30 Lesta Nediam LNC2016-10-06 1715 +cabadejo

Lesta Nediam LNC2016-10-06 1715 +cabadejo
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+cabadejo __ What you are describing is "cabadejo's lie system" and not "Lesta's lie system". Just as from time to time I'll have an exchange with Brian Hill and he ends up describing "Brian Hill's lie system" and not "Lesta's lie system". In the same way when John le Bon (JLB) talks about the lie system he is describing "JLB's lie system" and not "Lesta's lie system".

Anyone and everyone is free to take these terms and concepts and use them and misapply them or do whatever they want with them.

*In "Lesta's lie system" there are no mistakes*. I have compromised (largely for your benefit and for the sake of clarity) by referring to mistakes as "fatal mistakes" (because all mistakes would be fatal). We have gone back and forth on this a lot and we seem to be at an impasse.

It is about definitions and those definitions are important. *In Lesta's lie system you will find that every seeming mistake will upon scrutiny turn out to be nothing*. Pranksters make mistakes. Criminals make mistakes. The lie system does not make mistakes. *No trick is attempted that cannot be done*. All seeming mistakes will turn out to be nothing - a dead end - a misdirection.

Lesta's conception of the lie system can and will stand the test of time. Other versions and modifications of it - as presented by other people - will lead to flaws and contradictions.

>>> *It is not good enough that two or more people think something is a mistake if it is not really a mistake*. <<<

Recently "CalcifiedLies" came along and talked sh!t about me and accused me of a whole bunch of bullsh!t things. _If everyone had agreed with him *it does not make it so*_.

Truth is not a democracy. If every person believe X but X is not true then the majority are wrong. *If the majority believe they are right when it is wrong then the majority is paranoid, insane, out of touch with reality*. And that population becomes more vulnerable to making the same flawed conclusions.

"Peekay HIDES Truth" says there are "raindrops in space" and that this is a "fatal mistake" and that this is "how we can know the ISS is fake". But "Peekay" is not correct. *His apparent "mistake" is not really a mistake and just because ten thousand people may end up believing it does not make it so*.

A "fatal mistake" with regard to the "ISS" would be - for example - to see objects moving and behaving as though under full or partial gravity. *If we saw someone clearly juggling while the claim is they were on the "ISS" then that would be a fatal mistake*.

"Building 7" did indeed collapse *but it was near two buildings that allegedly got hit by planes and had already collapsed and apparently it had been hit by debris and was on fire*. You are simply incorrect when you say "nothing hit it". There is a "plausible explanation" for why it fell. Whereas there can be no "plausible explanation" as to why an "astronaut" is juggling in space - he simply cannot be in space.

*Just because you personally do not accept a plausible explanation does not mean it is a fatal mistake*. I am telling you that if you go down that path you are not seeking true things for true reasons and you risk getting lost in paranoia all over again. Rejecting the "official narrative" is how every "hoaxtard" begins their journey!

It is not okay to believe something false "for the greater good". *If the people doing this are bad people then they must be exposed for the right reasons and not ever the wrong reasons*.

*It is not okay to make people believe a mistake which isn't a mistake simply because we know we can make those people believe it and believing it is better for them*.

>>> If my words are lost on you then I am telling you to trust me. <<<

If you cannot trust me on this then you'll need to branch out and form your own "lie system" (like what Brian Hill seems to be doing). *There is a reason why I assert that the "lie system does not make [fatal] mistakes" and it is to avoid a huge trap laid out by the lie system*.

Truth is not subjective and truth is not ever a democracy. It does not matter about "legal definitions". Sometimes truth lines up with personal feeling and sometimes the majority believes that which is true *but truth is never determined by feeling or repetition or legal definitions*.

If the entire world saw an "astronaut" juggling but suppressed the doubt then the "juggling" is not any less of a fatal mistake. It just means that the population is in error (and likely insane).

And in Lesta's lie system - where there are no mistakes - if we saw an "astronaut" juggling it will upon scrutiny turn out to be a dead-end - a misdirection - a "truther trap". It will end up being the case the apparent juggling will be some kind of stunt or trick.

In Lesta's lie system we will NEVER see an "astronaut" juggling WITHOUT it also being a joke/prank etc. But in other people's version of the lie system they might believe it's possible. I am telling you that those people are wrong and can only waste their time and yours on chasing ghosts (that which isn't there to be found).

Just as the "raindrop" will turn out to be nothing. Just as "Building 7" seemed like it collapsed for "no reason" but upon scrutiny there are reasons given for its collapse other than "a trick" (like it would be if an "astronaut" were seen juggling).

If I cannot explain this to you in a way that convinces you no mistakes by the lie system are made *then I am asking you to trust me*. If you cannot trust me then you are going to need to formulate your own version of the "lie system" but I am telling you right now - upfront - that *if you assign the possibility of "fatal mistakes" to the lie system then you will end up no further ahead (and back on the same level) as the "hoaxtards" and "realtards"*.

You will have made no meaningful progress on your understanding of the problem we're in if you keep opening the door to the lie system making fatal mistakes.

*Everything you suggest is a [fatal] mistake will upon scrutiny turn out to be nothing - a dead-end - a misdirection*. I don't know how to emphasise this any more strongly!

The lie system is not the work of amateurs, pranksters or mere criminals. The people participating in lie system events may be fallible and capable of mistakes *but they are being perfectly used*.

>>>>> *I am asking you to trust me that the lie system does not attempt to perform a magic trick it cannot successfully perform*. <<<<<

The only "evidence" we have of there even being a lie system is the consistent withholding of sufficient proof! That's it! (Beyond a subjective feeling "all isn't how it seems and the instinctual rejection of the "plausible explanations" offered to us.)

Withholding sufficient proof is as "objective" as it gets for us (though strictly speaking it's not objective/tangible). Even that alone is not proof positive of there being a lie system - *only that over time the odds of never witnessing sufficient proof for lie system events and claims approaches zero* (that's where our "proof" is found).

The lie system isn't some trivial and whimsical thing. It's the real deal and you cannot expect to take an event or claim and point and say "ah ha! that's a fatal mistake!" - *you can do that only for amateurs, pranksters and mere criminals*!

Truth is not a democracy - it is not subjective - it is not a legal definition - and just because you cannot accept an explanation does not necessarily mean the explanation is false.

*We must reject events and claims for the right reasons and not ever for the wrong reasons*. To point things out and say "that's a mistake!" is to be baited by the lie system and to participate in the planned dichotomy.

>>> Our focus should instead be on *"what necessarily proves this event to be true and real and why haven't I been permitted to see it?"* <<<

This is why the "ISS" is so important. We can expect the nightly news to withhold gore (i.e., sufficient proof of a killing) but the "ISS" doesn't have that excuse! *There is no excuse why we haven't gotten to see sufficient proof for the "ISS" except because sufficient proof is being intentionally withheld* (i.e., the odds of our not being presented with it even accidentally approaches zero - hence intentional).

*It's important you come to terms (so to speak) with the things I've outlined above because you are attributing traits and qualities to the lie system which are not traits and qualities that are a part of "Lesta's lie system"*!

It worries me to see one of the disfigured handful do that because we need to be on the same page else we give a mixed message.

You have been instrumental in helping me to make many breakthroughs over the past 18 months (or however long we've been talking) *and I am now asking you to trust me when I say that I have thought this through*!

I am not trying to trick or mislead you. I can simply see a thinking trap you are at risk of falling into. *I know this because I once fell into it myself. I am urging you to learn from my own mistake*!

>>> A fatal mistake needs to be perceived *but it ALSO needs to be made*. <<<

As I ended my previous message: it's not fair! But nothing about the lie system is fair. It has all the power. We are effectively as rats in an experiment or as ants on an ant farm. The only thing we have going for us is that we can perceive "all is not how it seems" *for the right reasons* without having to claim the Earth is flat or clutch at some other insanity to explain it.

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+nationalparksign, +Terran Downvale - what I wrote above is for the disfigured handful and not specifically to +cabadejo


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