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- The mods argue that I fake claim every single game and this makes the games unplayable and the fake claiming trolling. Here I post the actual game statistics on this topic for my rainyday account:
- I had a 50% fake claiming rate as town, and if you exclude my fakes as the town clear, it drops to 30%. I argue that this claiming rate is not excessive and not affecting games.
- Faked claims as town (most of these are brief claims and then retractions when the real one outs)
- 1. Cced cop and retracted when cop was uncc: 2times as blue+1 as doc
- 2. Fake claimed pr in non cop set up as blue/pr: 5 times
- 3 fake claimed as clear/pr to reaction test (mostly sheriff):5
- no fake claims as town:
- blue-7
- pr- 6
- as mafia, I often cced and retracted to try to avoid lynches
- fake trolling like claims: 1
- normal mafia games: 14
- game summaries:
- https://epicmafia.com/game/6587202
- died n1 as jan
- https://epicmafia.com/game/6587210
- cced oracle as jan
- https://epicmafia.com/game/6587217
- claimed role as drunk straight
- https://epicmafia.com/game/6587227
- claimed mimic day1 as blue and went into night claiming mimic to bait shot
- https://epicmafia.com/game/6587233
- no fake claims as blue. Acted blue
- https://epicmafia.com/game/6587359
- hooker, shot day1
- https://epicmafia.com/game/6587366/review
- vegged
- https://epicmafia.com/game/6587377
- blue, no fake claims
- https://epicmafia.com/game/6588082
- nilla, no fake claims
- https://epicmafia.com/game/6588555
- vegged
- https://epicmafia.com/game/6588558
- faked carol as nilla with dead caroler but retracted because I was cced and thought I would lose
- https://epicmafia.com/game/6588565
- blue; oracle and sheriff did not out. I claimed oracle to try to die at night when we were nling but told them to fun carol so we got carol. I retracted when sheriff and oracle outed. 6:58 I retracted when sheriff outed
- https://epicmafia.com/game/6588575
- outed fake carol as oracle to get reads
- https://epicmafia.com/game/6588874
- cced caroled as jan
- https://epicmafia.com/game/6591806
- the gunned died and I was gs. I claimed gs to try to die at night and get saved to get the ml back but failed
- https://epicmafia.com/game/6592232
- cced oracle as jan
- https://epicmafia.com/game/6592273
- vegged
- https://epicmafia.com/game/6592284
- jan, fake claimed sheriff and was going to claim oracle but sheriff never outed (blue was dead) so I retracted sheriff claim and we nled
- https://epicmafia.com/game/6592310
- sheriff, outed fake carol
- https://epicmafia.com/game/6592325
- I was caroled blue with dead sheriff so was serious
- https://epicmafia.com/game/6593494
- hooker. Cc caroler hard
- https://epicmafia.com/game/6593539
- cc cop day1 as blue to get cop uncc. I got 1 claim to retract. I then was claiming hooker and cat the rest of the day
- https://epicmafia.com/game/6593644
- blue. Oracle did not out. I claimed and retracted when he outed 8s later\]
- https://epicmafia.com/game/6593981
- blue, no fake claims
- https://epicmafia.com/game/6594002
- jan hipfired day1. No claims
- https://epicmafia.com/game/6594216
- vegged
- https://epicmafia.com/game/6594224
- no ccs. Was gs
- https://epicmafia.com/game/6594419
- vegged
- https://epicmafia.com/game/6594436
- no fake claims. Blue
- https://epicmafia.com/game/6594447
- sheriff; faked carol
- https://epicmafia.com/game/6594452
- blue cced and retracted cop to get cop uncced
- https://epicmafia.com/game/6594460
- blue; pretended to be oracle in set up without oracle
- https://epicmafia.com/game/6594792
- sheriff, pretended to be caroler at start for rxns
- https://epicmafia.com/game/6594810
- hooker. Had to cc oracle or was confirmed
- https://epicmafia.com/game/6594836
- nilla. Cced oracle
- https://epicmafia.com/game/6594856
- doc. Cced cop but retracted when uncced
- https://epicmafia.com/game/6594882
- cc sheriff, oracle, etc as blue and retracted
- https://epicmafia.com/game/6594906
- vegged
- https://epicmafia.com/game/6595965
- cop;regular claims
- https://epicmafia.com/game/6595987
- caroler died n1
- https://epicmafia.com/game/6596015
- cced oracle as nilla
- https://epicmafia.com/game/6596050
- blue no fake claims
- https://epicmafia.com/game/6596091
- caroler no fake claims
- https://epicmafia.com/game/6596103
- blue no fake claims
- https://epicmafia.com/game/6598013
- jan. faked oracle and retracted because I would be lynched
- https://epicmafia.com/game/6598024
- nilla. Cced caroler and retracted to try to escape
- https://epicmafia.com/game/6598029
- nilla cced oracle
- https://epicmafia.com/game/6598039
- oracle, regular claims
- https://epicmafia.com/game/6598050
- blue normal claims
- https://epicmafia.com/game/6598077
- vegged
- https://epicmafia.com/game/6598083
- normal claims as cop
- bin summary,
- While I do fake claim between 30-50% of my town game, this does not interfere with the games at all as I usually quickly retract when the pr claims. Additionally I strategically do this every time to get the prs to out when needed or to save them. Fake claiming to protect prs, get people to out to lead the town when needed, and to reaction test is not trolling. It is a legitimate strategy to protect the town and allow us to win.
- Over half of my town games had no fake claiming at all. The occasional time that I use it is strategically placed and I intentially do it in a way to not interrupt the game. Like I was running on all of my accounts here, so why would I fake claim as town to try to make the town lose when I am running myself and town….
- this trolling violation is bs. Trolling requires me to antagonize players, which never happened. It requires me to disrupt the game, which did not happen according to the sheriff and the fact that we won it in 15min based on our scum hunting. Finally it requires me to try to play with the intent of getting negative reactions from other players. If you read this game, you can clearly see that my only intent was to save the clears and lead town to a win. The clears also confirmed that this is how I played.
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