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- emilio - Today at 12:31 PM
- @Collin
- some of the hypocrisy regarding xxx getting shot is retarded
- emilio - Today at 1:02 PM
- i know its not everyone but
- ive seen a lot of people who are expressing happiness at his death due to what he did to his gf
- but then also were extremely loud about when people were got wrongfully shot by police, even though some of them did do some fucked up shit before
- and also are hugely against prison system mistreatment such as conditions and death sentence
- its reasonable to be one way or the other
- Blaine - Today at 1:02 PM
- @Chris you don’t want to get in on this shit show
- emilio - Today at 1:02 PM
- that i dont care about
- both being some retarded mix
- Blaine - Today at 1:03 PM
- Tbh I feel like you can be happy a shitty person died and angry the police are shitty at the same time
- Those aren’t necessarily mutually exclusive reactions
- emilio - Today at 1:05 PM
- but isnt the basis behind behind thinking the police are being shitty is
- "they wrongfully killed this person", but the emphasis is on wrongfully which means they neither should have nor had the right to
- the right to is p clear, but the first thing of they shouldnt have means the person didnt deserve to die like that
- so i guess theyre not shitty enough to have deserved it
- Blaine - Today at 1:06 PM
- If I were to make a comparison, say you went to your favorite restaurant and ordered your favorite dessert that you were really craving. The kitchen ends up fucking it up and giving you a different dessert that you end up eating and really liking. You can be happy you got to try something new you liked but still be mad you didn’t get what you originally wanted
- emilio - Today at 1:06 PM
- and being happy x died like that is literally
- "im glad someone went out and did an extrajudicial execution on someone i didnt like"
- Blaine - Today at 1:06 PM
- It’s a good unexpected outcome, but they still fucked Up by not doing their job
- I think you’re projecting the wrong sentiment
- emilio - Today at 1:08 PM
- i think theres a stark difference between
- not wanting someone to exist and being glad they were killed
- Blaine - Today at 1:08 PM
- It’s not necessarily “I’m glad this person died outside the law” and more “I’m glad a shitty person died”
- Maybe, some people can be extremely judgmental
- emilio - Today at 1:09 PM
- and its perfectly reasonable to think the first almost regardless of you views on other things
- but the second doesnt work with other views that are relatively common
- Blaine - Today at 1:09 PM
- And can’t necessarily make that distinction
- I don’t think anyone is encouraging murder tbh,I think they’re just happy it happened to someone they believed deserved it
- That doesn’t necessarily mean they encourage further murders
- emilio - Today at 1:11 PM
- but to express happiness at his death is an implicit support of how he died
- Blaine - Today at 1:11 PM
- I don’t really see the issue in thinking “I’m glad he died” but also thinking at the same time “but I hope people stop killing each other”
- Like if I went back to my dessert analogy, I could easily think “I’m glad I got this new tasty dessert, but I hope they don’t fuck Up my order next time”
- Expressing pleasure at the New dessert doesn’t imply that I encourage them to continue fucking up
- It just means I was happy with the outcome that one time
- emilio - Today at 1:12 PM
- im not saying that theyre supporting future shootings
- im saying
- theyre supporting the current shooting
- so for that analogy, youre in a way glad that the mistake occurred
- Blaine - Today at 1:13 PM
- I think you’re too heavily associating cause and effect
- They don’t necessarily have to be the same
- Again you can be mad at the kitchen for fucking Up but still glad you ended up with something good
- emilio - Today at 1:15 PM
- but by saying its good, youre directly saying the kitchen produced this good food
- like i think it would be fine to think
- i wish x were dead, but this shouldnt have happened, this was fucked up
- like
- saying
- not now
- ie, im not glad hes dead like this
- Blaine - Today at 1:16 PM
- Or if I were to make a video game analogy, say we’re playing ranked 5s and we’re really trying to win, and we kill their jungler and their top and we make the call to baron. The enemy team has the remaining 3 not with no tp while we’re all at baron. There is a massive wave top and they have 50 sec respawn timers. If we take baron and push top, we are guaranteed an inhibitor with no deaths.
- Instead Harrison goes bot, and we’re all mad. However, he gets a triple kill randomly with mongo powers. We can be mad he did it and tell him not to do that next time, but can still say “nice play, shitty decision making”
- emilio - Today at 1:17 PM
- the bad part comes in when people say, im glad hes dead, regardless of the way he died this time
- Blaine - Today at 1:17 PM
- Idk tbh
- Personally I don’t see an issue separating cause and effect
- And being upset at the cause but happy at the outcome
- But that’s just my opinion I suppose
- emilio - Today at 1:18 PM
- lets compare it to
- when a mass shooting happens
- and the media blasts the shooters info and life story
- people have had an issue with it it supposedly glorifies the shooting and other people will see and think
- "hey i should do that"
- im assuming the media does think the shooting was bad
- but by glorifying the shooting
- theyre supporting new shooters
- so for x, regarding people who support the fact that he died
- it doesnt even matter if they say they wish it didnt happen like this
- by saying theyre glad he died, it implies this manner of death was ok, and theres gonna people who pick up on that and directly support it themselves
- so even if they didnt mean to, their approval of his death like this supports drivebys
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