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[23:35] <Michelle> You both advance 30ft undetected
[23:36] <Michelle> It would be difficult to advance further without attracting notice.
[23:36] <Ikiryo> 2 Ranks + 3 Class + 3 Stat + 2 Train +3 Familiar = 13 bonus. So my bad. 26
[23:36] <Ikiryo> *+2 trait
[23:37] <Michelle> Lovi 30
[23:37] <Michelle> Ieva 30
[23:37] <Michelle> Axe 70
[23:37] <Michelle> Flail 70
[23:38] <Michelle> They're watchful, so I'll say you're limited to a standard action on your surprise round.
[23:39] <Michelle> This includes Charge as long as you only move up to your movement.
[23:39] <Ikiryo> ...well, that's me not able to do anything in my suprise round.
[23:39] <Ikiryo> They are out of short range.
[23:40] <Ikiryo> Which is what all my spells and hexes work at.
[23:40] <Michelle> Should probably pick up a ranged weapon of some kind.
[23:41] <Wolfgang> some kind of
[23:41] <Wolfgang> low weight weapon
[23:41] <Wolfgang> that fires bolts
[23:41] <Michelle> A sling at least.  They're free and weightless, except for the ammunition.  1d4-1 isn't much but it's not nothing.
[23:41] <Ikiryo> It's statisticly worse than ray of frost for me
[23:41] <Ikiryo> As it's 1/1/2/3
[23:42] <Ikiryo> Rather than 1/2/3
[23:42] <Michelle> 1d4-1 is 1d4-1 more than 0 at ranges greater than 30ft.
[23:42] <DiceMaid-9001> Michelle, is 1d4-1 more than 0 at ranges greater than 30ft.: 0 [1d4=1]
[23:42] <Wolfgang> no
[23:42] <Wolfgang> it is not
[23:42] <Wolfgang> :P
[23:42] <SpaceThor> thank you dicemaid
[23:42] <Ikiryo> I didn't expect stealth to just sort of fail at 40ft
[23:42] <Michelle> Wolfgang, shooting?
[23:43] <Ikiryo> I'm not going to act in the suprise round. I'm going to stay hidden. This way I still can't fight but at least they can't shiv me back.
[23:43] <Michelle> k
[23:44] <Avery> Yeah, the whole point of stealth is "remaining undetected without attracting notice"
[23:44] <Ikiryo> And I'm SODDING GOOD at it.
[23:44] <Wolfgang> I can start engaging and distract them for you
[23:45] <Ikiryo> Actually: Readied action. First enemy to enter 30ft catches slumber to the face.
[23:45] <Ikiryo> It's the best of both worlds. Not breaking stealth AND getting to do something.
[23:45] <Avery> I will shoot and draw them out of position
[23:46] <Avery> Our just use like intimidate
[23:46] <Avery> Or*
[23:46] <Michelle> I'm sure that at some point, when it's not midday and you aren't trying to sneak up on two competent guards watching the approach to their position you'll be able to sneak up really close to people.
[23:46] <SpaceThor> i'll javelin someone
[23:46] <Michelle> Until then, I advise taking ten levels in Rogue and getting Hide in Plain Sight if you want to hide in plain sight.