Unethical factory farming v hunting; fieryUSA

fieryUSA
i'm FOR the death penalty, for douchebag hunters like that.
Monfd
Hunting is less evil than factory farming.
Monfd
Therefore, if you eat meat, you're less ethical than hunters.
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fieryUSA
bullshit.  until humans evolve out of eating meat, i can accept factory farming, and hunting for food.  there is at least an end result based on necessity.  there is NO reason to kill hibernating bears...which isn't even 'hunting'.
fieryUSA
it's just bloodlust
Monfd
Saying "bullshit" isn't valid.
Monfd
It's a meaningless idiom. Now, let me look at your content.
Monfd
fieryUSA: Humans invent technology that change themselves and their landscape. Humans have changed their environment faster than any organism in the history of Earth.
Monfd
What does this mean? It means that strategies that worked for us in the past no longer necessarily work for us in the present, with 7.7 billion people living in urbanized civilization.
Monfd
Humans ate meat in the past, and it was useful for our species. However, eating meat is no longer useful for our species -- it's harmful.
12:31 Monfd
You mention necessity. Eating meat is the opposite of a necessity, today, actually -- it's a harmful luxury.
12:32 Monfd
The eating of meat at the modern large scale requires massive water and land usage is that is unsustainable for our global population.
Monfd
This is not my opinion -- it's scientific consensus.
Monfd
The UN has published several documents to this effect.
Monfd
As well as various water organizations across the planet.
Monfd
Also, climate change is becoming an existential threat to the human species.
Monfd
Factory farming is the primary contributor to climate change, ahead of transportation (cars, boats, aircraft). The practice of eating meat -- useful in our past -- is now an existential threat to our continued existence.
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Monfd
Next, humans do not require meat to live healthy lives. In fact vegetarian diets are MORE healthy.
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Monfd
I haven't even yet mentioned ethics.
Monfd
Technology changes ethics dramatically.
Monfd
Our ancestors probably did not think robustly about the ethics of eating animals -- it's what omnivores just do. This isn't good enough for us.
Monfd
Scientific research of animals indicates that it is probably quite unethical to eat anything with a face.
Monfd
So, fieryUSA, I hope that you see that when you advocate meat eating, in the present era, you're actually threatening human civilization.
12:36 Monfd
As well as advocating a very unethical, and less healthy practice.
Thor_dk
I'm not sure people will ever stop eating meat... but I'm hopeful when it comes to growing meat from cell cultures.
Monfd
This is why factory farming is much, much, much less ethical than hunting.
Monfd
Including killing hibernating bears.