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  1. [14:40:11] Rei: Holy shit tux, can you be any further up AW's ass?
  2. [14:40:54] Aurora Wright: it seems like I hurt your ego
  3. [14:41:06] Rei: >And of course it's easy to say that when you have ca. 160 commits less than ARN.
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  5. this right here made your argument completely invalid
  6. [14:41:14] MassExplosion213: How?
  7. [14:41:18] Rei: [14:40] Aurora Wright:
  8.  
  9. <<< it seems like I hurt your egoyou wish lmao
  10. [14:41:32] MassExplosion213: That 160 commits added features that are USEFUL?
  11. [14:41:43] Aurora Wright: especially when a X.0 release is nothing but small code refactor
  12. [14:41:45] Rei: [14:41] MassExplosion213:
  13.  
  14. <<< How?litearlly AW commits every few edits.. most of which are vague and or 'bugfix'
  15. [14:41:58] Rei: like i cant find shit if i want
  16. [14:42:12] TuxSH: >And of course it's easy to say that when you have ca. 160 commits less than ARN.
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  18. this right here made your argument completely invalidMy point was about active development
  19. [14:42:43] MassExplosion213: Rei: Fucking deal with it. Aurora does things her way, you do it yours. If you can do it better, by all means, do it.
  20. [14:42:55] Rei: im just as active tho.. cakes is just as active.. we just do big commits
  21. [14:43:10] Rei: Rei: Fucking deal with it. Aurora does things her way, you do it yours. If you can do it better, by all means, do it.M A D
  22. [14:43:13] TuxSH: @Rei
  23. [14:43:13] TuxSH: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/42/22/ef/4222efd2cc3a46bbcf7543d21435ee4c.jpg
  24. [14:43:27] Rei: epik x3
  25. [14:44:07] MassExplosion213: Rei: I'm just pissed that you keep bashing a dev who has made something amazing over "too many commits" or whatever other shitty reasons you complain about it.
  26. [14:44:29] Rei: im not bashing him lol
  27. [14:44:31] Aurora Wright: it was him who started the whole "bloat" crap
  28. [14:44:36] Aurora Wright: HER dammit
  29. [14:44:44] Rei: kek oops
  30. [14:44:55] MassExplosion213: Rei, seriously, stop.
  31. [14:44:55] MassExplosion213: I'm not joking.
  32. [14:44:58] Aurora Wright: transphobia doesn't make your arguments better
  33. [14:45:10] Rei: tux was shit posting so i wanted to :(
  34. [14:46:03] Aurora Wright: you started this whole "bloat" crap
  35. [14:46:05] Aurora Wright: on your thread
  36. [14:46:17] Aurora Wright: I thought you didn't do it on purpose, but you keep doing it
  37. [14:46:36] MassExplosion213: Rei: You're just as bad as SALT at this point. Looking down at people saying "this code is bad" and "I can do it better", but contributing next to nothing.
  38. [14:46:39] TuxSH: tux was shit posting so i wanted to :(I was only answering your comment
  39. [14:46:49] Rei: wew, i said that once a long time ago.. im not trying to make it a meme
  40. [14:46:55] Rei: thats just how people feel
  41. [14:47:14] Aurora Wright: sure, you said arn is the new rx and now people go around asying it
  42. [14:47:21] Aurora Wright: even putting it in signatures
  43. [14:47:32] MassExplosion213: Rei - Today 7:46 AM
  44. > thats just how people feel
  45. No, that's just the way a dev can convince people.
  46. [14:47:38] Aurora Wright: meanwhile I said "no cfw wars" in the arn op
  47. [14:47:51] Rei: yea right, i wish i had that much influence over people
  48. [14:48:10] Aurora Wright: you have over your users
  49. [14:48:25] MassExplosion213: Hmm..let's see..who started the whole ARN bashing thing? Oh yea, it was you.
  50. [14:48:34] Rei: nice meme
  51. [14:49:13] MassExplosion213: Yea. You say that because you know I'm right.
  52. [14:49:27] Rei: hahaha i love that logic
  53. [14:50:14] MassExplosion213: What, that you've dropped to insults? Yea, my logic makes a hell of a lot of sense.
  54. [14:50:17] Aurora Wright: mass that's a logical fallacy, but still it was him who started the crap
  55. [14:50:35] MassExplosion213: Exactly.
  56. [14:51:00] Rei: you guys are silly
  57. [14:51:20] Aurora Wright: at least I don't go around bashing other devs
  58. [14:51:26] MassExplosion213: ^^
  59. [14:51:31] Aurora Wright: by my definition that's silly
  60. [14:51:32] Rei: yea you send others to do it
  61. [14:51:40] Aurora Wright: lol I send others
  62. [14:51:50] MassExplosion213: Rei: No she doesn't. Trust me.
  63. [14:52:00] MassExplosion213: You're the only one still doing this shit.
  64. [14:52:00] Rei: ok i totally trust you
  65. [14:52:17] Rei: mass is butt exploded lol
  66. [14:53:14] Gabe: I missed the return-to-middle-school memo, apparently
  67. [14:53:32] Rei: yea, idk how that happened im just going with it
  68. [14:53:44] MassExplosion213: You know, I find this funny. You have hit the stage where you're ego is so inflated that you look down on everyone else. When we were trying to get the keysector the first time, you kept bragging about having it, but when asked for it, you told us to dump it ourselves. Sounds like something SALT would do...
  69. [14:53:59] Aurora Wright: Gabe, see here: https://www.reddit.com/r/3dshacks/comments/4fq6xw/reinand_40_released/d2bd0bu
  70. [14:54:04] Aurora Wright: I would never do that
  71. [14:54:30] Rei: [14:53] MassExplosion213:
  72.  
  73. <<< You know, I find this funny. You have hit the stage where you're ego is so inflated that you look down on everyone else. When we were trying to get the keysector the first time, you kept bragging about having it, but when asked for it, you told us to dump it ourselves. Sounds like something SALT would do...delusions arent good either, mass... maybe i should join SALT :p
  74. [14:54:53] MassExplosion213: What delusions? Please, tell me.
  75. [14:55:17] Rei: ive never bragged about anything.. at most i spew memes
  76. [14:55:45] Gabe: All I saw there were complains, no clear examples. I'm sure Aurora wouldn't mind some critique on design, but at least offer that much before whining
  77. [14:56:15] MassExplosion213: Well, constantly mentioning the fact that you have it when we're talking about trying to get it? That's bragging.
  78. [14:56:18] Rei: i do try to offer advise but AW can be stubborn
  79. [14:56:19] Aurora Wright: yeah but he did it in public
  80. [14:56:23] Gabe: Just complaining about design ephemerally isn't enough
  81. [14:56:48] Aurora Wright: and he keeps fueling the "bloated" crap people go spewing around
  82. [14:56:51] MassExplosion213: Rei: Actually give ways it can be fixed instead of constant complaining.
  83. [14:56:52] Rei: what should i do then Gaben :p
  84. [14:57:03] Gabe: I don't know. I'm not your dad
  85. [14:57:09] Gabe: I assume you have free will
  86. [14:57:12] Rei: lol
  87. [14:57:24] Rei: Rei: Actually give ways it can be fixed instead of constant complaining.I have
  88. [14:57:36] Rei: do i really need to waste my time to fork and fix it?
  89. [14:57:43] Aurora Wright: you said I can remove conditionals without telling me how
  90. [14:58:05] Rei: [14:57] Aurora Wright:
  91.  
  92. <<< you said I can remove conditionals without telling me howyou're a programmer .. x3
  93. [14:58:14] MassExplosion213: Exactly. And when asked how, you said you had no clue.
  94. [14:58:18] Gabe: No, but if you have issues, at least talk about general architectural alternatives, or design patterns that could be used to clear things up, etc.
  95. [14:58:18] TuxSH: (:|
  96. [14:59:04] Rei: thats what all of yesterday we tried talking about
  97. [14:59:22] Aurora Wright: and I told you I can't do it because I read firm from ctrnand
  98. [14:59:23] MassExplosion213: You gave *no* alternatives whatsoever.
  99. [14:59:29] Aurora Wright: and making my own firm is awkward
  100. [14:59:31] Gabe: I will admit I wasn't around most of the day yesterday, so I can't comment on that
  101. [14:59:49] Aurora Wright: he said I should make my own firm
  102. [14:59:52] Aurora Wright: instead of patching it
  103. [14:59:56] Gabe: Kek
  104. [15:00:01] MassExplosion213: His "way" to avoid all the firm patches? Make your own firm
  105. [15:00:17] Rei: i just cant sit around and watch people try to attack me with logical fallacies, so i called tux out on his BS
  106. [15:00:22] Rei: then this happened x3
  107. [15:00:31] Aurora Wright: where's the fallacy?
  108. [15:00:36] Aurora Wright: tell me
  109. [15:00:37] TuxSH: you're the one spewing bullshit Rei
  110. [15:00:48] MassExplosion213: With that logic, we could find every patch Rei has and say that it's bloat and should be fixed by writing your own firm.
  111. [15:00:53] Rei: his biggest fallacy is "more commits means its active"
  112. [15:01:13] Aurora Wright: I am active, I spend most of my day on this
  113. [15:01:13] Aurora Wright: so?
  114. [15:01:17] MassExplosion213: It's still more active though.
  115. [15:01:22] Gabe: I agree that's not necessarily true, but it does give the appearance of such
  116. [15:01:30] Rei: yea
  117. [15:01:36] MassExplosion213: Regardless as to if that particular statement is true.
  118. [15:01:43] TuxSH: I edit and removed the fallacy anyways
  119. [15:02:31] Rei: im just saying, I 100% support cakes as an alternative CFW.. so dont imply im just shilling my own shit
  120. [15:02:39] MassExplosion213: Rei: What was that about useless commits..?
  121.  
  122. https://github.com/Reisyukaku/ReiNand/commit/9989554994e5b8aa8ec577782827b65110130ed0
  123. [15:02:40] Rei: i love mid-kid's structure
  124. [15:02:42] TuxSH: And well
  125. [15:02:51] Rei: i hate rx
  126. [15:02:51] TuxSH: no commit for nearly a month rei
  127. [15:03:02] TuxSH: not that the commit that followed were big too
  128. [15:03:03] Rei: i work guy
  129. [15:03:22 | Supprimé (15:03:27)] MassExplosion213: Ce message a été supprimé
  130. [15:03:37] MassExplosion213: Nevermind. School doesn't count as work. xD
  131. [15:04:20] Gabe: I fail to see why we are still arguing back and forth. If Aurora can justify her implementation decisions and trace it to some architectural reason, so what? Same thing goes the other way. I already told Aurora some more abstraction wouldn't hurt to handle the nested conditionals, but I didn't take a look at the conditionals in detail to check if something like the strategy pattern would work, or state, etc.
  132. [15:05:05] Rei: i even considered working with aurora at one point but ehh.. not sure that would work out anyways.. i'm better working by myself. although mid-kid and bilis are like minded to me so i'd probably have no problems with them
  133. [15:05:28] MassExplosion213: Rei: I just posted two comments on your commits. I recommend reverting them. Blank commits.
  134. [15:05:36] Gabe: Expect bilis has all but disappeared
  135. [15:05:59] Rei: [15:04] Gabe:
  136.  
  137. <<< I already told Aurora some more abstraction wouldn't hurt to handle the nested conditionalsthis is litearlly what ive been trying to say for months lol.. but im bad with words
  138. [15:06:31] Aurora Wright: you said I had to make my own firm
  139. [15:07:10] Rei: that was partially a joke but i digress.. i would tell you how i would do it but i dont want you stealing my next plan ;p
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