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- (tl;dr at bottom)
- Hi,
- I'm a 17 year old and I've been interested in computers for yonks. I don't know much about this site but I figured it would be good to ask this here.
- I've been thinking ahead about my career in regards to this split road I think I'm at. Some advice from here would be nice - what would you pick in my situation, considering where you currently are?
- Recently I interviewed for a Software Engineering degree apprenticeship with the BBC. Obvious very household name, but not very associated with tech.
- If you are outside of the UK, to give you an idea, a degree apprenticeship is where you work in a company alongside studiying for your degree. They are quite competitive and sought after. They pay you a salary and your tuition fees, etc. You have to cover your own cost of living though. The benefit is you get experience and money.
- I ended up an offer which was amazing as I thought I completely failed the technical interview.
- Out of 1000+ candidates, I was one of the lucky 7! So about a 0.5% chance I got in.
- So, what I am asking, is what, in your opinion, would be a better option post-18?
- Software Engineering Degree Apprenticeship w/ BBC (London or Manchester based)
- or
- MSc Comp Sci @ a Russel group university (top 15)
- I'll list some pros and cons below.
- SWE Degree Apprenticeship
- + Will be either London or Manchester based.
- + £23,000 starting salary, will increase per year.
- + If London role, £27,000 starting salary.
- + £50k savings likely by end.
- + Studies entirely paid fo, no debt.
- + BSc in Level 6 Digital Technology Solutions.
- + Can do MSc in CS @ Oxbridge / RG after.
- + 4 YoE at 22 years old.
- + Strong name on my CV.
- + BBC is Fortune 500 (Europe) company
- + If London role, will be renting a place with my best mate :)
- + Will work on their big streaming platform, mobile apps, website etc.
- / Renting my own place, potentially on my own...
- - Will miss out on "university experience"
- - Worse social life?
- - Not a tech company per se.
- - Have to cover own rent, food etc.
- - Worried that BSc in Level 6 Digital Technology Solutions is not a respected degree. (will do masters in CS after though)
- - If Manchester role, I would be studying at the Open University.
- - Which is less respected than RG / Red Brick unis.
- - Would have to study entirely online.
- - No facilities.
- - No social aspect.
- University
- + Would probably enjoy considerably more.
- + Much better social life.
- + Would be surrounded by CS people, other students.
- + Good chance I get a high grade (1st or 2:1)
- + Will be able to intern at companies during summer!
- + Year in Industry included.
- + Masters integrated into course.
- + Higher graduation prospects.
- + Facilities are beautiful and amazing
- + Student accommodation sounds cool to me!
- + Debt paid off very slow, barely considered a debt.
- + Have friends going there!
- - £50k ish debt
- - Not 100% chance I get good employer for Industry year, or any internships. (Would be likely though).
- - Not nearly as much experience.
- - Will be in the same boat as everyone else!
- - Worried I will be ahead of others in terms of actual technical skill.
- - Theory is not my strong suit (but pretty good as well).
- At the end of the day I'm not too fussed about the money, but maybe that's just my young inexperience right now.
- I will post this to other forums as I want to get a general consensus.
- Thanks, sorry if this breaks any rules. You can remove or downvote if it does :(
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- TL:DR:
- If you were an employer at a tech company, hiring new grads, who would you hire?
- Candidate 1
- - 4 years of work experience
- - Worked at the BBC doing software engineering
- - Level 6 Digital Technology Solutions at Open University
- - MSc Comp Sci at Top 5 university.
- Candidate 2
- - Sheffield University graduate
- - 2/3 summer internships at multiple companies
- - Year in industry at X company
- - MSc and BSc in Comp Sci
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