FőnixToday at 11:42
You can't say you were trying to be the bigger person after giving such a disingenuous apology
You and Matt both cornered her and tried to force her to apologize for something that you instigated
That, to me, seems pretty stupid
And the fact you keep trying to slander her is pitiful really

matty’sToday at 11:45
what do you mean
i just sent a personal apology to her
lmao



Nya~ KouhaiToday at 11:46
Scroll up instead

TinycooToday at 11:50
I mean, my first issue with that is that to constitute as slander it has to be untrue. And I'm not sure what in that is supposed to be untrue when its a screenshot
I'm also not sure how getting two people together and asking them both to apologise is cornering someone
They both refused to apologise the first time, Kitty has then gone back later to apologise and she is still shitting herself over it and refusing to move on so

matty’sToday at 11:53
that is exactly what happened. hes summed that up perfectly

FőnixToday at 11:56
Imagine facing a judge and an opposing attorney, right? You're there to defend yourself. Then, you find out that the judge and the opposing attorney are dating/engaged/whatever. Do you not see the problem with that
the very fact you two are romantically related creates bias, no matter what you think
why not have someone else mediate?

TinycooToday at 11:57
I like to think I was pretty impartial, but I'd be more than happy to see anywhere where I was not

FőnixToday at 11:57
That's. Not. Relevant.
if you're so concerned about fairness, then you could see this

matty’sToday at 11:58
i dont see how thats relevant anymore? despite everything, i have sent an apology message last night, frank, stripped and thought out so that we can go on our lives without harbouring any hatred or grudges toward one another, yet she rejected it and chooses to remain enemies?

FőnixToday at 11:59
You a) apologized in such a backhand way I would almost call it insulting, b) tried to play the female solidarity card like she should have just accepted it on the basis of being a woman, and c) have displayed conduct that demonstrates the apology was merely for your own personal self image, not a genuine apology

matty’sToday at 12:02
???? what kind of twisted ideological theories do you have of me? lmao i apologised because i felt that i did not want to go on having enemies in my life. its not a good feeling and so i chose to make amends. thats literally all to it

FőnixToday at 12:04
"Here is what YOU did wrong, but I apologize for this thing that I did which is definitely not as bad because I want to see myself as better than you"
"also we're women we should stick together"

matty’sToday at 12:04
i said i was sorry that i brought up a petty issue and should have personally dmed it to her and sorted it out there instead. how does that make it sound like im playing the victim card?
and its true that we are both women and we should stick together as a minority on the internet. i dont understand why there is criticism toward that?

🍟 XanaxToday at 12:06
I think what Fenixx means is you bringing that up makes it seem like she's obligated to accept the apology for that reason alone

FőnixToday at 12:07
Because, kitty, none of this would have happened in the first place if you didnt take a nonessential comment like she just shot your dog

matty’sToday at 12:07
...so, according to you, what should i have said as an apology message?

🍟 XanaxToday at 12:08
She called herself petty
She admitted she was in the wrong

matty’sToday at 12:08
youre being so rude. i dont understand what you want me to say honestly

🍟 XanaxToday at 12:08
I think it was pretty ok

matty’sToday at 12:08
you say im unconditionally biased but the only one who is is you

🍟 XanaxToday at 12:08
The biased part was because of Matty as the mediator I think

matty’sToday at 12:09
i dont wanna start arguments man. im on discord for friendships. thats why ive sent hani the apology message. i thought i was doing the right thing

TinycooToday at 12:09
Either way, Kitty has tried twice to find a solution and Hani has refused both times to cooperate in favour of tantrums. I guess that leaves your options as deal with the fact she isnt as perfect as you see her or show yourself an exit

FőnixToday at 12:10
Look, you're being totally irrational and honestly kind of blowing my mind with the amount of mental gymnastics you're doing, but I apologize for being rude. We as discord members need to stick together. I'm not saying this because anyone forced me to, I just don't want to have enemies
did that feel genuine?
when did I say Hani was perfect
I'm not saying she was in the right
but you sure as hell weren't either, and your continued slander of her under the guise of having the moral high ground is shameful

matty’sToday at 12:13
i dont think that was my apology template at all. i explained how the situation affected me, genuinely, and criticised myself for starting a petty argument and that i should have taken it to the dms and talk it out.

TinycooToday at 12:13
So im gonna boil this down to two options:
1. Accept she's gone and whats happened has happened
2. Go find the front door
By now im sure everyone is very bored of hearing about this and I dont intend to clog up the server with continued argument about it

matty’sToday at 12:14
ive also asked 3 different people for their opinions on the apology message before i sent it
so if im a shit, ingenuine writer, then i guess everyone else is too?

FőnixToday at 12:15
that would perhaps be a credible argument, if you didn't surround yourself with people who won't criticize you
that's why you stripped me of mod status way back when, remember?
because i wasn't a "real friend"

matty’sToday at 12:16
yep, and thats also why you used your discord nitro boost as leverage

FőnixToday at 12:17
I got that boost because I wanted to contribute to the server. But I won't contribute to a server that abuses power so blatantly.
I've said my piece

TinycooToday at 12:17
then stop talking

FőnixToday at 12:19
That's your tactic. Dismiss and deem irrelevant. "No one cares", "just stop talking", etc.
then you claim impartiality and fairness
incredible
anyway, I really hope next time you have a bit more prudence
both of you

TinycooToday at 12:21
Yes sir, sorry daddy

matty’sToday at 12:21
...you done yet?

FőnixToday at 12:22
Depends. Do you get the point?

🍟 XanaxToday at 12:23
Dude. You're acting like your opinions on this are the be all and end all

FőnixToday at 12:24
Well I would hold it to a higher quality than one that allows for the abuse of power by others for their own personal gain
but sure

AeonToday at 12:25
I understand the bias point and atm think thats something thats more easily dealt with
I dont think she was cornered but i understand where youre coming from so maybe we shouldve had someone else or we can pick someone else for that stuff?
I personally dont want unneeded conflict, but like i see where you both are coming from

matty’sToday at 12:27
i mean, matt literally said hed server mute both of us if we didnt cooperate (on general). hes not the type who blindly sucks my clit because were dating. he looks at things in everyone’s perspectives

AeonToday at 12:28
That isnt the point, leave that part
Like sure you both dont have bias it doesnt mean everyone else will see it as that

FőnixToday at 12:28
the very fact you two are together creates bias
or, at least, the possibility of bias

AeonToday at 12:29
And i try to be the same with my partner but when it comes to stuff its seen as me being bias

FőnixToday at 12:29
which, if you wanted to be fair, would be unreasonable

TinycooToday at 12:29
I do agree that someone else would have been better, but  as both the owner and only mod online that sort of left me in a bind

AeonToday at 12:29
It just happens
Yeah thats true in that aspect, poor timing

matty’sToday at 12:30
yeah i wasnt really sure who else to ask

FőnixToday at 12:30
that's understandable
but you can't claim fairness afterwards

AeonToday at 12:30
If you guys see @Főnix's point on that then we're making progress i think
Yeah, thats true
Honestly i think matty did a good job for what was available at the time
Seemed fair on both, but it can easily be seen as cornering etc if you just glance at it

FőnixToday at 12:32
I really don't have a problem with that
its that after, you claimed to try to be civil and insinuated that she was being uncivil
when they underlying scenario was inherently unfair
which is blatant misrepresentation for your own self image

matty’sToday at 12:32
thats fine. however, i still dont see how my apology message last night was seen as tryna play victim card or whatever

FőnixToday at 12:34
I know you don't. that's why I've been trying to tell you why it was shit

🍟 XanaxToday at 12:35
Clarification: why YOU THINK it was shit

FőnixToday at 12:36
Listen, it didn't need to be perfect if you had just sent it and left it alone
but then you post the DM's to the server

matty’sToday at 12:36
yeah, because im sick of people like you who pin me as the antagonist when i tried to reach out and make a change
i tried being the better person to sort shit out. end of story. like it or get the hell out of the server.

FőnixToday at 12:38
ah yes, because that is a prime example of the better person you are
telling me to like it or get out

Nya~ KouhaiToday at 12:39
*third option - withold the right to pass

FőnixToday at 12:39
I don't care to follow this line of argument any further so I'll drop it

matty’sToday at 12:39
i have already explained my rationale to you in a civilised manner. repeatedly.
matt and i are both tired of it

FőnixToday at 12:40
Well I'm tired of you both using your powers to exercise your personal wills so I suppose we're even
/fin

TinycooToday at 12:42
I dont really remember asking, but okay

FőnixToday at 12:43
next time I'll wait until you ask if you abused your power, then
no worries

FőnixToday at 12:52
"please don't talk to Matt like that again. :)"
duly noted

matty’sToday at 12:55
wanna see a magic trick?

liannananananananaToday at 12:55
yo sher
i dont think thats necessary

matty’sToday at 12:55
dude
look at everything hes said
fucker keeps trying to get at me
idek why

Nya~ KouhaiToday at 12:56
is the magic trick the purge command?

liannananananananaToday at 12:56
im in class
in a bit
but i saw a little

TinycooToday at 12:58
Different opinions were had, its solved. Nothing to see here

matty’sToday at 12:58
yes. except HE was acting like a pompous asshole while we were all rational.

🍟 XanaxToday at 12:59
It's dropped and finished
How about we move on?

matty’sToday at 12:59
fine
but his existence means nothing to me. fuck him

FőnixToday at 13:03
If it had been done to you, I would have been just as adamant
for the record
despite this, I don't consider you any less of a friend

AeonToday at 13:06
People are able to have disagreements, being mature is still being able to civil after disagreeing as well, right?

FőnixToday at 13:07
Sure
people can be mortal enemies in the courtroom but good friends elsewhere, from what I've seen
My harshness is not equitable to hate or malice