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  2. [00:17] <harrumph> anybody available to help debug a "Could not find valid value for cid" error?
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  11. [00:51] <civi-activity> eileen: CRM-11178 Currently getting ENotices on civicrm_api('contact','getsingle' array('api.uf_match.get' = 1, 'version' = 3) -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11178
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  13. [00:53] <civi-activity> r43245 by eileen: CRM-11178 - Enotice on getsingle with nested api calls -- https://fisheye2.atlassian.com/changelog/CiviCRM?cs=43245
  14. [00:53] <civi-activity> eileen: CRM-11178 fix chained API for when calling function is getsingle -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11178
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  17. [01:05] <civi-activity> r43246 by totten: CRM-11045, CRM-11020, CRM-10864: Merge into trunk * Merge into trunk: svn merge -r 42937:43239 http://svn.civicrm.org/civicrm/branches/trunk.extsplit * Resolve conflict in CRM_Utils_File * Patch mi... -- https://fisheye2.atlassian.com/changelog/CiviCRM?cs=43246
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  19. [01:08] <civi-activity> r43247 by totten: CRM-11054 - "Manage Extensions" - Restore styling for missing extensions -- https://fisheye2.atlassian.com/changelog/CiviCRM?cs=43247
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  43. [03:16] <civi-activity> joemurray: CRM-11120 An automated cleanup needs to delete the extra linkages in the membership_payment table prior to calling task_4_2_alpha1_convertContributions (which is where the INSERT to line_item failures occur)... -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11120
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  47. [04:03] <civi-activity> eileen: CRM-11179 When I try to enable logging on trunk on a database that has previously had logging enabled (ie. turned off during upgrade) I get a fatal error because it tries to add the new column ALTER TABLE `w... -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11179
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  50. [04:13] <eileen> yashodha - are you able to reload demo - http://drupal.demo.civicrm.org/ - I just crashed it by trying to turn off multilingual
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  56. [04:40] <jmeehan> anyone know why postProcess() doesn't get called when you submit the form to create an event?
  57. [04:40] <civi-activity> eileen: CRM-11180 Contact Change log tab shows as blank if for all contacts EXCEPT for the first 50 to be changed after turning on Change logging. e.g. http://sandbox.drupal.civicrm.org/civicrm/contact/view?reset=1c... -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11180
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  60. [04:51] <civi-activity> deepak: CRM-11060 Ship a scheduled job for "send scheduled sms" -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11060
  61. [04:51] <civi-activity> deepak: CRM-11062 Changing label for mobile phone-type breaks mass sms -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11062
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  65. [05:03] <civi-activity> eileen: CRM-11180 NB - we are running it without the INNER JOIN and it eventually gets there - although there is no UI clue that it's still working away. -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11180
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  68. [05:20] <civi-activity> peted: CRM-11180 although there is no UI clue that it's still working away Yes would be great if all pages that can take a long time to load could get a swirling icon - am sure it runs on some pages - eg dashboard ... -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11180
  69. [05:21] <civi-activity> joemurray: CRM-11120 In the 2.3 table, the sort order should be Contribution ID and Membership ID. Also, please add contribution amount between Contributor Contact ID and Membership ID, and Membership Type Cost after M... -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11120
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  71. [05:26] <civi-activity> r43248 by deepak: - CRM-11060 -- https://fisheye2.atlassian.com/changelog/CiviCRM?cs=43248
  72. [05:27] <civi-activity> deepak: CRM-11060 Ship a scheduled job for "send scheduled sms" -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11060
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  75. [05:46] <civi-activity> yashodha: CRM-11138 Eileen : For price sets, we don't use $membership_name since there could be multiple membership types (and the related info - start date, end date for each one of them). And hence we show all the m... -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11138
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  80. [06:07] <civi-activity> r43249 by deepak: - fix for syntax error introduced in r43233 towards CRM-11170 -- https://fisheye2.atlassian.com/changelog/CiviCRM?cs=43249
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  85. [06:41] <civi-activity> eileen: CRM-11138 So, why do we still have {$membership_name} in the online receipts since they should always be price sets now. I assumed my customer was right in thinking that where there is only 1 membership the ... -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11138
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  90. [07:21] <civi-activity> r43250 by deepak: - CRM-11158 -- https://fisheye2.atlassian.com/changelog/CiviCRM?cs=43250
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  92. [07:22] <civi-activity> deepak: CRM-11158 Display comments in log summary report -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11158
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  94. [07:31] <civi-activity> deepak: CRM-11158 Have got this mostly working. One issue: When a note is deleted, all comments related to it are also deleted, but almost at the same time (at mysql level). Due to this mysql group-by is not able to... -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11158
  95. [07:49] <civi-activity> r43251 by pradeep.nayak: #CRM-8417 sample data -- https://fisheye2.atlassian.com/changelog/CiviCRM?cs=43251
  96. [07:50] <civi-activity> r43252 by pradeep.nayak: #CRM-11109 and CRM-11106 -- https://fisheye2.atlassian.com/changelog/CiviCRM?cs=43252
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  101. [08:24] <civi-activity> r43253 by pradeep.nayak: #CRM-11109 and CRM-11106 -- https://fisheye2.atlassian.com/changelog/CiviCRM?cs=43253
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  108. [09:05] <civi-activity> r43254 by pradeep.nayak: #CRM-11109 and CRM-11106 setting default financial type -- https://fisheye2.atlassian.com/changelog/CiviCRM?cs=43254
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  118. [10:36] <civi-activity> r43255 by pradeep.nayak: #CRM-11110 delete financial type financial account fix -- https://fisheye2.atlassian.com/changelog/CiviCRM?cs=43255
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  122. [10:50] <civi-activity> r43256 by pradeep.nayak: #CRM-11110 financial type financial account delete fix -- https://fisheye2.atlassian.com/changelog/CiviCRM?cs=43256
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  126. [10:57] <civi-activity> joemurray: CRM-11120 As this is for a drush upgrade, ignore the 2.3 UI suggestions andjust delete all membership_payment reords for the set except the one with the largest id in the set. -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11120
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  131. [11:37] <civi-activity> r43257 by saurabh: CRM-11110 -- https://fisheye2.atlassian.com/changelog/CiviCRM?cs=43257
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  135. [12:00] <ThomWilhelm> I am using the Civi API in PHP (for the first time) to loop through lot of contacts (over 15,000), however I am finding that once I load more than ~10,000 contacts it hits PHP's memory limit, is there any way around this (other than increasing the memory limit).
  136. [12:06] <civi-activity> r43258 by pradeep.nayak: #svn merge -r 43180:43257 http://svn.civicrm.org/civicrm/trunk -- https://fisheye2.atlassian.com/changelog/CiviCRM?cs=43258
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  144. [12:30] <Rejo> http://pastebin.com/9uiw8Cit
  145. [12:30] <Rejo> I am receiving an error when I try to add an email to a group.
  146. [12:30] <Rejo> Array
  147. [12:30] <Rejo> (
  148. [12:30] <Rejo> [is_error] => 1
  149. [12:30] <Rejo> [error_message] => DB Error: constraint violation
  150. [12:30] <Rejo> )
  151. [12:31] <Rejo> Probably I am overlooking something stupid.
  152. [12:31] <_xavier> Rejo: add a debug=>1 in the call, or do it from the api explorer
  153. [12:31] <_xavier> will be more verbose
  154. [12:32] <Rejo> will do
  155. [12:32] <Rejo> one moment
  156. [12:34] <civi-activity> catorghans: CRM-11181 I created a drupal view that shows Activities of the currently logged in user in a drupal Calendar. It is based on the default Events View Calendar. -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11181
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  158. [12:39] <civi-activity> jchester: CRM-11138 $membership_name has been the accepted variable to use to customise receipts for different membership types. http://forum.civicrm.org/index.php/topic,19384.msg80811.html#msg80811 http://forum.civic... -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11138
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  162. [12:48] <civi-activity> catorghans: CRM-11181 This default view only displays Meetings and Phone Calls, because I think only they make sense to display in a Calendar. Everyone can override it in their drupal instance if they want it differently. -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11181
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  167. [13:03] <civi-activity> pradeep.nayak: CRM-11109 Financial Type when configuring premiums for use -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11109
  168. [13:03] Nick change: szantog_away -> szantogabor
  169. [13:05] <civi-activity> pradeep.nayak: CRM-11109 Did the changes and committed at revision 43253. -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11109
  170. [13:10] <civi-activity> saurabh.pandit: CRM-11110 Maintain Premiums Accounting Type integrity -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11110
  171. [13:10] <civi-activity> saurabh.pandit: CRM-11110 ready for QA -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11110
  172. [13:10] <civi-activity> saurabh.pandit: CRM-11110 Maintain Premiums Accounting Type integrity -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11110
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  177. [13:21] <JoeMurray> kurund, deepaks: jira seems down
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  179. [13:23] <_xavier> civicrm.org down too
  180. [13:23] <_xavier> JoeMurray: what was the module/extension you presented us in apeldoorn to send emails?
  181. [13:23] <JoeMurray> forum down too
  182. [13:24] <JoeMurray> _xavier: https://github.com/JMAConsulting/biz.jmaconsulting.mte
  183. [13:25] <JoeMurray> colemanw: you up yet? civicrm sites are down
  184. [13:25] <_xavier> thx
  185. [13:25] <JoeMurray> michaelmcandrew: do you have permissions to reboot civicrm sites?
  186. [13:25] <JoeMurray> ^
  187. [13:26] <bgm> i'm taking a look
  188. [13:26] <_xavier> bgm did do it this we
  189. [13:26] <JoeMurray> bgm: thx
  190. [13:26] <_xavier> thx
  191. [13:26] <JoeMurray> svn down too
  192. [13:26] <bgm> seems OK now
  193. [13:26] <bgm> only restarted Apache
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  195. [13:28] <_xavier> JoeMurray: why did you implement a separate callback rather than rely on the rest and add a new api on mandrill?
  196. [13:30] <JoeMurray> not sure I understand all of you question. the mandrill events are different than civimail's to some extent. We had to insert custom headers in all outbound transactional emails in order to track callbacks from mandrill
  197. [13:30] <JoeMurray> so i think we put in a new hook for outgoing messages
  198. [13:30] <_xavier> That part: For example: http://yourorg.org/civicrm/mte/callback?name=username&pass=password&key=civicrm-site-key
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  200. [13:31] <_xavier> instead of using the rest api (sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/rest.php?...
  201. [13:32] <_xavier> and create a new email.callbackmte action
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  203. [13:33] <_xavier> (so it would have used the same site_api+api auth instead of having a login+pwd)
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  205. [13:34] <JoeMurray> _xavier: we might not have done the right thing, since I'm not aware of exactly what calling the extern/rest.php does
  206. [13:35] <JoeMurray> mandrill has its own webhooks
  207. [13:35] <JoeMurray> https://mandrillapp.com/api/docs/webhooks.html#method=add
  208. [13:35] <JoeMurray> one provides it with the url to hit
  209. [13:35] <JoeMurray> but it has its own way of implementing the callback
  210. [13:38] <JoeMurray> if I understand you correctly, we could have setup a custom email.callbackmte action somehow, and then in (sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/rest.php?extraArg=nn extraArgs somehow specified the callback to be routed to our new action?
  211. [13:39] <JoeMurray> _xavier: where's a good example of a new extern/rest.php callback implementation or two?
  212. [13:39] <_xavier> yes, simply rest.php?entity=email&action=customJoe
  213. [13:39] <JoeMurray> and how is the auth done?
  214. [13:39] <_xavier> and in your extension you put an api/v3/Email/Customjoe.php and voila
  215. [13:40] <JoeMurray> i need to be able to mandrill to put something into the url
  216. [13:40] <_xavier> &api_key=xxx&key=yyy
  217. [13:40] <JoeMurray> since I'm not in control of anything on their side except url
  218. [13:41] <JoeMurray> what's the advantage of using &api_key=xxx&key=yyy rather than login, etc
  219. [13:41] <_xavier> each param (post or get) ends up as a param in your function civicrm_api3_email_customjoe($params)
  220. [13:41] <JoeMurray> and what are the permissions associated with the api login approach
  221. [13:41] <_xavier> you can define what permissions are needed for each action
  222. [13:41] <_xavier> by default access civicrm
  223. [13:42] <JoeMurray> so i'm still not understanding advantages (don't know this area especially well, but we didn't have troubles getting get & post args)
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  226. [13:43] <JoeMurray> I get the feeling we implemented things from scratch rather than using a predefined approach, but i'm not sure what is wrong now that we have done it
  227. [13:44] <_xavier> JoeMurray: I don't see how https://github.com/JMAConsulting/biz.jmaconsulting.mte/blob/master/CRM/Mte/Page/callback.phpyou validate the login/pwd
  228. [13:44] <JoeMurray> what was the pain point that led to shifting away from login, password
  229. [13:45] <JoeMurray> I'd have to investigate, as Pradeep @ webaccess did the implementation
  230. [13:45] <_xavier> Don't think there is something wrong per se, and might be because I'm more familiar with the api that I find it easier to create custom menu ;)
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  232. [13:46] <_xavier> re: login/pwd vs key. I was done before I looked at it. I think the main benefit it that the admin user can't change the api_key but can the login/pwd
  233. [13:46] <JoeMurray> _xavier
  234. [13:46] <JoeMurray> we used the approach that totten implemented in his civix
  235. [13:46] <JoeMurray> we had done it a different way initially, then he suggested this
  236. [13:47] <_xavier> JoeMurray: nothing wrong on your approach, just wanted to know if you thought about the custom api way and bumped into an issue
  237. [13:47] <JoeMurray> no, we were trying to a model civix extension
  238. [13:48] <JoeMurray> and took advice from totten on architecture, and got him to implement a few things for us
  239. [13:48] <JoeMurray> i'm now concerned about our security, and will followup on this
  240. [13:48] <_xavier> Anyway, I'm going to try using it, see how it works in detail and report
  241. [13:49] <JoeMurray> might be good to discuss between totten and you re: extern/rest.php to make sure civix is taking advantage of everything in api
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  243. [13:49] <JoeMurray> thx
  244. [13:49] <_xavier> it does already. you can put an api/v3/Entity/Action.php file and it's automatically available
  245. [13:49] <_xavier> (to ajax/rest/php/smarty)
  246. [13:50] <_xavier> under the root of the extension
  247. [13:50] <JoeMurray> _xavier: https://github.com/JMAConsulting/biz.jmaconsulting.mte/blob/master/xml/Menu/mte.xml
  248. [13:50] <_xavier> Might be good to create the empty folders already, as pointers, but civix has a generate:api already
  249. [13:51] <_xavier> ah ok, and drupal handles the user+password automatically?
  250. [13:51] <JoeMurray> we ran a small civix function to create a page, which auto-generated that .xml file
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  252. [13:51] <JoeMurray> and that handles the user+password automatically, as you say
  253. [13:52] <_xavier> Cool. But that's drupal that does it, right?
  254. [13:52] <_xavier> ie. does it work on WP/J! too?
  255. [13:52] <JoeMurray> http://wiki.civicrm.org/confluence/display/CRMDOC42/Create+a+Module+Extension#CreateaModuleExtension-Addabasicwebpage
  256. [13:52] <JoeMurray> it's cms agnostic
  257. [13:53] <JoeMurray> JMA was seed funder of this initiative
  258. [13:54] <JoeMurray> _xavier: see http://wiki.civicrm.org/confluence/display/CRMDOC42/Create+an+Extension
  259. [13:54] <JoeMurray> and most of the pages under it, since the methods have changed a bunch as totten has filled out his civix autocoder
  260. [13:54] <_xavier> Reminds me I have a backlog of extensions in github I need to publish to civi ;)
  261. [13:55] <JoeMurray> not that it is implemented using symfony 2
  262. [13:55] <JoeMurray> note
  263. [13:55] <JoeMurray> yeah, i have one or two
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  265. [13:56] <JoeMurray> what's your github account?
  266. [13:56] <_xavier> https://github.com/TechToThePeople or /tttp
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  270. [14:00] <JoeMurray> _xavier: very cool!
  271. [14:03] <JoeMurray> xavier: is publicautocomplete production ready?
  272. [14:05] <_xavier> I did use it for an event. now that the security is stronger, I'll need to change the api name
  273. [14:06] <_xavier> Let me do it now
  274. [14:08] <JoeMurray> dlobo: jira down
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  276. [14:09] <llaen> hi folks, I have a civievent question
  277. [14:09] <llaen> is there any way to force a confirmation page if the event is free?
  278. [14:09] <JoeMurray> dlobo: bgm managed to bring up civicrm.org and forum and svn about an hour ago by rebooting apache
  279. [14:10] <llaen> the current registration flow is too fast (strange as this sounds) - the user presses "continue" on the first page and is suddenly registered and gets the thank-you page
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  281. [14:12] <JoeMurray> llaen: agreed re: default actions. Text should be 'Register' on first page or Confirm page should be required
  282. [14:12] <JoeMurray> do you have programming skills?
  283. [14:12] <llaen> yup
  284. [14:12] <bgm> JoeMurray: oh, didn't know that jira was still down.. i can restart that too
  285. [14:13] <JoeMurray> bgm: thx
  286. [14:15] <JoeMurray> llaen: ever played in CiviCRM codebase? it's got a bit of a learning curve in terms of programming conventions and use of specific libraries/patterns
  287. [14:15] <llaen> a little bit
  288. [14:15] <llaen> I can rename the button easy enough
  289. [14:15] <llaen> not sure how trivial it is to force a confirmation page
  290. [14:15] <JoeMurray> you can override a page using approach mentioned in developer book
  291. [14:16] <llaen> ok, I'll poke around
  292. [14:16] <llaen> thanks
  293. [14:16] <JoeMurray> the path is civicrm/CRM/Event/Form/Registration/
  294. [14:16] <JoeMurray> when overriding, you need to specify both php and tpl custom directories
  295. [14:16] <llaen> yeah, I already have those, thanks
  296. [14:17] <JoeMurray> and put copy of overridden file in both places even if changing only one
  297. [14:17] <llaen> anywhere I can put down this suggestion re civievent improvements?
  298. [14:18] <JoeMurray> please create an issue at http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/secure/Dashboard.jspa and mention that behaviour has been confirmed on the demo site
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  300. [14:18] <llaen> ok, will do
  301. [14:18] <JoeMurray> and if you want to fix the code, look into the controller's wizard implementation
  302. [14:19] <bgm> jira is back
  303. [14:19] <bgm> not sure why it's crashing though ..
  304. [14:19] <JoeMurray> bgm: thx, not sure either...
  305. [14:19] <chaseweb> Hi everyone - Lobo recommended I should jump on here to see if I can get help resolving the following - http://forum.civicrm.org/index.php/topic,26590.0.html.
  306. [14:20] <_xavier> JoeMurray llaen not sure it's a bug to skip the confirmation step on free events, but indeed name on the button should be different
  307. [14:20] <chaseweb> my issue is that I am exposing a search result page on the frontend of joomla and the snippet=0 in the URL is causing the page not to render in the main content area
  308. [14:20] <JoeMurray> _xavier, llaen: I agree not bug, but would be good to be a configurable option in ManageEvent
  309. [14:20] <_xavier> I'd consider it's a feature to avoid steps
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  311. [14:21] <chaseweb> I am currently using HTACCESS rules to switch the URL to snippet=0 but wondered how this could be fixed in the code
  312. [14:21] <dlobo> hey chaseweb
  313. [14:21] <dlobo> brian's irc handle is lcdweb
  314. [14:21] <chaseweb> oh ok I will chat private with him thanks
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  319. [14:37] <civi-activity> r43259 by deepak: - CRM-11062 -- https://fisheye2.atlassian.com/changelog/CiviCRM?cs=43259
  320. [14:37] <civi-activity> deepak: CRM-11062 Changing label for mobile phone-type breaks mass sms -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11062
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  335. [15:21] <michaelmcandrew> JoeMurray: nope
  336. [15:24] <civi-activity> stan_d: CRM-11182 The current registration process for free events doesn't make it clear that a user would be immediately registered after pressing continue on the first page of the registration form. Ideally there ... -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11182
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  338. [15:26] <civi-activity> lobo: CRM-11182 Ability to enable the registration confirmation page for free events -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11182
  339. [15:27] Last message repeated 1 time(s).
  340. [15:27] <civi-activity> lobo: CRM-11182 would be great if you can work on and contribute a patch for this. Its a free event, so i would suggest just a rename of the button -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11182
  341. [15:29] <civi-activity> lobo: CRM-11180 Change log doesn't work with real dataset (ie. more than 50 changes) -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11180
  342. [15:29] Last message repeated 1 time(s).
  343. [15:29] <civi-activity> lobo: CRM-11181 A default drupal view that display activities of current logged in user in a Calendar -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11181
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  349. [15:49] <civi-activity> dgg: CRM-11148 Andrew - Please submit a follow-up patch for 4.3.alpha1.mysql.tpl which implements the schema changes for upgrades. -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11148
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  353. [16:05] <dlobo> hey kurund
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  355. [16:05] <dlobo> hows yashi doing on her 4.2 issues?
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  358. [16:14] <civi-activity> lobo: CRM-11181 hans: there are a few dutch words in the patch. Can you ping me on irc and maybe u can help me translate :) -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11181
  359. [16:16] <dlobo> HansIdink: veld == field
  360. [16:16] <dlobo> right
  361. [16:16] <HansIdink> dlobo, yeah, I saw
  362. [16:16] <dlobo> Opnieuw instellen == ??
  363. [16:16] <dlobo> Alle == ??
  364. [16:16] <HansIdink> I should do the same on an english drupal/civicrm :)
  365. [16:17] <HansIdink> Alle = All
  366. [16:17] <HansIdink> Opnieuw instellen == Configure again (or something like that)
  367. [16:17] <dlobo> where is that displayed?
  368. [16:17] <HansIdink> no
  369. [16:18] <dlobo> Re-Configure?
  370. [16:18] <HansIdink> I only saw it in the export
  371. [16:18] <dlobo> ok
  372. [16:18] <HansIdink> let me set the site on english and redo the export, that actually might be enough
  373. [16:18] <dlobo> and this is for D7 / V3, right
  374. [16:19] <HansIdink> yep
  375. [16:20] <civi-activity> lobo: CRM-11141 Allen: are u planning on contributing a patch for this for 4.3? -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11141
  376. [16:20] <civi-activity> lobo: CRM-11141 FV:4.4 -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11141
  377. [16:21] <dlobo> ok (redo the export)
  378. [16:22] <HansIdink> doesn't help :) I'll look at the patch for Dutch words
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  380. [16:22] <HansIdink> Opnieuw instellen = reset
  381. [16:22] <dlobo> HansIdink: i think i got most of them
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  383. [16:22] <HansIdink> oh, ok
  384. [16:25] <_xavier> dlobo: about benchmark, I added a node.js program to hammer api contact.get over rest. problem is that on local it's ridiculously fast, so hard to compare. Is there a contact with api key on demo that I could use, hopefully to have something more realistic.
  385. [16:26] <HansIdink> dlobo, I think you are right, you got them all, they do appear in more then one place as you probably saw :)
  386. [16:26] <civi-activity> lobo: CRM-10549 Add IS EMPTY / IS NOT EMPTY to search builder -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-10549
  387. [16:26] <dlobo> yep
  388. [16:26] <dlobo> saw that and replaces
  389. [16:27] <dlobo> _xavier: please dont use demo to benchmark stuff
  390. [16:27] <dlobo> we already have issues with that machine to begin with
  391. [16:28] <_xavier> make sense. wasn't a good idea indeed.
  392. [16:28] <dgg> dlobo: hey - have to go to vet again at 10. t not awake yet. fyi
  393. [16:28] <dlobo> dgg: ok, what time u back
  394. [16:28] <dlobo> i have kid duty this afternoon (after 3:20)
  395. [16:28] <dgg> vet on irving. sb back pretty quck
  396. [16:28] <dlobo> ok
  397. [16:28] <dgg> (11 ish)
  398. [16:28] <dlobo> ping when back
  399. [16:28] <dgg> ok
  400. [16:28] <civi-activity> r43260 by lobo: fix CRM-11181 -- https://fisheye2.atlassian.com/changelog/CiviCRM?cs=43260
  401. [16:29] <dlobo> HansIdink: committed to trunk (4.3)
  402. [16:29] <dlobo> if u can do an update and check that would be great
  403. [16:30] <HansIdink> ok, will do and report
  404. [16:35] <dlobo> HansIdink: should it be under the conditional
  405. [16:35] <dlobo> module_exists('date_views')
  406. [16:35] <dlobo> and i cant find that module anyway
  407. [16:37] <dlobo> found it, it was in date module
  408. [16:37] <HansIdink> hmm, I do see it, I also see the events_calendar_view
  409. [16:37] <HansIdink> It needs to be under the same conditional as the events version
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  412. [16:44] <civi-activity> allenshaw: CRM-11141 Thanks for the bump, Lobo. Will try to get this in for 4.3. -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11141
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  416. [16:55] <civi-activity> mathieu@ollea.ch: CRM-11183 Accessing a created shortcut return this error : Sorry but we are not able to provide this at the moment. I think that is because of the URL, for example for New contact the shortcut URL is : /civi... -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11183
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  419. [17:01] <civi-activity> lobo: CRM-11183 can u please discuss this on forums. Also please check on the demo server and see if it works there thanx -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11183
  420. [17:02] <dlobo> hey HansIdink
  421. [17:03] <dlobo> anything special i need to do to get the default views to show up
  422. [17:03] <dlobo> the civi views dont show up
  423. [17:16] <dlobo> HansIdink: got it. had to clean up some old cruft
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  428. [17:23] <civi-activity> mathieu@ollea.ch: CRM-11183 I cannot try on the demo site because there is no link to create a shortcut next to titles -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11183
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  433. [17:33] <michaelmcandrew> do we always need a source id to create an activity? i thought not
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  435. [17:34] <michaelmcandrew> but CRM_Activity_BAO_Activity::create is saying 'A fatal error was triggered: Not enough data to create activity object' and the error goes away when i add a source_contact_id
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  437. [17:39] <michaelmcandrew> or to phrase the question slightly differently, what do you do in the situation when an api is being called from the command line and you don't know who is calling it, but the bao wants to know who is calling it?
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  441. [17:43] <michaelmcandrew> or to put it another way - can i define a user when calling the api from the command line? _xavier any idea?
  442. [17:43] <_xavier> michaelmcandrew if you set the source_contact_id it doesn't default to the logged in user, so you don't need to be logged in
  443. [17:44] <_xavier> and yes, activity is done by a contact, needs the source
  444. [17:45] <michaelmcandrew> hey _xavier - i am indirectly calling CRM_SMS_Provider::createActivity() which expects to get source_contact_id from the session
  445. [17:46] <michaelmcandrew> maybe that is a badly written class
  446. [17:46] <_xavier> And you can't have a session set from wherever you are calling it?
  447. [17:47] <_xavier> if you call it "normally" and you authenticate the user running it, you should have it
  448. [17:47] <michaelmcandrew> well i have written a Contact.Sms action
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  450. [17:47] <michaelmcandrew> so from the command line, the source_contact_id is not set
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  452. [17:48] <_xavier> command line running how?
  453. [17:48] <michaelmcandrew> drush civicrm-api Contact.sms id=1 text={contact.first_name}
  454. [17:49] <michaelmcandrew> though it doesn't need to be drush i suppose
  455. [17:49] <_xavier> I don't know how to set the current user in drush
  456. [17:50] <_xavier> but if you are using php bin/cli.php
  457. [17:50] <_xavier> should work (you need to set the current user, that will presumably be used as the source)
  458. [17:50] <michaelmcandrew> so the use case is 1) we text them. 2) they reply 3) they get a text back (via the api) that depends on what they said in 2)
  459. [17:51] <michaelmcandrew> in that case, who is the source?
  460. [17:51] <michaelmcandrew> for the third text?
  461. [17:52] <_xavier> "we" same as 1
  462. [17:53] <_xavier> or a generic admin, like for civimail
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  464. [17:53] <michaelmcandrew> ok, so how can i set that?
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  466. [17:53] <_xavier> Usage: cli.php -e entity -a action [-u user] [-s site] [--output] [PARAMS]
  467. [17:53] <_xavier> entity is the name of the entity, e.g. Contact, Event, etc.
  468. [17:53] <_xavier> action is the name of the action e.g. Get, Create, etc.
  469. [17:53] <_xavier> user is an optional username to run the script as
  470. [17:53] <_xavier> site is the domain name of the web site (for Drupal multi site installs)
  471. [17:53] <_xavier> --output will print the result from the api call
  472. [17:53] <_xavier> PARAMS is one or more --param=value combinations to pass to the api
  473. [17:56] <michaelmcandrew> ok that sounds better than drush. thanks. i guess that actually what will happen is that this will be fired from a hook which is fired when they SMS back - am wondering what and how the user will be defined at the point that hook is fired...
  474. [17:56] <michaelmcandrew> anyway - i'll see...
  475. [17:56] <michaelmcandrew> thanks for the help :)
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  478. [18:03] <michaelmcandrew> anyway, barring that little issue, the following now works: drush civicrm-api Contact.sms id=10 text='{contact.first_name} is a {contact.job_title} at {contact.current_employer}' = Katy is a designer at Third Sector Design
  479. [18:03] <michaelmcandrew> which is cool :)
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  482. [18:15] <civi-activity> lobo: CRM-11181 A default drupal view that display activities of current logged in user in a Calendar -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11181
  483. [18:16] <michaelmcandrew> dlobo: you have any thoughts on if we should switch to using a different activity type for inbound and outbound sms? http://forum.civicrm.org/index.php/topic,26480.0.html
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  485. [18:20] <ksorbo> Need help on upgrade.
  486. [18:21] <ksorbo> Running Drupal 6. Upgrading to Civi 4.2.4(drupal6). Following http://wiki.civicrm.org/confluence/display/CRMDOC41/Upgrade+Drupal+Sites+to+4.1+-+Drupal+6
  487. [18:22] <ksorbo> Upon running the upgrade script, I get a cryptic error: "Sorry but we are not able to provide this at the moment: DB Error: no such table"
  488. [18:22] <ksorbo> Does not indicate which table it cannot find
  489. [18:23] <ksorbo> I have changed the version in civicrm_domain to 2.2.9
  490. [18:24] <ksorbo> The system seems to be able to find my civi data even though the data is from Civi 3.2.1 and I have installed the code for civi 4.2.4
  491. [18:25] <civi-activity> lobo: CRM-11179 eileen: can you please try this patch thanx CRM-11179.patch -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11179
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  493. [18:30] <dlobo> yes, lets do 2 different activity types for in vs out bound sms
  494. [18:30] <dlobo> michaelmcandrew: see above
  495. [18:30] <michaelmcandrew> ta :)
  496. [18:31] <dlobo> ksorbo: can u check CiviCRM.*.log files and see if it gives u more info
  497. [18:31] <dlobo> also if u were on 3.2.1 change version to 2.2.9 seems wrong
  498. [18:31] <michaelmcandrew> if only u had a mobile u could be a tester for my chained sms module :p
  499. [18:31] <ksorbo> I just got this error: "Fatal DB error, exiting, seems like your schema does not have civicrm_setting table"
  500. [18:31] <dlobo> i do, but no wont be testing it :P
  501. [18:31] <dlobo> its just in a secret hiding place
  502. [18:32] <michaelmcandrew> u are really missing out!
  503. [18:33] <dlobo> i dont mind missing out. i appreciate the missing out part
  504. [18:35] <colemanw> nice to miss out sometimes :)
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  506. [18:38] <civi-activity> r43261 by colemanw: Fix doc -- https://fisheye2.atlassian.com/changelog/CiviCRM?cs=43261
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  509. [18:42] <civi-activity> joemurray: CRM-11034 From Edsel: I found out how the custom fields are being managed when they are selected individually and together. Its a bit complicated, there are a number of test cases as well. When a single cust... -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11034
  510. [18:46] <ksorbo> Running update (from 3.2.1 to 4.2.4), I get " Unknown column 'cli.price_field_value_id' in 'on clause', 1054"
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  519. [18:59] <edoceo> Are there any metrics about the size of the install base of CiviCRM? Like how many orgganizations, org-types and such?
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  521. [19:02] <civi-activity> chiebert: CRM-11184 I created a simple proximity-search-enabled profile, then used that profile form to search for contacts (restricted to a group, but I don't think that's part of the issue). When I select km for dis... -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11184
  522. [19:03] <dlobo> jmcclelland: how many data sets did u try?
  523. [19:03] <dlobo> curious as to sample size
  524. [19:03] <jmcclelland> 66
  525. [19:03] <jmcclelland> less than half use the membership module
  526. [19:03] <jmcclelland> of those that use the membership module many of them don't charge for membership
  527. [19:04] <jmcclelland> so - the actual sample size is more like a dozen or so.
  528. [19:04] <dgg> jmcclelland: do they all use same payment processor
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  530. [19:04] <jmcclelland> no. checking now to see which pp is used by the possible groups...
  531. [19:05] <dgg> & and by any chance does the one with the data issue use a different processor or have something else in their history that might help us narrow down causation?
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  533. [19:09] <jmcclelland> hm. sql suggestion for outputting the payment processor on a civicrm db?
  534. [19:09] Action: jmcclelland scours the schema...
  535. [19:10] <dgg> civicrm_payment_processor table will show enabled processors
  536. [19:10] <dgg> payment_processor column (4.2) in civicrm_contribution_page to see which one(s) used
  537. [19:10] <jmcclelland> aha. thanks dgg...
  538. [19:11] <dgg> civicrm_contribution_page.payment_processor_id in 4.1
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  543. [19:15] <civi-activity> dgg: CRM-11077 Copying events needs to create new copy of price set -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11077
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  545. [19:16] <civi-activity> pradeep.nayak: CRM-11106 regarding pt #4 a.1 and a.2 financial type is from civicrm_premiums_product.financial_type_id but in case of backoffice the product is not related to civicrm_premiums_product. i.e there is no contr... -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11106
  546. [19:20] <jmcclelland> Of the 20 sites that had data deleted, the group with "bad data" was using AuthNet. Three other groups also using AuthNext. 12 had no PP or dummy, 3 with PayPal standard, 1 with Google Checkout and one with PayPal
  547. [19:20] <jmcclelland> one group had both PayPal Standard AuthNet (that's why the total is 21)
  548. [19:21] <jmcclelland> dgg: i'm not sure if any thing else they might be doing that would cause this. i'll ask other ptp folks.
  549. [19:21] <dgg> jmcclelland: confused here.
  550. [19:22] <dgg> Above you say 20 sites had data deleted - you mean because you upgraded via Drush and the incorrect query picked up multiple contribs for a given membership?
  551. [19:23] <jmcclelland> dgg: yes
  552. [19:23] <jmcclelland> actuallly...
  553. [19:23] <jmcclelland> 20 sites were are max number of potential ones with deleted data
  554. [19:24] <dgg> ok
  555. [19:24] <jmcclelland> (in other words, those were the groups in which the incorrect version of the query returned results)
  556. [19:24] <dgg> got it.
  557. [19:25] <dgg> can u review Joe's suggestion for standalone script process to cleanup the 'real' invalid data? http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11120#comment-45731
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  559. [19:26] <jmcclelland> dgg: not sure if this helps, josue reports:
  560. [19:26] <jmcclelland> their practice, per former ACORN policies, is that a person gets one membership type (good for one year) and then gets moved up to another membership type if they become more active (mostly by giving more money on a monthly basis).
  561. [19:26] <jmcclelland> dgg: yes, i've already started reviewing it.
  562. [19:27] <dgg> jmcclelland: thx
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  564. [19:31] <civi-activity> dgg: CRM-11120 The steps above should be implemented as a standalone PHP script which can be run from the command line. A table listing the contribution and membership data linked to each of the deleted membershi... -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11120
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  568. [19:40] <fezziwig> Hi, looking for some help with running my CiviMail cron job on CiviHosting... anyone have any experience?
  569. [19:44] <fezziwig> seen stoob
  570. [19:44] <fezziwig> hmm, no bots here ;)
  571. [19:47] <dgg> fezziwig: not familiar w/ civihosting environment. however in general you can force a mailing to get sent via URL - but no idea if there's a reason NOT to do that w/ CiviHosting config
  572. [19:47] <dgg> civicrm/mailing/queue?reset=1 will trigger job that sends scheduled maillings
  573. [19:49] <fezziwig> well I have been going here: http://soar.osmarea.com/sites/all/modules/civicrm/bin/civimail.cronjob.php?name=admin&pass=[my_pwd]&key=[my_key]
  574. [19:49] <fezziwig> and that works...
  575. [19:49] <fezziwig> But I just need cron to actually run that
  576. [19:50] <fezziwig> I think if I have a .sh that does : GET 'http://soar.osmarea.com/sites/all/modules......'
  577. [19:50] <fezziwig> ...that *should* work, hmm?
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  580. [19:53] <civi-activity> r43262 by totten: CRM-11045 - Add unit tests for dirty removals -- https://fisheye2.atlassian.com/changelog/CiviCRM?cs=43262
  581. [19:53] <civi-activity> r43263 by totten: CRM-11045 - Better messaging when uninstalling missing payment processors -- https://fisheye2.atlassian.com/changelog/CiviCRM?cs=43263
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  585. [20:08] <civi-activity> colemanw: CRM-10929 Removing contextMenu js for 4.3 -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-10929
  586. [20:09] <civi-activity> r43264 by colemanw: Remove contextMenu js and clean up CRM-10929 -- https://fisheye2.atlassian.com/changelog/CiviCRM?cs=43264
  587. [20:09] <civi-activity> colemanw: CRM-10929 RE:0 minutes Logged '1 hour' -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-10929
  588. [20:09] <civi-activity> colemanw: CRM-10929 Somewhat broken markup and context menu on contact search results -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-10929
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  594. [20:21] <civi-activity> r43265 by colemanw: Clean up text CRM-10929 -- https://fisheye2.atlassian.com/changelog/CiviCRM?cs=43265
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  599. [20:35] <civi-activity> eileen: CRM-10554 BTW - this is the patch we use (d6) to view timestamp fields. We only converted a few key ones but have been using it smoothly for over a year - if working up for core I would move function getUFTi... -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-10554
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  604. [20:51] <fezziwig> Anyone ever have this problem with CiviMail... you schedule a mailing for, say, an hour into the future, but CiviMail ends up sending it out in the very next cron cycle anyway?
  605. [20:51] <fezziwig> Like, it does it "immediately" regardless!
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  608. [20:56] <civi-activity> lcdweb: CRM-11158 Deepak -- the group by is problematic. Not only here -- but we're running into issues with it elsewhere, such as when you do a bulk update of any kind. Because the bulk update hits multiple records... -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11158
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  610. [21:00] <michaelmcandrew> hey ChrisChinchilla petednz jchester - how is it going?
  611. [21:00] <michaelmcandrew> ready for civicon meeting?
  612. [21:00] <ChrisChinchilla> *yawn*
  613. [21:01] <ChrisChinchilla> Yes :)
  614. [21:01] <michaelmcandrew> ChrisChinchilla: :) what time is it down your way?
  615. [21:01] <ChrisChinchilla> 8am, but didn't sleep too well and have been calling a friend in the UK already :/
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  617. [21:03] <michaelmcandrew> hello JamesInglis :)
  618. [21:03] <JamesInglis> Hi everyone, I apologise for being a few mins late.
  619. [21:03] <michaelmcandrew> shall we put together a quick agenda?
  620. [21:03] <JamesInglis> sounds good!
  621. [21:03] <ChrisChinchilla> Yup
  622. [21:03] <michaelmcandrew> np JamesInglis - we have not started yet
  623. [21:04] <petednz> hi
  624. [21:04] <michaelmcandrew> what do we need to talk about?
  625. [21:04] <michaelmcandrew> hey petednz
  626. [21:04] <ChrisChinchilla> Actually what needs to happen and when, as it's getting closer, any leads&
  627. [21:04] <JamesInglis> I need to update you all re venue
  628. [21:05] <michaelmcandrew> we should also talk website and registration
  629. [21:05] <ChrisChinchilla> yup
  630. [21:05] <michaelmcandrew> anything else?
  631. [21:05] <michaelmcandrew> JamesInglis: u wanna start with venue stuff
  632. [21:06] <JamesInglis> sure
  633. [21:07] <JamesInglis> Our contact at UTS (free venue) has gone off radar since our last meeting, so I haven't been able to confirm either way with that.
  634. [21:07] <JamesInglis> I have made enquiries as to a backup location however.
  635. [21:08] <JamesInglis> The Australian Technology Park in Redfern (i.e. very central) has a variety of meeting spaces and I have prices for venue hire there.
  636. [21:08] <JamesInglis> The question is: how long do we want to leave it before giving up on the free option! :)
  637. [21:08] <michaelmcandrew> good question - what do you think?
  638. [21:09] <michaelmcandrew> do you know why they have gone off the radar?
  639. [21:09] <ChrisChinchilla> Personally, I think it can wait a little, as an actual venue can change at the last minute and it won't affect anyone coming really
  640. [21:09] <JamesInglis> True - the venues are very close to each other so wouldn't affect anyone significantly.
  641. [21:09] <michaelmcandrew> JamesInglis - are you able to reserve the back up location?
  642. [21:10] <michaelmcandrew> do you have a rough idea on costs for the backup?
  643. [21:10] <JamesInglis> I'll contact them today and find out what we need to do re. deposits etc..
  644. [21:10] <JamesInglis> Give me 30 seconds to start my email and I'll give you the costs I have!
  645. [21:10] <michaelmcandrew> ok - i'll dig out london costs by way of comparison...
  646. [21:11] <JamesInglis> OK - day rate for a lecture-style room that seats up to 80 - A$550; day rate for lecture-style room that seats up to 26 (for break out) - A$287.
  647. [21:12] <JamesInglis> This doesn't include any catering.
  648. [21:12] <michaelmcandrew> we paid 2.5k GBP for a central venue big enough for for 120
  649. [21:12] <michaelmcandrew> we paid 1.1k for catering
  650. [21:12] <JamesInglis> I'm just checking for ballpark catering figures
  651. [21:13] <ChrisChinchilla> Do you guys have any large coworking spaces in Sydney? They're often good value and supportive (I know you have small ones)
  652. [21:13] <michaelmcandrew> (it was central london) so those rates seem affordable to me
  653. [21:13] <JamesInglis> I haven't come across anything other than small coworking locations& Am I the only Sydneysider in the room?
  654. [21:14] <ChrisChinchilla> But those rates aren't bad as plan B :)
  655. [21:14] <JamesInglis> yeah, I was quick surprised!
  656. [21:14] <JamesInglis> They have smaller rooms available for the sprints if we needed to go down that route as well.
  657. [21:14] <JamesInglis> * quite surprised
  658. [21:15] <michaelmcandrew> that sounds good and nice to have things in the same place - any chance you can hold them for now and we agree a cut off date for the free venue?
  659. [21:15] <JamesInglis> That sounds like a good plan. I'll jump on the phone this morning and sort out reservations.
  660. [21:15] <michaelmcandrew> great - nice one :)
  661. [21:15] <JamesInglis> How long do you guys think we should leave it for the free venue?
  662. [21:16] <ChrisChinchilla> I would say maybe another month, before it gets crazy for christmas
  663. [21:16] <JamesInglis> Just passing on an apology from Andrew Perry - he's been pretty sick for the last few days, and he's not able to make it.
  664. [21:16] <michaelmcandrew> how come they are off the radar?
  665. [21:17] <JamesInglis> michaelmcandrew: really good question - I know it's crazy season for academics at the moment (end of year student exams etc.) but I'm not able to get a response by phone or by email.
  666. [21:17] <civi-activity> jamie: CRM-11185 When I try to import contributions with duplicate transaction ids, I get an error: PHP Fatal error: Call to undefined method CRM_Core_Error::fields() in /var/aegir/platforms/poniatowska-ourpowerbas... -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11185
  667. [21:17] <ChrisChinchilla> you'll have to go in and bash heads together&
  668. [21:17] <michaelmcandrew> i think as long we have a back up confirmed we can leave it for a while (since we don't need to advertise the location yet).
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  670. [21:18] <JamesInglis> How does a "cut off" date of Monday 26th November sound, in just under 4 weeks?
  671. [21:18] <michaelmcandrew> only thing is that we wouldn't want to loose the backup from not paying a deposit in time, etc. and seeing as it is good value, i am tempted by it personally
  672. [21:18] <civi-activity> r43266 by jamie: CRM-11185 -- https://fisheye2.atlassian.com/changelog/CiviCRM?cs=43266
  673. [21:18] <civi-activity> jamie: CRM-11185 Eileen - would you mind reviewing my patch? Not sure if or xav are the right person for this. -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11185
  674. [21:19] <ChrisChinchilla> i would say, provisionally the 16th, unless their cancellation policy dictates otherwise
  675. [21:19] <michaelmcandrew> JamesInglis: yeah - as long as we have the other one guarunteed imo
  676. [21:19] <ChrisChinchilla> 26th sorry
  677. [21:19] <JamesInglis> michaelmcandrew: I agree, it is a good option. I'll find out what we would need to secure it, and talk to Andrew.
  678. [21:19] <michaelmcandrew> cool
  679. [21:20] <JamesInglis> There is the slightly thorny question of financial liability for the event which we need to cover at some point.
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  681. [21:20] <michaelmcandrew> ok - lets put that on the agenda
  682. [21:20] <JamesInglis> michaelmcandrew: thanks
  683. [21:21] <JamesInglis> Do we have any other questions re. venue?
  684. [21:21] <michaelmcandrew> not from me
  685. [21:22] <ChrisChinchilla> nope
  686. [21:22] <JamesInglis> Shall we move on to website & marketing?
  687. [21:22] <michaelmcandrew> lets go for it
  688. [21:23] <michaelmcandrew> so jared did a great job on the logo :)
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  690. [21:23] <JamesInglis> He did. he's also done a really good job on the theme as well.
  691. [21:23] <ChrisChinchilla> he did, congrats!
  692. [21:23] <ChrisChinchilla> Look forward to the theme
  693. [21:23] <JamesInglis> Let me find the JPEG mockup and I'll send it around.
  694. [21:24] <michaelmcandrew> cool - so as per email we should be able to stick that up on sydney2013.civicrm.org as soon as it is ready
  695. [21:24] <ChrisChinchilla> great
  696. [21:25] <JamesInglis> Yep - as long as everyone's okay with it, I'll be the one updating the theme - putting my theming hat on :)
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  698. [21:26] <michaelmcandrew> cool - previously we have had 'i am going to / sponsoring civicon badges for websites as well http://london2012.civicrm.org/spread-the-word
  699. [21:26] <michaelmcandrew> any chance jared could make some of those?
  700. [21:26] <JamesInglis> let me chat to him when he gets in today
  701. [21:27] <JamesInglis> they look pretty straightforward
  702. [21:27] <ChrisChinchilla> do you have the original files anywhere, then he can just change the text
  703. [21:27] <michaelmcandrew> that would be cool, and a simple email template would be awesome as well if poss :D
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  706. [21:27] <michaelmcandrew> i'll ask kurund to send them over
  707. [21:28] <JamesInglis> I believe he's already working on an email template. Something simple we can drop into CiviMail, yes?
  708. [21:28] <michaelmcandrew> exactly
  709. [21:28] <michaelmcandrew> cool
  710. [21:28] <ChrisChinchilla> I have some ideas around copy for marketing / outreach emails to
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  712. [21:28] <ChrisChinchilla> will start adding into wiki
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  715. [21:29] <michaelmcandrew> ChrisChinchilla: what do you have in mind??
  716. [21:29] <JamesInglis> Hey, what's the best way to get this JPEG mockup out to you guys?
  717. [21:30] <michaelmcandrew> JamesInglis: civicon-sydney@googlegroups.com
  718. [21:30] <ChrisChinchilla> very rough right now, but just around mentioning who's using it, case studies, i.e. aiming at the people sitting at the CRM fence as it were, I only started thinking about it yesterday&
  719. [21:31] <michaelmcandrew> Do you think we can get the website stuff up in the next week or so?
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  723. [21:32] <ChrisChinchilla> Happy to help with testing over the weekend if it's needed
  724. [21:32] <michaelmcandrew> JamesInglis: do you have jared's email?
  725. [21:32] <michaelmcandrew> so i can copy him into email to kurund re: buttons
  726. [21:33] <JamesInglis> just finding it now
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  728. [21:36] <JamesInglis> michaelmcandrew: just sending by email
  729. [21:36] <michaelmcandrew> ta
  730. [21:37] <JamesInglis> chat logs can be trawled by spam harvesters too :)
  731. [21:37] <michaelmcandrew> http://civicrm.org/civicrm/event/info?reset=1&id=252
  732. [21:37] <JamesInglis> michaelmcandrew: page currently unavailable?
  733. [21:37] <civi-activity> lcdweb: CRM-11180 Deepak -- I'm seeing this too (it explains some oddities we were experiencing). removing the LIMIT clause in the INSERT statement solves the issue. but has performance impact. I think the method is... -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11180
  734. [21:37] <michaelmcandrew> ChrisChinchilla: have put a skeleton event up (currently disabled)
  735. [21:38] <ChrisChinchilla> ok
  736. [21:38] <michaelmcandrew> wondering if you might like to start filling out some of the content with ur marketing hat on
  737. [21:38] <ChrisChinchilla> OK, will do
  738. [21:38] <ChrisChinchilla> Do i need a login?
  739. [21:38] <michaelmcandrew> we can help with stuff like sponsor discount codes when the time comes
  740. [21:38] <michaelmcandrew> for civicrm.org
  741. [21:39] <michaelmcandrew> i can give u permission
  742. [21:39] <ChrisChinchilla> so i use my site login? OK, ChrisChinchilla as always is the username
  743. [21:40] <michaelmcandrew> u should be able to access civicrm.org/civicrm
  744. [21:41] <ChrisChinchilla> Yup, CiviCRM's CiviCRM, this is some sort of weird spiral&
  745. [21:42] <ChrisChinchilla> can't see event in there though, was that the right ID?
  746. [21:42] <totten> dlobo: hey i isolated the change which caused the buttons on the 'extensions' screen to regress
  747. [21:42] <totten> although i don't understand the form system well enough to say why
  748. [21:42] <totten> https://fisheye2.atlassian.com/changelog/CiviCRM?cs=43124
  749. [21:43] <totten> which was for http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-9483
  750. [21:43] <dlobo> totten: hang on
  751. [21:43] <dlobo> commiting some code
  752. [21:43] <michaelmcandrew> can u see it on this page? http://civicrm.org/civicrm/event/manage?reset=1
  753. [21:43] <civi-activity> eileen: CRM-11185 Jamie - that seems fine - we are trying to make all API calls throw an exception rather than return an error - however - we don't seem to have gotten very far on making that change e.g. from Relati... -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11185
  754. [21:44] <ChrisChinchilla> agh, sorry, there it is, I was on the dashboard.
  755. [21:44] <ChrisChinchilla> Goodo, will have a go
  756. [21:45] <JamesInglis> Just sent the website mockup to the group email address
  757. [21:45] <michaelmcandrew> thanks James - what do you think is realistic for getting the site up and running since it would be great to get a couple of emails out before people start getting too pre-occupied with xmas
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  759. [21:46] <JamesInglis> michaelmcandrew: I'm unable to post to the list...
  760. [21:46] <civi-activity> r43267 by lobo: fix CRM-11132 -- https://fisheye2.atlassian.com/changelog/CiviCRM?cs=43267
  761. [21:47] <michaelmcandrew> JamesInglis: that is strange - it says posting allowed...
  762. [21:47] <civi-activity> eileen: CRM-11180 Deepak - just as an aside - when looking at this - do you want to also eyeball - http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-10748 - it's touching on the same areas of code just changes interval to b... -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11180
  763. [21:48] <JamesInglis> michaelmcandrew: where can I check which email address is subscribed to the list?
  764. [21:48] <JamesInglis> I think I'm sending from the right one...
  765. [21:48] <dlobo> totten: see PM
  766. [21:48] <totten> dlobo: trying but can't
  767. [21:48] <totten> le tme restart colloquy
  768. [21:48] <michaelmcandrew> JamesInglis: just sent it to you in a pm
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  771. [21:50] <JamesInglis> michaelmcandrew: seems to have gone through!
  772. [21:50] <ChrisChinchilla> What else do we need to discuss? It seems to only be us three&
  773. [21:51] <ChrisChinchilla> (I might actually put the next meeting in our meet up group as a session, get a few extra perhaps)
  774. [21:51] <grobot> eileen i'm restarting work on that Mailing Create API I proposed
  775. [21:51] <eileen> grobot - Yay
  776. [21:51] <michaelmcandrew> JamesInglis: looks cool
  777. [21:51] <petednz> ChrisChinchilla: still snooping here
  778. [21:51] <jchester> well, I am hiding in the wings waiting to jump oin if I have anything to contribute
  779. [21:51] <ChrisChinchilla> yay :)
  780. [21:51] <dlobo> michaelmcandrew: ChrisChinchilla do we have a list of sponsors that we can approach
  781. [21:52] <dlobo> might be worth trying to touch bases with them personally
  782. [21:52] <dlobo> and start lining up a few gold and silver sponsors
  783. [21:52] <dlobo> especially the local ones
  784. [21:52] <ChrisChinchilla> slowly been building one, I got a very good lead last night on one that I'm waiting on details from
  785. [21:52] <ChrisChinchilla> adding them as I think of them to the wiki and when I've written something I'll start sending out
  786. [21:52] <ChrisChinchilla> pretty soon, in the next few weeks at latest
  787. [21:53] <ChrisChinchilla> also, planning a few radio show spots
  788. [21:53] <ChrisChinchilla> to spruik
  789. [21:53] <michaelmcandrew> dlobo: ChrisChinchilla - shall we chat offline re-potential sponsors?
  790. [21:53] <civi-activity> r43268 by lobo: fix CRM-11179 -- https://fisheye2.atlassian.com/changelog/CiviCRM?cs=43268
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  792. [21:54] <michaelmcandrew> seems like getting registration open and some sponsorships sorted is the top priority
  793. [21:54] <ChrisChinchilla> dlobo: michaelmcandrew: Sure, all suggestions welcome, I'm adding to the Wiki as I go, so in the unlikely event I've thought of them already, you can see there
  794. [21:54] <civi-activity> lobo: CRM-11184 PHP notice undefined variable "quillUnits" when using proximity search with "km" units -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11184
  795. [21:55] <michaelmcandrew> did you guys come up with appropriate sponsorship levels?
  796. [21:55] <dlobo> michaelmcandrew: lets do it tomorrow. i need to leave to pick kids up
  797. [21:55] <dlobo> i'll take a look and add to wiki also
  798. [21:55] <ChrisChinchilla> Work has died down a little for a few weeks, so good chance to give things some thought
  799. [21:56] <michaelmcandrew> jchester: cool :) - anything stick out as something you'd like to get started on?
  800. [21:56] <michaelmcandrew> lets aim to get website up by next week and mailing out soon after
  801. [21:56] <ChrisChinchilla> cool
  802. [21:56] <jchester> I am so new to all this I have no idea what I could help with,
  803. [21:57] <JamesInglis> sounds good - I'll work on the website this week, mailing template next.
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  806. [21:58] <michaelmcandrew> jchester: if you had some time to help ChrisChinchilla with getting the event up on civicrm.org that might be cool
  807. [21:59] <jchester> Yep, I could do help with that.
  808. [21:59] <jchester> setting up events is about all I can do
  809. [21:59] <civi-activity> dgg: CRM-11077 Shawn - I retested your scenario (template B based on template A via 'Add Event Template'. Also tested copy event from Manage Events. In all cases, new 'quick config' price set was created along wi... -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11077
  810. [22:00] <ChrisChinchilla> Going to have to make a move now, work to do& jchester: you can find my details on civicdm.org (i think) and I'll keep everyone posted!
  811. [22:00] <eileen> michaelmcandrew - do we need to give out some drupal permissions?
  812. [22:00] <michaelmcandrew> eileen: - you wanna set jchester up?
  813. [22:00] <eileen> ChrisChinchilla jchester - you have met each other @ Melbourne meet-up
  814. [22:00] <civi-activity> ogomez78: CRM-7878 We're using Drupal 6.22, CiviCRM 4.1.5 and the wysiwyg API, IMCE setup with CKEditor library and pathologic. We've setup civi to use the drupal default editor. Inserting tokens doesn't work when us... -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-7878
  815. [22:01] <jchester> and last night also
  816. [22:01] <ChrisChinchilla> Ah, is this joanne?
  817. [22:01] <ChrisChinchilla> ahhhh
  818. [22:01] <jchester> Yes
  819. [22:01] <eileen> yep & will make ChrisChincilla a blogger -on civicrm.org if he isn't already
  820. [22:01] <michaelmcandrew> sound good - so we have another meeting on the 13th nov. by which time we should have a site up and running and initial mailing out :)
  821. [22:01] <ChrisChinchilla> I think I am, well, I posted some blogs, so must be
  822. [22:01] <michaelmcandrew> ChrisChinchilla: has blogger and events
  823. [22:01] <ChrisChinchilla> OK, this is a mailing to who though? sponsors? Or just a general one?
  824. [22:02] <michaelmcandrew> once we have that under out belts we can start thinking sessions - we probably have 2 * 4 sessions
  825. [22:02] <michaelmcandrew> i think we probably need both
  826. [22:02] <michaelmcandrew> ^ both general and sponsors
  827. [22:02] <ChrisChinchilla> right, I'll try my best, I may not have found contacts yet, but can certainly have written something
  828. [22:03] <michaelmcandrew> cool
  829. [22:03] <ChrisChinchilla> got to go now& Talk soon
  830. [22:03] <ChrisChinchilla> :)
  831. [22:03] <michaelmcandrew> me too
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  833. [22:03] <michaelmcandrew> will send round an update tomorrow...
  834. [22:03] <JamesInglis> thanks everyone!
  835. [22:03] <michaelmcandrew> ttyl
  836. [22:03] <michaelmcandrew> cheers people :)
  837. [22:04] <petednz> must be a bit of a lag across the Tasman happening on IRC - was there anything Eileen or I should be doing?
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  839. [22:04] <eileen> micahelmcandrew - error on http://civicrm.org/user/8877/edit + save - take it you get it too?
  840. [22:05] <JamesInglis> petednz: I don't think there was anything. Were you involved with the website or marketing?
  841. [22:05] <michaelmcandrew> eileen: same for me
  842. [22:05] <petednz> JamesInglis: marketing most likely
  843. [22:05] <eileen> dgg - who looks after civicrm.org - fatal error on save - http://civicrm.org/admin/reports/event/884657
  844. [22:06] <michaelmcandrew> petednz: would be great if you could put your thinking cap on re: potential sponsors
  845. [22:06] <michaelmcandrew> petednz: also, did you want to think about training?
  846. [22:07] <michaelmcandrew> i think eileen is down for sprints and sessions :)
  847. [22:07] <petednz> michaelmcandrew: yes you had me down for helping run some User training - and yes sponsors are on our mind - though I don't know that many rich Ozzies ;-)
  848. [22:08] <jchester> do we have definite dates yet - everything I have seen hhasquestion marks
  849. [22:08] <dgg> eileen: i'll pass along to web access
  850. [22:08] <michaelmcandrew> more than me :) do you and chrischincilla want to think about the right price to pitch it at?
  851. [22:08] <eileen> thanks dgg - also - while jchester is here (& since the meeting seems to have ended) I wanted to pick your brains on http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11138
  852. [22:09] <dgg> eileen: what change were you trying to make on that user record?
  853. [22:09] <michaelmcandrew> jchester: http://wiki.civicrm.org/confluence/display/CRM/CiviCon+Sydney+2013 the question marks are slowly disappearing :)
  854. [22:09] <eileen> dgg on jchester - add blogger & events roles to her
  855. [22:09] <petednz> michaelmcandrew: yes but not sure how to declare my conflict of interest as I am keen to sponsor - so would want to drive the price down ;-)
  856. [22:09] <totten> dgg: http://www.joomla.org/announcements/release-news/5464-joomla-3-0-0-released.html
  857. [22:09] <eileen> so she can set up events in Civi (I hope that's what events do)
  858. [22:09] <eileen> ie. events role
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  860. [22:10] <michaelmcandrew> eileen and jchester - yes that is
  861. [22:10] <michaelmcandrew> .. what events do
  862. [22:11] <michaelmcandrew> ok - see you guys
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  864. [22:11] <eileen> sleep well
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  866. [22:14] <dgg> eileen: and jchester have you verified that membership type id is NOT exposed to the message template?
  867. [22:15] <eileen> dgg - yashi's point is that the membership_name is not populated where there are price sets because there are more than one
  868. [22:15] <eileen> but, in the default template it still uses the membership_name token - I don't quite get that - because - shouldn't they always be pricesets now?
  869. [22:16] <dgg> eileen: yes - so it depends on whether it's exposed as a single string or if there's an array variable - which would make sense in the new architecture
  870. [22:17] <dgg> (eileen - btw, this whole price set conversion which was your idea has aged me by 10 years)
  871. [22:17] <dgg> :-)
  872. [22:17] <eileen> I'm sorry :-(
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  874. [22:18] <dgg> next step IMO is to add {debug} to the message template in a test environment and see what's exposed now.
  875. [22:18] <jchester> dgg - I don't think it is - I am very new to this - but i stuck debug in the template and scourred the email source for it and couldn't find anything
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  877. [22:19] <eileen> yes, from a debug point of view - I mean - I could see why the membership_name wasn't exposed & it looked like a typo rather than an architecture (there's a patch on that ticket)
  878. [22:19] <eileen> but, logically, what should happen?
  879. [22:19] <dgg> jchester: ok cool. did you find any arrays in that debug that might contain membershiptype related info
  880. [22:20] <eileen> ie if they are ALWAYS price sets then.... either the membeship_name token is not relevant (& should come out of the default message template) or it should be used when only 1 membership type is selected
  881. [22:22] <dgg> eileen: isn't there some token in the receipt that evaluates to membership type 'label'
  882. [22:22] <eileen> dgg - yes, there is
  883. [22:22] <dgg> (else how is the receipt showing that info)
  884. [22:22] <eileen> but currently the line $membershipTypeID = $membershipParams['selectMembership'];
  885. [22:22] <dgg> (either as singleton or in line items)
  886. [22:22] <eileen> isn't loading up the membership as it is an array
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  888. [22:23] <eileen> {$membership_name} is in the default receipt
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  890. [22:23] <eileen> So, the field is there but it doesn't work in our testing because the membership isn't being retrieved before it is assigned
  891. [22:24] <eileen> So, what we are seeing is membership is a priceset so it's not retrieved. An answer would be if(count($membershipParams['selectMembership']) ==1 ){ $membershipTypeID = $membershipParams['selectMembership'][0];}
  892. [22:25] <eileen> & then the {$membership_name} token would be populated. But at the moment the logic then says not to populate price set tpl vars if memberships are populated
  893. [22:26] <eileen> So, in the first instance this is a question of "what is the correct behaviour". Should {$membership_name} which IS in the default template be populated now that everything is a price set
  894. [22:26] <eileen> if so, when - my best answer is "when there is only 1"
  895. [22:27] <dgg> eileen: it looks to me like the places where membership_name is used are now cruft, but i haven't looked at underlying code
  896. [22:28] <dgg> if their not cruft, then the quick config price set flow would be broken based on your testing
  897. [22:28] <jchester> Personally I would rather go the way of having $membershiptypeID available and get rid of $membership_name if it has no real use now everything is in price sets
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  899. [22:28] <eileen> jchester - the problem isn't which variable - it's the assumption of only one membership per receipt
  900. [22:29] <eileen> dgg - so - we are working with single-membership price-sets - but not the quick config ones
  901. [22:29] <jchester> yes
  902. [22:30] <eileen> so, perhaps the single membership tokens work in that flow - it's just the user expectation that the behaviour for a page with only one membership would be consistent
  903. [22:31] <eileen> dgg - does this make sense in principal
  904. [22:31] <eileen> 1) if only one membership expose that to the tpl
  905. [22:31] <dgg> eileen: and jchester I feel like the issue did not clarify the actual use case(s) affected :-(
  906. [22:32] <dgg> i assumed you were using quick config
  907. [22:32] <eileen> 2) also expose is_quick_config
  908. [22:32] <eileen> & then tpl logic can use the combination of those 2 to determine what to show
  909. [22:32] <civi-activity> colemanw: CRM-11186 It seems our aging formNavigate plugin (circa 2009) was not compatible with our recent jQuery upgrade. I have fixed it, but really should push the changes back upstream. Unfortunately I can't find ... -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11186
  910. [22:33] <eileen> dgg - hmm - yes - I guess we never use quick config so I didn't think of that assumption
  911. [22:33] <dgg> eileen: yes that's one approach
  912. [22:33] <dgg> eileen: but that's the default behavior in 4.2
  913. [22:33] <dgg> (quick_config)
  914. [22:33] <dgg> (esp for ONE membership)
  915. [22:33] <civi-activity> r43269 by colemanw: Fix formNavigate CRM-11186 -- https://fisheye2.atlassian.com/changelog/CiviCRM?cs=43269
  916. [22:34] <eileen> dgg yes, but we don't have any customers who have membership pages without any other options
  917. [22:34] <eileen> most have at least an optional payment...
  918. [22:34] <civi-activity> colemanw: CRM-11186 jQuery formNavigate broken -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11186
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  920. [22:35] <dgg> eileen: ok - so in terms of resolution - seems better to always put membership info (type, start date, end date, fee) into an array
  921. [22:35] <dgg> which might have 1 or multiple items
  922. [22:35] <eileen> yes, agree
  923. [22:35] <civi-activity> colemanw: CRM-11186 jQuery formNavigate broken -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11186
  924. [22:35] <dgg> that way we're simplifying the template code
  925. [22:36] <dgg> rather than adding more if else stuff
  926. [22:36] <eileen> Oh - so assign to the template as an array of 1 or more
  927. [22:36] <dgg> yes
  928. [22:36] <eileen> & then template can extract first if relevant
  929. [22:36] <dgg> yes
  930. [22:37] <eileen> so {$membership_name} becomes {membership.0.membership_name}
  931. [22:37] <dgg> and if the desired effect if only 1 is to not show as line items - that can be accomplished regardless of quick_config or not
  932. [22:37] <dgg> yes
  933. [22:37] <eileen> that makes sense -
  934. [22:38] <dgg> eileen: that said, i don't understand / follow the current conditionals / variables in the that msg template. eg. {if $membership_assign && !$useForMember}
  935. [22:38] <dgg> and the various permutations
  936. [22:39] <dgg> i know that a "goal" was to make singleton membership signup receipts look as they did in 4.1 (and not do line_item listings)
  937. [22:40] <eileen> I don't think those fields are new
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  939. [22:40] <dgg> well something was added to that template in 4.2 to accomplish above "goal"
  940. [22:40] <eileen> but I'll take a look now I have an idea or what we think should happen
  941. [22:41] <dgg> i.e. so that quick_config price sets do NOT list in table as Item, Qty, Each, Total
  942. [22:41] <dgg> which is the default layout for regular price sets
  943. [22:43] <eileen> Ok - I'll dig a little - I feel like the conditionals are a bit too random-looking in the code @ the moment - ie. things that are by design can be mistaken for accidents
  944. [22:43] <dgg> ok
  945. [22:44] <eileen> (in particular the distinction between single value vs array)
  946. [22:44] <dgg> eileen: some comments inline would help for sure
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  948. [22:46] <eileen> yep - because a lot of functionality seems to hinge on this $membershipTypeID = $membershipParams['selectMembership']; returning an invalid value - to make things work ....
  949. [22:47] <eileen> thanks dgg
  950. [22:47] <dgg> sure
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  953. [22:55] <civi-activity> eileen: CRM-11138 Ok - so discussed this with dgg. Some notes 1) during the 4.2 series membership_name stopped working for NON-quick-config price sets with only 1 membership. (haven't tested quick config). 2) dgg su... -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11138
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  959. [23:05] <civi-activity> dgg: CRM-11120 Please work with Pradeep to review Joe's spec and create the standalone script to remove extraneous membership_payment records. I've created a stub page on the wiki where a link to download the scr... -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11120
  960. [23:07] <civi-activity> lcdweb: CRM-11180 here's my take: http://paste2.org/p/2399515 -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11180
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  967. [23:18] <grobot> is there a defined format arrays should be for API consumption? eg mailing create might have multiple groups to send the mail to.
  968. [23:18] <grobot> i'm using class.api.php and it gives an error on this - i may have an older version however
  969. [23:18] <grobot> (because it tries to urlencode the value, which won't work for an array
  970. [23:19] <grobot> in http://svn.civicrm.org/civicrm/trunk/api/class.api.php function remoteCall()
  971. [23:19] <_xavier> grobot: you mean over REST?
  972. [23:19] <grobot> yes
  973. [23:20] <_xavier> and you need an array? I fixed it last week for api.chain, should work as well
  974. [23:20] <_xavier> let me find it
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  976. [23:20] <grobot> not in trunk above though
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  978. [23:20] <civi-activity> lobo: CRM-11185 contribution create function doesn't check for error -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11185
  979. [23:21] <_xavier> the general idea is to have a post json={"param":["item","item"]}
  980. [23:21] <_xavier> so json encode
  981. [23:21] <grobot> i may need an array for $api->Mailing->Create(array('groups' => array(1,2)))
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  983. [23:21] <_xavier> I used it from node.js, patch welcome for class.api.php
  984. [23:21] <civi-activity> r43270 by lobo: fix formatting -- https://fisheye2.atlassian.com/changelog/CiviCRM?cs=43270
  985. [23:21] <grobot> remoteCall() just does $_GET param style though? what format would REST.php want it in?
  986. [23:22] <grobot> param[]=item&param[]=item or?
  987. [23:22] <_xavier> post and json=json_encode (param)
  988. [23:22] <_xavier> http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11169
  989. [23:23] <grobot> ah so patch welcome to make class.api.php use json post?
  990. [23:23] <_xavier> exactly
  991. [23:23] <grobot> ok
  992. [23:23] <_xavier> the rest is working
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  995. [23:24] <_xavier> grobot: this is how I did it in node.js https://github.com/TechToThePeople/node-civicrm/blob/master/civicrm.js
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  997. [23:24] <_xavier> line 36
  998. [23:25] <grobot> i see
  999. [23:25] <grobot> so that code may not handle array submissions yet either?
  1000. [23:26] <grobot> * not a nodester yet
  1001. [23:26] <grobot> ** but can read JS ok
  1002. [23:26] <_xavier> you are right, I should do the same if object OR array
  1003. [23:27] <grobot> for my example, params would be an array, and then ONE of the values in it would also be an array
  1004. [23:27] <grobot> you're only testing the top level there AFAICT
  1005. [23:27] <_xavier> and I'm testing objects, not array (different in js)
  1006. [23:27] <grobot> yes
  1007. [23:27] <civi-activity> r43271 by lobo: fix CRM-11184 -- https://fisheye2.atlassian.com/changelog/CiviCRM?cs=43271
  1008. [23:27] <civi-activity> eileen: CRM-11180 Yep - seems right - the way you've handled cid is to get it from the url? or can that be just set when the class is initiated (if it's called from somewhere else). Anyway makes sense to me. -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11180
  1009. [23:27] <civi-activity> lobo: CRM-11184 PHP notice undefined variable "quillUnits" when using proximity search with "km" units -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11184
  1010. [23:28] <grobot> so rest.php will accept params as $_GET params OR as $_POST json?
  1011. [23:28] <_xavier> i recommend POST
  1012. [23:28] <_xavier> It should work for both
  1013. [23:28] <grobot> $_POST['json'] = json_encode($params)?
  1014. [23:28] <_xavier> yes
  1015. [23:28] <grobot> ^ if you get my drift
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  1017. [23:28] <civi-activity> lobo: CRM-11184 PHP notice undefined variable "quillUnits" when using proximity search with "km" units -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11184
  1018. [23:28] <grobot> ok, that should be pretty straightforward then
  1019. [23:30] <dlobo_> _xavier: might want to check here and confirm if calling extern/rest.php does really bootstrap the cms
  1020. [23:30] <dlobo_> based on response, i suspect not
  1021. [23:30] <_xavier> grobot: if you are on trunk, the commit for CRM-11169 might not have been merged yet
  1022. [23:30] <grobot> i just googled class.api.php
  1023. [23:31] <grobot> what branch is your commit?
  1024. [23:31] <grobot> i'm testing on 4.2.x i think, whatever was on my laptop, but will provide patch against your branch
  1025. [23:31] <grobot> i'm gonna end up backporting this filth to 3.4.8 anyway so not too fussy about chasing HEAD :P
  1026. [23:32] <_xavier> I don't think class.api are different between 4.2 and trunk
  1027. [23:32] <_xavier> and should be transparent to backport anyway
  1028. [23:32] <grobot> doesn't look like a lot of change there, mine is old and still not far off
  1029. [23:32] <grobot> ~3mo old
  1030. [23:32] <grobot> ~3 lines diff
  1031. [23:32] <grobot> oh and some whitespace "improvements" from code-style ;)
  1032. [23:33] <grobot> function remoteCall(
  1033. [23:33] <grobot> ) {
  1034. [23:33] <_xavier> grobot: btw, I am tempted to go the jquery chaining way, do you think it'd make sense?
  1035. [23:33] <grobot> is the current model different? i haven't tried any chaining.
  1036. [23:34] <_xavier> eg name = $api->Contact->Get->values[0]->sort_name;
  1037. [23:34] <grobot> that is nicer than get(); $api->lastResult->
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  1039. [23:35] <_xavier> ok, will try
  1040. [23:35] <grobot> yes please. only comment there would be if people expect to perform actions on chained results (which is what i'd read "jquery chaining" as)
  1041. [23:35] <_xavier> grobot, you can already $api->values
  1042. [23:36] <grobot> eg $api->contact->get->values->action(); to set for all array values in ->values result
  1043. [23:36] <_xavier> too many levels of chaining for me, it's past midnight here ;)
  1044. [23:36] <grobot> haha
  1045. [23:37] <_xavier> Will ping you when I tried.
  1046. [23:37] <_xavier> and let me know how the json workaround behaved
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  1049. [23:46] <civi-activity> r43272 by lobo: more formatting fixs -- https://fisheye2.atlassian.com/changelog/CiviCRM?cs=43272
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  1052. [23:47] <dgg> dlobo_: fyi, that new line in Core_Session also caused GenCode.php to blow up in my trunk sandbox
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  1054. [23:48] <JamesInglis> dgg: Just wondering if you know when 4.2.5 will be released to the masses!
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  1056. [23:48] <dlobo_> dgg: hang on
  1057. [23:48] <dlobo_> let me try
  1058. [23:49] <dgg> dlobo_: ok
  1059. [23:49] <dlobo_> pretty sure i did a regen a ddaty ago
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  1061. [23:49] <dlobo_> gives a warning on session_start
  1062. [23:49] <dgg> dlobo_: this is the warning i'm seeing
  1063. [23:49] <dlobo_> but keeps going, right dgg
  1064. [23:49] <dgg> yes right
  1065. [23:49] <dgg> blow up was a strong word
  1066. [23:49] <dlobo_> does not blow up
  1067. [23:50] <dlobo_> ok i saw the warning with drush too
  1068. [23:50] <dlobo_> let me take a look and fix now
  1069. [23:50] <dgg> cool
  1070. [23:50] <dgg> JamesInglis: s/b later this week pending some work that still needs to be done tho
  1071. [23:50] <civi-activity> eileen: CRM-11179 I don't still have the database in the same state so I tried dropping the modified created columns turning back on. It didn't re-create the columns didn't fatal - so assuming this is the desired ou... -- http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-11179
  1072. [23:51] <JamesInglis> dgg: thanks - I've got a couple of sites needing to upgrade from 4.1.x so am thinking it's worth holding off a couple of days
  1073. [23:51] <dgg> JamesInglis: yes
  1074. [23:52] lcdweb|2 (~kvirc@63.118.57.211) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds
  1075. [23:58] <civi-activity> r43273 by lobo: fix CRM-9483 -- https://fisheye2.atlassian.com/changelog/CiviCRM?cs=43273
  1076. [00:00] --- Tue Dec 11 2015
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