[con] Trying to talk about linux in OD is lol

<lyricalophi> well gonna go and fetch my caviar black from the Post Office downstairs
<RinCeyan> nice
<RinCeyan> 1TB?
<RinCeyan> 1.5?
<lyricalophi> 500gb, it's for trying out win7 yet again
<RinCeyan> oh
<RinCeyan> pity, 1TB's are cheap even for caviar blacks I think
<lyricalophi> it is, it was like €55 vs €90 but I thought it's not worth it for the purpose it'll serve me
<lyricalophi> I've been okay with 1TB for years now
<RinCeyan> it's nice not being an archivefag
<RinCeyan> =(
<Jous-Nbook> I got tired of windows so I have linux now ;)
<RinCeyan> .....playing pc indie games on linux? wat
<RinCeyan> you using wine or some shit
<Jous-Nbook> ya
<RinCeyan> ...lol ok
<Jous-Nbook> why the ...lol
<Jous-Nbook> lol
<RinCeyan> playing windows games through a windows emulator on linux
<Jous-Nbook> so ;)
<RinCeyan> ...yea I just find that amusing :)
<Jous-Nbook> people play ps2 games with an emu and same for load of other stuff
<RinCeyan> ...yeah but that's cause they don't want to deal with the hassle of buying obscure old games or buying a generation old console
<RinCeyan> or just a pirate
<RinCeyan> ...but when you can use windows to play windows games but not using it, but a compatibility layer to do so on another OS... I find that amusing :)
<Jous-Nbook> load of people do it
<Jous-Nbook> like really a LOAD
<RinCeyan> sure I'd understand if your main purpose wasn't gaming
<RinCeyan> if you're a linux dev or something
<RinCeyan> and live and breathe linux
<Jous-Nbook> my main purpose isnt gaming lol I mainly watch anime and make shit for stepmania
<Jous-Nbook> and there is stepmania for linux so
<lyricalophi> linux is pretty cool, I wish I was a hacker and could use linux...
<RinCeyan> well watching stuff is prty universal w/e platform
<lyricalophi> a Hacker
<RinCeyan> making shit for stepmania though...
<Jous-Nbook> a haker
<RinCeyan> idk why you'd purposely choose linux
<RinCeyan> unless there's a benefit I dunno of
<lyricalophi> I'd do it for reliability
<lyricalophi> I've heard good things about it in that aspect
<RinCeyan> Reliability? Hmm
<RinCeyan> Depends on your hardware
<RinCeyan> And driver support
<RinCeyan> The OS itself is really stable
<Jous-Nbook> reliability and u know less mem usage + no worrys about a fucking virus everything
<lyricalophi> yeah, my coworker actually got some software on his netbook which he uses to control stage lights
<Jous-Nbook> no registry no dll's every were
<lyricalophi> with a ps2 controller
<RinCeyan> Nice
<lyricalophi> how is that not fucking awesome
<RinCeyan> But
<Jous-Nbook> when I want to connect shit to my pc with usb it takes 0.1 sec to work
<RinCeyan> I bet your coworker wrote the drivers himself or something
<lyricalophi> he's a wizard
<Jous-Nbook> I dont need to wait for WINDOWS HAS FOUND NEW HARDWARE
<Jous-Nbook> and a load of times windows fuck even that up
<Jous-Nbook> or it fucks something else up
<RinCeyan> ...implying Linux doesn't need to find drivers for some new hardware you plug into your PC?
<RinCeyan> Cause it does?
<Jous-Nbook> yeah it does but its not like windows
<Jous-Nbook> its already there with plug and play
<Jous-Nbook> like I connect my mouse
<Jous-Nbook> mouse works right away on first thime
<Jous-Nbook> time*
<Jous-Nbook> dont have that WINDOWS HAS FOUND NEW HARDWARE
<Don-> gnight
<RinCeyan> ...that's a prettyshitty mouse if you havin some driver issues on Windows lmao
<lyricalophi> isn't it that way too on OS X
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<Jous-Nbook> CONNECTING TO WINDOWS UPDATE SERVER
<Jous-Nbook> SEARCHING FOR DRIVER SOFTWARE
<Jous-Nbook> PLEASE WAIT
<Jous-Nbook> 10 min later
<lyricalophi> for instance my audio interface apparently works without ASIO drivers on a mac
<Jous-Nbook> DRIVER SOFTWARE FOUND
<Jous-Nbook> INSTALLING SOFTWARE
<Jous-Nbook> 2 min later
<lyricalophi> but it's choking on my vista even with drivers
<Jous-Nbook> mouse works
<RinCeyan> I think you're over dramatizing it but w/e lol
<Jous-Nbook> also if I want to shut down my pc it takes 5 sec not 5 min
<Jous-Nbook> same for booting
<lyricalophi> nice uh
<RinCeyan> To me you're describing some circa 10 years ago technology lmao
<lyricalophi> ssd with no internet connection or antivirus
<RinCeyan> Cause I don't get any of that that you're complaining about
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<RinCeyan> Not to say I don't understand your POV cause I have seen systems like that ;)
<RinCeyan> Just... in like circa 10 years ago equivalent PCs
<Jous-Nbook> when I did install linux I had to have internet connection to download wireless hardware drivers for my adapter
<RinCeyan> Well duh, Linux is meant to be light
<Jous-Nbook> but I just connected my android and got internet from that right away
<RinCeyan> It only gets what it needs
<Jous-Nbook> and installed it in sec
<Jous-Nbook> and done
<RinCeyan> Nice
<RinCeyan> Tethered?
<Jous-Nbook> yeah
<Jous-Nbook> with windows its first INSTALLING DRIVERS
<RinCeyan> The only nitpick I don't like about Linux is the filesystem
<lyricalophi> I couldn't handle myself around a linux without learning everything from scratch
<RinCeyan> It's not too bad lyricalophi
<Jous-Nbook> what I always find funny with windows is it needs to reinstall the driver for EVERY SINGLE USB PORT
<RinCeyan> Especially if you start with an easier to get started with build like uhh
<Jous-Nbook> so if you connect it in another port than you normally connect
<Jous-Nbook> HERP DERP DRIVER INSTALL
<RinCeyan> ubunto
<RinCeyan> *ubuntu
<lyricalophi> ubuntu is ok
<lyricalophi> or kubuntu
<RinCeyan> Yea
<Jous-Nbook> kubuntu us better
<Jous-Nbook> cuz it has KDE
<Jous-Nbook> which is nice
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<Jous-Nbook> if you have an old laptop its best to ger xubuntu tough
<Jous-Nbook> but I rather have Linux Mint KDE tough
<RinCeyan> Well you can get kde for ubuntu too so w/e
<Jous-Nbook> kubuntu is ubuntu with KDE
<lyricalophi> I was thinking of going all out and converting into a hackintosh but I cba
<lyricalophi> I'd get another pc for that
<RinCeyan> I don't mind Linux but I will stay away from apple if I can help it
<lyricalophi> no matter how bad I think apple/macs are there's just some things they're good at
<RinCeyan> I don't deny that
<Jous-Nbook> with apple stuff you pay 20% more just because it says apple
<RinCeyan> Wrong
<lyricalophi> more like 100
<RinCeyan> You pay 20% more for the customer support
<Jous-Nbook> rofl
<Jous-Nbook> then take the 20% off
<Jous-Nbook> screw customer support ;)
<lyricalophi> u want +4gb memory? 1000 dorras preas
<RinCeyan> At least that's what I read ;)
<Jous-Nbook> the only apple stuff I have is an Ipod nano 3rd gen
<RinCeyan> I just find that apple using people are some of the most narrow minded people ever
<RinCeyan> That's why I can't be bothered to let myself use one
<lyricalophi> I think they're like that to begin with
<RinCeyan> apple using people, or people in general? lol
<RanYakumo> bah.. all these other OS's can not measure up to the epicness of the double-u
<RinCeyan> ...all OS's are overrated :)
<RinCeyan> each has their perks
<Jous-Nbook> anways I like linux ;) and besides windows 7 still uses the same bases as windows me which is basicly dos running with some programs for the gui like explorer.exe like the base of windows is so old that the background is being shown by IE
<RinCeyan> but there is no "perfect" OS and everyone is free to like/use their preferred OS
<Jous-Nbook> yep
<Jous-Nbook> I like linux so I'ma use it ;)
<RinCeyan> ...same basis as Windows ME? Dude you sound freakin retarded saying that
<Jous-Nbook> lol
<RinCeyan> If you're overexaggerating and just trying to say you're tired of the same explorer look fine that's understandable but idk your statements just reek of ignorance ;)
<RanYakumo> if he had said windows vista use'd the same basis I might have beived him..
<RinCeyan> *facepalm*
<RanYakumo> both sux equally
<RinCeyan> That'd still be wrong
<RinCeyan> But yes both sucked
<RinCeyan> (:
<Jous-Nbook> hey well its true its the same bases used over and over and over thats why u can easly use older version shit in newer versions only problem is there are some diffrents that why you get problems but the basis is the same
<lyricalophi> this is my play face
<RinCeyan> ...
<lyricalophi> on another note, os x lion is being called the vista of apple, which I find hilarious
<RinCeyan> Nice
<RanYakumo> lol
<TouwaEriol> lol...
<Jous-Nbook> rofl
<RinCeyan> MS tries to copy Apple, Apple tries to copy MS
<RinCeyan> what a vicious circle
<Jous-Nbook> more like ms tries to copy apple and linux
<TouwaEriol> I got Linux on Dual Boot btw but I mainly use Linux for debugging
<TouwaEriol> some nifty tools for that
<RinCeyan> .....MS tries to copy Linux? Oh my god can you shut up already lmfao
<TouwaEriol> goddamn Linus
<TouwaEriol> Didn't OS X branch off a private Linux distro
<TouwaEriol> lol
<Jous-Nbook> OS X has a load of stuff from free bsd
<TouwaEriol> yeah so how is MS copying Linux more than Mac
<lyricalophi> optical drives are dying
<TouwaEriol> or even copying Linux
<Jous-Nbook> it isnt lol
<TouwaEriol> I fail to see your point
<RinCeyan> Jous-Nbook just ultimatroll
<TouwaEriol> lol
<Jous-Nbook> well some features that have been in linux ages ago are being added in mac and windows so
<RinCeyan> oh ok so Linux copied the WINDOW thing from Windows I bet too
<TouwaEriol> which in turn was copied from old Macs lmAO
<Jous-Nbook> rofl
<lyricalophi> yeah, macs were the first computers to have windows
<RinCeyan> w/e I'm just trying to refute Jous-Nbook sayin shit copying off of Linux like Linux ain't doing the same
<TouwaEriol> l remember when I was about 4 years old and I went to a newspaper company where I got a scholarship and they had those old macs, and also had MS running DOS
<RinCeyan> I'm not defending a particular OS, just being devil's advocate and refuting Jous-Nbook's dumb statements ;)
<lyricalophi> it's only dumb to copy people's work if you're doing a bad job at it
<Jous-Nbook> The X.Org Server is popular with the free software Unix-like operating systems, being adopted in most Linux distributions and BSD variants. It is also included in Sun Microsystems's Solaris, and is the de-facto server for x86 systems; SPARC-based systems almost exclusively use Sun Microsystems's proprietary Xsun server, as Sun graphics driver support for X.Org is very limited. It is also used in Cygwin/X, Cygwin's imp
<Jous-Nbook> lementation of the X server for Microsoft Windows, VcXsrv and in Xming. Mac OS X versions prior to 10.5 ("Leopard") ship with an XFree86-based server, but 10.5's X server is based on the X.Org codebase.
<Jous-Nbook> load of the windows interface is based on xorg which is the stuff that runs the gui for linux
<RinCeyan> o man I used windows on a solaris machine at my university, thing had freakin some 16 or 24GB of RAM it was mindblowing
<Jous-Nbook> like the windows 7 interface and mac x interface get stuff from xorg which was mainly used for linux distos like ubuntu
<Jous-Nbook> like the window like installer you see when you install windows and mac originated from linux
<RinCeyan> yea ok w/e Jous-Nbook, Macs had windows in 1984 and Windows did in 1985, the linux kernel was done some 6 yrs later
<Jous-Nbook> before that you have the installer like in windows xp
<Jous-Nbook> but they took xorg and created a cygwin based on it for windows vista and 7
<RinCeyan> Fair enough man, nowhere did I refute your claim that Windows/Macs are copying off of Linux, I'm just sayin you describing Linux like the holy grail when it's copying off of those too (:
<RinCeyan> it's called innovation and competition
<Jous-Nbook> <RinCeyan> .....MS tries to copy Linux? Oh my god can you shut up already lmfao
<Jous-Nbook> then whats up with that statement
<RinCeyan> I'm just sayin you describing Linux like the holy grail when it's copying off of those too (:
<RinCeyan> ^
<Jous-Nbook> rofl I'm done