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 Laura Ingraham waving goodbye to her advertisers Poor girl, she did nazi see this coming https://twitter.com/DrainTheTrumps/status/979754346803093504/photo/1
Topic set by AndroidUS!~AndroidUS@32.209.148.69 on Sat Mar 31 2018 02:44:41 GMT-0700 (PDT)
16:49	laceless`	Oh boy.  Batten down the hatches.  Raindonna is about to start babbling.
16:50	|werejag|	wooot
16:50	SimpleJak	I dislike Laura Ingraham.
16:50	dez_	I like the name laura
16:51	dez_	And i prefer to pronounce your nick simple yak
16:52	Popper	dez_, should we start calling you laura?
16:52	SimpleJak	Please ensure your posts have 'scope' beyond your preferences.
16:52		*** SimpleJak was kicked by |werejag| (wtf)
16:52		!!! You have been kicked from #obama
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 Laura Ingraham waving goodbye to her advertisers Poor girl, she did nazi see this coming https://twitter.com/DrainTheTrumps/status/979754346803093504/photo/1
Topic set by AndroidUS!~AndroidUS@32.209.148.69 on Sat Mar 31 2018 02:44:41 GMT-0700 (PDT)
16:56	SimpleJak	Show YouTube video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IF65fBEYfwI)
16:56	RoboTurmp	[ Selma Ending Scene - YouTube ] - https://goo.gl/eyNjtM
16:56	|werejag|	need fixing?
16:56	dez_	Today was a good day
16:57	dez_	Quoth ice cube
16:58	SimpleJak	"We heard them say they'd stop us, if it was the last thing they did. We heard them say we don't deserve to be here. But today, we stand as Americans. We are here, and we ain't gonna let nobody turn us around." - Martin Luther King, Jr.
16:59	Popper	"please call me laura", Dez
17:00	Popper	two very important quotes
17:00	SimpleJak	Popper: I chose to ignore you at this time.
17:00	dez_	Popper: im not trans, pigeon fucker
17:01	bad-bob	dez: dont kinkshame please
17:02	dez_	Brazilian toxic masculinity ironically sexualizes trans women. I suppose that means you want to fuck me Popper. Im going to consider this a compliment.
17:02	dez_	bad-bob: ill kink shame the shit out of pigeon fucking
17:03	dez_	Its aside from bizarre animal abuse
17:03	SimpleJak	dez_: You seem out of control.
17:03	dez_	SimpleJak: im never under control
17:04	SimpleJak	That's oddly Buddhist.
17:04	dez_	SimpleJak: watch samsara (2001)
17:04	dez_	Great take on buddhism
17:04	SimpleJak	I've not yet seen that.
17:04	dez_	Im definetely not hysteric
17:05	dez_	I mocked Popper once and he decided to bust my balls for eternity
17:05	dez_	Talk about hysteria
17:06	dez_	SimpleJak: great photography
17:06	dez_	Popper: im not toxically masculine
17:06	dez_	Im healthy
17:06	SimpleJak	dez_: I find it non-useful to engage Popper.
17:06	SimpleJak	dez_: It looks interesting to me -- I'll give it a watch.
17:07	dez_	Has two (great) sex scenes
17:07	dez_	Its also about relationships
17:07	bad-bob	wow, why is it so scandalous to mention that jeff bezos owns the WP?
17:07	dez_	To trump it is
17:08	bad-bob	like, you have the chicago tribune falling over itself to say that bezos's newspaper interests have NOTHING to do with amazon
17:08	bad-bob	why? what's it to them?
17:08	SimpleJak	dez_: I wonder how much of this film is designed to explore the non-Buddhist's questions about Buddhism and sexuality.
17:08	bad-bob	do they think the richest guy on the planet needs their PR?
17:08	SimpleJak	bad-bob: Why would it be scandalous?
17:08	dez_	SimpleJak: it links both themes
17:08	SimpleJak	bad-bob: Are you referencing, in part, Trump's comments?
17:09	bad-bob	simpejak: I'm merely pointing out that it's received that way
17:09	SimpleJak	By whom?
17:09	dez_	Youll get it as im sure youre familiar with gautama's history
17:09	bad-bob	the chicago tribune for one
17:09	SimpleJak	Citations?
17:09	bad-bob	no
17:10	SimpleJak	Topic dropped, then.
17:10	bad-bob	I'm not your google secretary
17:10	bad-bob	are you calling me a liar?
17:10	SimpleJak	dez_: I am not aware of Gotama having sexual incidents post bodhi tree.
17:10	SimpleJak	bad-bob: You are responsible for the things you say.
17:11	SimpleJak	If you say that the Chicago Tribune said a thing, then you're responsible to provide a citation from the Chiago Tribune -- if you wish to discuss that topic further.
17:11	dez_	He didnt
17:11	bad-bob	I told you the source. the source is the chicago tribune.
17:11	dez_	But he did have a wife prior to it
17:11	bad-bob	no, I'm not responsible to give you a citation in APA format or whatever
17:11	u-ou	I like ponies
17:11	SimpleJak	bad-bob: Do you notice how you included "APA format"?
17:12	bad-bob	the chicago tribune.
17:12	SimpleJak	That was a strawman fallacy.
17:12	bad-bob	"or whatever"
17:12	laceless`	Chicago Manual of Style is a better format
17:12	u-ou	I've gone keyboard mad
17:12	SimpleJak	You did it because you subconsciously believe that your position needs enhancing.
17:12	u-ou	KEYBOARD MAD
17:12	bad-bob	it was in the chicago tribune. if you believe I'm a liar that's your problem, not mine
17:12	dez_	u-ou: not like popper likes pigeons
17:12	SimpleJak	dez_: Agreed @ wife before leaving for asceticism.
17:12	SimpleJak	bad-bob: Do you notice how you included the "liar" bit?
17:12	u-ou	dez_, I've gone mad....
17:12	SimpleJak	That was a strawman fallacy.
17:12	u-ou	KEYBOARD MAD, THAT IS!
17:13	SimpleJak	You did that because you subconsciously believe your position needs enhancing.
17:13	bad-bob	did you notice "if?
17:13	bad-bob	please learn what a strawman is
17:13	dez_	Samsara is about a monk that leaves the monastery for a love interest
17:13	SimpleJak	bad-bob: I have enqueued "learn what a strawman is" into our joint queue.
17:13	SimpleJak	Do you feel the current topic is resolved?
17:14	bad-bob	I feel horny
17:14	u-ou	can we just talk about mechanical keyboards
17:14	dez_	u-ou: bought one of those?
17:14	SimpleJak	bad-bob: Here's a more detailed explication:
17:14	u-ou	not yet
17:14	SimpleJak	1. The Chicago Tribune has done X.
17:14	SimpleJak	2. Citation?
17:14	SimpleJak	3. No
17:14	bad-bob	simplejak: piss off
17:14	SimpleJak	4. I found a Chicago Tribune article that seems to be talking about X. It doesn't seem to actually be X, though.
17:14	dez_	u-ou: are they made of wood?
17:14	SimpleJak	5. Not that article.
17:14	SimpleJak	bad-bob: I put you on ignore.
17:14	u-ou	some are
17:15	dez_	Arent they heavy?
17:15	SimpleJak	 /me empties joint queue
17:15	u-ou	yes
17:15	u-ou	some are
17:15	u-ou	I don't think the 40% keyboards are heavy
17:15	dez_	Counter intuitivr
17:15	SimpleJak	The POTUS* attacking journalist outlets is highly concerning.
17:15	dez_	To have a heavy keyboard
17:16	SimpleJak	POTUS will ultimately be indicted with several dozen felonies and remember by history as the greater traitor in American history.
17:16	SimpleJak	He is one of the largest purveyors of fake news. Him going after news outlets because they help educate the American people about his constant treason and submission to the international war criminal, Puny Putin, is anti-American.
17:18	SimpleJak	Also, the conglomeration of media outlets by large corporations is not compatible with democracy.
17:18	SimpleJak	That is a major issue for our society.
17:18	SimpleJak	Donald Trump doesn't get to participate in that conversation, as he is a traitor and purveyor of fake news.
17:19	SimpleJak	Donald Trump has precisely zero interest in accuracy in media.
17:19	SimpleJak	His goal is for his Tribe to own all the media and for them to lie and gaslight all humans on Earth so that we can worship him.
17:19	SimpleJak	He is an enemy of mankind.
17:22	u-ou	ow my back
17:23		+++ |werejag| has given op to Chex
17:30	dez_	Bracelet?
17:31	dez_	Which are you Popper ?
17:31	dez_	Confident or awkward mysogynist
17:33	SimpleJak	dez_: Have you heard some people allege Ted Nugent is a pedophile?
17:35	dez_	Ill let you know when it shows Popper
17:35	dez_	But today that shit you said in #trump was an example
17:35	dez_	About pheromones
17:36	dez_	SimpleJak: i did not know that
17:36	dez_	Wouldnt surprise me
17:36	dez_	That man is trash
17:36	SimpleJak	Why wouldn't it surprise you?
17:36	SimpleJak	I am concerned with the weaponization of pedophilia against our political opponents.
17:37	SimpleJak	I don't think that's congruent with Great Societies.
17:37	dez_	Im not weaponizing anything
17:37	SimpleJak	Do you have any evidence of him having pedophilia?
17:37	dez_	And im not sure which society you think is great
17:38	SimpleJak	If not, why would you say it "wouldn't surprise me"
17:38	dez_	I never said he was a paedophile
17:38	SimpleJak	dez_: I think societies which are scientific are great.
17:38	SimpleJak	"Wouldnt surprise me"
17:38	dez_	Because of his lack of character
17:38	SimpleJak	dez_: Are you familiar with Bayesian inference?
17:38	dez_	Oh god
17:38	SimpleJak	(It's the foundation of scientific epistemology)
17:39	SimpleJak	In Bayesian inference, where you have evidence, you largely go with your evidence. Where you do not have evidence, you go with your priors.
17:39	SimpleJak	If you do not have evidence of Ted Nugent being a pedophile, you go with the prior on incidence rate of pedophilia in men.
17:39	SimpleJak	Do you know what that is?
17:40	SimpleJak	It's something like 0.3%.
17:40	SimpleJak	So it's 300 to 1 Ted Nugent is not a pedophile, sans evidence.
17:40	SimpleJak	300 to 1 Ted Nugent is a pedophile*
17:40	SimpleJak	His character could be a type of evidence that would modify the posterior.
17:41	SimpleJak	You'd need a reasonable model in which you know how 'character' influences presence of pedophilia.
17:41	SimpleJak	You probably don't have that.
17:41	SimpleJak	And so you're demonstrating insufficient rigor to somebody you may not like.
17:41	SimpleJak	This is a weaponization of psychiatry in our society.
17:41	abum	0.3% is 3 in 1000
17:42	SimpleJak	Correct.
17:42	abum	333 to 1
17:42	SimpleJak	More correct.
17:42	SimpleJak	My claim was correct to one significant figure.
17:42	SimpleJak	In this case ~10% off.
17:43	AndroidUS
17:45	Chex	lulz
17:45	Chex	8ball sez YES!
 Laura Ingraham waving goodbye to her advertisers Poor girl, she did nazi see this coming https://twitter.com/DrainTheTrumps/status/979754346803093504/photo/1

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