Interview w/ ex-FBI John DeSouza on Las Vegas

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	sit down or hop on and internet call with John DU Sousa
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	now if you don't know who John to Suzette is you're gonna find out a little bit more in this interview but he was a FBI investigator a special agent for over twenty five years working various counter
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	terrorism and sits
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	violent crime field work for the FBI
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	now he has turned into a paranormal investigator because of some of the work he did in the FBI really made him start to question
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	you'll find out little bit more about that in our discussion
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	and I first found out about John d'souza earlier this summer
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	through Jason quit shout out Jason
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	he was telling me about his relationship with John his user and what they had gone through together and it greatly made me respect this guy so I did a little bit more researching to find out who he is I added him on Facebook Watson interviews of him and I love the dude I love the way he speaks I love the way his mind works and is able to
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	break down certain situations but also bring that logical balanced perspective to metaphysics to the paranormal to an area of research that we need it more logical deduction it
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	so that being said I'm very excited to bring you this interview today I hope you enjoy it and I'll be seeing you guys soon
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	welcome ladies and gentlemen to destroying the illusion I'm Jordan safe there it's Friday October twentieth beautiful Friday and I am absolutely delighted to have John d'souza on with me today you don't know who John issues it is he is an ex special agent of the FBI who was with the FBI for over twenty five years and during that not that time he maintained top secret security clearance
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	and work in the global war on terrorism and violent crimes division
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	and now John d'souza is an avid researcher into the paranormal it tries to get the truth out in any way shape or form he can which is why I'm absolutely excited to have him here are you doing John
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	doing great Jordan thanks for having me on here to our destroy the illusion that stuff
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	absolutely my friends so I mean being in the FBI for twenty five years that's
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	that's a long time you you probably did a lot of stuff there so tell us about how
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	you could tell us about your time in the FBI and and how you became a paranormal researcher that you are
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	well I was in the FBI I was in the tourney I was ... legal legal guy a legal our instructor I was also a counter terrorism agent as well working big cases counterterrorism cases for many years I worked a lot of high profile cases and so forth
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	but I am not in two thousand one
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	when the up when the R. twin towers were attacked in the US
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	India acts of terrorism that went forward there
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	well we had an incident that affected me in many many others
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	that out was called the indigo kids a monologue
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	and what that was was basically a bunch of little kids
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	I ages from like five
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	all the way up to twelve
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	dozens and dozens of cases of these little kids all over the country who were called in this leaks
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	R. as possibly connected terrorism because they all had experiences
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	of fraud
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	precognitive experiences up what happened on nine eleven
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	and they all had dreams visions they true arts and crafts they are heads up
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	it's a vision that they told adults about
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	and so once nine eleven happens
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	well we had about
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	we had these kids will call that number the parents but by caretakers they were called in to these intelligence centers are saying calling anything anything at all that could be connected to this terrorist act
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	so we had to actually go out and interview these kits
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	and I asked them about their experiences
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	one little boy are each
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	see it if you go my Facebook and there's a trailer there are one little boy drew this nice finger painting out too tall buildings are
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	and
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	teacher came over to him and said wow this tall buildings these these are very beautiful our
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	you have all of the buildings are glowing and there's angels flying out of the buildings but red wings and the boy said out those aren't
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	and those buildings are glowing they're on fire and those are the angels of people jumping out of the buildings and they're on fire to
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	while
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	and so the teacher walked away from a child like that and think more about it until nine eleven happened
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	and then she called it
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	as possibly connected terrorism so that FBI agents and officers had to go out and talk to these kids
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	up another little girl was on a playground just plain by herself wasn't interacting with the other kids teacher instead teaching assistant came over and asked are you OK she's just tracing designs in the dirt and little girl said I'm fine I'm just thinking and then teacher goes to walk away Mubarak pulls on her skirt violently says tomorrow stay away from tall buildings
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	the tall buildings fall down
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	sometimes they fall on
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	and the next day night
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	wow so all of these experiences were were bare live right before nine eleven
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	exactly
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	Gaza and then you were exposed to that and that kind of I'm sure blew your mind at that point it did not just mine but that dozens of other officers and FBI agents that had also
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	a spate in these these interviews
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	because in every single case there were thousands of these cases
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	in every single case
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	our it was founded kids were interviewed about the up parents the backgrounds were checked and came back no connection terrorism of course like it's not like these kids overheard some adults planning this terrorist act on them nothing like that so every single case the paranormal explanation
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	it was the only explanation why
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	in every case
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	but how how far into your FBI career did all of this take place
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	this happened a few years into it and that's the reason I I wrote my first book about the power investigators it was because of
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	because of that experience and many others that occurred before that but that was the most wide ranging experience that affected not just me but many many other law enforcement officers
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	and you wrote that book when you're in the FBI after I left chapter left gotcha is in Europe little more open to speak about yeah you know I wasn't twenty thirteen well
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	gotcha so in the four years since then you've really and you wrote
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	paranormal investigators now you have a new book clear healers out
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	clear hearers yours yes
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	awesome so yeah you're really now trying to research as much as you can get the truth out and it's it's awesome to see
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	speaking of nine eleven and terrorism of course we have
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	the Las Vegas shooting that occurred
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	a couple weeks ago tell me your thoughts on that
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	my thoughts on that is that there are
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	there are numerous amount of questions
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	that are not being answered
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	that just make this make disappear like out
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	like something's wrong here
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	like something's terribly terribly wrong and for myself personally the number one question I have is why on the first
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	day of the investigation
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	did the FBI make the announcement that there was no connection to terrorism or terrorists groups
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	makes
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	no sense at all when he do that on the very first day
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	on the invest to make that official announcement when
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	when it takes ten days
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	to examine the computers of the person who allegedly
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	did this are
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	and he's got a lease to homes that means to home computers at least plus other devices as well this got many other devices
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	and it takes ten days to do the search strings and to search through those computers and so why at the end in order to prove whether or not there was
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	a terrorist group
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	or not
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	so why and why earth in the first day with the Afghan ounce no connect
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	the church groups
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	I think
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	which now we're finding out that ISIS is actually providing evidence I mean at least data they're showing data that shows this guy was connected to them and was recruited by them working
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	so it just doesn't make sense on any level that's the number one question I have also and then of course we also all know that
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	all the witnesses
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	are absolutely resolute and and firm on that there were multiple shooters
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	not just to look like multiple shooters
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	in this incident
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	I've never seen a group of witnesses so resolute and so unify on that point
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	and yet there they are there
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	amazing
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	how that's how that's happening and so
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	in the questions that are
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	that are being shown in this case is just
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	it's just amazing that they are on the answer
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	I am due to the fact that we have the internet there's so much evidence that circulating so fast
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	exactly exactly so it's like a new paradigm that they just can't
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	I just can't wait these question then there's so many out
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	there's so many of them there's how there's some of the video that's circulating ouch yeah fire coming from fourth floor from the lower floor and that has not been addressed because saying that although that's a strobe light that's it or or Ono those windows don't open up that's not answering that's the answer
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	there has to be evidence provided in the have to provide an within the world would they not provide
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	via the
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	CC TVS up this guy carrying this eight hundred pounds of equipment
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	into him or somebody you hang this eight hundred pounds of equipment into that room why wouldn't they
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	and the only witness that we have is somebody that was
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	somebody directly up the guy supposedly is of a security guard that was shot by somebody through a door
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	somebody he didn't see
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	and so it's just there's just too many questions and there's nothing being provided
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	to up to answer it goes quite
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	and so we don't want to say we don't want to say it's a it's a false flag the mass media has out kinda corrupted that church but I mean it's
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	it's looking more and more like there could be some staging could be a staged
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	events
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	which means it's real it happens and
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	people were killed tragic
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	were killed but there's
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	components of this it's starting to look like artificial leg was artificially put together
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	that's what
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	if it were stage artificially put together what would the reasoning be in your mind
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	well whenever the well I I don't say I don't say the I word or NWO but
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	I use the term elite powers in control
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	and the only person control referring to the bloodlines who control the central banks who give nations their marching orders every day are
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	and whenever the elite powers in control do something like do an operation
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	up there's it's never for just one purpose
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	there's always layers of purposes
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	so this guy over here saying that it's being done
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	to benefit this this global corporation wants to install security in all the casinos
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	and that's why it's being done he could be right
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	but then this other person who says well it's obvious that it's being done for the global initiative of disarming the entire the entire world disarming the American public
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	and that's the reason that was stuck
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	date these people and others as well there can be all these purposes can going forward at the same time
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	so I believe yeah I believe there are many purposes to it but of course
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	probably the single most out most ancient purpose is global disarmament of civilians out for
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	and that's that's a big one
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	so when you see the usual suspects coming out and jumping on this for her
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	guess they call it gun control is not it's not really can't control its its disarmament of human beings
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	two are we them defenseless that's that's what it is and that's what they're advocating for
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	and so that's always been one of the that's always the top most important reason
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	but there are other there would be other reason
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	awesome awesome my friends so
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	switching gears a little bit you know we have
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	the Las Vegas shooting that occurred possibly FedEx for multiple reasons
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	are we also have a lot of other things blowing up in the mainstream media in regards to disclosure in regards to
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	bringing force various technologies and information has been kept from us
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	so for instance
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	Tom along in his to the stores initiative so what what could be
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	this these disclosures you know in
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	combination with this
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	potential men we call false flag war staged event aren't gonna what do you see all of this getting together
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	for
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	well I you know I look at the ... times along a press conference
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	you know because I was actually I was asked to do that otherwise I would have looked at it
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	but I actually went through it and out
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	and I made notes even
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	and I found it
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	bewildering I mean
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	absolutely bewildering I saw I saw in there up
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	the
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	well step down on himself I believe is appears to be up
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	because I watched body language and skate and somehow talks and
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	he was the only one who was able to talk without a teleprompter
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	if you notice
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	ten to that vast empty theater that they were doing that they were doing the stage star event at
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	and
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	he was and he appears to me to be forthright a sincere individual in the things that that he believes
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	our but that that rogues gallery behind him
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	of like a well liked a who's who of agencies
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	that that are do not
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	do not work out
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	trying to disclose things to the American people you know quite the opposite up in specially that the offices that they held these were like high officials
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	India CIA in the D. O. D. the secretary of defense
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	I mean these were not the people who are working to bring our information and openness to the American people at all error and these were these were mostly the people that when I was an FBI agent I'm my and I was just I was a field H.
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	out I was what's called street agent best together
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	and these were the guys that mean other field agents would
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	avoid like the plague
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	because they were not out there ... working for up for helping the American people access to information at all out so I was kinda
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	puzzled by him bringing out these guys as being the gold standard ouch what I don't know I don't know it was just completely perplexing to me
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	I it didn't it didn't seem seem to fit
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	except that up
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	it appears that there's somebody else behind this
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	behind this entire operation
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	somebody on a much higher level who's behind this operation and they pay these guys
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	stand up there with her
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	I think I was taking notes I mean they're skied there from
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	aerospace skunk works
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	I mean they're Slotkin luck luck Lockheed Martin's skunk works I mean that's
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	it's so it's pretty are amazing they said things like we will be connecting the dots all this was Tom blocks at this
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	I will be connecting the dots
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	and yet
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	a lot of it she kept on saying about who's gonna be entertained
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	so
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	up
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	it's just dumb
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	it's just kind of schizophrenic as far as what they said was going to be up high officials from the black world
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	I think
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	high officials from black world is what he's really putting forward here
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	and some of these guys supposedly
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	left
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	there agency
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	up
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	a few days ago
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	possibly
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	just a few days ago
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	so that means that they work in talks and being recruited and putting together its operation
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	while they were still
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	at
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	there agency at CI a
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	and a D. O. D. at so how could they have been doing bad
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	without their agencies being a part of this
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	yeah it seems like an almost massive conflict of interest there
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	yet not knowing that it seems like a mass of possibility that their agencies
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	still and all
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	in a race see that's that's what it looks like to me just from what I know and they kept on saying that sob O. in the CIA official
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	the CIA official says this is going to be a commercial venture
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	... but it's going to be an intellectual adventure
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	so
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	and again he was reading teleprompters they were all reading teleprompters except for to watch
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	and
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	along
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	and up sneeze has worked for the Senate Intel committee
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	it was just it was just dumb
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	unbelievable as far as that goes and also now
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	here's the worst part of it
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	the
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	the SEC filing is
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	about is available so this is an investment
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	thank
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	where investors can
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	take their money
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	I have put it towards this company embodies common stocks shares
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	in this company
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	well
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	all look at all the paperwork is out is actually public and I put up but I put up a really excellent research piece
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	that was done out by
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	UFO group
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	I your fault ufology group how much on my Facebook I I said Gee I don't know if you think you owe seekers yes yes it was and I saw my Facebook Roemer wants to go look at it right now it's sop it it's excellent job of researching this SEC paperwork filing it appears that it was set up with various corporations
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	this saw what's called two stars academy it was set up with various corporations
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	so that's a long has the trust in his name
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	but
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	he takes none of the liabilities if things go sideways with this thing
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	now takes none of that liability at all
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	okay let's
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	I just thought it's just very amazing the way that it's set up also when the company was first formed
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	it took on two hundred thousand dollars in liability up in that right away
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	we don't know from what and yet but that two hundred thousand dollars almost matches exactly
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	the amount that was that is presently there or was when it started out
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	from supposedly from
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	small investors
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	I remember that because on their website they had a go fund me number and I was very
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	yeah got where where did these yeah is near these investors come from where these investors come from
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	who are they
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	you know it's amazing how did they even hear about this if they're really if they are truly small investors well
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	now you see on the deck she
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	for the corporation
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	suddenly there's this two hundred thousand dollars liabilities
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	that matches almost perfectly the amount that appeared all of a sudden from investors
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	on the Gulf fun me that you just referred to
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	amazing coincidence
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	amazing coincidence almost almost seems like it's kind of a fake grassroots effort no way I am
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	could go so eat
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	so yeah I mean I'm just saying I'm just saying how it looks when all I do is look it pollutes and then match up patterns
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	and that's what I see
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	but what I'm getting right now is people are sending in from
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	on
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	who actually is behind
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	odds along and this entire group and it's pretty shocking
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	all but I can't reveal any of that because I've only gotten a one or two sources on it and it's not corroborated on our documentation
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	names
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	yet
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	up but it saw
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	yeah it's going to be pretty shocking when not when people find out who's actually crackle
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	yeah I'm speaking of Lougheed they're acting like Lockheed doesn't already have the technology they need this large effort to
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	and now gain funds to research and
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	develop it yet enrich former head of skunk works was saying that they already have the technology to take
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	yeah that's because this
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	all this effort appears to me to be psychological it's a psychological it appears to be a psychological operation
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	what they want to put forward is not really dot technology
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	because like you said technologies already out there
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	yeah what they want to put forward is psychological acceptance
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	all of the technology as well look at us we're really heroic here where heroic weird working with this technology and we're going to put it all it's gonna be awesome
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	I am not take it we have a rock star standing out in front telling you how cool this is isn't this great
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	psychological they're putting out so
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	they're putting back forward that's the goal that they're too
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	create your good in very good point and autumn one ends
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	that's a good thing because that psychological acceptance we need that in the mass public
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	but at the same time what is there an goal that's the big question
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	yeah there's there's different there's numerous different suggestions what the end goal is but my own personal opinion
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	I think our
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	really that the great call just based on what I've seen
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	what I've seen because they're so much fluff
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	in everything that they had their doing there's like ninety nine percent fluff and have to really really penetrate
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	... with that within investigators I to really examine drill down and see what is the real thing underneath your
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	and the only thing I can see of any substance here that appears to be
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	... potential underlying the real agenda is
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	is weaponization is acceptance of weaponization of our space
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	I'm
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	that's that's the most substantive thing I can really see here that which I know
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	is a is a
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	permanent
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	comment agenda of the elite powers in control
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	it's something very very important to them up along with you know along with their other their other top top priorities
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	but one of their great parodies is
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	weapons Haitian
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	of outer space
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	and I think this may actually be
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	soft face
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	... that weaponization
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	and that makes a whole lot of sense because when I was watching that
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	while it's true that as well one of the presenters reading office teleprompter was
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	discussing Russia
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	he was kind of making a metaphor as to if the military now were
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	faced with an adversary that was able to you know moving thousands miles an hour in
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	D. materializing would not have this amazing advanced technology he was almost pulling need me Russia carton saying well we wouldn't want our enemies to have that
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	and he made reference to this back in the Soviet Union and the Cold War the arms race then so it looked as if they were psychologically building us up to say our we we do want that we do what weapons in space or some kind of backlash Ormus such to
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	un defend ourselves against well they were claiming Russia an error
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	making it seem my question that in the press conference but maybe later on they could move into the extraterrestrial are yeah yeah we need these for
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	bigger threat and four and four year of viewers who are probably a younger demographic than out than I'm accustomed to let me just explain to them that are
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	one of the first great are the first great head of NASA
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	was a guy named Werner von Braun
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	and this idea weaponization of our space is not is not something I came up with something I got em
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	because he he said he was a futurist
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	and he was great banker are in addition to some of his negative things but Werner von Braun said he he predicts it
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	that the United States will become embroiled in several fake wars in the in the
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	the future
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	and he said one of them was going to be the war on terrorism
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	where the entire Islamic world would be against the western world any says these are these wars these fake wars are needed by the elite powers in control in order to keep everybody occupied so they never look up
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	see what the real problem
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	so she said one of those would be the global war on terror where the entire world would be embroiled in this
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	this whole thing another one of course was going to be BR Cold War via Soviet about the war of the the United States against Soviet world
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	and dot that would go on for quite awhile they set the final great war would be a
00:26:35
	would be
00:26:36
	fake alien invasion
00:26:38
	which would be you Ste
00:26:40
	in order to weaponize all of our space and space travel is the same agenda as weaponization
00:26:47
	it's it's all that's all intertwined
00:26:49
	and so that that would be used to weaponize all of our space why
00:26:55
	because those weapons would all be thrown up there and we're talking about weapons that can use force lasers sonics scalar technology all kinds because in the final analysis of course they are but the agenda of the hour leapers intro is that take take over all these weapons
00:27:12
	and then state of pointing them out word towards the alien invasion that's coming in will be turned in work towards us
00:27:20
	okay hands exercise are a level of dominance and control
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00:27:24
	that was
00:27:25
	dreamed up that was never dreamed of before by dictators world dictator
00:27:29
	I've lived in
00:27:31
	imagine having the power to our make an entire town evaporate
00:27:37
	who's resisting the global well the only hours ago troll will not doing something they want
00:27:43
	and that's the kind of power they will have that's why weaponization
00:27:47
	or even you know I'd get it is targeted as a single human being at home or some that sat
00:27:53
	exactly and then speaking of such you know bringing skis scalar technologies directed energy weapon that conversation picture
00:28:02
	we're having these massive fires in California
00:28:05
	it's fires there where many of them started seemingly overnight there's varying
00:28:11
	interesting pictures of
00:28:14
	melted metal melted carparks ... Lotta trees still standing around that area that supposedly got burned
00:28:24
	up plastic which is resistant to microwaves blasted still stands in the middle of these
00:28:30
	you know fires burning hot so do you think that the is
00:28:37
	mmhm
00:28:38
	outer space space based technologies these weapons platforms already being used
00:28:43
	well I do believe this I believe better the elite powers in control are using breakaway technology
00:28:50
	all the time apparently now
00:28:52
	I'm more more often
00:28:54
	stuff that we first up
00:28:57
	that most publicly we first really became aware of in nine eleven during nine eleven
00:29:02
	when we saw steel girders reduced to power
00:29:06
	when you saw these out these things being done that a bunch of twelfth century savages did not we're not eight to eight not
00:29:15
	they were there
00:29:17
	with box cutters endowed with thirty nine shirts on now eight and not
00:29:21
	they were there the terrorists were real and the terrorism is real and those guys were there but again I believe that they were being used
00:29:29
	taxis and that nine eleven was accomplished
00:29:33
	was accomplished breakaway technology
00:29:35
	you know that sod that the nations are not allowed to have
00:29:39
	and I believe that's what you're talking about there with the forest fires that have
00:29:43
	weird signatures
00:29:45
	that go on up things that are not that can't be done with
00:29:49
	Nash with our technology that we have
00:29:52
	currently out in the open yeah I do believe that that's happening
00:29:55
	are more and more
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	but I also don't believe that the nations are allowed to have this technology directly themselves for instance up what happened on nine eleven when you have these airplanes
00:30:07
	that are massive that are driven with such precision
00:30:12
	strawberry position as to hit a target
00:30:15
	just hit a target in the in the in the jungle of of buildings and towers out with such precision and not such hard angles
00:30:24
	that even as a twenty year veteran pilot would have a hard time
00:30:28
	ugh directing that that airplane hitting that precisely
00:30:32
	and so yeah I believe all that was done with breakaway technology and we're continuing CF technology now but I don't believe the nation's
00:30:39
	have control whether you're talking about the United States or others do not allow to happen
00:30:44
	because they would use it on each other yeah so what gal when discussing factions enough right back right it's it's that you kind of have to take the labels there then nationality out of the picture yes it spans nations that spans more more like that kwazii governmental corporate
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	group
00:31:03
	yeah
00:31:04
	yeah absolutely
00:31:06
	so
00:31:08
	where is how
00:31:09
	crazy things seem to be getting yup Las Vegas these
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00:31:15
	semi disclosure initiatives these firestorms you know our own
00:31:21
	yeah what what do you foresee happening and how fast do you foresee it happening in
00:31:28
	to play a little speculation game here
00:31:30
	well you know if we're speculating ow I'll have to say that I believe we may be looking
00:31:37
	at another
00:31:39
	and this is this is difficult to say but we may be looking at another mass shooting events
00:31:45
	in the next sixty days to ninety days
00:31:48
	because this one just hasn't
00:31:51
	worked
00:31:52
	it hasn't I have never seen a narrative
00:31:55
	full part
00:31:56
	so quickly
00:31:57
	as it did with this particular mass shooting in Las Vegas and it's it's unbelievable how badly fell apart and how it's continuing to create so many problems even though even though course a mainstream media so controls are they walk they won't touch it now they won't say anything
00:32:15
	but now that we have witnesses that are missing
00:32:19
	and so we have one that taught died
00:32:23
	under suspicious circumstances the other day others twenty eight year old just twenty eight year old girl
00:32:28
	who was going to organize the witnesses into some sort of far off organization to try to get to the truth of the Las Vegas shoes and now she ends up dead
00:32:38
	out and of course the security guard is effectively missing
00:32:41
	are for all intents purposes he's refusing to do any interviews except for except for Ellen killing you
00:32:47
	our who Ellen of course who has financial interests with MGM who owns the out mentally bay
00:32:54
	casino
00:32:55
	so basically I think this is just falling apart so badly
00:32:59
	that they may need to do over
00:33:02
	that's what I'm thinking
00:33:04
	they may need a do over
00:33:05
	about which is
00:33:07
	why people need to be especially alert
00:33:09
	my hands are very careful off for the next for the next sixty days because
00:33:15
	they need something Ted tried up
00:33:18
	make people to try to
00:33:20
	check this one off shake it off and just come back with something else
00:33:24
	so that's that's the most out
00:33:27
	scariest thing I'd speculate on
00:33:30
	and I have seen a lot of ads pop up just over the last few days of various active shooter drills and I saw that crisis actors around the country so just like you said the very careful you know if there's an event going on the area I will believe it
00:33:45
	and also just wanna make a quick note you know you said shooting in the next sixty to ninety days
00:33:51
	interesting piece of info that I saw a couple weeks ago was that the company GS for the security company that the Orlando shooter had worked for a recently took over security apps
00:34:04
	the Vikings stadium in Minneapolis where the Superbowl is gonna be held
00:34:10
	I know when is that that's in usually end of January
00:34:14
	but they they just took it over so I mean even even like sporting events
00:34:19
	BR
00:34:20
	something to be very careful out so absolutely because this is a very real possibility because
00:34:28
	I'm sure the pressure that they're feeling on this on this mass shooting
00:34:33
	Vegas is just getting more and more
00:34:36
	and so it's
00:34:37
	it's not going to go away it's only gonna get worse
00:34:40
	you think it is going to get worse so you don't think that this is the biggest could be the straw that breaks the camel's back comes back
00:34:47
	well in terms of like bringing shedding light on what can operations really is is I watch me
00:34:53
	yeah
00:34:55
	I hope so that would be that would be great
00:34:58
	but it's like I said these things are done from a level that is so far above
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00:35:05
	national governments
00:35:07
	and it's done
00:35:08
	start at least the people who do these types of if if it is a staged about
00:35:15
	all the people who put the staged events together
00:35:18
	I mean they've been doing this for for hundreds of years
00:35:22
	they they know how to cover their tracks they know how to do these things
00:35:27
	to maximize their protection
00:35:29
	and they know how to put national actors
00:35:33
	in the way
00:35:34
	to avoid any sort of possibility of finger pointing to them
00:35:38
	I mean it's so and they're and they're very good at it I mean just look at the whole campaign off nine one one was an inside job nine once inside job you just put out some dis info agents out there pretend like they're the most anti government people in the world I think create a pithy slogan
00:35:56
	and there you go you've got a whole group whole movement that is permanently looking in the wrong place
00:36:03
	to blame who did this
00:36:06
	they're looking at what like
00:36:08
	federal government
00:36:09
	well they'll never gonna find the evidence on that why
00:36:12
	federal government did
00:36:14
	federal government does not have the technology to do the things that were done on my one one I just don't I have it
00:36:20
	they don't because if they did they'd be using it like every week every week overseas in Afghanistan and all the places that they're at war
00:36:29
	see so I'm that's that's something that they're so good at and that's why it's
00:36:35
	it's so hard to say you know all this is going to be the one where they are going to be caught where they're going to be
00:36:41
	show I mean we've had we've had mass shootings where operators were actually caught in the woods
00:36:48
	by by police by local sheriff
00:36:51
	and put in handcuffs
00:36:53
	and they were wearing camouflage
00:36:56
	and they were detained
00:36:58
	and then what happens
00:36:59
	I get a phone call and it says I let him go because she's not part of this and don't keep is information
00:37:05
	and they do that and they do
00:37:07
	don't mind and
00:37:08
	and then that's that's the end of it
00:37:10
	as a matter fact might've Las Vegas are mass shooting there were several people detained
00:37:16
	that were that were stopped as possibly being
00:37:19
	and yet what happened
00:37:21
	they get the phone call says let him go it on a part of this
00:37:25
	and that's what stuck and don't cheat their information
00:37:28
	and that's what
00:37:30
	so that's why it's hard it's hard Jordan say
00:37:33
	you know yeah this is going to be the one where you where were French because it's so easy to focus people on on the old are you now hope federal government did it
00:37:43
	you know they're the ones who did it the other up and so that stocks
00:37:48
	that stops all the real inquiry
00:37:50
	from going forward at school
00:37:53
	yeah classic classic co Intel pro counter intelligence
00:37:57
	programs
00:37:58
	so
00:38:00
	thank you thank you for you know bringing ...
00:38:03
	a very well balanced
00:38:06
	respective into all of that because I know with how emotionally
00:38:10
	driven so many people are about how more intense these events are getting you know I think and I can kind of shut down
00:38:18
	critical thinking aspects aspects of mine so it's very good to have those
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00:38:22
	those perspectives and knows very grounded opinions
00:38:26
	arm and then lastly I want I want to ask you about your book clear hearers now what and I just wanna what you to expound a little bit about that and what you wrote about your new
00:38:37
	writing
00:38:38
	... clear here is is something that
00:38:41
	people have not seen before it is a it's us it's a book that is about how my own up paranormal experiences well
00:38:51
	even as a child even the answer even as a teenager and it's the story of a great voice that comes to be a very clear up voice of authority that comes to people during times of crisis
00:39:04
	to help them to uplift them and sometimes he saved or why
00:39:09
	and it's also it talks about it's a book that talks about my experiences growing up
00:39:14
	I in my family are and also the experiences of many many other people who were clear shearers
00:39:21
	it's based on not playing audience is well that's another word for it
00:39:25
	I'll bet I'm bringing back the English term for a clear audience was a French word I'm based on based on Joan of arc was the first one globally known clear here
00:39:34
	Joan of arc who used to say I thought that she would hear the voice of mother Mary she said it was mother Mary who would come to her and help her and show her her future and help her
00:39:48
	you say France
00:39:49
	is what she
00:39:50
	so it's up that's what the book's about
00:39:53
	so
00:39:55
	not like anything people
00:39:56
	seen before that's for sure
00:39:58
	that sounds amazing you know it's it's
00:40:01
	fantastic to see in ex FBI agent was a grounder perspective be into the paranormal and be into the paranormal but also keeping that
00:40:11
	balanced logical perspective and investigative perspective
00:40:16
	yeah well it being able to see well there's layers of reasons for different meanings in and deduce
00:40:22
	and connect the dots this to all those all those layers
00:40:25
	select one of the things I like to do with people because I'm constantly ask okay it is and I counseling get information on this with this info agent this guy's this info agent you know who is this info agent his was not you know and who's paid by the government happy
00:40:41
	send your C.
00:40:43
	show payments from CIA contractors to
00:40:46
	certain individuals
00:40:47
	and I want to see any of that
00:40:49
	up because I will never tell people about this guys this guy's information Israel discuss this simple agent
00:40:56
	I'll never do that when I try to do is teach them how to do that for themselves I try to teach methodology I do workshops I try to teach people the way that the FBI does it
00:41:05
	to evaluate our informants whistle blowers anybody bringing information and that's basically are called out map the person think costs
00:41:15
	the info
00:41:16
	and map stands for motives access persona
00:41:20
	up close
00:41:22
	B. information stands for credibility unbelievable the source and survey
00:41:28
	and that's what you do you go through each of those items
00:41:31
	and if and those are two separate tests
00:41:33
	if a person passes one part of the test
00:41:36
	that's all it takes for you to consider their information
00:41:39
	and you in nature as
00:41:41
	if they if they pass the parcel on the personal level
00:41:45
	you're going to give their information are a really good looking at and you gonna consider very carefully or the information passes the
00:41:53
	then you're gonna again you can give the person
00:41:55
	a great chance
00:41:57
	to go through their stuff
00:41:58
	so it's motives map met the person is motives whatever the motives access
00:42:05
	and persona assessment
00:42:07
	what is that person
00:42:08
	the stable reliable
00:42:10
	consistent and then you are out
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    00:42:12
    	you are cuss the information
    00:42:15
    	is it credible credible material is it unbelievable or believable
    00:42:20
    	but the source is it third hand
    00:42:23
    	or is it documented hearsay weighing all our this is an original source
    00:42:29
    	answer me the material seemed it's from a singular source or various
    00:42:33
    	the pencil
    00:42:34
    	so anyway that's one of the things I tried to
    00:42:38
    	everywhere I go it's just
    00:42:39
    	people had it value a
    00:42:41
    	his whistle blowers
    00:42:43
    	and the
    00:42:43
    	informants
    00:42:45
    	I'm so very poor
    00:42:46
    	and that is absolutely important I absolutely respect that that because we have to teach people how to think not what to think wrote it in this world is not so black and white it's very gray step person could not even know they might be handing along misinformation they could be are completely
    00:43:06
    	it all out intention for good but they don't know the information is bad or some of that might be in
    00:43:13
    	quality info some might be bad as well so it's it it goes into such a deeper layers and just saying are there not everything's wrong with this
    00:43:21
    	exactly person trust
    00:43:23
    	it's here you know I I just I am I am very wary of people that deal in absolutes like that
    00:43:30
    	and people should stay away from mainstream media elk on hold on all counts completely great joke going around saying our I don't listen to CNN for the same reason I don't drink from a toilet
    00:43:42
    	you know that's awesome mazing having you on with me John and I I thank you for talking with me for this time today
    00:43:50
    	because great Jordan great being here with you and destroying the illusion have absolutely my friend so I'm just real quick where can people go to find you we had we discussed your clear here's your new book where can they find your work find that and
    00:44:06
    	well all my books are available on Amazon and anyhow but to retailers so we're fine books are sold also I might website is John Thomas books
    00:44:16
    	dot com I that's TI turn a M. like Mary a
    00:44:20
    	John ten books dot com ends are just people should just check out my Twitter I'll my Facebook is well my face because what a great material on it up fandom swells was my you tube channels well
    00:44:32
    	and that yeah I'm trying to get the stuff out there and make people think about these topics that are so much more important than anything else out there
    00:44:41
    	much more important than anything non
    00:44:44
    	television that that'll clear exactly how that's everybody watching I'll go ahead and post all the links that John just offered a download this video for easy access
    00:44:55
    	and again thank you for coming along with me John UGX Jordan's been great man great thanks
    00:45:01
    	I take it
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> CHANNEL: DESTROYING THE ILLUSION
TITLE: "Interview w/ ex-FBI John DeSouza on Las Vegas, Tom Delonge Disclosure & Paranormal Investigations"
PUBLISHED DATE: 2017-10-20 19:55:33