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- Lesta Nediam LNC2016-09-30 0105 +Phi D (Ducks on the River)
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Mint1JewWo&google_comment_id=z12ce14arlnnsjn0x22myzojyv20vh3av04
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- +Phi D (Ducks on the River) __ Was that for me? If so - you continue to miss the point:
- FORGET ABOUT THE EARTH BEING FLAT OR A BALL. *THE CLAIM ITSELF IS IRRELEVANT*.
- What matters - all that matters - is HOW the claim is presented.
- It is not about a claim "having a point". It is not about a "lie" having a point. *You have simply been trained from birth to believe that a lie must have a point*. That it must serve some "greater reason".
- I.e., that you lied about the woman being attractive to "seem like a stud" - you have *given a reason* (one that "makes sense" to you).
- If someone else heard your lie - they could reason that way.
- But when lies are told *without* such a reason - you can be left confused. You are at risk of thinking: _"I can think of no good reason for the lie *therefore the person saying it's a lie is just paranoid*". (And they may well be paranoid - but not necessarily.)
- It does not follow that a lie must have a "greater reason". It does not follow that if a lie *does* have a "greater reason" that you can ever know what it was.
- There is a very good utilitarian reason to lie *without* any such "greater reason". Genuinely intelligent people can lie as a strategy that goes beyond "looking like a stud".
- What you don't seem to realise is that a lie can *also* serve the simple purpose of making you more susceptible to more lies presented in the same way.
- If you hit a dog every time it jumps up on a couch what can you expect the outcome to be? The dog will stop jumping up on the couch.
- In the same way - if you want people to accept a lie as truth they need to be trained to accept truth in the same form as a lie.
- Lies told as a strategy in this way need *repetition* of the same form (withholding sufficient proof). It requires *many* truths and facts and realities being presented in the same way that a lie would need to be presented in order to train the population.
- Don't forget that each generation is followed by another generation and so this is an unending process. Each generation needs to be trained to accept truth in this form (and thus when desired or required - lies in this form).
- You are told a hundred true things every day - do people ever wonder what the point of that is? No they don't. At best they might shrug and say "who cares about that". Yet when a single claim is questioned people like you will cry: _"What is the point of the lie?!"_
- I am telling you the point of doing this *in a lie system* is to train the audience (the population) - that means you - to accept lies when they are presented as truth. *It requires a lot of repetition*. By the time each person is an adult they have heard a hundred thousand "facts or stories" in this form (of lacking "sufficient proof").
- If you are told 999 truthful things in the same form that a lie would need to take then you are not going to be inclined to notice when a lie is told.
- If you do - you then risk doubting the 999 truthful things and that could send you over the edge of insanity. Don't "conspiracy theorists" seem insane to you? Don't you find them crying "everything is a hoax!"? Do you think it is by accident that is the outcome?!
- It is not about the Earth being flat or a ball. The fact it can even be "debated" (in a "serious" way by some) *should illustrate that what I am describing is the case*.
- It's only possible to doubt the shape of the Earth *BECAUSE* truth is being presented in the same form a lie would need to take.
- It is therefore possible to doubt just about ANYTHING that comes from the lie system (lie system events and claims).
- The population either believes it all (placing their trust in a particular lie system "expert") - or is at risk of rejecting it all (becoming a "conspiracy theorist" and becoming unhinged due to irrational beliefs [a consequence of flipping/reversing everything because it seems like it is now a lie]).
- How often do you hear a conspiracy theorist say "to know the truth - reverse what scientists and the nightly news says!" That's because they have lost *trust* in the story tellers and find themselves filled with "beliefs" that lack sufficient proof. ANYTHING COULD BE FALSE - even that which isn't!
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- Understand the points I am making before you write any more to me. (Otherwise you will just get a repetition of what has already been written.)
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- +Phi D (Ducks on the River) __ You should not construe from what I wrote that we are intentionally divided. Though we are - that is not what I am on this thread saying to you.
- I am pointing out that events and claims are being presented to us in the same form a lie would need to take.
- +cabadejo has been echoing this same sentiment. *The debate about "flat" vs" round" can be settled conclusively*. Just show a photo that isn't a composite and doesn't look like cheap CGI (have you seen that alleged "Moon" passing the Earth?!)
- At all times the door to fantasy remains open.
- The only point I am making to you is that truth is being presented in the same form a lie would need to take. *That is how you get a population to accept a lie as the truth*.
- I am not convinced you understand this. Please try to understand this. The proof of what I am saying is *all around you*. Just lift your eyes up and away from the planned dichotomies taking place (e.g., "flat vs round").
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