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Pokemon Super Mystery Dungeon Speedrunning Notes

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  1. UPDATES: 3/15/2016
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  3. Hey guys, just a heads up that this guide is DEFINITELY not dead. I just need to confirm the route and try out new stat boost patterns!
  4. Some things to confirm:
  5. 1) Time gain/loss compared to "Give Up" strategies
  6. 2) Consistency of non-forced missions to get Bronze Rank
  7.  
  8. [[PSMD ROUTING]]
  9.  
  10. TECHNICALS
  11. Rank Points (RP) Attainment
  12. >> Any mission completed BEFORE obtaining the true Expedition Badge in C12 will not count towards RP
  13. >> Mission RP is calculated by (10 * (D + MF)), where D = Dungeon Difficulty and MF = Mission Floor Clear
  14. >> Dungeon RP is calculated by (10 * (D + DF)), where D = Dungeon Difficulty and DF = Dungeon Floors Explored
  15. >> Rank Points roll over to subsequent ranks
  16. >> Normal Rank attained at 200 RP, which requires 2 days at minimum regardless of optional missions taken
  17. >> Bronze Rank attained at 700 RP after Normal Rank, which can be met before C14 expedition at Fire Island Volcano begins
  18. >> Silver Rank attained at 1500 RP after Bronze Rank, but is insignificant
  19. >> Gold Rank attained at 3000 RP after Silver Rank, which allows for a 48-item bag (Gold might not be necessary)
  20. >> ALL OTHER RANKS ARE NOT NEEDED
  21. Stat-Up Vitamin Usage
  22. >> Prioritize Sp. Atk on Charmander, Atk. on Chespin (Def. and Sp. Def. are safety, Speed for accuracy)
  23. >> Do NOT use any permanent stat-boost items until defeating Cobalion and grabbing the Water Looplet
  24. Move Order - Charmander (assume no WM's)
  25. >> Replace Tackle with Ember at LV. 7
  26. >> Replace Ember with Flamethrower at C12 if possible
  27. Move Order - Chespin (assume no WM's)
  28. >> Replace Defense Curl with Bite at LV. 8
  29. >> Replace Tackle with Bulldoze at C12 if possible
  30.  
  31. PRE-RUN
  32. Pokemon Choice
  33. >> Main Charmander, Partner Chespin
  34. If WM's Allowed (Reset and Get)
  35. >> REQUIRED: Bulldoze x1 (4948Y0FX | XMK5JQQM) Needed for Chespin, replace Defense Curl
  36. >> SAFETY: Flame Charge x1 (HK5R3N47 | FSHH6SR0) Optional for Charmander, replace Scratch
  37. >> SAFETY: Sitrus Berry x2 (3R62CR63 | WCJT275J) Optional Charmander HP-Boosting
  38. >> REQUIRED: PP-Up Drink x1 (MCCH6XY6 | SFSJWK0H) For Charmander Flamethrower
  39. >> REQUIRED: Power Drink x1 (Y9911412 | CNTSN2F1) For Charmander Flamethrower
  40. >> REQUIRED: Accuracy Drink x1 (27JSR0PF | H6W7K262) For Charmander Flame Burst/Dragon Rage (preference)
  41. >> SAFETY: Life Seed x2 (WJNTY478 | SH8XMF1T) Optional Charmander HP-Boosting
  42. >> SAFETY: Blast Wand x20 (3TWJMK2C | CFSH962H) Optional path-opening, enemy clearing
  43. >> REQUIRED: Guiding Wand x20 (SK5P778R | 0R7910P7) For staircase-locating
  44. >> SAFETY: Petrify Wand x20 (TY26446X | 8QXR93P5) Optional boss-fighting
  45.  
  46. C1
  47. Open Pass
  48. >> Charmander: Focus training on Flame Burst, Bite is secondary
  49. Lush Forest
  50.  
  51. C2
  52. Foreboding Forest
  53.  
  54. C3
  55. Drilbur Coal Mine
  56. >> Chespin: Focus training on Pin Missile/Vine Whip, Bite (when learned) is secondary
  57. >> Can bring Blast Seeds (x2)
  58. >> Can remove all Reviver Seeds and be defeated
  59.  
  60. C4
  61. School Forest
  62. >> Need to test being defeated
  63. Glittering Mountain
  64. >> Need to test being defeated
  65.  
  66. C5
  67. Nectar Meadow
  68. >> Can defeat...
  69. >> Or be deafeated (bring no Reviver Seeds)
  70. -> Sell Perfect Apple (500)
  71.  
  72. C6
  73. Poliwrath River
  74. >> Cannot use Blast Seeds, so don't bring any
  75. Sylveon (Foreboding Forest)
  76. Vulpix (Cave of Training)
  77. Axew (Lush Forest)
  78. >> Bring Blast Seed x3 + Petrify Wands
  79. Raichu (Cave of Training)
  80. >> Optional
  81. Pachirisu (Uprise Range)
  82. >> Optional
  83.  
  84. C7
  85. Emolga/Munchlax (Cave of Training)
  86. >> Optional
  87. Cubone/Whiscash (Uprise Range)
  88. >> Optional
  89.  
  90. C8
  91. Ancient Barrow
  92.  
  93. C9
  94. Picking Teammate
  95. >> Shelmet - ???
  96. >> Pancham - ???
  97. >> Goomy - ???
  98. >> Deerling - Whirlwind Wand (x5)
  99. >> Espurr - Silver Spike (x5)
  100. Mr. Mime (Uprise Range)
  101. >> BRING STAYAWAY/PETRIFY WANDS
  102. >> Optional
  103. Vaporeon (Odd Field)
  104. >> Optional
  105. Revelation Mountain
  106.  
  107. C10
  108. Whimsicott (Odd Field)
  109. >> Optional
  110. Talk to All Plaza Pokemon:
  111. >> Kangaskhan (pick up all items)
  112. >> Kecleon (buy/sell stuff)
  113. >> Magnezone
  114. >> Raticate
  115. >> Deerling
  116. >> Goomy
  117. >> Hawlucha
  118. >> Pancham
  119. >> Shelmet
  120. >> Lombre
  121. Drowzee/Ralts (Stone Field)
  122. >> Optional
  123.  
  124. C11
  125. Sheer Mountain Range
  126. >> Pounce Wands (continually warp and check for stair location)
  127. Gentle Slope Cave
  128. Lively Town (Entrance)
  129. >> Make sure to remove all Reviver Seeds for upcoming Jirachi fight
  130.  
  131. C12
  132. Jirachi (Expedition Society)
  133. >> Just lose
  134. Lively Town (Intermission)
  135. >> IF WM'S ALLOWED - If you have 4 Gold Bars, grab Flamethrower TM and teach to Charmander, replacing Flame Burst
  136. >> IF WM'S BANNED - If you have 2 Gold Bars, grab a Bulldoze TM and teach it to Chespin, replacing Tackle
  137. Zorua (Electric Wasteland)
  138. >> Might have some trouble with this one - Dragon Rage is EXTREMELY useful to get rid of Claydol/Machoke
  139. Pokemon Nexus Restored
  140. >> Need 200 points to attain Normal Rank and 650 to attain Bronze Rank - this is important to get the 40-item bag and access to Cobalion
  141. *** DAY 1
  142. Rampardos (Lively Town)
  143. >> Optional
  144. >> Accept mission to give letter to Cinccino
  145. Petilil (Peewee Meadow)
  146. >> Dragonite is useful vs. Cobalion
  147. >> Completing mission gives 70 RP (6F)
  148. >> Completing dungeon gives 80 RP (7F)
  149. *** DAY 2 - Any mission will do:
  150. Wynaut (Longfield Cave)
  151. >> Bring a Truant Wand and Reviver Seed to force Final Gambit from Primeape
  152. >> Completing mission gives 50 RP (3F)
  153. >> Completing dungeon gives 80 RP (6F)
  154. Mankey/Quagsire (Odd Field)
  155. >> Completing missions gives 110 RP (4F/5F)
  156. >> Completing dungeon gives 70 RP (6F)
  157. Sneasel (Electric Wasteland)
  158. >> Completing mission gives 100 RP (8F)
  159. >> Completing dungeon gives 120 RP (10F)
  160. Bayleef (Nectar Meadow)
  161. >> Completing mission gives 90 RP (9F)
  162. >> Completing dungeon gives 90 RP (9F)
  163. Lillipup (Poliwrath River)
  164. >> Completing mission gives 90 RP (9F)
  165. >> Completing dungeon gives 90 RP (9F)
  166. *** Day 3 - Any mission from the past set will do:
  167. Normal Rank (Expedition HQ)
  168. >> Upgrade to Normal Rank (Bronze will require 650 RP afterwards)
  169.  
  170. C13
  171. Rank Points
  172. >> Testing: Petilil -> Wynaut -> Mankey/Quagsire gives 470 RP remaining
  173. Lapras
  174. >> If possible, accept mission from Smeargle (Sheer Mountain Range) in Cafe
  175. Rampardos (Baram Town)
  176. >> Optional
  177. >> Give the letter to Cinccino in the Cafe
  178. Mystical Forest
  179. *** DAY 1 - Any mission will do (first recommended, new ones listed):
  180. Snorlax/Smeargle (Water|Sheer Mountain Range)
  181. >> Snorlax on 9F gives 100 RP (needs Apple)
  182. >> Completing mission gives 130 RP (12F)
  183. >> Completing dungeon gives 140 RP (13F)
  184. Wobbuffet (Air|Mysterious Plains)
  185. >> Completing mission gives ?? RP (2F)
  186. >> Completing dungeon gives ?? RP (?F)
  187. Flareon - (Air|Forest of Bounty)
  188. >> Completing mission gives ?? RP (?F)
  189. >> Completing dungeon gives ?? RP (?F)
  190. *** DAY 2 - Any mission will do (first recommended, new ones listed):
  191. Pansear (Water|Peewee Meadow)
  192. >> With Snorlax/Smeargle completed, 100 RP left, so Escape Orb at 6F (can keep going for Gold Rank, but that's SUPER unlikely)
  193. >> Completing mission gives 30 RP (2F)
  194. >> Completing dungeon gives 80 RP (7F)
  195. Carnivine (Air|Small Sand Dune)
  196. >> Completing mission gives ?? RP (3F)
  197. >> Completing dungeon gives ?? RP (?F)
  198.  
  199. C14
  200. >> MAKE SURE TO RANK UP TO NORMAL RANK (40-Item Bag!)
  201. >> OPTIMIZATION: Can immediately talk to Dedenne - Deposit Box exists at the site (selling items optional)
  202. Fire Island Volcano
  203. >> BRING GUIDING WANDS
  204. >> Pit stop after 6F - you need Reviver Seeds for the Magmortar fight (estimated 6)
  205. Magmortar Fight
  206. >> Turn 1: Alliance attack bottom right
  207. >> Turn 2: Petrify Wand Magmortar
  208. >> Continue Alliance barrage
  209. >> Fainting here sends you back to the pit stop
  210. Entei Fight
  211. >> Phase 1 (Safety): Defeat him as usual
  212. >> Phase 1 (Risky): Remove your Reviver Seeds and lose
  213. >> Phase 2: Fainting here sends you ALL the way back to the pit stop, so DO NOT LOSE
  214. *** DAY 1 - COBALION TIME:
  215. Cobalion (Water|Pledge Hill):
  216. >> BRING TRUANT/PETRIFY WANDS
  217. >> Metal Burst OHKO's Dragonite upon damage reflect - bring Reviver Seeds
  218. >> Defeating Cobalion gives 150 RP (10F, Difficulty 5)
  219. >> Completing dungeon gives 150 RP (10F)
  220. *** DAY 2 - STAT-BOOSTING TIME:
  221. >> Gallade in the Water Cafe (Letter to Roserade) is optional
  222. >> PULL ALL REWARDS FROM THE CAFE
  223. >> EQUIP WATER LOOPLET + GRAB ALL STAT-BOOSTING ITEMS
  224. >> Any mission is fine - fastest is with Aurorus on Air Continent
  225. >> Gengar (to Banette [Grass]) and Munna (to Gigalith [Mist]) in the Air Town are optional
  226. >> Wobbuffet mission (Air|Mysterious Plains) recommended for 2F clear
  227. Aurorus (Air|Mystical Forest)
  228. >> Completing mission gives ?? RP (6F)
  229. >> Completing dungeon gives ?? RP (?F)
  230. *** DAY 3 - SKIP (Escape Orb)
  231. *** DAY 4 - SKIP (Escape Orb)
  232.  
  233. C15
  234. Showdown Mountain (11F)
  235. *** DAY 1 - SKIP (Escape Orb)
  236.  
  237. <Routing: Charmander LV21 57/34/58/38/39>
  238. <Routing: Chespin LV20 57/37/55/32/32>
  239.  
  240. C16
  241. Revelation Mountain (13F)
  242.  
  243. C17
  244. Abyssal Badlands
  245. >> Pit stop after 7F - Water Looplet is NOT usable due to story quest
  246. Cave of the Deep
  247. >> WATCH THE DITTO ITEM SPAWNS
  248.  
  249. C18
  250. Calm Craggy Area
  251. >> Pit stop after 4F, boss after 7F
  252. Reverse Mountain (9F)
  253. >> Bring Elixirs for Spiritomb Pressure
  254. >> Pit stop after 6F, boss after 9F
  255. >> BRING PETRIFY WANDS
  256. Mega Tyranitar + Mega Gengar
  257. >> Left x3 + Petrify Wand on Tyranitar
  258. >> Spam Alliances against Shadows + Mega Gengar (Left), Suicune takes care of Mega Gengar (Right)
  259.  
  260. C19
  261. Expedition Society HQ
  262. >> STORE ALL REVIVER SEEDS FOR UPCOMiNG BEHEEYEM FIGHT
  263. Beheeyem Fight
  264. >> Just lose lol
  265.  
  266. C20
  267. Lively Town + Lapras
  268. >> You can use Lapras to reset the Kecleon Shop items
  269. >> Not very useful to repeatedly use Lapras, except for Escape Orbs
  270. Prehistoric Ruins
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