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The End of Liberal Universalism

JaysonSunshine
Jun 21st, 2018
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  1. 1:34:41 PM+LowInformationVoterhttps://theweek.com/speedreads/780527/melania-trump-flew-texas-visit-detained-immigrant-children-app...
  2. 1:34:54 PM+LowInformationVoterMelania is a stupid person.
  3. 1:35:02 PM+LowInformationVoterShe has such an opportunity to be a noble person.
  4. 1:35:21 PM+LowInformationVoterYou divorce Trump and you become a vociferous critic of him. You would him politically. You reduce the harm he inflicts on others.
  5. 1:35:26 PM+LowInformationVoterInstead, she remains a collaborator.
  6. 1:35:28 PM+LowInformationVoterPussy.
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  8. 1:36:39 PMⓘ Mabus set mode +v Banquo
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  14. 1:41:56 PM+LowInformationVoter"You wound him politically"
  15. 1:44:11 PM+LowInformationVoterhttps://theweek.com/speedreads/780183/jarring-footage-shows-young-girls-being-transferred-from-nyc-f...
  16. 1:44:21 PM+LowInformationVoterI think we're gonna find out this story is much worse than we currently know.
  17. 1:44:33 PM+LowInformationVoterHumans, when there isn't accountability, very often act extremely selfishly and terribly.
  18. 1:47:22 PM+LowInformationVoterI'll go on record (you can save the log and paste it back to me): We'll end up finding out at minimum several hundred of these children end up in child trafficking rings.
  19. 1:52:23 PM@xsnlxHedrin, you mean like when Nugent told Obama to "suck on my machine gun"
  20. 1:52:50 PM@xsnlxsure, but violent, yes?
  21. 1:53:15 PM← ColonelSarahHuckabeeSanders has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
  22. 1:53:27 PM+LowInformationVoterIt's ethical to kill your leaders, sometimes.
  23. 1:53:30 PM+LowInformationVoterSee, Hitler.
  24. 1:53:42 PM+LowInformationVoterWhich times is it ethical to kill your leaders?
  25. 1:53:52 PM+LowInformationVoterSee, philosophy and the systematic exploration of knowledge.
  26. 1:54:21 PM+LowInformationVoterIs it ethical to currently kill Donald Trump?
  27. 1:54:23 PM@xsnlxor like when Nugent call HRC a "toxic cunt"
  28. 1:54:27 PM+LowInformationVoterWas it ever ethical to kill Obam?
  29. 1:54:42 PM+LowInformationVoterSee "philosophy and the systematic exploration of knowledge".
  30. 1:55:11 PM@xsnlxHedrin, sure, but all of the right-wing pearl-clutching over Samantha is just posturing
  31. 1:55:23 PM+LowInformationVoterxsnlx: Why do you refuse to accept some parts of reality?
  32. 1:55:41 PM+LowInformationVoterhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njRkA9PoeTs
  33. 1:55:57 PM+LowInformationVoterxsnlx: You are pointing out contradictions. Is this relevant?
  34. 1:56:10 PM+LowInformationVoterYes, if the speaker has an evidence-based worldview in which coherency is a minimum standard.
  35. 1:56:20 PM+LowInformationVoterDoes Hedrin, your chat partner, have such a worldview? No, they do not.
  36. 1:56:42 PM@xsnlx“Donald Trump is as close to Ted Nugent as you’re going to get in politics.” - Ted Nugent
  37. 1:56:43 PM+LowInformationVoterWhat is the replacing axiom in Hedrin's worldview? If it's my time, it's okay. If it's not my team, it's not okay.
  38. 1:56:50 PM@xsnlxthere, I agree with Ted Nugent
  39. 1:56:51 PM+LowInformationVoterteam*
  40. 1:57:10 PM+LowInformationVoterxsnlx: Why do you systematically reward ignorance while punishing education?
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  43. 1:58:23 PM+LowInformationVoterI've been watching The Handmaid's Tale.
  44. 1:58:43 PM+LowInformationVoterThere are interesting parallels between aspects of that show and the child trafficking our federal government is currently peforming.
  45. 1:59:37 PM← Godric has quit (Quit: these violent delights have violent ends)
  46. 2:00:21 PM+LowInformationVoterI do not like many humans.
  47. 2:00:30 PM+LowInformationVoterMany humans are intolerably unethical beings.
  48. 2:00:42 PM← Hedrin has quit (Client closed connection)
  49. 2:00:50 PM+LowInformationVoterI no longer ascribe to grand narratives about 'saving' all human beings.
  50. 2:01:15 PMⓘ Debates set mode +l 69
  51. 2:01:38 PM+LowInformationVoterI think a better goal is minimizing the harm of many of the unethical humans, giving opportunities to all humans to be good and prosperous, while holding all humans accountable -- strictly -- for their actions while fostering a small group of humans to actually guide the human civilization.
  52. 2:02:00 PM+LowInformationVoterBecause we sure as hell can't count on the majority, when Trump's sitting with a 42% approval rating and 1/3 of Americans are okay with kidnapping of children.
  53. 2:02:16 PM+LowInformationVoterRecall, there are no gods. Where, then, do rights come from? Human physiology?
  54. 2:02:31 PM+LowInformationVoterDo humans have a right to not be raped? Yes. Why? It hurts them tremendously in many cases.
  55. 2:03:02 PM+LowInformationVoterWhat if you rape a human child, but you do not perform any penetrative acts that cause physical damage? Is that still wrong? Yes, there is substantial mental suffering.
  56. 2:03:24 PM+LowInformationVoterWhat does science tell us about the relative harm a child experiences from being raped v. being separated from their parents and family?
  57. 2:03:37 PM+LowInformationVoterScience shows that it being separated is much, much, much more harmful than that child being raped.
  58. 2:03:49 PM+LowInformationVoterSo, 1/3 of the country is okay with super-child rape, as long it's the Other.
  59. 2:04:03 PM+LowInformationVoterThese people cannot participate in the leadership of our societies or our civilization.
  60. 2:04:33 PM+LowInformationVoterWe must generate and maintain a ruling, managerial class that is highly intelligent and highly moral to shepherd our people against the blind rage of significant parts of our species.
  61. 2:04:47 PM+LowInformationVoterSuch people are a cancer. What is the current solution presented to us in our universal democracy?
  62. 2:05:12 PM+LowInformationVoterYou just let them be. That's the solution. And that's fine, if 1% of your society is Nazi. You can just let them be with their fascism, their hate, their terrorism, and their speech.
  63. 2:05:15 PM+LowInformationVoterAnd what if they're 33%?
  64. 2:05:26 PM+LowInformationVoterOur current universal democracy continues to say, "Let them be."
  65. 2:05:45 PM+LowInformationVoterThis is not a realistic, adult solution. It is playing games with the lives of millions or billions of people -- given nuclear weapons.
  66. 2:06:11 PM+LowInformationVoterWe generated these universal systems as a response to the discriminatory systems of the past that stripped humanity from people based off various human characteristics, like religion or skin color.
  67. 2:06:15 PM+LowInformationVoterWe can no longer play this game.
  68. 2:06:26 PM+LowInformationVoterWe have to accept that we are not all created equally -- the science does not support that claim.
  69. 2:06:48 PM+LowInformationVoterWe have to figure out a way to very carefully, very intelligently, and very morally give unequal powers to different humans while respecting the rights and dignities of all people.
  70. 2:07:04 PM+LowInformationVoterBut, if you think climate change is fake news, you can't govern society -- you have to be banned from government.
  71. 2:07:15 PM+LowInformationVoterIf you think Trump is doing a good job, then you can't govern society -- you have to be banned from government.
  72. 2:07:30 PM+LowInformationVoterThis is the only way our civilization has a chance of being healthy and stable for the long term.
  73. 2:08:19 PM+LowInformationVoterThe alternative given to us by universal democracy appears to be this: 1) burgeoning fascism, 2) fascist take over, 3) pogroms, 4) international warfare, 5) victory of liberalism, 6) apathy, 7) burgeoning fascism...
  74. 2:08:52 PM+LowInformationVoterI cannot participate in systems that condemn humankind to an eternal cycle of pogroms and international warfare with liberalism sprinkled in between.
  75. 2:09:40 PM+LowInformationVoterWhat are the fundamental tenet of the Enlightenment movement? The universe is intelligible by human reason. Additionally, humanism is often tightly coupled with the epistemology and metaphysics of Enlightenment.
  76. 2:10:39 PM+LowInformationVoterWhat we find, however -- perhaps unfortunately -- when we strictly and continuous apply the epistemology of the Enlightenment is that universalism isn't the best system, and while beautifully optimistic, in reality, condemns our species to endless cycles of violence in a world with nuclear weapons.
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