M40 Mafia Talk Night 2 Day 2

<TLtimelord> Alrighty so who's our kill target
<megar> i'll decide when I wake up
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<TLtimelord> Sounds good lmao
<Uzendayo> Maybe ShadowstarX
Helmet is going after him right now
sorry
maybe helmet
he's going after SS
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<TLtimelord> And why do we want to keep SSX alive
<Shroom> and why do we wanna keep thg1 alive?
<TLtimelord> idk he's kinda funny while he's alive but fucking obnoxious while dead
<Shroom> try to get him lynched
Mosaic's list doesn't say much
he's 90% sure to be miller
as for now, I'd kill Danny ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<Shroom> well, nevermind
frankly, I give DPWM credit to be the private claimer
I'd prefer killing Doesntpostverymuch
anyway
is there any chance to save mega
I kinda need more people online ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<megar> it seems like I'm safe for now
also, we want to keep thg1 alive because he's the miller
otherwise i wouldn't still have cardflipped red
<Shroom> https://pastebin.com/H1qSMsdf a draft to responding Mosaic's list
@megar
right then
<Shroom> well then let's post it
<megar> for me
hold on
for my one mentioned that we were having a discussion about it on the Discord
<Shroom> well I messed up
<megar> oh well
I'll clarify it myself
no big deal
<Shroom> I posted from the wrong tab lmao
<megar> lmao whoops
<Shroom> repurted
that being said, SHOULD we try going for the person who could be the claimer
<megar> no, too risky
unless you mean kill them tonight
that'd be better
<Shroom> yes, that
<megar> but unless we can get ZM to reveal who
I doubt we'll get them
I don't really suspect anyone rn
<Shroom> well if he hit a lucky guess then ZM will know that the claimer was legit
and then what
accusing him of "you were just waiting for the very first blue to die" would be too far-fetched, especially since the town would then wait for the real claimer to reveal
<megar> yeah
let's hold off and just kill someone who is a decent player for now
<Shroom> so e.g. Danny
<megar> hmm
nah, not yet
I wanna say timelord
for two reasons, actually
1) he's decently competent
<Shroom> especially since he's maf dude
xd
<megar> LMAO SHIT
I FORGOT IT WAS MORE THAN JUST US TWO
WHOOPS
that's what happens when you get minimal sleep
ok yeah get danny
xd
<Shroom> also we should rather consort DPVM
@Uzendayo
<Sanct> what happened while I was not here
<megar> I forgot the Mafia was more than just me and Shroom
but otherwise, nothing
don't take that as an insult or something I was tired
<Sanct> https://www.supermariobrosx.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=75&t=18604&p=275224#p275224
This is good
<megar> i'll take the hit
<Sanct> he literally put people as green for being inactive
That's some of the dumb fucking shit
<Uzendayo> ok
<TLtimelord> Interesting
<Uzendayo> excuse you I'm not fucking inactive
<TLtimelord> Yeah I'm definitely not :triumph:
<Shroom> well Uzendayo you still haven't contributed much talking
you basically only bandwagoned on KoE
<TLtimelord> Dude I think he was quoting what I said
Wait nvm
That's all him
<Shroom> anyway I guess pressuring thg1 has high priority
along with getting mega out of the mess
which will be impossible once ZM knows the sheriff to be legit
@megar also disguising as DPVM?
<megar> not disguising at all
at this point, it's useless
if I disguise and they inspect me again it's obvious I'm the disguiser
if I don't disguise at all, I can play with the idea I'm the Miller
<Shroom> the town will not believe you that either
<megar> they'd believe it more than me changing colours
<Shroom> and there's still the decent possibility that Noodle is doing a big troll game
it's just so incredibly odd that someone claims privately to somebody else random
<megar> mm
<Shroom> and if the Sheriff claimer was fake, the real sheriff WILL inspect you
<megar> I doubt it was fake
just foolish
<Shroom> I still think you have better chances when disguising
the town won't keep you alive because you may be the miller by a 1/6 chance
<megar> as I said, it's more likely than me changing colours
if it WAS a fake claim, which I heavily doubt
<Shroom> my point is that you have nothing to lose either way
<megar> then the real would have claimed to ZM by now
<Shroom> would he?
ZM's not safe
the real sheriff would need some good amount of confidence to claim to ZM
he may rather inspect ZM first
<megar> I just think it's impossible to be a fake claim to begin with
no one would be foolish enough to do that
<Shroom> except Noodle
<megar> Noodle is in such a level of idiocy that I don't think he even knows how to make a fake claim.
<Shroom> https://www.supermariobrosx.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=275271#p275268 now that ... may ruin it.
Any mafioso but the disguiser would not invite themselves to get inspected
<megar> just means the sheriff wastes a turn
<Shroom> yeah and then thg1 is inspected red, and will the town believe him to be the miller?
man, it's hard to pressure someone with the composure like thg1's these days.
<TLtimelord> So noodle is sheriff?
<Shroom> I just realized he could still be. Despite the vote on KoE he made just after ZM's first post.
I find him capable of every trolling possible.
<Pseudo> hey y'all can i get a summary of what you're doing tonight? please and thank you
i have it as killing danny, consorting DPVM
and disguising as idk who
<Shroom> I leave it to mega if he wants to disguise himself
I still recommend it
<Pseudo> the others are correct though yeah?
<Shroom> as of now, yes
<Pseudo> kk
<Shroom> also every accused townie comes up with some excuse to why they did awkward actions
<Shroom> @everyone another idea since thg1 also changed his vote to SSX: mention that they're most likely not both mafia, then hope to get SSX lynched, SSX flips inno so thg1 can be killed as well
<megar> sounds good
<Shroom> mentioned.
<Uzendayo> OK
uh
who should I consort
I don't have any ideas or leads
<Shroom> I already brought up DPVM as a potential sheriff claimer
there's not much harm with trying to stop the sheriff's inspection since then the town doesn't know more than before
<Pseudo> so let's get this straight
killing danny
roleblocking idk since i haven't heard from @Uzendayo
<megar> that's what I said
<Pseudo> disguising as idk also
<megar> no disguise
<Pseudo> ok
<megar> it's pointless now
<Pseudo> i was playing mario kart with quill earlier
i asked him about dolphin shoals
<Uzendayo> consort DPVM
<Pseudo> kk
i was later than you so that'll count
<TLtimelord> who the fuck is sheriff
because he is going to fuck us
it's not Mosaic, it's not witchking
he would have had to be awake around the time of phase change
now I know this is walking along th eline of metagaming
but I would say our only candidate for sheriff is ZM
I've seen him third-person ride his own role
<Pseudo> cannot confirm the identity of the sheriff of course, but i would not say that this line of thinking is metagaming
since one is in control of when one chooses to post in the thread
it would be similar to choosing to only mention one's suspicions in the voting phase of IRL mafia as opposed to pre-voting discussion, which could definitely implicate someone's role
one way or another
again though i am in no way confirming that ZM is or isn't the sheriff
<TLtimelord> But yeah Sanct and Megar are fucked
I'm going with it religiously because that takes suspicion off me potentially
Well I'm expressing neutrality
<Shroom> shit shit shit
so DPVM is not the sheriff
now I'm leaning a lot towards Noodle
VOTE: ShadowStarX
<TLtimelord> It's most likely not noodle
Did noodle claim sheriff? Who ousted Megar as red? @Shroom
<megar> ZM said he got a sheriff claim
we didn't go for him under the expectation that the doctor would protect
<TLtimelord> ZM is probably sheriff
<megar> yeah, I'm under the impression that it is sheriff
I've pretended to be in contact with myself before
<TLtimelord> Sanct did nothing to trigger noodle
<Sanct> Yeah I did
https://www.supermariobrosx.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=75&t=18604&start=240#p275460
:^)
<TLtimelord> What how the fuck did the SSX bandwagon start
Oh, we helped
Tomorrow we're killing ZM or at the very least consorting him, are you ok with that @Uzendayo
<Shroom> well, if ZM really chose to fake a sheriff claimer then props to him.
<Sanct> I'm sorry megaman
we can't get you out of this one
<megar> i was boned as soon as thg was the miller
<Sanct> fucking ridiculous town luck
<megar> smart move changing to me, though
don't let me bring you down
I will take this sacrifice for the good of our nation
<Shroom> what's the vote tally atm?
well we're shifting away from shadowstar
I'm really not sure what to post now
can we still play with imbruing the town that the claimer's nowhere confirmed?
like, telling them that the claimer could still be not legit, and just say whoever he inspected was red
@everyone
<megar> you might be able to play that off
it's risky, though
I'd have Sanct do it because he's been suspected too, and then if people go along with it you can too
<Sanct> You could tell me what I should post
<megar> someone completely unsuspicious pushing that angle would, well, become suspicious
<Sanct> and I'll add some of that famed PERSONALITY
<Shroom> Sanct, say that the town runs a risk just as much and remember them of Spinda's words
and mention that SSX has been acting strangely already while the two of you didn't
maybe if we don't succeed then at least we manage to get the sheriff revealing
<TLtimelord> If anyone should try to continue to defend Megar it should be sanct
<Sanct> https://www.supermariobrosx.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=75&t=18604&p=275499#p275499
<Shroom> I kinda should say something too
e.g. just "I'm sticking with my vote for SSX"
<Shroom> mega is close to an insta
what should I do, and what should we do
@everyone I'm about to post something that starts with: "Wow, you guys are all trigger happy. SSX makes one defense post that looks good on his side, and now you're all about to trust the sheriff claim to be legit."
<megar> I'm happy to take the sacrifice if it means the rest of you look less suspicious
but if you feel that post will help, shoot
<Shroom> well, I'm not known for jumping on bandwagons anyway, so
and remember that if you die then Sanct will go down too
<Pseudo> got your vote shroom
<Shroom> @Uzendayo hold back a little, we want to keep you alive by all means(edited)
<Shroom> I'm starting to look bad too, I really went a high risk.
Now I have the choice to keep finding loopholes or changing my mind from all of a sudden, which I'm known not to do usually.
another idea as response to ZM: "Well, this would be very easy if the Sheriff had claimed to someone that was a confirmed alliance leader. This incidence is the major thing that baffles me. ZM, can you at least confirm whether if it's Noodle or not? (You don't do much harm by saying he is since everyone suspects that already, and if his inspection result is legit then we can assume he's not fooling around)"
I'm giving you guys everything to proofread
<megar> don't ask for Noodle confirm
that's suspicious
<Shroom> Spinda is online, should we call for him?
"Well, this would be very easy if the Sheriff had claimed to someone that was a confirmed alliance leader. This incidence is the major thing that baffles me and I still don't think I can trust him. I would be a lot more safe if I know who the sheriff claimer is, but only you know them. I had genuine suspicion against SSX, but none against Mega and Sanct apart from this."
@megar @Sanct
<megar> don't specify both of us
that'll make YOU look bad
say I might be slightly suspicious, but not enough for you to call me out
<Sanct> I'm doing something else right now
can't fully focus on this
<megar> no prob
<Shroom> why does it make me look bad when Sanct has also been called out for a red inspection?
anyway @megar I guess I just cut out the last sentence
or just say "Well, I for myself would only take the risk if I can lean towards trusting the claimer, but only because he decided to privately claim to you, I can not trust. You know who the claimer is, I don't."
I'm in a need to post something that makes me look decent
@megar final posting suggestion
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/315292533674737665/316646712238145537/M40.png
<Sanct> That sounds fine
hopefully
<megar> yep
sounds good
<Sanct> Good luck megar
see you in the afterlife
<Shroom> yeah rip both of you
right now we're the ones being duffed and not vice versa
<Sanct> oh my god
I think I'll try to reverse-psychology them on night 3
<TLtimelord> Love you, blue
<Shroom> rip'n rekt mega
<megar> rip me
<TLtimelord> fuq