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  1. The mods argue that I fake claim every single game and this makes the games unplayable and the fake claiming trolling. Here I post the actual game statistics on this topic for my rainyday account:
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  3. I had a 50% fake claiming rate as town, and if you exclude my fakes as the town clear, it drops to 30%. I argue that this claiming rate is not excessive and not affecting games.
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  5. Faked claims as town (most of these are brief claims and then retractions when the real one outs)
  6. 1. Cced cop and retracted when cop was uncc: 2times as blue+1 as doc
  7. 2. Fake claimed pr in non cop set up as blue/pr: 5 times
  8. 3 fake claimed as clear/pr to reaction test (mostly sheriff):5
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  10. no fake claims as town:
  11. blue-7
  12. pr- 6
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  14. as mafia, I often cced and retracted to try to avoid lynches
  15. fake trolling like claims: 1
  16. normal mafia games: 14
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  19. game summaries:
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  21.  
  22. https://epicmafia.com/game/6587202
  23. died n1 as jan
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  25. https://epicmafia.com/game/6587210
  26. cced oracle as jan
  27.  
  28. https://epicmafia.com/game/6587217
  29. claimed role as drunk straight
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  31. https://epicmafia.com/game/6587227
  32. claimed mimic day1 as blue and went into night claiming mimic to bait shot
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  34. https://epicmafia.com/game/6587233
  35. no fake claims as blue. Acted blue
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  37. https://epicmafia.com/game/6587359
  38. hooker, shot day1
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  40. https://epicmafia.com/game/6587366/review
  41. vegged
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  43. https://epicmafia.com/game/6587377
  44. blue, no fake claims
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  46. https://epicmafia.com/game/6588082
  47. nilla, no fake claims
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  49. https://epicmafia.com/game/6588555
  50. vegged
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  52. https://epicmafia.com/game/6588558
  53. faked carol as nilla with dead caroler but retracted because I was cced and thought I would lose
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  55. https://epicmafia.com/game/6588565
  56. blue; oracle and sheriff did not out. I claimed oracle to try to die at night when we were nling but told them to fun carol so we got carol. I retracted when sheriff and oracle outed. 6:58 I retracted when sheriff outed
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  58. https://epicmafia.com/game/6588575
  59. outed fake carol as oracle to get reads
  60.  
  61. https://epicmafia.com/game/6588874
  62. cced caroled as jan
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  64.  
  65. https://epicmafia.com/game/6591806
  66. the gunned died and I was gs. I claimed gs to try to die at night and get saved to get the ml back but failed
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  68. https://epicmafia.com/game/6592232
  69. cced oracle as jan
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  71. https://epicmafia.com/game/6592273
  72. vegged
  73.  
  74. https://epicmafia.com/game/6592284
  75. jan, fake claimed sheriff and was going to claim oracle but sheriff never outed (blue was dead) so I retracted sheriff claim and we nled
  76.  
  77. https://epicmafia.com/game/6592310
  78. sheriff, outed fake carol
  79.  
  80. https://epicmafia.com/game/6592325
  81. I was caroled blue with dead sheriff so was serious
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  83. https://epicmafia.com/game/6593494
  84. hooker. Cc caroler hard
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  86. https://epicmafia.com/game/6593539
  87. cc cop day1 as blue to get cop uncc. I got 1 claim to retract. I then was claiming hooker and cat the rest of the day
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  89. https://epicmafia.com/game/6593644
  90. blue. Oracle did not out. I claimed and retracted when he outed 8s later\]
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  92. https://epicmafia.com/game/6593981
  93. blue, no fake claims
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  95. https://epicmafia.com/game/6594002
  96. jan hipfired day1. No claims
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  98. https://epicmafia.com/game/6594216
  99. vegged
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  101. https://epicmafia.com/game/6594224
  102. no ccs. Was gs
  103.  
  104. https://epicmafia.com/game/6594419
  105. vegged
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  107.  
  108. https://epicmafia.com/game/6594436
  109. no fake claims. Blue
  110.  
  111. https://epicmafia.com/game/6594447
  112. sheriff; faked carol
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  114. https://epicmafia.com/game/6594452
  115. blue cced and retracted cop to get cop uncced
  116.  
  117. https://epicmafia.com/game/6594460
  118. blue; pretended to be oracle in set up without oracle
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  120. https://epicmafia.com/game/6594792
  121. sheriff, pretended to be caroler at start for rxns
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  123. https://epicmafia.com/game/6594810
  124. hooker. Had to cc oracle or was confirmed
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  126. https://epicmafia.com/game/6594836
  127. nilla. Cced oracle
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  129. https://epicmafia.com/game/6594856
  130. doc. Cced cop but retracted when uncced
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  132. https://epicmafia.com/game/6594882
  133. cc sheriff, oracle, etc as blue and retracted
  134.  
  135. https://epicmafia.com/game/6594906
  136. vegged
  137.  
  138.  
  139. https://epicmafia.com/game/6595965
  140. cop;regular claims
  141.  
  142. https://epicmafia.com/game/6595987
  143. caroler died n1
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  145. https://epicmafia.com/game/6596015
  146. cced oracle as nilla
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  148. https://epicmafia.com/game/6596050
  149. blue no fake claims
  150.  
  151. https://epicmafia.com/game/6596091
  152. caroler no fake claims
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  154. https://epicmafia.com/game/6596103
  155. blue no fake claims
  156.  
  157. https://epicmafia.com/game/6598013
  158. jan. faked oracle and retracted because I would be lynched
  159.  
  160. https://epicmafia.com/game/6598024
  161. nilla. Cced caroler and retracted to try to escape
  162.  
  163. https://epicmafia.com/game/6598029
  164. nilla cced oracle
  165. https://epicmafia.com/game/6598039
  166. oracle, regular claims
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  168.  
  169. https://epicmafia.com/game/6598050
  170. blue normal claims
  171.  
  172. https://epicmafia.com/game/6598077
  173. vegged
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  175. https://epicmafia.com/game/6598083
  176. normal claims as cop
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  178.  
  179. bin summary,
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  181. While I do fake claim between 30-50% of my town game, this does not interfere with the games at all as I usually quickly retract when the pr claims. Additionally I strategically do this every time to get the prs to out when needed or to save them. Fake claiming to protect prs, get people to out to lead the town when needed, and to reaction test is not trolling. It is a legitimate strategy to protect the town and allow us to win.
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  183. Over half of my town games had no fake claiming at all. The occasional time that I use it is strategically placed and I intentially do it in a way to not interrupt the game. Like I was running on all of my accounts here, so why would I fake claim as town to try to make the town lose when I am running myself and town….
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  185. this trolling violation is bs. Trolling requires me to antagonize players, which never happened. It requires me to disrupt the game, which did not happen according to the sheriff and the fact that we won it in 15min based on our scum hunting. Finally it requires me to try to play with the intent of getting negative reactions from other players. If you read this game, you can clearly see that my only intent was to save the clears and lead town to a win. The clears also confirmed that this is how I played.
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