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- I am reflecting on the fact that earlier Jinx implied all definitions are tautological.
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- Example.
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- I have an object which is an A.
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- How do I identify an object of type A?
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- Type A objects are defined as such: A type A object has property B.
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- Jinx claims that is tautological for the following reason:
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- [Objects with the property of B] have property B.
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- Jinx
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- "[Systems that do not reform through peaceful communication] don't reform through peaceful communication"
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- I claimed some systems are of type Unjust.
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- How do I identify a system of type Unjust?
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- Systems Unjust are defined as such: A system is of type Unjust if it has property "doesn't reform through peaceful communication".
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- He then replaced Unjust with its definition:
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- A system "doesn't reform through peaceful communication" doesn't reform through peaceful communication.
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- And he claimed this was a tautology.
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- It's even more foolish than I previously grasped.
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- In mathematics, definitions generally include iff, i.e. if and only if. If and only if is a bidirectional implication.
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- A implies B and B implies A.
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- We can reveal the foolishness even further.
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- Let us remove the word 'unjust' entirely, as that is the name of the property.
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- 1. Some systems do not allow reform through peaceful communication.
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- 2. A system which does not allow reform through peaceful communication, for sufficient period, deserves coercion towards those reforms up to an including violent compulsion.
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- 3. America is such a system.
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- Actually, let me try that again:
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- 3. America has not allowed reform through peaceful communication for a sufficient period of time.
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- So, (2) is of form A implies B.
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- (3) is A is true.
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- Therefore, B is true.
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- Where does unjust fit into this scheme, then?
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- It is an object reference for A.
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- That is, it's a 'definition'.
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- Jinx is a fool, and an incredibly bad-faithed actor.
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- There are several other ways to understand all of this, of course.
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- For example, one could posit 'unjust' as an lvalue in C++ and 'system which doesn't reform through peaceful communication for sufficient period of time' as an rvalue.
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- Another method: System is an abstract base class, and Unjust System a concrete class with a value of false for a peaceful_reformation field.
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- Then, references to this object are of an entirely different type than the value of that field.
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- This immediately cuts any cycles Jinx false perceived between antecedent and consequent.
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- falsely*
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