Lead chelation-CHILD - Jun 2012

Q: Lead chelation-CHILD

emaiella

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I have a 4-yo boy who came back high for lead in a provoked
(captomer) heavy metal urine test.

His lead was 61.3. The 95% chelated reference range is under 30.

I know that IV EDTA is best for lead, but since this is just a
little guy, does anyone have any advise regarding an oral
alternative?

Thanks,

Emily Maiella
VT and MA

Erin Holston Singh, N.D.

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Emily,

I successfully addressed lead in a one-year old child with the
following protocol:

Pro-Omega Liquid ½ tsp., every other day.

Chlorella caps 1 cap, twice a day

Blue Green Algae 1 cap, twice a day

with algaes–if possible, open and put into food, smoothies (or
do 2 caps, once a day)

Vitamin C (Scorbatate) ¼ tsp., twice a day, in water or with
molasses in water (& algae….?)

Gammadyn Cu-Au-Ag ½ amp, twice a day (discard unused 1/2 amp,
will not stay good overnight)

Unda #3, 9, 48 4 drops, twice a day (straight, off a spoon or in
water or juice)

Plumbum 200K Give 5 pellets once every 2 weeks.

While I encouraged parents to do a follow-up lead test (stool),
this was not done, since the child perked right up and cleared
all of her symptoms related to the lead shortly after starting
the protocol.

Erin Holston Singh, N.D.

Lexington/Cleveland

Options Naturopathic Clinic
O: 216-707-9137 F: 216-707-0162
www.optionsnaturopathic.com

Kristin

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I have successfully chelated my son (age 8 months - 2 years) and
a few other children under age 3 with DMSA, Liver Support, Whey,
Basic Detox Nutrients and the typical Crinnion protocol, but
refigured for age/wt of the child. For the younger ones, we
mixed the supplements in applesauce or at 8 months, mom took
the supportive supplements and we didid DMSA suppositories. But
at age 4, the child should be able to swallow the pills (with
practice - place pill with water in mouth, then tilt head
forward and the pills float to the throat.

At this age, the dosage is probably about 50-100 mg DMSA every
3-4 hours, plus one Liver Support & 2-4 Basic Detox Nutrients &
1/2 -1 scoop whey + Vit C mixed into applesauce and eaten in 3-4
divided doses. Assure regular elimination & high fiber since
colon therapy would obviously be counterindicated, but you can
still do constitutional therapy and even some very careful
sauna or a warm bath. I usually chelated for only 3 days and
then still did 11 days of the supportive (applesauce
supplements plus Heavy Metal Support) supplements.

One child did have some mood problems during chelation, but the
others tolerated it extremely well.
Kristin Becker, St Paul MN

Jill Evenson, ND

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I'll second Kristin's DMSA vote, by realize I'm in an unlicensed
state, so that was the 'hammer' I had.

Cautions are: 1) be careful if you chelate more than 2 days at a
time, which will increase the risk of chelating necessary
nutrients. 2) put at least 3 weeks between chelation cycles. 3)
watch cal, mag, zinc, EFAs, coq10, and vitamin A deficiency
(check back of arms for hyper keratosis pilaris / little bumps
on back of arms and front of quads. 4) and yes, keep them
pooping!

It can be very successful.

Jill Evenson, ND

Janesville & Middleton, WI

Maria Cronyn

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I have a case like this now too.

I am using DMSA.  Doctors Data has a protocol of mg/kg etc they
will share with you and check the kidneys first.

Did you kid get exposed to recalled toys?  Mine did.

Also- did the exposure happen in 2010- or late 2009 - during the
Tylenol recall?  And had they used it?

I am very suspicious about the kids who took the recalled
Tylenol and if anyone has a lead case that seems to have been
exposed around that time please share.

--
Yours in Homeopathy
Maria Cronyn ND DHANP

Toronto

905.990.1135

Dan Carter

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Jill's suggestions are good - I would personally be OK with a 3
day chelation cycle followed by 11 days off. DMSA (Chemet) was
originally developed to treat lead poisoning in children.
During the initial testing they used the drug for 45 days
straight; even with this protocol most of the children did OK,
but a few had increases in liver enzymes or bone marrow
suppression. It is always good to insure good liver/renal
function and normal CBC prior to initiation of therapy. Using
treatment cycles as suggested has been very safe with little
evidence of either liver, kidney or bone marrow harm.

Dan Carter ND

Bozeman MT

Rick Marinelli

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I am curious of other's experience with oral CaEDTA for lead
reduction? Especially those of you with higher Ns.

I have used variations of on/off DMSA with kids and adults with
generally good tolerance. I have also used oral CaEDTA a lot in
both populations depending on their individual situations and
tolerance and have generally good tolerance with it as well. In
my patients they both gave good results and rapid lead lowering.
In my experience overall, DMSA has significantly more side
effects and there is more variability in kids and adult
responses to it.

CaEDTA does seem to preferentially get bone lead and neither are
particularly effective for brain lead reduction while DMSA
depends on kidney elimination which is problematic for some. I
know the initial studies on oral CaEDTA showed increased
symptoms in the first 24hr exposure which was why BAL was
added. More recent research still finds them (DMSA, CaEDTA)
indistinguishable in their overall effectiveness.

In some folks I have combined both (DMSA and CaEDTA) with a
seeming reduction in adverse effects (like GI upset or skin
sensitivity) if either one wasn't tolerated as well alone.

In many, CaEDTA appears better tolerated and DMSA is considered
the alternative.

Rick Marinelli, ND

Portland, Oregon

[email protected]

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There is a viable alternative that is evidence-based but vastly
more gentle.  The used of homeopathic plum bum 6c, tid for a
time.  Works well in my practice.

Jared Zeff, ND, Vancouver, WA

Shiva Barton, ND

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Jared,



That can't work. Its too simple!



Shiva (Gump) Barton, ND

Winchester, MA