16 Lesta Nediam LNC2016-03-05 1515 +Joe Elmore

Lesta Nediam LNC2016-03-05 1515 +Joe Elmore
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+Joe Elmore __ *Um, what the f_kc?* This is simple stuff. First of all - it is important to understand that I am not the one making a claim. *I am rejecting a claim.* The claim is that there is a real and manned "ISS". *Pay attention:* The only thing that necessarily proves that claim (i.e., that there is a permanent micro/zero-gravity environment - the so-called "sufficient proof") is to see *sustained duration genuine micro/zero-gravity that upon scrutiny remains free from glaring glitches, clever cuts, sneaky edits and misdirecting pans.*




You have never seen such footage (or it would be impossible to rationally doubt the "ISS"). The absence of such footage does not - _of course_ - mean the opposite is true. A lack of proof is not in-and-of itself proof of anything other than a current lack of proof.




*However - after 15+ years of allegedly manned "space stations" we can have reasonably expected to see such footage by now.* A brief three minute clip of "astronauts" clowning about doing somersaults (or "standing spinning" on the spot, etc.) or even just playing ping-pong.* _To have seen such footage after 15+ years is a reasonable expectation for us all to have._




Either we are being denied such footage (i.e., the "sufficient proof" required to justify a belief in the "ISS" exists but is being intentionally withheld) or such footage *cannot be produced* because the "ISS" is somehow being faked. _It only requires an average IQ and *honesty* to realise and accept these things._




If the "ISS" is not real and manned then the *illusion of a permanent micro/zero-gravity environment* must necessarily be created artificially. That can potentially be done through a range of techniques and certainly it can be achieved by *cleverly stitching together many briefer portions of genuine "zero gravity"* and masking the necessary joins with *glitches, cuts and edits.*




It should not need to be said but *it does not follow that every glitch, cut and edit represents a clever join.* However, some of them necessarily must. If that is the case - as it seems to be - then it explains why we can be shown hour-long "ISS tours" and thirty minute "ISS interviews" *but not ever a mere 3 minutes of somersaults or ping-pong.*




As I say - all of this is very easy stuff. It is elementary stuff. You should be embarrassed that you are struggling with this and have not already figured it out. In fact - I am not sure why you are struggling with it except that you so desperately want to believe you live in a "good" world.




*Your belief in a real and manned "ISS" is not justified.* If you genuinely hold such a belief *it is only because of trust* and because you have *mistaken proof's appearances for proof.*




If you are okay with trusting that there is an "ISS" then *at least be mindful that you are trusting the same groups of people who just a few decades ago had you believe they dropped atomic bombs on Japanese children.*




Why you would be so eager and willing to trust such people is beyond me. If those people would murder large numbers of children for the "greater good" then why would you think lying to large numbers of children - _also for the "greater good"_ - would be any more *taboo* and forbidden? _It wouldn't be._




Maybe your reaction to this topic is more because you have been led into believing that those who *rationally doubts* the official claim about the "ISS" are just "paranoid conspiracy theorists" and you are deathly afraid of ever being labelled as one of those. It would be social suicid3, right? Imagine your peers laughing at you for pointing out what I have above.




*There are a lot of disinformation merchants who are 24/7 pumping out lies and misrepresentations and wrong reasons to reject the claims about the "ISS".* Anyone who is linking "ISS rejection" with "flat Earth" is an agent of disinformation. We must at all times reject events and claims for the right reasons and not ever for the wrong reasons. Do you think these disinformation merchants are representative of all *genuine dissidents?* _They are not._ They are merely the other side *of the same coin.*




Oh my, how easily you have been tricked into believing whatever it is you want to be true. Although I do not know you as a person I can tell that you are someone who wants to believe you live in a world that has a real and manned "ISS" and not in a world that more simply lies about having one. You want to believe that humanity is - _overall_ - good. Because you think of *yourself* as being "good" don't you? You can believe that good will triumph over evil. That despite turning on the television and hearing all bad news you want to cling to the hope _that there is hope._




You believe there is a real and manned "ISS" because you want to believe there is one. And all of this despite the fact *you* have *never* seen a mere three minutes of somersaults or anything of that nature *which would necessarily prove there is a permanent micro/zero-gravity environment.* When you look at "ISS" footage you go into it with a pre-existing bias that it is all real. Because of that you don't even notice the numerous glitches, cuts and edits. And when they are pointed out to you (by a "conspiracy theorist") you create excuses for them and invent "plausible explanations" which are limited only by your natural intelligence and imagination. You have no idea whether your "plausible explanations" are correct or not (and you never seek to confirm or verify them) - all that matters is that you have thought of something that "sounds about right" so you can stop thinking. For example: because the masking glitches *resemble* "video compression glitches" (even though you've never seen video compression like it in known good footage) you settle on that as the "likely explanation" ("Occam's Razor" gets abused once again). You just don't care. Near enough is good enough for you because it gives you the answer you want: that it's all real and no core beliefs need to be challenged.




I do pity you because I was once like you. I once cringed and recoiled when I heard people denying the "ISS". But I have spent more time on this issue than you and most people. If you are an intelligent person who is - _above all_ - *honest* then you might stand a chance arriving at the truth. But you have a very long road ahead of you and *denial* will always prevent you from even getting started.




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