 - 02/15/2016
  147. or I have super slow reflexes
  148. XavierR221 - 02/15/2016
  149. Actually I never noticed the input lag.... Don't know why
  150. ShadowLinky - 02/15/2016
  151. Hearing controller noises makes the delay very noticeable
  152. XavierR221 - 02/15/2016
  153. I wait I just didn't noticed what you guys were talking about, yeah, delay sucks(edited)
  154. February 16, 2016
  155. GloriousLiar - 02/16/2016
  156. 2.1 B O Y S
  157. Mouse - 02/16/2016
  158. castle LZ isn't tied to the cannon model, it's only active if the key 5 turned in flag is active
  159. markusman64ds 🐵 - 02/16/2016
  160. So land in the crown with the cannon open and you're in?
  161. Isotarge - 02/16/2016
  162. no
  163. Mouse - 02/16/2016
  164. no the crown has nothing to do with it
  165. the LZ is on the cannon island but the cannon's model has nothing to do with it
  166. in other words, I set and key 5 turned, spawned the cannon, unset the flag, the cannon remains loaded but the LZ is inactive
  167. theballaam96 - 02/16/2016
  168. Therefore Full Castle Lobby Early is impossible then?
  169. Discounting the post-playthrough method
  170. Mouse - 02/16/2016
  171. unless we find a method of remotely setting flags, seems like it
  172. theballaam96 - 02/16/2016
  173. Or I guess we find some other way to enter the Key 5 turn in flag sequence
  174. Mouse - 02/16/2016
  175. that's what i said lol
  176. the CS that plays with the rock exploding isn't important
  177. when you load dk isles, the game checks what flags are set. if key 5 turned in is active, then the rock is gone, cannon is loaded, and the LZ is active
  178. Isotarge - 02/16/2016
  179. the cannon wouldn't even work during the boulder smash cs lmao
  180. Mouse - 02/16/2016
  181. so even if you set key 5 turned in and then just go to the cannon, it doesnt work yet
  182. theballaam96 - 02/16/2016
  183. I thought you meant finding another way to set the Key 5 flag (like how you can smash the Ice Shield which holds Chunky's GB in Caves either by collecting Chunky's GB or by doing it the intende way)
  184. Mouse - 02/16/2016
  185. you have to reload dk isle
  186. markusman64ds 🐵 - 02/16/2016
  187. If you activate a key turn in without the key will it set the flag?
  188. Tiffanyjane - 02/16/2016
  189. isn't that the same as ISG Key 1/Key 2?
  190. markusman64ds 🐵 - 02/16/2016
  191. I suppose
  192. I guess its those cutscenes that flag the lobby opening
  193. And not the k lumsy cutscene?
  194. Er what happens if you turn in key 1/2 after isg opening the lobbies?
  195. Tiffanyjane - 02/16/2016
  196. you can't
  197. the lock is gone and will not allow you to turn in the key(s)
  198. markusman64ds 🐵 - 02/16/2016
  199. So turn in flags open the lobby and remove the lock
  200. Do they remove the key?
  201. From the bosses
  202. GloriousLiar - 02/16/2016
  203. Like do you get auto kickout?
  204. markusman64ds 🐵 - 02/16/2016
  205. Yeah
  206. Oh i just got a terrible meme idea
  207. Max collectables minimum turn-ins
  208. So like no buying with coins, feeding scoff, or turning in keys or blueprints
  209. Isotarge - 02/16/2016
  210. You can still enter T&S, beat the boss and pickup the key with the Key turned flag set
  211. markusman64ds 🐵 - 02/16/2016
  212. Does the door have a checkmark?
  213. GloriousLiar - 02/16/2016
  214. Key turned is independent of key acquired
  215. Isotarge - 02/16/2016
  216. No
  217. Exchord - 02/16/2016
  218. there is no loading zone for castle lobby
  219. it's the cannon cutscene that causes the fadeout(edited)
  220. if you don't believe me, freeze the cutscene value at 19 when you enter dk isles for the first time
  221. you will be sent to castle lobby even though you're standing in front of the training grounds loading zone
  222. also, the cs with the rock exploding (cs 17) is actually pretty important because it sets the key 5 turned in flag
  223. it works just like the open aztec cutscene... if it was possible to trigger cs 17 with ISG or something, that would mean castle early(edited)
  224. Mouse - 02/16/2016
  225. do all lobby opening CS's set the key turned in flag?
  226. Exchord - 02/16/2016
  227. I know that is true for key 1, 2 and 5 for sure
  228. haven't tested the other keys
  229. oh and opening japes of course
  230. markusman64ds 🐵 - 02/16/2016
  231. so if ISG factory early was found that would be mad jack skip?
  232. wat
  233. Exchord - 02/16/2016
  234. no because factory is opened with key 2
  235. markusman64ds 🐵 - 02/16/2016
  236. oh right lol
  237. Mouse - 02/16/2016
  238. okay so then physically in the game what I meant to say is that the CS trigger is not tied to the cannon
  239. rather than the LZ
  240. the cannon can exist without the trigger to send you to castle lobby. that CS trigger is only active if the key 5 turned in flag is set. and exchord says this happens during the klumsy rock blow CS
  241. Exchord - 02/16/2016
  242. yeah as soon as that cs ends
  243. if you were to use the cannon during the rock blow cutscene, I doubt it would actually work based on what you said(edited)
  244. theballaam96 - 02/16/2016
  245. Is it just the Wahay cutscene which sets Key 3 and 8 since those don't produce further cutscenes in some cases
  246. Mouse - 02/16/2016
  247. not sure. i didn't investigate those
  248. February 17, 2016
  249. RingRush - 02/17/2016
  250. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw_KAGG8iac going back and posting this here since I realize it shows a new way to get to w4
  251. YouTube
  252. RingRush
  253. mmm
  254.  
  255.  
  256. Bismuth - 02/17/2016
  257. 1-jump DK guitar skip is possible(edited)
  258. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k4PuXtfebs&t=4m40s
  259. YouTube
  260. Bismuth
  261. All Green Warps in 27:40
  262.  
  263.  
  264. XavierR221 - 02/17/2016
  265. That was smooth
  266. Bismuth - 02/17/2016
  267. you can get squawks text for battle crowns by sliding off something that overlooks it (like a tree)
  268. this is similar to tagging W1 by sliding off the pipe on freeing chunky
  269. in other words - this is further confirmation that the game treats you as being on the ground below briefly as you slide off something, so you will tag warps and do whatever you could do by standing on that area otherwise, except you're sliding so you can't really perform any meaningful action (like crouching/taking a warp/activating the crown)(edited)
  270. markusman64ds 🐵 - 02/17/2016
  271. I wonder if you could enter loading zones like that
  272. GloriousLiar - 02/17/2016
  273. you can also do that on the pipe above low W4 in factory
  274. February 18, 2016
  275. Bismuth - 02/18/2016
  276. pressing C-left/right and C-up at the same time will turn your first person view about 35º (and your kong, too)
  277. you can make an almost full rotation by repeating it 10 times(edited)
  278. XavierR221 - 02/18/2016
  279. Oh wow goodbye VC for this
  280. EmoArbiter - 02/18/2016
  281. VC can do it, just map your C buttons
  282. Mouse - 02/18/2016
  283. ^
  284. Adam Whitmore - 02/18/2016
  285. you can also corrupt the game by activating so much spotlights(edited)
  286. after you do that the enemies turn into spotlights
  287. DigitalVortex - 02/18/2016
  288. You can overflow DK64? nice
  289. Kappa
  290. Now we can collect all the pokemon
  291. GloriousLiar - 02/18/2016
  292. if you haven't yet, see ringrush's video "Tiny's In Their Natural Habitat"
  293. Isotarge - 02/18/2016
  294. I can confirm what Adam is saying, excessive spotlight duping is enough to activate symptoms similar to feather corruption with kongs other than tiny
  295. markusman64ds 🐵 - 02/18/2016
  296.  
  297. https://twitter.com/Isotarge/status/700327282422886400
  298. Isotarge@Isotarge
  299. https://t.co/3vF7WF8jDt
  300. Isotarge - 02/18/2016
  301. http://www.twitch.tv/isotarge/v/47173882
  302. Twitch
  303. Isotarge
  304.  
  305. markusman64ds 🐵 - 02/18/2016
  306. did you find out what causes that?
  307. Isotarge - 02/18/2016
  308. yeah it was a fly from dk's idle animation
  309. getting corrupted like a beaver etc
  310. markusman64ds 🐵 - 02/18/2016
  311. LOL
  312. now I wonder what happens with lanky's juggling animation or chunky's butterflies
  313. Isotarge - 02/18/2016
  314. I'm not sure I want to know
  315. markusman64ds 🐵 - 02/18/2016
  316. an army of lankys
  317. ascending to the heavens
  318. February 21, 2016
  319. Kiwikiller67 - 02/21/2016
  320. http://www.twitch.tv/kiwikiller67/v/48384236 Worst possible Factory BBB on VC
  321. Twitch
  322. Kiwikiller67
  323.  
  324. XavierR221 - 02/21/2016
  325. slow% ?
  326. Adam Whitmore - 02/21/2016
  327. have you ever done a quick shot on the first slot kiwi?
  328. Kiwikiller67 - 02/21/2016
  329. only on n64
  330. i've never gotten it on vc
  331. theballaam96 - 02/21/2016
  332. What's the worst time possible on N64?
  333. Kiwikiller67 - 02/21/2016
  334. without getting the instant hits it should be the same
  335. but I've never been able to get an instant hit on vc
  336. February 22, 2016
  337. hipstur - 02/22/2016
  338. the worst time possible on mech fish is so bad that you fail, but still hit the final target after it's ran down to 0, and get the GB
  339. that's the worst you can do without failing
  340. February 26, 2016
  341. markusman64ds 🐵 - 02/26/2016
  342. DK can clip through the peanut switch by fungi lobby trying to switch kick
  343. February 27, 2016
  344. Mouse - 02/27/2016
  345. gb is not grabbable correct?
  346. markusman64ds 🐵 - 02/27/2016
  347. well its a diddy gb so
  348. OpieOP
  349. Mouse - 02/27/2016
  350. That doesn't mean much lol
  351. February 28, 2016
  352. Connor75 - 02/28/2016
  353. just gonna leave this here https://gyazo.com/2c177db5fe3142944764c9f3948f9ccd
  354. Gyazo
  355. Gyazo
  356. XavierR221 - 02/28/2016
  357. that was nice to watch
  358. Connor75 - 02/28/2016
  359. here's the whole minigame, please ignore the parts where I missed nearly every single beaver http://www.twitch.tv/connor75/v/51291382
  360. Twitch
  361. Connor75
  362.  
  363. GloriousLiar - 02/28/2016
  364. the gb in the lanky beetle race is in the ceiling and it is real
  365. theballaam96 - 02/28/2016
  366. Collision detection in Bonus Barrels doesn't exist seemingly (EDIT: with Pause Cancel). For instance: You cannot win Kremling Kosh as you cannot hit the Kremlings spawned after you start Pause Cancel (Those spawned before can be hit during Pause Cancel). Another example is that Minecart Mayhem is an auto-win as you cannot hit the minecarts(edited)
  367. RingRush - 02/28/2016
  368. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyPRY58rRwo
  369. YouTube
  370. RingRush
  371. Caves Beetle Race Redux
  372.  
  373.  
  374. markusman64ds 🐵 - 02/28/2016
  375. right after you use lanky's aerial during sprint you can use b moves on the ground for a brief time (1 frame?)(edited)
  376. you can chain it too by jumping out of the ground attack
  377. lanky can also slide forward on slopes in beetle race
  378. Bismuth - 02/28/2016
  379. yeah I was messing around with that too
  380. I tried sliding across the entire beginning but it's really hard to keep it going
  381. Caves beetle race skip on console
  382. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUO5dBxabug&feature=youtu.be
  383. YouTube
  384. Bismuth
  385. Caves Beetle Race skip
  386.  
  387.  
  388. markusman64ds 🐵 - 02/28/2016
  389. for those who don't want the whole thing https://youtu.be/wUO5dBxabug?t=13m37s
  390. YouTube
  391. Bismuth
  392. Caves Beetle Race skip
  393.  
  394.  
  395. February 29, 2016
  396. theballaam96 - 02/29/2016
  397. If you get prompted to restart a minigame when Pause Cancel is active, you lose Pause Cancel and cannot re-enter it without re-performing the original glitch
  398. theballaam96 - 02/29/2016
  399. All the stuff to do with activating Pause Cancel during mini-games (Whether it's an auto-win, auto-fail or a crash etc.) [All the Bonus Barrel stuff starts 1 minute in] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q82VxuPlrQ#t=1m.278s(edited)
  400. YouTube
  401. theballaam96
  402. Pause Cancel and Bonus Barrels | Donkey Kong 64 Glitch
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