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  1. Session Start: Mon May 22 21:23:17 2017
  2. Session Ident: Oldee
  3. [21:23] Session Ident: Oldee (QuakeNet, Sep) (~Olde@Olde.users.quakenet.org)
  4. 04[21:23] <Oldee> Sep
  5. 01[21:23] <Sep> ye
  6. [21:24] <Oldee> Not saying the sewer gang is trusted here, but getting some pictures saying they were killing you for your looted sets yesterday.
  7. 01[21:24] <Sep> looting rune gold and shit ye prob some rune in there aswell
  8. [21:24] <Oldee> and what were you doing with that loot
  9. 01[21:24] <Sep> putting it in my bank
  10. [21:25] <Oldee> so walking down and banking it?
  11. 01[21:25] <Sep> i died twice
  12. 01[21:25] <Sep> 1st time normal
  13. 01[21:25] <Sep> 2nd time with loot
  14. 01[21:25] <Sep> 3rd time i had an inv of loot
  15. 01[21:25] <Sep> which
  16. 01[21:25] <Sep> was banked
  17. [21:26] <Oldee> and how was the third time banked if you died
  18. [21:26] <Oldee> oh
  19. [21:26] <Oldee> nvm
  20. [21:26] <Oldee> u didnt die third time
  21. [21:27] <Oldee> I think it's pretty clear you shouldn't be looting in our fights for us to be competitive. I get maybe you didn't die much like some of us, but it's not productive.
  22. [21:27] <Oldee> and has always been the case
  23. 01[21:28] <Sep> eh ill do it if i feel the need to
  24. 01[21:28] <Sep> whether its trading rune to timpsu for food and ppots or just simply for my own game
  25. 01[21:28] <Sep> im reliable in the end i aint fucking around where i shouldnt be
  26. 01[21:28] <Sep> picking up some rune
  27. 01[21:28] <Sep> who cares
  28. [21:29] <Oldee> it takes away from your performance when we need it. It's just like why we can't have people off sniping etc unless told to
  29. 01[21:31] <Sep> perspective > fun
  30. [21:32] <Oldee> it's about striking that balance. If we let people do whatever they deemed was fun, we wouldn't get very far.
  31. 01[21:32] <Sep> balance
  32. 01[21:32] <Sep> your here calling me out on having rune first image you've seen of it
  33. 01[21:32] <Sep> i/we've barely taken a first step
  34. [21:33] <Oldee> I'm saying people are telling me you are looting during fights. Something we've always been against. So if you're looting there's a good chance you're doing your own thing.
  35. 01[21:33] <Sep> your perspective is that me looting rune for a few moments is taking away from my performance
  36. 01[21:33] <Sep> me looting that rune gave me 2 - 3 minutes of fun out of a 2 hours shout session
  37. [21:33] <Oldee> Imagine if everyone took 2-3 minutes to do their own thing though. and imagine if they all took the same 2-3 minutes
  38. 01[21:34] <Sep> you want to watch me and see if im following piles by all means
  39. 01[21:34] <Sep> go ahead
  40. [21:34] <Oldee> not necessary
  41. 01[21:34] <Sep> then why are we having the conversation
  42. 01[21:34] <Sep> i had rune in my invent
  43. 01[21:34] <Sep> if u dont believe me to be doing my own thing lol
  44. [21:36] <Oldee> I don't need to watch you and babysit you to follow simple rules. I'm not here to attack you, so I don't really understand why it's gotta be something that comes with attitude.
  45. 01[21:38] <Sep> i dont understand why the first kill pic of me looting rune you're coming to me pming about it lol
  46. 01[21:38] <Sep> is there a pic of me walking down with it
  47. [21:41] <Oldee> basically all I'm trying to say is, looting is against our rules in capped fights where we return. Everyone knows that. So I'm trying to clear that up with you.
  48. [21:41] <Oldee> And you were honest with me and told me you were looting.
  49. [21:41] <Oldee> But seem to think it's okay still because you're having fun doing it.
  50. 01[21:41] <Sep> yeah
  51. 01[21:41] <Sep> playing a game
  52. 01[21:42] <Sep> having a few moments to myself
  53. 01[21:42] <Sep> within a moment
  54. 01[21:42] <Sep> everyone does it
  55. 01[21:42] <Sep> your not going to control that
  56. 01[21:42] <Sep> you can say yeah sep did it this time hes gonna do it again
  57. 01[21:42] <Sep> yea if everyone does it we'll be screwed
  58. [21:42] <Oldee> Sure, but when we war as a clan we have a particular way we do it and that's how this clan runs. No one's saying when opportunities present itself you can't have fun, but looting during fights isn't one of them.
  59. 01[21:43] <Sep> listen if a rune gold set drops and i get the kill im gonna loot it
  60. 01[21:43] <Sep> if i feel like picking up my rune off the ground im going to do it
  61. 01[21:44] <Sep> to say im doing it everytime sure not a chance
  62. 01[21:44] <Sep> but if i want to
  63. 01[21:44] <Sep> yeah
  64. 01[21:44] <Sep> im gonna do it
  65. 01[21:47] <Sep> you really wana have a laugh about it i got a poke from bball after looting the rune gold armour set saying he died for my sins cuz he knew exactly what i was doing he had no problem with it either
  66. [21:47] <Oldee> Appreciate the honesty, but wrong mentality to have. I can assure you bball is not okay with it as long as the rest of the leadership team.
  67. [21:47] <Oldee> as well as*
  68. 01[21:48] <Sep> lol k
  69. Session Close: Mon May 22 21:48:10 2017
  70.  
  71. Session Start: Mon May 22 21:48:59 2017
  72. Session Ident: Oldee
  73. [21:48] Session Ident: Oldee (QuakeNet, Sep) (~Olde@Olde.users.quakenet.org)
  74. [21:48] <Oldee> It's just how it works. There's rules, you follow them. You may not agree or enjoy everything we do, but sometimes you gotta do what's best for the clan. If everyone chose ignore rules they didn't like we'd have a lot of problems as a clan.
  75. 01[21:49] <Sep> nah man there are rules and i do follow them and u fucking know it i dont fuck around majority of the time
  76. 01[21:49] <Sep> i fucking looted one set of rune
  77. 01[21:49] <Sep> maybe 5
  78. 01[21:49] <Sep> maybe 6
  79. 01[21:49] <Sep> who fucking knows
  80. 01[21:49] <Sep> i dont care honestly
  81. 01[21:49] <Sep> i was enjoying myself
  82. [21:49] <Oldee> I'm not saying you don't follow the majority of our rules.
  83. 01[21:49] <Sep> and ur not gonna take that shit away from me lmao
  84. [21:50] <Oldee> All I'm saying is you've raised the point that you don't agree with the looting rule and you're going to do it no matter what because you enjoy it.
  85. 01[21:50] <Sep> i havnt raise a issue with it at all lmao you brought up a issue with me having a rune set on me like it was a huge issue how many pictues do u have of it
  86. 01[21:50] <Sep> how many sets were on me
  87. 01[21:50] <Sep> what was it
  88. 01[21:50] <Sep> my gold set
  89. 01[21:51] <Sep> then my original rune set
  90. 01[21:51] <Sep> show me the shit
  91. [21:52] <Oldee> it doesn't matter what it was, it's more the act of looting. The point is if there's rules, and you think it's okay to break them, how can I ever enforce anything? What if someone doesn't want to meet a particular req because they disagree with it? What if someone doesnt want to meet the ballista req bec they never use it? What if they claim they dont need 99 range because they always mage?
  92. [21:53] <Oldee> Everyone has rules they don't agree with or enjoy, there's no question to that.
  93. [21:53] <Oldee> But rules are there to be followed as a whole, not exceptions. This isn't something to do with just you.
  94. 01[21:53] <Sep> show me the picture
  95. [21:54] <Oldee> I mean you admitted to me you looted during the fight, I'm not sure what you are looking for me to explain here.
  96. 01[21:54] <Sep> show me the picture
  97. [21:54] <Oldee> for what purpose?
  98. 01[21:54] <Sep> you've raised your point and concern about what the issue is
  99. 01[21:54] <Sep> ive admitted to it
  100. 01[21:54] <Sep> show me the picture
  101. 01[21:54] <Sep> im asking you toi
  102. 01[21:54] <Sep> do it
  103. [21:54] <Oldee> so you want proof of how I knew or what I asked?
  104. [21:54] <Oldee> why I asked*
  105. 01[21:54] <Sep> i want to see your proof and the contents of it
  106. 01[21:54] <Sep> now
  107. 01[21:55] <Sep> text irc pics
  108. 01[21:55] <Sep> whatever it is
  109. 01[21:55] <Sep> go
  110. 01[21:55] <Sep> idgaf who is involved in it whos its from
  111. 01[21:55] <Sep> w\e
  112. [21:55] <Oldee> it's all over zybez
  113. 01[21:55] <Sep> ite
  114. 01[21:55] <Sep> show me
  115. 01[21:55] <Sep> links
  116. 01[21:56] <Sep> im not gonna go looking for it
  117. [21:56] <Oldee> it's on our day out topic: http://forums.zybez.net/topic/1779420-damage-incorporateds-official-return-to-the-wild/page-4#entry17131003
  118. [21:56] <Oldee> there's pics throughout but earlier on
  119. 01[21:56] <Sep> collect them
  120. 01[21:56] <Sep> as you have to come to me
  121. 01[21:56] <Sep> with what you have
  122. 01[21:57] <Sep> Whatitbodoo thanks for the clean 1v1 fight at gds while your team fought against downfall
  123. 01[21:57] <Sep> he got it right
  124. 01[21:57] <Sep> u didnt
  125. [21:57] <Oldee> what?
  126. 01[21:57] <Sep> Whatitbodoo thanks for the clean 1v1 fight at gds while your team fought against downfall
  127. 01[21:57] <Sep> Whatitbodoo
  128. [21:57] <Oldee> lol
  129. [21:57] <Oldee> who is whatitdoboo
  130. 01[21:57] <Sep> no
  131. 01[21:57] <Sep> please
  132. 01[21:57] <Sep> continue with the rest of ur proof
  133. 01[21:57] <Sep> please
  134. 01[21:58] <Sep> link by link
  135. 01[21:58] <Sep> copy and paste by copy and paste
  136. [21:58] <Oldee> the point was the point was addressed and I came to you for your perspective. You clearly outlined how you looted. So now we have a bigger problem. I'll admit that rsn is wrong which isn't you. Meaning others are doing it.
  137. 01[21:59] <Sep> so
  138. 01[21:59] <Sep> your proof
  139. 01[21:59] <Sep> is simply that line of text
  140. 01[21:59] <Sep> and the following one
  141. 01[21:59] <Sep> ty
  142. 01[21:59] <Sep> speak to beverson regarding the hopping to worlds
  143. 01[21:59] <Sep> next time
  144. 01[21:59] <Sep> come to me witha picture
  145. 01[21:59] <Sep> not shit on a fucking public forum
  146. [21:59] <Oldee> My proof is you telling me you looted.
  147. 01[21:59] <Sep> im done talking about this
  148. Session Close: Mon May 22 21:59:51 2017
  149.  
  150. Session Start: Mon May 22 22:00:03 2017
  151. Session Ident: Oldee
  152. [22:00] Session Ident: Oldee (QuakeNet, Sep) (~Olde@Olde.users.quakenet.org)
  153. [22:00] <Oldee> it doesnt matter what picture someone has or what they say
  154. [22:00] <Oldee> people lie
  155. 01[22:00] <Sep> yeah
  156. [22:00] <Oldee> which is why I came to you to hear your side
  157. 01[22:00] <Sep> so ur coming to me based on this
  158. 01[22:00] <Sep> and i said yeah
  159. [22:00] <Oldee> and you were honest and said you looted
  160. 01[22:00] <Sep> i had rune gold on me
  161. 01[22:00] <Sep> and an extra set
  162. 01[22:00] <Sep> i had a fucking rune gold set on me
  163. 01[22:00] <Sep> fuck off man
  164. 01[22:00] <Sep> srsly
  165. 01[22:00] <Sep> if ur gonna keep pming me about this
  166. 01[22:01] <Sep> ill put u on ignore like bball leaving highlights from zaza and ffsm8 that i will recieve
  167. Session Close: Mon May 22 22:01:14 2017
  168.  
  169. Session Start: Mon May 22 22:02:15 2017
  170. Session Ident: Oldee
  171. [22:02] Session Ident: Oldee (QuakeNet, Sep) (~Olde@Olde.users.quakenet.org)
  172. [22:02] <Oldee> If you can't communicate in an orderly fashion with your leader, I don't see why you would still be here.
  173. 01[22:02] <Sep> you're sitting above me trying to control every string you can at this point because i picked up a fucking rune set i could look flashier in while at a fight and your continuing your crusade
  174. 01[22:02] <Sep> for no fucking reason
  175. 01[22:02] <Sep> i follow ur fucking piles
  176. 01[22:02] <Sep> i looted a fucking flashing rune gold set
  177. 01[22:03] <Sep> and ur still coming at me
  178. 01[22:03] <Sep> telling me im in the wrong
  179. 01[22:03] <Sep> you cant fucking control every fucking little aspect i broke a fucking tiny ass rule that hurt fucking nobody jesus christ
  180. 01[22:03] <Sep> drop it
  181. [22:03] <Oldee> I have zero desire to try to control you in ways that aren't far. All I'm saying is we have simple rules to follow such as no looting and we expect every member to follow them.
  182. 01[22:03] <Sep> kick me if u feel the need go for it
  183. [22:03] <Oldee> arent fair*
  184. 01[22:04] <Sep> once again
  185. 01[22:04] <Sep> your dragging this out
  186. 01[22:04] <Sep> because i admitted
  187. 01[22:04] <Sep> to fucking looting a rune gold set
  188. 01[22:04] <Sep> and that isnt even the issue at hand
  189. [22:04] <Oldee> Like I said it's as simple as you acknowledging it's a rule and moving on without continuing but you keep telling em
  190. 01[22:04] <Sep> you came to talk to me about
  191. [22:04] <Oldee> you are gonna continue and dont care
  192. [22:04] <Oldee> which brings me to the major problem
  193. 01[22:04] <Sep> because if i want to loot a fucking rune gold set yeah
  194. 01[22:04] <Sep> im gonna do it
  195. 01[22:04] <Sep> your not going to stop me from doing it
  196. 01[22:05] <Sep> you're not gonna stop a single fucking person in di from doing it
  197. [22:05] <Oldee> so if i can't get you to follow a simple rule like no looting, how am I ever going to get you to follow other more important rules?
  198. 01[22:05] <Sep> okay oldee i wont loot just for you
  199. 01[22:05] <Sep> but if i see a rune gold set
  200. 01[22:05] <Sep> im picking it up
  201. 01[22:06] <Sep> but if i see a godsword or something in a big fight
  202. 01[22:06] <Sep> ill leave that be
  203. 01[22:06] <Sep> no looting
  204. [22:06] <Oldee> I mean this isn't about what I want, it's just a clan rule. Like you said, you follow most of the rules. But i can't have exceptions.
  205. [22:06] <Oldee> I think you're misunderstanding
  206. [22:06] <Oldee> so let me be clear
  207. [22:06] <Oldee> in a f2p/p2p returning capped fight
  208. [22:06] <Oldee> you can't loot mutli sets and fill ur invent, but a big +1
  209. [22:06] <Oldee> you can loot it and bank all you want
  210. [22:07] <Oldee> that's totally fine
  211. [22:07] <Oldee> as can u can loot when we clear/hit teams without needed to return
  212. [22:07] <Oldee> everyne loots in p2p wen we dont have to return to fight
  213. [22:07] <Oldee> you're fine to do so
  214. 01[22:07] <Sep> okay you can dictate what i do with my time what i feel the need to loot and or need in my invy what i may find some joy out of in the 2 hour fights of mass returning and yelling
  215. 01[22:07] <Sep> okay oldee
  216. 01[22:07] <Sep> ite
  217. [22:07] <Oldee> just not if we get in a big fight
  218. -
  219. 03[22:07] * Added *!*Olde@Olde.users.quakenet.org to ignore list
  220. -
  221. Session Close: Mon May 22 22:07:54 2017
  222.  
  223. Session Start: Mon May 22 22:13:41 2017
  224. Session Ident: Oldee
  225. 04[22:28] <Oldee> So what's it going to be Sep? Are we able to move on from this or are we back at square one?
  226. -
  227. 01[22:28] Oldee is ~Olde@Olde.users.quakenet.org * Olde
  228. 01[22:28] Oldee on #immaculate @#di-priv
  229. 01[22:28] Oldee using *.quakenet.org QuakeNet IRC Server
  230. 01[22:28] Oldee is authed as Olde
  231. 01[22:28] Oldee End of /WHOIS list.
  232. -
  233. 01[22:31] <Sep> Were at the same square where we started we havnt moved your not going to change my stance on how i feel you've taken your point to flex your new power or stand point whatever the fuck ur on right now i suggest you come off it and dont move on to another conversation any further than this one without any more sufficient proof or anything at a larger scale than something said on zybez or maybe someone having 2 rune sets on them if its a full inventory or a reoccuring issue yeah sure proceed further now as ive stated im done with this fucking conversation if you continue i told u what i will do if u want to kick me from di or the new di or the nazi di if u do so by all means go ahead i dont care ill go find some entertainment somewhere else there is a life outside of di outside of the computer and i can go enjoy that just the same as i do now here
  234. 01[22:31] <Sep> feel free
  235. Session Close: Mon May 22 22:31:53 2017
  236.  
  237. Session Start: Mon May 22 22:32:40 2017
  238. Session Ident: Oldee
  239. 01[22:32] <Sep> oh and learn the ml.
  240. Session Close: Mon May 22 22:32:46 2017
  241.  
  242. Session Start: Mon May 22 22:33:06 2017
  243. Session Ident: Oldee
  244. [22:33] Session Ident: Oldee (QuakeNet, Sep) (~Olde@Olde.users.quakenet.org)
  245. [22:33] <Oldee> It was never about looting, that was just the initial problem. The real root of the problem was how you feel like you don't have to follow our rules and that no one can change that.
  246. 01[22:33] <Sep> alright
  247. 01[22:33] <Sep> ignore it is.
  248. -
  249. 03[22:33] * Added *!*Olde@Olde.users.quakenet.org to ignore list
  250. -
  251. Session Close: Mon May 22 22:33:21 2017
  252.  
  253. Session Start: Mon May 22 22:59:04 2017
  254. Session Ident: Oldee
  255. Session Close: Mon May 22 22:59:08 2017
  256.  
  257. Session Start: Mon May 22 22:59:21 2017
  258. Session Ident: Oldee
  259. Session Close: Mon May 22 22:59:25 2017
  260.  
  261. Session Start: Mon May 22 22:59:26 2017
  262. Session Ident: oldee
  263. 03[22:59] * Removed *!*Olde@Olde.users.quakenet.org from ignore list
  264. -
  265. Session Close: Mon May 22 23:07:04 2017
  266.  
  267. Session Start: Sat May 27 10:22:33 2017
  268. Session Ident: Oldee
  269. [10:22] Session Ident: Oldee (QuakeNet, Sep) (~Olde@Olde.users.quakenet.org)
  270. 04[10:22] <Oldee> Sep
  271. 01[10:23] <Sep> yer
  272. [10:24] <Oldee> is it okay if we talk now?
  273. 01[10:24] <Sep> been waiting 2 days for it lol
  274. [10:25] <Oldee> okay
  275. [10:25] <Oldee> well what is your take on everything, how are you feeling about it all
  276. 01[10:27] <Sep> its retarded
  277. 01[10:27] <Sep> more or less
  278. [10:30] <Oldee> yeah, I think it blew way out of proportion and things didn't have to come to what they came to
  279. [10:30] <Oldee> on both ends
  280. 01[10:32] <Sep> ye it was blown out of proportion and no i dont handle confrontation well at all especially in the sense it was
  281. [10:33] <Oldee> ye it's understandable
  282. 01[10:45] <Sep> leaving now if theres more u feel needs to be said feel free to drop it here ill get back to it
  283. [10:51] <Oldee> anyways, hopefully we can both move on from it. Like we both said, something happened that got blown way out of proportion. Don't see why our thoughts towards each other shouldn't go back to how they were before as we both weren't here for personal attacks.
  284. 01[11:59] <Sep> shouldnt be an issue but in future instances when im asking you to drop something id like it to be dropped
  285. 01[11:59] <Sep> either taken up later
  286. 01[12:00] <Sep> or by a different person
  287. [12:00] <Oldee> yeah I've always been a fan of the 24hr rule, just how it happened. Did what I thought was best in the moment,
  288. 01[12:19] <Sep> well its been about 72 and with that being said you may have caught the broad side of something that wasnt directed fully at you but you recieved it none the less for that ill apologize for but that is how i react when im put into something that i dont want to be in. I'll say aswell when i first joined di it was when we essentially put the nail into the coffin of the crash war for df/vr with rot and sealed their fate more or less it hasnt been what it was in f2p since the 10 hr fight and u now how i felt about f2p prior to joining. that isnt an excuse to loot but like i said taking the time to pick up a rune g set in the sense of looting aint shit sniping the kid to acquire it is an issue but as you have been informed i was poked the exact same thing as the rest babalanka is sniping joko to some extent its understandable why i did it but at same point from what i understand your reasoning is no official said it so why was it being done.
  289. [12:22] <Oldee> yeah understandable
  290. [12:29] <Oldee> I know it may not mean a whole lot now, but I've always been someone who's willing to discuss anything (if people are willing) no matter what it may be even if it's about myself. I can't expect people to always come to me, but the opening is always there.
  291. [12:29] <Oldee> if people don't like something, I want to hear it and I want to try to come up with a resolution/alternative. Sure there may not always be one, but it's worth the chance.
  292. 01[12:37] <Sep> well like i said to ray i didnt ask the others to leave on my behalf thats was their own choice me i just wanted the issue dropped at the time and thats how it escalated phil basically wanted an apology and beverson is apparently there cuz i was there to do shit with which puts pressure on me in that situation because hes left me responsible for himself in some regard but thats fine
  293. 01[12:37] <Sep> i apologized to you there i dont rlly know what more ur lookin for ye
  294. [12:37] <Oldee> nah I know it wasn't your doing
  295. [12:37] <Oldee> and fully knew that was what was going to happen
  296. [12:37] <Oldee> nope not looking for anything
  297. [12:38] <Oldee> just the reality of the situation is all
  298. [12:49] <Oldee> I wans't saying that for u to have a response, just as a general note that no matter what I don't mind discussing things etc if that helps to clear/sort things out whether it's about you, someone else, me, etc.
  299. [12:49] <Oldee> same goes for anyone else
  300. 01[14:15] <Sep> so no reversing it
  301. [14:15] <Oldee> what
  302. 01[14:15] <Sep> ur changing access now
  303. [14:15] <Oldee> well
  304. [14:16] <Oldee> from my understanding beverson and phil are stil ladamant on leaving?
  305. 01[14:16] <Sep> if im kicked yeah
  306. [14:16] <Oldee> I pmed phil to let him know to make sure it was the case
  307. [14:16] <Oldee> well
  308. [14:16] <Oldee> what do u think has to happen moving forward
  309. 01[14:17] <Sep> i believe we covered that already
  310. 01[14:17] <Sep> if its worth losing everyone over by all means continue through thats your choice
  311. 01[14:18] <Sep> as you said already you made a mistake i apologized to you and you havnt said much to the fact other than you acted out of hand
  312. 04[14:21] <Oldee> ok, but you gotta realize I still have to lead a clan. It should never be about if X happens to Sep, we are out (obviously within reason). To me it was never about whether someone was kicked or not, was more about resolving things. Easy for me to say yeah your back, but if nothing was never got resolved then we be back at square one.
  313. [14:21] <Oldee> to me it looks like people still want to talk
  314. 01[14:22] <Sep> nobody is looking to talk
  315. 01[14:26] <Sep> its been 4 5 days since it happened facts are what they are the fact u came to me with was bs in the first place was complete shit phil and beverson are clear on the fact if im gone their gone i just apologized to you about what it was and ur still gonna hold on to the original issue which i outlined and you responded with its understandable
  316. [14:29] <Oldee> it's not that I'm trying to hold onto the original issue. It's just there's decision I have to make and sometimes they aren't going to be handled perfectly, but I'll always do the best I can. Phil and beverson were willing to make those decision before talking things through. Which sure may be understandable but I don't see why that couldn't just happen again if it's more about if someone
  317. [14:29] <Oldee> is let back in
  318. 01[14:29] <Sep> ye worried about your ego lad
  319. [14:29] <Oldee> has nothing to do with me
  320. Session Close: Sat May 27 14:30:38 2017
  321.  
  322. Session Start: Sat May 27 14:54:49 2017
  323. Session Ident: Oldee
  324. [14:54] Session Ident: Oldee (QuakeNet, Sep) (~Olde@Olde.users.quakenet.org)
  325. [14:54] <Oldee> it's more that I have to make decisions for this clan and if people arent willing to talk first before acting then we'll have problems. Why wouldn't the same thing just happen the next time Phil and Beverson don't like something?
  326. [14:55] <Oldee> like I said I'm willing to try to make things work, but at the end of the day I'm going to have to make decisions.
  327. [14:57] <Oldee> I'm perfectly fine putting everytihng that happenened in the past, but can I be confident that things won't happen the same way again?
  328. [14:58] <Oldee> whether decisions were made wrongly or not, I'm going to have to make tough decisions. Can't have people just campaigning over everything, even if it is controversial. And that goes for everyone I would think.
  329. 01[15:05] <Sep> you're to far gone my friend to see the bigger picture here but thats fine u can keep pulling some small thing to think about and toss it at us go ahead like i said your choice enjoy the circle you keep running in
  330. Session Close: Sat May 27 15:05:30 2017
  331.  
  332. Session Start: Sat May 27 15:07:57 2017
  333. Session Ident: Oldee
  334. [15:07] Session Ident: Oldee (QuakeNet, Sep) (~Olde@Olde.users.quakenet.org)
  335. [15:07] <Oldee> So say everything was back to normal, what would happen if another problem happened similar to what happened here? You would be in agreeance that there wouldn't be second chances? That's the bulk of the idea here that I'm trying to get across.
  336. 01[15:08] <Sep> the bulk of the idea your trying to get accross has taken you around lets seee
  337. 01[15:09] <Sep> 6-7 hours now to get to?
  338. 01[15:09] <Sep> as i said
  339. 01[15:09] <Sep> enjoy the circle you keep running in
  340. 01[15:09] <Sep> thats my closing statement
  341. 01[15:09] <Sep> i dont expect you to reply to it
  342. Session Close: Sat May 27 15:09:42 2017
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