Quick glance on botting

Channel Sarquas saved at Thu Jun 14 17:36:27 2012
16:41 Escalatorxck [32]: nope
16:41 Sarquas [11]: ah
16:41 Sarquas [11]: i think u can void  ur order
16:41 Escalatorxck [32]: I know matadore, gracias and bueno though
16:41 Sarquas [11]: xD
16:41 Escalatorxck [32]: i didnt order yet
16:42 Escalatorxck [32]: i want to order but amount:6 for example
16:42 Escalatorxck [32]: dont know how
16:42 Sarquas [11]: ummm
16:42 Escalatorxck [32]: w/e i just order it 6x times
16:42 Escalatorxck [32]: ;d
16:42 Escalatorxck [32]: nvm
16:42 Sarquas [11]: i think u must do it
16:43 Sarquas [11]: in the "first web"
16:43 Sarquas [11]: before paypal
16:43 Sarquas [11]: at where u are buying
16:43 Escalatorxck [32]: u cant
16:43 Escalatorxck [32]: they only have one option
16:43 Sarquas [11]: puaj
16:43 Sarquas [11]: maybe in paypal
16:44 Escalatorxck [32]: w/e, i order one and see
16:44 Escalatorxck [32]: ;d
16:44 Sarquas [11]: jejej
16:44 Escalatorxck [32]: btw u need any eq?
16:44 Sarquas [11]: ye
16:44 Sarquas [11]: xD
16:44 Escalatorxck [32]: hmm let me see
16:44 Escalatorxck [32]: what is your weapon?
16:44 Sarquas [11]: spike
16:44 Sarquas [11]: beholder
16:44 Sarquas [11]: xD
16:45 Escalatorxck [32]: hmm eq?
16:45 Escalatorxck [32]: plate?
16:45 Sarquas [11]: 16:45 You see a spike sword (Atk:24, Def:21 +2).
16:45 Sarquas [11]: noble armor
16:45 Escalatorxck [32]: legs?
16:45 Sarquas [11]: p legs
16:45 Escalatorxck [32]: ah i think u dont need anything
16:45 Sarquas [11]: jejeje
16:45 Escalatorxck [32]: i would have sent you plate set + dwarven shield and spike sword
16:45 Escalatorxck [32]: ^^
16:46 Sarquas [11]: :P
16:46 Sarquas [11]: i have a elder druid here
16:46 Sarquas [11]: but i forget the account
16:46 Sarquas [11]: inf ew days
16:46 Sarquas [11]: i will have the password
16:46 Escalatorxck [32]: ^^
16:46 Escalatorxck [32]: lv?
16:46 Sarquas [11]: 70
16:46 Sarquas [11]: but i dont know if i want play druid or this kngiht
16:46 Sarquas [11]: 79 skill xD
16:47 Escalatorxck [32]: ;o
16:47 Escalatorxck [32]: not bad
16:47 Sarquas [11]: i have a question
16:47 Sarquas [11]: have i got blessings?
16:47 Escalatorxck [32]: my 58 knight has 64 sword
16:47 Escalatorxck [32]: no u dont
16:47 Escalatorxck [32]: :p
16:47 Sarquas [11]: no?
16:47 Sarquas [11]: can i buy?
16:47 Escalatorxck [32]: yes
16:47 Escalatorxck [32]: u can buy 4 facc bless
16:47 Escalatorxck [32]: u cant buy fifth because it is at edron
16:47 Sarquas [11]: where
16:48 Sarquas [11]: ah
16:48 Escalatorxck [32]: north of carlin
16:48 Sarquas [11]: but
16:48 Escalatorxck [32]: south east of ab
16:48 Escalatorxck [32]: inside kazo
16:48 Escalatorxck [32]: south of thais
16:48 Sarquas [11]: i think all bless buy in the same site now
16:48 Escalatorxck [32]: only if u have inquisition done
16:48 Sarquas [11]: ah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
16:48 Escalatorxck [32]: which u obviouslt didnt cuz u aint 100+ yet
16:48 Sarquas [11]: xDDDD
16:49 Sarquas [11]: 5 bless = aol too?
16:49 Escalatorxck [32]: nope
16:49 Escalatorxck [32]: 5 bless  > aol
16:49 Sarquas [11]: ok
16:49 Escalatorxck [32]: cuz bless lower how much u lose in skills/exp too
16:49 Escalatorxck [32]: but aol only items
16:50 Escalatorxck [32]: there was a free blessings period
16:50 Escalatorxck [32]: till like 1 week ago
16:50 Escalatorxck [32]: u are just unlucky ;p
16:50 Sarquas [11]: xD
16:51 Sarquas [11]: have u got high lvls friends?
16:52 Escalatorxck [32]: i used too
16:52 Escalatorxck [32]: now i am alone
16:52 Escalatorxck [32]: used to*
16:52 Escalatorxck [32]: server is dead as u see
16:52 Escalatorxck [32]: no one left
16:52 Escalatorxck [32]: xd
16:53 Sarquas [11]: but..
16:53 Sarquas [11]: all server are die?
16:53 Sarquas [11]: tibia die?
16:53 Escalatorxck [32]: xerena does for sure
16:53 Escalatorxck [32]: but some other servers are ok
16:53 Escalatorxck [32]: like solera/silvera/shivera
16:54 Escalatorxck [32]: having 400-500 players and they are pvp
16:54 Sarquas [11]: aurera 785
16:54 Sarquas [11]: is new server?
16:54 Escalatorxck [32]: yes
16:54 Escalatorxck [32]: aurora and aurera
16:54 Escalatorxck [32]: made yesterday
16:54 Sarquas [11]: ah new servers..
16:54 Sarquas [11]: xD
16:54 Escalatorxck [32]: that's why so many players ^^
16:54 Sarquas [11]: is a stupid.. have a server to 125 persons
16:54 Sarquas [11]: i think is better delete some server
16:55 Escalatorxck [32]: many ppl said that
16:55 Escalatorxck [32]: merge low servers together
16:55 Escalatorxck [32]: but i dont care, i will get lvl 120 on my paladin
16:55 Escalatorxck [32]: and transfer
16:55 Escalatorxck [32]: to antica maybe, antica still has good players
16:55 Sarquas [12]: where is ur paladin
16:55 Escalatorxck [32]: here on xerena
16:56 Sarquas [12]: hunted or something'
16:56 Escalatorxck [32]: hunted by boredom
16:56 Escalatorxck [32]: ^^
16:57 Sarquas [12]: doesnt exist
16:57 Sarquas [12]: boredm?
16:57 Escalatorxck [32]: lol
16:57 Escalatorxck [32]: i mean boredom
16:57 Escalatorxck [32]: like having boredom
16:57 Sarquas [12]: hahahahhhaha
16:57 Escalatorxck [32]: i am not hunted by players
16:57 Escalatorxck [32]: but i leave cuz it's boring here
16:57 Escalatorxck [32]: ^^
16:58 Sarquas [12]: my real friends lukh eltod was playing here
16:59 Sarquas [12]: do u know him?
16:59 Escalatorxck [32]: nope
16:59 Escalatorxck [32]: lvl?
16:59 Sarquas [12]: 123
16:59 Sarquas [12]: sorc
17:00 Sarquas [12]: but he has gone to inferna
17:00 Sarquas [12]: sicario lord nanis was friends of him
17:00 Sarquas [12]: i think they have moved too
17:01 Escalatorxck [32]: hmm i dont know either of them ^^
17:01 Sarquas [12]: they are old players
17:02 Escalatorxck [32]: i play xerena only since 1 year
17:03 Sarquas [12]: ahhhh
17:03 Sarquas [12]: with my skill
17:03 Sarquas [12]: 1 hit and all die xD
17:04 Escalatorxck [32]: ^^
17:04 Escalatorxck [32]: i was too lazy to skill my knight
17:04 Escalatorxck [32]: skilled my pally instead
17:05 Escalatorxck [32]: skills 93/84 now
17:05 Sarquas [12]: jur
17:05 Sarquas [12]: gj
17:05 Escalatorxck [32]: :p
17:05 Sarquas [12]: i dont know
17:05 Sarquas [12]: if  i play few days
17:05 Sarquas [12]: and i will leave in 2 weeks..
17:05 Sarquas [12]: i dont know why i have returned tibia xD
17:06 Sarquas [12]: i am bored in rl
17:06 Sarquas [12]: xD
17:10 Escalatorxck [32]: :p
17:10 Sarquas [12]: :P
17:10 Sarquas [12]: are  hunting?
17:10 Escalatorxck [32]: me?
17:10 Sarquas [12]: are u hunting?
17:10 Sarquas [12]: ye
17:11 Escalatorxck [32]: i never hunt
17:11 Sarquas [12]: never? xD
17:11 Escalatorxck [32]: jap didnt do any real hunts since january maybe
17:11 Escalatorxck [32]: this is char just for deposit
17:11 Escalatorxck [32]: i put my money here, my items
17:11 Sarquas [12]: is bored to do lootbag xd
17:12 Escalatorxck [32]: i remember once i got a lvl 20 to pay me 3k for not getting hunted xd
17:12 Sarquas [12]: haaahahahahahahah
17:12 Escalatorxck [32]: that was really fun, i was joking the guy came kazo dp and i tol him on this char, dude u are hunted as joke
17:12 Escalatorxck [32]: he believed it and didnt want to leave dp
17:12 Escalatorxck [32]: so i brought my lvl 80 char to scare him
17:12 Sarquas [12]: xDDD
17:13 Escalatorxck [32]: the guy did wait in dp for half an hour
17:13 Escalatorxck [32]: thinking i will get bored
17:13 Sarquas [12]: jajajjajajajajajajja
17:13 Sarquas [12]: i would do same xD
17:13 Escalatorxck [32]: at end he wrote letter and showed it to me with name of my both chars and saying his friends will hunt me
17:13 Escalatorxck [32]: i told him do it, we started on 10k and negotiated down to 3k
17:14 Escalatorxck [32]: or 5 dunno anymore
17:14 Sarquas [12]: jajjajaja
17:14 Escalatorxck [32]: he paid me 5k and i left him go out of dp
17:14 Escalatorxck [32]: xd
17:14 Sarquas [12]: expensive joke to him xD
17:14 Escalatorxck [32]: last time i saw him he ran to pz
17:14 Escalatorxck [32]: ^^
17:14 Sarquas [12]: jajjajajajaja
17:14 Escalatorxck [32]: but he doesnt play anymore i think
17:14 Escalatorxck [32]: but i gave him the 5k back
17:14 Escalatorxck [32]: felt bad to abuse noobs
17:14 Sarquas [12]: ohhh
17:14 Escalatorxck [32]: he is just too noob xd
17:15 Escalatorxck [32]: i should abuse other ppl better
17:15 Escalatorxck [32]: i think ;d
17:15 Sarquas [12]: ;)
17:17 Sarquas [12]: i have ek 100 in secura
17:17 Escalatorxck [32]: i hate non pvp
17:17 Escalatorxck [32]: from heart
17:17 Sarquas [12]: isnt mine
17:18 Sarquas [12]: is a present of friend
17:18 Sarquas [12]: he up the char with caveboot
17:18 Sarquas [12]: never enter
17:18 Sarquas [12]: only caveboot xD
17:18 Escalatorxck [32]: ;p
17:18 Escalatorxck [32]: on non-pvp it's easy like hell
17:19 Sarquas [12]: i see xD
17:19 Escalatorxck [32]: i got pics of my char dying
17:19 Escalatorxck [32]: here no one leaves u alone
17:19 Escalatorxck [32]: xd
17:19 Sarquas [12]: here bots?
17:19 Sarquas [12]: or
17:19 Escalatorxck [32]: what u mean?
17:19 Sarquas [12]: do bots works in tibia now?
17:19 Escalatorxck [32]: well i shouldnt tell you that ofc
17:19 Escalatorxck [32]: but ofc they do ;d
17:20 Sarquas [12]: but bans works?
17:20 Escalatorxck [32]: depends
17:20 Escalatorxck [32]: i could tell you a lot about bot detection
17:20 Escalatorxck [32]: but i doubt u are interested
17:20 Sarquas [12]: i am xD
17:20 Escalatorxck [32]: well listen
17:21 Escalatorxck [32]: there are 4 types of bots
17:21 Escalatorxck [32]: 1. memory editing ones
17:21 Escalatorxck [32]: 2. packet proxying ones
17:21 Escalatorxck [32]: 3. keyboard/mouse emulating ones
17:21 Escalatorxck [32]: 4. code injecting ones
17:21 Sarquas [12]: !!
17:21 Escalatorxck [32]: number 1 bots arent developed anymore cuz they are difficult to maintain after every update
17:22 Escalatorxck [32]: number 2 bots like tibia auto emulate tibia protocol and send packets to server like client does
17:22 Escalatorxck [32]: but after update packet might change, and TA doesn't know
17:22 Escalatorxck [32]: so what happens?
17:22 Escalatorxck [32]: u answer
17:22 Sarquas [12]: what happens
17:22 Escalatorxck [32]: ban
17:23 Escalatorxck [32]: if someone uses a command called 7E which doesnt exist after update
17:23 Escalatorxck [32]: what does that mean? that means this is an out-dated bot
17:23 Escalatorxck [32]: so most bans affect proxy bots
17:23 Escalatorxck [32]: lets move on type 3 and type 4
17:23 Escalatorxck [32]: type 3 means that bot uses mouse and keyboard
17:23 Escalatorxck [32]: just like you do
17:24 Sarquas [12]: is better, no?
17:24 Escalatorxck [32]: it is
17:24 Escalatorxck [32]: but think about this
17:24 Escalatorxck [32]: if u put 3 parcels under you
17:24 Escalatorxck [32]: u appear to be 1 step to the northwest
17:24 Escalatorxck [32]: right?
17:24 Sarquas [12]: ye
17:24 Escalatorxck [32]: so get white skull on friend
17:24 Escalatorxck [32]: and put 3 parcels
17:24 Escalatorxck [32]: south east of corpse
17:25 Escalatorxck [32]: and wait bot to open dead monster
17:25 Escalatorxck [32]: he will right click you
17:25 Escalatorxck [32]: and u can kill him without unjust
17:25 Escalatorxck [32]: ^^
17:25 Sarquas [12]: interesting xD
17:25 Escalatorxck [32]: ofc this is old trick
17:25 Sarquas [12]: but secure mode?
17:25 Escalatorxck [32]: no you have white skull
17:25 Sarquas [12]: ah yeah
17:25 Escalatorxck [32]: there are better tricks
17:25 Escalatorxck [32]: ofc
17:25 Escalatorxck [32]: for example
17:26 Escalatorxck [32]: make bot rs
17:26 Escalatorxck [32]: and so on
17:26 Escalatorxck [32]: btu that's not question now
17:26 Sarquas [12]: ye xD
17:26 Escalatorxck [32]: ok understood what is wrong with type 3?
17:26 Sarquas [12]: whats wrong!?
17:26 Sarquas [12]: ye
17:26 Sarquas [12]: xD
17:26 Escalatorxck [32]: u can scam it for skull
17:26 Escalatorxck [32]: but mouse and keyboard works always
17:26 Escalatorxck [32]: and that's what makes it easy to update
17:27 Sarquas [13]: and type 4?
17:27 Escalatorxck [32]: after update u only change addresses of hp, mana, etc in bot
17:27 Escalatorxck [32]: and it works
17:27 Escalatorxck [32]: type 4 is code injection
17:27 Escalatorxck [32]: u ever programmed?
17:27 Sarquas [13]: no
17:27 Sarquas [13]: not really
17:27 Sarquas [13]: script of linux
17:28 Escalatorxck [32]: u know what a function is ?
17:28 Escalatorxck [32]: in programming?
17:28 Sarquas [13]: yes
17:28 Escalatorxck [32]: like print("Hello") ?
17:28 Escalatorxck [32]: well, tibia programmers made function in tibia
17:28 Escalatorxck [32]: like SelfSay("1", "Hello")
17:28 Escalatorxck [32]: this makes u say hi
17:28 Sarquas [13]: ok
17:28 Escalatorxck [32]: or Move(x,y,z)
17:28 Escalatorxck [32]: this makes u move
17:29 Escalatorxck [32]: but this is inside tibia code
17:29 Escalatorxck [32]: and not accessible by default
17:29 Escalatorxck [32]: BUT if u use unmanaged code and know a lot about assembly and debugging
17:29 Escalatorxck [32]: u can use functions of tibia
17:29 Escalatorxck [32]: so you use OpenContainer(x,y,z) instead of right-click
17:29 Escalatorxck [32]: which makes chances to trap you very low
17:29 Escalatorxck [32]: ok?
17:30 Sarquas [13]: yee
17:30 Escalatorxck [32]: but problem is
17:30 Escalatorxck [32]: after update you have to do a lot again
17:30 Escalatorxck [32]: search for functions, where they are now
17:30 Escalatorxck [32]: cuz in assembly they have no names
17:30 Sarquas [13]: i know
17:30 Escalatorxck [32]: but something like 0x0EF89CD
17:30 Sarquas [13]: yeee
17:30 Escalatorxck [32]: which changes after every update
17:30 Sarquas [13]: u need dumper of memory?
17:30 Escalatorxck [32]: not exactly
17:31 Escalatorxck [32]: u need to use a debugger
17:31 Escalatorxck [32]: and say somehting on tibia and make breakpoint
17:31 Escalatorxck [32]: and say again and so on
17:31 Sarquas [13]: ufff
17:31 Escalatorxck [32]: well it's quite long so dont bother
17:31 Escalatorxck [32]: so let's sum all up:
17:31 Escalatorxck [32]: type 1: none use this only, but they use it for reading health, mana etc.
17:32 Escalatorxck [32]: type 2: this will get you ban surely, cuz they just cant keep up with tibia and send packets that doesnt exist anymore
17:32 Escalatorxck [32]: type 3: excellent choice cuz controlling character doesnt change after udpate but problem is players can make you skull
17:33 Escalatorxck [32]: type 4: best there is, but u got a problem: very much work after each update
17:33 Escalatorxck [32]: ok?
17:33 Sarquas [13]: ok
17:33 Escalatorxck [32]: so what does tibia detect?
17:33 Escalatorxck [32]: tibia detects if u hunt each time like u did before always step on same tiles (waypoints)
17:34 Escalatorxck [32]: so, programs just keep a dynamic range
17:34 Sarquas [13]: i did it
17:34 Escalatorxck [32]: so u each time pass waypoint on -2:2 tiles
17:34 Escalatorxck [32]: not each time same
17:34 Sarquas [13]: when i used bot, i use waypoints each 2 sqm, with 2 sqm of random
17:34 Escalatorxck [32]: ;p
17:34 Sarquas [13]: hard work
17:34 Sarquas [13]: but was random
17:34 Escalatorxck [32]: also u shouldnt use exact map clicking
17:35 Escalatorxck [32]: because no human can click on minimap 100% correct
17:35 Escalatorxck [32]: for a hunt 300~ times
17:35 Escalatorxck [32]: so you have to click a little random too or best thing is
17:35 Escalatorxck [32]: dont use minimap at all
17:35 Sarquas [13]: ajam
17:35 Sarquas [13]: and
17:35 Escalatorxck [32]: and ofc most important thing, NEVER send anything to tibia server if you are not 100% sure it's right
17:36 Escalatorxck [32]: cuz wrong packet to tibia server = ban
17:36 Escalatorxck [32]: wrong packet to client = crash
17:36 Escalatorxck [32]: that's all of it
17:36 Escalatorxck [32]: u learned something new?
17:36 Sarquas [13]: a lot