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- 1. The information below is for those that have been scammed on Indiegogo or other crowdfunding
- 2.
- 3. web based platforms.
- 4.
- 5. You can get a refund through a chargeback from your credit card provider. This also applies
- 6.
- 7. to goods that were ordered and have not
- 8.
- 9. been delivered to you for any reason.
- 10.
- 11. Part 1/7
- 12.
- 13. You have until the 28 Sept 2019 to claim a chargeback, it doesn’t matter how
- 14.
- 15. long ago your transaction was nor in which country you are this information is
- 16.
- 17. valid for you to get a refund through a chargeback.
- 18.
- 19. Reason codes for non-delivery of goods with a delayed delivery date (a delayed
- 20.
- 21. delivery date is a date given whereby goods will be delivered by a given date, in
- 22.
- 23. this instance it is the May date given in the Dec 2018 update)
- 24.
- 25. Visa 13.1
- 26.
- 27. Mastercard 4855
- 28.
- 29. Amex 4554
- 30.
- 31. Part 2/7
- 32.
- 33. Ensure you ask to speak to the disputes team (this team are the ones who
- 34.
- 35. understand the modifier and the terms and conditions governing chargebacks)
- 36.
- 37. and tell the consultant your chargeback is for non-delivery of goods – not fraud –
- 38.
- 39. Fraud can be difficult to prove whereas non-delivery of goods is straightforward,
- 40.
- 41. that is, you have or have not received your goods.
- 42.
- 43. Below in “ “ are the terms stated by Visa, Mastercard, and Amex:
- 44.
- 45. Part 3/7
- 46.
- 47. “Time Frame – In cases involving delayed delivery of goods or services and
- 48.
- 49. the delivery or performance date was specified by the merchant and the
- 50.
- 51. latest anticipated delivery or performance date was specified by the merchant
- 52.
- 53. has passed: within 120 calendar days of the latest anticipated delivery
- 54.
- 55. performance date specified by the merchant”
- 56.
- 57. Part 4/7
- 58.
- 59. The normal time frame for chargebacks is 120 days from the date a transaction
- 60.
- 61. was processed, however in the case of a delayed delivery date given there is a
- 62.
- 63. modifier (this is a clause that changes the 120-day limit) which extends the
- 64.
- 65. chargeback claim to 120 days from the expected delivery date.
- 66.
- 67. Part 5/7
- 68.
- 69. The following links may also assist
- 70.
- 71. The link below shows the Global T&C’s for – ALL– Mastercards
- 72.
- 73. https://www.mastercard.us/content/dam/mccom/global/documents/chargeback-guide.pdf
- 74.
- 75. Link shows the timeframe pages 48/49 Reason Code 4855
- 76.
- 77. You’ll see Appendix A Chargebacks Mastercard Europe ATM Transactions
- 78.
- 79. (Mastercard, Maestro, & Cirrus) is for Europe
- 80.
- 81. Page 326 shows interregional reason code 4855 also has the 120-day timeframe.
- 82.
- 83. Part 6/7
- 84.
- 85. This link is Global T&Cs for ALL Visa cards
- 86.
- 87. https://usa.visa.com/dam/VCOM/download/about-visa/visa-rules-public.pdf
- 88.
- 89. Timeframes Page 679 Reason Code 13.1
- 90.
- 91. The link below shows the Global T&C’s for – ALL– Amex
- 92.
- 93. Note: the AMEX link shows an Australian phone contact number but show
- 94.
- 95. Amex’s – Global – terms and conditions
- 96.
- 97. https://www.americanexpress.com/content/dam/amex/au/en/merchant/static/chargebackcodeguide.pdf
- 98.
- 99. Timeframes page 21
- 100.
- 101. Part 7/7
- 102.
- 103. Then get back onto your credit card provider and ask to speak to the disputes
- 104.
- 105. team, do not take no for an answer be insistent but firm.
- 106.
- 107. Additionally, if you are refused a chargeback or had it reversed ask the disputes
- 108.
- 109. team to put in writing, to you, the clauses on which they are relying to refuse
- 110.
- 111. your claim.
- 112.
- 113. If - after – reading my post and relevant link you still have questions post them
- 114.
- 115. in the comments section of the Mini PC Indiegogo webpage and I’ll do my best to
- 116.
- 117. assist you.
- 118.
- The information below is for those that have been scammed on Indiegogo or other crowdfunding
- web-based platforms. This also applies if you have not received goods in any online transaction.
- You can get a refund through a chargeback from your credit card provider. This also applies to goods
- that were ordered and have not
- been delivered to you for any reason.
- Part 1/7
- You have until the 28 Sept 2019 to claim a chargeback, it doesn’t matter how
- long ago your transaction was nor in which country you are this information is
- valid for you to get a refund through a chargeback.
- Reason codes for non-delivery of goods with a delayed delivery date (a delayed
- delivery date is a date given whereby goods will be delivered by a given date, in
- this instance it is the May date given in the Dec 2018 update)
- Visa 13.1
- Mastercard 4855
- Amex 4554
- Part 2/7
- Ensure you ask to speak to the disputes team (this team are the ones who
- understand the modifier and the terms and conditions governing chargebacks)
- and tell the consultant your chargeback is for non-delivery of goods – not fraud –
- Fraud can be difficult to prove whereas non-delivery of goods is straightforward,
- that is, you have or have not received your goods.
- Below in “ “ are the terms stated by Visa, Mastercard, and Amex:
- Part 3/7
- “Time Frame – In cases involving delayed delivery of goods or services and
- the delivery or performance date was specified by the merchant and the
- latest anticipated delivery or performance date was specified by the merchant
- has passed: within 120 calendar days of the latest anticipated delivery
- performance date specified by the merchant”
- Part 4/7
- The normal time frame for chargebacks is 120 days from the date a transaction
- was processed, however in the case of a delayed delivery date given there is a
- modifier (this is a clause that changes the 120-day limit) which extends the
- chargeback claim to 120 days from the expected delivery date.
- Part 5/7
- The following links may also assist
- The link below shows the Global T&C’s for – ALL– Mastercards
- https://www.mastercard.us/content/dam/mccom/global/documents/chargeback-guide.pdf
- Link shows the timeframe pages 48/49 Reason Code 4855
- You’ll see Appendix A Chargebacks Mastercard Europe ATM Transactions
- (Mastercard, Maestro, & Cirrus) is for Europe
- Page 326 shows interregional reason code 4855 also has the 120-day timeframe.
- Part 6/7
- This link is Global T&Cs for ALL Visa cards
- https://usa.visa.com/dam/VCOM/download/about-visa/visa-rules-public.pdf
- Timeframes Page 679 Reason Code 13.1
- The link below shows the Global T&C’s for – ALL– Amex
- Note: the AMEX link shows an Australian phone contact number but show
- Amex’s – Global – terms and conditions
- https://www.americanexpress.com/content/dam/amex/au/en/merchant/static/chargebackcodeguide.pdf
- Timeframes page 21
- Part 7/7
- Then get back onto your credit card provider and ask to speak to the disputes
- team, do not take no for an answer be insistent but firm.
- Additionally, if you are refused a chargeback or had it reversed ask the disputes
- team to put in writing, to you, the clauses on which they are relying to refuse your
- claim.
- If - after – reading my post and relevant link you still have questions post them
- in the comments section of the Mini PC Indiegogo webpage and I’ll do my best to assist you.
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