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Tate & Liza strats

Exarion Sep 15th, 2015 (edited) 120 Never
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  1. Variables:
  2. - X Specials needed (1 or 2)
  3. - Speed (below/above or split)
  4. - HP (2 EQs into Torrent, 2 EQs into Psychic range or safe)
  5. - Xatu and Claydol's move on Castform (100% Psychic/EQ or other)
  6. - Rock Smash slave (Pooch, Marill or none)
  7.  
  8. X SPEC  HP      X/C     RS              Strat
  9. 2       safe    100%    Pooch           1
  10. 2       safe    100%    Marill          1
  11. 2       safe    100%    none            2 (werster RS-less)
  12. 2       safe    other   Pooch           3
  13. 2       safe    other   Marill          3
  14. 2       safe    other   none            4 (werster RS-less (abra lead, switch to castform))
  15. 2       Psy     100%    none            5 (werster RS-less (with possible turn 4 heal))
  16. 2       Psy     other   none            6 (werster RS-less (with possible turn 4 heal) (abra lead, switch to castform))
  17. 2       2 EQs   100%    none            5 (werster RS-less (with likely turn 4 heal))
  18. 2       2 EQs   other   none            6 (werster RS-less (with likely turn 4 heal) (abra lead, switch to castform))
  19. 2       2 EQs   100%    Marill          7 (werster non-pooch)
  20. 2       2 EQs   other   Marill          7 (werster non-pooch)
  21.  
  22. 1       safe    100%    none            8 (werster RS-less)
  23. 1       safe    Other   none            9 (werster RS-less (abra lead, switch to castform))
  24. 1       Psy     100%    none            8 (werster RS-less)
  25. 1       Psy     Other   none            9 (werster RS less (abra lead, switch to castform))
  26. 1       2 EQs   100%    none            10 (werster RS-less (4-turn))
  27. 1       2 EQs   Other   none            11 (werster RS-less (4-turn) (abra lead, switch ONLY if EQ+Psychic =/= Torrent))
  28.  
  29. -----
  30.  
  31. Only catch a Rock Smash slave if:
  32. - Your HP is safe, OR
  33. - You need to cut through the grass for experience, you encounter a Marill, and your HP is 2 EQs
  34.  
  35. Never try to get a Rock Smash slave after Route 104! If HP is safe, try to manip it so that RS-less strats work, or just hope Claydol puts you into Torrent with Psychic or high roll EQ+EQ+AP. If HP is 2 EQs, hope for good EQ ranges, and if you don't get them, heal Swampert on turn 4 and hope it gets hit by exactly 1 EQ or Psychic (not just 1 AP).
  36.  
  37. -----
  38.  
  39. SPEED MODIFIERS
  40. - Split speed = Move ONLY Swampert's actions up a turn, removing the X Speed
  41. - Above speed = Always use X Special(s) first and X Speed last (if necessary)
  42.  
  43. -----
  44.  
  45. **STRAT #1**
  46. (SLOT 2: Castform)
  47. Turn 1: X Speed, Powder Snow
  48.    (Castform dies, send out Poochyena)
  49.    (Poochyena dies, send out Abra)
  50. Turn 2: X Special, Revive Castform
  51.    (Abra dies, send out flier)
  52.    (Flier blocks EQ)
  53. Turn 3: Surf, Revive Abra
  54.    (Flier dies, send out Abra)
  55.    (Abra dies, send out Castform)
  56. Turn 4: X Special, Powder Snow
  57.    (Castform dies)
  58. Turn 5: Surf
  59. Turn 6: Surf
  60. [TIME: 1:58]
  61.  
  62. **STRAT #2**
  63. (Slot 2: Castform)
  64. Turn 1: X Speed, Powder Snow
  65.    (Castform dies, send out flier)
  66.    (Flier blocks EQ)
  67. Turn 2: X Special, Revive Castform
  68.    (Flier dies, send out Abra)
  69.    (Abra dies, send out Castform)
  70. Turn 3: Surf, Revive flier
  71.    (Castform dies, send out flier)
  72.    (Flier blocks EQ)
  73. Turn 4: X Special, Fly
  74.    (Taillow dies)
  75.    (Hopefully, Claydol's attack puts Swampert into Torrent)
  76. Turn 5: Surf
  77. Turn 6: Surf
  78. [TIME: x:xx]
  79.  
  80. **STRAT #3**
  81. (Slot 2: Abra)
  82. Turn 1: X Speed, switch to Castform
  83.    (Castform dies, send out Poochyena)
  84.    (Poochyena dies, send out Abra)
  85. Turn 2: X Special, Revive Castform
  86.    (Abra dies, send out flier)
  87.    (Flier blocks EQ)
  88. Turn 3: Surf, Revive Abra
  89.    (Flier dies, send out Abra)
  90.    (Abra dies, send out Castform)
  91. Turn 4: X Special, Powder Snow
  92.    (Castform dies)
  93. Turn 5: Surf
  94. Turn 6: Surf
  95. [TIME: 2:05 + swap before fight]
  96.  
  97. **STRAT #4**
  98. (Slot 2: Abra)
  99. Turn 1: X Speed, switch to Castform
  100.    (Castform dies, send out flier)
  101.    (Flier blocks EQ)
  102. Turn 2: X Special, Revive Castform
  103.    (Flier dies, send out Abra)
  104.    (Abra dies, send out Castform)
  105. Turn 3: Surf, Revive flier
  106.    (Castform dies, send out flier)
  107.    (Flier blocks EQ)
  108. Turn 4: X Special, Fly
  109.    (Flier dies)
  110.    (Hopefully, Claydol's attack puts Swampert into Torrent)
  111. Turn 5: Surf
  112. Turn 6: Surf
  113. [TIME: x:xx + swap]
  114.  
  115. **STRAT #5**
  116. (Slot 2: Castform)
  117. Turn 1: X Speed, Powder Snow
  118.    (Castform dies, send out flier)
  119.    (Flier blocks EQ)
  120. Turn 2: X Special, Revive Castform
  121.    (Flier dies, send out Abra)
  122.    (Abra dies, send out Castform)
  123. Turn 3: Surf, Revive flier
  124.    (Castform dies, send out flier)
  125.    (Flier blocks EQ)
  126. Turn 4: X Special, Fly OR use Potion or Super Potion on Swampert
  127.    (Flier dies)
  128.    (Hopefully, Xatu and Claydol's attack(s) put Swampert into Torrent)
  129. Turn 5: Surf
  130. Turn 6: Surf
  131. [TIME: x:xx]
  132.  
  133. **STRAT #6**
  134. (Slot 2: Abra)
  135. Turn 1: X Speed, switch to Abra
  136.    (Castform dies, send out flier)
  137.    (Flier blocks EQ)
  138. Turn 2: X Special, Revive Castform
  139.    (Flier dies, send out Abra)
  140.    (Abra dies, send out Castform)
  141. Turn 3: Surf, Revive flier
  142.    (Castform dies, send out flier)
  143.    (Flier blocks EQ)
  144. Turn 4: X Special, Fly OR use Potion or Super Potion on Swampert
  145.    (Flier dies)
  146.    (Hopefully, Xatu and Claydol's attack(s) put Swampert into Torrent)
  147. Turn 5: Surf
  148. Turn 6: Surf
  149. [TIME: x:xx + swap)
  150.  
  151. **STRAT #7**
  152. (Slot 2: flier)
  153. Turn 1: X Speed, Fly
  154.    (Flier dies, send out Castform)
  155.    (IF Castform dies, send out Abra)
  156. Turn 2: X Special, Revive flier
  157.    (Abra dies, send out flier)
  158.    (Flier blocks EQ)
  159. Turn 3: Surf, Revive Abra
  160.    (Flier dies, send out Marill)
  161.    (Marill dies, send out Abra)
  162. Turn 4: X Special, Teleport
  163.    (Abra dies)
  164. Turn 5: Surf
  165. Turn 6: Surf
  166. NOTE: If Castform lives turn 1 (Ancientpower), just attack on turn 3, because you don't need to Revive Abra
  167. [TIME: x:xx)
  168.  
  169. **STRAT #8**
  170. (Slot 2: Castform)
  171. Turn 1: X Speed, switch to flier
  172.    (Flier dies, send out Abra)
  173.    (Abra dies, send out Castform)
  174. Turn 2: X Special, Revive flier
  175.    (Castform dies, send out flier)
  176.    (Flier blocks EQ)
  177. Turn 3: Surf, Fly
  178.    (Flier dies)
  179.    (Hopefully, Claydol's attack puts Swampert into Torrent)
  180. Turn 4: Surf
  181. Turn 5: Surf
  182. [TIME: x:xx]
  183.  
  184. **STRAT #9**
  185. (Slot 2: Abra)
  186. Turn 1: X Speed, switch to flier
  187.    (Flier dies, send out Abra)
  188.    (Abra dies, send out Castform)
  189. Turn 2: X Special, Revive flier
  190.    (Castform dies, send out flier)
  191.    (Flier blocks EQ)
  192. Turn 3: Surf, Fly
  193.    (Flier dies)
  194.    (Hopefully, Claydol's attack puts Swampert into Torrent)
  195. Turn 4: Surf
  196. Turn 5: Surf
  197. [TIME: x:xx + swap]
  198.  
  199. **STRAT #10**
  200. (Slot 2: Castform)
  201. Turn 1: X Speed, Powder Snow
  202.         (Castform dies, send out flier)
  203.         (Flier blocks EQ)
  204. Turn 2: X Special, Revive Castform
  205.         (Flier dies, send out Abra)
  206.         (Abra dies, send out Castform)
  207. Turn 3: Surf, Powder Snow
  208.         (Castform dies)
  209. Turn 4: Surf
  210. Turn 5: Surf
  211.  
  212. **STRAT #11**
  213. x
  214. x
  215. x
  216.  
  217. TO ADD:
  218. - rs slaveless fast strat is 1:21
  219. - above speed strats should x spec, then surf, then x spec, then x speed ONLY IF CLAYDOL DIDN'T CRIT (if he did, skipping the X Speed means Claydol can't hit you, and Xatu has a 50% chance of hitting you)
  220. - rs full hp strat with claydol psychic works if you lead with abra
  221. - EQ+EQ+AP is not that bad (because if AP doesn't put you in torrent, you still win if xatu uses psychic). so seriously consider RS slaveless with bad Sp. Atk (unless easy Lv. 6/7)
  222. - Teach Rock Tomb later in case you get early Marshtomp (in which case you'd sell it)?
  223. - Castform almost always dies to Xatu's Psychic (REQUIRES +Sp. Def, high IV AND bad range). If you have all 3, use same strat as Claydol Psychic/either
  224. - For split speed, just include some general modifier to avoid twice as many entries (it's always the same idea, right?)
  225. - Rock Smash slave-less works very well if EQ+EQ+Psychic kills (Potion on slave's turn, only risk is both targeting bird w/ Claydol AP not into Torrent, but that's <10%)
  226. - rs slaveless slow strat is 1:48 (EQ+EQ+AP/Psychic), saving 10 or 17 seconds (17 with bad Castform). involves flexibility on last turn (if in psychic kill range, potion; if not, normal strats and let claydol AP/psychic --> torrent)
  227. - CLAYDOL ALWAYS EQS CASTFORM WHEN IT CAN KILL. SO FULL HP CASTFORM IS THE ONLY WORRY. meaning leading with abra and switching to castform always works unless castform survives xatu's psychic
  228.  
  229. TO ADD (Oct. 12)
  230. - NO EXTRA TURNS: If Castform will survive EQ from Claydol, you can easily do RS less with bad Special and safe HP (abra lead, switch to flier immediately, flier dies, send out castform. so castform survives and draws a 3rd EQ)
  231. - ONE EXTRA TURN OR NEED TORRENT FROM AP/PSYCHIC: There appear be other strats that allow RS-less to work with bad Special (like getting AP to Revived Castform, drawing a 3rd EQ if you switch to Taillow)
  232. - Explanation (important): RS-less risks a fight in which you either need AP/Psychic into Torrent OR must go to +3 Sp. Atk while reviving slaves (if AP Castform). However, this risk is not present if Castform will survive EQ. Also, if you can't take EQ+EQ+Psychic or can't take EQ+EQ+EQ, the fight has added risk even with a RS slave, so might as well take the AP/Psychic risk
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