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- [10:53 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: Hey guys who would i need to speak with about the cup mod and a law suit
- [10:54 AM] Kllrt: law suit?
- [10:54 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: yes
- [10:55 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: Or more of the lines i need to speak with who ever is in charge of the cup mod its self
- [10:55 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: I am trying to come to the cup dev team first before it gets out of hand
- [10:56 AM] Chairborne: lawsuit about what?
- [10:56 AM] TheConen: well, we don't have one boss at the top who is in charge of everything(edited)
- [10:56 AM] NeoArmageddon: You are better asking BI about that stuff
- [10:56 AM] TheConen: but let's go to #conference and talk there
- [10:56 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: ok im new to this so how do i do that call
- [10:57 AM] TheConen: nevermind, let's talk here
- [10:57 AM] TheConen: so what's the problem?
- [10:57 AM] NeoArmageddon: Just explain what you are talking about
- [10:57 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: to much to type
- [10:58 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: i have a ts3
- [10:58 AM] Varanon: Is this your website ? http://epochpro.clanwebsite.com/
- EpochPro
- EpochPro
- [10:58 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: ts.epchpro.com
- [10:58 AM] NeoArmageddon: Why should we go to your TS, when you want something from us? We have other things to do... like making a mod(edited)
- [10:58 AM] Varanon: If yes, it's all pretty simple: You are a monetized server, CUP does not allow monetization, so either you remove montization from your server, or you remove CUP
- [10:59 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: monetized server yes , but all weapons and helis and cars are there for all players , no one has to donate to get said cup mod weapons or helis
- [11:00 AM] Varanon: It's the server's policy, not whether you pay for CUP items or not
- [11:00 AM] TheConen: doesn't matter, CUP doesn't allow its use on monetized servers, regardless if the CUP content itself is monetized or not
- [11:00 AM] Varanon: CUP may not be used on a monetized server, as simple as that
- [11:00 AM] Varanon: Sorry if that is inconvenient for you, but those are the rules
- [11:00 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: Well kinda ruins the whole aspect of the server man
- [11:01 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: cup weapons is fucking bad ass
- [11:01 AM] Varanon: As I said, sorry if that is inconvenient, but we simply do not allow it
- [11:01 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: i dont want to get rid of cup
- [11:01 AM] TheConen: you can still collect donations, but you are not allowed to monetize
- [11:01 AM] Chairborne: or offer rewards for donations
- [11:01 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: You cnt offer rewards either
- [11:01 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: cant
- [11:01 AM] TheConen: the difference between those two is explained on the BI FAQ side
- [11:02 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: I no already been with bi for over a year
- [11:02 AM] TheConen: https://www.bistudio.com/monetization/faq
- Bohemia Interactive
- FAQ | Server Monetization | Bohemia Interactive
- Bohemia Interactive monetization rules.
- [11:02 AM] Varanon: Viper, no offence, but is your server monetized ?
- [11:02 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: yeh it is but looks like there is a bad apple from the server that got banned and starting all this shit
- [11:03 AM] Varanon: Ok, it is monetized, therefore, you aren't allowed to use CUP
- [11:03 AM] Adanteh: If it is monetized you're the bad apple and you started it yourself
- [11:03 AM] Chairborne: you're doing something you're not allowed to do
- [11:03 AM] Varanon: Sorry, but those are the rules
- [11:03 AM] NeoArmageddon: Stop monetization and you are free to use CUP on your server.... simple
- [11:03 AM] Adanteh: You want to monetize? Don't use mods that forbid you from doing so. It's super simple. Otherwise make them yourself
- [11:04 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: Ok so even though every single player that joins the server has access to every single cup mod that the server is running for free i cant use them
- [11:04 AM] Varanon: Monetized -> NO CUP(edited)
- [11:04 AM] Chairborne: if its monetized no, you can't
- [11:04 AM] NeoArmageddon: If you are on the BI monetization list -> No CUP
- [11:04 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: Makes no sense and this is why the arma 3 community is posion
- [11:05 AM] Adanteh: lel, get a load of this guy
- [11:05 AM] Adanteh: Viper how much hours did you spend modding?
- [11:05 AM] Varanon: Sigh... right, because some team goes through all the effort of porting this, the Arma community is poison
- [11:05 AM] Alwarren: I tell you what doesn't make sense. Having spent MONTHS and MONTHS of work on something that WE DO NOT demand money for, only to have others monetize on it.
- [11:05 AM] NeoArmageddon: The community is poison because of people thinking they can sell stuff ingame that other people did, like camos for their backpacks and stuff
- [11:05 AM] Alwarren: These are our rules. Abide by them, or remove CUP. It is as simple as that
- [11:06 AM] TheConen: this pretty much sums it up, from the FAQ on our website: http://i.imgur.com/YHKHBTn.png
- [11:06 AM] NeoArmageddon: We had 13 years without monetization and everything was fine. Than people started to charge "donations"
- [11:06 AM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: Well i read my daily afternoon fun....
- [11:06 AM] Chairborne: 😉
- [11:06 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: I agree 100% man thats why i never did that i wanted to do it right but to limit the server from using cup mods is a bit overboard
- [11:06 AM] Alwarren: If that is a problem for you I can point you to the source data for the Arma 2 data files, and you can start your own mod from scratch. We'll talk again in a year or two about making sense, then.
- [11:06 AM] Adanteh: No iut's not
- [11:06 AM] NeoArmageddon: Just stop the monetization bullshit and just roll with donations
- [11:07 AM] Varanon: Viper, with all due respect, I've been with CUP since it was created. I spent literally 1.5 years on this
- [11:07 AM] Adanteh: How hard is it to run the server without CUP? Not hard at all.
- [11:07 AM] Adanteh: Just turn it off
- [11:07 AM] Adanteh: Ez
- [11:07 AM] Varanon: And you dare tell me I'm overboard with the simple request that CUP should not be used on monetized server ?
- [11:07 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: I am glad you have yall have created a great mod with alot of time in it i no i have watch it grow
- [11:07 AM] Varanon: When I never get anything in return ?
- [11:07 AM] Varanon: Give me a break
- [11:07 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: I dont charge people to join the server
- [11:08 AM] Chairborne: it doesnt matter
- [11:08 AM] NeoArmageddon: No, but for Backpack camos and some minigame stuff
- [11:08 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: Every player has access to all weapons and mod weapons
- [11:08 AM] Varanon: Monetized server -> No CUP... those are the rules
- [11:08 AM] Alwarren: It doesn't matter, if you are monetizing as per BI'S definition, you are not allowed to use CUP. End of discussion, really.
- [11:08 AM] Varanon: I can understand if you don't like them, but in terms of CUP, we make the rules
- [11:08 AM] TheConen: Viper, it simply doesn't matter what you charge people for. If you're monetizing content - any content - you are not allowed to use CUP (and btw: RHS has the same policy). It's as simple as that.(edited)
- [11:09 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: Well if i getr rid of monetizing then they come at me for the other stuff , i have been threw this like 4 times now with people trying to shut down my servers all the time man , see it from my side
- [11:10 AM] Varanon: Well, if you're no longer monetized, WE will not come at you
- [11:10 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: Ok then tell me this
- [11:10 AM] Varanon: That is the only limitation CUP has. If you're not monetized, feel free to use it as much as you like
- [11:10 AM] NeoArmageddon: And BI won't come at you aswell(edited)
- [11:11 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: How much of a donation would you like
- [11:11 AM] Varanon: ?
- [11:11 AM] TheConen: there are no exceptions to this rule and we are not bribable(edited)
- [11:11 AM] Adanteh: < insert 1 million dollars picture >
- [11:11 AM] TheConen: before you go there.....
- [11:11 AM] Alwarren: This isn't about a donation
- [11:11 AM] Alwarren: We simply ask you to respect our work.
- [11:11 AM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: 5mil...
- [11:11 AM] NeoArmageddon: http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/76/762195e1666497074ede151e0cbeb39738a411d967572cbbe24b90cf8db6011f.jpg
- [11:11 AM] Chairborne: several billion dollars is our price tag
- [11:11 AM] Cyruz: https://media.giphy.com/media/E3xXqq617AaFW/giphy.gif
- [11:11 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: I do respect yalls work
- [11:12 AM] NeoArmageddon: Than don't use it on a monetized servers...
- [11:12 AM] Varanon: You just disrespect the license we put on it
- [11:12 AM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: I will steal some of that then 😉
- [11:12 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: Just all these damn walls i have to keep jumping over to just run 5 servers
- [11:12 AM] Adanteh: It's not all these walls. It's a very simple one
- [11:13 AM] Adanteh: Don't monetize with mods that say you can't monetize with it. It's a really really simple concept. And if you can't afford to run 5 servers with that, then you should consider scaling back or start making the content for it yourself.
- [11:13 AM] NeoArmageddon: I run a server without problems
- [11:13 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: No guys i am always being sent a letter from bi or another mod team about something when all players have access to it thats all im saying man ,
- [11:13 AM] Varanon: Viper, you can take donnations as much as you want. Just not sell stuf
- [11:13 AM] Varanon: Monetizing content is a tricky buisness, and you should be glad that BI even allows it, ususally, no company does it
- [11:14 AM] Alwarren: Viper, whatever else you have is not with us. We ask people to respect our work and not use CUP on monetized servers. Period.
- [11:14 AM] Varanon: But if you chose to go down that road, you're in dangerous waters
- [11:14 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: Dangerous waters eh
- [11:14 AM] Varanon: You are basically running a buisiness
- [11:14 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: How i make no profit
- [11:14 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: like 0
- [11:15 AM] Varanon: In any case, it's pretty clear: Server monetized -> No CUP
- [11:15 AM] Varanon: Profit or no, doesn't matter
- [11:15 AM] Alwarren: Viper, what is so difficult to understand? You are monetziing your server, whether you make a profit or not is irrelevant. Our license says we do not allow the usage of CUP on a server that monetizes, ergo you have no license to use CUP and are infringing on our license.
- [11:16 AM] da12thMonkey: Regardless of whether you are charging people to use CUP assets specifically or not, having CUP on your server is used to attract players and expand your revenue-base, and in that way it is being used to monetise the server
- [11:16 AM] TheConen: If you make profit or not and what content exactly you monetize is completely irrelevant
- [11:16 AM] Chairborne: good point @da12thMonkey
- [11:16 AM] TheConen: You are monetizing something, so you are not allowed to use CUP
- [11:17 AM] NeoArmageddon: Okay, here is something to illustrate on the problem, as I think you don't fully understand what we mean. Imagine there is a restaurant that gives you food and drinks for for free (the restaurant is your server). We (CUP) grew some really good vegetables and we give them away for free, so other peopel can enjoy them for free aswell. Now the restaurant doesn't charge for the meals (made with our vegetables), but if you want to sit on a table, you have to pay. If you want to use the toilet, you have to pay. And if you want a glass fo water, you have to pay.
- Now we think that is very unfair, because we gave our vegetables for free to the restaurant. They are not selling the meals with our vegetables, but charge for other stuff and in the end the customers didn't spend money because they wanted to go to the toilet, but because they wanted the meal (playing A3 with CUP) in the first place.(edited)
- [11:18 AM] TheConen: @NeoArmageddon i like to think of us more as a really great steak then a vegetable.....
- [11:18 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: I already understand that im not a idiot, I have my own oil field company
- [11:19 AM] Varanon: If you understand, then please respect our license
- [11:19 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: Just really is bad when a mod team has to put certain license on said mod just sale the mod as a addon then problem solved
- [11:20 AM] Adanteh: ... what
- [11:20 AM] TheConen: you don't get the overall point of why we are doing this and why we are having said license with said restrictions......
- [11:20 AM] NeoArmageddon: We neither want to sell CUP nor we are allowed to
- [11:20 AM] Adanteh: Dude someone can make a license that says you can only use the mod every second wednesday of the month. If you have problems respecting that just don't use that. It's not so hard.
- [11:20 AM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: If the US Naval Warfare Pack was continued, we would have the same license
- [11:21 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: I understand that just there always something i have to either take down redo or hide :]
- [11:21 AM] Adanteh: No there's not.
- [11:21 AM] Alwarren: Geez, if I make an addon that requires you to say a prayer to a deity of your choice for the well being of my pot plant Jeff in order to use that addon, then you are legally obliged to ask God for new sprouts for Jeff, wether it makes sense or not
- [11:21 AM] TheConen: you just have to follow the rules and you can live in peace
- [11:22 AM] Varanon: @Alwarren How is Jeff, by the way ?
- [11:22 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: Ok well cup mod is staying on the server
- [11:22 AM] Alwarren: Jeff is doing well, thank you 😃
- [11:22 AM] Chairborne: #pray4Jeff
- [11:22 AM] Varanon: @Viper [Epoch Pro] so you stop monetizing ?
- [11:22 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: Looks like i will have too now <<<<see what i mean always something :]
- [11:23 AM] Varanon: Well, I'm sure your oilfield company can pay for a server or two
- [11:23 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: now they will come at me because people can paint there car
- [11:23 AM] TheConen: i'm running my own community for something like 2 years now and we never had problems with anything. we are using cup, rhs, ace, tfar and a ton of other mods and i never was in the need to pay for the server with my own money. why? because we are accepting donations, completely voluntarily donations without giving anything back for them.
- [11:23 AM] Alwarren: Viper, if there is "always something" then you should examine your behavior because apparently, you are doing something wrong. There are enough servers where there isn't "always something"
- [11:23 AM] Adanteh: Dude, you're trying to act like you want to paint a wall green and then when you buy blue paint you're super weirded out about how it doesn't work
- [11:24 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: no not doing wrong just using the mods the community makes and bam out of all the servers there is using cup weapons i get picked out of the bunch
- [11:24 AM] TheConen: if you have problems financing your server with donations instead of monetization, then your server probably isn't as good as you think it is
- [11:25 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: no donations are not a issue bud trust me
- [11:25 AM] Varanon: Geez, don't make this personal, we have this rule for each and every server out there
- [11:25 AM] Alwarren: Donations are fine. Monetization is not
- [11:25 AM] TheConen: well, then, what's the problem? stop monetizing and everything's fine
- [11:25 AM] Varanon: You play the vicitm here, while it is OUR license that has been violated
- [11:25 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: Ha
- [11:26 AM] Chairborne: Ha!
- [11:26 AM] Alwarren: Jeff says "Ha!" too
- [11:26 AM] TheConen: either way, this discussion is pointless. I'm pretty sure @BI will handle the whole thing.......
- [11:26 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: Im not playing no victim here just sad it has come to this instead of the arma 2 days when non of this crap was a big deal
- [11:26 AM] Chairborne: listen we explained you the rule, if you're ok with them and want to comply good for you, if you don't then you're gonna get sued
- [11:27 AM] Adanteh: CUP is giving you something nice to use for FREE, all you have to do is not charge people money to access features on your server. A lot of servers are doing that just fine, which is why they're not getting any problems.
- [11:27 AM] Chairborne: there's not much else to say
- [11:27 AM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: I say Ha! Aswell
- [11:27 AM] Chairborne: 😃
- [11:27 AM] Varanon: In Arma 2 days, no one had monetized servers
- [11:27 AM] Varanon: Not the modders are the problem, monetization is the problem
- [11:27 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: There you go point made
- [11:27 AM] TheConen: in arma 2 days, monetization wasn't allowed at all.....
- [11:27 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: i have no issue with cup
- [11:28 AM] Varanon: That made my day so much brigher now 😐
- [11:29 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: So i have donations for players to paint backpacks and cars or helis, now bi will come at me when i un monetiz my server correct
- [11:29 AM] Kllrt: Ha!
- [11:29 AM] Adanteh: Dude
- [11:29 AM] Chairborne: right
- [11:29 AM] Chairborne: 100% on point
- [11:29 AM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: Who even came up with monetiz
- [11:29 AM] TheConen: you don't seem to get what the difference between a donation and monetization is
- [11:29 AM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: ?
- [11:29 AM] Chairborne: satan
- [11:29 AM] Kllrt: @TheConen is right
- [11:29 AM] TheConen: donation = players pay you money and they don't get anything in return. nothing, nada, niente
- [11:30 AM] Tom_48_97: https://www.bistudio.com/monetization
- Bohemia Interactive
- Arma 3 & Dayz Server Monetization Rules | Bohemia Interactive
- Bohemia Interactive monetization rules.
- [11:30 AM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: @Chairborne Probably
- [11:30 AM] TheConen: no camos, no backpacks, no anything
- [11:30 AM] Adanteh: Modders contact BIS when their mod license is being broken. You are breaking their license, meaning BIS gets notified to take care of the legel things.
- [11:31 AM] TheConen: as soon as they get anything in return, and it if's only a special channel in the Teamspeak, you are monetizing, because you are selling things, and it doesn't matter what you sell
- [11:32 AM] Varanon: or whether you make a profit or no
- [11:32 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: tell me this then how did yall even find out
- [11:33 AM] TheConen: well, you are on the BI monetized server list.....
- [11:33 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: Some one had to report it to you
- [11:33 AM] Varanon: No, no one reported you
- [11:33 AM] Chairborne: your name is in the BI monetized servers page
- [11:33 AM] Chairborne: it's enough to click on the link and check
- [11:33 AM] Chairborne: btw we reported several other servers with yours
- [11:33 AM] TheConen: to be perfectly clear here: no one reported you. We ourselves went through the monetized servers list and searched out those servers using CUP
- [11:33 AM] Chairborne: you're not special 😛
- [11:34 AM] Adanteh: Anonymous source. All sources get full protection and legal support wherever needed. THey also go into a witness protection program, so (s)he has been offered a nice house in a secret location.
- [11:34 AM] Chairborne: CUP Witness Security Pack
- [11:34 AM] Chairborne:
- [11:35 AM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: Ooh, sexy
- [11:35 AM] Tom_48_97: I'll take the car, thanks(edited)
- [11:35 AM] Adanteh: Tom, that'll be $25 in donations please.
- [11:36 AM] TheConen: http://www.topito.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/code-03.gif
- [11:36 AM] Tom_48_97: @Adanteh No tools update for you then 🐐(edited)
- [11:36 AM] Chairborne: he got you there
- [11:36 AM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: @TheConen i want that
- [11:37 AM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: Shots fired
- [11:37 AM] TheConen: CUP police searching for monetized servers....
- [11:37 AM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: Where can i sign up?
- [11:37 AM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: I'd like to join the CUPPD
- [11:39 AM] TheConen: applications are being accepted at http://dev.cup-arma3.org
- [11:39 AM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: Yay
- [11:40 AM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: @TheConen i signed up, when can i get my gun and go on patrol
- [11:42 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: Well hope its not a server running cup then your in trouble
- [11:42 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: lol
- [11:42 AM] Adanteh: Dis guy
- [11:42 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: i no right
- [11:42 AM] TheConen: dude, you seriously don't get it
- [11:42 AM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: It can run CUP, but you are not allowed to ask money for it
- [11:42 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: i get it man just reading
- [11:43 AM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: facepalm
- [11:43 AM] TheConen: there are hundreds, probably thousands or tens of thousands of servers out there running CUP in peace(edited)
- [11:43 AM] TheConen: not monetizing
- [11:44 AM] Chairborne: ...or... are they
- [11:44 AM] TheConen: you could be one of them
- [11:44 AM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: Pam pam paaammmm!!!
- [11:44 AM] TheConen: but instead, you chose to monetize your server, violate our license and therefore have trouble
- [11:44 AM] Chairborne: hope someone gets banned from there too
- [11:44 AM] Chairborne: need that inside knowledge
- [11:45 AM] Chairborne: 😉
- [11:45 AM] TheConen: that's not our fault, that's yours
- [11:45 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: no one said it was your fault did i
- [11:45 AM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: I'll go undercover if needed 😝
- [11:45 AM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: But it will require monerization 😂
- [11:45 AM] TheConen: and you will continue to have that trouble until you either stop to monetize or remove CUP from your server
- [11:45 AM] Varanon: No, you just said we're the ones poisoning the Arma 3 community
- [11:46 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: thats fine i get your uid before you get to the server 😊
- [11:46 AM] Alwarren: Actually you said it was us "putting up walls", which kind of implies you blame us
- [11:46 AM] TheConen: and we don't give a damn if you like that or not, those are the rules
- [11:46 AM] TheConen: and either you play by the rules or get crushed by the rules
- [11:47 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: Well getting crushed is a little to op you think
- [11:47 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: and to say putting up walls i never said cup mod just the community in general
- [11:49 AM] Tom_48_97: If any issue regarding the monetization, please, use the report icon from this page. Other than that, I think there's not that much to say.
- https://www.bistudio.com/monetization/approved/arma3
- Bohemia Interactive
- Approved Server Monetizers | Bohemia Interactive
- Bohemia Interactive monetization rules.
- [11:49 AM] Chairborne: 😉
- [11:49 AM] Varanon: Well, this is our wall, and it's a big wall, it's a pretty wall, and Mexico is going to pay for it
- [11:49 AM] Chairborne: A BIG
- [11:49 AM] Chairborne: FAT
- [11:49 AM] Chairborne: WALL
- [11:49 AM] Chairborne: WITH A SHINY DOOR
- [11:50 AM] Tom_48_97: 🚪
- [11:50 AM] Adanteh: That says "People in pink jerseys allowed only!"
- [11:50 AM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: @Varanon haha lol
- [11:50 AM] Alwarren: Our other wall is made of ice, too
- [11:50 AM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: Life players not allowed the signs will read
- [11:51 AM] Mc_Jazza: I'll be honest, an hour ago I was about to ask if I could retexture some cup stuff, then all that just blew up, and boy oh boy was it painful to watch. Just like trying to hammer a really hard nail into a thick gelatinous blob.
- [11:51 AM] TheConen: anyway, i'm tired of this discussion...... you know your options, now do what you can't resist. our good friend vojta obviously already sent you a message, otherwise you wouldn't be here, so you know what awaits you(edited)
- [11:52 AM] TheConen: or maybe you don't and you are eager to find out.....
- [11:52 AM] Adanteh: Mc_Jazza. Ofcourse you can retexture and you won't even have to worry that people ask money for it!
- [11:53 AM] TheConen: @Mc_Jazza you are free to retexture anything you want, you only need to release it under the same license as CUP does (APL-SA).
- [11:55 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: Ah theconen see i came in here and i have once not threaten you but your little post there sums it up for me man thats all i needed was your threat to me so lets put that towards your license bud how the cup devs threaten people http://prntscr.com/b8bcxz
- [11:55 AM] Adanteh: haha
- [11:55 AM] Adanteh: fucking a
- [11:56 AM] Chairborne:
- [11:56 AM] Adanteh: Get out of here dude
- [11:56 AM] Alwarren: Well that is just awesome... Jeff is giggling right now
- [11:56 AM] Adanteh: Kelly!
- [11:56 AM] Alwarren: Right Kelly.
- [11:56 AM] Alwarren: #pray4kelly
- [11:56 AM] Chairborne:
- [11:57 AM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: My day ia getting better and better.....(edited)
- [11:57 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: What i come in here ask around i fully understand the issue on my side but you all talk to me like a fucking pos, i mean come on how would you feel
- [11:58 AM] Chairborne: we already gave you a reasonable explanation
- [11:58 AM] Alwarren: Did we hurt your feelings?
- [11:58 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: You see always a smartass answer
- [11:58 AM] Chairborne: the time for politenes flew off the window when you started making bullshit up and threating us
- [11:58 AM] Alwarren: I only give smartass answers to people that behave like dicks.
- [11:59 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: i never once threaten you or made any bs up
- [11:59 AM] Alwarren: Nobody threatened you.
- [11:59 AM] Varanon: No on threatened you either
- [11:59 AM] Alwarren: Grow up man
- [11:59 AM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: @Viper [Epoch Pro]#786 its called banter, learn it. 😉
- [12:00 PM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: Grow up really i came in here asking what the issue was and if you read all of yalls post its nothing but talking to me like a pos man
- [12:00 PM] Varanon: Can we now please end this discussion ? Viper, you came here, we infomred you about our license, now please adhere to the license
- [12:00 PM] Varanon: Not much more to say
- [12:00 PM] Alwarren: Well and we explained the issue to you, it's just that you don'T want to accept it. It is our mod, it is our license, adhere to it PLEASE or cease to use it.
- [12:00 PM] Alwarren: Simple as that.
- [12:01 PM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: I said i was but then one of the other had to chime in with another bs comment to me
- [12:01 PM] Alwarren: In that case, why don't you simply leave?
- [12:01 PM] Varanon: Well, all good then. Thank you for respecting our work and our license
- [12:02 PM] Mc_Jazza: At the end of the day Viper, you came here to ask a question, the CUP devs answered and told you that you were breaking the CUP license with your use of CUP on your server. You then claimed you were an oil baron and more importantly failed to accept (in writing here) what you had been told. Repeatedly.
- [12:02 PM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: Like i said i have no issue with cup love the mod just some of your staff or dev team could use some manners thats all
- [12:02 PM] Varanon: LOL
- [12:02 PM] Varanon: Ok, that was a good one
- [12:02 PM] Alwarren: Says the guy that irngored the license...
- [12:02 PM] Varanon: I will presonally spank them all
- [12:02 PM] Mc_Jazza: Manners, You broke the license, what on earth did you expect?(edited)
- [12:02 PM] Chairborne: he's the victim, dont you all understand?
- [12:03 PM] Chairborne: how is he supposed to gain money if he cant use our mods?!
- [12:03 PM] Alwarren: Alright, discussion over. We have taken a lot of time to explain our point of view, and been really trying to be polite about it. It is time now for you to comply with our license. Thank you very much, and have a nice and productive day.
- [12:03 PM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: ha i dont need money and using your mods diff doesnt get me money since half the stuff glitches out all the time
- [12:03 PM] NeoArmageddon: Better remove it than
- [12:03 PM] Chairborne: good
- [12:04 PM] Chairborne: you wont be missed
- [12:04 PM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: Here we go!!
- [12:04 PM] Chairborne: bye
- [12:04 PM] Alwarren: and here we go from "I love it" to "it'S trash anyway". Oh, how I know this pattern.
- [12:04 PM] Varanon: Really ? Low punches now ?
- [12:04 PM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: just saying like when you fold the rotors and unfold them the heli will not start up again
- [12:04 PM] Rik: Is it worth still dignifying this guy with text?
- [12:04 PM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: no player imput
- [12:04 PM] NeoArmageddon: @Rik No, not really
- [12:04 PM] NeoArmageddon: http://i.imgur.com/O3DHIA5.gif
- [12:04 PM] Alwarren: dev.cup-arma3.org
- [12:05 PM] Mc_Jazza: @Rik No, but he's hogging this chat board
- [12:05 PM] Rik: BI will handle it and the guy will have to deal with whatever consequences it'll bring.
- [12:05 PM] Plebeian: Hello England speaking mans, I am from the rich hard working oil field company of Takistan. I am interested in offerings of two hot doggerinos for CUP, so I can make the monies from equally educated mans. Who be taking my sausage?
- [12:05 PM] Chairborne: he has been dealt with
- [12:05 PM] Chairborne: he rests with the fishes now(edited)
- [12:05 PM] Alwarren: Damn I was looking for the kick button and someone was faster than me -_-
- [12:06 PM] Rik: And now his watch has ended.
- [12:06 PM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: RIP
- [12:06 PM] Chairborne: he was dealt with... the italian way
- [12:06 PM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: Lol
- [12:06 PM] Alwarren: Good thing it was not ZE GERMAN WAY
- [12:07 PM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: Hahahah
- [12:08 PM] Varanon: I think I'll print that any pin it to the wall
- [12:10 PM] Chairborne: show's over, we'll now resume our regular broadcast
- [12:11 PM] Alwarren: @BI how about lightening the day by releasing that devblog ? nudge nudge
- [12:11 PM] Alwarren: ^^
- [12:11 PM] Alwarren: #RoadToApexIsSoLong
- [12:11 PM] TheConen: let's not leave the rest of the discussion undocumented, shall we? http://i.imgur.com/J0OmflC.gifv
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- [12:21 PM] [=UKSF=] Tim: pot get on ts
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