[01/04/2017 20:12:48] *** Dbuffed | Premium Services & Marketing added Kyle | pixade.org, Seraphic ***
[01/04/2017 20:12:54] Dbuffed | 1500+ feedback/vouches and growing!: yo, this is pixades owner
[01/04/2017 20:13:17] Kyle | pixade.org: Sup mate
[01/04/2017 20:20:33] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: Hi
[01/04/2017 20:20:59] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: Sorry lol I just got back home
[01/04/2017 20:21:07] Kyle | pixade.org: No worries. Riding in a car
[01/04/2017 20:21:09] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: Ok
[01/04/2017 20:21:14] Kyle | pixade.org: :)
[01/04/2017 20:21:16] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: let me know when you yourself get home
[01/04/2017 20:22:26] Kyle | pixade.org: We can chat now.
[01/04/2017 20:23:39] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: ok 1 sec
[01/04/2017 21:55:48] Kyle | pixade.org: Hey DBuffed.
[01/04/2017 22:01:53] Kyle | pixade.org: Seraphic said he wanted to help with Pixade. You mentioned to me about some issues that he seemed to have on OSBot. Just was wonder if we could get that sorted here.

Seraphic, DBuffed is my community manager. He has nearly about much a say in things I do, but he's more involved with other communities as well. So he kinda gets to know what's going on in other sites. I need to know what is going on over there before we continue. So if you don't mind laying out your side of things
[01/04/2017 22:08:29] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: Yeah I did
[01/04/2017 22:08:32] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: let me explain what happened
[01/04/2017 22:08:34] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: one second
[01/04/2017 22:08:37] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: let me copy+paste chat
[01/04/2017 22:08:42] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: I had with someone
[01/04/2017 22:08:52] Kyle | pixade.org: Sure
[01/04/2017 22:10:14] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: never mind couldn’t find it but I’ll explain it fully
[01/04/2017 22:16:00] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: I used a signature that said “OSBot Staff Verified”. It kept getting removed by the moderator called Saiyan so I replaced my signature to “Saiyan is a homosexual”. He warned me to remove it via PM so I did. I told him to stop removing my signature and he said to me that I was not allowed to use it. I told Saiyan get Maldesto to warn me via PM that I wasn’t allowed to use the OSBot staff verified signature. Maldesto then warned me for offensive language/harrassment for apparently harassing Saiyan when in fact Saiyan had warned me and I resolved the issue immediately. Anyway I got a day ban and I told Dex to PM Maldesto on why I got banned. This is what he had to say:

On 26/03/2017, at 21:48, Maldesto - wrote:
> He has been told not to put staff verified in his signature and he did a few times then he put saiyan is a homo. He knows why he was banned. He is a troll and it's getting annoying
He was told.by the different mods to stop and he wouldn't

This was a lie. There were no warnings issued to me saying I was not allowed to use that signature. There were no PM’s nor warnings on my account. After serving the 1 day ban, I reported Maldesto for abusing his power providing a lot of screenshots concluding Maldesto was abusing his power. Anyway, Maldesto saw my report and gave me a perm ban for reporting him. I have all the screenshots backed up in my Puush account for the ban reasons.
[01/04/2017 22:18:02] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: In fact I have screenshots for all the warnings I was issued, the only one that I got twice was spamming. All the other warnings are for various different reasons but none of the warnings are the same. There was no reason for me to spend around $125 to participate in Malicious activities. I was just using that forum to trade/mm on so I could apply for Middleman on the Dreambot forums.
[01/04/2017 22:19:04] Kyle | pixade.org: Cool. You might know more DBuffed... but I don't think that's much if an issue for me.
[01/04/2017 22:19:17] Kyle | pixade.org: To be frank, never liked maldesto
[01/04/2017 22:19:23] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: DBuffed also got banned on OSBot for BS reasons too
[01/04/2017 22:19:33] Kyle | pixade.org: Yea I know
[01/04/2017 22:19:38] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: The funniest part is
[01/04/2017 22:19:39] Kyle | pixade.org: I'm also banned on osbot :D
[01/04/2017 22:19:49] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: I contacted Maxi through various different ways
[01/04/2017 22:20:00] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: Email, Skype
[01/04/2017 22:20:11] Kyle | pixade.org: He won't respond.
[01/04/2017 22:20:16] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: even Laz, I called him a few times but 0 response
[01/04/2017 22:20:35] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: yeah he doesn’t respond.
[01/04/2017 22:20:49] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: I knew a guy called MGI from rune-server
[01/04/2017 22:20:56] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: he was the developer there
[01/04/2017 22:20:57] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: issue is
[01/04/2017 22:21:04] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: I asked him can he reverse the ban
[01/04/2017 22:21:11] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: this is what Mangis had to say
[01/04/2017 22:21:37] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: [29/03/2017, 22:02:36] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: I had my account on OSBot
[29/03/2017, 22:02:42] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: and I got suspended by Maldesto
[29/03/2017, 22:02:47] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: for filing a report against him
[29/03/2017, 22:02:55] Mangis: ok
[29/03/2017, 22:03:03] Mangis: and what do you expect me to do
[29/03/2017, 22:03:04] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: so I needed someone who could help reverse the ban.
[29/03/2017, 22:03:13] Mangis: see I don't handle these things
[01/04/2017 22:22:17] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: and as for Zach, I’ve asked various people for his Skype and to contact him but they also ignore too.
[01/04/2017 22:23:50] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: In fact it took me an extremely long time to research Maxi’s skype
[01/04/2017 22:24:21] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: and the only reason I got it was because basically I called for all Maxime Meires and the Netherlands and then googled each skype result
[01/04/2017 22:24:38] Kyle | pixade.org: The thing is, osbot is too huge to fail now
[01/04/2017 22:24:58] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: I’ve spoken to ex-staff there
[01/04/2017 22:25:14] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: they said back in 2013/2014 they had 5k members
[01/04/2017 22:25:20] Kyle | pixade.org: Ehm. is ex staff
[01/04/2017 22:25:34] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: in fact I took a quick look at Maxi’s linkedin
[01/04/2017 22:25:43] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: it says there OSBot made 500k in the first year.
[01/04/2017 22:25:51] Kyle | pixade.org: Im sure
[01/04/2017 22:25:57] Kyle | pixade.org: I was there when it was happening
[01/04/2017 22:26:05] Kyle | pixade.org: I was actually the first moderator on the site
[01/04/2017 22:26:13] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: who banned you?
[01/04/2017 22:26:25] Kyle | pixade.org: Katie/Mald
[01/04/2017 22:26:51] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: Kati leaked the database didn’t she?
[01/04/2017 22:26:56] Kyle | pixade.org: Yea
[01/04/2017 22:27:09] Kyle | pixade.org: I think anyways
[01/04/2017 22:27:10] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: I wonder what happened to Laz
[01/04/2017 22:27:15] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: he’s a member now
[01/04/2017 22:27:42] Kyle | pixade.org: Lots of guys there. I made some good friends from  there.
[01/04/2017 22:27:53] Kyle | pixade.org: Smart and rafleshia
[01/04/2017 22:28:19] Kyle | pixade.org: I tried to reach back out to them... they are no longer online really much anymore
[01/04/2017 22:28:32] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: hold on give me 1-2 minutes if thats ok?
[01/04/2017 22:28:34] Kyle | pixade.org: So i separated myself from the site.
[01/04/2017 22:28:35] Kyle | pixade.org: Sure
[01/04/2017 22:32:20] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: Yeah I know raflesia
[01/04/2017 22:32:55] Kyle | pixade.org: But I was young and made a mistake.
[01/04/2017 22:33:01] Kyle | pixade.org: Lead to my ban.
[01/04/2017 22:33:06] Kyle | pixade.org: Led*
[01/04/2017 22:33:08] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: what mistake?
[01/04/2017 22:33:33] Kyle | pixade.org: I've confessed to it before and I'm still using the same alias as before so it's kinda known outside if osbot.
[01/04/2017 22:33:36] Kyle | pixade.org: But
[01/04/2017 22:33:52] Kyle | pixade.org: I took $100 from someone and was supposed to hold on to it for a week or so
[01/04/2017 22:34:09] Kyle | pixade.org: It just so happened that I needed to buy books for school.
[01/04/2017 22:34:20] Kyle | pixade.org: Long story short I had no option but use that money
[01/04/2017 22:34:24] Kyle | pixade.org: And couldn't pay it back.
[01/04/2017 22:34:35] Kyle | pixade.org: So I "scam/quit"
[01/04/2017 22:34:46] Kyle | pixade.org: I came back when I had the money to pay it back
[01/04/2017 22:34:52] Kyle | pixade.org: But I can't find the guy anymore
[01/04/2017 22:35:12] Kyle | pixade.org: There's a lot more involved but I really don't wanna type it on my phone
[01/04/2017 22:35:15] Kyle | pixade.org: :)
[01/04/2017 22:36:04] Kyle | pixade.org: DBuffed can vouch haha
[01/04/2017 22:37:51] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: what was your osbot name?
[01/04/2017 22:37:57] Kyle | pixade.org: It was Kyle
[01/04/2017 22:38:03] Kyle | pixade.org: They changed it though.
[01/04/2017 22:38:19] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: at one point there was a guy called gh0st
[01/04/2017 22:38:28] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: who was banned by Maldesto
[01/04/2017 22:38:36] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: for not obeying his instructions.
[01/04/2017 22:39:06] Kyle | pixade.org: Well mald has some sort of a inferior man complex
[01/04/2017 22:39:39] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: wait what did they change your name to?
[01/04/2017 22:39:46] Kyle | pixade.org: Kyle1
[01/04/2017 22:39:49] Kyle | pixade.org: I think
[01/04/2017 22:39:57] Kyle | pixade.org: Not entirely sure. Been years haha
[01/04/2017 22:40:16] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: there is a kyle1
[01/04/2017 22:40:18] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: on there
[01/04/2017 22:40:21] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: it says suspended
[01/04/2017 22:40:30] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: last logged in september 20th 2013
[01/04/2017 22:40:32] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: and it says
[01/04/2017 22:40:42] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: skype is roxxygirl69
[01/04/2017 22:41:03] Kyle | pixade.org: Oh idk haha it's been a while
[01/04/2017 22:41:11] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: says birthday
[01/04/2017 22:41:16] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: 08/04/92
[01/04/2017 22:41:20] Kyle | pixade.org: Ooooo
[01/04/2017 22:41:25] Kyle | pixade.org: That's me
[01/04/2017 22:41:53] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: it says on July 18th 2013
[01/04/2017 22:42:20] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: "I can not wait for Knock Madness. Going to be off the hookkk”
[01/04/2017 22:42:32] Kyle | pixade.org: lol I do enjoy hops in
[01/04/2017 22:42:39] Kyle | pixade.org: Hopsin
[01/04/2017 22:43:47] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: there was a video posted to
[01/04/2017 22:44:01] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: of something called the Dyani and Sarah Show Episode 4.
[01/04/2017 22:46:07] Kyle | pixade.org: All I wanted was some pie man
[01/04/2017 22:46:39] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: but yeah but I didn’t know if that was you or not
[01/04/2017 22:46:51] Kyle | pixade.org: :)
[01/04/2017 22:46:58] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: Is that you?
[01/04/2017 22:46:59] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: Kyle1?
[01/04/2017 22:47:34] Kyle | pixade.org: True
[01/04/2017 22:47:37] Kyle | pixade.org: Yea
[01/04/2017 22:48:32] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: fortunately for myself I did some research
[01/04/2017 22:48:45] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: I found that Maldesto’s Skype was actually Chael_P_Sonnen
[01/04/2017 22:48:58] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: which is funny because he’s impersonating a famous person.
[01/04/2017 22:49:13] Kyle | pixade.org: Idk who that is haha
[01/04/2017 22:49:54] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: Well I believe his real name is Dustin. Not sure if that is true information based on previous reports.
[01/04/2017 22:50:11] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: If it is then yes he is impersonating Chael P Sonnen
[01/04/2017 22:50:57] Kyle | pixade.org: I worked on osbot for 10 months(ish) and never talked to the guy once
[01/04/2017 22:51:06] Kyle | pixade.org: Talked to Katie and she went to him
[01/04/2017 22:51:33] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: I thought Kati disliked Maldesto
[01/04/2017 22:51:55] Kyle | pixade.org: We never really enjoyed him. But he was good at what he did.
[01/04/2017 22:52:06] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: What did he do?
[01/04/2017 22:52:21] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: He’s kinda like the Hitler of OSBot now.
[01/04/2017 22:52:38] Kyle | pixade.org: He was the main developer on the bot
[01/04/2017 22:52:50] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: Wait Maldesto codes?
[01/04/2017 22:53:02] Kyle | pixade.org: That was my understanding back then
[01/04/2017 22:53:14] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: I found his linkedin
[01/04/2017 22:53:15] Kyle | pixade.org: He may not know
[01/04/2017 22:53:20] Kyle | pixade.org: Now*
[01/04/2017 22:53:27] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: he says he is the Web content administrator for osbot
[01/04/2017 22:53:43] Kyle | pixade.org: I know they hired someone to do the web development.
[01/04/2017 22:53:55] Kyle | pixade.org: Maybe he's picked up some stuff over the years
[01/04/2017 22:53:59] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: yeah but they have a few developers
[01/04/2017 22:54:15] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: they have Alek, Zach, MGI, Maxime
[01/04/2017 22:54:29] Kyle | pixade.org: Either way, it was him and another guy that were working on the bot when it stared can remember the name.
[01/04/2017 22:54:35] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: they also have Maldesto and Zach as Administrator
[01/04/2017 22:54:54] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: But I’m not even sure what Zach does as an admin
[01/04/2017 22:55:28] Kyle | pixade.org: In those situations you have to wonder if it's a paid for position.
[01/04/2017 22:55:45] Kyle | pixade.org: Like he "donated" a couple grand.
[01/04/2017 22:56:10] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: Wait so if you donate enough you can get administrator?
[01/04/2017 22:56:33] Kyle | pixade.org: I don't know. I said you just have to be curious in those situations.
[01/04/2017 22:56:45] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: Well I mean Maldesto gets paid
[01/04/2017 22:56:50] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: for being osbot admin
[01/04/2017 22:57:01] Kyle | pixade.org: Well he owns the show
[01/04/2017 22:57:05] Kyle | pixade.org: So I'd hope so
[01/04/2017 22:57:07] Kyle | pixade.org: Haha
[01/04/2017 22:57:20] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: As for developer
[01/04/2017 22:57:30] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: I thought they were given to people who can actually code.
[01/04/2017 22:58:46] Kyle | pixade.org: They do if their scripts are premium.
[01/04/2017 22:58:52] Kyle | pixade.org: They get a portion of the sales
[01/04/2017 22:59:08] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: but there is a key difference between scripters
[01/04/2017 22:59:10] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: and developers
[01/04/2017 22:59:38] Kyle | pixade.org: Well yea. One works in the bot and one one scripts. Pretty simple
[01/04/2017 22:59:40] Kyle | pixade.org: So for osbot though
[01/04/2017 22:59:53] Kyle | pixade.org: They can get people to donate bc they offer a service
[01/04/2017 23:00:00] Kyle | pixade.org: Pixade is different
[01/04/2017 23:00:04] Kyle | pixade.org: We offer a platform
[01/04/2017 23:00:21] Kyle | pixade.org: But, for people to want to come they need people to be here
[01/04/2017 23:00:32] Kyle | pixade.org: So let's say sythe goes down randomly
[01/04/2017 23:00:34] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: Pixade is similar to sythe in a sense
[01/04/2017 23:00:47] Kyle | pixade.org: Users look for something similar
[01/04/2017 23:00:53] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: theres no pixadebot
[01/04/2017 23:00:54] Kyle | pixade.org: But they see we have less user base
[01/04/2017 23:01:03] Kyle | pixade.org: Why would they want to come
[01/04/2017 23:01:09] Kyle | pixade.org: I need a user base.
[01/04/2017 23:01:14] Kyle | pixade.org: An active user base
[01/04/2017 23:01:21] Kyle | pixade.org: And I'm just not sure how to go about that
[01/04/2017 23:01:26] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: user base is not hard
[01/04/2017 23:01:35] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: to start off right what we need to do
[01/04/2017 23:01:41] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: how many skype contacts you got?
[01/04/2017 23:01:56] Kyle | pixade.org: Like 40
[01/04/2017 23:01:57] Kyle | pixade.org: lol
[01/04/2017 23:01:59] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: ok 40
[01/04/2017 23:02:01] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: good
[01/04/2017 23:02:09] Kyle | pixade.org: I've had DBuffed advertise with his 1k
[01/04/2017 23:02:12] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: and dbuffed has 2.5k
[01/04/2017 23:02:14] Kyle | pixade.org: And not much came from it
[01/04/2017 23:02:20] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: however we need something more
[01/04/2017 23:02:20] Kyle | pixade.org: See more than 1k
[01/04/2017 23:02:28] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: now you might be asking what is the problem
[01/04/2017 23:02:37] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: well we need to offer incentives for joining
[01/04/2017 23:02:42] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: there is a small problem with that
[01/04/2017 23:02:50] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: we don’t want to offer too big amounts
[01/04/2017 23:02:53] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: for a low user base
[01/04/2017 23:03:03] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: we need to start by offering a referral scheme
[01/04/2017 23:03:26] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: now the thing is we cannot limit users
[01/04/2017 23:03:38] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: so what we have to do is start with something small
[01/04/2017 23:04:03] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: so like the user to get the most referrals at the end of the month wins 5M 07
[01/04/2017 23:04:17] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: its not too big but it will bring users and their friends
[01/04/2017 23:04:35] Kyle | pixade.org: I tried something like that.
[01/04/2017 23:04:44] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: what we won’t do is encourage them to post. They can see the users at the bottom.
[01/04/2017 23:04:58] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: how many members
[01/04/2017 23:05:03] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: are on pixade currently?
[01/04/2017 23:05:18] Kyle | pixade.org: Like 3
[01/04/2017 23:05:21] Kyle | pixade.org: 30
[01/04/2017 23:05:27] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: 30 members registered?
[01/04/2017 23:05:31] Kyle | pixade.org: Ya
[01/04/2017 23:05:34] Kyle | pixade.org: In 2 months
[01/04/2017 23:05:37] Kyle | pixade.org: Or 3
[01/04/2017 23:06:13] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: well we’ll have to start by mass messaging contacts to our referral scheme
[01/04/2017 23:06:23] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: we should be able to boost it to 50-100+
[01/04/2017 23:06:30] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: once we have the first 100 members
[01/04/2017 23:07:01] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: then we can start asking for web traffic
[01/04/2017 23:08:17] Kyle | pixade.org: That's fine. I have an offer, I need to talk to DBuffed first though. He is probably asleep
[01/04/2017 23:11:54] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: I can either provide hosting or help with SEO/Web traffic
[01/04/2017 23:12:16] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: Its really up to you about what you actually need help with.
[01/04/2017 23:12:39] Kyle | pixade.org: Well..... I'm thinking a bit differently right now. I have web hosting separate from IPB hosting.
[01/04/2017 23:13:00] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: but I don’t think you should be paying $40 for an IPB license
[01/04/2017 23:13:03] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: per month
[01/04/2017 23:13:08] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: for 30 members only
[01/04/2017 23:13:36] Kyle | pixade.org: What I need help with is the upfront cost of a license if we go the route you mentioned  I'd rather get a legit one up and running
[01/04/2017 23:14:16] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: To be fair that is understandable however what I feel the best bet would be to do is to basically save the $40 your paying right.
[01/04/2017 23:14:30] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: Go for nulled ipb then upgrade to ipb4
[01/04/2017 23:15:03] Kyle | pixade.org: Nulled is nice and cheap (free). But with the license you have IPB support staff available to help you.
[01/04/2017 23:15:20 | Edited 23:16:01] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: because equally yes we can definitely have an IPB4 running ASAP but there would be a problem with that and I can explain that problem.
[01/04/2017 23:16:18] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: If you’d like me to explain then you can ask.
[01/04/2017 23:16:43] Kyle | pixade.org: Just a heads up we got like 10 min to talk until my wife gets home and then I'm going to hang out with my son.
[01/04/2017 23:17:00] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: Thats fine.
[01/04/2017 23:17:00] Kyle | pixade.org: So if you can explain in that time frame go for it
[01/04/2017 23:17:26] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: Yes so basically as you know IPB4 is a huge update.
[01/04/2017 23:17:32] Kyle | pixade.org: Yes
[01/04/2017 23:17:35] Kyle | pixade.org: Security as well
[01/04/2017 23:18:22] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: If we immediately upgrade we will not be able to provide good updates to the site.
[01/04/2017 23:18:41] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: What we want is for users not to get bored like oh its another ipb4 site
[01/04/2017 23:18:57] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: so what I was thinking is stick with nulled, get some traffic/seo worked out
[01/04/2017 23:19:08] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: get maybe around 100 members
[01/04/2017 23:19:14] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: 100-200
[01/04/2017 23:19:20] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: then upgrade to IPB4
[01/04/2017 23:19:26] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: and make a new update with it
[01/04/2017 23:19:34] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: because remember immediately after we upgrade
[01/04/2017 23:19:38] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: we’d have 2FA
[01/04/2017 23:20:07] Kyle | pixade.org: I have 2fa already :)
[01/04/2017 23:20:22] Kyle | pixade.org: My issue
[01/04/2017 23:20:26] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: and remember nulled
[01/04/2017 23:20:37] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: supports a lot more than 30 users.
[01/04/2017 23:21:16] Kyle | pixade.org: 1. I'm a security person.... I have a background in IT security.  IPB4 solved some of the security issues that they had.
[01/04/2017 23:21:44] Kyle | pixade.org: 2. I'm not quite sure why users would get "bored" with a better functioning website
[01/04/2017 23:22:01] Kyle | pixade.org: As a UX lover, it's much better in IPB4
[01/04/2017 23:23:51] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: I do understand security, the issue is that if we are not having enough traffic dedicated to the site there is no point getting an IPB4 license.
[01/04/2017 23:25:05] Kyle | pixade.org: Yea true
[01/04/2017 23:25:10] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: Users would not get bored with a better functioning site. I mean the updates. We want to have a decent amount of updates so people are happy.
[01/04/2017 23:25:32] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: Like nobody would care about a website that has 100 members
[01/04/2017 23:25:52] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: In case you didn’t realise, Raflesia is the co-owner of PGBot
[01/04/2017 23:25:57] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: PGBot has 100k+ members
[01/04/2017 23:26:12] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: Thats why they are using IPB4
[02/04/2017 16:11:17] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: Yo is anyone even alive in this chat?
[02/04/2017 16:14:47] Kyle | pixade.org: lol yea. With family
[02/04/2017 16:15:20] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: thats fine
[02/04/2017 16:15:27] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: I just wanted to know if anyone was there
[02/04/2017 16:15:35] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: btw may I ask you what the time difference is?
[02/04/2017 16:15:39] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: Here its 4:15pm
[02/04/2017 16:40:10] Kyle | pixade.org: 1040 am
[02/04/2017 16:40:27] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: ok
[02/04/2017 16:40:30] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: -6 hours
[02/04/2017 16:42:22] Kyle | pixade.org: I'm grocery shopping what's up.
[02/04/2017 16:42:38] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: not much just wanted to know what the time difference was.
[02/04/2017 20:32:34] Dbuffed | 1500+ feedback/vouches and growing!: Sorry chaps, what's up?
[02/04/2017 22:50:13] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: Kyle, you there?
[02/04/2017 22:57:12] Ex-$100 Donor || Waiting on Maxi || Seraphic || John: Hello Kyle??
[04/04/2017 16:23:29] Kyle | pixade.org: Hey. Let's keep chats here.
[04/04/2017 16:23:38] Kyle | pixade.org: DBuffed needs to be informed of our talks
[04/04/2017 16:29:31] Dbuffed | 1500+ feedback/vouches and growing!: It's fine Kyle, you know where I stand with it all. John, no offence you seem far too shady for my taste as I have expressed to Kyle, I would like to step back - Good luck John with your demands and desires.
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