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  1. --- Log opened Fri Jul 16 00:55:56 2010
  2. 00:55 -!- Irssi: Starting query in Sporks with lstarnes
  3. 00:55 <lstarnes> why do you need to know why X was glined?
  4. 00:56 <alkali> because
  5. 00:56 <alkali> he's an acquaintance of mine
  6. 00:56 <alkali> but still
  7. 00:56 <alkali> the 'pasting of personal' information
  8. 00:56 <lstarnes> if he wants to know, he knows how to contact us and he can tell you about it
  9. 00:56 <lstarnes> as for the personal info, it was being spread on other networks
  10. 00:57 <alkali> well i mean
  11. 00:57 <alkali> i find it curious
  12. 00:57 <lstarnes> what he was saying could have damaged sporksnet's reputation
  13. 00:57 <alkali> how gewt pastes datechman's address in #sporks
  14. 00:57 <alkali> and gewt still has +o and everything
  15. 00:57 <lstarnes> I'll make sure that I and the other staff review that
  16. 00:57 <alkali> that means
  17. 00:58 <alkali> you are going to close this window and do nothing, right?
  18. 00:58 <lstarnes> you have my word that I will not
  19. 00:58 <alkali> finally someone is doing something
  20. 00:58 <alkali> every time i ask AnMaster, it's always a 'sophisticated and creative' method of saying "LOL I DONT KNOW"
  21. 00:58 <alkali> and usually when i speak up, i get glined
  22. 00:58 <alkali> interesting to see it go differently
  23. 00:58 <alkali> thanks, lstarnes
  24. 00:58 <lstarnes> go to rwg or Elizabeth
  25. 00:59 <alkali> about luke's issue?
  26. 00:59 <lstarnes> no, I mean if AnMaster is the only other netadmin around
  27. 00:59 <alkali> yeah, gotcha
  28. 00:59 <lstarnes> if you're having issues with him, they're the two highest ops
  29. 01:00 <alkali> i guess i'll just tell him to go ahead and get ahold of you (him, luke)
  30. 01:00 <alkali> do you guys still have a server in chicago?
  31. 01:00 <lstarnes> I'm not sure exactly where the servers are located
  32. 01:01 <alkali> hmm interesting
  33. 01:01 <alkali> i'll talk to elizabeth then
  34. 01:01 <alkali> thanks for.. something.
  35. 01:01 <lstarnes> I'm currently alerting the staff about the issue with datechman/gewt
  36. 01:02 <alkali> thanks
  37. 01:02 <alkali> i suppose if they do anything 'necessary?'
  38. 01:02 <alkali> i'll notice via the channel
  39. 01:02 <lstarnes> I'll personally make sure that it gets dealt with and I'll let you know about the outcome
  40. 01:02 <alkali> thanks
  41. 01:03 <alkali> oh also
  42. 01:03 <alkali> (01:02:49 AM) Luke Chandler: Ask lstarnes to add me on MSN
  43. 01:03 <lstarnes> in the meantime, don't bother us about it or it may hamper our investigation
  44. 01:03 <alkali> just FYI
  45. 01:03 <lstarnes> if we need to know something, we'll ask
  46. 01:03 <alkali> like i said
  47. 01:03 <alkali> (01:02:49 AM) Luke Chandler: Ask lstarnes to add me on MSN
  48. 01:03 <alkali> (01:03:15 AM) Luke Chandler: lukeintosh@live.com
  49. 01:03 <lstarnes> I saw.
  50. 01:03 <alkali> at least you can respect his asking of so, seeing as you want him to ask why he was banned, and not I
  51. 01:03 <alkali> but obviously no one has any fucking idea
  52. 01:04 <alkali> no real offense meant there
  53. 01:04 <lstarnes> I'll consider it tomorrow
  54. 01:04 <lstarnes> I'm supposed to be sleeping right now
  55. 01:04 <alkali> yeah
  56. 01:04 <alkali> great
  57. 01:06 <lstarnes> can you give me the exact time and date when gewt posted that info to #sporks?
  58. 01:06 <lstarnes> we need to verify some logs
  59. 01:07 <alkali> uh
  60. 01:07 <alkali> sure
  61. 01:08 <alkali> 21:03 <@gewt> X: 243 Bleu Harbor Court, Perrysburg, Ohio
  62. 01:08 <alkali> 21:03 <@datechman> gewt: dont push it
  63. 01:08 <alkali> 21:03 <@gewt> Blue*
  64. 01:08 <alkali> think it was yesterday
  65. 01:08 <lstarnes> which timezone?
  66. 01:08 <alkali> that is US CST
  67. 01:08 <alkali> so
  68. 01:08 <alkali> 9:03 PM
  69. 01:08 <lstarnes> which would be 10:03 where I am
  70. 01:09 <alkali> yeah
  71. 01:09 <alkali> think so
  72. 01:09 <alkali> it would be
  73. 01:09 <alkali> 22:03
  74. 01:09 <alkali> so yes
  75. 01:09 <lstarnes> thanks
  76. 01:09 <alkali> anything else you need from me?
  77. 01:10 <lstarnes> I can't think of anything
  78. 01:10 <alkali> cool
  79. 01:10 <alkali> let me know
  80. 01:10 <alkali> i'll talk to elizabeth about luke's thing
  81. 01:10 <lstarnes> btw, could you please try to avoid saying stuff about searching logs in #sporks?  We don't need people commenting about what staff are doing in a private conversation
  82. 01:10 <lstarnes> Elizabeth is the one who set the gline, so she would know more about it
  83. 01:11 <alkali> yeah, 'my bad'
  84. 01:11 <alkali> i'll talk to elizabeth if you'd like
  85. 01:11 <alkali> since she seems to be the one that knows/does things [anything]
  86. 01:12 <lstarnes> I think I've found the matching lines in my logs
  87. 01:13 <lstarnes> is that address datechman's actual address?
  88. 01:14 <alkali> Yes, it is.
  89. 01:18 <lstarnes> actually, it appears that he was demoted from normal-user status in #sporks after the incident
  90. 01:18 <alkali> yes he was
  91. 01:18 <alkali> and as always, i'm sure he bitched and got it back
  92. 01:18 <alkali> because you guys tend to give him anything he wants
  93. 01:18 <lstarnes> no, he didn't
  94. 01:18 <alkali> why is he +o as of now?
  95. 01:19 <lstarnes> because someone must've +o'd everyone who wasn't opped
  96. 01:19 <alkali> sure.
  97. 01:19 <lstarnes> I am positive about that
  98. 01:19 <alkali> well
  99. 01:20 <alkali> remember all of those times he took over the channel/network?
  100. 01:20 <alkali> and i was /gline'd at least three times, and there he resides.
  101. 01:20 <alkali> i find it interesting how this network operates.
  102. 01:20 <lstarnes> are you saying that we give gewt special treatment of some sort?
  103. 01:20 <alkali> i'd damn sure like to see you come up with some bullshit reason that you don't
  104. 01:21 <lstarnes> he was fired as staff for what he did
  105. 01:22 <alkali> yeah sure
  106. 01:22 <alkali> but he's done it 9080274098723489270489 times
  107. 01:22 <alkali> and i got no warnings
  108. 01:22 <alkali> and a gline with the message of "LOLS"
  109. 01:22 <lstarnes> who set that one?
  110. 01:22 <alkali> when i kicked an oper from #sporks for join flooding because it was annoying the fuck out of me
  111. 01:22 <alkali> so yes
  112. 01:22 <alkali> you guys do give him special treatment
  113. 01:22 <alkali> i had a three hour PM with Elizabeth about it
  114. 01:23 <lstarnes> I've brought it to the attention of other staff
  115. 01:23 <lstarnes> Elizabeth and I are considering glining him
  116. 01:23 <alkali> init told me, yes
  117. 01:23 <alkali> Elizabeth, whatever
  118. 01:23 <alkali> but it hasn't happened yet
  119. 01:23 <alkali> 01:23 <lstarnes> I've brought it to the attention of other staff
  120. 01:24 <alkali> and that seems to be a way of
  121. 01:24 <alkali> saying something like "stop talking"
  122. 01:24 <lstarnes> I'm not saying that
  123. 01:24 <alkali> reading between the lines here
  124. 01:25 <alkali> and saying things like "leave us alone now so we can investigate"
  125. 01:25 <alkali> is like saying "fuck you"
  126. 01:25 <alkali> and since none of the opers here seem to know what the others are doing
  127. 01:25 <alkali> i'd be surprised to see anything happen, luke being unbanned before his six months, cory being banned, anything
  128. 01:25 <alkali> but the only thing i hypothesize is myself being glined again for 'badmouthing the network on the network'
  129. 01:27 <alkali> and luke doesn't even get a chance to defend himself or even learn of his ban, and he's gone for six months
  130. 01:27 <alkali> i'm honestly surprised i'm still here for even critisizing the way the opers run the network
  131. 01:27 <alkali> last time i did that, i got banned
  132. 01:27 <alkali> oh yeah
  133. 01:27 <alkali> message was
  134. 01:27 <alkali> "HORRAY"
  135. 01:27 <lstarnes> do you know who set that one?
  136. sam@eos:~$ screen -r irc
  137. [detached]
  138. sam@eos:~$ clear | cat /home/sam/irclogs/Sporks/lstarnes.log
  139. --- Log opened Fri Jul 16 00:55:56 2010
  140. 00:55 -!- Irssi: Starting query in Sporks with lstarnes
  141. 00:55 <lstarnes> why do you need to know why X was glined?
  142. 00:56 <alkali> because
  143. 00:56 <alkali> he's an acquaintance of mine
  144. 00:56 <alkali> but still
  145. 00:56 <alkali> the 'pasting of personal' information
  146. 00:56 <lstarnes> if he wants to know, he knows how to contact us and he can tell you about it
  147. 00:56 <lstarnes> as for the personal info, it was being spread on other networks
  148. 00:57 <alkali> well i mean
  149. 00:57 <alkali> i find it curious
  150. 00:57 <lstarnes> what he was saying could have damaged sporksnet's reputation
  151. 00:57 <alkali> how gewt pastes datechman's address in #sporks
  152. 00:57 <alkali> and gewt still has +o and everything
  153. 00:57 <lstarnes> I'll make sure that I and the other staff review that
  154. 00:57 <alkali> that means
  155. 00:58 <alkali> you are going to close this window and do nothing, right?
  156. 00:58 <lstarnes> you have my word that I will not
  157. 00:58 <alkali> finally someone is doing something
  158. 00:58 <alkali> every time i ask AnMaster, it's always a 'sophisticated and creative' method of saying "LOL I DONT KNOW"
  159. 00:58 <alkali> and usually when i speak up, i get glined
  160. 00:58 <alkali> interesting to see it go differently
  161. 00:58 <alkali> thanks, lstarnes
  162. 00:58 <lstarnes> go to rwg or Elizabeth
  163. 00:59 <alkali> about luke's issue?
  164. 00:59 <lstarnes> no, I mean if AnMaster is the only other netadmin around
  165. 00:59 <alkali> yeah, gotcha
  166. 00:59 <lstarnes> if you're having issues with him, they're the two highest ops
  167. 01:00 <alkali> i guess i'll just tell him to go ahead and get ahold of you (him, luke)
  168. 01:00 <alkali> do you guys still have a server in chicago?
  169. 01:00 <lstarnes> I'm not sure exactly where the servers are located
  170. 01:01 <alkali> hmm interesting
  171. 01:01 <alkali> i'll talk to elizabeth then
  172. 01:01 <alkali> thanks for.. something.
  173. 01:01 <lstarnes> I'm currently alerting the staff about the issue with datechman/gewt
  174. 01:02 <alkali> thanks
  175. 01:02 <alkali> i suppose if they do anything 'necessary?'
  176. 01:02 <alkali> i'll notice via the channel
  177. 01:02 <lstarnes> I'll personally make sure that it gets dealt with and I'll let you know about the outcome
  178. 01:02 <alkali> thanks
  179. 01:03 <alkali> oh also
  180. 01:03 <alkali> (01:02:49 AM) Luke Chandler: Ask lstarnes to add me on MSN
  181. 01:03 <lstarnes> in the meantime, don't bother us about it or it may hamper our investigation
  182. 01:03 <alkali> just FYI
  183. 01:03 <lstarnes> if we need to know something, we'll ask
  184. 01:03 <alkali> like i said
  185. 01:03 <alkali> (01:02:49 AM) Luke Chandler: Ask lstarnes to add me on MSN
  186. 01:03 <alkali> (01:03:15 AM) Luke Chandler: lukeintosh@live.com
  187. 01:03 <lstarnes> I saw.
  188. 01:03 <alkali> at least you can respect his asking of so, seeing as you want him to ask why he was banned, and not I
  189. 01:03 <alkali> but obviously no one has any fucking idea
  190. 01:04 <alkali> no real offense meant there
  191. 01:04 <lstarnes> I'll consider it tomorrow
  192. 01:04 <lstarnes> I'm supposed to be sleeping right now
  193. 01:04 <alkali> yeah
  194. 01:04 <alkali> great
  195. 01:06 <lstarnes> can you give me the exact time and date when gewt posted that info to #sporks?
  196. 01:06 <lstarnes> we need to verify some logs
  197. 01:07 <alkali> uh
  198. 01:07 <alkali> sure
  199. 01:08 <alkali> 21:03 <@gewt> X: 243 Bleu Harbor Court, Perrysburg, Ohio
  200. 01:08 <alkali> 21:03 <@datechman> gewt: dont push it
  201. 01:08 <alkali> 21:03 <@gewt> Blue*
  202. 01:08 <alkali> think it was yesterday
  203. 01:08 <lstarnes> which timezone?
  204. 01:08 <alkali> that is US CST
  205. 01:08 <alkali> so
  206. 01:08 <alkali> 9:03 PM
  207. 01:08 <lstarnes> which would be 10:03 where I am
  208. 01:09 <alkali> yeah
  209. 01:09 <alkali> think so
  210. 01:09 <alkali> it would be
  211. 01:09 <alkali> 22:03
  212. 01:09 <alkali> so yes
  213. 01:09 <lstarnes> thanks
  214. 01:09 <alkali> anything else you need from me?
  215. 01:10 <lstarnes> I can't think of anything
  216. 01:10 <alkali> cool
  217. 01:10 <alkali> let me know
  218. 01:10 <alkali> i'll talk to elizabeth about luke's thing
  219. 01:10 <lstarnes> btw, could you please try to avoid saying stuff about searching logs in #sporks?  We don't need people commenting about what staff are doing in a private conversation
  220. 01:10 <lstarnes> Elizabeth is the one who set the gline, so she would know more about it
  221. 01:11 <alkali> yeah, 'my bad'
  222. 01:11 <alkali> i'll talk to elizabeth if you'd like
  223. 01:11 <alkali> since she seems to be the one that knows/does things [anything]
  224. 01:12 <lstarnes> I think I've found the matching lines in my logs
  225. 01:13 <lstarnes> is that address datechman's actual address?
  226. 01:14 <alkali> Yes, it is.
  227. 01:18 <lstarnes> actually, it appears that he was demoted from normal-user status in #sporks after the incident
  228. 01:18 <alkali> yes he was
  229. 01:18 <alkali> and as always, i'm sure he bitched and got it back
  230. 01:18 <alkali> because you guys tend to give him anything he wants
  231. 01:18 <lstarnes> no, he didn't
  232. 01:18 <alkali> why is he +o as of now?
  233. 01:19 <lstarnes> because someone must've +o'd everyone who wasn't opped
  234. 01:19 <alkali> sure.
  235. 01:19 <lstarnes> I am positive about that
  236. 01:19 <alkali> well
  237. 01:20 <alkali> remember all of those times he took over the channel/network?
  238. 01:20 <alkali> and i was /gline'd at least three times, and there he resides.
  239. 01:20 <alkali> i find it interesting how this network operates.
  240. 01:20 <lstarnes> are you saying that we give gewt special treatment of some sort?
  241. 01:20 <alkali> i'd damn sure like to see you come up with some bullshit reason that you don't
  242. 01:21 <lstarnes> he was fired as staff for what he did
  243. 01:22 <alkali> yeah sure
  244. 01:22 <alkali> but he's done it 9080274098723489270489 times
  245. 01:22 <alkali> and i got no warnings
  246. 01:22 <alkali> and a gline with the message of "LOLS"
  247. 01:22 <lstarnes> who set that one?
  248. 01:22 <alkali> when i kicked an oper from #sporks for join flooding because it was annoying the fuck out of me
  249. 01:22 <alkali> so yes
  250. 01:22 <alkali> you guys do give him special treatment
  251. 01:22 <alkali> i had a three hour PM with Elizabeth about it
  252. 01:23 <lstarnes> I've brought it to the attention of other staff
  253. 01:23 <lstarnes> Elizabeth and I are considering glining him
  254. 01:23 <alkali> init told me, yes
  255. 01:23 <alkali> Elizabeth, whatever
  256. 01:23 <alkali> but it hasn't happened yet
  257. 01:23 <alkali> 01:23 <lstarnes> I've brought it to the attention of other staff
  258. 01:24 <alkali> and that seems to be a way of
  259. 01:24 <alkali> saying something like "stop talking"
  260. 01:24 <lstarnes> I'm not saying that
  261. 01:24 <alkali> reading between the lines here
  262. 01:25 <alkali> and saying things like "leave us alone now so we can investigate"
  263. 01:25 <alkali> is like saying "fuck you"
  264. 01:25 <alkali> and since none of the opers here seem to know what the others are doing
  265. 01:25 <alkali> i'd be surprised to see anything happen, luke being unbanned before his six months, cory being banned, anything
  266. 01:25 <alkali> but the only thing i hypothesize is myself being glined again for 'badmouthing the network on the network'
  267. 01:27 <alkali> and luke doesn't even get a chance to defend himself or even learn of his ban, and he's gone for six months
  268. 01:27 <alkali> i'm honestly surprised i'm still here for even critisizing the way the opers run the network
  269. 01:27 <alkali> last time i did that, i got banned
  270. 01:27 <alkali> oh yeah
  271. 01:27 <alkali> message was
  272. 01:27 <alkali> "HORRAY"
  273. 01:27 <lstarnes> do you know who set that one?
  274. 01:27 <alkali> nope
  275. 01:27 <alkali> don't care really
  276. 01:27 <alkali> i got rwg to get rid of it
  277. 01:28 <lstarnes> I'll find out and speak to whoever set it
  278. 01:28 <alkali> interesting
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