talking about Blitzo

from /hhg/ Helluva Hotel general #819, #820
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>Blitzo uses murder as a coping mechanism
>his entire business is built around murdering random people that others want dead
>he's afraid of emotions, and tries to leech it off of others - intruding into other relationships, or pretending there are deeper connections between him and others, where there clearly aren't
>afraid of commitment and attachment, he pushes people away from himself, but struggles to kill those he feels or felt a connection too - he developed a profound fear of loneliness, and a fear of loss
>so, there's reason to assume he started his assassin business in order to experience a sense of justice vicariously, by killing those who have - in one way or another - wronged his clients
>there's also the implication that something gave him a taste for murder, but scarred him enough that he now refuses to do it for personal reasons, and tries to keep it professional
>aside from his fear of commitment and (paradoxically) abandonment, his vicariousness and poor coping mechanisms, it's also abundantly clear he's generally afraid of being a failure - unable to find success on his own feet, with a need to prove himself beyond reason
>there has to be something at the bottom of all of this

I'm calling it.
Blitzo killed his own father.
And it was all downhill from there.
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blitzo is guts confirmed?
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The whole "facing your inner demons" scene could've been much better if Fizz would've transformed into Blitzo's dad, and if there would've been another dark figure representing Blitzo's desire to lust for murder.
If he uses it as a coping mechanism, who's to say it hasn't become an addiction.
It would've been cool to see somekind of manifestation of this darker part of his mind just appear and begin killing off the others, even if it was just a "Dark" colorswap of him with more edgier details.
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Can't be done since Blitzo is supposed to be relatable to the audience, i;e you need to feel pity for him. Actually exploring and putting into focus just how really evil and morally depraved Blitzo and IMP is as a whole would be too much of a turn off for most of the audience.
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Blitzo already struts the line between "relatable" and "designated protagonist" with WIDE sidesteps in either direction. Also, even if it's unrelateable, facing one's Jungian shadow is still a very enjoyable trope, if executed well.

Also, lashing out in response to abuse, and being afraid of going too far and loosing control seem pretty universal in this day and age.
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I just think that Brandon and Vivziepop recognize that their audience doesn't wan't to actually explore that route of, as you said exploring ones Jungian shadow, or in this case the more unpalatable aspects of that shadow. Showing that someone has trouble with intimacy or rejection is very easy to sympathize with and is relatable to the audience.
But showing that someone suffers from depersonalization, sadism or any of the other aspects of a dark triad personality is at its core repulsive and disturbing and I dont think that was really the writers intention when they were coming up with Blitzo.
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There's also the whole argument of "if you wanted that, why didn't you just read/watch everything else that can do it more justice?"
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Fair enough. And to be fair, keeping the catharsis factor low is probably the right call with this show, although I fear it'll lead to shallower payoffs.
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That's pretty much it, people are coming into this show with the expectation that it will be a deep character exploration of warped, flawed individuals trying to overcome their mental pathologies. It is understandable since Helluva Boss has a very grim, bloodsoaked appearance that's centered around demonic assassins trying to work their way up the business ladder.

Unfortunately for them this show seems to be far more saccharine and light hearted than what they would probably like and would lead to a bit of confusion, which is understandable since this show suffers from a good deal of tonal whiplash both between episodes and even within episodes.
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>people are coming into this show with the expectation that it will be a deep character exploration of warped, flawed individuals trying to overcome their mental pathologies
I highly doubt that's the case
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That's true.
I'd like to imagine a more grittier, tonally consistent version of the show.
>Blitzo is a neurotic, narcissistic person, who, while being aware that he has a repulsive personality and poor coping mechanisms, still does little to nothing about it, until all his issues inadvertently bubble up to the surface, and his increasingly conscious denial and suppression of the matter begins building towards a breakdown - all the while, his addiction to murder grows worse and worse, slowly adding a fear of his own self on top of all his other problems

>Moxxie desperately tries to hold onto this idea of normalcy, seeing himself as both a civilized Samaritan and artistic intellectual (all of which stems from his own rebellious attempt at breaking with his supposedly criminal family's traditions), all the while suppressing his own frank urges towards violence, and living out his bloodlust through Millie in the same, vicarious manner as Blitzo tries to experience emotions

>while arguably being in the best place mentally among basically every other character, with a surprising emotional stability considering how murder-happy and amoral she is (especially when facing humans), Millie is still just as heavily attached to Moxxie as he is to her, and frequently worries about her husband, who's basically a fish out of water in their line of work, despite his marksmanship

>Loona is still a socially awkward and vindictive junk ie, who, while having the self-awareness and intellect to realize how bad of a situation she is in, lacks the drive to seriously change it, and just resents everyone around herself in order to not have to face the music
>Stolas is still a flightly, lustful and capricious individual who's so touch-, and love-starved that he doesn't even fully understand just how damaged of an individual Blitzo is, and thus, only contributes to his misery, as well as the misery to those around him
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>Helluva boss if it was made by actually good writters
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It all depends on how successful the show is. They're still only partway through the first season. They need to just prove they can be profitable. Some shows didn't really start being what we think of them as until their second or third season when they had momentum and could afford to take risks on things that aren't focus group-approved.