Plat vs. Silver chatlog

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CaxeTheDragon: gg
Lukiecharmz: gg
eBlossom: when you fall behind
eBlossom: tax lanes
CaxeTheDragon: i think i know what i really fked up in
eBlossom: tax a little from every lane
Best Ryze Africa: uhm
eBlossom: to catch up
Hottsh0tt: same thing abel, u gotta control vision better early on
Hottsh0tt: D:
Soanvelacke: mmm join me in channel tooop zac
Best Ryze Africa: basicly
CaxeTheDragon: trading u is where i messed up i think
ForFreedom: zac top is fun ^^
Best Ryze Africa: kind of
Abel9210: well
ForFreedom: for first time zac top lol
CaxeTheDragon: it's not that I cant trade ahri with kass passed 6
CaxeTheDragon: just that i need to be better
Abel9210: barring the part where I kind of
CaxeTheDragon: mechanically
CaxeTheDragon: i think
Best Ryze Africa: you spammed q too much
Abel9210: gave up FB
ForFreedom: ok
Best Ryze Africa: focus on farming
Hottsh0tt: :D
Best Ryze Africa: rather than trading
eBlossom: what rank was nasus
eBlossom: cause he lost to zac
Best Ryze Africa: after 6 you will win
Hottsh0tt: plat 5
CaxeTheDragon: yah that early game was rough
eBlossom: and zac was
CaxeTheDragon: i didnt know what to do
eBlossom: ?
Hottsh0tt: no clue
CaxeTheDragon: i couldnt stop u with my q ;(
Best Ryze Africa: eh
Hottsh0tt: but it happens sometimes
Hottsh0tt: D:
eBlossom: you should ward
eBlossom: arnd your buffs
Best Ryze Africa: you werent too bad in lane
eBlossom: because
CaxeTheDragon: your mana and sustain from spells pushed that over the edge
Abel9210: the problem with controlling vision
eBlossom: i had timers on ur buffs
eBlossom: and since i was ahead
Abel9210: when I tried to clear wards
eBlossom: i will always outsmite you
Lukiecharmz: yea i had timers too but i was never able to be there when they were up
Abel9210: bam, pinked
Abel9210: etc
Hottsh0tt: D:
Hottsh0tt: ya
eBlossom: thats what u need to work on then
Best Ryze Africa: but one piece of advice i can give is dont hesitate
Lukiecharmz: i either had to back or was doing something else ya
Hottsh0tt: its hard, just need more exp
Best Ryze Africa: like for example
Best Ryze Africa: if i roam
Best Ryze Africa: either follow
Best Ryze Africa: or push
eBlossom: yeah i ahd timers
eBlossom: so i made plays
eBlossom: arnd the buffs
CaxeTheDragon: alright, quick decision making i guess
eBlossom: to force someone to back or die
Best Ryze Africa: dont waste time running half way down river to see you cant follow up
Best Ryze Africa: yeah
eBlossom: so its free
Hottsh0tt: gg guys
Best Ryze Africa: and when you go in for a kill
Hottsh0tt: ima sleep
Abel9210: and I couldn't help bot lane snowball
Best Ryze Africa: make sure you got it calculated
Abel9210: i r feeder
Lukiecharmz: how could i have stopped you from getting my 1st red?
Best Ryze Africa: like your cd's and stuff lol
CaxeTheDragon: ;(
CaxeTheDragon: still sad i didnt get u that one time
eBlossom: your zac killed my nasus 1v1
eBlossom: if your zac came
Best Ryze Africa: yeah
eBlossom: to protect
eBlossom: i cant do anything
eBlossom: plus i had smite and u didn't
Best Ryze Africa: try not to be too predicatble with your ult
eBlossom: you ahd ward at ur blue
eBlossom: you knew 4 of us were there
Best Ryze Africa: you dont need to go on top of them all the time
eBlossom: so nasus can't steal
eBlossom: if zac forces him back
Best Ryze Africa: its pretty predictable
Best Ryze Africa: i cought you with charm a few times
CaxeTheDragon: yah ;(
Lukiecharmz: right i was just nervous about nasus forcing me off blue
Lukiecharmz: like takingtoo much damage \
Best Ryze Africa: but otherwise i think you did fine
eBlossom: well
Lukiecharmz: that i would have to back before red
eBlossom: what u could've done
CaxeTheDragon: thank you i appreciate it xD
eBlossom: is quick smite blue
eBlossom: and finish red right away
eBlossom: i wouldn't have ggotten there in time
CaxeTheDragon: gg and yah, thanks again
eBlossom: you went and did wraiths or something
Lukiecharmz: ya
Lukiecharmz: ok then
Lukiecharmz: do you invade pretty much every game high elo?
eBlossom: no
eBlossom: its random shit
Lukiecharmz: hmm
Abel9210: invades are kind of risky in the first place
eBlossom: depends who has better level 1
Lukiecharmz: cause whenever i do pvs
Lukiecharmz: i always get counterjungled
Lukiecharmz: and behind from lvl 1-2
Abel9210: usually, you do it when you know your teammates are coordinated enough to invade
eBlossom: most of the time u just protect ur buff
Abel9210: which is not quite common  in solo q
eBlossom: and get level 3 quick
Lukiecharmz: aight well thanks a bunch
Abel9210: so um
Abel9210: Graves
eBlossom: he had to leave
eBlossom: but when u play janna
eBlossom: try not to get caught
eBlossom: because you're there for people who get caught
eBlossom: so that they dont die
eBlossom: but if you get caught yourself
eBlossom: nobody can save you
Abel9210: well, aside from that
Abel9210: who's supposed to win the Graves/Varus MU
eBlossom: depends on the support
Abel9210: well
eBlossom: but varus
eBlossom: should beat graves 1v1
eBlossom: because he outranges him
eBlossom: and has longer poke
eBlossom: and better kiting
Abel9210: yeah, I was telling our varus to poke when I shielded him
Abel9210: and then we got roflstomped
eBlossom: dont shield randomly
eBlossom: only shield when he CAN harass
Abel9210: or if he's going to take harass?
eBlossom: yeah
Abel9210: k
eBlossom: if he's gonna take harass
eBlossom: shield him so he can trade back
eBlossom: and win the trade
eBlossom: also dont spam spells in lane as janna
eBlossom: need to save them when they all in you or when you want to fight them
eBlossom: dont use tornado to harass
eBlossom: only when you're free to keep hitting him with ur adc
Abel9210: that's what I was doing, for the most part
Abel9210: well
Abel9210: the part where I tried to save up for all-ins
eBlossom: gotta react faster
Abel9210: I only use tornado when we get ganks or if I'm defending the tower
Abel9210: because
Abel9210: well, things
Abel9210: do you main jungle
eBlossom: i play mid jungle and ad
Abel9210: k
eBlossom: had to learn jungle because i was always getting ganked and baited in lane
Abel9210: cool
Abel9210: who did you learn from
eBlossom: myself
eBlossom: spammed a bunch of games as junglers
eBlossom: and a friend who was playing jungle at the time
Abel9210: ah
eBlossom: read some posts and guides on junglers
Abel9210: I don't really like jungle
Abel9210: my worst role by far
eBlossom: same for me
eBlossom: before i started
Abel9210: except you can play it competently
Abel9210: when I jungle, I can't ever seem to decide whether to gank or farm
eBlossom: well im definitely not bronze level jungling anymore
Abel9210: because when I farm, some dude dies
Abel9210: and when I gank, I end up wasting my time
eBlossom: gotta be looking at the lanes
eBlossom: lanes that are gankable should be ganked
eBlossom: if theres nothing to gank go farm or counter jungle
eBlossom: if you know a lane is going to be ganked, go counter gank
eBlossom: if ur too far away, ping them back
eBlossom: the enemy jungler does the same thing you do
eBlossom: so if you were in their shoes, what would you be doing
Abel9210: um
Abel9210: assuming we're using the same jungle champs you guys picked
Abel9210: I'd probably powerlevel to 6, showing my face every once in a while and/or commiting heavily to ganks with tether
Abel9210: then spam ult when it's off cooldown on people who overextend heavily
eBlossom: thats what i was planning on doing
eBlossom: but i had red buff and lanes were gankable
eBlossom: so i went to gank at level 4
eBlossom: top, then bot
eBlossom: got some exp in lane
eBlossom: reached level 6 faster
eBlossom: also
eBlossom: i tried ganking top many times but nasus wasn't that good
eBlossom: we both almost died several times
eBlossom: spamming ult on nocturne isn't good
Abel9210: damn.
eBlossom: because you dont always need it to gank
Abel9210: well, I don't play Nocturne
eBlossom: i dont play him much either
Abel9210: when I jungle
eBlossom: id have preferred lee nasus or j4
eBlossom: but they all picked/bbanend
Abel9210: I usually pick Trundle or Udyr
eBlossom: should learn j4
Abel9210: I already have him
eBlossom: easy
Abel9210: I also tried jungling with J4
Abel9210: the problem being
Abel9210: my ganks were ineffective and I always fell behind
Abel9210: a friend of mine is trying to learn J4
Abel9210: well
Abel9210: I should be going soon
eBlossom: aight
Abel9210: maybe tomorrow, I'll ask my friends if I can go spam jungle
Abel9210: when I play with them
eBlossom: basically keep 1 thing in mind
eBlossom: when jungling
eBlossom: pressure
eBlossom: you should always have presence
eBlossom: on the map
eBlossom: even not showing yourself anywhere
eBlossom: should give enough pressu re for enemies to back off
Abel9210: one of the things I can't seem to do well is gank bot
Abel9210: top or mid, I can do
eBlossom: it's easy
eBlossom: communicate with ur bot lane
eBlossom: so that
eBlossom: your bot lane goes in first
eBlossom: as you arrive
eBlossom: most of the time
eBlossom: your bot lane will have to bait
eBlossom: or just time it so you show up as they start fighting
Abel9210: k