(5:28:16 PM) Galrash: Evoboxes is in no way related to hda and my decisions on how to run evo appropriately should not in any way reflect upon how you run hda or treat it's staff. If you want me gone from hda because of this silly little thing, fine. Don't take your issues with me out against the other staff though.
(5:31:18 PM) danmor86@gmail.com/D82420FD: its not an issue with you, its the way you and hacker both treated me, all you had to do was say Dan look what do you think you can contribute? we are doing this and that, you havent done anything so far, what can you help with etc, instead you said nothing, instead you waited till id spent most of the day writing FAQs, taken money out of my savings account (which incurs an interest penalty) and even then wouldnt have really said anything if i hadnt pressured you into it.
(5:33:11 PM) danmor86@gmail.com/D82420FD: Hacker clearly had a problem with me, it just so happens that when I go into IRC he says: Dan is out, then wont actually grow a pair and say it. As a joint sysop i have to be able to trust him entirely, and this behaviour behind my back is not indicative of the trust required
(5:33:27 PM) Galrash: I was not aware you had done any of those things and I'm sorry about it. With all the coding and building to get evo setup there really wasn't much time spent on the actual structure of the organization until it came up yesterday.
(5:34:22 PM) danmor86@gmail.com/D82420FD: you never even asked what i would be contributing?
(5:34:42 PM) Galrash: well, to clarify that, I had just shown him the paypal terms you sent me and told him I had declined them because it really wouldn't work. he then said that you probably wouldn't do it any other way and thats what led to the irc comment. it wasn't a "lets get rid of Dan" thing. it was a "we pretty much know how we want to run this and we don't think dan will be ok with it based on what hes said so far"
(5:35:08 PM) Galrash: no I didn't, and I'm sorry for that.
(5:35:34 PM) danmor86@gmail.com/D82420FD: thats funny, because when i talked to hacker before it was always going to be split like that, in fact at the time Oehr was just going to be given 5%
(5:35:46 PM) Galrash: heh
(5:35:55 PM) Galrash: well clearly our communication is lacking
(5:36:42 PM) danmor86@gmail.com/D82420FD: can you now understand why i was concerned that hacker had full permissions, root access etc, he could have done whatever he wanted to my account or my access at any time
(5:36:45 PM) danmor86@gmail.com/D82420FD: ?
(5:37:15 PM) Galrash: the point I am trying to make Dan is that this has never been anything against you or any sort of vendetta. It was very simply I had a basic idea of how I wanted to work and I wanted to keep it small and as legally simple as possible
(5:37:25 PM) Galrash: yes I can, thats always a risk, but you should know that wouldn't happen..
(5:38:00 PM) danmor86@gmail.com/D82420FD: i dont trust him to be upfront with me or tbh you for that matter but you dont have root access so its no biggy
(5:39:46 PM) Galrash: well. the evoboxes fiasco was a product of lack of communication and nobody really having a concrete idea of what happened when and how to go forward.  I understand why your mad and rightly so, a serious convo about the legal structure behind it should have happened way before we started actually building things
(5:44:02 PM) danmor86@gmail.com/D82420FD: the truth is you never really wanted me involved, you know what i can and cant do? coding and vm is not something i have experience in, azza codes, you do webdesign, hacker does vm, me and oehr know a lot about seedbox support, so i did what i could which was to try and contribute more financially than anyone else, and i would have helped out with support a lot. The only reason im pissed off is that you werent all upfront with me, you felt you had everything covered clearly, yet you let me keep thinking i was actually involved
(5:46:07 PM) Galrash: Yes, that is completely true. I apologize. were you anyone else besides the sysop at HDA it would have been much easier to do but I should have done so anyway
(5:46:52 PM) danmor86@gmail.com/D82420FD: thank you