@TheRationaliser you claimed I didn't respond to your question then you wrote a 'piece' and you still carry on. Looks like a #Troll to me
@TheRationaliser @mehdirhasan be careful this ones a #troll with #OCD.
@TheRationaliser @CEMB_forum @MaryamNamazie unlike you im hoping Maryam can keep up with a discussion. Lol #troll
@TheRationaliser which exposes your allegation that I avoided the subject .Tut tut you lack the maturity to Engage in these subjects Sadly
@TheRationaliser @ribladiar it's funny how a fellow atheist even brought to your attention my answer to a similar question. Stop trolling.
@ribladiar @TheRationaliser lol. act like a #troll get ignored then claim victory. Typical #atheistbrat tactics
@TheRationaliser lol more like "unanswered questions- asking the same question ad nauseum even though it's been answered" #troll
@TheRationaliser @futilityfiles @KiranOpal and you are a pity attention seeker. :)
@TheRationaliser @Joseph_OA it was a rhetorical question.
@TheRationaliser @Joseph_OA should we sentence the loin for murder?
@TheRationaliser ??! I think we will end it here quite frankly.Scroll for my response to why muslims shouldn't torture animals given x y z
@TheRationaliser so therefore you need to apologies for claiming I was lying. @ribladiar
@TheRationaliser @ribladiar or you could have simply kept up with the convo or leant how to use scroll.
@TheRationaliser bloody hell now you're repeating your repetition. Trolling and #OCD . #worrying
@TheRationaliser lol when in doubt just repeat your question. FYI saying that you will be called a #troll doesn't mean you get away with it
@TheRationaliser yes of course due to the profundity of your questioning. I guess that's why noone will debate you. @ribladiar
@ribladiar @TheRationaliser "debate" is that what they call it.
@TheRationaliser no we don't. It's not relevant if God doesn't exist. That's the point .answer the question stop avoiding it @garmin_calibr
@EvidencedProof but if someone wanted to harm animals why would it be morally wrong if atheism was true? @Esquisite @TheRationaliser
@garmin_calibr question is why? Given animals do it all the time and moral blame doesn't exist within the animal kingdom. @TheRationaliser
@TheRationaliser so I'm lying now? I thought it couldn't get any worse. This is why I tend to ignore you. @Esquisite
@Esquisite but cruelty is a moral term. Morality doesn't within the animal kingdom. @TheRationaliser
@Esquisite that's an assertion not an argument. You're giving special significance to animals that doesn't exist @TheRationaliser
@TheRationaliser it's called bored of repeating myself. Now answer my question? @Esquisite
@tzioneretz what status do animal rights have in china? I'm sure you find many cases if animal abuse @TheRationaliser
@Esquisite and? @TheRationaliser
@TheRationaliser lol it was finished last week that's why you're the only one still continuing from the original group with same questions
@Esquisite how can we justify the existence of the RSPCA given we are animals and animals cause pain to other animals ? @TheRationaliser
@TheRationaliser when you can be bothered to follow a discussion I will invest more time into your questions . Until then... @Esquisite
@TheRationaliser changing the subject is when you get asked a question about your own views. Nice try. @Esquisite
@TheRationaliser lol says the man that is incompetent when it comes justifying his own world view. @Esquisite
@TheRationaliser I know you think you are on to something here lol @Esquisite
@TheRationaliser sure. What's next "debate me" . #Childish #sigh @Esquisite
@TheRationaliser you are too keen in making logical jumps to 'prove' a point. This is why its a futile exercise discussing with you.
@TheRationaliser who said irrelevant? I said not the same but that doesn't mean it's not important.
@TheRationaliser lol more like lots of repetition. I have already answered the question . #Plslearntomoveon
@TheRationaliser pls explain the point of the RSPCA given that we are animals and animals cause pain to other animals all the time?
@Lee_Symes @TheRationaliser I don't think you understand the point here. Without #God you must hold a non realist view of mortality.
@Lee_Symes @TheRationaliser actually it did. It's implicit within my question there isn't an alternative. Now pls answer my question.
@Lee_Symes can you suggest an alternative viable view? @TheRationaliser
@TheRationaliser #sigh . Question: As an #atheist why is it wrong to torture animals? Animals cause pain to other animals all the time?
@TheRationaliser you need to keep up with twitter conversations.
@TheRationaliser you ask the same question but in different ways . I have already explained how we should respond to animals suffering.
@aparticularA @TheRationaliser I couldn't care less if your not convinced. I'm concerned with sound reasoning.
@sp00x @mrsk3ptic @TheRationaliser yes I would agree.
@TheRationaliser just because its jot the same doesn't mean it's not important.
@HowardHopkinson @sp00x @TheRationaliser The cliches are almost unbearable
@sp00x @TheRationaliser that's a very good question. However it's the same answer to the torture animal question .
Sorry @blazed_benson we have exhausted these type of questions pls refer to previous tweets. @sp00x @REnlightenment @TheRationaliser
@CaptainDG64 @TheRationaliser I see your point.but More reasons to believe other humans feel pain animals & it's inductive not projection
@TheRationaliser @CaptainDG64 @paktographer I already answered this to.
@TheRationaliser @CaptainDG64 @paktographer I've answered this already .
@TheRationaliser @CaptainDG64 @paktographer 2 our perception would be the Robert is suffering but in a real sense no. Like a human no.
@TheRationaliser @CaptainDG64 @paktographer suppose we had a reboot who behaved in every way as does an animal who suffers. 1
@TheRationaliser @CaptainDG64 @paktographer yes but I have reason to believe they don't in the same way as humans that humans experience
@TheRationaliser @paktographer @richwisegenius again begging the question. #sigh
@TheRationaliser @richwisegenius @CaptainDG64 @paktographer now now lets stick to the parameters of our discussion.
@TheRationaliser @CaptainDG64 @paktographer it's your own position would suggest that for the given reasons.
@CaptainDG64 @TheRationaliser @paktographer not a problem for theology as it assumes people suffer in the real sense.
@CaptainDG64 @TheRationaliser @paktographer could be a problem. or one could extrapolate from I (human) therefore you (human) . That said ..
@TheRationaliser @paktographer some philosophers have argued that animals will also be compensated in the afterlife.
@paktographer @TheRationaliser @CEMB_forum sure . Much like you dance around #Nietzsche whom you like to woot.
@cliberalism @TheRationaliser @Razmatronix @paktographer you know as much about #atheism as a can of bakebeans knows of its own ingredients
@TheRationaliser @paktographer you are repeating your selves. sorry guys but in the words of @CEMB_forum you are chasing your tails.
@TheRationaliser @Razmatronix @paktographer that said I don't think it's a defeater for a Good God given metaethics .
@TheRationaliser @Razmatronix @paktographer I agree that if animals suffer in the same way then yes it possess an important question.
@TheRationaliser @Razmatronix @paktographer no I'm saying that a premise in your argument isn't necessarily true. At most agnostic on A.S
@TheRationaliser @Razmatronix @paktographer you have to first demonstrate that they do in fact "suffer" like humans do. #Anthropomorphism
@TheRationaliser @Razmatronix @paktographer that's begging the question. suffering in what way? As i already explained
@CaptainDG64 @TheRationaliser if you can't prove then how can "animal suffering" be defeater argument against God? It can't
@paktographer @TheRationaliser @CaptainDG64 did you bother watching the video? No. I answer these questions on there.
@CaptainDG64 @TheRationaliser @paktographer @skydivephil Now how do you prove that animals suffer in the same way without projecting?
@paktographer @CaptainDG64 no one loves @TheRationaliser therefore God doesn't exist. You will be taken seriously once you do some reading
@TheRationaliser @paktographer @CaptainDG64 or otters can't get dates. Therefore God doesn't exist! You guys need to do some more reading.
@TheRationaliser @paktographer @CaptainDG64 here's a better one. I have an in growing toe nail therefore God doesn't exist.
@paktographer @TheRationaliser @CaptainDG64 @CEMB_forum i didnt make that claim. conflated moral ontology with epistemology. Novice mistaken
@CEMB_forum @TheRationaliser @CaptainDG64 great argument: otters suffer therefore Muslim /Christian/jewish God doesn't exist. #sigh
@TheRationaliser @CaptainDG64 @CEMB_forum @paktographer yes I'm asking you how does an atheist establish evil? Fyi Look up Hume & mackie.
@TheRationaliser @CaptainDG64 @CEMB_forum @paktographer ok let me try again. Why is it evil to let someone suffer?
@TheRationaliser @CaptainDG64 @CEMB_forum @paktographer you answer where the property Good and evil exists in a universe without God?
@TheRationaliser @CaptainDG64 @CEMB_forum @paktographer animals are not moral agents! You can not accuse an otter of being a rapist.
@adamdeen @HATzortzis @TheRationaliser @Matt_Dillahunty http://m.csmonitor.com/Science/2013/1106/Did-man-form-from-earth-New-research-suggests-early-life-began-in-wet-clay?cmpid=twitterfeed&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter … 'We created man from an extract of clay. (Qur'an, 23:12)'
@TheRationaliser only 3 tweets he has "debate me". "Thats an Ad hominem" and "Adam & hamza the same" #troll @HATzortzis @MartijnTonies
@TheRationaliser tweets Reminds me of the music industry, half the songs produced are cover songs. @MartijnTonies @HATzortzis @stephenlaw60
@Lee_Symes @TheRationaliser I'm left confused. I would have thought following @RichardDawkins you'd be used to the tone.
@TheRationaliser @Lee_Symes not an argument obviously . But a mere observation. Sigh...
@TheRationaliser @Lee_Symes likewise.
@TheRationaliser @Lee_Symes according to your definition that's ad hominem tut tut . #kettleblack
@TheRationaliser @RichardDawkins your point can be refuted by one word 'sunlight' #obtuse
@AqibKhan_ @therationaliser lol
@TheRationaliser @reid_lynton only when it comes to your tweets. I have to respond in kind you see.
@TheRationaliser = argumentum ad nauseam @reid_lynton
@AqibKhan_ @therationaliser @sp00x this is the problem when people try and engage with philosophical issues without any grounding.
@TheRationaliser @sp00x @adamdeen this is what the Oxford dictionary says. pic.twitter.com/msjKF8OZCT
@AqibKhan_ @therationaliser @sp00x very respected by philosophy departments.
@TheRationaliser @aqibkhan_ @sp00x to be accurate we should refer to philosophical reference since atheism is a philosophical term.
Good point It doesn't need to be sadly has become that amongst pop atheist. No thanks to @RichardDawkins @sp00x @TheRationaliser @AqibKhan_
@TheRationaliser @krisdotorg what you call 'avoiding' is simply my lack of patience with your child like questions. sorry I'm only human.
can the @TheRationaliser tweet anything other than repetition?
@TheRationaliser @aqibkhan_ really? Comparing beliefs with emotions . "Congratulations" you just topped your last inane tweet.
@TheRationaliser please keep up with the discussion. If you can't then don't try and look witty.
@TheRationaliser obviously not. There's a reason why I ignore your questions. They are patently inane.
@TheRationaliser my view is that both theists and atheists have to support their reasons for believing. It's not one sided.
@layla_murad @therationaliser @__hari__ oh another "my dad didn't let me go parting so I left islam" .
@RichSandersen @TheRationaliser only for the simple minded.
@TheRationaliser wrong link it's this one http://thedeeninstitute.com/conferences/can-muslims-escape-misogyny …
@TheRationaliser @alomshaha @numbdave the irony...
@TheRationaliser @alomshaha @numbdave lol please. #theemotioniser
@TheRationaliser @alomshaha @numbdave party games.
@alomshaha @TheRationaliser @numbdave who says ? Now who's playing the victim?
@TheRationaliser @alomshaha @numbdave errr???
@TheRationaliser @alomshaha @numbdave political action so we do t r d up like France
@TheRationaliser @RazaSaab @alomshaha well a bit like when you guys rally together against us religious folk.
@TheRationaliser @RazaSaab @alomshaha sing songs. What do you think?!
“@ThisIsTheEnd7: @TheRationaliser @adamdeen @RazaSaab @alomshaha Just don't mention Israel...” Lol
@RazaSaab @TheRationaliser @alomshaha not quite. Try again. #badanalogy
@TheRationaliser no not really. Given your comprehension skills it's best you avoid debates altogether.
@TheRationaliser you're the one asking for a debate not me. Who's the one seeking fame?
@TheRationaliser @Mark2w @HATzortzis indeed fame not more important than Dawah. why I wouldn't give an 'opponent' fame for the sake of it.
@TheRationaliser @Mark2w @HATzortzis not sure how that follows from my tweet.
@TheRationaliser @Mark2w @HATzortzis or some people Think they have the importance to debate people.
@TheRationaliser @Mark2w @HATzortzis or some people have importance to debate people.
@TheRationaliser maybe if I was interested in such a debate.
@TheRationaliser @skydivephil FYI I have the details of the lecturer that taught him. He would be a better option if I was interested.
@TheRationaliser @skydivephil If i was going to debate someone who had studied cosmology I would go for a youtuber. Thanks.
@TheRationaliser @skydivephil Its probably more befitting if he debates this chap. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69ucKFyUDGk …
@TheRationaliser he debated Sami zaatari
@TheRationaliser @ThisIsTheEnd7 @__Hari__ I get bored very quickly with inane comments. my weakness.
@TheRationaliser @skydivephil no. Why?
@ThisIsTheEnd7 @__Hari__ @TheRationaliser another arm chair campaigner against domestic violence .
@ThisIsTheEnd7 @__Hari__ @TheRationaliser yawn
@__Hari__ @TheRationaliser Lord of the rings says no such thing.
@CEMB_forum @TheRationaliser lol ' attempts' at personal digs great sign of intellectual defeat. Nice
@aceltinfinland @CEMB_forum @TheRationaliser question- do you know of Camus virtuous murderer?
@aceltinfinland @CEMB_forum @TheRationaliser I neither take advice from a delusional characters . Who base their entire life on Clichés.
@aceltinfinland @CEMB_forum @TheRationaliser the clichés are almost unbearable .
@CEMB_forum @aceltinfinland @TheRationaliser without God and religion that's all you have. Youre flogging a dead horse with your atheism.
@aceltinfinland @TheRationaliser @CEMB_forum lol . Typical militant atheism . Wants its cake and eat it. No God /no religion = nihilism .
@aceltinfinland @CEMB_forum @TheRationaliser yawn. You still don't get the discussion . I would suggest you go and think some more.
@CEMB_forum @TheRationaliser oh really teaching me Islam now . Typical tyrannical mindset of a hater.
@TheRationaliser it's qualitative and quantitative. Your moral calculator is flawed.
@aceltinfinland @TheRationaliser @CEMB_forum oh dear you still don't get . Never mind.
@CEMB_forum @TheRationaliser again a caricature . Need to read beyond Dawkins .
@CEMB_forum @TheRationaliser the deity that will forgive you because of your deep ignorance. #God
@aceltinfinland @TheRationaliser @CEMB_forum no not really its a philosophical concept. No God No religion no narrative beyond this world
@CEMB_forum @TheRationaliser you mean the one who says that "his mercy surpasses his wrath".
@CEMB_forum @TheRationaliser because evil manifests from their shirk . That's the point.
@CEMB_forum @TheRationaliser where does it say "innocent" people will be punished in hell? Making things up now.
@CEMB_forum @TheRationaliser without hell it does not matter if you live as a saint or Stalin . Life ends at the grave.
@aceltinfinland @TheRationaliser @CEMB_forum without religion it life is inconsequential.
@CEMB_forum @TheRationaliser what would be an adequate punishment for a man responsible for the death of 6 million Jews?
@TheRationaliser have you thought perhaps your moral calculations may be wrong?
@TheRationaliser thats contradiction . Hell by definition is a place where justice prevails.
@TheRationaliser oh the irony!
@TheRationaliser so do you see how your question doesn't make sense and how the #bbc program was baseless?
@TheRationaliser according to the law her Islamic marriage doesn't have legal status. Therefore the sharia courts "ruling" has no bearing.
@TheRationaliser its like this. I rule on your inconsistent arguments. I give you life imprisonment . Is this a parallel system? No!
@TheRationaliser "ruling" how can they rule when they have no legislative power?! Going round in circles.
@TheRationaliser that's all that they are.
@CEMB_forum @therationaliser no just make a point when there is a point to be made.
@CEMB_forum @moansar @therationaliser be our guest . But make sure you actually have a point!
@MoAnsar @therationaliser indeed.
@TheRationaliser tell me something . We're you this interested in domestic abuse before you started attacking #islam?
@TheRationaliser you're trying to create spin and its obvious. #cringe
@TheRationaliser it had nothing to do with discussing the impact of domestic violence. For the rationizer you're not very rational .
@TheRationaliser the tweet you objected to was illustrating that sharia courts have no legislative!
@TheRationaliser lol nice try. My tweets were referring to the claim that sharia courts are a parallel system.
@TheRationaliser Sorry whats your point exactly? You seem to be all over the place.
@TheRationaliser err no how about going to the police?! #Clueless indeed you are.