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  2. (14:50:51) Azumarill: after that miki ladder run
  3. (14:50:52) away: I don't think 666 is a good idea
  4. (14:50:54) Azumarill: we stopped taking ou seriously too
  5. (14:51:05) Azumarill: literally dumb
  6. (14:51:09) Azumarill: you saw how
  7. (14:51:14) Azumarill: alola $15 turned out
  8. (14:51:21) Azumarill: 4 broken fairies in top 10
  9. (14:51:26) Azumarill: and the
  10. (14:51:27) away: yes
  11. (14:51:28) Azumarill: only $ tier
  12. (14:51:29) Azumarill: which was
  13. (14:51:35) Azumarill: legit almost discarded
  14. (14:51:36) Azumarill: LOL
  15. (14:51:40) Azumarill: I kept it but
  16. (14:51:49) Azumarill: miki refused to use it for a reason
  17. (14:51:49) Azumarill: you see
  18. (14:51:56) away: lunala?
  19. (14:52:00) Azumarill: no
  20. (14:52:02) Azumarill: she doesnt know mons
  21. (14:52:04) Azumarill: new
  22. (14:52:05) Azumarill: low tier mons
  23. (14:52:07) Azumarill: was why
  24. (14:52:08) Azumarill: but
  25. (14:52:11) Azumarill: remember?
  26. (14:52:12) Azumarill: you said
  27. (14:52:14) Azumarill: magearna
  28. (14:52:15) Azumarill: steamrolls
  29. (14:52:17) Azumarill: the entire thing
  30. (14:52:22) away: yes
  31. (14:52:23) Azumarill: now if magearna cna steamroll a list
  32. (14:52:25) Azumarill: where I deliberately
  33. (14:52:29) Azumarill: put in magearna checks
  34. (14:52:30) Azumarill: and a lunala
  35. (14:52:44) Azumarill: how would it fair in ou where there is no lunala and other things need check?
  36. (14:52:44) Azumarill: that should
  37. (14:52:46) Azumarill: give an idea
  38. (14:52:48) Azumarill: how bad alola was
  39. (14:52:49) Azumarill: for ou
  40. (14:53:03) Azumarill: not to mention
  41. (14:53:04) Azumarill: elec spam
  42. (14:53:07) Azumarill: is almost as aids as magearna
  43. (14:53:08) away: miki didn't run magearna
  44. (14:53:13) Azumarill: miki didnt make
  45. (14:53:15) Azumarill: team
  46. (14:53:16) Azumarill: but I mean
  47. (14:53:17) Azumarill: tapu koko+xurkitree
  48. (14:53:21) Azumarill: I ran that on ou
  49. (14:53:31) Azumarill: you see the problem of walling it
  50. (14:53:39) Azumarill: grass types are 2hkod by t bolt
  51. (14:53:40) away: no
  52. (14:53:47) Azumarill: >2hkod
  53. (14:54:07) Azumarill: im
  54. (14:54:07) Azumarill: bs ing
  55. (14:54:11) away: what about chansey
  56. (14:54:18) Azumarill: +3 252 SpA Xurkitree Thunderbolt vs. 172 HP / 0 SpD Dhelmise in Electric Terrain: 373-439 (115.1 - 135.4%) -- gu
  57. (14:54:31) Azumarill: +3 252 SpA Xurkitree Thunderbolt vs. 244 HP / 12 SpD Eviolite Chansey in Electric Terrain: 433-510 (61.6 - 72.6%)
  58. (14:54:46) away: o
  59. (14:54:53) Azumarill: once you
  60. (14:54:54) Azumarill: suicide koko
  61. (14:54:57) Azumarill: to set up screens
  62. (14:55:01) Azumarill: you can tail glow turn 1
  63. (14:55:03) away: but ground types
  64. (14:55:06) Azumarill: then z hypno turn 2
  65. (14:55:15) Azumarill: then spam t bolt and hp ice
  66. (14:55:25) away: then swampert stops you
  67. (14:55:48) Azumarill: well
  68. (14:55:51) Azumarill: thats assuming
  69. (14:55:53) Azumarill: you dont put swmap to sleep
  70. (14:56:01) Azumarill: +3 252 SpA Xurkitree Hidden Power Ice vs. 240 HP / 16 SpD Swampert: 217-256 (54.1 - 63.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
  71. (14:56:07) Azumarill: becuase it cant afford to try to wake up
  72. (14:56:14) away: o
  73. (14:56:14) Azumarill: so you
  74. (14:56:15) Azumarill: sleep fodder 1 mon
  75. (14:56:17) Azumarill: throw another mon
  76. (14:56:19) Azumarill: then get swamp injured
  77. (14:56:24) Azumarill: also swamp wont
  78. (14:56:33) Azumarill: ko it through koko's suicide reflect
  79. (14:56:38) Azumarill: so stalling reflect
  80. (14:56:43) Azumarill: probably loses 1-2 another mon
  81. (14:56:49) away: mega camerupt then
  82. (14:57:14) Azumarill: alternatively
  83. (14:57:15) Azumarill: +3 252 SpA Xurkitree Energy Ball vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 348-410 (97.2 - 114.5%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO
  84. (14:57:32) Azumarill: since e ball ko chomp anyway
  85. (14:57:33) away: o
  86. (14:57:34) Azumarill: +3 252 SpA Xurkitree Energy Ball vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Landorus-Therian: 365-430 (95.5 - 112.5%) -- 7
  87. (14:57:39) Azumarill: you can use that over
  88. (14:57:40) Azumarill: hp ice
  89. (14:57:53) Azumarill: camerupt doesnt quite tank
  90. (14:57:59) away: then stop koko lol
  91. (14:58:05) Azumarill: stopping a
  92. (14:58:07) Azumarill: 130 speed mon
  93. (14:58:14) Azumarill: from taunt/reflect/light screen ing
  94. (14:58:15) Azumarill: is
  95. (14:58:16) Azumarill: p hard
  96. (14:58:21) Azumarill: even harder when you dont know
  97. (14:58:22) Azumarill: what koko it is
  98. (14:58:31) Azumarill: like you cant just bring your "anti troll mon"
  99. (14:58:39) Azumarill: it could easily be calm mind z move koko
  100. (14:58:41) Azumarill: and sweep you
  101. (14:58:43) Azumarill: if you try that
  102. (14:58:47) Azumarill: sometimes people do that
  103. (14:58:50) Azumarill: with scarf xurkitree
  104. (14:58:55) Azumarill: and set-up koko
  105. (14:59:00) Azumarill: so unless you
  106. (14:59:03) Azumarill: already know the team
  107. (14:59:05) Azumarill: its aidsy
  108. (14:59:10) Azumarill: and thats just a 2 mon core
  109. (14:59:17) Azumarill: that team can still have magearna
  110. (14:59:32) Azumarill: or hawlucha
  111. (14:59:41) Azumarill: if you fodder 3 mon to check 1 sweeper
  112. (14:59:47) Azumarill: you lose to the others
  113. (14:59:53) away: o
  114. (14:59:54) away: rip no enough space in team
  115. (14:59:58) Azumarill: not enough space to
  116. (15:00:02) Azumarill: wall
  117. (15:00:04) Azumarill: but enough space to create aids
  118. (15:00:11) Azumarill: lets say
  119. (15:00:45) Azumarill: koko/xurkitree/mageanra/hawlucha/pelipper/kingdra
  120. (15:00:50) Azumarill: you already put in
  121. (15:00:53) Azumarill: 4 combination
  122. (15:00:56) Azumarill: rain thunder
  123. (15:00:58) Azumarill: rain swift swim
  124. (15:01:06) Azumarill: electric terrain electric
  125. (15:01:08) away: no sr
  126. (15:01:13) Azumarill: electrci terrian hawlucha
  127. (15:01:15) Azumarill: who need sr
  128. (15:01:19) Azumarill: you lose to
  129. (15:01:21) Azumarill: sash spam
  130. (15:01:23) Azumarill: without sr
  131. (15:01:28) Azumarill: but in high ladder thats 0 usage
  132. (15:01:39) Azumarill: or
  133. (15:01:42) Azumarill: since your mega slot
  134. (15:01:43) Azumarill: wasnt even used
  135. (15:01:47) Azumarill: you can use mega swampert over kingdra
  136. (15:01:48) Azumarill: lol!
  137. (15:01:59) away: kingdra is stronger
  138. (15:02:05) Azumarill: sr
  139. (15:02:06) Azumarill: I mean
  140. (15:02:09) Azumarill: if you need it
  141. (15:02:12) Azumarill: either way
  142. (15:02:17) Azumarill: you covered speed by rain
  143. (15:02:20) Azumarill: elec by swamp
  144. (15:02:25) Azumarill: grass by fly/mag
  145. (15:02:27) Azumarill: you can use
  146. (15:02:37) Azumarill: (15:00:53) Azumarill: 4 combination
  147. (15:02:37) Azumarill: (15:00:56) Azumarill: rain thunder
  148. (15:02:37) Azumarill: (15:00:58) Azumarill: rain swift swim
  149. (15:02:37) Azumarill: (15:01:06) Azumarill: electric terrain electric
  150. (15:02:38) Azumarill: (15:01:13) Azumarill: electrci terrian hawlucha
  151. (15:02:46) Azumarill: shift gear electric terrain boosted magearna
  152. (15:02:46) Azumarill: or
  153. (15:02:50) Azumarill: be a
  154. (15:02:51) Azumarill: bigger troll
  155. (15:02:55) Azumarill: and turn out its a trick room magearna
  156. (15:03:03) Azumarill: or xurkitree can be z hypno
  157. (15:03:08) Azumarill: one can never be too sure
  158. (15:03:11) Azumarill: and
  159. (15:03:17) Azumarill: there is no singular team to check
  160. (15:03:23) Azumarill: all the possible sets here
  161. (15:03:51) Azumarill: you can cteam but no viable team actually beat a team which has these 6 mons reliably
  162. (15:03:59) Azumarill: and even when cteaming it can go wrong so many way
  163. (15:04:23) away: but no mega charizard x and ash greninja there
  164. (15:04:26) Azumarill: considering hawlucha has next to no counter and all of them are weak to grass+electric types
  165. (15:04:28) Azumarill: well
  166. (15:04:31) Azumarill: you can
  167. (15:04:37) Azumarill: this is just
  168. (15:04:38) Azumarill: 1 build
  169. (15:04:45) Azumarill: notice how its full of aids
  170. (15:04:47) Azumarill: without losing
  171. (15:04:51) Azumarill: "teamwork"
  172. (15:04:56) Azumarill: since they work with each other
  173. (15:05:04) Azumarill: normally spamming broken mon used to fail
  174. (15:05:10) Azumarill: since they didnt work well with each other
  175. (15:05:12) Azumarill: now they do
  176. (15:05:12) Azumarill: rip
  177. (15:05:55) Azumarill: alternatively you can use char x with z sunny day heatran, and overrun opponent with fire spam
  178. (15:06:05) Azumarill: replace 2 mon of your choice from there
  179. (15:06:15) Azumarill: peli and swamp
  180. (15:06:34) away: why don't you spam that on ou tours for stones
  181. (15:06:38) Azumarill: I spammed
  182. (15:06:40) Azumarill: rain elec
  183. (15:06:42) Azumarill: on ou tour
  184. (15:06:43) Azumarill: remember ?
  185. (15:06:54) Azumarill: wow
  186. (15:06:56) Azumarill: forgetful much
  187. (15:06:58) Azumarill: I literally ran
  188. (15:07:00) away: not with xurkitree
  189. (15:07:02) Azumarill: 5/6 of that
  190. (15:07:03) Azumarill: well
  191. (15:07:07) Azumarill: I used
  192. (15:07:09) Azumarill: extra speed
  193. (15:07:12) Azumarill: of 2 swift swim
  194. (15:07:18) Azumarill: since everyone ran offense
  195. (15:07:27) Azumarill: xurktiree beat stall easier
  196. (15:07:36) Azumarill: er actually
  197. (15:07:39) Azumarill: I used
  198. (15:07:40) Azumarill: xurkitree
  199. (15:07:41) Azumarill: vs that boy
  200. (15:07:42) Azumarill: o/
  201. (15:07:51) Azumarill: since he kept running fat reuniclus teams
  202. (15:07:53) away: o
  203. (15:08:00) Azumarill: so instead of getting toad to get walled by mantine
  204. (15:08:04) Azumarill: xurkitree 6-0 him
  205. (15:08:15) Azumarill: anyway I didnt have
  206. (15:08:18) Azumarill: hawlucha on that
  207. (15:08:19) Azumarill: had scizor instead
  208. (15:08:21) Azumarill: but point is
  209. (15:08:24) Azumarill: same aids
  210. (15:08:34) Azumarill: the real issues are
  211. (15:08:34) Azumarill: koko and magearna
  212. (15:08:37) Azumarill: is why I said
  213. (15:08:39) Azumarill: "fairy is aids"
  214. (15:08:50) Azumarill: hawlucha, double screens, and xurkitree
  215. (15:08:52) Azumarill: all of these are
  216. (15:08:55) Azumarill: koko's contribution
  217. (15:08:57) Azumarill: one by electric seed
  218. (15:09:02) Azumarill: one by super speed hazard lead
  219. (15:09:06) Azumarill: and one by electric terrain power up
  220. (15:09:14) Azumarill: magearna doesn't help anything but
  221. (15:09:17) Azumarill: who needs to help
  222. (15:09:24) Azumarill: when it can autowin vs 2/3 teams
  223. (15:09:33) Azumarill: and the best part is
  224. (15:09:35) Azumarill: you get to pick
  225. (15:09:38) Azumarill: what it autowin against
  226. (15:09:41) Azumarill: with your coverage
  227. (15:09:44) Azumarill: so you can just
  228. (15:09:45) Azumarill: put 5 mon
  229. (15:09:49) Azumarill: see what walls it
  230. (15:09:53) Azumarill: then design magearna to bop it
  231. (15:10:20) Azumarill: rain is
  232. (15:10:22) away: I failed on that
  233. (15:10:23) Azumarill: actually
  234. (15:10:24) Azumarill: the least aids
  235. (15:10:30) Azumarill: compared to this
  236. (15:10:32) Azumarill: alola fairy bs
  237. (15:10:36) Azumarill: mimikyu is also annoying
  238. (15:10:41) Azumarill: since its a offensive mon with built in sash
  239. (15:10:55) Azumarill: means it lets offensive team build without caring about own team's defense against sweep
  240. (15:10:55) away: both mimikyus are
  241. (15:10:58) Azumarill: since it stops
  242. (15:11:02) Azumarill: any sweeper
  243. (15:11:15) Azumarill: so you have no fear of
  244. (15:11:17) Azumarill: getting swept
  245. (15:11:21) away: bar haxorus
  246. (15:11:22) Azumarill: letting you spam broken attackers
  247. (15:11:36) Azumarill: and if you are sash
  248. (15:11:40) Azumarill: you can even oddish mold breakers
  249. (15:12:19) away: and still have disguise rip
  250. (15:12:47) Azumarill: oh right
  251. (15:12:49) Azumarill: doesnt remove
  252. (15:12:51) Azumarill: y i k e s
  253. (15:13:58) away: got an xurkitree rain electric magearna team?
  254. (15:14:15) Azumarill: erm
  255. (15:14:17) Azumarill: I haee
  256. (15:14:19) Azumarill: hawlucha instead
  257. (15:14:21) Azumarill: for main
  258. (15:14:31) Azumarill: the reason I use hawlucha over xurk
  259. (15:14:32) Azumarill: is because
  260. (15:14:34) away: with hawlucha
  261. (15:14:37) Azumarill: I build
  262. (15:14:39) Azumarill: oh
  263. (15:14:39) Azumarill: sure
  264. (15:14:40) Azumarill: just
  265. (15:14:45) Azumarill: replace 1 mon of my rain
  266. (15:14:49) Azumarill: with xurkitree
  267. (15:14:57) Azumarill: replace a swift swimmer*
  268. (15:14:59) Azumarill: to be exact
  269. (15:15:10) away: idk magearna counter killer set
  270. (15:15:19) Azumarill: whjat is a
  271. (15:15:21) Azumarill: magearna counter
  272. (15:15:25) Azumarill: xurkitree is a stand alone set
  273. (15:15:29) Azumarill: doesnt need to support
  274. (15:15:38) Azumarill: since it literally 2hko EVERY legal mon
  275. (15:15:42) Azumarill: except alolan marowak
  276. (15:15:51) away: ah
  277. (15:16:03) Azumarill: that's b/c
  278. (15:16:05) Azumarill: lightningrod
  279. (15:16:09) away: how much is energy ball on that
  280. (15:16:21) Azumarill: +3 252 SpA Xurkitree Energy Ball vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Marowak-Alola: 181-213 (56 - 65.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
  281. (15:16:24) away: 2jko
  282. (15:16:26) away: 2hko
  283. (15:16:27) Azumarill: yikes
  284. (15:16:30) Azumarill: well
  285. (15:16:33) away: I mean
  286. (15:16:38) Azumarill: marowak can win if it doesnt get put to sleep
  287. (15:16:41) Azumarill: so thats fine
  288. (15:16:47) away: marowak cant survive magearna
  289. (15:16:48) Azumarill: anyway main reason
  290. (15:16:51) Azumarill: I put
  291. (15:16:58) Azumarill: siwfswimmer
  292. (15:17:00) Azumarill: over hypnosis
  293. (15:17:03) Azumarill: xurkitree
  294. (15:17:11) Azumarill: is that hypnosis never hit when you need to
  295. (15:17:22) Azumarill: other than that its probly better
  296. (15:17:22) Azumarill: lol!
  297. (15:17:26) away: your koko isn't screenz
  298. (15:17:34) Azumarill: well
  299. (15:17:35) Azumarill: can change
  300. (15:17:35) Azumarill: or
  301. (15:17:40) Azumarill: just run scarf xurkitree
  302. (15:17:43) Azumarill: works fine with this koko
  303. (15:17:51) Azumarill: since its not terrain extender koko
  304. (15:17:59) Azumarill: scarf xurk with offensive e belt koko
  305. (15:18:01) Azumarill: does fine
  306. (15:18:06) away: but
  307. (15:18:09) Azumarill: just need to get xurkitree coinflips right
  308. (15:18:16) away: why not run screens
  309. (15:18:16) Azumarill: hp ice
  310. (15:18:17) Azumarill: e ball
  311. (15:18:20) Azumarill: oh
  312. (15:18:21) Azumarill: idk
  313. (15:18:24) Azumarill: I was too lazy
  314. (15:18:28) Azumarill: and it was winning every game anyway
  315. (15:18:31) Azumarill: so I didnt bother changing set
  316. (15:18:37) Azumarill: also screen koko
  317. (15:18:44) Azumarill: I didn't think it would be good
  318. (15:18:46) Azumarill: back then
  319. (15:18:51) away: not every
  320. (15:18:52) Azumarill: it started getting spammed in usum
  321. (15:18:57) Azumarill: thats how I learnt it exists
  322. (15:19:08) away: this plan might be better
  323. (15:19:10) Azumarill: back then I didnt know it could pull that off
  324. (15:19:23) Azumarill: and when I leanrt
  325. (15:19:26) Azumarill: I was too lazy to change
  326. (15:19:30) Azumarill: wins enough yes?
  327. (15:19:32) away: not too late
  328. (15:19:48) Azumarill: this koko is good for oddishing things anyway
  329. (15:19:57) away: people are used to your current team
  330. (15:19:59) Azumarill: well
  331. (15:19:59) Azumarill: if I
  332. (15:20:03) Azumarill: ever play ou again
  333. (15:20:09) away: you started not running rain pls
  334. (15:20:15) Azumarill: oh
  335. (15:20:16) Azumarill: that's b/c
  336. (15:20:19) Azumarill: i had good not-rains
  337. (15:20:22) Azumarill: metamence's
  338. (15:20:23) away: ou tours
  339. (15:20:24) Azumarill: broken team
  340. (15:20:36) Azumarill: char x hawlucha
  341. (15:20:42) Azumarill: kartana
  342. (15:20:43) Azumarill: juice
  343. (15:20:52) away: kartana is nothing
  344. (15:21:02) Azumarill: it can be
  345. (15:21:03) Azumarill: dangerous
  346. (15:21:08) Azumarill: in right matchup
  347. (15:21:12) away: not like ser
  348. (15:21:13) Azumarill: obv not
  349. (15:21:15) Azumarill: magearna tier
  350. (15:21:15) away: Serperior
  351. (15:21:27) Azumarill: serp is
  352. (15:21:31) Azumarill: overall less bad than kartana
  353. (15:21:35) Azumarill: becuas eits at elast a "fair" mon
  354. (15:21:39) Azumarill: it gives opponent a chance
  355. (15:21:46) Azumarill: kartana with wrong matchup is autoloss
  356. (15:22:00) away: you what
  357. (15:22:09) away: what chance
  358. (15:22:16) Azumarill: coverage issue
  359. (15:22:18) Azumarill: pp issue
  360. (15:22:21) Azumarill: since
  361. (15:22:24) Azumarill: sepr's best set is
  362. (15:22:28) Azumarill: sub glare leech seed leaf storm
  363. (15:22:29) Azumarill: yes?
  364. (15:22:36) away: does he need coverage
  365. (15:22:46) Azumarill: now you see it actualyl cant hurt some stuff
  366. (15:22:49) Azumarill: because
  367. (15:22:53) Azumarill: well
  368. (15:22:55) Azumarill: on ladder you dont
  369. (15:22:59) Azumarill: but you see
  370. (15:23:03) Azumarill: if you are up against serious players
  371. (15:23:07) Azumarill: they will just use the grass resist to
  372. (15:23:14) Azumarill: with protect ro soemthing
  373. (15:23:19) Azumarill: sap away leaf storm pp
  374. (15:23:38) away: they will lose mons
  375. (15:23:42) Azumarill: yes but
  376. (15:23:45) Azumarill: not all 6
  377. (15:23:48) Azumarill: which is
  378. (15:23:50) Azumarill: half the time
  379. (15:23:52) Azumarill: the case
  380. (15:23:55) Azumarill: with kartana
  381. (15:24:03) Azumarill: if you get on the wrong side of it
  382. (15:24:04) Azumarill: you see
  383. (15:24:07) Azumarill: it get knock off in usum
  384. (15:24:16) Azumarill: to further be aids
  385. (15:24:20) Azumarill: knock off a shed shell
  386. (15:24:23) Azumarill: trap the skarm
  387. (15:24:35) Azumarill: or black hole eclispe volcarona
  388. (15:24:39) away: oh
  389. (15:24:48) away: pfft
  390. (15:24:53) Azumarill: too much
  391. (15:24:54) Azumarill: aids
  392. (15:24:55) away: volcarona
  393. (15:24:56) Azumarill: its aids in
  394. (15:24:58) Azumarill: sm anyway
  395. (15:25:01) Azumarill: usum gave it
  396. (15:25:03) Azumarill: 2 stack of buff
  397. (15:25:18) Azumarill: not to mention
  398. (15:25:19) away: zapdos still is an issue
  399. (15:25:20) Azumarill: it can just
  400. (15:25:21) Azumarill: pull a
  401. (15:25:22) Azumarill: xurkitree
  402. (15:25:30) Azumarill: and spam banded leaf blade with tapu bulu suport
  403. (15:25:31) Azumarill: lol!
  404. (15:26:01) Azumarill: 252 Atk Choice Band Kartana Leaf Blade vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Magearna in Grassy Terrain: 189-222 (52 - 61.1%) -- 96.1% chance to 2HKO after Grassy Terrain recovery
  405. (15:26:23) Azumarill: 252 Atk Choice Band Kartana Leaf Blade vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Hawlucha in Grassy Terrain: 269-317 (90.5 - 106.7%) -
  406. (15:26:24) away: anyway
  407. (15:26:44) Azumarill: 252 Atk Choice Band Kartana Leaf Blade vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Zygarde in Grassy Terrain: 360-424 (100.5 - 118.4%) -- guara
  408. (15:26:55) Azumarill: -1 252 Atk Choice Band Kartana Leaf Blade vs. 252 HP / 240+ Def Landorus-Therian in Grassy Terrain: 220-261 (57.5 - 68.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
  409. (15:27:21) Azumarill: 252 Atk Choice Band Kartana Leaf Blade vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Metagross-Mega in Grassy Terrain: 149-176 (49.5 - 58.4%) -- 69.1% chance to 2HKO after Grassy Terrain recovery
  410. (15:27:23) Azumarill: 2hkos
  411. (15:27:25) Azumarill: mega metagross
  412. (15:27:26) Azumarill: LOL
  413. (15:27:31) Azumarill: not that metagross mega is even ou
  414. (15:27:31) Azumarill: but
  415. (15:27:34) Azumarill: good example of
  416. (15:27:36) Azumarill: aids power
  417. (15:27:45) away: o
  418. (15:28:55) Azumarill: very much "yikes" territory
  419. (15:29:07) away: bulu slow no screens
  420. (15:29:17) away: and ok
  421. (15:29:17) away: lele is bs too making mega psychics broken
  422. (15:29:35) Azumarill: I mean
  423. (15:29:36) Azumarill: lele got
  424. (15:29:38) Azumarill: metagross banned
  425. (15:29:39) Azumarill: you see
  426. (15:29:42) Azumarill: they werent going to
  427. (15:29:45) Azumarill: ban metagross mega first
  428. (15:29:47) Azumarill: but then
  429. (15:29:51) away: alakazam medicham gardevoir
  430. (15:29:52) Azumarill: someone started spamming it with
  431. (15:29:56) away: gallade
  432. (15:29:57) Azumarill: lele and
  433. (15:30:00) Azumarill: zen headbutt
  434. (15:30:20) Azumarill: and 8 people changed their vote real quick
  435. (15:30:44) Azumarill: also bulu actually
  436. (15:30:45) Azumarill: learns screen
  437. (15:30:49) Azumarill: if you are into that
  438. (15:30:59) Azumarill: but why even bother when you can just run band or sub 3 attack
  439. (15:31:00) Azumarill: lol!
  440. (15:31:22) away: or right
  441. (15:31:24) Azumarill: also
  442. (15:31:26) Azumarill: kartana
  443. (15:31:28) Azumarill: doesnt need screen
  444. (15:31:29) Azumarill: sicne its not
  445. (15:31:31) Azumarill: setting up
  446. (15:31:33) Azumarill: its spamming leaf blade
  447. (15:31:40) away: kartana doesn't need to set up
  448. (15:31:43) Azumarill: also its defensive stats mean it doesnt need screen
  449. (15:31:48) Azumarill: it will easily live physical
  450. (15:31:54) Azumarill: and it will faint to spa even with light screen
  451. (15:32:19) Azumarill: cancer speed tier doesnt help either
  452. (15:32:20) Azumarill: 109 speed
  453. (15:32:22) Azumarill: so just
  454. (15:32:22) away: ok
  455. (15:32:24) Azumarill: jump on
  456. (15:32:28) Azumarill: 5 fighting mon
  457. (15:32:31) Azumarill: that would check it
  458. (15:32:54) Azumarill: and unless infernape has vacuum wave it loses badly now
  459. (15:32:57) Azumarill: and by badly I mean
  460. (15:32:58) Azumarill: 252 Atk Choice Band Kartana Leaf Blade vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Infernape in Grassy Terrain: 279-329 (95.2 - 112.2%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO after Grassy Terrain recovery
  461. (15:32:58) away: 1) electric +rain+hawlucha+magearna
  462. (15:33:00) Azumarill: getting ohkod
  463. (15:33:05) Azumarill: by a resisted move
  464. (15:33:52) Azumarill: even if you fodder something
  465. (15:33:56) Azumarill: you need o send a very bulky reisst
  466. (15:33:57) Azumarill: +1 252 Atk Choice Band Kartana Leaf Blade vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Marowak-Alola in Grassy Terrain: 293-345 (90.7 - 106.8%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO after Grassy Terrain recovery
  467. (15:34:06) away: 2) grass + hawlucha + magearna something
  468. (15:34:07) Azumarill: becuase marowak is ko'd by leaf blade after a beast boost
  469. (15:34:38) Azumarill: and to think marowak is known for is high def
  470. (15:34:40) Azumarill: lol!
  471. (15:34:41) away: 3) psychic + hawlucha + magearna
  472. (15:34:56) Azumarill: forgot kartana with grass
  473. (15:34:58) away: any good idea
  474. (15:35:09) away: yes
  475. (15:35:22) away: already got electric rain mix
  476. (15:35:25) Azumarill: medicham is
  477. (15:35:29) Azumarill: used to aids too
  478. (15:35:30) away: what about rest 2
  479. (15:35:43) Azumarill: it can power up either zen or t punch
  480. (15:35:44) Azumarill: with a tapu
  481. (15:35:47) away: not gallade?
  482. (15:35:54) Azumarill: well
  483. (15:35:57) Azumarill: you can use gallade
  484. (15:36:00) Azumarill: point of medi was
  485. (15:36:06) Azumarill: that with a terrain support
  486. (15:36:10) Azumarill: it doesnt even need to set up
  487. (15:36:18) away: medicham looks ... ugly
  488. (15:36:20) Azumarill: gallade is faster but sometimes need sd
  489. (15:36:45) away: never liked medicham
  490. (15:37:06) Azumarill: psychic also makes
  491. (15:37:08) Azumarill: libteral use of
  492. (15:37:12) Azumarill: prio weak mons
  493. (15:37:14) Azumarill: for sweeping
  494. (15:37:16) away: I remember I made gallade stole medicham's ability
  495. (15:37:18) Azumarill: since psy terrain block
  496. (15:37:24) away: fun
  497. (15:37:29) ±Dratini: Gallade can learn Skill Swap.
  498. (15:37:34) Azumarill: skill swap work on mega?
  499. (15:37:46) away: pure power mega gallade
  500. (15:37:55) away: ye
  501. (15:38:11) Azumarill: juice
  502. (15:38:14) Azumarill: anyway
  503. (15:38:28) Azumarill: 3 tapu
  504. (15:38:32) Azumarill: is 3 mon too many for ou
  505. (15:38:38) away: gallade is bulkier than medicham
  506. (15:38:48) Azumarill: and even if tapu didnt exist it had other aids to deal with
  507. (15:38:51) Azumarill: on top of stupid bans
  508. (15:38:55) Azumarill: so ou can burn for all I care
  509. (15:39:05) away: lol!
  510. (15:39:11) away: still
  511. (15:39:13) away: need
  512. (15:39:34) away: to kill ou tours for stones
  513. (15:39:56) away: so electric+rain is 1
  514. (15:40:04) Azumarill: I am legit too lazy to make more
  515. (15:40:05) away: grass+??
  516. (15:40:06) Azumarill: but you can try
  517. (15:40:08) Azumarill: sure
  518. (15:40:15) away: :c
  519. (15:40:20) away: I cant alone
  520. (15:40:30) Azumarill: elec atm loses to literally a total of 2 way
  521. (15:40:39) Azumarill: and ou is just
  522. (15:40:41) Azumarill: 2 day per month
  523. (15:40:47) Azumarill: so idk if effort is worth
  524. (15:41:04) Azumarill: building in ou is already hard since you need to BEAT OTHERS WHO USE THE SAME THINGS
  525. (15:41:06) away: well all that
  526. (15:41:09) Azumarill: >beating 5 broken mon
  527. (15:41:16) Azumarill: that itself is hard
  528. (15:41:23) Azumarill: my team beat psy but loses to grass spam
  529. (15:41:27) Azumarill: cba fixing
  530. (15:41:31) Azumarill: anyway hawlucha is
  531. (15:41:36) Azumarill: okay ish vs grass
  532. (15:41:37) away: broken mon convo made me want to build
  533. (15:41:42) Azumarill: o
  534. (15:42:11) away: grass mix with?
  535. (15:42:23) Azumarill: with as in?
  536. (15:42:33) away: weather or something
  537. (15:42:52) Azumarill: can use with rain to fix fire weakness
  538. (15:43:11) Azumarill: hawlucha kartana tapu bulu pelipper swift swimmer filler
  539. (15:43:30) away: magearna
  540. (15:43:31) Azumarill: since 4/5 mon are weak to hurricane spam
  541. (15:43:34) Azumarill: you can use magearna as last
  542. (15:43:41) Azumarill: checks flying and
  543. (15:43:53) Azumarill: is a broken sweeper itself if you need another broken sweeper for some reason lol!
  544. (15:44:06) away: magearna in all
  545. (15:44:33) away: to kill possible counters
  546. (15:44:41) Azumarill: "what counter"
  547. (15:44:49) away: of grass + rain
  548. (15:44:54) Azumarill: which is ?
  549. (15:44:57) Azumarill: dragons I guess
  550. (15:44:59) Azumarill: so kingdra
  551. (15:45:14) Azumarill: and ice beam on pelipper maybe
  552. (15:45:16) away: or just kill w/e is left
  553. (15:45:20) Azumarill: well you
  554. (15:45:21) Azumarill: auto stall
  555. (15:45:46) Azumarill: with the bs kartana
  556. (15:45:56) Azumarill: but if i seem
  557. (15:45:59) Azumarill: still a bit stall weak
  558. (15:46:02) Azumarill: for some reason
  559. (15:46:06) Azumarill: then calm mind magearna
  560. (15:46:10) Azumarill: with fightnium z
  561. (15:46:12) away: you just said above how magearna helps in team work
  562. (15:46:14) Azumarill: to rub it in on stall
  563. (15:46:27) Azumarill: yes
  564. (15:46:31) Azumarill: doesnt even need to be shift gear
  565. (15:46:46) Azumarill: calm mind focus blast fightnium z
  566. (15:46:48) Azumarill: to murder stall
  567. (15:46:59) Azumarill: offense is expected to lose to hawucha and rain
  568. (15:47:05) Azumarill: balance loses to bulu spamming wood hammer
  569. (15:47:16) away: swift swim is kingdra?
  570. (15:47:22) Azumarill: idk
  571. (15:47:24) Azumarill: swamp has sr
  572. (15:47:27) Azumarill: kingdra beat dragons
  573. (15:47:31) Azumarill: I think kingdra is better
  574. (15:47:33) Azumarill: a little
  575. (15:47:44) away: o
  576. (15:48:00) away: seismitoad has sr too
  577. (15:48:01) away: ok
  578. (15:48:13) away: and third psychics?
  579. (15:48:23) Azumarill: tapu lelouch
  580. (15:48:28) away: psychic mix with?
  581. (15:48:29) Azumarill: medicham
  582. (15:48:30) Azumarill: hawlucha
  583. (15:48:38) Azumarill: erm
  584. (15:48:41) away: ugh medicham
  585. (15:48:43) Azumarill: idk it mix with less
  586. (15:48:46) Azumarill: but it hurts more things easily
  587. (15:49:15) Azumarill: there is
  588. (15:49:17) away: volcarona
  589. (15:49:26) Azumarill: literally 0 ou legal mon
  590. (15:49:30) Azumarill: that hard counter those 3
  591. (15:49:31) Azumarill: at once
  592. (15:49:32) Azumarill: lol!
  593. (15:49:53) Azumarill: so you can get creative
  594. (15:49:58) Azumarill: thousands of options
  595. (15:49:59) Azumarill: char x
  596. (15:50:01) Azumarill: zygarde
  597. (15:50:03) Azumarill: magearna
  598. (15:50:06) Azumarill: greninja
  599. (15:50:07) away: can't I use gallade
  600. (15:50:08) Azumarill: kartana
  601. (15:50:09) Azumarill: rain
  602. (15:50:09) Azumarill: sun
  603. (15:50:12) Azumarill: gallade
  604. (15:50:16) Azumarill: alakazam
  605. (15:50:18) Azumarill: sand
  606. (15:50:24) Azumarill: anything aids you like
  607. (15:50:26) away: oh
  608. (15:50:47) Azumarill: mimikyu maybe
  609. (15:50:47) Azumarill: since
  610. (15:50:55) Azumarill: medi and lele already murder stall
  611. (15:51:00) away: don't make me pick pls
  612. (15:51:01) away: ill
  613. (15:51:01) away: mess up
  614. (15:51:04) Azumarill: or even
  615. (15:51:09) Azumarill: koko and
  616. (15:51:13) Azumarill: a elec
  617. (15:51:18) Azumarill: double terrain
  618. (15:51:23) Azumarill: medi get zen and t punch boost
  619. (15:51:30) Azumarill: hawlucha uses 1 of the 2 terrain
  620. (15:51:36) Azumarill: xurkitree z hypno
  621. (15:51:38) away: gallade has leaf blade
  622. (15:51:46) Azumarill: with gallade
  623. (15:51:47) Azumarill: a nd
  624. (15:51:48) Azumarill: bulu
  625. (15:51:52) Azumarill: and kartana
  626. (15:51:54) Azumarill: works
  627. (15:52:11) Azumarill: more terrain induced ou aids
  628. (15:52:15) Azumarill: +2 leaf blade ko mega sableye
  629. (15:52:17) away: gallade also has thunder punch
  630. (15:52:59) away: I need help with sets
  631. (15:53:25) away: noidea what lele run
  632. (15:53:43) away: specs
  633. (15:53:47) away: scarf
  634. (15:53:54) away: extender
  635. (15:53:56) away: eject
  636. (15:53:59) away: idk
  637. (15:54:56) Azumarill: o
  638. (15:55:00) Azumarill: what
  639. (15:55:01) Azumarill: it can run
  640. (15:55:02) Azumarill: anything
  641. (15:55:03) Azumarill: like
  642. (15:55:04) Azumarill: scarf
  643. (15:55:05) Azumarill: specs
  644. (15:55:08) Azumarill: terrain extendal
  645. (15:55:15) Azumarill: psychium z
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