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  5.  
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  8. - Worldwide, we're
  9. looking at approximately
  10.  
  11. 2
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  13. 350 million people
  14. with diabetes.
  15.  
  16. 3
  17. 00:00:33,833 --> 00:00:36,002
  18. There's not question
  19. that we're in the midst
  20.  
  21. 4
  22. 00:00:36,002 --> 00:00:38,104
  23. of a diabetes epidemic.
  24.  
  25. 5
  26. 00:00:38,104 --> 00:00:41,307
  27. Right now, one in
  28. three Medicare dollars
  29.  
  30. 6
  31. 00:00:41,307 --> 00:00:44,444
  32. is spent in the care of
  33. people with diabetes.
  34.  
  35. 7
  36. 00:00:44,444 --> 00:00:47,347
  37. One in 10 total
  38. health care dollars
  39.  
  40. 8
  41. 00:00:47,347 --> 00:00:50,216
  42. is spent on people
  43. with diabetes.
  44.  
  45. 9
  46. 00:00:50,216 --> 00:00:53,920
  47. There's no question that
  48. this is a major problem.
  49.  
  50. 10
  51. 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:55,155
  52. - [Kip] What in particular
  53.  
  54. 11
  55. 00:00:55,155 --> 00:00:58,425
  56. is the relation of
  57. the diet and diabetes?
  58.  
  59. 12
  60. 00:00:58,425 --> 00:01:00,326
  61. - I'm not gonna get into that.
  62.  
  63. 13
  64. 00:01:00,326 --> 00:01:01,094
  65. - [Kip] Into diet?
  66.  
  67. 14
  68. 00:01:01,094 --> 00:01:02,495
  69. - No.
  70.  
  71. 15
  72. 00:01:24,350 --> 00:01:26,519
  73. - [Kip] My name is Kip, I'm a
  74. filmmaker from San Francisco
  75.  
  76. 16
  77. 00:01:26,519 --> 00:01:28,121
  78. and I have a confession to make.
  79.  
  80. 17
  81. 00:01:28,121 --> 00:01:29,989
  82. I'm a recovering hypochondriac.
  83.  
  84. 18
  85. 00:01:29,989 --> 00:01:32,859
  86. Like so many of us, I've a
  87. family history of diabetes,
  88.  
  89. 19
  90. 00:01:32,859 --> 00:01:34,894
  91. heart disease, and cancer.
  92.  
  93. 20
  94. 00:01:34,894 --> 00:01:37,130
  95. My dad had his
  96. heart bypass at 49,
  97.  
  98. 21
  99. 00:01:37,130 --> 00:01:38,865
  100. the second at the age 50.
  101.  
  102. 22
  103. 00:01:38,865 --> 00:01:41,334
  104. My grandpa died young from
  105. diabetes complications
  106.  
  107. 23
  108. 00:01:41,334 --> 00:01:44,704
  109. and both my other grandpa
  110. and grandma died of cancer.
  111.  
  112. 24
  113. 00:01:44,704 --> 00:01:46,439
  114. I was always paranoid
  115. that I would also get
  116.  
  117. 25
  118. 00:01:46,439 --> 00:01:47,974
  119. one of these diseases.
  120.  
  121. 26
  122. 00:01:47,974 --> 00:01:50,810
  123. Like any good hypochondriac,
  124. WebMD Symptoms Checker
  125.  
  126. 27
  127. 00:01:50,810 --> 00:01:53,146
  128. was essentially my
  129. browser's homepage.
  130.  
  131. 28
  132. 00:01:53,146 --> 00:01:55,348
  133. Even in my teens, I
  134. took Metamucil everyday
  135.  
  136. 29
  137. 00:01:55,348 --> 00:01:56,783
  138. and a daily aspirin.
  139.  
  140. 30
  141. 00:01:56,783 --> 00:01:58,785
  142. I read all the latest
  143. self-diagnosis books.
  144.  
  145. 31
  146. 00:01:58,785 --> 00:02:01,120
  147. I ate every multivitamin
  148. I can get my hands on
  149.  
  150. 32
  151. 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,523
  152. and I was obsessed
  153. with bodily functions.
  154.  
  155. 33
  156. 00:02:03,523 --> 00:02:05,525
  157. I followed all the large
  158. health organization's
  159.  
  160. 34
  161. 00:02:05,525 --> 00:02:07,927
  162. recommendations for
  163. preventing disease.
  164.  
  165. 35
  166. 00:02:07,927 --> 00:02:10,997
  167. I exercise regularly, don't
  168. smoke, don't drink soda,
  169.  
  170. 36
  171. 00:02:10,997 --> 00:02:12,999
  172. get enough sleep, reduce stress,
  173.  
  174. 37
  175. 00:02:12,999 --> 00:02:14,300
  176. and grew up eating
  177. what I thought
  178.  
  179. 38
  180. 00:02:14,300 --> 00:02:16,703
  181. was a healthy diet, until--
  182.  
  183. 39
  184. 00:02:16,703 --> 00:02:18,171
  185. - World Health
  186. Organization this morning
  187.  
  188. 40
  189. 00:02:18,171 --> 00:02:21,407
  190. has classified processed meats
  191. such as bacon and sausage
  192.  
  193. 41
  194. 00:02:21,407 --> 00:02:23,877
  195. as carcinogenic,
  196. directly involved
  197.  
  198. 42
  199. 00:02:23,877 --> 00:02:26,412
  200. in causing cancer in humans.
  201.  
  202. 43
  203. 00:02:26,412 --> 00:02:29,115
  204. - [Announcer] Processed
  205. meat is clearly linked
  206.  
  207. 44
  208. 00:02:29,115 --> 00:02:30,483
  209. to an increase in cancer.
  210.  
  211. 45
  212. 00:02:30,483 --> 00:02:32,085
  213. - Hotdogs or bacon could be just
  214.  
  215. 46
  216. 00:02:32,085 --> 00:02:34,754
  217. as dangerous as
  218. smoking cigarettes.
  219.  
  220. 47
  221. 00:02:34,754 --> 00:02:36,422
  222. - [Kip] The World Health
  223. Organization that looked
  224.  
  225. 48
  226. 00:02:36,422 --> 00:02:39,726
  227. over 800 studies from
  228. 10 different countries
  229.  
  230. 49
  231. 00:02:39,726 --> 00:02:43,296
  232. finding a direct link
  233. to consuming processed
  234. meat in cancer.
  235.  
  236. 50
  237. 00:02:43,296 --> 00:02:45,832
  238. Just one serving of deli
  239. meats daily increases
  240.  
  241. 51
  242. 00:02:45,832 --> 00:02:49,969
  243. your risks of colorectal
  244. cancer by 18%.
  245.  
  246. 52
  247. 00:02:49,969 --> 00:02:53,139
  248. I had no idea that what we
  249. ate affected cancer rates,
  250.  
  251. 53
  252. 00:02:53,139 --> 00:02:55,542
  253. but I never felt like I'd
  254. eaten a lot of processed meats
  255.  
  256. 54
  257. 00:02:55,542 --> 00:02:57,544
  258. until I realized
  259. that processed meat
  260.  
  261. 55
  262. 00:02:57,544 --> 00:02:59,746
  263. includes hotdogs,
  264. bacon, sausage,
  265.  
  266. 56
  267. 00:02:59,746 --> 00:03:03,216
  268. salami, ham, pepperoni,
  269. cold cuts, and Deli Slices,
  270.  
  271. 57
  272. 00:03:03,216 --> 00:03:05,552
  273. basically, everything
  274. I grew up eating.
  275.  
  276. 58
  277. 00:03:05,552 --> 00:03:07,820
  278. The World Health Organization
  279. classifies processed meat
  280.  
  281. 59
  282. 00:03:07,820 --> 00:03:10,323
  283. as a Group 1 carcinogen.
  284.  
  285. 60
  286. 00:03:10,323 --> 00:03:14,894
  287. The same group as cigarettes,
  288. asbestos, and plutonium.
  289.  
  290. 61
  291. 00:03:14,894 --> 00:03:18,064
  292. And classifies red meat
  293. as a Group 2 carcinogen.
  294.  
  295. 62
  296. 00:03:18,064 --> 00:03:19,866
  297. Was this like I'd
  298. essentially been smoking
  299.  
  300. 63
  301. 00:03:19,866 --> 00:03:21,534
  302. my entire childhood?
  303.  
  304. 64
  305. 00:03:22,902 --> 00:03:25,071
  306. If processed meats are labeled
  307. the same as cigarettes,
  308.  
  309. 65
  310. 00:03:25,071 --> 00:03:28,675
  311. how is even legal for kids
  312. to be eating this way?
  313.  
  314. 66
  315. 00:03:28,675 --> 00:03:30,610
  316. I thought this was
  317. new information
  318.  
  319. 67
  320. 00:03:30,610 --> 00:03:35,148
  321. but many of these studies
  322. had been around for 50 years.
  323.  
  324. 68
  325. 00:03:35,148 --> 00:03:37,417
  326. I couldn't believe I'd
  327. been eating processed meats
  328.  
  329. 69
  330. 00:03:37,417 --> 00:03:40,420
  331. virtually my entire
  332. life and was just now,
  333.  
  334. 70
  335. 00:03:40,420 --> 00:03:43,089
  336. finding out how
  337. dangerous they are.
  338.  
  339. 71
  340. 00:03:43,089 --> 00:03:44,324
  341. Why hadn't I been
  342. hearing about it
  343.  
  344. 72
  345. 00:03:44,324 --> 00:03:46,092
  346. from the American
  347. Cancer Society,
  348.  
  349. 73
  350. 00:03:46,092 --> 00:03:48,628
  351. the largest cancer
  352. group in the nation?
  353.  
  354. 74
  355. 00:03:48,628 --> 00:03:50,163
  356. When I went on their website,
  357.  
  358. 75
  359. 00:03:50,163 --> 00:03:51,898
  360. I was shocked to see that
  361. none of these information
  362.  
  363. 76
  364. 00:03:51,898 --> 00:03:53,766
  365. was featured on their homepage.
  366.  
  367. 77
  368. 00:03:53,766 --> 00:03:57,103
  369. But even more shocking,
  370. on their Eat Healthy page,
  371.  
  372. 78
  373. 00:03:57,103 --> 00:04:00,873
  374. they actually encouraged eating
  375. Group 1 carcinogenic foods
  376.  
  377. 79
  378. 00:04:00,873 --> 00:04:03,009
  379. like processed turkey
  380. and canned meats.
  381.  
  382. 80
  383. 00:04:03,009 --> 00:04:05,078
  384. This is after the World
  385. Health Organization
  386.  
  387. 81
  388. 00:04:05,078 --> 00:04:08,081
  389. reviewed over 800
  390. studies definitively
  391.  
  392. 82
  393. 00:04:08,081 --> 00:04:10,183
  394. linking processed
  395. meat to cancer.
  396.  
  397. 83
  398. 00:04:10,183 --> 00:04:12,218
  399. - [Sam] Thank you for calling,
  400. American Cancer Society.
  401.  
  402. 84
  403. 00:04:12,218 --> 00:04:14,954
  404. My name is Sam, I'm a cancer
  405. information specialist.
  406.  
  407. 85
  408. 00:04:14,954 --> 00:04:16,356
  409. How may I help you today?
  410.  
  411. 86
  412. 00:04:16,356 --> 00:04:17,757
  413. - Hi, I was calling
  414. because I was wondering why
  415.  
  416. 87
  417. 00:04:17,757 --> 00:04:18,925
  418. you all recommend people
  419.  
  420. 88
  421. 00:04:18,925 --> 00:04:22,362
  422. to eat processed
  423. meat on your website?
  424.  
  425. 89
  426. 00:04:22,362 --> 00:04:24,230
  427. Which the World Health
  428. Organization has classified
  429.  
  430. 90
  431. 00:04:24,230 --> 00:04:26,232
  432. as a Group 1 carcinogen?
  433.  
  434. 91
  435. 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,569
  436. Which is in the same
  437. class as tobacco smoking,
  438.  
  439. 92
  440. 00:04:29,569 --> 00:04:31,571
  441. asbestos, and plutonium?
  442.  
  443. 93
  444. 00:04:33,473 --> 00:04:35,942
  445. This would be like a
  446. lung association having a
  447.  
  448. 94
  449. 00:04:35,942 --> 00:04:39,579
  450. How to Roll your own Cigarettes
  451. section on their website.
  452.  
  453. 95
  454. 00:04:39,579 --> 00:04:41,948
  455. It's kinda the same thing?
  456.  
  457. 96
  458. 00:04:41,948 --> 00:04:42,882
  459. - [Sam] Well, let
  460. me just place you
  461.  
  462. 97
  463. 00:04:42,882 --> 00:04:45,151
  464. on a brief hold because--
  465.  
  466. 98
  467. 00:04:45,151 --> 00:04:46,786
  468. - He wasn't able to
  469. answer my questions
  470.  
  471. 99
  472. 00:04:46,786 --> 00:04:49,389
  473. and said someone would
  474. get back with me.
  475.  
  476. 100
  477. 00:04:49,389 --> 00:04:50,990
  478. I had always been
  479. concerned about cancer
  480.  
  481. 101
  482. 00:04:50,990 --> 00:04:54,460
  483. because both my grandma
  484. and grandpa died of cancer.
  485.  
  486. 102
  487. 00:04:54,460 --> 00:04:55,928
  488. I wondered if things
  489. would have been different
  490.  
  491. 103
  492. 00:04:55,928 --> 00:04:57,597
  493. had they known the
  494. link between diet
  495.  
  496. 104
  497. 00:04:57,597 --> 00:04:59,298
  498. and this terrible disease.
  499.  
  500. 105
  501. 00:04:59,298 --> 00:05:03,403
  502. In the US, one out of every
  503. four deaths is from cancer.
  504.  
  505. 106
  506. 00:05:04,604 --> 00:05:06,072
  507. Oh sweet, American
  508. Cancer Society rep
  509.  
  510. 107
  511. 00:05:06,072 --> 00:05:08,908
  512. confirmed the
  513. interview this week.
  514.  
  515. 108
  516. 00:05:10,677 --> 00:05:11,944
  517. So, we just went in
  518. for the interview
  519.  
  520. 109
  521. 00:05:11,944 --> 00:05:13,880
  522. with the American
  523. Cancer Society rep
  524.  
  525. 110
  526. 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:15,281
  527. and the security guard said,
  528.  
  529. 111
  530. 00:05:15,281 --> 00:05:17,283
  531. "There's no
  532. interview scheduled."
  533.  
  534. 112
  535. 00:05:17,283 --> 00:05:20,186
  536. So I went on to my phone
  537. and it turns out last night,
  538.  
  539. 113
  540. 00:05:20,186 --> 00:05:21,921
  541. after I'd told her that
  542. the interview's gonna be
  543.  
  544. 114
  545. 00:05:21,921 --> 00:05:24,924
  546. about the correlation
  547. between diet and cancer,
  548.  
  549. 115
  550. 00:05:24,924 --> 00:05:28,594
  551. she said she can no
  552. longer do the interview.
  553.  
  554. 116
  555. 00:05:29,762 --> 00:05:31,297
  556. After repeated emails asking why
  557.  
  558. 117
  559. 00:05:31,297 --> 00:05:33,099
  560. she was declining my interviews
  561.  
  562. 118
  563. 00:05:33,099 --> 00:05:35,568
  564. to simply talk about
  565. diet and cancer,
  566.  
  567. 119
  568. 00:05:35,568 --> 00:05:38,371
  569. she stopped responding
  570. all together.
  571.  
  572. 120
  573. 00:05:38,371 --> 00:05:40,873
  574. Why would an American
  575. Cancer Society rep
  576.  
  577. 121
  578. 00:05:40,873 --> 00:05:43,409
  579. not wanna talk about this?
  580.  
  581. 122
  582. 00:05:43,409 --> 00:05:45,478
  583. I was, however, able to
  584. connect with a growing movement
  585.  
  586. 123
  587. 00:05:45,478 --> 00:05:47,580
  588. of doctors who are willing
  589. to talk about the link
  590.  
  591. 124
  592. 00:05:47,580 --> 00:05:49,816
  593. between the standard
  594. American diet and disease,
  595.  
  596. 125
  597. 00:05:49,816 --> 00:05:51,984
  598. and it goes beyond just cancer.
  599.  
  600. 126
  601. 00:05:51,984 --> 00:05:53,953
  602. I took my old trustee
  603. van, Super Blue,
  604.  
  605. 127
  606. 00:05:53,953 --> 00:05:56,089
  607. once again out on the road.
  608.  
  609. 128
  610. 00:05:56,089 --> 00:05:58,424
  611. - 2/3 of adults are now
  612. overweight or obese,
  613.  
  614. 129
  615. 00:05:58,424 --> 00:06:01,427
  616. and we have an epidemic
  617. cascade of debilitating disease
  618.  
  619. 130
  620. 00:06:01,427 --> 00:06:02,962
  621. that's overcoming the country.
  622.  
  623. 131
  624. 00:06:02,962 --> 00:06:05,698
  625. There's no way we can
  626. sustain the current style
  627.  
  628. 132
  629. 00:06:05,698 --> 00:06:09,102
  630. of care with the epidemic
  631. that we're creating
  632.  
  633. 133
  634. 00:06:09,102 --> 00:06:10,970
  635. with our diet and
  636. lifestyle choices.
  637.  
  638. 134
  639. 00:06:10,970 --> 00:06:13,573
  640. - The diabetes, the
  641. arthritis, the heart disease,
  642.  
  643. 135
  644. 00:06:13,573 --> 00:06:16,375
  645. the dementia, the
  646. obesity, the cancers
  647.  
  648. 136
  649. 00:06:16,375 --> 00:06:18,978
  650. are affecting about
  651. 70% of deaths.
  652.  
  653. 137
  654. 00:06:18,978 --> 00:06:22,949
  655. All the data is that those
  656. 70% of deaths and morbidity
  657.  
  658. 138
  659. 00:06:22,949 --> 00:06:25,685
  660. are largely lifestyle-related
  661. and preventable.
  662.  
  663. 139
  664. 00:06:25,685 --> 00:06:30,389
  665. - Most kids by age 10 in the
  666. US already have fatty streaks
  667.  
  668. 140
  669. 00:06:30,389 --> 00:06:32,825
  670. in their arteries the first
  671. stage of atherosclerosis
  672.  
  673. 141
  674. 00:06:32,825 --> 00:06:35,361
  675. leading to heart
  676. attacks, strokes.
  677.  
  678. 142
  679. 00:06:35,361 --> 00:06:36,596
  680. - Here in American medicine,
  681.  
  682. 143
  683. 00:06:36,596 --> 00:06:39,031
  684. we operate from
  685. the disease model.
  686.  
  687. 144
  688. 00:06:39,031 --> 00:06:42,201
  689. We are in the business
  690. of treating sick people.
  691.  
  692. 145
  693. 00:06:42,201 --> 00:06:44,270
  694. We are not in the
  695. business of trying
  696.  
  697. 146
  698. 00:06:44,270 --> 00:06:46,105
  699. to prevent people
  700. from becoming sick.
  701.  
  702. 147
  703. 00:06:46,105 --> 00:06:48,074
  704. - When you look at
  705. chronic disease risk,
  706.  
  707. 148
  708. 00:06:48,074 --> 00:06:50,009
  709. all the things that we
  710. walk around worrying about.
  711.  
  712. 149
  713. 00:06:50,009 --> 00:06:53,246
  714. Actually, dietary
  715. choices trump smoking
  716.  
  717. 150
  718. 00:06:53,246 --> 00:06:54,914
  719. when it comes to those risks.
  720.  
  721. 151
  722. 00:06:54,914 --> 00:06:57,817
  723. - If I could deliver one
  724. message to the researchers
  725.  
  726. 152
  727. 00:06:57,817 --> 00:07:00,319
  728. who are looking for
  729. the cause of diabetes
  730.  
  731. 153
  732. 00:07:00,319 --> 00:07:01,988
  733. and the cause of
  734. clogged arteries,
  735.  
  736. 154
  737. 00:07:01,988 --> 00:07:03,723
  738. and the cause of
  739. high blood pressure,
  740.  
  741. 155
  742. 00:07:03,723 --> 00:07:06,125
  743. and the cause of obesity,
  744. I would tell them,
  745.  
  746. 156
  747. 00:07:06,125 --> 00:07:09,428
  748. the answer's in three words,
  749. it's the food.
  750.  
  751. 157
  752. 00:07:09,428 --> 00:07:11,464
  753. It's what Americans are eating.
  754.  
  755. 158
  756. 00:07:11,464 --> 00:07:13,966
  757. - [Kip] Today, with 2/3 of
  758. Americans being overweight,
  759.  
  760. 159
  761. 00:07:13,966 --> 00:07:16,602
  762. clearly, there's a food issue.
  763.  
  764. 160
  765. 00:07:16,602 --> 00:07:18,004
  766. In the next 25 years,
  767.  
  768. 161
  769. 00:07:18,004 --> 00:07:21,607
  770. one out of every three
  771. Americans will have diabetes.
  772.  
  773. 162
  774. 00:07:21,607 --> 00:07:23,509
  775. - My name's Michael Abdalla.
  776.  
  777. 163
  778. 00:07:23,509 --> 00:07:26,746
  779. I'm from Atlanta, Georgia,
  780. and unfortunately,
  781.  
  782. 164
  783. 00:07:26,746 --> 00:07:29,949
  784. I was diagnosed about 10
  785. years ago with diabetes,
  786.  
  787. 165
  788. 00:07:29,949 --> 00:07:33,319
  789. and eight years ago, I
  790. had two stents put in.
  791.  
  792. 166
  793. 00:07:33,319 --> 00:07:35,588
  794. I don't know where to
  795. go, I don't know what do,
  796.  
  797. 167
  798. 00:07:35,588 --> 00:07:38,391
  799. you just like add the options
  800. and you don't know what to do.
  801.  
  802. 168
  803. 00:07:38,391 --> 00:07:40,426
  804. You take in medicine, you
  805. listen to this doctor,
  806.  
  807. 169
  808. 00:07:40,426 --> 00:07:42,995
  809. and the cardiologist
  810. says, "Take this,"
  811.  
  812. 170
  813. 00:07:42,995 --> 00:07:46,299
  814. and the endocrinologist
  815. says, "Take that,"
  816.  
  817. 171
  818. 00:07:46,299 --> 00:07:48,367
  819. then your general
  820. practitioner doctor says,
  821.  
  822. 172
  823. 00:07:48,367 --> 00:07:49,969
  824. "You don't know
  825. what's going on here."
  826.  
  827. 173
  828. 00:07:49,969 --> 00:07:52,371
  829. It's a real challenging thing
  830.  
  831. 174
  832. 00:07:53,506 --> 00:07:57,443
  833. and it's something that
  834. you don't wanna get.
  835.  
  836. 175
  837. 00:07:57,443 --> 00:07:58,911
  838. You just don't wanna get it.
  839.  
  840. 176
  841. 00:07:58,911 --> 00:08:01,080
  842. - [Kip] Government and media
  843. almost exclusively blame
  844.  
  845. 177
  846. 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,884
  847. lack of exercise and sugary
  848. foods as a cause of diabetes.
  849.  
  850. 178
  851. 00:08:04,884 --> 00:08:06,552
  852. But I wanted to talk
  853. with an actual expert
  854.  
  855. 179
  856. 00:08:06,552 --> 00:08:08,688
  857. on the role of diet in diabetes.
  858.  
  859. 180
  860. 00:08:08,688 --> 00:08:10,056
  861. I went to speak with
  862. premier physician,
  863.  
  864. 181
  865. 00:08:10,056 --> 00:08:13,793
  866. diabetes expert, and
  867. researcher, Dr. Neal Barnard.
  868.  
  869. 182
  870. 00:08:13,793 --> 00:08:17,396
  871. What role does sugar
  872. play in causing diabetes?
  873.  
  874. 183
  875. 00:08:17,396 --> 00:08:18,598
  876. - Drive me crazy.
  877.  
  878. 184
  879. 00:08:18,598 --> 00:08:21,000
  880. Diabetes is not and
  881. never was caused
  882.  
  883. 185
  884. 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,836
  885. by eating a high
  886. carbohydrate diet
  887.  
  888. 186
  889. 00:08:23,836 --> 00:08:25,371
  890. and it's not caused
  891. by eating sugar.
  892.  
  893. 187
  894. 00:08:25,371 --> 00:08:27,306
  895. The cause of diabetes is a diet
  896.  
  897. 188
  898. 00:08:27,306 --> 00:08:29,876
  899. that builds up the amount
  900. of fat into the blood.
  901.  
  902. 189
  903. 00:08:29,876 --> 00:08:33,145
  904. I'm talking about a typical
  905. meat-based, animal-based diet.
  906.  
  907. 190
  908. 00:08:33,145 --> 00:08:35,581
  909. You can look into the muscle
  910. cells of the human body
  911.  
  912. 191
  913. 00:08:35,581 --> 00:08:38,084
  914. and you find they're building
  915. up tiny particles of fat
  916.  
  917. 192
  918. 00:08:38,084 --> 00:08:40,386
  919. which is causing
  920. insulin resistance.
  921.  
  922. 193
  923. 00:08:40,386 --> 00:08:42,221
  924. What that means is the sugar
  925.  
  926. 194
  927. 00:08:42,221 --> 00:08:44,457
  928. that is naturally from the
  929. foods that you're eating
  930.  
  931. 195
  932. 00:08:44,457 --> 00:08:46,525
  933. can't get into the
  934. cells where it belongs.
  935.  
  936. 196
  937. 00:08:46,525 --> 00:08:49,095
  938. It builds up in the blood
  939. and that's diabetes.
  940.  
  941. 197
  942. 00:08:49,095 --> 00:08:50,329
  943. - [Kip] I had never
  944. heard that meat
  945.  
  946. 198
  947. 00:08:50,329 --> 00:08:52,164
  948. was associated with
  949. causing diabetes.
  950.  
  951. 199
  952. 00:08:52,164 --> 00:08:54,934
  953. We had always been told that
  954. sugar and obesity caused it.
  955.  
  956. 200
  957. 00:08:54,934 --> 00:08:56,402
  958. Renowned weight loss
  959. bariatric surgeon,
  960.  
  961. 201
  962. 00:08:56,402 --> 00:08:58,538
  963. Dr. Garth Davis, though agreed.
  964.  
  965. 202
  966. 00:08:58,538 --> 00:09:00,439
  967. - Everyone thinks that you
  968. diabetic because of carbs,
  969.  
  970. 203
  971. 00:09:00,439 --> 00:09:03,676
  972. did a huge study and that
  973. epic study, 500,000 people.
  974.  
  975. 204
  976. 00:09:03,676 --> 00:09:06,512
  977. Carbs consumption was
  978. inversely related to diabetes.
  979.  
  980. 205
  981. 00:09:06,512 --> 00:09:08,481
  982. In other words, the more
  983. carbs they wanna to eat,
  984.  
  985. 206
  986. 00:09:08,481 --> 00:09:12,351
  987. the less diabetes they had but
  988. meat was strongly correlated.
  989.  
  990. 207
  991. 00:09:12,351 --> 00:09:13,619
  992. Get that aha moment.
  993.  
  994. 208
  995. 00:09:13,619 --> 00:09:15,855
  996. The starches, the
  997. carbs are good for you.
  998.  
  999. 209
  1000. 00:09:15,855 --> 00:09:17,323
  1001. They're not bad for you.
  1002.  
  1003. 210
  1004. 00:09:17,323 --> 00:09:20,459
  1005. This idea that carbs make you
  1006. fat is utterly ridiculous.
  1007.  
  1008. 211
  1009. 00:09:20,459 --> 00:09:23,629
  1010. Carbs cannot make you
  1011. fat in and of themselves.
  1012.  
  1013. 212
  1014. 00:09:23,629 --> 00:09:26,065
  1015. We have storage in our muscles
  1016.  
  1017. 213
  1018. 00:09:26,065 --> 00:09:28,301
  1019. and in our liver for
  1020. carbs called glycogen.
  1021.  
  1022. 214
  1023. 00:09:28,301 --> 00:09:31,137
  1024. So, when we eat carbs, we
  1025. either store it or we burn it.
  1026.  
  1027. 215
  1028. 00:09:31,137 --> 00:09:33,606
  1029. Now, eat fat that goes
  1030. straight to you fat.
  1031.  
  1032. 216
  1033. 00:09:33,606 --> 00:09:36,375
  1034. Your body can't turn
  1035. those carbs into fat
  1036.  
  1037. 217
  1038. 00:09:36,375 --> 00:09:38,577
  1039. unless you're really
  1040. overdoing your calories.
  1041.  
  1042. 218
  1043. 00:09:38,577 --> 00:09:40,313
  1044. Basically, it's
  1045. a death sentence.
  1046.  
  1047. 219
  1048. 00:09:40,313 --> 00:09:42,248
  1049. You're at much higher
  1050. risk of getting cancer.
  1051.  
  1052. 220
  1053. 00:09:42,248 --> 00:09:44,483
  1054. You're almost certainly
  1055. gonna get diabetes.
  1056.  
  1057. 221
  1058. 00:09:44,483 --> 00:09:45,985
  1059. No one wants to fat shame
  1060.  
  1061. 222
  1062. 00:09:45,985 --> 00:09:47,753
  1063. and we all want everybody to
  1064. be comfortable with our bodies
  1065.  
  1066. 223
  1067. 00:09:47,753 --> 00:09:49,422
  1068. but this movement to be
  1069. comfortable with our bodies
  1070.  
  1071. 224
  1072. 00:09:49,422 --> 00:09:51,324
  1073. has made us comfortable
  1074. with being sick
  1075.  
  1076. 225
  1077. 00:09:51,324 --> 00:09:52,892
  1078. and that's a huge problem.
  1079.  
  1080. 226
  1081. 00:09:52,892 --> 00:09:54,627
  1082. I go into the hospital
  1083. and I look around me,
  1084.  
  1085. 227
  1086. 00:09:54,627 --> 00:09:56,963
  1087. people on dialysis,
  1088. all these sick people
  1089.  
  1090. 228
  1091. 00:09:56,963 --> 00:09:58,631
  1092. and just about every
  1093. disease in there
  1094.  
  1095. 229
  1096. 00:09:58,631 --> 00:10:00,433
  1097. is because of what
  1098. people are eating.
  1099.  
  1100. 230
  1101. 00:10:00,433 --> 00:10:03,669
  1102. - Here's the thing, if
  1103. I eat a sugary cookie,
  1104.  
  1105. 231
  1106. 00:10:03,669 --> 00:10:06,038
  1107. the sugar lures you in
  1108. like the Trojan Horse
  1109.  
  1110. 232
  1111. 00:10:06,038 --> 00:10:07,873
  1112. but waiting inside that cookie
  1113.  
  1114. 233
  1115. 00:10:07,873 --> 00:10:10,476
  1116. is a huge load of
  1117. butter or shortening
  1118.  
  1119. 234
  1120. 00:10:10,476 --> 00:10:11,711
  1121. and that's what fattens you up.
  1122.  
  1123. 235
  1124. 00:10:11,711 --> 00:10:13,679
  1125. That's the part that
  1126. leads to the diabetes.
  1127.  
  1128. 236
  1129. 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:15,848
  1130. It's the fatty foods, not
  1131. really so much the sugar.
  1132.  
  1133. 237
  1134. 00:10:15,848 --> 00:10:17,350
  1135. - It's not that
  1136. sugar's good for you.
  1137.  
  1138. 238
  1139. 00:10:17,350 --> 00:10:19,652
  1140. There's no nutrients in
  1141. it, it's excess calories,
  1142.  
  1143. 239
  1144. 00:10:19,652 --> 00:10:20,786
  1145. but when you eat sugar,
  1146.  
  1147. 240
  1148. 00:10:20,786 --> 00:10:22,655
  1149. you don't get
  1150. inflammation right away.
  1151.  
  1152. 241
  1153. 00:10:22,655 --> 00:10:24,623
  1154. When you eat sugar,
  1155. you're not getting plaques
  1156.  
  1157. 242
  1158. 00:10:24,623 --> 00:10:26,125
  1159. forming in your vessels.
  1160.  
  1161. 243
  1162. 00:10:26,125 --> 00:10:28,027
  1163. When you're eating sugar,
  1164. your body's gonna store
  1165.  
  1166. 244
  1167. 00:10:28,027 --> 00:10:31,697
  1168. most of it as glycogen
  1169. or burn it as calories.
  1170.  
  1171. 245
  1172. 00:10:31,697 --> 00:10:35,568
  1173. So, this focus on sugar
  1174. has taken all the focus off
  1175.  
  1176. 246
  1177. 00:10:35,568 --> 00:10:39,772
  1178. meat, dairy, eggs,
  1179. pork, turkey, chicken.
  1180.  
  1181. 247
  1182. 00:10:39,772 --> 00:10:41,574
  1183. - People need to understand.
  1184.  
  1185. 248
  1186. 00:10:41,574 --> 00:10:43,476
  1187. If their gets diabetes,
  1188.  
  1189. 249
  1190. 00:10:43,476 --> 00:10:46,912
  1191. you've just take 19 years
  1192. off their life span.
  1193.  
  1194. 250
  1195. 00:10:46,912 --> 00:10:48,948
  1196. We're talking life and death.
  1197.  
  1198. 251
  1199. 00:10:48,948 --> 00:10:50,416
  1200. - I realized, there
  1201. was so much more
  1202.  
  1203. 252
  1204. 00:10:50,416 --> 00:10:52,852
  1205. about diet and disease
  1206. that I hadn't ever learned.
  1207.  
  1208. 253
  1209. 00:10:52,852 --> 00:10:54,286
  1210. It felt as if this information
  1211.  
  1212. 254
  1213. 00:10:54,286 --> 00:10:56,022
  1214. had been practically withheld.
  1215.  
  1216. 255
  1217. 00:10:56,022 --> 00:10:57,857
  1218. Processed meat causes cancer.
  1219.  
  1220. 256
  1221. 00:10:57,857 --> 00:11:00,259
  1222. Sugar doesn't cause diabetes.
  1223.  
  1224. 257
  1225. 00:11:00,259 --> 00:11:02,428
  1226. I had doubt about the claims
  1227. these doctors are making
  1228.  
  1229. 258
  1230. 00:11:02,428 --> 00:11:04,764
  1231. so I did some
  1232. searching on my own.
  1233.  
  1234. 259
  1235. 00:11:04,764 --> 00:11:06,899
  1236. Harvard researchers looked
  1237. at nine perspective studies
  1238.  
  1239. 260
  1240. 00:11:06,899 --> 00:11:09,668
  1241. finding that just one serving
  1242. of processed meat per day
  1243.  
  1244. 261
  1245. 00:11:09,668 --> 00:11:13,839
  1246. increased risk of
  1247. developing diabetes by 51%.
  1248.  
  1249. 262
  1250. 00:11:13,839 --> 00:11:15,074
  1251. The link between eating meat
  1252.  
  1253. 263
  1254. 00:11:15,074 --> 00:11:17,977
  1255. and developing diabetes
  1256. became undeniable.
  1257.  
  1258. 264
  1259. 00:11:17,977 --> 00:11:19,178
  1260. But when I went on
  1261.  
  1262. 265
  1263. 00:11:19,178 --> 00:11:20,946
  1264. the leading diabetes
  1265. organization's website,
  1266.  
  1267. 266
  1268. 00:11:20,946 --> 00:11:22,915
  1269. the American
  1270. Diabetes Association,
  1271.  
  1272. 267
  1273. 00:11:22,915 --> 00:11:24,583
  1274. not only did they not
  1275. have this information
  1276.  
  1277. 268
  1278. 00:11:24,583 --> 00:11:27,386
  1279. front and center, they
  1280. were featuring recipes
  1281.  
  1282. 269
  1283. 00:11:27,386 --> 00:11:30,056
  1284. for red and processed
  1285. meat and on there,
  1286.  
  1287. 270
  1288. 00:11:30,056 --> 00:11:31,991
  1289. Recipes for Healthy Living.
  1290.  
  1291. 271
  1292. 00:11:31,991 --> 00:11:34,193
  1293. They had bacon wrapped shrimp?
  1294.  
  1295. 272
  1296. 00:11:34,193 --> 00:11:36,328
  1297. What the health?
  1298.  
  1299. 273
  1300. 00:11:36,328 --> 00:11:38,564
  1301. All right, send an email to
  1302. American Diabetes Association,
  1303.  
  1304. 274
  1305. 00:11:38,564 --> 00:11:40,633
  1306. see if they get back to us.
  1307.  
  1308. 275
  1309. 00:11:40,633 --> 00:11:42,401
  1310. As destructive as diabetes is,
  1311.  
  1312. 276
  1313. 00:11:42,401 --> 00:11:44,336
  1314. it pales in comparison
  1315. to heart disease.
  1316.  
  1317. 277
  1318. 00:11:44,336 --> 00:11:47,139
  1319. Over 17 million
  1320. people die every year
  1321.  
  1322. 278
  1323. 00:11:47,139 --> 00:11:49,141
  1324. from cardiovascular disease.
  1325.  
  1326. 279
  1327. 00:11:49,141 --> 00:11:51,644
  1328. It is the leading cause
  1329. of death around the world.
  1330.  
  1331. 280
  1332. 00:11:51,644 --> 00:11:54,146
  1333. Nearly, one out of
  1334. every three people
  1335.  
  1336. 281
  1337. 00:11:54,146 --> 00:11:56,115
  1338. will die from this disease.
  1339.  
  1340. 282
  1341. 00:11:56,115 --> 00:11:58,584
  1342. The amount of people who die
  1343. from cardiovascular disease
  1344.  
  1345. 283
  1346. 00:11:58,584 --> 00:12:01,020
  1347. is the equivalent
  1348. of four jumbo jets
  1349.  
  1350. 284
  1351. 00:12:01,020 --> 00:12:03,222
  1352. crashing every single hour
  1353.  
  1354. 285
  1355. 00:12:03,222 --> 00:12:06,225
  1356. every single day,
  1357. every single year.
  1358.  
  1359. 286
  1360. 00:12:10,896 --> 00:12:12,064
  1361. - My name is Amy Resnic,
  1362.  
  1363. 287
  1364. 00:12:12,064 --> 00:12:14,333
  1365. and I'm from Swampscott,
  1366. Massachusetts,
  1367.  
  1368. 288
  1369. 00:12:14,333 --> 00:12:16,102
  1370. little bit north of Boston.
  1371.  
  1372. 289
  1373. 00:12:16,102 --> 00:12:19,772
  1374. And I recently went to
  1375. my doctor for asthma
  1376.  
  1377. 290
  1378. 00:12:19,772 --> 00:12:21,907
  1379. because I had a very
  1380. hard time breathing
  1381.  
  1382. 291
  1383. 00:12:21,907 --> 00:12:24,810
  1384. and while there, she
  1385. did some blood work
  1386.  
  1387. 292
  1388. 00:12:24,810 --> 00:12:28,414
  1389. and one of the tests
  1390. was C-reactive protein
  1391.  
  1392. 293
  1393. 00:12:31,684 --> 00:12:33,986
  1394. and that was a scale
  1395. of one to three.
  1396.  
  1397. 294
  1398. 00:12:33,986 --> 00:12:36,188
  1399. One being low for cardiac event,
  1400.  
  1401. 295
  1402. 00:12:36,188 --> 00:12:38,190
  1403. three being high
  1404. for a cardiac event,
  1405.  
  1406. 296
  1407. 00:12:38,190 --> 00:12:40,192
  1408. and my number was 10.82.
  1409.  
  1410. 297
  1411. 00:12:41,627 --> 00:12:42,862
  1412. - What does that means.
  1413.  
  1414. 298
  1415. 00:12:42,862 --> 00:12:45,164
  1416. - That means I am on the
  1417. road for heart attack
  1418.  
  1419. 299
  1420. 00:12:45,164 --> 00:12:48,467
  1421. and she said, "Probably,
  1422. within the next 30 days."
  1423.  
  1424. 300
  1425. 00:12:48,467 --> 00:12:50,302
  1426. - 30 days?
  1427. - 30 days,
  1428.  
  1429. 301
  1430. 00:12:50,302 --> 00:12:52,404
  1431. if I'm going the
  1432. way I was going.
  1433.  
  1434. 302
  1435. 00:12:52,404 --> 00:12:55,407
  1436. I take this for my
  1437. heart arrhythmia,
  1438.  
  1439. 303
  1440. 00:12:57,109 --> 00:13:00,346
  1441. take this for pain,
  1442. oxycodone for pain,
  1443.  
  1444. 304
  1445. 00:13:01,614 --> 00:13:03,716
  1446. and lorazepam for stress,
  1447.  
  1448. 305
  1449. 00:13:05,284 --> 00:13:07,853
  1450. cyclobenzaprine
  1451. for muscle relaxer.
  1452.  
  1453. 306
  1454. 00:13:07,853 --> 00:13:10,489
  1455. Also take Topamax and Prozac
  1456.  
  1457. 307
  1458. 00:13:10,489 --> 00:13:13,959
  1459. and I also use a CPAP
  1460. machine to help me breathe,
  1461.  
  1462. 308
  1463. 00:13:13,959 --> 00:13:18,330
  1464. and my asthma has been
  1465. so bad this past year.
  1466.  
  1467. 309
  1468. 00:13:18,330 --> 00:13:22,268
  1469. I used to turn the day
  1470. as well to get some air.
  1471.  
  1472. 310
  1473. 00:13:22,268 --> 00:13:26,338
  1474. I am tired when I wake up,
  1475. I'm tired during the day.
  1476.  
  1477. 311
  1478. 00:13:26,338 --> 00:13:30,609
  1479. I take a nap, I'm so
  1480. tired, I can't breathe,
  1481.  
  1482. 312
  1483. 00:13:30,609 --> 00:13:34,780
  1484. and I know I need to make
  1485. at change for my health,
  1486.  
  1487. 313
  1488. 00:13:36,448 --> 00:13:39,952
  1489. I also am not gonna
  1490. be here for my family.
  1491.  
  1492. 314
  1493. 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:42,388
  1494. - When we speak
  1495. of heart disease,
  1496.  
  1497. 315
  1498. 00:13:42,388 --> 00:13:44,757
  1499. I would say the role of
  1500. alcohol is pretty small.
  1501.  
  1502. 316
  1503. 00:13:44,757 --> 00:13:47,526
  1504. The role of sugar
  1505. is very small too.
  1506.  
  1507. 317
  1508. 00:13:47,526 --> 00:13:49,461
  1509. Smoking is big,
  1510. but the good news
  1511.  
  1512. 318
  1513. 00:13:49,461 --> 00:13:52,331
  1514. is that most people have
  1515. quit or never did smoke.
  1516.  
  1517. 319
  1518. 00:13:52,331 --> 00:13:54,099
  1519. The problem with
  1520. animal-based diet,
  1521.  
  1522. 320
  1523. 00:13:54,099 --> 00:13:56,368
  1524. it's contribution to
  1525. heart disease is huge,
  1526.  
  1527. 321
  1528. 00:13:56,368 --> 00:13:57,670
  1529. and it is pervasive.
  1530.  
  1531. 322
  1532. 00:13:57,670 --> 00:14:01,106
  1533. - All these expensive
  1534. imaging, procedures,
  1535.  
  1536. 323
  1537. 00:14:02,441 --> 00:14:04,176
  1538. bypasses, medication,
  1539.  
  1540. 324
  1541. 00:14:05,611 --> 00:14:09,682
  1542. none of which has one
  1543. solitary single thing to do
  1544.  
  1545. 325
  1546. 00:14:10,883 --> 00:14:12,484
  1547. with the causation
  1548. of the illness
  1549.  
  1550. 326
  1551. 00:14:12,484 --> 00:14:14,253
  1552. so you die with a
  1553. completely benign,
  1554.  
  1555. 327
  1556. 00:14:14,253 --> 00:14:15,521
  1557. full-blown illness,
  1558.  
  1559. 328
  1560. 00:14:15,521 --> 00:14:17,523
  1561. that never had its
  1562. causation treated.
  1563.  
  1564. 329
  1565. 00:14:17,523 --> 00:14:21,060
  1566. - When we eat these kind of
  1567. dead meat bacteria toxins,
  1568.  
  1569. 330
  1570. 00:14:21,060 --> 00:14:23,362
  1571. within minutes,
  1572. we get this burst
  1573.  
  1574. 331
  1575. 00:14:23,362 --> 00:14:25,598
  1576. of inflammation
  1577. within your system
  1578.  
  1579. 332
  1580. 00:14:25,598 --> 00:14:27,733
  1581. such that you basically
  1582. paralyze your arteries.
  1583.  
  1584. 333
  1585. 00:14:27,733 --> 00:14:29,134
  1586. So, you get this
  1587. stiffening of the arteries,
  1588.  
  1589. 334
  1590. 00:14:29,134 --> 00:14:32,238
  1591. their inability to
  1592. relax normally in half.
  1593.  
  1594. 335
  1595. 00:14:32,238 --> 00:14:35,140
  1596. It's not like decades down
  1597. the road, eating unhealthy,
  1598.  
  1599. 336
  1600. 00:14:35,140 --> 00:14:36,408
  1601. there'll be some damage, no.
  1602.  
  1603. 337
  1604. 00:14:36,408 --> 00:14:38,110
  1605. We're talking damage
  1606. right then and there
  1607.  
  1608. 338
  1609. 00:14:38,110 --> 00:14:40,246
  1610. within minutes of
  1611. going into our mouth.
  1612.  
  1613. 339
  1614. 00:14:40,246 --> 00:14:44,617
  1615. - Many people are given the
  1616. diagnosis of Alzheimer's disease
  1617.  
  1618. 340
  1619. 00:14:44,617 --> 00:14:47,253
  1620. when it's not true
  1621. Alzheimer's at all.
  1622.  
  1623. 341
  1624. 00:14:47,253 --> 00:14:49,121
  1625. The vast majority of
  1626. people suffered dementia
  1627.  
  1628. 342
  1629. 00:14:49,121 --> 00:14:51,023
  1630. through that their
  1631. tiny blood vessels
  1632.  
  1633. 343
  1634. 00:14:51,023 --> 00:14:54,326
  1635. in their brain clogging
  1636. up and their nerve cells
  1637.  
  1638. 344
  1639. 00:14:54,326 --> 00:14:56,462
  1640. being short-changed
  1641. of oxygenated blood
  1642.  
  1643. 345
  1644. 00:14:56,462 --> 00:14:58,697
  1645. and guess where their blood
  1646. vessel eventually comes from,
  1647.  
  1648. 346
  1649. 00:14:58,697 --> 00:15:00,699
  1650. those little tiny
  1651. arteries are clogging up
  1652.  
  1653. 347
  1654. 00:15:00,699 --> 00:15:03,602
  1655. from that steady stream of
  1656. fat, cholesterol, et cetera.
  1657.  
  1658. 348
  1659. 00:15:03,602 --> 00:15:06,205
  1660. - It's really quite clear
  1661. from the standpoint of cancer
  1662.  
  1663. 349
  1664. 00:15:06,205 --> 00:15:08,507
  1665. and the standpoint of
  1666. cardiovascular disease,
  1667.  
  1668. 350
  1669. 00:15:08,507 --> 00:15:11,243
  1670. that animal protein
  1671. plays an enormous role.
  1672.  
  1673. 351
  1674. 00:15:11,243 --> 00:15:13,912
  1675. - [Kip] Is chicken better?
  1676.  
  1677. 352
  1678. 00:15:13,912 --> 00:15:16,282
  1679. - It's question of whether
  1680. you be shot or hung.
  1681.  
  1682. 353
  1683. 00:15:16,282 --> 00:15:18,250
  1684. - The flesh food that
  1685. I would eliminate
  1686.  
  1687. 354
  1688. 00:15:18,250 --> 00:15:20,519
  1689. from the American
  1690. diet would be poultry,
  1691.  
  1692. 355
  1693. 00:15:20,519 --> 00:15:22,087
  1694. would be turkey and chicken.
  1695.  
  1696. 356
  1697. 00:15:22,087 --> 00:15:23,989
  1698. Their brilliant
  1699. advertising campaign
  1700.  
  1701. 357
  1702. 00:15:23,989 --> 00:15:25,257
  1703. has convinced people that,
  1704.  
  1705. 358
  1706. 00:15:25,257 --> 00:15:27,192
  1707. "Oh, it's white meat,
  1708. it's healthier."
  1709.  
  1710. 359
  1711. 00:15:27,192 --> 00:15:29,528
  1712. - The leading source of sodium
  1713.  
  1714. 360
  1715. 00:15:29,528 --> 00:15:33,399
  1716. in the American diet
  1717. for adult is chicken.
  1718.  
  1719. 361
  1720. 00:15:33,399 --> 00:15:35,000
  1721. It can be labeled
  1722. all-natural chicken
  1723.  
  1724. 362
  1725. 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:36,735
  1726. but they inject it
  1727. with a salt water,
  1728.  
  1729. 363
  1730. 00:15:36,735 --> 00:15:38,904
  1731. I think, up to 800
  1732. milligrams of sodium.
  1733.  
  1734. 364
  1735. 00:15:38,904 --> 00:15:41,240
  1736. - Heterocyclic amines
  1737. are clear cut carcinogens
  1738.  
  1739. 365
  1740. 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,609
  1741. and they can form
  1742. in any kind of meat
  1743.  
  1744. 366
  1745. 00:15:43,609 --> 00:15:45,444
  1746. as it's heated, as it's cooked,
  1747.  
  1748. 367
  1749. 00:15:45,444 --> 00:15:48,881
  1750. but by far, the biggest
  1751. source is chicken.
  1752.  
  1753. 368
  1754. 00:15:48,881 --> 00:15:52,751
  1755. We sent researchers into fast
  1756. food and family restaurants.
  1757.  
  1758. 369
  1759. 00:15:52,751 --> 00:15:56,055
  1760. Not only were there carcinogens
  1761. in every single restaurant.
  1762.  
  1763. 370
  1764. 00:15:56,055 --> 00:15:58,924
  1765. Well, we found them in
  1766. every single chicken sample
  1767.  
  1768. 371
  1769. 00:15:58,924 --> 00:15:59,858
  1770. that we took.
  1771.  
  1772. 372
  1773. 00:15:59,858 --> 00:16:01,226
  1774. If somebody brings their family
  1775.  
  1776. 373
  1777. 00:16:01,226 --> 00:16:03,128
  1778. and then they're buying
  1779. a bucket of chicken,
  1780.  
  1781. 374
  1782. 00:16:03,128 --> 00:16:04,997
  1783. nobody tells them that
  1784. there are carcinogens.
  1785.  
  1786. 375
  1787. 00:16:04,997 --> 00:16:07,599
  1788. If you're selling
  1789. carcinogens to people,
  1790.  
  1791. 376
  1792. 00:16:07,599 --> 00:16:09,702
  1793. you've gotta warn them
  1794. that they're in there.
  1795.  
  1796. 377
  1797. 00:16:09,702 --> 00:16:11,670
  1798. - [Kip] But the American Cancer
  1799. Society encourages people
  1800.  
  1801. 378
  1802. 00:16:11,670 --> 00:16:14,406
  1803. to switch from red and
  1804. processed meat to chicken.
  1805.  
  1806. 379
  1807. 00:16:14,406 --> 00:16:16,342
  1808. Why would the American
  1809. Cancer Society tell people
  1810.  
  1811. 380
  1812. 00:16:16,342 --> 00:16:19,178
  1813. to switch from eating one
  1814. carcinogenic food to another
  1815.  
  1816. 381
  1817. 00:16:19,178 --> 00:16:20,479
  1818. when a Harvard University study
  1819.  
  1820. 382
  1821. 00:16:20,479 --> 00:16:22,114
  1822. showed that men
  1823. with prostate cancer
  1824.  
  1825. 383
  1826. 00:16:22,114 --> 00:16:23,615
  1827. who eat large amounts of chicken
  1828.  
  1829. 384
  1830. 00:16:23,615 --> 00:16:27,086
  1831. increased their risk of the
  1832. disease progressing four times?
  1833.  
  1834. 385
  1835. 00:16:27,086 --> 00:16:30,222
  1836. - The number one dietary source
  1837. in America of cholesterol
  1838.  
  1839. 386
  1840. 00:16:30,222 --> 00:16:32,057
  1841. is chicken because
  1842. the volume of chicken.
  1843.  
  1844. 387
  1845. 00:16:32,057 --> 00:16:35,194
  1846. Chickens become grilled
  1847. chicken and organic chicken,
  1848.  
  1849. 388
  1850. 00:16:35,194 --> 00:16:37,863
  1851. if it's machismo,
  1852. but it has nearly
  1853.  
  1854. 389
  1855. 00:16:37,863 --> 00:16:40,165
  1856. as much cholesterol
  1857. per gram as red beef
  1858.  
  1859. 390
  1860. 00:16:40,165 --> 00:16:42,668
  1861. suggests that sheer volume
  1862. is the number one source
  1863.  
  1864. 391
  1865. 00:16:42,668 --> 00:16:44,336
  1866. yet eggs being close by.
  1867.  
  1868. 392
  1869. 00:16:44,336 --> 00:16:46,205
  1870. - [Kip] I'd never really
  1871. thought about eggs much.
  1872.  
  1873. 393
  1874. 00:16:46,205 --> 00:16:47,439
  1875. I just thought of them
  1876.  
  1877. 394
  1878. 00:16:47,439 --> 00:16:49,208
  1879. as a standard part
  1880. of the healthy diet.
  1881.  
  1882. 395
  1883. 00:16:49,208 --> 00:16:50,709
  1884. But then, I found
  1885. a study suggesting
  1886.  
  1887. 396
  1888. 00:16:50,709 --> 00:16:53,145
  1889. that eating just one
  1890. egg a day can be as bad
  1891.  
  1892. 397
  1893. 00:16:53,145 --> 00:16:57,249
  1894. as smoking five cigarettes
  1895. per day for life expectancy.
  1896.  
  1897. 398
  1898. 00:16:57,249 --> 00:17:00,619
  1899. - The yolk of a hen's egg is
  1900. the most concentrated glom
  1901.  
  1902. 399
  1903. 00:17:00,619 --> 00:17:03,055
  1904. of saturated fat
  1905. and cholesterol.
  1906.  
  1907. 400
  1908. 00:17:03,055 --> 00:17:05,858
  1909. It is made to run a
  1910. baby chicken for 21 days
  1911.  
  1912. 401
  1913. 00:17:05,858 --> 00:17:07,726
  1914. with no outside energy.
  1915.  
  1916. 402
  1917. 00:17:07,726 --> 00:17:09,328
  1918. It is pure fat and cholesterol.
  1919.  
  1920. 403
  1921. 00:17:09,328 --> 00:17:11,964
  1922. And when we put that
  1923. into our blood stream,
  1924.  
  1925. 404
  1926. 00:17:11,964 --> 00:17:13,232
  1927. it coats our red blood cells,
  1928.  
  1929. 405
  1930. 00:17:13,232 --> 00:17:15,634
  1931. our blood gets thicker
  1932. and more viscous.
  1933.  
  1934. 406
  1935. 00:17:15,634 --> 00:17:17,136
  1936. It changes our hormone levels.
  1937.  
  1938. 407
  1939. 00:17:17,136 --> 00:17:18,737
  1940. It raises our
  1941. cholesterol levels.
  1942.  
  1943. 408
  1944. 00:17:18,737 --> 00:17:21,840
  1945. There's nothing healthy
  1946. about eating yolk of the egg.
  1947.  
  1948. 409
  1949. 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:23,308
  1950. - [Kip] But I thought
  1951. cholesterol and saturated fat
  1952.  
  1953. 410
  1954. 00:17:23,308 --> 00:17:25,477
  1955. wasn't an issue anymore?
  1956.  
  1957. 411
  1958. 00:17:25,477 --> 00:17:27,379
  1959. - You know, these saturated
  1960. fat studies that have come out,
  1961.  
  1962. 412
  1963. 00:17:27,379 --> 00:17:29,214
  1964. trying to vindicate
  1965. saturated fat.
  1966.  
  1967. 413
  1968. 00:17:29,214 --> 00:17:30,916
  1969. That's a campaign by
  1970. the dairy industry.
  1971.  
  1972. 414
  1973. 00:17:30,916 --> 00:17:34,486
  1974. Number one source of saturated
  1975. fat is dairy, it's not meat.
  1976.  
  1977. 415
  1978. 00:17:34,486 --> 00:17:37,222
  1979. 2008, the global dairy industry
  1980. got together at a meeting
  1981.  
  1982. 416
  1983. 00:17:37,222 --> 00:17:39,558
  1984. and explicitly read their agenda
  1985.  
  1986. 417
  1987. 00:17:39,558 --> 00:17:43,195
  1988. was to neutralize the
  1989. negative impact of milk fat
  1990.  
  1991. 418
  1992. 00:17:43,195 --> 00:17:45,864
  1993. by regulators and medical
  1994. professionals, unquote.
  1995.  
  1996. 419
  1997. 00:17:45,864 --> 00:17:47,533
  1998. So, what they do,
  1999. they funded studies.
  2000.  
  2001. 420
  2002. 00:17:47,533 --> 00:17:48,734
  2003. - [Kip] The main
  2004. study that started
  2005.  
  2006. 421
  2007. 00:17:48,734 --> 00:17:50,669
  2008. the whole saturated
  2009. fat media craze
  2010.  
  2011. 422
  2012. 00:17:50,669 --> 00:17:53,372
  2013. was funded by the
  2014. National Dairy Council.
  2015.  
  2016. 423
  2017. 00:17:53,372 --> 00:17:55,441
  2018. The egg industry
  2019. similarly fund studies
  2020.  
  2021. 424
  2022. 00:17:55,441 --> 00:17:57,342
  2023. that confuse consumers
  2024. by making claims
  2025.  
  2026. 425
  2027. 00:17:57,342 --> 00:17:59,745
  2028. that eggs don't negatively
  2029. affect heart function.
  2030.  
  2031. 426
  2032. 00:17:59,745 --> 00:18:01,447
  2033. That is only when
  2034. compared to eating
  2035.  
  2036. 427
  2037. 00:18:01,447 --> 00:18:04,116
  2038. a McDonald's Sausage McMuffin?
  2039.  
  2040. 428
  2041. 00:18:04,116 --> 00:18:05,584
  2042. So, what they're
  2043. really saying is that
  2044.  
  2045. 429
  2046. 00:18:05,584 --> 00:18:08,620
  2047. eating eggs is just as
  2048. bad as eating a McMuffin.
  2049.  
  2050. 430
  2051. 00:18:08,620 --> 00:18:10,923
  2052. - When you eat foods
  2053. like beef or steak
  2054.  
  2055. 431
  2056. 00:18:10,923 --> 00:18:12,958
  2057. or a processed meat, a hotdog,
  2058.  
  2059. 432
  2060. 00:18:12,958 --> 00:18:14,326
  2061. you're not just
  2062. getting saturated fat,
  2063.  
  2064. 433
  2065. 00:18:14,326 --> 00:18:17,029
  2066. you're also getting
  2067. other additional toxins
  2068.  
  2069. 434
  2070. 00:18:17,029 --> 00:18:18,464
  2071. that are in that food.
  2072.  
  2073. 435
  2074. 00:18:18,464 --> 00:18:20,732
  2075. There's heme iron, carcinogens,
  2076. and processing chemicals.
  2077.  
  2078. 436
  2079. 00:18:20,732 --> 00:18:22,601
  2080. This is all a lot
  2081. more complicated
  2082.  
  2083. 437
  2084. 00:18:22,601 --> 00:18:24,770
  2085. than just looking
  2086. at saturated fat.
  2087.  
  2088. 438
  2089. 00:18:24,770 --> 00:18:28,674
  2090. - The strategy is not on making
  2091. their products any safer.
  2092.  
  2093. 439
  2094. 00:18:28,674 --> 00:18:31,910
  2095. The strategy is to just
  2096. try to confuse the public
  2097.  
  2098. 440
  2099. 00:18:31,910 --> 00:18:33,579
  2100. to introduce doubt.
  2101.  
  2102. 441
  2103. 00:18:33,579 --> 00:18:35,547
  2104. You know, there was a famous
  2105. tobacco industry memo.
  2106.  
  2107. 442
  2108. 00:18:35,547 --> 00:18:37,549
  2109. It's called, Doubt
  2110. is our product.
  2111.  
  2112. 443
  2113. 00:18:37,549 --> 00:18:38,817
  2114. That's all they had to do.
  2115.  
  2116. 444
  2117. 00:18:38,817 --> 00:18:40,486
  2118. They didn't have to
  2119. convince the Americans
  2120.  
  2121. 445
  2122. 00:18:40,486 --> 00:18:42,554
  2123. that smoking was healthy, right?
  2124.  
  2125. 446
  2126. 00:18:42,554 --> 00:18:46,225
  2127. They just had to introduce
  2128. doubt then they would win.
  2129.  
  2130. 447
  2131. 00:18:46,225 --> 00:18:47,926
  2132. Well, if there's just
  2133. enough controversy,
  2134.  
  2135. 448
  2136. 00:18:47,926 --> 00:18:49,461
  2137. people kinda throw
  2138. up their hands,
  2139.  
  2140. 449
  2141. 00:18:49,461 --> 00:18:50,496
  2142. "I don't know what to eat."
  2143.  
  2144. 450
  2145. 00:18:50,496 --> 00:18:52,498
  2146. Confusion is their gain.
  2147.  
  2148. 451
  2149. 00:18:53,866 --> 00:18:55,767
  2150. I really don't think people
  2151. thought what they ate
  2152.  
  2153. 452
  2154. 00:18:55,767 --> 00:18:57,236
  2155. led to heart disease.
  2156.  
  2157. 453
  2158. 00:18:57,236 --> 00:18:59,171
  2159. They think. "Oh, it's
  2160. genetic, my parents had it."
  2161.  
  2162. 454
  2163. 00:18:59,171 --> 00:19:01,006
  2164. I don't think
  2165. people really think
  2166.  
  2167. 455
  2168. 00:19:01,006 --> 00:19:02,541
  2169. that what they ate
  2170. lead to diabetes.
  2171.  
  2172. 456
  2173. 00:19:02,541 --> 00:19:04,543
  2174. They think, "Oh, my parents
  2175. had it, I was gonna get it."
  2176.  
  2177. 457
  2178. 00:19:04,543 --> 00:19:06,478
  2179. And certainly, cancer,
  2180. they don't think that way.
  2181.  
  2182. 458
  2183. 00:19:06,478 --> 00:19:09,314
  2184. - People have bad lifestyles
  2185. that they've inherited.
  2186.  
  2187. 459
  2188. 00:19:09,314 --> 00:19:10,916
  2189. Environmentally,
  2190. they've been exposed
  2191.  
  2192. 460
  2193. 00:19:10,916 --> 00:19:12,518
  2194. to a certain way of
  2195. eating and living
  2196.  
  2197. 461
  2198. 00:19:12,518 --> 00:19:14,720
  2199. they've carried on
  2200. into their adulthood,
  2201.  
  2202. 462
  2203. 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,255
  2204. passed on to their children.
  2205.  
  2206. 463
  2207. 00:19:16,255 --> 00:19:19,858
  2208. That is why they go on to
  2209. develop the same diseases
  2210.  
  2211. 464
  2212. 00:19:19,858 --> 00:19:22,661
  2213. that their parents
  2214. and grandparents may
  2215. have had before them
  2216.  
  2217. 465
  2218. 00:19:22,661 --> 00:19:24,229
  2219. but it is not inevitable.
  2220.  
  2221. 466
  2222. 00:19:24,229 --> 00:19:25,998
  2223. - Even if you have a
  2224. genetic predisposition,
  2225.  
  2226. 467
  2227. 00:19:25,998 --> 00:19:28,700
  2228. it doesn't mean it's going
  2229. to necessarily manifest.
  2230.  
  2231. 468
  2232. 00:19:28,700 --> 00:19:30,435
  2233. What determines whether
  2234. it manifests or not,
  2235.  
  2236. 469
  2237. 00:19:30,435 --> 00:19:32,104
  2238. maybe those
  2239. epigenetic variables,
  2240.  
  2241. 470
  2242. 00:19:32,104 --> 00:19:33,539
  2243. the things that you can control.
  2244.  
  2245. 471
  2246. 00:19:33,539 --> 00:19:35,407
  2247. The environmental factors,
  2248. the dietary factors,
  2249.  
  2250. 472
  2251. 00:19:35,407 --> 00:19:36,875
  2252. the lifestyle factors.
  2253.  
  2254. 473
  2255. 00:19:36,875 --> 00:19:39,444
  2256. - So, we can actually change
  2257. the expression of genes.
  2258.  
  2259. 474
  2260. 00:19:39,444 --> 00:19:41,847
  2261. Tumor-suppressing genes,
  2262. tumor activating genes
  2263.  
  2264. 475
  2265. 00:19:41,847 --> 00:19:45,117
  2266. by what we eat, what
  2267. we put into our bodies.
  2268.  
  2269. 476
  2270. 00:19:45,117 --> 00:19:49,488
  2271. So, even if you've been
  2272. dealt a bad genetic deck,
  2273.  
  2274. 477
  2275. 00:19:49,488 --> 00:19:52,424
  2276. you can still
  2277. reshuffle it with diet.
  2278.  
  2279. 478
  2280. 00:19:52,424 --> 00:19:53,892
  2281. - I'd always thought
  2282.  
  2283. 479
  2284. 00:19:53,892 --> 00:19:55,394
  2285. that I would develop heart
  2286. disease at a young age
  2287.  
  2288. 480
  2289. 00:19:55,394 --> 00:19:57,362
  2290. because both my dad and
  2291. grandpa had heart attacks.
  2292.  
  2293. 481
  2294. 00:19:57,362 --> 00:19:59,164
  2295. I was taught that
  2296. they were genetic,
  2297.  
  2298. 482
  2299. 00:19:59,164 --> 00:20:01,266
  2300. but the heart attacks probably
  2301. had less to do with genes
  2302.  
  2303. 483
  2304. 00:20:01,266 --> 00:20:03,669
  2305. and more to do with
  2306. their diets high in meat.
  2307.  
  2308. 484
  2309. 00:20:03,669 --> 00:20:06,104
  2310. That's why when I went on the
  2311. American Heart Association's
  2312.  
  2313. 485
  2314. 00:20:06,104 --> 00:20:09,341
  2315. Heart-healthy Recipes
  2316. page, I could not believe
  2317.  
  2318. 486
  2319. 00:20:09,341 --> 00:20:12,611
  2320. they had an entire
  2321. section on beef recipes?
  2322.  
  2323. 487
  2324. 00:20:12,611 --> 00:20:14,746
  2325. This was just like the
  2326. American Cancer Society
  2327.  
  2328. 488
  2329. 00:20:14,746 --> 00:20:17,916
  2330. encouraging eating Group 1
  2331. carcinogens on their site.
  2332.  
  2333. 489
  2334. 00:20:17,916 --> 00:20:21,920
  2335. Meat loaf, pork loin,
  2336. steak on your recipe list?
  2337.  
  2338. 490
  2339. 00:20:23,322 --> 00:20:24,856
  2340. Are you kidding me?
  2341.  
  2342. 491
  2343. 00:20:24,856 --> 00:20:27,326
  2344. It's like this menu's trying
  2345. to get people heart attacks.
  2346.  
  2347. 492
  2348. 00:20:27,326 --> 00:20:29,461
  2349. At your website, we noticed
  2350. heart-healthy recipes,
  2351.  
  2352. 493
  2353. 00:20:29,461 --> 00:20:33,632
  2354. and we're kinda bewildered by
  2355. why there's a bunch of recipes
  2356.  
  2357. 494
  2358. 00:20:35,067 --> 00:20:38,870
  2359. on the whole section
  2360. on beef, beef recipes,
  2361.  
  2362. 495
  2363. 00:20:38,870 --> 00:20:41,006
  2364. and there's also a
  2365. section on egg recipes
  2366.  
  2367. 496
  2368. 00:20:41,006 --> 00:20:43,241
  2369. when there's such a strong link
  2370.  
  2371. 497
  2372. 00:20:43,241 --> 00:20:46,845
  2373. between beef, red meat,
  2374. and heart disease?
  2375.  
  2376. 498
  2377. 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,550
  2378. - [Man] I honestly don't know
  2379. 'cause I don't do that ideas.
  2380.  
  2381. 499
  2382. 00:20:51,550 --> 00:20:53,352
  2383. That's not what I do.
  2384.  
  2385. 500
  2386. 00:20:53,352 --> 00:20:54,920
  2387. - [Kip] Another organization
  2388. rep that wasn't able
  2389.  
  2390. 501
  2391. 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:56,488
  2392. to answer my questions
  2393.  
  2394. 502
  2395. 00:20:56,488 --> 00:20:59,391
  2396. but he said that he'd have
  2397. someone get in touch shortly.
  2398.  
  2399. 503
  2400. 00:20:59,391 --> 00:21:01,193
  2401. I was, however, able to
  2402. talk to the president
  2403.  
  2404. 504
  2405. 00:21:01,193 --> 00:21:04,663
  2406. of the American College of
  2407. Cardiology, Dr. Kim Williams.
  2408.  
  2409. 505
  2410. 00:21:04,663 --> 00:21:06,331
  2411. - So, the American
  2412. College of Cardiology
  2413.  
  2414. 506
  2415. 00:21:06,331 --> 00:21:09,901
  2416. is a 47,000-member and
  2417. growing organization
  2418.  
  2419. 507
  2420. 00:21:11,336 --> 00:21:13,639
  2421. with a a dedicated mission
  2422. to reduce heart disease
  2423.  
  2424. 508
  2425. 00:21:13,639 --> 00:21:15,907
  2426. and to improve patients' lives.
  2427.  
  2428. 509
  2429. 00:21:15,907 --> 00:21:18,176
  2430. And if you look at the
  2431. incidence of hypertension
  2432.  
  2433. 510
  2434. 00:21:18,176 --> 00:21:21,113
  2435. and diabetes and
  2436. mortality in men,
  2437.  
  2438. 511
  2439. 00:21:21,113 --> 00:21:24,850
  2440. they actually get reduced
  2441. as you go higher and higher
  2442.  
  2443. 512
  2444. 00:21:24,850 --> 00:21:27,686
  2445. in terms of how much you
  2446. restrict animal products.
  2447.  
  2448. 513
  2449. 00:21:27,686 --> 00:21:28,920
  2450. - [Kip] What about fish?
  2451.  
  2452. 514
  2453. 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,622
  2454. - So, fish is a
  2455. little different.
  2456.  
  2457. 515
  2458. 00:21:30,622 --> 00:21:34,793
  2459. You've got the four worries
  2460. which is PCBs, mercury,
  2461.  
  2462. 516
  2463. 00:21:37,295 --> 00:21:39,765
  2464. saturated fat, and cholesterol.
  2465.  
  2466. 517
  2467. 00:21:39,765 --> 00:21:42,868
  2468. And the cholesterol
  2469. is all over the place.
  2470.  
  2471. 518
  2472. 00:21:42,868 --> 00:21:44,903
  2473. You can eat tuna in water,
  2474.  
  2475. 519
  2476. 00:21:44,903 --> 00:21:48,173
  2477. that'll be almost less
  2478. than a glass of milk
  2479.  
  2480. 520
  2481. 00:21:48,173 --> 00:21:52,911
  2482. to salmon or tilapia which
  2483. is higher than a pork chop.
  2484.  
  2485. 521
  2486. 00:21:52,911 --> 00:21:54,846
  2487. - If you look
  2488. objectively at fish,
  2489.  
  2490. 522
  2491. 00:21:54,846 --> 00:21:58,116
  2492. what you find is they become
  2493. essentially mercury sponges.
  2494.  
  2495. 523
  2496. 00:21:58,116 --> 00:21:59,418
  2497. And that's why in many
  2498. parts of the country,
  2499.  
  2500. 524
  2501. 00:21:59,418 --> 00:22:01,420
  2502. they warn you, "Don't
  2503. have more than so many
  2504.  
  2505. 525
  2506. 00:22:01,420 --> 00:22:02,821
  2507. "of these fish a week
  2508.  
  2509. 526
  2510. 00:22:02,821 --> 00:22:04,156
  2511. "because it's getting
  2512. too much mercury.
  2513.  
  2514. 527
  2515. 00:22:04,156 --> 00:22:05,090
  2516. "It can kill you."
  2517.  
  2518. 528
  2519. 00:22:05,090 --> 00:22:06,825
  2520. - Fish are eaten by bigger fish
  2521.  
  2522. 529
  2523. 00:22:06,825 --> 00:22:08,694
  2524. who are eaten by a bigger
  2525. fish and these pesticides
  2526.  
  2527. 530
  2528. 00:22:08,694 --> 00:22:12,164
  2529. or herbicides bioaccumulate
  2530. in the fish flesh.
  2531.  
  2532. 531
  2533. 00:22:12,164 --> 00:22:13,932
  2534. And the big fish
  2535. including the salmon
  2536.  
  2537. 532
  2538. 00:22:13,932 --> 00:22:15,734
  2539. which people think
  2540. is a healthiest fish.
  2541.  
  2542. 533
  2543. 00:22:15,734 --> 00:22:18,236
  2544. Truth is the amount of
  2545. pesticides and herbicides
  2546.  
  2547. 534
  2548. 00:22:18,236 --> 00:22:20,772
  2549. in the flesh of these
  2550. fish are shocking
  2551.  
  2552. 535
  2553. 00:22:20,772 --> 00:22:22,040
  2554. and they have estrogenic
  2555.  
  2556. 536
  2557. 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,643
  2558. and cancer promoting
  2559. properties in them.
  2560.  
  2561. 537
  2562. 00:22:24,643 --> 00:22:26,244
  2563. - They'll say, "Well,
  2564. but don't sardines
  2565.  
  2566. 538
  2567. 00:22:26,244 --> 00:22:29,047
  2568. "have less concentration
  2569. of toxic waste products
  2570.  
  2571. 539
  2572. 00:22:29,047 --> 00:22:30,549
  2573. "than other ones?"
  2574.  
  2575. 540
  2576. 00:22:30,549 --> 00:22:33,785
  2577. Something being less toxic
  2578. doesn't make it healthy.
  2579.  
  2580. 541
  2581. 00:22:33,785 --> 00:22:35,620
  2582. It just makes it less toxic.
  2583.  
  2584. 542
  2585. 00:22:35,620 --> 00:22:38,356
  2586. - Farmed fish is by
  2587. no means healthier.
  2588.  
  2589. 543
  2590. 00:22:38,356 --> 00:22:40,959
  2591. All the antibiotics that
  2592. these animals have to be fed
  2593.  
  2594. 544
  2595. 00:22:40,959 --> 00:22:43,962
  2596. similar to chickens and
  2597. turkeys kept in confinement.
  2598.  
  2599. 545
  2600. 00:22:43,962 --> 00:22:45,497
  2601. These fish get infections.
  2602.  
  2603. 546
  2604. 00:22:45,497 --> 00:22:48,033
  2605. They get fungal infections,
  2606. they get bacterial infections,
  2607.  
  2608. 547
  2609. 00:22:48,033 --> 00:22:50,368
  2610. you've gotta feed them
  2611. antifungals, antibiotics,
  2612.  
  2613. 548
  2614. 00:22:50,368 --> 00:22:54,005
  2615. and these substances accumulate
  2616. in the fish flesh as well.
  2617.  
  2618. 549
  2619. 00:22:54,005 --> 00:22:56,108
  2620. - [Kip] I always knew that
  2621. pollution was bad for our health
  2622.  
  2623. 550
  2624. 00:22:56,108 --> 00:22:57,542
  2625. but I never thought about
  2626.  
  2627. 551
  2628. 00:22:57,542 --> 00:22:59,344
  2629. the environmental
  2630. pollutants affecting food.
  2631.  
  2632. 552
  2633. 00:22:59,344 --> 00:23:02,114
  2634. - Dioxins being the most
  2635. toxic man-made chemicals
  2636.  
  2637. 553
  2638. 00:23:02,114 --> 00:23:04,216
  2639. known to science cause
  2640. all sorts of things.
  2641.  
  2642. 554
  2643. 00:23:04,216 --> 00:23:06,785
  2644. They cause endometriosis,
  2645. they cause cancers,
  2646.  
  2647. 555
  2648. 00:23:06,785 --> 00:23:09,087
  2649. they cause endocrine
  2650. disruption problems.
  2651.  
  2652. 556
  2653. 00:23:09,087 --> 00:23:12,657
  2654. Most of your exposure, 93%
  2655. of it comes from eating meat
  2656.  
  2657. 557
  2658. 00:23:12,657 --> 00:23:14,392
  2659. and dairy products
  2660. because it climbs up
  2661.  
  2662. 558
  2663. 00:23:14,392 --> 00:23:16,161
  2664. in the food chain
  2665. so effectively.
  2666.  
  2667. 559
  2668. 00:23:16,161 --> 00:23:18,697
  2669. So, you can get exposed
  2670. living near these incinerators
  2671.  
  2672. 560
  2673. 00:23:18,697 --> 00:23:21,399
  2674. and breathing it but
  2675. it'll take you 14 years
  2676.  
  2677. 561
  2678. 00:23:21,399 --> 00:23:24,002
  2679. to breathe in as
  2680. much dioxin as a cow
  2681.  
  2682. 562
  2683. 00:23:24,002 --> 00:23:26,404
  2684. ingest by eating the
  2685. grass in one day,
  2686.  
  2687. 563
  2688. 00:23:26,404 --> 00:23:28,907
  2689. and that dioxin will
  2690. accumulate in as fat
  2691.  
  2692. 564
  2693. 00:23:28,907 --> 00:23:31,109
  2694. which includes the
  2695. milk and the meat
  2696.  
  2697. 565
  2698. 00:23:31,109 --> 00:23:33,145
  2699. and anyone eating
  2700. meat or dairy products
  2701.  
  2702. 566
  2703. 00:23:33,145 --> 00:23:35,514
  2704. is going to get
  2705. that dose of dioxin
  2706.  
  2707. 567
  2708. 00:23:35,514 --> 00:23:37,682
  2709. so it climbs up the
  2710. food chain every step.
  2711.  
  2712. 568
  2713. 00:23:37,682 --> 00:23:41,019
  2714. Men have no way in their
  2715. bodies to get rid of dioxins
  2716.  
  2717. 569
  2718. 00:23:41,019 --> 00:23:42,921
  2719. but women have two ways.
  2720.  
  2721. 570
  2722. 00:23:42,921 --> 00:23:44,823
  2723. They're both involving
  2724. having a baby.
  2725.  
  2726. 571
  2727. 00:23:44,823 --> 00:23:47,125
  2728. One is that dioxin
  2729. crosses the placenta
  2730.  
  2731. 572
  2732. 00:23:47,125 --> 00:23:48,560
  2733. into the growing infant,
  2734.  
  2735. 573
  2736. 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,163
  2737. and the other is that it
  2738. comes out from the breastmilk.
  2739.  
  2740. 574
  2741. 00:23:51,163 --> 00:23:53,265
  2742. So, if you have a meat
  2743. and dairy consuming mother
  2744.  
  2745. 575
  2746. 00:23:53,265 --> 00:23:54,833
  2747. breastfeeding that infant,
  2748.  
  2749. 576
  2750. 00:23:54,833 --> 00:23:57,903
  2751. then the highest impacts
  2752. of toxic exposure
  2753.  
  2754. 577
  2755. 00:23:57,903 --> 00:24:00,038
  2756. like mercury and dioxins
  2757. will give that infant.
  2758.  
  2759. 578
  2760. 00:24:00,038 --> 00:24:02,107
  2761. - Pregnant women are told
  2762. of certain types of fish
  2763.  
  2764. 579
  2765. 00:24:02,107 --> 00:24:04,009
  2766. should be avoided but what about
  2767.  
  2768. 580
  2769. 00:24:04,009 --> 00:24:07,846
  2770. all these other animal
  2771. products which are introducing.
  2772.  
  2773. 581
  2774. 00:24:07,846 --> 00:24:09,781
  2775. Imagine as the
  2776. fetus is developing,
  2777.  
  2778. 582
  2779. 00:24:09,781 --> 00:24:12,584
  2780. introducing these
  2781. very harmful toxins
  2782.  
  2783. 583
  2784. 00:24:12,584 --> 00:24:16,054
  2785. which create reproductive
  2786. abnormalities,
  2787.  
  2788. 584
  2789. 00:24:16,054 --> 00:24:18,523
  2790. developmental problems
  2791. and hormonal issues
  2792.  
  2793. 585
  2794. 00:24:18,523 --> 00:24:20,458
  2795. right as the child
  2796. is developing,
  2797.  
  2798. 586
  2799. 00:24:20,458 --> 00:24:22,327
  2800. the most critical
  2801. stage of development.
  2802.  
  2803. 587
  2804. 00:24:22,327 --> 00:24:24,196
  2805. - It does make you
  2806. worry when people say,
  2807.  
  2808. 588
  2809. 00:24:24,196 --> 00:24:26,164
  2810. "Don't you wanna have
  2811. a little bit of milk
  2812.  
  2813. 589
  2814. 00:24:26,164 --> 00:24:27,632
  2815. "because you're pregnant?
  2816.  
  2817. 590
  2818. 00:24:27,632 --> 00:24:28,733
  2819. "Don't you wanna have some
  2820. fish 'cause you're pregnant?"
  2821.  
  2822. 591
  2823. 00:24:28,733 --> 00:24:29,668
  2824. Who do you think is gonna get
  2825.  
  2826. 592
  2827. 00:24:29,668 --> 00:24:31,102
  2828. the chemicals that are in that?
  2829.  
  2830. 593
  2831. 00:24:31,102 --> 00:24:34,339
  2832. - All these environmental
  2833. toxins and toxins from the feed
  2834.  
  2835. 594
  2836. 00:24:34,339 --> 00:24:37,042
  2837. that they're being fed
  2838. accumulate in their tissues
  2839.  
  2840. 595
  2841. 00:24:37,042 --> 00:24:39,277
  2842. and are released into the mother
  2843.  
  2844. 596
  2845. 00:24:39,277 --> 00:24:41,213
  2846. and unfortunately, to the child
  2847.  
  2848. 597
  2849. 00:24:41,213 --> 00:24:43,682
  2850. when you eat these products
  2851. when you're pregnant.
  2852.  
  2853. 598
  2854. 00:24:43,682 --> 00:24:47,319
  2855. So, this includes
  2856. antibiotics, hormones,
  2857.  
  2858. 599
  2859. 00:24:47,319 --> 00:24:49,654
  2860. steroids in animal feed.
  2861.  
  2862. 600
  2863. 00:24:49,654 --> 00:24:53,725
  2864. Commercial animals are
  2865. largely fed GMO corn and soy
  2866.  
  2867. 601
  2868. 00:24:53,725 --> 00:24:56,361
  2869. which are very
  2870. laden in pesticides.
  2871.  
  2872. 602
  2873. 00:24:56,361 --> 00:24:58,697
  2874. PCBs have been
  2875. banned since the '70s
  2876.  
  2877. 603
  2878. 00:24:58,697 --> 00:25:02,067
  2879. but they persist in the
  2880. environment, dioxins.
  2881.  
  2882. 604
  2883. 00:25:02,067 --> 00:25:06,504
  2884. All of these compounds can
  2885. create hormonal reproductive,
  2886.  
  2887. 605
  2888. 00:25:06,504 --> 00:25:08,740
  2889. developmental damage as well.
  2890.  
  2891. 606
  2892. 00:25:08,740 --> 00:25:12,510
  2893. - Eating organic beef,
  2894. poultry, pork or fish
  2895.  
  2896. 607
  2897. 00:25:12,510 --> 00:25:15,180
  2898. will not help you avoid
  2899. contaminants like mercury,
  2900.  
  2901. 608
  2902. 00:25:15,180 --> 00:25:17,415
  2903. like dioxins, like strontium-90
  2904.  
  2905. 609
  2906. 00:25:17,415 --> 00:25:19,417
  2907. because they fall
  2908. out over all sorts
  2909.  
  2910. 610
  2911. 00:25:19,417 --> 00:25:21,119
  2912. of farms fields
  2913. and water bodies,
  2914.  
  2915. 611
  2916. 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,121
  2917. and they don't skip
  2918. over the organic fields.
  2919.  
  2920. 612
  2921. 00:25:23,121 --> 00:25:25,323
  2922. So, really the
  2923. contaminants are coming in
  2924.  
  2925. 613
  2926. 00:25:25,323 --> 00:25:28,426
  2927. regardless of how these
  2928. animals are raised.
  2929.  
  2930. 614
  2931. 00:25:28,426 --> 00:25:29,628
  2932. - [Kip] I had always
  2933. been concerned
  2934.  
  2935. 615
  2936. 00:25:29,628 --> 00:25:31,263
  2937. about the possible
  2938. health impacts of GMOs
  2939.  
  2940. 616
  2941. 00:25:31,263 --> 00:25:33,698
  2942. but then found out that most
  2943. of the world's GMO crops
  2944.  
  2945. 617
  2946. 00:25:33,698 --> 00:25:35,533
  2947. are actually
  2948. consumed by livestock
  2949.  
  2950. 618
  2951. 00:25:35,533 --> 00:25:37,903
  2952. with dairy cows consuming
  2953. the most per animal.
  2954.  
  2955. 619
  2956. 00:25:37,903 --> 00:25:39,638
  2957. This fact with
  2958. everything I'd learned
  2959.  
  2960. 620
  2961. 00:25:39,638 --> 00:25:42,140
  2962. about bioaccumulation
  2963. made dairy terrifying
  2964.  
  2965. 621
  2966. 00:25:42,140 --> 00:25:45,410
  2967. especially considering how
  2968. much cheese I ate in my life.
  2969.  
  2970. 622
  2971. 00:25:45,410 --> 00:25:47,979
  2972. - Cheese is an amazing product
  2973. when you think about it.
  2974.  
  2975. 623
  2976. 00:25:47,979 --> 00:25:51,516
  2977. It's probably one of
  2978. the single desk foods
  2979.  
  2980. 624
  2981. 00:25:51,516 --> 00:25:53,218
  2982. that compromising health
  2983.  
  2984. 625
  2985. 00:25:53,218 --> 00:25:55,053
  2986. that you're gonna
  2987. actually feed to people.
  2988.  
  2989. 626
  2990. 00:25:55,053 --> 00:25:55,987
  2991. Think about it.
  2992.  
  2993. 627
  2994. 00:25:55,987 --> 00:25:57,522
  2995. You've got an animal product,
  2996.  
  2997. 628
  2998. 00:25:57,522 --> 00:26:00,425
  2999. so you've got all the issues
  3000. of biological concentration.
  3001.  
  3002. 629
  3003. 00:26:00,425 --> 00:26:03,261
  3004. You with have a highly
  3005. processed food product
  3006.  
  3007. 630
  3008. 00:26:03,261 --> 00:26:06,231
  3009. and not only does it have
  3010. naturally a lot of saturated fat
  3011.  
  3012. 631
  3013. 00:26:06,231 --> 00:26:07,933
  3014. but you put a lot
  3015. of salt into it.
  3016.  
  3017. 632
  3018. 00:26:07,933 --> 00:26:09,868
  3019. - There's a strong link
  3020. between dairy foods
  3021.  
  3022. 633
  3023. 00:26:09,868 --> 00:26:13,004
  3024. and autoimmune diseases
  3025. so that can show itself up
  3026.  
  3027. 634
  3028. 00:26:13,004 --> 00:26:16,474
  3029. as excessive production of mucus
  3030.  
  3031. 635
  3032. 00:26:16,474 --> 00:26:18,977
  3033. and exacerbation of asthma
  3034. and kids who are prone to that
  3035.  
  3036. 636
  3037. 00:26:18,977 --> 00:26:20,578
  3038. and even adults and also,
  3039.  
  3040. 637
  3041. 00:26:20,578 --> 00:26:21,913
  3042. there's an association
  3043. between dairy foods
  3044.  
  3045. 638
  3046. 00:26:21,913 --> 00:26:25,517
  3047. and multiple sclerosis
  3048. and type 1 diabetes,
  3049.  
  3050. 639
  3051. 00:26:25,517 --> 00:26:27,152
  3052. which is an autoimmune disease
  3053.  
  3054. 640
  3055. 00:26:27,152 --> 00:26:29,788
  3056. and other
  3057. rheumatological problems.
  3058.  
  3059. 641
  3060. 00:26:29,788 --> 00:26:33,491
  3061. - Cow's milk is baby
  3062. calf growth food.
  3063.  
  3064. 642
  3065. 00:26:33,491 --> 00:26:35,627
  3066. That's what the stuff is.
  3067.  
  3068. 643
  3069. 00:26:35,627 --> 00:26:37,796
  3070. There's absolutely no
  3071. child or human on earth
  3072.  
  3073. 644
  3074. 00:26:37,796 --> 00:26:39,798
  3075. who actually needs
  3076. the milk of a cow
  3077.  
  3078. 645
  3079. 00:26:39,798 --> 00:26:42,734
  3080. any more than they need the
  3081. milk of a giraffe or a mouse.
  3082.  
  3083. 646
  3084. 00:26:42,734 --> 00:26:45,904
  3085. - Most people in the world
  3086. are lactose intolerant.
  3087.  
  3088. 647
  3089. 00:26:45,904 --> 00:26:47,505
  3090. I mean, that's the
  3091. normal state of affairs.
  3092.  
  3093. 648
  3094. 00:26:47,505 --> 00:26:50,175
  3095. Why would your body
  3096. create this enzyme
  3097.  
  3098. 649
  3099. 00:26:50,175 --> 00:26:53,011
  3100. to like just lactose after
  3101. weaning, after infancy?
  3102.  
  3103. 650
  3104. 00:26:53,011 --> 00:26:54,512
  3105. It doesn't make any sense.
  3106.  
  3107. 651
  3108. 00:26:54,512 --> 00:26:57,649
  3109. - 73% of African-Americans
  3110. are lactose intolerant,
  3111.  
  3112. 652
  3113. 00:26:57,649 --> 00:27:01,786
  3114. 95% of Asians, roughly
  3115. 70% of Native Americans,
  3116.  
  3117. 653
  3118. 00:27:03,321 --> 00:27:06,725
  3119. and about 53% of
  3120. Hispanic Americans are
  3121. lactose intolerant.
  3122.  
  3123. 654
  3124. 00:27:06,725 --> 00:27:09,894
  3125. Our government is encouraging
  3126. Americans of color
  3127.  
  3128. 655
  3129. 00:27:09,894 --> 00:27:13,098
  3130. to eat foods that it knows
  3131. it's going to make them ill.
  3132.  
  3133. 656
  3134. 00:27:13,098 --> 00:27:14,566
  3135. Ultimately, what that is down to
  3136.  
  3137. 657
  3138. 00:27:14,566 --> 00:27:16,735
  3139. is the government are selling
  3140. me as an African-American
  3141.  
  3142. 658
  3143. 00:27:16,735 --> 00:27:18,703
  3144. to eat food that's gonna make
  3145. me ill for no health benefit
  3146.  
  3147. 659
  3148. 00:27:18,703 --> 00:27:21,539
  3149. so that it will
  3150. benefit dairy farmers
  3151.  
  3152. 660
  3153. 00:27:21,539 --> 00:27:24,042
  3154. as if the farmers have
  3155. institutionalized racism.
  3156.  
  3157. 661
  3158. 00:27:24,042 --> 00:27:26,978
  3159. - Yeah, milk is a risky
  3160. food for human consumption.
  3161.  
  3162. 662
  3163. 00:27:26,978 --> 00:27:30,048
  3164. As a pediatrician, I
  3165. see it on a daily basis,
  3166.  
  3167. 663
  3168. 00:27:30,048 --> 00:27:32,617
  3169. children suffering
  3170. from conditions
  3171.  
  3172. 664
  3173. 00:27:32,617 --> 00:27:35,720
  3174. that are linked or associated
  3175. to dairy consumption
  3176.  
  3177. 665
  3178. 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,090
  3179. such as eczema,
  3180. acne, constipation,
  3181.  
  3182. 666
  3183. 00:27:39,090 --> 00:27:42,394
  3184. acid reflux,
  3185. iron-deficiency anemia.
  3186.  
  3187. 667
  3188. 00:27:42,394 --> 00:27:44,329
  3189. Cow's milk protein is
  3190. the most allergenic food.
  3191.  
  3192. 668
  3193. 00:27:44,329 --> 00:27:46,765
  3194. - People say, "Well no,
  3195. I want a hormone-free,
  3196.  
  3197. 669
  3198. 00:27:46,765 --> 00:27:49,367
  3199. "not injected with
  3200. bovine growth hormone,"
  3201.  
  3202. 670
  3203. 00:27:49,367 --> 00:27:53,371
  3204. but milk is this hormonal
  3205. fluid which is packed
  3206.  
  3207. 671
  3208. 00:27:53,371 --> 00:27:56,574
  3209. with sex hormones and
  3210. natural sex steroid hormones
  3211.  
  3212. 672
  3213. 00:27:56,574 --> 00:27:58,076
  3214. like estrogen, progesterone.
  3215.  
  3216. 673
  3217. 00:27:58,076 --> 00:28:00,111
  3218. In fact, doesn't matter
  3219. if it's conventional milk,
  3220.  
  3221. 674
  3222. 00:28:00,111 --> 00:28:01,980
  3223. doesn't matter if
  3224. it's organic milk.
  3225.  
  3226. 675
  3227. 00:28:01,980 --> 00:28:04,282
  3228. Milk without hormones,
  3229. this is an oxymoron.
  3230.  
  3231. 676
  3232. 00:28:04,282 --> 00:28:07,385
  3233. Organic dairy has just
  3234. as much saturated fat
  3235.  
  3236. 677
  3237. 00:28:07,385 --> 00:28:10,255
  3238. and cholesterol and
  3239. galactose, and all the things
  3240.  
  3241. 678
  3242. 00:28:10,255 --> 00:28:13,224
  3243. that you don't want
  3244. as conventional dairy.
  3245.  
  3246. 679
  3247. 00:28:13,224 --> 00:28:15,093
  3248. - Dairy products, in
  3249. general, have a lot
  3250.  
  3251. 680
  3252. 00:28:15,093 --> 00:28:17,262
  3253. of other products
  3254. associated with it,
  3255.  
  3256. 681
  3257. 00:28:17,262 --> 00:28:18,930
  3258. not the least of which is pus.
  3259.  
  3260. 682
  3261. 00:28:18,930 --> 00:28:21,466
  3262. I mean, they actually have
  3263. laws limiting how much pus
  3264.  
  3265. 683
  3266. 00:28:21,466 --> 00:28:23,568
  3267. you can actually have in
  3268. the milk and still sell it.
  3269.  
  3270. 684
  3271. 00:28:23,568 --> 00:28:26,905
  3272. I believe it's like
  3273. 750,000 pus cells per CC.
  3274.  
  3275. 685
  3276. 00:28:26,905 --> 00:28:28,573
  3277. Because, I mean, you
  3278. wouldn't want too much pus,
  3279.  
  3280. 686
  3281. 00:28:28,573 --> 00:28:30,842
  3282. it would be like pure
  3283. pus people might object.
  3284.  
  3285. 687
  3286. 00:28:30,842 --> 00:28:32,077
  3287. In fact, you could
  3288. think of cheese
  3289.  
  3290. 688
  3291. 00:28:32,077 --> 00:28:34,913
  3292. as coagulated cow
  3293. pus if you will.
  3294.  
  3295. 689
  3296. 00:28:34,913 --> 00:28:36,181
  3297. - [Kip] But I was always told
  3298.  
  3299. 690
  3300. 00:28:36,181 --> 00:28:37,982
  3301. that we need milk
  3302. for strong bones.
  3303.  
  3304. 691
  3305. 00:28:37,982 --> 00:28:41,152
  3306. - I'm Jane Chapman
  3307. and not too long ago,
  3308.  
  3309. 692
  3310. 00:28:41,152 --> 00:28:44,756
  3311. finally got some x-rays
  3312. of the hips and back.
  3313.  
  3314. 693
  3315. 00:28:44,756 --> 00:28:48,326
  3316. Severe bilateral
  3317. osteoarthritis of the hips
  3318.  
  3319. 694
  3320. 00:28:49,761 --> 00:28:52,497
  3321. and actually, I'm scheduled
  3322. for two hip replacements.
  3323.  
  3324. 695
  3325. 00:28:52,497 --> 00:28:56,901
  3326. That's bone on bone, it is
  3327. the grinding of the joints.
  3328.  
  3329. 696
  3330. 00:28:56,901 --> 00:28:59,304
  3331. My stability is scary.
  3332.  
  3333. 697
  3334. 00:28:59,304 --> 00:29:02,207
  3335. I hold on to the
  3336. walls if I'm at home.
  3337.  
  3338. 698
  3339. 00:29:02,207 --> 00:29:04,676
  3340. I've been told to use a walker.
  3341.  
  3342. 699
  3343. 00:29:04,676 --> 00:29:06,444
  3344. I'm only 61.
  3345.  
  3346. 700
  3347. 00:29:06,444 --> 00:29:08,046
  3348. This is not how you're
  3349. supposed to live
  3350.  
  3351. 701
  3352. 00:29:08,046 --> 00:29:09,414
  3353. when you're this old.
  3354.  
  3355. 702
  3356. 00:29:09,414 --> 00:29:12,851
  3357. I have a really hard
  3358. time believing that.
  3359.  
  3360. 703
  3361. 00:29:14,886 --> 00:29:16,721
  3362. That's all that's left.
  3363.  
  3364. 704
  3365. 00:29:16,721 --> 00:29:19,357
  3366. - Researchers have studied
  3367. bone development in kids
  3368.  
  3369. 705
  3370. 00:29:19,357 --> 00:29:21,926
  3371. and whether they get stress
  3372. fractures and that kind of thing
  3373.  
  3374. 706
  3375. 00:29:21,926 --> 00:29:24,529
  3376. and the kids drink the most
  3377. milk have zero protection.
  3378.  
  3379. 707
  3380. 00:29:24,529 --> 00:29:26,631
  3381. Milk does not
  3382. build strong bones.
  3383.  
  3384. 708
  3385. 00:29:26,631 --> 00:29:28,833
  3386. Harvard researchers have
  3387. looked at a large group
  3388.  
  3389. 709
  3390. 00:29:28,833 --> 00:29:31,369
  3391. of older women over
  3392. an 18-year period.
  3393.  
  3394. 710
  3395. 00:29:31,369 --> 00:29:34,572
  3396. The milk drinkers had zero
  3397. protection from fractures.
  3398.  
  3399. 711
  3400. 00:29:34,572 --> 00:29:36,307
  3401. So, this old notion
  3402. that somehow,
  3403.  
  3404. 712
  3405. 00:29:36,307 --> 00:29:38,009
  3406. milk is gonna build strong bones
  3407.  
  3408. 713
  3409. 00:29:38,009 --> 00:29:40,545
  3410. are protect your bones
  3411. later in life, it's a myth.
  3412.  
  3413. 714
  3414. 00:29:40,545 --> 00:29:43,882
  3415. - People that drink milk have
  3416. higher rates of hip fractures,
  3417.  
  3418. 715
  3419. 00:29:43,882 --> 00:29:47,552
  3420. have more cancer, and
  3421. live shorter lives.
  3422.  
  3423. 716
  3424. 00:29:47,552 --> 00:29:48,786
  3425. - [Kip] It turns
  3426. out that countries
  3427.  
  3428. 717
  3429. 00:29:48,786 --> 00:29:50,054
  3430. with the highest
  3431. dairy consumption
  3432.  
  3433. 718
  3434. 00:29:50,054 --> 00:29:52,190
  3435. also have the highest
  3436. rates of osteoporosis.
  3437.  
  3438. 719
  3439. 00:29:52,190 --> 00:29:55,593
  3440. So clearly, drinking more milk
  3441. doesn't protect your bones.
  3442.  
  3443. 720
  3444. 00:29:55,593 --> 00:29:57,529
  3445. Doing more research, I've
  3446. found that dairy was linked
  3447.  
  3448. 721
  3449. 00:29:57,529 --> 00:30:00,031
  3450. to many different types
  3451. of cancer as well.
  3452.  
  3453. 722
  3454. 00:30:00,031 --> 00:30:01,499
  3455. Just like many of us,
  3456.  
  3457. 723
  3458. 00:30:01,499 --> 00:30:03,601
  3459. I thought that the majority
  3460. of cancer's due to genes
  3461.  
  3462. 724
  3463. 00:30:03,601 --> 00:30:07,038
  3464. but only 5% to 10% of
  3465. cancer's actually genetic.
  3466.  
  3467. 725
  3468. 00:30:07,038 --> 00:30:10,441
  3469. - Any cancer is caused
  3470. by a DNA mutation
  3471.  
  3472. 726
  3473. 00:30:10,441 --> 00:30:12,177
  3474. but that's not enough so that
  3475.  
  3476. 727
  3477. 00:30:12,177 --> 00:30:13,444
  3478. can cause that first cancer cell
  3479.  
  3480. 728
  3481. 00:30:13,444 --> 00:30:15,547
  3482. but one cancer cell
  3483. never killed anyone.
  3484.  
  3485. 729
  3486. 00:30:15,547 --> 00:30:17,282
  3487. Two cancer cells
  3488. never killed anyone
  3489.  
  3490. 730
  3491. 00:30:17,282 --> 00:30:19,951
  3492. but a billion cancer cells,
  3493. now, we're running into problems
  3494.  
  3495. 731
  3496. 00:30:19,951 --> 00:30:22,287
  3497. so we need to reduce the
  3498. growth factors in our body
  3499.  
  3500. 732
  3501. 00:30:22,287 --> 00:30:24,756
  3502. like IGF-1, insulin-like
  3503. growth factor 1.
  3504.  
  3505. 733
  3506. 00:30:24,756 --> 00:30:26,491
  3507. It's this cancer
  3508. promoting growth hormone
  3509.  
  3510. 734
  3511. 00:30:26,491 --> 00:30:28,760
  3512. involved in every
  3513. stage of cancer cell,
  3514.  
  3515. 735
  3516. 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,362
  3517. growth and spread
  3518. and metastasis.
  3519.  
  3520. 736
  3521. 00:30:31,362 --> 00:30:35,099
  3522. Any animal protein boosts
  3523. the level of IGF-1.
  3524.  
  3525. 737
  3526. 00:30:35,099 --> 00:30:36,801
  3527. - Dairy products
  3528. increases your risk
  3529.  
  3530. 738
  3531. 00:30:36,801 --> 00:30:38,570
  3532. for various forms of cancer
  3533.  
  3534. 739
  3535. 00:30:38,570 --> 00:30:40,605
  3536. especially those
  3537. related to your hormones
  3538.  
  3539. 740
  3540. 00:30:40,605 --> 00:30:43,274
  3541. so breast cancer, prostate
  3542. cancer, ovarian cancer.
  3543.  
  3544. 741
  3545. 00:30:43,274 --> 00:30:46,377
  3546. So, this is not a product
  3547. even in its most pure state
  3548.  
  3549. 742
  3550. 00:30:46,377 --> 00:30:48,746
  3551. you wanna be consuming because
  3552. it does come with risk.
  3553.  
  3554. 743
  3555. 00:30:48,746 --> 00:30:50,281
  3556. - [Kip] I've found out
  3557. that dairy can increase
  3558.  
  3559. 744
  3560. 00:30:50,281 --> 00:30:53,451
  3561. a man's chance of getting
  3562. prostate cancer by 34%.
  3563.  
  3564. 745
  3565. 00:30:53,451 --> 00:30:55,019
  3566. And for women who've
  3567. had breast cancer,
  3568.  
  3569. 746
  3570. 00:30:55,019 --> 00:30:57,188
  3571. just one serving of
  3572. whole dairy a day
  3573.  
  3574. 747
  3575. 00:30:57,188 --> 00:31:00,525
  3576. can increase their chance of
  3577. dying from the disease, 49%,
  3578.  
  3579. 748
  3580. 00:31:00,525 --> 00:31:03,461
  3581. and dying from anything, 64%.
  3582.  
  3583. 749
  3584. 00:31:03,461 --> 00:31:05,997
  3585. Why weren't breast cancer
  3586. sites like Susan G. Komen
  3587.  
  3588. 750
  3589. 00:31:05,997 --> 00:31:08,366
  3590. warning everyone about this?
  3591.  
  3592. 751
  3593. 00:31:09,767 --> 00:31:11,302
  3594. - [Jocelyn] You're
  3595. calling Susan G. Komen.
  3596.  
  3597. 752
  3598. 00:31:11,302 --> 00:31:13,571
  3599. This is Jocelyn,
  3600. how may I help you?
  3601.  
  3602. 753
  3603. 00:31:13,571 --> 00:31:15,640
  3604. - We're wondering why you
  3605. don't have a huge warning
  3606.  
  3607. 754
  3608. 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,942
  3609. about the dangers of consuming
  3610. dairy in your website
  3611.  
  3612. 755
  3613. 00:31:17,942 --> 00:31:20,211
  3614. when there's a direct
  3615. link to breast cancer?
  3616.  
  3617. 756
  3618. 00:31:20,211 --> 00:31:21,679
  3619. There was a study published
  3620.  
  3621. 757
  3622. 00:31:21,679 --> 00:31:23,081
  3623. in the Journal of the
  3624. National Cancer Institute,
  3625.  
  3626. 758
  3627. 00:31:23,081 --> 00:31:25,250
  3628. that found out women
  3629. consuming dairy
  3630.  
  3631. 759
  3632. 00:31:25,250 --> 00:31:26,784
  3633. who has had breast cancer
  3634.  
  3635. 760
  3636. 00:31:26,784 --> 00:31:30,188
  3637. increases their risk of
  3638. dying of breast cancer 49%.
  3639.  
  3640. 761
  3641. 00:31:30,188 --> 00:31:33,858
  3642. Just wondering why it's
  3643. not on your website?
  3644.  
  3645. 762
  3646. 00:31:35,293 --> 00:31:36,861
  3647. - [Jocelyn] We cannot answer
  3648. these types of questions.
  3649.  
  3650. 763
  3651. 00:31:36,861 --> 00:31:39,030
  3652. - [Kip] Once again, another
  3653. health organization rep
  3654.  
  3655. 764
  3656. 00:31:39,030 --> 00:31:41,299
  3657. saying someone else would
  3658. have to answer my question.
  3659.  
  3660. 765
  3661. 00:31:41,299 --> 00:31:43,201
  3662. Rather than risk
  3663. being stood up again,
  3664.  
  3665. 766
  3666. 00:31:43,201 --> 00:31:45,370
  3667. I went straight to the
  3668. local Susan G. Komen chapter
  3669.  
  3670. 767
  3671. 00:31:45,370 --> 00:31:47,705
  3672. to see if they would
  3673. answer my questions.
  3674.  
  3675. 768
  3676. 00:31:53,077 --> 00:31:55,313
  3677. They didn't wanna answer my
  3678. questions in person either
  3679.  
  3680. 769
  3681. 00:31:55,313 --> 00:31:57,215
  3682. and told us to stop filming,
  3683.  
  3684. 770
  3685. 00:31:57,215 --> 00:31:58,483
  3686. but promised they
  3687. would connect me
  3688.  
  3689. 771
  3690. 00:31:58,483 --> 00:32:01,085
  3691. to the national office directly.
  3692.  
  3693. 772
  3694. 00:32:03,154 --> 00:32:05,556
  3695. Susan G. Komen's pink ribbon
  3696. campaign had done a lot
  3697.  
  3698. 773
  3699. 00:32:05,556 --> 00:32:07,759
  3700. to raise awareness
  3701. for breast cancer,
  3702.  
  3703. 774
  3704. 00:32:07,759 --> 00:32:10,228
  3705. although, it was confusing
  3706. to see pink ribbons
  3707.  
  3708. 775
  3709. 00:32:10,228 --> 00:32:12,697
  3710. on dairy yogurt containers.
  3711.  
  3712. 776
  3713. 00:32:12,697 --> 00:32:14,799
  3714. - Breast cancer can be prevented
  3715.  
  3716. 777
  3717. 00:32:14,799 --> 00:32:17,268
  3718. with a healthy diet and
  3719. lifestyle but we're not,
  3720.  
  3721. 778
  3722. 00:32:17,268 --> 00:32:19,904
  3723. we're talking about pink ribbons
  3724.  
  3725. 779
  3726. 00:32:19,904 --> 00:32:22,140
  3727. and putting all the money
  3728. into research for the cure.
  3729.  
  3730. 780
  3731. 00:32:22,140 --> 00:32:25,843
  3732. I, for one, know that I would
  3733. want my daughter, my mother,
  3734.  
  3735. 781
  3736. 00:32:25,843 --> 00:32:28,913
  3737. me, I wanna focus on not
  3738. getting to that point
  3739.  
  3740. 782
  3741. 00:32:28,913 --> 00:32:30,148
  3742. and that's where I would like
  3743.  
  3744. 783
  3745. 00:32:30,148 --> 00:32:32,550
  3746. to see more energy
  3747. and effort put.
  3748.  
  3749. 784
  3750. 00:32:32,550 --> 00:32:34,385
  3751. - [Kip] I had been a
  3752. hardcore cheesaholic
  3753.  
  3754. 785
  3755. 00:32:34,385 --> 00:32:36,054
  3756. virtually my entire life
  3757.  
  3758. 786
  3759. 00:32:36,054 --> 00:32:37,655
  3760. despite the risks but
  3761. like so many others,
  3762.  
  3763. 787
  3764. 00:32:37,655 --> 00:32:39,757
  3765. I seem to have been
  3766. addicted to it.
  3767.  
  3768. 788
  3769. 00:32:39,757 --> 00:32:42,760
  3770. - It turns out that
  3771. the casein protein,
  3772.  
  3773. 789
  3774. 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,229
  3775. that's the main protein
  3776. in dairy products
  3777.  
  3778. 790
  3779. 00:32:45,229 --> 00:32:46,898
  3780. particularly in
  3781. cheese, it breaks apart
  3782.  
  3783. 791
  3784. 00:32:46,898 --> 00:32:49,000
  3785. in the human digestion to create
  3786.  
  3787. 792
  3788. 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,935
  3789. what are called casomorphins,
  3790.  
  3791. 793
  3792. 00:32:50,935 --> 00:32:54,472
  3793. casein-derived
  3794. morphine-like compounds.
  3795.  
  3796. 794
  3797. 00:32:54,472 --> 00:32:56,007
  3798. They go to the brain
  3799. and they attach
  3800.  
  3801. 795
  3802. 00:32:56,007 --> 00:32:59,677
  3803. to the vary same receptor
  3804. that heroin attaches to.
  3805.  
  3806. 796
  3807. 00:32:59,677 --> 00:33:01,813
  3808. Don't get me wrong, they're
  3809. not as strong as that
  3810.  
  3811. 797
  3812. 00:33:01,813 --> 00:33:04,849
  3813. but they are strong enough
  3814. to make you come back
  3815.  
  3816. 798
  3817. 00:33:04,849 --> 00:33:06,451
  3818. again and again and again
  3819.  
  3820. 799
  3821. 00:33:06,451 --> 00:33:08,052
  3822. despite the fact that
  3823. you're gaining weight,
  3824.  
  3825. 800
  3826. 00:33:08,052 --> 00:33:10,021
  3827. you're more unhealthy
  3828. than you've ever been,
  3829.  
  3830. 801
  3831. 00:33:10,021 --> 00:33:12,523
  3832. but that cheese just
  3833. calls out to people.
  3834.  
  3835. 802
  3836. 00:33:12,523 --> 00:33:15,259
  3837. - Casomorphin may
  3838. play a role in SIDS,
  3839.  
  3840. 803
  3841. 00:33:15,259 --> 00:33:18,363
  3842. in sudden infant death syndrome,
  3843. they play a role in autism.
  3844.  
  3845. 804
  3846. 00:33:18,363 --> 00:33:22,233
  3847. This is one of the reasons
  3848. why don't want infants
  3849.  
  3850. 805
  3851. 00:33:22,233 --> 00:33:24,435
  3852. drinking milk from cows.
  3853.  
  3854. 806
  3855. 00:33:24,435 --> 00:33:28,005
  3856. - [Kip] Human breastmilk has
  3857. 2.7 grams of casein per liter
  3858.  
  3859. 807
  3860. 00:33:28,005 --> 00:33:31,209
  3861. compared to 26 grams per
  3862. liter for cow's milk.
  3863.  
  3864. 808
  3865. 00:33:31,209 --> 00:33:33,411
  3866. That's practically
  3867. 10 times more.
  3868.  
  3869. 809
  3870. 00:33:33,411 --> 00:33:35,213
  3871. No wonder it's so addictive.
  3872.  
  3873. 810
  3874. 00:33:35,213 --> 00:33:37,014
  3875. This talk about addiction
  3876. made me think about
  3877.  
  3878. 811
  3879. 00:33:37,014 --> 00:33:39,050
  3880. all the drugs animals are fed.
  3881.  
  3882. 812
  3883. 00:33:39,050 --> 00:33:40,284
  3884. I went to the headquarters
  3885.  
  3886. 813
  3887. 00:33:40,284 --> 00:33:41,819
  3888. of the Center for
  3889. Food and Safety,
  3890.  
  3891. 814
  3892. 00:33:41,819 --> 00:33:44,789
  3893. the nation's leading FDA
  3894. government watchdog group
  3895.  
  3896. 815
  3897. 00:33:44,789 --> 00:33:47,959
  3898. to see how concerned we need
  3899. to be about drugs in our food.
  3900.  
  3901. 816
  3902. 00:33:47,959 --> 00:33:51,929
  3903. - So, that we know of there are
  3904. at least 450 different drugs
  3905.  
  3906. 817
  3907. 00:33:51,929 --> 00:33:53,197
  3908. that are administered to animals
  3909.  
  3910. 818
  3911. 00:33:53,197 --> 00:33:54,999
  3912. either alone or in combination.
  3913.  
  3914. 819
  3915. 00:33:54,999 --> 00:33:58,369
  3916. These drugs are given to animals
  3917. for a variety of reasons.
  3918.  
  3919. 820
  3920. 00:33:58,369 --> 00:34:01,105
  3921. Very, very few of which
  3922. are actually beneficial
  3923.  
  3924. 821
  3925. 00:34:01,105 --> 00:34:02,540
  3926. to consumer health.
  3927.  
  3928. 822
  3929. 00:34:02,540 --> 00:34:05,410
  3930. - We've got drug companies
  3931. that work real hard
  3932.  
  3933. 823
  3934. 00:34:05,410 --> 00:34:08,279
  3935. to make sure they can
  3936. sell lots of drugs
  3937.  
  3938. 824
  3939. 00:34:08,279 --> 00:34:11,115
  3940. to people raising cows,
  3941. pigs, and chickens.
  3942.  
  3943. 825
  3944. 00:34:11,115 --> 00:34:13,684
  3945. - The pharmaceutical
  3946. industry sells 80%
  3947.  
  3948. 826
  3949. 00:34:13,684 --> 00:34:15,987
  3950. of all the antibiotics that
  3951. it makes in the United States
  3952.  
  3953. 827
  3954. 00:34:15,987 --> 00:34:17,688
  3955. to animal agriculture.
  3956.  
  3957. 828
  3958. 00:34:17,688 --> 00:34:19,524
  3959. Antibiotic residues
  3960. are found in meat.
  3961.  
  3962. 829
  3963. 00:34:19,524 --> 00:34:21,392
  3964. Other antimicrobials
  3965. are found in meat.
  3966.  
  3967. 830
  3968. 00:34:21,392 --> 00:34:23,361
  3969. There has been a
  3970. ractopamine found in meat.
  3971.  
  3972. 831
  3973. 00:34:23,361 --> 00:34:25,029
  3974. There's been hormones
  3975. found in meat.
  3976.  
  3977. 832
  3978. 00:34:25,029 --> 00:34:27,131
  3979. So, right there, you're talking
  3980. about four different drugs.
  3981.  
  3982. 833
  3983. 00:34:27,131 --> 00:34:29,834
  3984. They could be in the
  3985. same piece of meat.
  3986.  
  3987. 834
  3988. 00:34:29,834 --> 00:34:31,803
  3989. The pharmaceutical
  3990. company supposed
  3991.  
  3992. 835
  3993. 00:34:31,803 --> 00:34:33,938
  3994. to show the safety
  3995. of animal drugs.
  3996.  
  3997. 836
  3998. 00:34:33,938 --> 00:34:35,373
  3999. They're not really
  4000. testing to see
  4001.  
  4002. 837
  4003. 00:34:35,373 --> 00:34:37,108
  4004. what the impacts of these
  4005. drugs are on humans,
  4006.  
  4007. 838
  4008. 00:34:37,108 --> 00:34:38,409
  4009. they're really looking
  4010. to see what impacts
  4011.  
  4012. 839
  4013. 00:34:38,409 --> 00:34:40,077
  4014. that these drugs are on animals.
  4015.  
  4016. 840
  4017. 00:34:40,077 --> 00:34:44,015
  4018. - We try to get information
  4019. on some of the health studies
  4020.  
  4021. 841
  4022. 00:34:44,015 --> 00:34:47,218
  4023. and the environmental studies
  4024. from federal agencies.
  4025.  
  4026. 842
  4027. 00:34:47,218 --> 00:34:52,023
  4028. We get back page after page
  4029. of blacked out information
  4030.  
  4031. 843
  4032. 00:34:52,023 --> 00:34:56,794
  4033. because the company
  4034. claim confidential
  4035. business information.
  4036.  
  4037. 844
  4038. 00:34:56,794 --> 00:35:00,565
  4039. - Consumers have no idea
  4040. what is in the products
  4041.  
  4042. 845
  4043. 00:35:00,565 --> 00:35:01,899
  4044. that they consume.
  4045.  
  4046. 846
  4047. 00:35:01,899 --> 00:35:03,668
  4048. - So, how sick
  4049. something makes me
  4050.  
  4051. 847
  4052. 00:35:03,668 --> 00:35:06,771
  4053. and how bad it pollutes
  4054. the environment
  4055.  
  4056. 848
  4057. 00:35:06,771 --> 00:35:08,673
  4058. is a secret for a company.
  4059.  
  4060. 849
  4061. 00:35:08,673 --> 00:35:10,241
  4062. - In the animal
  4063. agriculture industry,
  4064.  
  4065. 850
  4066. 00:35:10,241 --> 00:35:11,709
  4067. as in the tobacco industry,
  4068.  
  4069. 851
  4070. 00:35:11,709 --> 00:35:14,278
  4071. these companies really
  4072. have a vested interest
  4073.  
  4074. 852
  4075. 00:35:14,278 --> 00:35:17,181
  4076. in making sure that the public
  4077. doesn't have information
  4078.  
  4079. 853
  4080. 00:35:17,181 --> 00:35:19,484
  4081. about their effects
  4082. and what risks
  4083.  
  4084. 854
  4085. 00:35:19,484 --> 00:35:21,686
  4086. are really post
  4087. to consuming them.
  4088.  
  4089. 855
  4090. 00:35:21,686 --> 00:35:23,454
  4091. - Have the system where animals
  4092.  
  4093. 856
  4094. 00:35:23,454 --> 00:35:25,389
  4095. are living in their own waste,
  4096.  
  4097. 857
  4098. 00:35:25,389 --> 00:35:29,193
  4099. they're living next to animals
  4100. that are sick or even dead
  4101.  
  4102. 858
  4103. 00:35:29,193 --> 00:35:31,028
  4104. and they're stuck in
  4105. cages with these animals.
  4106.  
  4107. 859
  4108. 00:35:31,028 --> 00:35:33,564
  4109. The bacteria tends to
  4110. spread that the pathogens
  4111.  
  4112. 860
  4113. 00:35:33,564 --> 00:35:36,334
  4114. that are being created in
  4115. these filthy conditions
  4116.  
  4117. 861
  4118. 00:35:36,334 --> 00:35:38,169
  4119. are breeding resistance
  4120. to antibiotics
  4121.  
  4122. 862
  4123. 00:35:38,169 --> 00:35:40,538
  4124. and the public are
  4125. becoming exposed to those.
  4126.  
  4127. 863
  4128. 00:35:40,538 --> 00:35:42,840
  4129. - We already had people
  4130. dying from salmonella
  4131.  
  4132. 864
  4133. 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,443
  4134. and other things that you eat.
  4135.  
  4136. 865
  4137. 00:35:45,443 --> 00:35:48,412
  4138. We have about 3,000
  4139. people die every year
  4140.  
  4141. 866
  4142. 00:35:48,412 --> 00:35:49,981
  4143. in the United States.
  4144.  
  4145. 867
  4146. 00:35:49,981 --> 00:35:51,983
  4147. That's more than
  4148. the number of people
  4149.  
  4150. 868
  4151. 00:35:51,983 --> 00:35:56,387
  4152. that were killed in 9/11 in
  4153. the Twin Towers of New York.
  4154.  
  4155. 869
  4156. 00:35:56,387 --> 00:35:58,656
  4157. If we had some
  4158. terrorists organization
  4159.  
  4160. 870
  4161. 00:35:58,656 --> 00:36:02,126
  4162. killing 3,000 people a year,
  4163. we would be all over it.
  4164.  
  4165. 871
  4166. 00:36:02,126 --> 00:36:06,063
  4167. The antibiotic-resistant
  4168. bacteria deaths that we have
  4169.  
  4170. 872
  4171. 00:36:06,063 --> 00:36:10,134
  4172. on top of that, you get a
  4173. 20,000 people die in a year.
  4174.  
  4175. 873
  4176. 00:36:10,134 --> 00:36:13,638
  4177. That's seven 9/11's every year.
  4178.  
  4179. 874
  4180. 00:36:14,972 --> 00:36:16,541
  4181. Can you imagine?
  4182.  
  4183. 875
  4184. 00:36:16,541 --> 00:36:18,543
  4185. If that many people
  4186. were being killed
  4187.  
  4188. 876
  4189. 00:36:18,543 --> 00:36:21,646
  4190. by some terrorist group in
  4191. the United States every year,
  4192.  
  4193. 877
  4194. 00:36:21,646 --> 00:36:23,014
  4195. we would find them.
  4196.  
  4197. 878
  4198. 00:36:23,014 --> 00:36:25,349
  4199. - The World Health Organization
  4200. had said we're nearing
  4201.  
  4202. 879
  4203. 00:36:25,349 --> 00:36:27,585
  4204. in a post-antibiotic
  4205. era in medicine.
  4206.  
  4207. 880
  4208. 00:36:27,585 --> 00:36:29,086
  4209. You'll be at risk
  4210. in minor surgeries
  4211.  
  4212. 881
  4213. 00:36:29,086 --> 00:36:31,088
  4214. to have a fatal infection.
  4215.  
  4216. 882
  4217. 00:36:31,088 --> 00:36:32,623
  4218. You'll be at risk
  4219. going to the dentist
  4220.  
  4221. 883
  4222. 00:36:32,623 --> 00:36:35,760
  4223. if you have a tooth extracted
  4224. or be like Civil War medicine.
  4225.  
  4226. 884
  4227. 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,296
  4228. You get an infection in your
  4229. leg and you cut your leg off.
  4230.  
  4231. 885
  4232. 00:36:38,296 --> 00:36:40,731
  4233. So, you have this very
  4234. dangerous situation.
  4235.  
  4236. 886
  4237. 00:36:40,731 --> 00:36:42,733
  4238. By crowding these animals in,
  4239.  
  4240. 887
  4241. 00:36:42,733 --> 00:36:46,304
  4242. they become a perfect
  4243. engine for generating
  4244.  
  4245. 888
  4246. 00:36:46,304 --> 00:36:49,540
  4247. usually a virus that can
  4248. come out into the community.
  4249.  
  4250. 889
  4251. 00:36:49,540 --> 00:36:52,577
  4252. If you lived near a
  4253. swine spray field,
  4254.  
  4255. 890
  4256. 00:36:52,577 --> 00:36:56,080
  4257. not even decay field but
  4258. the waste disposal field,
  4259.  
  4260. 891
  4261. 00:36:56,080 --> 00:37:00,518
  4262. you are three times more
  4263. likely to have MRSA infection.
  4264.  
  4265. 892
  4266. 00:37:00,518 --> 00:37:04,922
  4267. You can't see how that impacts
  4268. the average person's life
  4269.  
  4270. 893
  4271. 00:37:04,922 --> 00:37:07,058
  4272. in Duplin County, North Carolina
  4273.  
  4274. 894
  4275. 00:37:07,058 --> 00:37:09,961
  4276. and not be a little
  4277. upset about it.
  4278.  
  4279. 895
  4280. 00:37:11,028 --> 00:37:12,763
  4281. - From environmental standpoint,
  4282.  
  4283. 896
  4284. 00:37:12,763 --> 00:37:14,198
  4285. from a community standpoint,
  4286.  
  4287. 897
  4288. 00:37:14,198 --> 00:37:16,434
  4289. from all other aspects,
  4290. North Carolina,
  4291.  
  4292. 898
  4293. 00:37:16,434 --> 00:37:18,135
  4294. we're in a state of emergency.
  4295.  
  4296. 899
  4297. 00:37:18,135 --> 00:37:21,105
  4298. We've already had bouts
  4299. of swine flu or H1N1
  4300.  
  4301. 900
  4302. 00:37:21,105 --> 00:37:22,673
  4303. as they prefer to refer to it.
  4304.  
  4305. 901
  4306. 00:37:22,673 --> 00:37:25,576
  4307. That particular swine flu
  4308. incident was originated
  4309.  
  4310. 902
  4311. 00:37:25,576 --> 00:37:28,045
  4312. on a farm here in
  4313. North Carolina.
  4314.  
  4315. 903
  4316. 00:37:28,045 --> 00:37:30,514
  4317. There's approximately
  4318. the same number of hogs
  4319.  
  4320. 904
  4321. 00:37:30,514 --> 00:37:32,450
  4322. in North Carolina
  4323. as there are people.
  4324.  
  4325. 905
  4326. 00:37:32,450 --> 00:37:35,720
  4327. Between eight to 10
  4328. times the amount of feces
  4329.  
  4330. 906
  4331. 00:37:35,720 --> 00:37:37,888
  4332. is produced by a
  4333. hog, an adult hog
  4334.  
  4335. 907
  4336. 00:37:37,888 --> 00:37:40,157
  4337. as compared to an adult human.
  4338.  
  4339. 908
  4340. 00:37:40,157 --> 00:37:41,792
  4341. - [Kip] 10 million
  4342. pigs in North Carolina
  4343.  
  4344. 909
  4345. 00:37:41,792 --> 00:37:44,929
  4346. produce the waste equal
  4347. to 100 million humans.
  4348.  
  4349. 910
  4350. 00:37:44,929 --> 00:37:48,332
  4351. This is the equivalent of the
  4352. entire US eastern sea board
  4353.  
  4354. 911
  4355. 00:37:48,332 --> 00:37:50,868
  4356. flushing their toilets
  4357. into North Carolina
  4358.  
  4359. 912
  4360. 00:37:50,868 --> 00:37:52,336
  4361. but there's no waste treatment.
  4362.  
  4363. 913
  4364. 00:37:52,336 --> 00:37:54,438
  4365. The pigs' waste falls
  4366. through slats in the floors
  4367.  
  4368. 914
  4369. 00:37:54,438 --> 00:37:56,173
  4370. of the sheds they are
  4371. forced to live in.
  4372.  
  4373. 915
  4374. 00:37:56,173 --> 00:37:58,109
  4375. It is then pumped in
  4376. the giant waste pits
  4377.  
  4378. 916
  4379. 00:37:58,109 --> 00:37:59,977
  4380. which leach in the
  4381. rivers and streams
  4382.  
  4383. 917
  4384. 00:37:59,977 --> 00:38:02,546
  4385. and is pumped out
  4386. unfiltered on the fields
  4387.  
  4388. 918
  4389. 00:38:02,546 --> 00:38:06,217
  4390. further polluting
  4391. the environment and
  4392. neighboring health.
  4393.  
  4394. 919
  4395. 00:38:06,217 --> 00:38:07,918
  4396. - When you go back
  4397. and you look at
  4398.  
  4399. 920
  4400. 00:38:07,918 --> 00:38:10,187
  4401. where these hog
  4402. facilities are located,
  4403.  
  4404. 921
  4405. 00:38:10,187 --> 00:38:12,723
  4406. there's a disproportionate
  4407. number of them
  4408.  
  4409. 922
  4410. 00:38:12,723 --> 00:38:15,826
  4411. that are located near
  4412. communities of color,
  4413.  
  4414. 923
  4415. 00:38:15,826 --> 00:38:17,061
  4416. low income communities.
  4417.  
  4418. 924
  4419. 00:38:17,061 --> 00:38:20,231
  4420. It is definitely a
  4421. human rights issue.
  4422.  
  4423. 925
  4424. 00:38:20,231 --> 00:38:22,733
  4425. - My sister, she have
  4426. asthma and you know,
  4427.  
  4428. 926
  4429. 00:38:22,733 --> 00:38:25,336
  4430. her brother, he have asthma.
  4431.  
  4432. 927
  4433. 00:38:25,336 --> 00:38:29,440
  4434. He's three and we don't
  4435. know what she might have.
  4436.  
  4437. 928
  4438. 00:38:30,841 --> 00:38:34,545
  4439. I have asthma, I have
  4440. sinus, I have sarcoidosis,
  4441.  
  4442. 929
  4443. 00:38:34,545 --> 00:38:36,247
  4444. that's what the bacteria,
  4445.  
  4446. 930
  4447. 00:38:36,247 --> 00:38:40,851
  4448. and I have a pacemaker which
  4449. is sick sinus syndrome.
  4450.  
  4451. 931
  4452. 00:38:40,851 --> 00:38:43,220
  4453. Mostly everybody in
  4454. this neighborhood
  4455.  
  4456. 932
  4457. 00:38:43,220 --> 00:38:45,423
  4458. got asthma or even cancer.
  4459.  
  4460. 933
  4461. 00:38:45,423 --> 00:38:49,593
  4462. My neighbor there died from
  4463. cancer probably just last year.
  4464.  
  4465. 934
  4466. 00:38:49,593 --> 00:38:51,696
  4467. My nephew down the
  4468. street, he's got cancer.
  4469.  
  4470. 935
  4471. 00:38:51,696 --> 00:38:54,065
  4472. He's in terminal
  4473. cancer stage four,
  4474.  
  4475. 936
  4476. 00:38:54,065 --> 00:38:56,634
  4477. not a smoker, not a drinker.
  4478.  
  4479. 937
  4480. 00:38:56,634 --> 00:38:59,670
  4481. And it's not in his lungs,
  4482. it's in his lip nose.
  4483.  
  4484. 938
  4485. 00:38:59,670 --> 00:39:03,007
  4486. 'Cause if you live here
  4487. and saw the way they do,
  4488.  
  4489. 939
  4490. 00:39:03,007 --> 00:39:04,709
  4491. you will eat no pork.
  4492.  
  4493. 940
  4494. 00:39:04,709 --> 00:39:07,611
  4495. We don't eat bacon because
  4496. I know it come from.
  4497.  
  4498. 941
  4499. 00:39:07,611 --> 00:39:10,181
  4500. When they die,
  4501. they go into a box
  4502.  
  4503. 942
  4504. 00:39:10,181 --> 00:39:12,550
  4505. and they decompose
  4506. because they swell from,
  4507.  
  4508. 943
  4509. 00:39:12,550 --> 00:39:14,218
  4510. especially from heat.
  4511.  
  4512. 944
  4513. 00:39:14,218 --> 00:39:17,054
  4514. A truck come and pick 'em up,
  4515.  
  4516. 945
  4517. 00:39:17,054 --> 00:39:19,957
  4518. take 'em to the processing
  4519. plant in Roseville,
  4520.  
  4521. 946
  4522. 00:39:19,957 --> 00:39:24,829
  4523. round 'em up into feed, and
  4524. feed it back to the hogs.
  4525.  
  4526. 947
  4527. 00:39:24,829 --> 00:39:26,564
  4528. Come at this door, if
  4529. he's spraying there,
  4530.  
  4531. 948
  4532. 00:39:26,564 --> 00:39:28,032
  4533. it's then come in my face.
  4534.  
  4535. 949
  4536. 00:39:28,032 --> 00:39:29,567
  4537. It hits you right in that face.
  4538.  
  4539. 950
  4540. 00:39:29,567 --> 00:39:31,435
  4541. It smells like something that
  4542. you had never smelled before,
  4543.  
  4544. 951
  4545. 00:39:31,435 --> 00:39:34,538
  4546. something rotten and dead body.
  4547.  
  4548. 952
  4549. 00:39:34,538 --> 00:39:36,107
  4550. It's the family graveyard.
  4551.  
  4552. 953
  4553. 00:39:36,107 --> 00:39:37,908
  4554. I have my grandmother there,
  4555.  
  4556. 954
  4557. 00:39:37,908 --> 00:39:40,511
  4558. my sisters, my brothers.
  4559.  
  4560. 955
  4561. 00:39:40,511 --> 00:39:42,880
  4562. When we go to funeral,
  4563. he used to spray.
  4564.  
  4565. 956
  4566. 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,081
  4567. - [Kip] During the funeral?
  4568.  
  4569. 957
  4570. 00:39:44,081 --> 00:39:46,517
  4571. - Yes, during the funeral.
  4572.  
  4573. 958
  4574. 00:39:46,517 --> 00:39:48,686
  4575. Yeah, they spray,
  4576.  
  4577. 959
  4578. 00:39:48,686 --> 00:39:50,287
  4579. and when the people come,
  4580.  
  4581. 960
  4582. 00:39:50,287 --> 00:39:52,890
  4583. everybody be closing their
  4584. nose up saying how it stank.
  4585.  
  4586. 961
  4587. 00:39:52,890 --> 00:39:56,093
  4588. They can wanna with a cookout
  4589. on Sunday, he'll spray.
  4590.  
  4591. 962
  4592. 00:39:56,093 --> 00:39:57,595
  4593. - Do you think he
  4594. does that on purpose?
  4595.  
  4596. 963
  4597. 00:39:57,595 --> 00:40:00,531
  4598. - I think so 'cause he
  4599. just spray at Sunday.
  4600.  
  4601. 964
  4602. 00:40:00,531 --> 00:40:02,700
  4603. He always spray at Sunday.
  4604.  
  4605. 965
  4606. 00:40:02,700 --> 00:40:06,370
  4607. And most of these area, hog
  4608. houses and turkey house,
  4609.  
  4610. 966
  4611. 00:40:06,370 --> 00:40:09,940
  4612. is in the black area
  4613. or the Hispanic area.
  4614.  
  4615. 967
  4616. 00:40:09,940 --> 00:40:11,575
  4617. It's either or.
  4618.  
  4619. 968
  4620. 00:40:11,575 --> 00:40:13,778
  4621. - Do you think it's
  4622. also civil rights issue?
  4623.  
  4624. 969
  4625. 00:40:13,778 --> 00:40:16,113
  4626. - Yes, yes, I do, yes, I do.
  4627.  
  4628. 970
  4629. 00:40:23,821 --> 00:40:26,190
  4630. - There have been
  4631. times in the past
  4632.  
  4633. 971
  4634. 00:40:26,190 --> 00:40:29,326
  4635. that I have gotten
  4636. rid on the Sunday,
  4637.  
  4638. 972
  4639. 00:40:29,326 --> 00:40:30,795
  4640. gotten rid of going to church
  4641.  
  4642. 973
  4643. 00:40:30,795 --> 00:40:33,631
  4644. and come out and the
  4645. smell was so strong
  4646.  
  4647. 974
  4648. 00:40:33,631 --> 00:40:36,433
  4649. that I had to go
  4650. back and regroup
  4651.  
  4652. 975
  4653. 00:40:36,433 --> 00:40:37,868
  4654. because it got in my clothes
  4655.  
  4656. 976
  4657. 00:40:37,868 --> 00:40:40,437
  4658. and I ain't just
  4659. gonna go to church
  4660.  
  4661. 977
  4662. 00:40:40,437 --> 00:40:43,140
  4663. smelling like hogs,
  4664. I just can't do it.
  4665.  
  4666. 978
  4667. 00:40:43,140 --> 00:40:46,343
  4668. I don't think to grow my kids.
  4669.  
  4670. 979
  4671. 00:40:46,343 --> 00:40:49,180
  4672. They care more about cooperation
  4673.  
  4674. 980
  4675. 00:40:49,180 --> 00:40:52,149
  4676. than do people's inner visions.
  4677.  
  4678. 981
  4679. 00:40:52,149 --> 00:40:53,417
  4680. - And they're gonna keep on.
  4681.  
  4682. 982
  4683. 00:40:53,417 --> 00:40:54,919
  4684. They're gonna put more
  4685. chickens in this state.
  4686.  
  4687. 983
  4688. 00:40:54,919 --> 00:40:56,387
  4689. This is the feces and you're
  4690. in captain of the world
  4691.  
  4692. 984
  4693. 00:40:56,387 --> 00:40:59,423
  4694. right here in North
  4695. Carolina, my state.
  4696.  
  4697. 985
  4698. 00:40:59,423 --> 00:41:01,425
  4699. There's a blue line
  4700. stream right here
  4701.  
  4702. 986
  4703. 00:41:01,425 --> 00:41:03,093
  4704. come into my property almost
  4705.  
  4706. 987
  4707. 00:41:03,093 --> 00:41:04,528
  4708. and the continue
  4709. creek, right here.
  4710.  
  4711. 988
  4712. 00:41:04,528 --> 00:41:06,831
  4713. I've seen that blue line
  4714. stream in that field
  4715.  
  4716. 989
  4717. 00:41:06,831 --> 00:41:08,999
  4718. with feces and urine
  4719. from that hog pen
  4720.  
  4721. 990
  4722. 00:41:08,999 --> 00:41:11,268
  4723. and they can say, "Well,
  4724. we feed the world."
  4725.  
  4726. 991
  4727. 00:41:11,268 --> 00:41:12,903
  4728. They're not interested
  4729. in feeding the world,
  4730.  
  4731. 992
  4732. 00:41:12,903 --> 00:41:14,371
  4733. they're interested
  4734. in making money.
  4735.  
  4736. 993
  4737. 00:41:14,371 --> 00:41:17,141
  4738. You take the money away from
  4739. and let the folks starve
  4740.  
  4741. 994
  4742. 00:41:17,141 --> 00:41:18,609
  4743. 'cause if you want
  4744. to feed the world,
  4745.  
  4746. 995
  4747. 00:41:18,609 --> 00:41:21,312
  4748. you can feed the world with
  4749. more corn, using corn and wheat,
  4750.  
  4751. 996
  4752. 00:41:21,312 --> 00:41:22,813
  4753. instead of that and
  4754. your canned meat.
  4755.  
  4756. 997
  4757. 00:41:22,813 --> 00:41:24,315
  4758. Meat is a luxury item.
  4759.  
  4760. 998
  4761. 00:41:24,315 --> 00:41:27,384
  4762. When we are doing things
  4763. that hurt other people,
  4764.  
  4765. 999
  4766. 00:41:27,384 --> 00:41:30,020
  4767. we're wrong, but a
  4768. lot of good people
  4769.  
  4770. 1000
  4771. 00:41:30,020 --> 00:41:33,691
  4772. will sit there and
  4773. eat bacon knowing
  4774.  
  4775. 1001
  4776. 00:41:33,691 --> 00:41:37,862
  4777. that it's causing someone
  4778. else to be very unhappy.
  4779.  
  4780. 1002
  4781. 00:41:39,463 --> 00:41:40,631
  4782. - I woke up the next morning
  4783.  
  4784. 1003
  4785. 00:41:40,631 --> 00:41:42,066
  4786. to find the Bern
  4787. River had experienced
  4788.  
  4789. 1004
  4790. 00:41:42,066 --> 00:41:43,734
  4791. another massive fish kill
  4792.  
  4793. 1005
  4794. 00:41:43,734 --> 00:41:46,370
  4795. from the pollution
  4796. running off hog farms.
  4797.  
  4798. 1006
  4799. 00:41:46,370 --> 00:41:50,774
  4800. Tens of thousands of fish
  4801. were washing up on shore.
  4802.  
  4803. 1007
  4804. 00:41:50,774 --> 00:41:52,076
  4805. All this talk about
  4806. health, I realized
  4807.  
  4808. 1008
  4809. 00:41:52,076 --> 00:41:55,179
  4810. that I was only focused
  4811. on personal health,
  4812.  
  4813. 1009
  4814. 00:41:55,179 --> 00:41:57,715
  4815. but health started to
  4816. mean so much more to me.
  4817.  
  4818. 1010
  4819. 00:41:57,715 --> 00:42:00,284
  4820. It was about health of my
  4821. family and our communities.
  4822.  
  4823. 1011
  4824. 00:42:00,284 --> 00:42:02,253
  4825. I couldn't honor good,
  4826. conscious supporting industry
  4827.  
  4828. 1012
  4829. 00:42:02,253 --> 00:42:04,755
  4830. that I knew is harming others.
  4831.  
  4832. 1013
  4833. 00:42:06,657 --> 00:42:09,293
  4834. Pollution from animal
  4835. agriculture isn't just an issue
  4836.  
  4837. 1014
  4838. 00:42:09,293 --> 00:42:10,728
  4839. in North Carolina though.
  4840.  
  4841. 1015
  4842. 00:42:10,728 --> 00:42:13,430
  4843. Raising animals for food
  4844. produces more greenhouse gases
  4845.  
  4846. 1016
  4847. 00:42:13,430 --> 00:42:15,900
  4848. than the entire
  4849. transportation sector.
  4850.  
  4851. 1017
  4852. 00:42:15,900 --> 00:42:17,935
  4853. It's the leading cause of
  4854. rainforest destruction,
  4855.  
  4856. 1018
  4857. 00:42:17,935 --> 00:42:20,437
  4858. species extinction,
  4859. ocean dead zones,
  4860.  
  4861. 1019
  4862. 00:42:20,437 --> 00:42:22,673
  4863. and freshwater consumption.
  4864.  
  4865. 1020
  4866. 00:42:27,745 --> 00:42:31,015
  4867. American Diabetes Association
  4868. actually finally got back
  4869.  
  4870. 1021
  4871. 00:42:31,015 --> 00:42:33,684
  4872. and they agreed to an interview.
  4873.  
  4874. 1022
  4875. 00:42:35,052 --> 00:42:37,454
  4876. Preparing for the American
  4877. Diabetes Association interview,
  4878.  
  4879. 1023
  4880. 00:42:37,454 --> 00:42:39,023
  4881. I took a look at their diabetes
  4882.  
  4883. 1024
  4884. 00:42:39,023 --> 00:42:40,758
  4885. diet meal plan recommendations
  4886.  
  4887. 1025
  4888. 00:42:40,758 --> 00:42:42,726
  4889. and they were loaded with foods
  4890.  
  4891. 1026
  4892. 00:42:42,726 --> 00:42:45,262
  4893. associated with
  4894. causing diabetes.
  4895.  
  4896. 1027
  4897. 00:42:45,262 --> 00:42:47,598
  4898. How could they expect
  4899. people not to get diabetes
  4900.  
  4901. 1028
  4902. 00:42:47,598 --> 00:42:50,701
  4903. if this was the food
  4904. they're recommending?
  4905.  
  4906. 1029
  4907. 00:42:50,701 --> 00:42:53,437
  4908. And then, I saw multiple
  4909. peer reviewed studies
  4910.  
  4911. 1030
  4912. 00:42:53,437 --> 00:42:55,572
  4913. published on the National
  4914. Institute of Health website
  4915.  
  4916. 1031
  4917. 00:42:55,572 --> 00:42:57,608
  4918. showing that a low-fat
  4919. plant-based diet
  4920.  
  4921. 1032
  4922. 00:42:57,608 --> 00:42:59,810
  4923. was more than twice as
  4924. powerful at controlling
  4925.  
  4926. 1033
  4927. 00:42:59,810 --> 00:43:03,414
  4928. and even reversing diabetes
  4929. than the 88 recommended diet
  4930.  
  4931. 1034
  4932. 00:43:03,414 --> 00:43:06,250
  4933. that included meat and dairy.
  4934.  
  4935. 1035
  4936. 00:43:06,250 --> 00:43:09,820
  4937. - Well, the mission of the
  4938. American Diabetes Association
  4939.  
  4940. 1036
  4941. 00:43:09,820 --> 00:43:13,991
  4942. is to identify a prevention
  4943. and a cure for diabetes.
  4944.  
  4945. 1037
  4946. 00:43:16,460 --> 00:43:19,063
  4947. But in the meantime,
  4948. to improve the lives
  4949.  
  4950. 1038
  4951. 00:43:19,063 --> 00:43:22,333
  4952. of all people who are
  4953. affected by diabetes.
  4954.  
  4955. 1039
  4956. 00:43:22,333 --> 00:43:25,836
  4957. - And what's the best
  4958. way to prevent this?
  4959.  
  4960. 1040
  4961. 00:43:27,471 --> 00:43:30,307
  4962. - For type II
  4963. diabetes, it's unclear.
  4964.  
  4965. 1041
  4966. 00:43:30,307 --> 00:43:34,745
  4967. We can't prevent type II
  4968. diabetes in everybody.
  4969.  
  4970. 1042
  4971. 00:43:34,745 --> 00:43:37,948
  4972. - During a research, we
  4973. came across a lot of studies
  4974.  
  4975. 1043
  4976. 00:43:37,948 --> 00:43:42,119
  4977. that said that you actually
  4978. could potentially cure
  4979.  
  4980. 1044
  4981. 00:43:43,554 --> 00:43:47,091
  4982. or reverse diabetes with
  4983. a purely plant-based diet.
  4984.  
  4985. 1045
  4986. 00:43:47,091 --> 00:43:49,026
  4987. - I don't believe there
  4988. is sufficient evidence
  4989.  
  4990. 1046
  4991. 00:43:49,026 --> 00:43:50,694
  4992. to demonstrate that.
  4993.  
  4994. 1047
  4995. 00:43:52,162 --> 00:43:56,266
  4996. - How does it compare to the
  4997. ADA diet that you recommend?
  4998.  
  4999. 1048
  5000. 00:43:56,266 --> 00:43:58,135
  5001. - We don't recommend
  5002. a specific diet.
  5003.  
  5004. 1049
  5005. 00:43:58,135 --> 00:44:00,738
  5006. We recommend healthy eating.
  5007.  
  5008. 1050
  5009. 00:44:00,738 --> 00:44:02,239
  5010. - The one that's on the website?
  5011.  
  5012. 1051
  5013. 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,842
  5014. - We recommend healthy
  5015. eating, there is--
  5016.  
  5017. 1052
  5018. 00:44:04,842 --> 00:44:08,512
  5019. - You have a whole list
  5020. of exact day-to-day,
  5021.  
  5022. 1053
  5023. 00:44:09,947 --> 00:44:11,582
  5024. the meal plan, the
  5025. whole meal plan?
  5026.  
  5027. 1054
  5028. 00:44:11,582 --> 00:44:14,785
  5029. - All they are are selections
  5030. of foods to consider.
  5031.  
  5032. 1055
  5033. 00:44:14,785 --> 00:44:17,121
  5034. We do not have a diabetes diet.
  5035.  
  5036. 1056
  5037. 00:44:17,121 --> 00:44:21,525
  5038. - But with that selections,
  5039. do you consider that plan
  5040.  
  5041. 1057
  5042. 00:44:21,525 --> 00:44:24,228
  5043. compared to a whole
  5044. plant-based plan?
  5045.  
  5046. 1058
  5047. 00:44:24,228 --> 00:44:26,497
  5048. - No one's done that study.
  5049.  
  5050. 1059
  5051. 00:44:26,497 --> 00:44:28,265
  5052. - We've found
  5053. actually some studies,
  5054.  
  5055. 1060
  5056. 00:44:28,265 --> 00:44:31,035
  5057. a 74-week study found
  5058. that low-fat vegan diet
  5059.  
  5060. 1061
  5061. 00:44:31,035 --> 00:44:34,772
  5062. versus the ADA plan
  5063. in type II diabetes--
  5064.  
  5065. 1062
  5066. 00:44:34,772 --> 00:44:36,473
  5067. - I think we're done here.
  5068.  
  5069. 1063
  5070. 00:44:36,473 --> 00:44:39,309
  5071. I'm not gonna get into
  5072. an argument about--
  5073.  
  5074. 1064
  5075. 00:44:39,309 --> 00:44:43,180
  5076. - Oh no, I just went
  5077. into studies of, the
  5078. studies of the...
  5079.  
  5080. 1065
  5081. 00:44:43,180 --> 00:44:46,050
  5082. If this is true or if
  5083. it's shows out of--
  5084.  
  5085. 1066
  5086. 00:44:46,050 --> 00:44:47,451
  5087. - Any diet works.
  5088.  
  5089. 1067
  5090. 00:44:49,319 --> 00:44:52,256
  5091. Any diet works if
  5092. people follow it.
  5093.  
  5094. 1068
  5095. 00:44:53,690 --> 00:44:57,061
  5096. - But if it's a diet
  5097. that's not the proper diet,
  5098.  
  5099. 1069
  5100. 00:44:57,061 --> 00:44:59,096
  5101. like if anyone follows
  5102. a diet that the--
  5103.  
  5104. 1070
  5105. 00:44:59,096 --> 00:45:02,699
  5106. - I can't tell you
  5107. what a proper diet is.
  5108.  
  5109. 1071
  5110. 00:45:02,699 --> 00:45:05,469
  5111. I can tell you what
  5112. an improper diet is.
  5113.  
  5114. 1072
  5115. 00:45:05,469 --> 00:45:09,073
  5116. - So then, we can talk
  5117. about the good diets.
  5118.  
  5119. 1073
  5120. 00:45:09,073 --> 00:45:10,007
  5121. I'm not sure why--
  5122.  
  5123. 1074
  5124. 00:45:10,007 --> 00:45:11,675
  5125. - I'm not gonna get into that.
  5126.  
  5127. 1075
  5128. 00:45:11,675 --> 00:45:12,509
  5129. - Into diet?
  5130.  
  5131. 1076
  5132. 00:45:12,509 --> 00:45:13,844
  5133. - No.
  5134. - Well, why not?
  5135.  
  5136. 1077
  5137. 00:45:13,844 --> 00:45:16,447
  5138. - If that's where you
  5139. wanna go with this,
  5140.  
  5141. 1078
  5142. 00:45:16,447 --> 00:45:18,982
  5143. I'm sorry, I'm not the person
  5144. that you should be talking to.
  5145.  
  5146. 1079
  5147. 00:45:18,982 --> 00:45:20,350
  5148. - And why is that though?
  5149.  
  5150. 1080
  5151. 00:45:20,350 --> 00:45:22,219
  5152. - If that's what
  5153. you wanna get into,
  5154.  
  5155. 1081
  5156. 00:45:22,219 --> 00:45:24,021
  5157. I'm not the person you
  5158. need to be talking to.
  5159.  
  5160. 1082
  5161. 00:45:24,021 --> 00:45:26,623
  5162. - [Kip] Who do we
  5163. talk to about diet?
  5164.  
  5165. 1083
  5166. 00:45:26,623 --> 00:45:28,525
  5167. - You can talk to
  5168. anybody you want.
  5169.  
  5170. 1084
  5171. 00:45:28,525 --> 00:45:30,861
  5172. - But that's interesting,
  5173. then why not recommend a diet?
  5174.  
  5175. 1085
  5176. 00:45:30,861 --> 00:45:32,896
  5177. - Because the data don't
  5178. exist to support it.
  5179.  
  5180. 1086
  5181. 00:45:32,896 --> 00:45:36,567
  5182. - But if I've see, we see
  5183. data that we looked up,
  5184.  
  5185. 1087
  5186. 00:45:36,567 --> 00:45:39,002
  5187. that supports it
  5188. with like the NIH,
  5189.  
  5190. 1088
  5191. 00:45:39,002 --> 00:45:41,171
  5192. in Europe, the European--
  5193.  
  5194. 1089
  5195. 00:45:42,339 --> 00:45:43,440
  5196. - We're done.
  5197.  
  5198. 1090
  5199. 00:45:44,975 --> 00:45:46,210
  5200. We're done, I'm sorry.
  5201.  
  5202. 1091
  5203. 00:45:46,210 --> 00:45:47,377
  5204. I'm not gonna get
  5205. into that argument.
  5206.  
  5207. 1092
  5208. 00:45:47,377 --> 00:45:48,645
  5209. - But why is there an argument?
  5210.  
  5211. 1093
  5212. 00:45:48,645 --> 00:45:49,580
  5213. - I'm not gonna get
  5214. into that argument.
  5215.  
  5216. 1094
  5217. 00:45:49,580 --> 00:45:51,081
  5218. - But why is there an argument?
  5219.  
  5220. 1095
  5221. 00:45:51,081 --> 00:45:54,451
  5222. It's just the talking about
  5223. in European Study of Diabetes
  5224.  
  5225. 1096
  5226. 00:45:54,451 --> 00:45:58,222
  5227. and other places that
  5228. have studies why--
  5229.  
  5230. 1097
  5231. 00:45:58,222 --> 00:45:59,623
  5232. - There are lots of studies.
  5233.  
  5234. 1098
  5235. 00:45:59,623 --> 00:46:01,058
  5236. - [Kip] Why is this
  5237. even an argument?
  5238.  
  5239. 1099
  5240. 00:46:01,058 --> 00:46:04,194
  5241. - There are lots of
  5242. studies in the literature,
  5243.  
  5244. 1100
  5245. 00:46:04,194 --> 00:46:07,064
  5246. many of which have
  5247. never been replicated
  5248.  
  5249. 1101
  5250. 00:46:07,064 --> 00:46:09,133
  5251. or frankly, you're wrong.
  5252.  
  5253. 1102
  5254. 00:46:10,634 --> 00:46:13,704
  5255. That's why we do
  5256. peer review, okay?
  5257.  
  5258. 1103
  5259. 00:46:13,704 --> 00:46:16,740
  5260. - The European Association
  5261. of Study of Diabetes
  5262.  
  5263. 1104
  5264. 00:46:16,740 --> 00:46:18,809
  5265. has been peer reviewed or--
  5266.  
  5267. 1105
  5268. 00:46:18,809 --> 00:46:21,111
  5269. - I don't know what
  5270. study you're referring to
  5271.  
  5272. 1106
  5273. 00:46:21,111 --> 00:46:23,614
  5274. and yeah, in the absence of
  5275. being able to see that study,
  5276.  
  5277. 1107
  5278. 00:46:23,614 --> 00:46:24,882
  5279. I'm not gonna comment.
  5280.  
  5281. 1108
  5282. 00:46:24,882 --> 00:46:26,083
  5283. - I could show it to you.
  5284.  
  5285. 1109
  5286. 00:46:26,083 --> 00:46:27,718
  5287. - I'm sorry, I don't
  5288. have the time for that.
  5289.  
  5290. 1110
  5291. 00:46:27,718 --> 00:46:28,652
  5292. - I just don't understand why
  5293.  
  5294. 1111
  5295. 00:46:28,652 --> 00:46:31,221
  5296. it's an argument though or okay.
  5297.  
  5298. 1112
  5299. 00:46:39,596 --> 00:46:41,198
  5300. That was interesting.
  5301.  
  5302. 1113
  5303. 00:46:41,198 --> 00:46:42,432
  5304. What he wanna talk about
  5305.  
  5306. 1114
  5307. 00:46:42,432 --> 00:46:44,468
  5308. was people living
  5309. longer with diabetes
  5310.  
  5311. 1115
  5312. 00:46:44,468 --> 00:46:47,804
  5313. but once he mentioned
  5314. eliminating diabetes
  5315. or prevention,
  5316.  
  5317. 1116
  5318. 00:46:47,804 --> 00:46:50,274
  5319. oh, whoa, now you
  5320. cross the line.
  5321.  
  5322. 1117
  5323. 00:46:50,274 --> 00:46:55,145
  5324. Prevention and cure, whoa,
  5325. whoa, let's not go there.
  5326.  
  5327. 1118
  5328. 00:46:55,145 --> 00:46:57,948
  5329. Not only did Dr. Ratner,
  5330. the chief medical officer
  5331.  
  5332. 1119
  5333. 00:46:57,948 --> 00:47:00,150
  5334. of the American
  5335. Diabetes Association
  5336.  
  5337. 1120
  5338. 00:47:00,150 --> 00:47:02,019
  5339. not wanna talk about
  5340. diet but the fact
  5341.  
  5342. 1121
  5343. 00:47:02,019 --> 00:47:04,588
  5344. that he had such an emotional
  5345. reaction to my question
  5346.  
  5347. 1122
  5348. 00:47:04,588 --> 00:47:06,590
  5349. made it feel, I was
  5350. digging into something
  5351.  
  5352. 1123
  5353. 00:47:06,590 --> 00:47:08,559
  5354. that he didn't want uncovered.
  5355.  
  5356. 1124
  5357. 00:47:08,559 --> 00:47:10,794
  5358. I had always thought
  5359. there was no prevention
  5360.  
  5361. 1125
  5362. 00:47:10,794 --> 00:47:13,430
  5363. for type I diabetes but then,
  5364.  
  5365. 1126
  5366. 00:47:13,430 --> 00:47:15,499
  5367. I did research and came
  5368. across countless studies
  5369.  
  5370. 1127
  5371. 00:47:15,499 --> 00:47:17,134
  5372. referencing the link
  5373. between exposure
  5374.  
  5375. 1128
  5376. 00:47:17,134 --> 00:47:20,537
  5377. to dairy at a young
  5378. age in type I diabetes.
  5379.  
  5380. 1129
  5381. 00:47:20,537 --> 00:47:22,739
  5382. - This is a food
  5383. made for baby cows.
  5384.  
  5385. 1130
  5386. 00:47:22,739 --> 00:47:25,409
  5387. Cow milk protein get in the
  5388. bloodstream and the body says,
  5389.  
  5390. 1131
  5391. 00:47:25,409 --> 00:47:27,077
  5392. "Hey, this is not supposed
  5393. to be in bloodstream."
  5394.  
  5395. 1132
  5396. 00:47:27,077 --> 00:47:28,812
  5397. It makes antibodies,
  5398. the cow milk protein,
  5399.  
  5400. 1133
  5401. 00:47:28,812 --> 00:47:32,616
  5402. which then attack the pancreas
  5403. and destroy the pancreas.
  5404.  
  5405. 1134
  5406. 00:47:32,616 --> 00:47:34,084
  5407. - [Kip] How is this
  5408. possible that ADA
  5409.  
  5410. 1135
  5411. 00:47:34,084 --> 00:47:36,386
  5412. wouldn't have this
  5413. forefront on their website?
  5414.  
  5415. 1136
  5416. 00:47:36,386 --> 00:47:38,422
  5417. Why wouldn't they be warning
  5418. all parents about this
  5419.  
  5420. 1137
  5421. 00:47:38,422 --> 00:47:40,557
  5422. even if there are
  5423. only a slight chance?
  5424.  
  5425. 1138
  5426. 00:47:40,557 --> 00:47:42,226
  5427. Why were they
  5428. recommending people
  5429.  
  5430. 1139
  5431. 00:47:42,226 --> 00:47:45,095
  5432. to actually eat these
  5433. foods linked to diabetes?
  5434.  
  5435. 1140
  5436. 00:47:45,095 --> 00:47:47,197
  5437. It seemed all of the
  5438. large health organizations
  5439.  
  5440. 1141
  5441. 00:47:47,197 --> 00:47:49,366
  5442. were encouraging people
  5443. to eat the very foods
  5444.  
  5445. 1142
  5446. 00:47:49,366 --> 00:47:50,801
  5447. linked to the diseases,
  5448.  
  5449. 1143
  5450. 00:47:50,801 --> 00:47:52,936
  5451. they're supposed to
  5452. be fighting against.
  5453.  
  5454. 1144
  5455. 00:47:52,936 --> 00:47:55,005
  5456. American Heart Association
  5457. promoting beef,
  5458.  
  5459. 1145
  5460. 00:47:55,005 --> 00:47:57,341
  5461. American Cancer Society
  5462. promoting processed meat,
  5463.  
  5464. 1146
  5465. 00:47:57,341 --> 00:47:59,209
  5466. pink ribbons on dairy products,
  5467.  
  5468. 1147
  5469. 00:47:59,209 --> 00:48:03,447
  5470. and bacon wrapped shrimp on
  5471. American Diabetes Association.
  5472.  
  5473. 1148
  5474. 00:48:03,447 --> 00:48:06,750
  5475. And then, it all came together.
  5476.  
  5477. 1149
  5478. 00:48:06,750 --> 00:48:07,584
  5479. What if?
  5480.  
  5481. 1150
  5482. 00:48:12,256 --> 00:48:13,390
  5483. And there it was.
  5484.  
  5485. 1151
  5486. 00:48:13,390 --> 00:48:14,758
  5487. The American
  5488. Diabetes Association
  5489.  
  5490. 1152
  5491. 00:48:14,758 --> 00:48:16,426
  5492. was taking money from Dannon,
  5493.  
  5494. 1153
  5495. 00:48:16,426 --> 00:48:18,428
  5496. one of the world's largest
  5497. dairy yogurt producers,
  5498.  
  5499. 1154
  5500. 00:48:18,428 --> 00:48:20,697
  5501. Kraft Foods, makers of
  5502. Velveeta processed cheese,
  5503.  
  5504. 1155
  5505. 00:48:20,697 --> 00:48:22,099
  5506. Oscar Mayer processed meats,
  5507.  
  5508. 1156
  5509. 00:48:22,099 --> 00:48:23,834
  5510. Lunchables processed
  5511. kids' meals,
  5512.  
  5513. 1157
  5514. 00:48:23,834 --> 00:48:28,005
  5515. and Bumble Bee Foods, makers
  5516. of processed canned meats.
  5517.  
  5518. 1158
  5519. 00:48:30,974 --> 00:48:33,543
  5520. American Cancer Society was
  5521. taking money from Tyson,
  5522.  
  5523. 1159
  5524. 00:48:33,543 --> 00:48:35,512
  5525. one of the world's
  5526. largest meat producers
  5527.  
  5528. 1160
  5529. 00:48:35,512 --> 00:48:39,716
  5530. and Yum brand, owner of Pizza
  5531. Hut, KFC, and Taco Bell.
  5532.  
  5533. 1161
  5534. 00:48:39,716 --> 00:48:42,386
  5535. Susan G. Komen was supposed
  5536. to be fighting breast cancer
  5537.  
  5538. 1162
  5539. 00:48:42,386 --> 00:48:44,454
  5540. was corporate
  5541. partnering with KFC,
  5542.  
  5543. 1163
  5544. 00:48:44,454 --> 00:48:48,458
  5545. Dietz & Watson processed
  5546. meats, and Yoplait yogurt.
  5547.  
  5548. 1164
  5549. 00:48:48,458 --> 00:48:49,826
  5550. And the American
  5551. Heart Association
  5552.  
  5553. 1165
  5554. 00:48:49,826 --> 00:48:52,296
  5555. was probably the most
  5556. disturbing of all.
  5557.  
  5558. 1166
  5559. 00:48:52,296 --> 00:48:53,897
  5560. Taking hundreds of
  5561. thousands of dollars
  5562.  
  5563. 1167
  5564. 00:48:53,897 --> 00:48:57,200
  5565. from the beef industry,
  5566. poultry, and dairy producers,
  5567.  
  5568. 1168
  5569. 00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:58,969
  5570. and millions from fast food
  5571.  
  5572. 1169
  5573. 00:48:58,969 --> 00:49:01,672
  5574. and processed food
  5575. manufacturers.
  5576.  
  5577. 1170
  5578. 00:49:03,273 --> 00:49:05,342
  5579. Every single one of
  5580. these organizations
  5581.  
  5582. 1171
  5583. 00:49:05,342 --> 00:49:07,844
  5584. was taking money from
  5585. meat and dairy companies
  5586.  
  5587. 1172
  5588. 00:49:07,844 --> 00:49:11,214
  5589. that are associated with the
  5590. causes of these diseases.
  5591.  
  5592. 1173
  5593. 00:49:11,214 --> 00:49:12,749
  5594. This would be like the
  5595. American Lung Association
  5596.  
  5597. 1174
  5598. 00:49:12,749 --> 00:49:16,219
  5599. taking money from
  5600. the tobacco industry.
  5601.  
  5602. 1175
  5603. 00:49:16,219 --> 00:49:18,922
  5604. I was sick of not
  5605. getting answers
  5606.  
  5607. 1176
  5608. 00:49:18,922 --> 00:49:19,856
  5609. so I went to the headquarters
  5610.  
  5611. 1177
  5612. 00:49:19,856 --> 00:49:21,758
  5613. of these organizations myself.
  5614.  
  5615. 1178
  5616. 00:49:21,758 --> 00:49:23,794
  5617. We have to speak
  5618. someone in person.
  5619.  
  5620. 1179
  5621. 00:49:23,794 --> 00:49:26,563
  5622. There's millions of people
  5623. dying from the foods
  5624.  
  5625. 1180
  5626. 00:49:26,563 --> 00:49:29,433
  5627. that they are recommending
  5628. people to eat.
  5629.  
  5630. 1181
  5631. 00:49:29,433 --> 00:49:31,101
  5632. I wanted to find out
  5633. why Susan G. Komen
  5634.  
  5635. 1182
  5636. 00:49:31,101 --> 00:49:34,137
  5637. accepted 35 millions
  5638. dollars from Yoplait
  5639.  
  5640. 1183
  5641. 00:49:34,137 --> 00:49:36,006
  5642. when their products can
  5643. increase a woman's chance
  5644.  
  5645. 1184
  5646. 00:49:36,006 --> 00:49:38,975
  5647. of dying from breast cancer 49%.
  5648.  
  5649. 1185
  5650. 00:49:38,975 --> 00:49:40,410
  5651. And asked American
  5652. Cancer Society
  5653.  
  5654. 1186
  5655. 00:49:40,410 --> 00:49:42,012
  5656. of taking money
  5657. from KFC and Tyson
  5658.  
  5659. 1187
  5660. 00:49:42,012 --> 00:49:45,248
  5661. what's the reason they
  5662. promote eating meat.
  5663.  
  5664. 1188
  5665. 00:49:45,248 --> 00:49:46,750
  5666. But everyone of
  5667. these organizations
  5668.  
  5669. 1189
  5670. 00:49:46,750 --> 00:49:49,820
  5671. declined to be interviewed.
  5672.  
  5673. 1190
  5674. 00:49:49,820 --> 00:49:52,723
  5675. - What's really sad is that
  5676. we cannot trust information
  5677.  
  5678. 1191
  5679. 00:49:52,723 --> 00:49:55,625
  5680. from these leading
  5681. health organizations
  5682.  
  5683. 1192
  5684. 00:49:55,625 --> 00:49:57,127
  5685. like the American
  5686. Heart Association,
  5687.  
  5688. 1193
  5689. 00:49:57,127 --> 00:49:58,862
  5690. the American
  5691. Diabetes Association,
  5692.  
  5693. 1194
  5694. 00:49:58,862 --> 00:50:02,366
  5695. because they are taking money
  5696. from the very industries
  5697.  
  5698. 1195
  5699. 00:50:02,366 --> 00:50:04,034
  5700. who are causing the problems
  5701.  
  5702. 1196
  5703. 00:50:04,034 --> 00:50:07,070
  5704. that they're supposed to
  5705. be helping to prevent.
  5706.  
  5707. 1197
  5708. 00:50:07,070 --> 00:50:09,973
  5709. - So, that makes
  5710. the truth something
  5711.  
  5712. 1198
  5713. 00:50:09,973 --> 00:50:13,143
  5714. that you are not gonna be
  5715. hearing as far as nutrition goes
  5716.  
  5717. 1199
  5718. 00:50:13,143 --> 00:50:15,145
  5719. from these organizations.
  5720.  
  5721. 1200
  5722. 00:50:15,145 --> 00:50:16,680
  5723. Well, that would be the
  5724. end of their funding,
  5725.  
  5726. 1201
  5727. 00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:18,348
  5728. that would be the
  5729. end of their jobs,
  5730.  
  5731. 1202
  5732. 00:50:18,348 --> 00:50:20,283
  5733. there would be lawsuits,
  5734. they would bring
  5735.  
  5736. 1203
  5737. 00:50:20,283 --> 00:50:22,619
  5738. the entire catastrophe
  5739. down upon their heads,
  5740.  
  5741. 1204
  5742. 00:50:22,619 --> 00:50:24,688
  5743. and they would essentially
  5744. disappear as organizations.
  5745.  
  5746. 1205
  5747. 00:50:24,688 --> 00:50:27,924
  5748. - So, one time I got invited
  5749. to a charity fundraiser
  5750.  
  5751. 1206
  5752. 00:50:27,924 --> 00:50:30,193
  5753. for the American
  5754. Diabetes Association.
  5755.  
  5756. 1207
  5757. 00:50:30,193 --> 00:50:32,129
  5758. I showed up and they
  5759. had a whole buffet
  5760.  
  5761. 1208
  5762. 00:50:32,129 --> 00:50:35,098
  5763. and there was all
  5764. just animal products.
  5765.  
  5766. 1209
  5767. 00:50:35,098 --> 00:50:39,069
  5768. I remember like a big
  5769. thing of barbecue chicken,
  5770.  
  5771. 1210
  5772. 00:50:39,069 --> 00:50:40,737
  5773. and I was, like I stormed out.
  5774.  
  5775. 1211
  5776. 00:50:40,737 --> 00:50:44,408
  5777. I said, "Serving chicken
  5778. at a diabetes event
  5779.  
  5780. 1212
  5781. 00:50:45,909 --> 00:50:48,412
  5782. "is like serving alcohol
  5783. in an AA meeting.
  5784.  
  5785. 1213
  5786. 00:50:48,412 --> 00:50:50,814
  5787. "It just doesn't make sense."
  5788.  
  5789. 1214
  5790. 00:50:51,982 --> 00:50:53,316
  5791. - [Kip] We had scheduled
  5792. a filming interview
  5793.  
  5794. 1215
  5795. 00:50:53,316 --> 00:50:55,185
  5796. with a prominent surgeon
  5797.  
  5798. 1216
  5799. 00:50:55,185 --> 00:50:57,020
  5800. but before we could get
  5801. inside the building,
  5802.  
  5803. 1217
  5804. 00:50:57,020 --> 00:51:00,457
  5805. the hospital's media
  5806. relations manager stopped us.
  5807.  
  5808. 1218
  5809. 00:51:00,457 --> 00:51:01,925
  5810. - [Lady In White Blouse]
  5811. Actually, I understand
  5812.  
  5813. 1219
  5814. 00:51:01,925 --> 00:51:03,560
  5815. that Dr. that you
  5816. could film here today
  5817.  
  5818. 1220
  5819. 00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,963
  5820. but unfortunately, that's
  5821. not gonna be able to happen.
  5822.  
  5823. 1221
  5824. 00:51:06,963 --> 00:51:09,733
  5825. I know that he advocates for
  5826. patients changing their diets
  5827.  
  5828. 1222
  5829. 00:51:09,733 --> 00:51:12,402
  5830. but the hospital makes
  5831. money off these surgeries
  5832.  
  5833. 1223
  5834. 00:51:12,402 --> 00:51:14,438
  5835. and the reality is he does too.
  5836.  
  5837. 1224
  5838. 00:51:14,438 --> 00:51:16,907
  5839. So, we can't do anything
  5840. that's gonna negatively
  5841.  
  5842. 1225
  5843. 00:51:16,907 --> 00:51:18,742
  5844. impact the hospital
  5845. so unfortunately,
  5846.  
  5847. 1226
  5848. 00:51:18,742 --> 00:51:22,746
  5849. you're not gonna be
  5850. able to film here today.
  5851.  
  5852. 1227
  5853. 00:51:22,746 --> 00:51:24,548
  5854. - [Kip] I was sickened
  5855. by how open she was
  5856.  
  5857. 1228
  5858. 00:51:24,548 --> 00:51:26,450
  5859. about the hospital
  5860. being more interested
  5861.  
  5862. 1229
  5863. 00:51:26,450 --> 00:51:29,419
  5864. in profits than people's health.
  5865.  
  5866. 1230
  5867. 00:51:29,419 --> 00:51:32,456
  5868. But it wasn't just this
  5869. hospital or these organizations,
  5870.  
  5871. 1231
  5872. 00:51:32,456 --> 00:51:35,225
  5873. even the US government
  5874. is involved too.
  5875.  
  5876. 1232
  5877. 00:51:35,225 --> 00:51:37,327
  5878. Every five years, the US
  5879. Department or Agriculture
  5880.  
  5881. 1233
  5882. 00:51:37,327 --> 00:51:39,529
  5883. creates dietary
  5884. guidelines for Americans.
  5885.  
  5886. 1234
  5887. 00:51:39,529 --> 00:51:41,298
  5888. The committee who
  5889. writes these guidelines
  5890.  
  5891. 1235
  5892. 00:51:41,298 --> 00:51:42,699
  5893. has been made up of individuals
  5894.  
  5895. 1236
  5896. 00:51:42,699 --> 00:51:44,334
  5897. who have received
  5898. money from McDonald's,
  5899.  
  5900. 1237
  5901. 00:51:44,334 --> 00:51:46,703
  5902. the National Dairy Council,
  5903. the American Meat Institute,
  5904.  
  5905. 1238
  5906. 00:51:46,703 --> 00:51:47,971
  5907. the National Dairy Board,
  5908.  
  5909. 1239
  5910. 00:51:47,971 --> 00:51:49,439
  5911. the National Livestock
  5912. and Meat Board,
  5913.  
  5914. 1240
  5915. 00:51:49,439 --> 00:51:52,142
  5916. the American Egg Board, Dannon,
  5917. candy and sugar companies,
  5918.  
  5919. 1241
  5920. 00:51:52,142 --> 00:51:55,145
  5921. Coca-Cola, and Anheuser,
  5922. just to name a few,
  5923.  
  5924. 1242
  5925. 00:51:55,145 --> 00:51:57,214
  5926. which means we're getting
  5927. our dietary recommendations
  5928.  
  5929. 1243
  5930. 00:51:57,214 --> 00:51:59,783
  5931. from the very industries
  5932. that are killing us.
  5933.  
  5934. 1244
  5935. 00:51:59,783 --> 00:52:02,986
  5936. - And when they, the
  5937. USDA, makes a pyramid
  5938.  
  5939. 1245
  5940. 00:52:02,986 --> 00:52:06,223
  5941. or a power plate every five
  5942. years for the American public,
  5943.  
  5944. 1246
  5945. 00:52:06,223 --> 00:52:08,058
  5946. they're gonna guarantee
  5947. that on that plate
  5948.  
  5949. 1247
  5950. 00:52:08,058 --> 00:52:11,228
  5951. are gonna be foods
  5952. which when consumed,
  5953.  
  5954. 1248
  5955. 00:52:11,228 --> 00:52:15,332
  5956. will result in means of
  5957. American's perishing.
  5958.  
  5959. 1249
  5960. 00:52:15,332 --> 00:52:17,367
  5961. - The USDA which is
  5962. supposed to be protecting us
  5963.  
  5964. 1250
  5965. 00:52:17,367 --> 00:52:19,503
  5966. has two missions, it's
  5967. supposed to protect us
  5968.  
  5969. 1251
  5970. 00:52:19,503 --> 00:52:22,906
  5971. and it's supposed to protect
  5972. the producer, and guess what?
  5973.  
  5974. 1252
  5975. 00:52:22,906 --> 00:52:25,075
  5976. When those two
  5977. come head to head,
  5978.  
  5979. 1253
  5980. 00:52:25,075 --> 00:52:26,610
  5981. they usually choose
  5982. the producer.
  5983.  
  5984. 1254
  5985. 00:52:26,610 --> 00:52:29,045
  5986. - [Kip] In internal documents
  5987. uncovered by Dr. Gregor,
  5988.  
  5989. 1255
  5990. 00:52:29,045 --> 00:52:31,781
  5991. the USDA admitted that eggs
  5992. cannot legally be called
  5993.  
  5994. 1256
  5995. 00:52:31,781 --> 00:52:34,017
  5996. nutritious, low-fat, part
  5997. of the balanced diet,
  5998.  
  5999. 1257
  6000. 00:52:34,017 --> 00:52:35,785
  6001. low calorie, healthful, healthy,
  6002.  
  6003. 1258
  6004. 00:52:35,785 --> 00:52:38,355
  6005. can't say it's good
  6006. for you, or even safe,
  6007.  
  6008. 1259
  6009. 00:52:38,355 --> 00:52:39,823
  6010. yet they still
  6011. promote these products
  6012.  
  6013. 1260
  6014. 00:52:39,823 --> 00:52:43,126
  6015. to the American people through
  6016. federal checkoff programs.
  6017.  
  6018. 1261
  6019. 00:52:43,126 --> 00:52:44,594
  6020. - If you ask somebody
  6021. if they've heard
  6022.  
  6023. 1262
  6024. 00:52:44,594 --> 00:52:46,496
  6025. the checkoff program, they'll
  6026. answer that they haven't,
  6027.  
  6028. 1263
  6029. 00:52:46,496 --> 00:52:49,132
  6030. although daily, they
  6031. are seeing the messaging
  6032.  
  6033. 1264
  6034. 00:52:49,132 --> 00:52:50,934
  6035. that these programs produce.
  6036.  
  6037. 1265
  6038. 00:52:50,934 --> 00:52:52,702
  6039. So, checkoff programs
  6040. are responsible
  6041.  
  6042. 1266
  6043. 00:52:52,702 --> 00:52:55,505
  6044. for the messages
  6045. that we see on TV,
  6046.  
  6047. 1267
  6048. 00:52:55,505 --> 00:52:57,574
  6049. on the internet, on bus
  6050. billboards, and magazines
  6051.  
  6052. 1268
  6053. 00:52:57,574 --> 00:53:00,076
  6054. that say things like, "Milk,
  6055. it does the body good"
  6056.  
  6057. 1269
  6058. 00:53:00,076 --> 00:53:03,313
  6059. or "Milk life," "Beef,
  6060. it's what's for dinner,"
  6061.  
  6062. 1270
  6063. 00:53:03,313 --> 00:53:06,716
  6064. "Pork, be inspired,"
  6065. "Incredible, edible egg."
  6066.  
  6067. 1271
  6068. 00:53:06,716 --> 00:53:10,554
  6069. - The dairy checkoff program,
  6070. be it 12 million dollars
  6071.  
  6072. 1272
  6073. 00:53:10,554 --> 00:53:14,257
  6074. to dominoes, to just market
  6075. cheese-heavy product.
  6076.  
  6077. 1273
  6078. 00:53:14,257 --> 00:53:16,359
  6079. And this is the USDA,
  6080. this is the government.
  6081.  
  6082. 1274
  6083. 00:53:16,359 --> 00:53:18,428
  6084. If you've seen those ads
  6085. for the Pizza Hut pizza,
  6086.  
  6087. 1275
  6088. 00:53:18,428 --> 00:53:21,898
  6089. the stuffed crust or
  6090. a pound of cheese,
  6091.  
  6092. 1276
  6093. 00:53:21,898 --> 00:53:24,167
  6094. those are all government
  6095. advertising schemes
  6096.  
  6097. 1277
  6098. 00:53:24,167 --> 00:53:25,468
  6099. for the industry.
  6100.  
  6101. 1278
  6102. 00:53:25,468 --> 00:53:26,970
  6103. How can we put more
  6104. cheese on beef,
  6105.  
  6106. 1279
  6107. 00:53:26,970 --> 00:53:31,041
  6108. how can we put more milk in
  6109. a coffee, things like that
  6110.  
  6111. 1280
  6112. 00:53:31,041 --> 00:53:33,543
  6113. to just drive
  6114. consumption of these
  6115.  
  6116. 1281
  6117. 00:53:33,543 --> 00:53:36,446
  6118. just unbelievably
  6119. unhealthful products.
  6120.  
  6121. 1282
  6122. 00:53:36,446 --> 00:53:37,614
  6123. So, McDonald's, for instance,
  6124.  
  6125. 1283
  6126. 00:53:37,614 --> 00:53:40,684
  6127. has six people staffed full-time
  6128.  
  6129. 1284
  6130. 00:53:40,684 --> 00:53:42,218
  6131. according to records we've found
  6132.  
  6133. 1285
  6134. 00:53:42,218 --> 00:53:45,755
  6135. who's salaries are paid for
  6136. by this government program
  6137.  
  6138. 1286
  6139. 00:53:45,755 --> 00:53:48,992
  6140. but funded by the producers
  6141. who are regulated by it.
  6142.  
  6143. 1287
  6144. 00:53:48,992 --> 00:53:51,695
  6145. And these six people sit there
  6146. at McDonald's headquarters
  6147.  
  6148. 1288
  6149. 00:53:51,695 --> 00:53:54,030
  6150. and just come up with ideas.
  6151.  
  6152. 1289
  6153. 00:53:55,231 --> 00:53:58,234
  6154. - Triple cheese decker McCheese
  6155.  
  6156. 1290
  6157. 00:53:58,234 --> 00:54:01,071
  6158. muffin stuffed
  6159. bacon cheese slider?
  6160.  
  6161. 1291
  6162. 00:54:04,774 --> 00:54:05,909
  6163. - With extra cheese?
  6164.  
  6165. 1292
  6166. 00:54:05,909 --> 00:54:07,277
  6167. - [All] Yes.
  6168.  
  6169. 1293
  6170. 00:54:07,277 --> 00:54:09,579
  6171. - You don't think of it
  6172. on a day-to-day basis
  6173.  
  6174. 1294
  6175. 00:54:09,579 --> 00:54:12,048
  6176. that these are
  6177. government programs.
  6178.  
  6179. 1295
  6180. 00:54:12,048 --> 00:54:16,219
  6181. Wendy's bacon
  6182. double cheeseburger,
  6183. government program.
  6184.  
  6185. 1296
  6186. 00:54:17,687 --> 00:54:21,191
  6187. The steak fajita at Dunkin'
  6188. Donuts, government program.
  6189.  
  6190. 1297
  6191. 00:54:21,191 --> 00:54:23,827
  6192. You would just never think
  6193. that this just pure garbage
  6194.  
  6195. 1298
  6196. 00:54:23,827 --> 00:54:26,529
  6197. from a food standpoint is coming
  6198.  
  6199. 1299
  6200. 00:54:26,529 --> 00:54:28,665
  6201. from a federally funded program.
  6202.  
  6203. 1300
  6204. 00:54:28,665 --> 00:54:30,233
  6205. That's one of the things
  6206. that makes checkoffs
  6207.  
  6208. 1301
  6209. 00:54:30,233 --> 00:54:33,837
  6210. so incredibly creepy is
  6211. that it is our government
  6212.  
  6213. 1302
  6214. 00:54:33,837 --> 00:54:36,539
  6215. telling us, "Eat more
  6216. beef, drink more milk,
  6217.  
  6218. 1303
  6219. 00:54:36,539 --> 00:54:38,908
  6220. "eat more cheese,
  6221. eat more pork."
  6222.  
  6223. 1304
  6224. 00:54:38,908 --> 00:54:40,944
  6225. One of the very effective
  6226. ways that the dairy industry
  6227.  
  6228. 1305
  6229. 00:54:40,944 --> 00:54:44,447
  6230. promotes its products
  6231. is to reach children
  6232.  
  6233. 1306
  6234. 00:54:45,315 --> 00:54:47,617
  6235. because kids are impressionable,
  6236.  
  6237. 1307
  6238. 00:54:47,617 --> 00:54:50,020
  6239. they're gonna be consumers
  6240. for their entire lives,
  6241.  
  6242. 1308
  6243. 00:54:50,020 --> 00:54:51,955
  6244. and you might as well get
  6245. 'em while they're young.
  6246.  
  6247. 1309
  6248. 00:54:51,955 --> 00:54:54,424
  6249. So, dairy spends at
  6250. least 50 million dollars
  6251.  
  6252. 1310
  6253. 00:54:54,424 --> 00:54:57,060
  6254. promoting it's products
  6255. in public schools
  6256.  
  6257. 1311
  6258. 00:54:57,060 --> 00:54:59,462
  6259. throughout the
  6260. country with posters
  6261.  
  6262. 1312
  6263. 00:54:59,462 --> 00:55:01,598
  6264. with people with milk mustaches
  6265.  
  6266. 1313
  6267. 00:55:01,598 --> 00:55:05,001
  6268. and messages like, "Milk,
  6269. it does the body good,"
  6270.  
  6271. 1314
  6272. 00:55:05,001 --> 00:55:06,503
  6273. or "Milk life".
  6274.  
  6275. 1315
  6276. 00:55:06,503 --> 00:55:08,872
  6277. - Targeting young people
  6278. like the tobacco industry
  6279.  
  6280. 1316
  6281. 00:55:08,872 --> 00:55:11,107
  6282. had to keep replacing the
  6283. customers who are dying
  6284.  
  6285. 1317
  6286. 00:55:11,107 --> 00:55:13,109
  6287. with new customers.
  6288.  
  6289. 1318
  6290. 00:55:13,109 --> 00:55:15,612
  6291. Meat industry knows they
  6292. have to target young people,
  6293.  
  6294. 1319
  6295. 00:55:15,612 --> 00:55:17,981
  6296. that's why we have
  6297. these foods in schools
  6298.  
  6299. 1320
  6300. 00:55:17,981 --> 00:55:20,150
  6301. and marketing messages at
  6302. a younger and younger age
  6303.  
  6304. 1321
  6305. 00:55:20,150 --> 00:55:22,852
  6306. for kids to get hooked on
  6307. all the wrong kinds of foods.
  6308.  
  6309. 1322
  6310. 00:55:22,852 --> 00:55:25,221
  6311. So, there's all
  6312. kinds of parallels.
  6313.  
  6314. 1323
  6315. 00:55:25,221 --> 00:55:27,457
  6316. - School districts
  6317. where processed meats
  6318.  
  6319. 1324
  6320. 00:55:27,457 --> 00:55:28,692
  6321. are all over the place.
  6322.  
  6323. 1325
  6324. 00:55:28,692 --> 00:55:29,959
  6325. Maybe it's gonna be
  6326. bacon on the menu,
  6327.  
  6328. 1326
  6329. 00:55:29,959 --> 00:55:32,929
  6330. sausage, hotdogs,
  6331. or pepperoni pizza.
  6332.  
  6333. 1327
  6334. 00:55:32,929 --> 00:55:34,397
  6335. Any of those things
  6336. are processed meats
  6337.  
  6338. 1328
  6339. 00:55:34,397 --> 00:55:36,700
  6340. and those are pretty much
  6341. the worst of the worst
  6342.  
  6343. 1329
  6344. 00:55:36,700 --> 00:55:38,835
  6345. with a direct link
  6346. to colon cancer
  6347.  
  6348. 1330
  6349. 00:55:38,835 --> 00:55:41,071
  6350. and yet you have
  6351. everyday in schools,
  6352.  
  6353. 1331
  6354. 00:55:41,071 --> 00:55:43,239
  6355. meal items with processed meats.
  6356.  
  6357. 1332
  6358. 00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:44,774
  6359. - [Kip] If the surgeon
  6360. general puts label warnings
  6361.  
  6362. 1333
  6363. 00:55:44,774 --> 00:55:47,343
  6364. on tobacco because
  6365. of their cancer risk,
  6366.  
  6367. 1334
  6368. 00:55:47,343 --> 00:55:50,613
  6369. why aren't same
  6370. warning labels on meat?
  6371.  
  6372. 1335
  6373. 00:55:51,681 --> 00:55:53,450
  6374. - Based on the publicly
  6375. available data,
  6376.  
  6377. 1336
  6378. 00:55:53,450 --> 00:55:56,486
  6379. we know they spend at
  6380. least 557 million dollars
  6381.  
  6382. 1337
  6383. 00:55:56,486 --> 00:55:59,089
  6384. promoting their goods
  6385. through checkoff programs.
  6386.  
  6387. 1338
  6388. 00:55:59,089 --> 00:56:01,758
  6389. We know that they spend at
  6390. least 138 million dollars
  6391.  
  6392. 1339
  6393. 00:56:01,758 --> 00:56:03,393
  6394. lobbying congress.
  6395.  
  6396. 1340
  6397. 00:56:03,393 --> 00:56:05,695
  6398. We expect that they spend
  6399. a good deal more than that
  6400.  
  6401. 1341
  6402. 00:56:05,695 --> 00:56:08,531
  6403. in figures that simply
  6404. aren't publicly disclosed.
  6405.  
  6406. 1342
  6407. 00:56:08,531 --> 00:56:10,366
  6408. - [Kip] The industry's
  6409. lobbying power is so strong
  6410.  
  6411. 1343
  6412. 00:56:10,366 --> 00:56:12,602
  6413. that they can create laws
  6414. and push through legislation
  6415.  
  6416. 1344
  6417. 00:56:12,602 --> 00:56:15,071
  6418. that doesn't benefit
  6419. Americans in any way
  6420.  
  6421. 1345
  6422. 00:56:15,071 --> 00:56:17,707
  6423. such as Ag-gag laws that
  6424. criminalize whistle-blowing
  6425.  
  6426. 1346
  6427. 00:56:17,707 --> 00:56:20,243
  6428. or photographing abuses
  6429. by this industry.
  6430.  
  6431. 1347
  6432. 00:56:20,243 --> 00:56:22,145
  6433. Activists in the US can
  6434. be charged as terrorist
  6435.  
  6436. 1348
  6437. 00:56:22,145 --> 00:56:24,380
  6438. for disrupting the
  6439. profits of any business
  6440.  
  6441. 1349
  6442. 00:56:24,380 --> 00:56:27,584
  6443. that uses animals under the
  6444. Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act
  6445.  
  6446. 1350
  6447. 00:56:27,584 --> 00:56:32,222
  6448. to the even more ridiculous
  6449. ones like Cheeseburger Laws.
  6450.  
  6451. 1351
  6452. 00:56:32,222 --> 00:56:33,823
  6453. - A Cheeseburger Law
  6454. is a law that states
  6455.  
  6456. 1352
  6457. 00:56:33,823 --> 00:56:35,892
  6458. a plaintiff cannot
  6459. recover against
  6460.  
  6461. 1353
  6462. 00:56:35,892 --> 00:56:37,961
  6463. a manufacturer,
  6464. distributor, retailer
  6465.  
  6466. 1354
  6467. 00:56:37,961 --> 00:56:41,965
  6468. on the theory that the food
  6469. made the plaintiff obese
  6470.  
  6471. 1355
  6472. 00:56:41,965 --> 00:56:44,934
  6473. or caused an
  6474. obesity-related disease.
  6475.  
  6476. 1356
  6477. 00:56:44,934 --> 00:56:47,303
  6478. - Cheeseburger Law
  6479. is a direct response
  6480.  
  6481. 1357
  6482. 00:56:47,303 --> 00:56:51,007
  6483. to a problem that the
  6484. tobacco industry has had.
  6485.  
  6486. 1358
  6487. 00:56:51,007 --> 00:56:53,510
  6488. Big tobacco has paid
  6489. 400 billion dollars
  6490.  
  6491. 1359
  6492. 00:56:53,510 --> 00:56:55,378
  6493. to state medicated programs.
  6494.  
  6495. 1360
  6496. 00:56:55,378 --> 00:56:57,347
  6497. Cheeseburger Law,
  6498. it's proponent say,
  6499.  
  6500. 1361
  6501. 00:56:57,347 --> 00:56:59,783
  6502. "We don't wanna see the
  6503. same kind of thing happen
  6504.  
  6505. 1362
  6506. 00:56:59,783 --> 00:57:01,651
  6507. "to the meat and
  6508. dairy industries."
  6509.  
  6510. 1363
  6511. 00:57:01,651 --> 00:57:04,087
  6512. The fact that these laws are
  6513. based on a model template
  6514.  
  6515. 1364
  6516. 00:57:04,087 --> 00:57:07,624
  6517. called the Commonsense
  6518. Consumption Act
  6519. is actually ironic
  6520.  
  6521. 1365
  6522. 00:57:07,624 --> 00:57:09,092
  6523. because what they're saying is,
  6524.  
  6525. 1366
  6526. 00:57:09,092 --> 00:57:11,294
  6527. you the consumer should
  6528. have a commonsense
  6529.  
  6530. 1367
  6531. 00:57:11,294 --> 00:57:13,963
  6532. to know that our
  6533. food is bad for you.
  6534.  
  6535. 1368
  6536. 00:57:13,963 --> 00:57:17,167
  6537. - I've often typify the
  6538. meat industry to people
  6539.  
  6540. 1369
  6541. 00:57:17,167 --> 00:57:20,537
  6542. who maybe don't understand
  6543. its power and reach
  6544.  
  6545. 1370
  6546. 00:57:20,537 --> 00:57:24,507
  6547. as it's got all the money of
  6548. big tobacco and big pharma
  6549.  
  6550. 1371
  6551. 00:57:24,507 --> 00:57:28,511
  6552. and has the personality of the
  6553. National Rifle Association.
  6554.  
  6555. 1372
  6556. 00:57:28,511 --> 00:57:31,214
  6557. So, any little
  6558. thing that comes up,
  6559.  
  6560. 1373
  6561. 00:57:31,214 --> 00:57:34,217
  6562. man, they beat it to death.
  6563.  
  6564. 1374
  6565. 00:57:34,217 --> 00:57:35,852
  6566. - [Kip] Robert Martin
  6567. wasn't exaggerating.
  6568.  
  6569. 1375
  6570. 00:57:35,852 --> 00:57:38,054
  6571. When the profits of the ag
  6572. industry were threatened
  6573.  
  6574. 1376
  6575. 00:57:38,054 --> 00:57:40,623
  6576. by ag alternative company,
  6577. Hampton Creek Foods,
  6578.  
  6579. 1377
  6580. 00:57:40,623 --> 00:57:43,092
  6581. extremely disturbing
  6582. emails were uncovered
  6583.  
  6584. 1378
  6585. 00:57:43,092 --> 00:57:45,228
  6586. by Ryan Shapiro
  6587. and Jeffrey Light.
  6588.  
  6589. 1379
  6590. 00:57:45,228 --> 00:57:47,931
  6591. - We uncovered documents
  6592. demonstrating the
  6593. American Ag Port
  6594.  
  6595. 1380
  6596. 00:57:47,931 --> 00:57:51,901
  6597. considers Hampton Creek, quote,
  6598. a crisis and a major threat
  6599.  
  6600. 1381
  6601. 00:57:51,901 --> 00:57:54,270
  6602. to the future of the
  6603. American ag industry.
  6604.  
  6605. 1382
  6606. 00:57:54,270 --> 00:57:55,738
  6607. The American Ag Board considers
  6608.  
  6609. 1383
  6610. 00:57:55,738 --> 00:57:58,675
  6611. a successful ag replacer
  6612. company to be such a threat
  6613.  
  6614. 1384
  6615. 00:57:58,675 --> 00:58:01,644
  6616. that they joke under
  6617. government email addresses
  6618.  
  6619. 1385
  6620. 00:58:01,644 --> 00:58:04,047
  6621. about murdering the CEO.
  6622.  
  6623. 1386
  6624. 00:58:04,047 --> 00:58:05,515
  6625. - [Kip] In internal
  6626. government emails
  6627.  
  6628. 1387
  6629. 00:58:05,515 --> 00:58:07,283
  6630. with the heads of
  6631. the ag industry,
  6632.  
  6633. 1388
  6634. 00:58:07,283 --> 00:58:09,819
  6635. they suggest having the
  6636. CEO of Hampton Creek,
  6637.  
  6638. 1389
  6639. 00:58:09,819 --> 00:58:12,455
  6640. Josh Tetric, murdered,
  6641.  
  6642. 1390
  6643. 00:58:12,455 --> 00:58:14,791
  6644. including a menacing email
  6645. from executive director
  6646.  
  6647. 1391
  6648. 00:58:14,791 --> 00:58:16,893
  6649. of the American Ag Board.
  6650.  
  6651. 1392
  6652. 00:58:21,731 --> 00:58:25,501
  6653. - The meat producers don't have
  6654. to pay for the heart disease
  6655.  
  6656. 1393
  6657. 00:58:25,501 --> 00:58:27,704
  6658. and the environmental
  6659. destruction
  6660.  
  6661. 1394
  6662. 00:58:27,704 --> 00:58:32,175
  6663. or any of the other
  6664. externalities as
  6665. economists call them
  6666.  
  6667. 1395
  6668. 00:58:32,175 --> 00:58:34,978
  6669. that their products cause.
  6670.  
  6671. 1396
  6672. 00:58:34,978 --> 00:58:36,212
  6673. - You know, then
  6674. there's the whole
  6675.  
  6676. 1397
  6677. 00:58:36,212 --> 00:58:37,747
  6678. pharmaceutical aspect of it
  6679.  
  6680. 1398
  6681. 00:58:37,747 --> 00:58:39,048
  6682. and the fact that
  6683. there's a very strong
  6684.  
  6685. 1399
  6686. 00:58:39,048 --> 00:58:40,850
  6687. pharmaceutical industry in lobby
  6688.  
  6689. 1400
  6690. 00:58:40,850 --> 00:58:44,120
  6691. that has a huge stake at
  6692. preserving the status quo.
  6693.  
  6694. 1401
  6695. 00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,923
  6696. - These chronic diseases,
  6697. these are the cash cows
  6698.  
  6699. 1402
  6700. 00:58:46,923 --> 00:58:48,491
  6701. of the pharmaceutical industry.
  6702.  
  6703. 1403
  6704. 00:58:48,491 --> 00:58:51,094
  6705. - We have a five billion
  6706. dollar stent industry.
  6707.  
  6708. 1404
  6709. 00:58:51,094 --> 00:58:52,762
  6710. Do they ever wanna
  6711. see that go away?
  6712.  
  6713. 1405
  6714. 00:58:52,762 --> 00:58:55,732
  6715. We've had 35 billion dollar
  6716. statin drug industry.
  6717.  
  6718. 1406
  6719. 00:58:55,732 --> 00:58:57,300
  6720. Do they ever wanna
  6721. see that go away?
  6722.  
  6723. 1407
  6724. 00:58:57,300 --> 00:58:58,701
  6725. - I'm talking about the
  6726. pharmaceutical industry
  6727.  
  6728. 1408
  6729. 00:58:58,701 --> 00:59:01,771
  6730. effectively controls
  6731. what doctors are told.
  6732.  
  6733. 1409
  6734. 00:59:01,771 --> 00:59:03,840
  6735. - Most research isn't
  6736. put into prevention,
  6737.  
  6738. 1410
  6739. 00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:05,875
  6740. it's put into the medication
  6741.  
  6742. 1411
  6743. 00:59:05,875 --> 00:59:09,145
  6744. that we might use for
  6745. that particular disease.
  6746.  
  6747. 1412
  6748. 00:59:09,145 --> 00:59:12,849
  6749. - I'm on two different high
  6750. blood pressure medicines,
  6751.  
  6752. 1413
  6753. 00:59:12,849 --> 00:59:17,020
  6754. six asthma-type medicines,
  6755. even after four years of shots,
  6756.  
  6757. 1414
  6758. 00:59:18,922 --> 00:59:21,758
  6759. and then another medicine to
  6760. help take care of side effects
  6761.  
  6762. 1415
  6763. 00:59:21,758 --> 00:59:23,559
  6764. from some of those medicines.
  6765.  
  6766. 1416
  6767. 00:59:23,559 --> 00:59:26,396
  6768. I'm on high level
  6769. antidepressants,
  6770.  
  6771. 1417
  6772. 00:59:27,864 --> 00:59:31,534
  6773. a couple of different pain
  6774. meds for my back and hips.
  6775.  
  6776. 1418
  6777. 00:59:31,534 --> 00:59:34,237
  6778. - I'm taking about 16 drugs
  6779.  
  6780. 1419
  6781. 00:59:34,237 --> 00:59:36,506
  6782. not counting the
  6783. insulin in the morning.
  6784.  
  6785. 1420
  6786. 00:59:36,506 --> 00:59:39,509
  6787. I take insulin morning,
  6788. insulin at night,
  6789.  
  6790. 1421
  6791. 00:59:39,509 --> 00:59:42,111
  6792. like 32 to 34 units of insulin.
  6793.  
  6794. 1422
  6795. 00:59:44,247 --> 00:59:46,082
  6796. Lantus to be exact.
  6797.  
  6798. 1423
  6799. 00:59:46,082 --> 00:59:49,452
  6800. Some of these meds
  6801. are for diabetes.
  6802.  
  6803. 1424
  6804. 00:59:49,452 --> 00:59:53,489
  6805. This is for pN, I have to
  6806. use this for my prostate,
  6807.  
  6808. 1425
  6809. 00:59:53,489 --> 00:59:55,925
  6810. and then I have to
  6811. use this for the heart
  6812.  
  6813. 1426
  6814. 00:59:55,925 --> 00:59:58,494
  6815. and I have to use this
  6816. for blood pressure.
  6817.  
  6818. 1427
  6819. 00:59:58,494 --> 01:00:01,664
  6820. And it's just on and
  6821. on and on and on.
  6822.  
  6823. 1428
  6824. 01:00:03,099 --> 01:00:04,867
  6825. The doctors are telling
  6826. me this is what I gotta do
  6827.  
  6828. 1429
  6829. 01:00:04,867 --> 01:00:06,970
  6830. for my whole life
  6831. and it's frustrating,
  6832.  
  6833. 1430
  6834. 01:00:06,970 --> 01:00:09,238
  6835. and it's very stressful.
  6836.  
  6837. 1431
  6838. 01:00:09,238 --> 01:00:11,474
  6839. I don't know how long
  6840. my liver is gonna last
  6841.  
  6842. 1432
  6843. 01:00:11,474 --> 01:00:13,142
  6844. taking all these stuff.
  6845.  
  6846. 1433
  6847. 01:00:13,142 --> 01:00:14,477
  6848. - Under conventional
  6849. medical treatment,
  6850.  
  6851. 1434
  6852. 01:00:14,477 --> 01:00:16,012
  6853. whether it be for
  6854. autoimmune disease,
  6855.  
  6856. 1435
  6857. 01:00:16,012 --> 01:00:19,382
  6858. or even conditions like high
  6859. blood pressure or diabetes,
  6860.  
  6861. 1436
  6862. 01:00:19,382 --> 01:00:22,218
  6863. you're told the you
  6864. have to take drugs
  6865.  
  6866. 1437
  6867. 01:00:22,218 --> 01:00:25,054
  6868. and not just for a week
  6869. or a month or a year,
  6870.  
  6871. 1438
  6872. 01:00:25,054 --> 01:00:27,824
  6873. you're told that you have
  6874. to take drugs forever.
  6875.  
  6876. 1439
  6877. 01:00:27,824 --> 01:00:30,593
  6878. You're guaranteed that if you
  6879. follow your doctor's advice,
  6880.  
  6881. 1440
  6882. 01:00:30,593 --> 01:00:34,364
  6883. you'll be sick forever,
  6884. you'll never get well.
  6885.  
  6886. 1441
  6887. 01:00:34,364 --> 01:00:36,232
  6888. That's the guarantee.
  6889.  
  6890. 1442
  6891. 01:00:36,232 --> 01:00:39,469
  6892. Because the strategies
  6893. are all about manipulating
  6894.  
  6895. 1443
  6896. 01:00:39,469 --> 01:00:42,205
  6897. the symptoms, not dealing
  6898. with the underlying cause.
  6899.  
  6900. 1444
  6901. 01:00:42,205 --> 01:00:43,506
  6902. - You'll come in
  6903. with that diagnosis.
  6904.  
  6905. 1445
  6906. 01:00:43,506 --> 01:00:45,441
  6907. You get a bunch of pills
  6908. that have nothing to do
  6909.  
  6910. 1446
  6911. 01:00:45,441 --> 01:00:48,211
  6912. with the disease causation
  6913. or you get this procedures
  6914.  
  6915. 1447
  6916. 01:00:48,211 --> 01:00:50,913
  6917. that have nothing to do
  6918. with disease causation.
  6919.  
  6920. 1448
  6921. 01:00:50,913 --> 01:00:52,181
  6922. - It's a deception to say,
  6923.  
  6924. 1449
  6925. 01:00:52,181 --> 01:00:54,584
  6926. "This pill will help you
  6927. unclog your arteries.
  6928.  
  6929. 1450
  6930. 01:00:54,584 --> 01:00:56,252
  6931. "This one will save
  6932. you from stroke."
  6933.  
  6934. 1451
  6935. 01:00:56,252 --> 01:00:57,487
  6936. No, it doesn't.
  6937.  
  6938. 1452
  6939. 01:00:57,487 --> 01:00:58,888
  6940. The people who take
  6941. the statins, et cetera,
  6942.  
  6943. 1453
  6944. 01:00:58,888 --> 01:01:00,390
  6945. they still get
  6946. their heart attacks,
  6947.  
  6948. 1454
  6949. 01:01:00,390 --> 01:01:01,624
  6950. they still get their strokes,
  6951.  
  6952. 1455
  6953. 01:01:01,624 --> 01:01:03,059
  6954. this is not reversed disease,
  6955.  
  6956. 1456
  6957. 01:01:03,059 --> 01:01:05,061
  6958. this does not make
  6959. plaque smaller.
  6960.  
  6961. 1457
  6962. 01:01:05,061 --> 01:01:07,764
  6963. This is a fun of
  6964. massive proportions.
  6965.  
  6966. 1458
  6967. 01:01:07,764 --> 01:01:09,432
  6968. - [Kip] In the US,
  6969. treating chronic these
  6970.  
  6971. 1459
  6972. 01:01:09,432 --> 01:01:11,701
  6973. such as heart disease,
  6974. cancer, and diabetes
  6975.  
  6976. 1460
  6977. 01:01:11,701 --> 01:01:15,304
  6978. is a 1.5 trillion
  6979. dollar industry.
  6980.  
  6981. 1461
  6982. 01:01:15,304 --> 01:01:16,906
  6983. That's the GDP equivalent
  6984.  
  6985. 1462
  6986. 01:01:16,906 --> 01:01:20,043
  6987. of the 10th richest
  6988. country in the world.
  6989.  
  6990. 1463
  6991. 01:01:20,043 --> 01:01:21,210
  6992. I went back and dug deeper
  6993.  
  6994. 1464
  6995. 01:01:21,210 --> 01:01:23,179
  6996. into the health
  6997. organizations funding
  6998.  
  6999. 1465
  7000. 01:01:23,179 --> 01:01:25,448
  7001. and there it was again.
  7002.  
  7003. 1466
  7004. 01:01:25,448 --> 01:01:27,717
  7005. These organizations were
  7006. accepting millions of dollars
  7007.  
  7008. 1467
  7009. 01:01:27,717 --> 01:01:29,385
  7010. from pharmaceutical companies
  7011.  
  7012. 1468
  7013. 01:01:29,385 --> 01:01:31,020
  7014. that are making
  7015. billions of dollars
  7016.  
  7017. 1469
  7018. 01:01:31,020 --> 01:01:33,089
  7019. from the very same diseases
  7020. these health groups
  7021.  
  7022. 1470
  7023. 01:01:33,089 --> 01:01:35,324
  7024. are supposedly trying to end.
  7025.  
  7026. 1471
  7027. 01:01:35,324 --> 01:01:37,593
  7028. It seemed like a major
  7029. conflict of interest
  7030.  
  7031. 1472
  7032. 01:01:37,593 --> 01:01:40,863
  7033. unless ending these diseases
  7034. isn't really the goal.
  7035.  
  7036. 1473
  7037. 01:01:40,863 --> 01:01:42,665
  7038. The pharmaceutical
  7039. industry spends more money
  7040.  
  7041. 1474
  7042. 01:01:42,665 --> 01:01:45,301
  7043. on lobbying than any
  7044. other single industry.
  7045.  
  7046. 1475
  7047. 01:01:45,301 --> 01:01:47,470
  7048. Just like animal agriculture,
  7049. they are so powerful,
  7050.  
  7051. 1476
  7052. 01:01:47,470 --> 01:01:48,971
  7053. they write their own laws
  7054.  
  7055. 1477
  7056. 01:01:48,971 --> 01:01:51,207
  7057. that have had activists
  7058. imprisoned to silence them.
  7059.  
  7060. 1478
  7061. 01:01:51,207 --> 01:01:54,077
  7062. - Government's embed with
  7063. anyone that goes in the money.
  7064.  
  7065. 1479
  7066. 01:01:54,077 --> 01:01:55,411
  7067. Just pharmaceutical industry
  7068.  
  7069. 1480
  7070. 01:01:55,411 --> 01:01:57,747
  7071. which is the animal
  7072. ag industries.
  7073.  
  7074. 1481
  7075. 01:01:57,747 --> 01:02:00,583
  7076. They are pumping the government
  7077. full of money and resources
  7078.  
  7079. 1482
  7080. 01:02:00,583 --> 01:02:02,652
  7081. and in return, the governments
  7082. giving them what they want,
  7083.  
  7084. 1483
  7085. 01:02:02,652 --> 01:02:06,355
  7086. subsidies, imprisoning
  7087. activists that go against them,
  7088.  
  7089. 1484
  7090. 01:02:06,355 --> 01:02:08,357
  7091. and I think it's quite
  7092. telling that these industries
  7093.  
  7094. 1485
  7095. 01:02:08,357 --> 01:02:11,794
  7096. are working so hard in
  7097. spending so much money
  7098.  
  7099. 1486
  7100. 01:02:11,794 --> 01:02:14,797
  7101. to criminalize people for
  7102. simply taking a picture,
  7103.  
  7104. 1487
  7105. 01:02:14,797 --> 01:02:16,899
  7106. for simply recording
  7107. what's going on inside
  7108.  
  7109. 1488
  7110. 01:02:16,899 --> 01:02:20,036
  7111. of these facilities and
  7112. making it known to the public.
  7113.  
  7114. 1489
  7115. 01:02:20,036 --> 01:02:21,404
  7116. They're behind walls.
  7117.  
  7118. 1490
  7119. 01:02:21,404 --> 01:02:22,972
  7120. They're underground.
  7121.  
  7122. 1491
  7123. 01:02:22,972 --> 01:02:25,341
  7124. They're in these
  7125. secret facilities that
  7126. no one knows about
  7127.  
  7128. 1492
  7129. 01:02:25,341 --> 01:02:27,210
  7130. but if they did, they would
  7131. be shocked and outraged
  7132.  
  7133. 1493
  7134. 01:02:27,210 --> 01:02:29,212
  7135. and I think people
  7136. would not want to think
  7137.  
  7138. 1494
  7139. 01:02:29,212 --> 01:02:31,914
  7140. that their pharmaceuticals,
  7141. that their food
  7142.  
  7143. 1495
  7144. 01:02:31,914 --> 01:02:33,549
  7145. are coming from these places
  7146.  
  7147. 1496
  7148. 01:02:33,549 --> 01:02:35,151
  7149. and that's why, I
  7150. think, it's such...
  7151.  
  7152. 1497
  7153. 01:02:35,151 --> 01:02:36,819
  7154. The Ag-gag laws
  7155. are what they are
  7156.  
  7157. 1498
  7158. 01:02:36,819 --> 01:02:39,188
  7159. is because they are
  7160. trying to silence people
  7161.  
  7162. 1499
  7163. 01:02:39,188 --> 01:02:41,824
  7164. into not speaking out and
  7165. not showing the truth.
  7166.  
  7167. 1500
  7168. 01:02:41,824 --> 01:02:43,559
  7169. - [Kip] I finally realized
  7170. how deep the occlusion
  7171.  
  7172. 1501
  7173. 01:02:43,559 --> 01:02:46,429
  7174. truly is between government
  7175. and these industries
  7176.  
  7177. 1502
  7178. 01:02:46,429 --> 01:02:48,664
  7179. and how dangerous it
  7180. could be to expose them.
  7181.  
  7182. 1503
  7183. 01:02:48,664 --> 01:02:50,600
  7184. These concerns
  7185. intensified after meeting
  7186.  
  7187. 1504
  7188. 01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:53,469
  7189. the USDA whistleblower who
  7190. revealed mad cow disease
  7191.  
  7192. 1505
  7193. 01:02:53,469 --> 01:02:54,904
  7194. in the US meat supplier.
  7195.  
  7196. 1506
  7197. 01:02:54,904 --> 01:02:56,172
  7198. - [Mad Cow Disease
  7199. Whistleblower] USDA operates
  7200.  
  7201. 1507
  7202. 01:02:56,172 --> 01:02:57,940
  7203. like the military
  7204. so when I got on TV,
  7205.  
  7206. 1508
  7207. 01:02:57,940 --> 01:03:00,009
  7208. right away you see set of memos
  7209.  
  7210. 1509
  7211. 01:03:00,009 --> 01:03:02,111
  7212. to all the veterinarians
  7213. and food inspectors.
  7214.  
  7215. 1510
  7216. 01:03:02,111 --> 01:03:04,514
  7217. "If anybody from the
  7218. media ever contacts you,
  7219.  
  7220. 1511
  7221. 01:03:04,514 --> 01:03:08,151
  7222. "do not talk to them,
  7223. refer to Washington, DC
  7224.  
  7225. 1512
  7226. 01:03:08,151 --> 01:03:10,319
  7227. "and we will talk to them."
  7228.  
  7229. 1513
  7230. 01:03:10,319 --> 01:03:12,054
  7231. So, right away
  7232. shut up everybody.
  7233.  
  7234. 1514
  7235. 01:03:12,054 --> 01:03:15,391
  7236. The American public are very,
  7237. very concerned about this,
  7238.  
  7239. 1515
  7240. 01:03:15,391 --> 01:03:16,993
  7241. what's going on with the USDA.
  7242.  
  7243. 1516
  7244. 01:03:16,993 --> 01:03:18,327
  7245. Here in the United States,
  7246.  
  7247. 1517
  7248. 01:03:18,327 --> 01:03:21,297
  7249. we have at least four
  7250. cases of mad cow disease
  7251.  
  7252. 1518
  7253. 01:03:21,297 --> 01:03:23,799
  7254. but I'm almost positive
  7255. there's more cases of that
  7256.  
  7257. 1519
  7258. 01:03:23,799 --> 01:03:25,668
  7259. that the government
  7260. is looking for.
  7261.  
  7262. 1520
  7263. 01:03:25,668 --> 01:03:26,969
  7264. - [Kip] So, what you're
  7265. saying is that there could be
  7266.  
  7267. 1521
  7268. 01:03:26,969 --> 01:03:29,405
  7269. already mad cow
  7270. disease in humans?
  7271.  
  7272. 1522
  7273. 01:03:29,405 --> 01:03:32,074
  7274. - Right, and I think a lot
  7275. of it was misdiagnosed.
  7276.  
  7277. 1523
  7278. 01:03:32,074 --> 01:03:33,776
  7279. The Alzheimer's or dementia
  7280.  
  7281. 1524
  7282. 01:03:33,776 --> 01:03:36,312
  7283. that takes several years
  7284. to see the progression
  7285.  
  7286. 1525
  7287. 01:03:36,312 --> 01:03:37,847
  7288. but to make it easier,
  7289.  
  7290. 1526
  7291. 01:03:37,847 --> 01:03:40,149
  7292. these doctors just sign off on
  7293. it as dementia or Alzheimer's
  7294.  
  7295. 1527
  7296. 01:03:40,149 --> 01:03:41,751
  7297. while they should've
  7298. taken a biopsy
  7299.  
  7300. 1528
  7301. 01:03:41,751 --> 01:03:43,352
  7302. of the brain to see if it's that
  7303.  
  7304. 1529
  7305. 01:03:43,352 --> 01:03:45,755
  7306. or is it actually
  7307. a prion disease
  7308.  
  7309. 1530
  7310. 01:03:45,755 --> 01:03:48,958
  7311. like Creutzfeldt-Jakob
  7312. disease or mad cow disease.
  7313.  
  7314. 1531
  7315. 01:03:48,958 --> 01:03:51,294
  7316. - [Kip] Do you think
  7317. it's safe to eat meat?
  7318.  
  7319. 1532
  7320. 01:03:51,294 --> 01:03:53,596
  7321. - I personally don't
  7322. think it's safe to eat it
  7323.  
  7324. 1533
  7325. 01:03:53,596 --> 01:03:56,566
  7326. because of the fact how the
  7327. line speeds are increasing
  7328.  
  7329. 1534
  7330. 01:03:56,566 --> 01:03:59,635
  7331. and also our inspectors are
  7332. not well-trained enough.
  7333.  
  7334. 1535
  7335. 01:03:59,635 --> 01:04:01,571
  7336. At the present time,
  7337. the ones we know
  7338.  
  7339. 1536
  7340. 01:04:01,571 --> 01:04:04,106
  7341. is going about 220 cows an hour.
  7342.  
  7343. 1537
  7344. 01:04:04,106 --> 01:04:07,009
  7345. That gives you about, somewhere
  7346. around four cows per minute
  7347.  
  7348. 1538
  7349. 01:04:07,009 --> 01:04:09,412
  7350. so that's 15 seconds per cow.
  7351.  
  7352. 1539
  7353. 01:04:10,613 --> 01:04:11,914
  7354. - [Kip] This dangerous
  7355. slaughter speeds means
  7356.  
  7357. 1540
  7358. 01:04:11,914 --> 01:04:14,584
  7359. that animal waste
  7360. ends up everywhere.
  7361.  
  7362. 1541
  7363. 01:04:14,584 --> 01:04:16,686
  7364. Testing shows 88% of pork chops
  7365.  
  7366. 1542
  7367. 01:04:16,686 --> 01:04:19,055
  7368. are contaminated
  7369. with fecal bacteria.
  7370.  
  7371. 1543
  7372. 01:04:19,055 --> 01:04:22,491
  7373. 90% of ground beef and 95%
  7374. of chicken breasts sample
  7375.  
  7376. 1544
  7377. 01:04:22,491 --> 01:04:24,827
  7378. contain animal waste bacteria.
  7379.  
  7380. 1545
  7381. 01:04:24,827 --> 01:04:28,064
  7382. There is nothing clean
  7383. about eating this way
  7384.  
  7385. 1546
  7386. 01:04:28,064 --> 01:04:32,301
  7387. but it just isn't waste, it's
  7388. also pus-filled infections.
  7389.  
  7390. 1547
  7391. 01:04:32,301 --> 01:04:33,803
  7392. - [Mad Cow Disease
  7393. Whistleblower] You can see
  7394.  
  7395. 1548
  7396. 01:04:33,803 --> 01:04:36,505
  7397. there's a bump or some kind
  7398. of abcess underneath the hind.
  7399.  
  7400. 1549
  7401. 01:04:36,505 --> 01:04:38,608
  7402. Most of the time, when
  7403. the hind's pulled off,
  7404.  
  7405. 1550
  7406. 01:04:38,608 --> 01:04:41,244
  7407. either that will
  7408. open up the abcess
  7409.  
  7410. 1551
  7411. 01:04:41,244 --> 01:04:42,712
  7412. and the pus will come out
  7413.  
  7414. 1552
  7415. 01:04:42,712 --> 01:04:44,981
  7416. or if it's deep-seated
  7417. when the inspectors
  7418.  
  7419. 1553
  7420. 01:04:44,981 --> 01:04:47,350
  7421. are doing their work
  7422. or company employees,
  7423.  
  7424. 1554
  7425. 01:04:47,350 --> 01:04:49,819
  7426. they might stick their
  7427. knife into an abcess
  7428.  
  7429. 1555
  7430. 01:04:49,819 --> 01:04:53,222
  7431. and that explodes
  7432. all over the place.
  7433.  
  7434. 1556
  7435. 01:04:53,222 --> 01:04:54,390
  7436. - [Kip] I had heard enough.
  7437.  
  7438. 1557
  7439. 01:04:54,390 --> 01:04:56,325
  7440. I was utterly disgusted
  7441. by the corruption,
  7442.  
  7443. 1558
  7444. 01:04:56,325 --> 01:04:59,895
  7445. the greed, the disease, and
  7446. the abuse I was learning about.
  7447.  
  7448. 1559
  7449. 01:04:59,895 --> 01:05:01,797
  7450. The very animals we are killing
  7451.  
  7452. 1560
  7453. 01:05:01,797 --> 01:05:03,733
  7454. were killing us in the planet
  7455.  
  7456. 1561
  7457. 01:05:03,733 --> 01:05:05,968
  7458. but so many people
  7459. are even eating dairy
  7460.  
  7461. 1562
  7462. 01:05:05,968 --> 01:05:07,503
  7463. every day of their lives.
  7464.  
  7465. 1563
  7466. 01:05:07,503 --> 01:05:10,239
  7467. And we are so concerned
  7468. about getting enough protein.
  7469.  
  7470. 1564
  7471. 01:05:10,239 --> 01:05:12,875
  7472. Do we have to eat meat
  7473. to get complete protein?
  7474.  
  7475. 1565
  7476. 01:05:12,875 --> 01:05:15,478
  7477. - Oh my god, oh my god.
  7478.  
  7479. 1566
  7480. 01:05:15,478 --> 01:05:17,980
  7481. You want me to jump of
  7482. this building, don't you?
  7483.  
  7484. 1567
  7485. 01:05:17,980 --> 01:05:22,585
  7486. Well, first of all, all
  7487. protein is made by plants.
  7488.  
  7489. 1568
  7490. 01:05:22,585 --> 01:05:24,487
  7491. I'll state that
  7492. again for the record.
  7493.  
  7494. 1569
  7495. 01:05:24,487 --> 01:05:27,790
  7496. All protein is initially
  7497. made by plants, all of it,
  7498.  
  7499. 1570
  7500. 01:05:27,790 --> 01:05:31,494
  7501. and it is not necessary
  7502. to eat animal tissue
  7503.  
  7504. 1571
  7505. 01:05:31,494 --> 01:05:33,329
  7506. in order to get protein.
  7507.  
  7508. 1572
  7509. 01:05:33,329 --> 01:05:37,266
  7510. Only plants have the ability
  7511. to actually take nitrogen
  7512.  
  7513. 1573
  7514. 01:05:37,266 --> 01:05:39,902
  7515. from the air, break
  7516. those molecules apart,
  7517.  
  7518. 1574
  7519. 01:05:39,902 --> 01:05:41,237
  7520. and incorporate that nitrogen
  7521.  
  7522. 1575
  7523. 01:05:41,237 --> 01:05:44,407
  7524. into amino acids and
  7525. then make protein.
  7526.  
  7527. 1576
  7528. 01:05:44,407 --> 01:05:45,941
  7529. Any protein you
  7530. get from an animal
  7531.  
  7532. 1577
  7533. 01:05:45,941 --> 01:05:48,244
  7534. is simply recycled
  7535. plant protein.
  7536.  
  7537. 1578
  7538. 01:05:48,244 --> 01:05:51,247
  7539. - If you eat a diet that
  7540. was calorically adequate
  7541.  
  7542. 1579
  7543. 01:05:51,247 --> 01:05:53,182
  7544. and even things like
  7545. brown rice and broccoli
  7546.  
  7547. 1580
  7548. 01:05:53,182 --> 01:05:54,617
  7549. and you got enough of it.
  7550.  
  7551. 1581
  7552. 01:05:54,617 --> 01:05:57,219
  7553. You'd get enough both quantity
  7554. and quality of protein.
  7555.  
  7556. 1582
  7557. 01:05:57,219 --> 01:05:59,155
  7558. 2,000 calories of
  7559. brown rice and broccoli
  7560.  
  7561. 1583
  7562. 01:05:59,155 --> 01:06:01,157
  7563. is gonna be about 80
  7564. grams of protein a day
  7565.  
  7566. 1584
  7567. 01:06:01,157 --> 01:06:03,025
  7568. including the
  7569. essential amino acids
  7570.  
  7571. 1585
  7572. 01:06:03,025 --> 01:06:05,761
  7573. that you need in order to
  7574. maintain optimum health.
  7575.  
  7576. 1586
  7577. 01:06:05,761 --> 01:06:07,830
  7578. - I mean, the grains
  7579. are loaded with protein.
  7580.  
  7581. 1587
  7582. 01:06:07,830 --> 01:06:09,632
  7583. Beans are loaded with protein.
  7584.  
  7585. 1588
  7586. 01:06:09,632 --> 01:06:12,034
  7587. Vegetables are
  7588. loaded with protein.
  7589.  
  7590. 1589
  7591. 01:06:12,034 --> 01:06:15,137
  7592. - You really want to get
  7593. your protein from plants
  7594.  
  7595. 1590
  7596. 01:06:15,137 --> 01:06:18,641
  7597. because plant proteins have
  7598. a much more beneficial effect
  7599.  
  7600. 1591
  7601. 01:06:18,641 --> 01:06:20,142
  7602. on our physiology.
  7603.  
  7604. 1592
  7605. 01:06:20,142 --> 01:06:22,044
  7606. - The funny thing about
  7607. protein is most Americans
  7608.  
  7609. 1593
  7610. 01:06:22,044 --> 01:06:24,146
  7611. get about twice the
  7612. amount they need.
  7613.  
  7614. 1594
  7615. 01:06:24,146 --> 01:06:25,715
  7616. Most Americans are getting less
  7617.  
  7618. 1595
  7619. 01:06:25,715 --> 01:06:27,917
  7620. than half the amount
  7621. of fiber they need
  7622.  
  7623. 1596
  7624. 01:06:27,917 --> 01:06:30,019
  7625. but the conversation tends
  7626. to always be about protein.
  7627.  
  7628. 1597
  7629. 01:06:30,019 --> 01:06:33,122
  7630. So, my mind, it's just this
  7631. magical marketing campaign
  7632.  
  7633. 1598
  7634. 01:06:33,122 --> 01:06:35,558
  7635. that protein has taken
  7636. on over are decades.
  7637.  
  7638. 1599
  7639. 01:06:35,558 --> 01:06:37,393
  7640. - The question is not
  7641. where to get your protein,
  7642.  
  7643. 1600
  7644. 01:06:37,393 --> 01:06:39,161
  7645. it's really where do
  7646. you get your fiber?
  7647.  
  7648. 1601
  7649. 01:06:39,161 --> 01:06:41,464
  7650. - I've never in my
  7651. professional career
  7652.  
  7653. 1602
  7654. 01:06:41,464 --> 01:06:42,865
  7655. seen a protein deficiency.
  7656.  
  7657. 1603
  7658. 01:06:42,865 --> 01:06:44,166
  7659. I've never seen someone come in,
  7660.  
  7661. 1604
  7662. 01:06:44,166 --> 01:06:46,035
  7663. eating normal
  7664. amounts of calories
  7665.  
  7666. 1605
  7667. 01:06:46,035 --> 01:06:47,436
  7668. and their protein deficient.
  7669.  
  7670. 1606
  7671. 01:06:47,436 --> 01:06:48,904
  7672. You just don't see that.
  7673.  
  7674. 1607
  7675. 01:06:48,904 --> 01:06:52,475
  7676. - So, human milk has the
  7677. lowest protein content ever
  7678.  
  7679. 1608
  7680. 01:06:52,475 --> 01:06:54,610
  7681. in any species ever tested.
  7682.  
  7683. 1609
  7684. 01:06:54,610 --> 01:06:57,580
  7685. That's the fluid that's
  7686. been designed by evolution
  7687.  
  7688. 1610
  7689. 01:06:57,580 --> 01:06:59,115
  7690. over millions of years.
  7691.  
  7692. 1611
  7693. 01:06:59,115 --> 01:07:03,219
  7694. That's like the perfect food
  7695. for human babies, right?
  7696.  
  7697. 1612
  7698. 01:07:03,219 --> 01:07:06,989
  7699. Perfect food, lowest protein
  7700. content any other mammal.
  7701.  
  7702. 1613
  7703. 01:07:06,989 --> 01:07:09,759
  7704. So, it gives a sense of
  7705. protein requirements for--
  7706.  
  7707. 1614
  7708. 01:07:10,793 --> 01:07:11,627
  7709. Anything.
  7710.  
  7711. 1615
  7712. 01:07:11,627 --> 01:07:12,862
  7713. - [Kip] Like unit.
  7714.  
  7715. 1616
  7716. 01:07:12,862 --> 01:07:15,398
  7717. - Than rat milk, ape milk--
  7718. - Really?
  7719.  
  7720. 1617
  7721. 01:07:15,398 --> 01:07:17,967
  7722. - Donkey milk, any milk
  7723. that's ever been tested.
  7724.  
  7725. 1618
  7726. 01:07:17,967 --> 01:07:19,502
  7727. - You hear this a
  7728. lot in body builders.
  7729.  
  7730. 1619
  7731. 01:07:19,502 --> 01:07:24,273
  7732. Well, I need a chicken or
  7733. I need fish to be strong,
  7734.  
  7735. 1620
  7736. 01:07:24,273 --> 01:07:25,474
  7737. to build muscle tissue.
  7738.  
  7739. 1621
  7740. 01:07:25,474 --> 01:07:27,410
  7741. That is utter nonsense.
  7742.  
  7743. 1622
  7744. 01:07:27,410 --> 01:07:31,080
  7745. The largest, strongest
  7746. terrestrial animals
  7747. on the planet
  7748.  
  7749. 1623
  7750. 01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:32,548
  7751. are all herbivores.
  7752.  
  7753. 1624
  7754. 01:07:32,548 --> 01:07:35,151
  7755. The biggest, strongest
  7756. animals are all herbivores.
  7757.  
  7758. 1625
  7759. 01:07:35,151 --> 01:07:37,920
  7760. - When we bring in people
  7761. and they're on meaty diets
  7762.  
  7763. 1626
  7764. 01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:39,588
  7765. and we transition them
  7766. to a plant-based diet,
  7767.  
  7768. 1627
  7769. 01:07:39,588 --> 01:07:40,923
  7770. we always track
  7771. what their eating.
  7772.  
  7773. 1628
  7774. 01:07:40,923 --> 01:07:43,192
  7775. Their vitamin intake goes up.
  7776.  
  7777. 1629
  7778. 01:07:43,192 --> 01:07:46,195
  7779. Their nutrition overall
  7780. goes up dramatically better
  7781.  
  7782. 1630
  7783. 01:07:46,195 --> 01:07:48,697
  7784. and these same people
  7785. might worry in advance,
  7786.  
  7787. 1631
  7788. 01:07:48,697 --> 01:07:50,466
  7789. "Will I get the
  7790. nutrition that I need
  7791.  
  7792. 1632
  7793. 01:07:50,466 --> 01:07:51,567
  7794. "on a plant-based diet?"
  7795.  
  7796. 1633
  7797. 01:07:51,567 --> 01:07:53,235
  7798. The fact is, you're not getting
  7799.  
  7800. 1634
  7801. 01:07:53,235 --> 01:07:55,104
  7802. the nutrition you need
  7803. on a meat-based diet
  7804.  
  7805. 1635
  7806. 01:07:55,104 --> 01:07:56,539
  7807. and you're gonna
  7808. get dramatically
  7809.  
  7810. 1636
  7811. 01:07:56,539 --> 01:07:58,307
  7812. better nutrition on
  7813. a plant-based diet.
  7814.  
  7815. 1637
  7816. 01:07:58,307 --> 01:08:00,943
  7817. - For an average-sized
  7818. guy like myself,
  7819.  
  7820. 1638
  7821. 01:08:00,943 --> 01:08:04,313
  7822. I need about 56 grams of
  7823. protein a day, that's optimum.
  7824.  
  7825. 1639
  7826. 01:08:04,313 --> 01:08:06,782
  7827. Probably, I really need
  7828. 30 to 40 grams a day.
  7829.  
  7830. 1640
  7831. 01:08:06,782 --> 01:08:08,350
  7832. Diets are really
  7833. high on these protein
  7834.  
  7835. 1641
  7836. 01:08:08,350 --> 01:08:12,188
  7837. create diabetes, create
  7838. heart disease, create cancer,
  7839.  
  7840. 1642
  7841. 01:08:12,188 --> 01:08:15,191
  7842. create the diseases that I'm
  7843. treating on a daily basis.
  7844.  
  7845. 1643
  7846. 01:08:15,191 --> 01:08:16,358
  7847. - [Kip] But this is the opposite
  7848.  
  7849. 1644
  7850. 01:08:16,358 --> 01:08:18,694
  7851. of all the high
  7852. protein diet fads say.
  7853.  
  7854. 1645
  7855. 01:08:18,694 --> 01:08:20,963
  7856. - The food you eat
  7857. determines the bacteria
  7858.  
  7859. 1646
  7860. 01:08:20,963 --> 01:08:22,231
  7861. that live in your gut.
  7862.  
  7863. 1647
  7864. 01:08:22,231 --> 01:08:24,166
  7865. While you eat animal
  7866. flesh every day,
  7867.  
  7868. 1648
  7869. 01:08:24,166 --> 01:08:28,471
  7870. you are summoning up
  7871. bacteria that eat carnitine
  7872.  
  7873. 1649
  7874. 01:08:28,471 --> 01:08:31,140
  7875. and those bacteria will
  7876. turn that carnitine
  7877.  
  7878. 1650
  7879. 01:08:31,140 --> 01:08:34,076
  7880. into a molecule
  7881. called trimethylamine.
  7882.  
  7883. 1651
  7884. 01:08:34,076 --> 01:08:37,580
  7885. Your liver then turns that
  7886. into trimethylamine oxide.
  7887.  
  7888. 1652
  7889. 01:08:37,580 --> 01:08:39,114
  7890. That's a molecule from hell.
  7891.  
  7892. 1653
  7893. 01:08:39,114 --> 01:08:42,418
  7894. That molecule drives cholesterol
  7895. into the artery walls
  7896.  
  7897. 1654
  7898. 01:08:42,418 --> 01:08:45,387
  7899. and the people who are
  7900. consuming this flesh-based diet
  7901.  
  7902. 1655
  7903. 01:08:45,387 --> 01:08:47,756
  7904. are tripping to
  7905. plaque building up.
  7906.  
  7907. 1656
  7908. 01:08:47,756 --> 01:08:50,059
  7909. They may lose weight on
  7910. this diet and that's good
  7911.  
  7912. 1657
  7913. 01:08:50,059 --> 01:08:53,462
  7914. but what's happening inside
  7915. your arteries paleo friends?
  7916.  
  7917. 1658
  7918. 01:08:53,462 --> 01:08:55,698
  7919. What's happening is that
  7920. plaque is building up
  7921.  
  7922. 1659
  7923. 01:08:55,698 --> 01:08:58,400
  7924. and these are folks who
  7925. drop dead at the gym at 39.
  7926.  
  7927. 1660
  7928. 01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:00,536
  7929. Boo, he was lean and
  7930. he looked really good
  7931.  
  7932. 1661
  7933. 01:09:00,536 --> 01:09:02,771
  7934. but where is that
  7935. cholesterol going?
  7936.  
  7937. 1662
  7938. 01:09:02,771 --> 01:09:04,306
  7939. It's going to your artery walls.
  7940.  
  7941. 1663
  7942. 01:09:04,306 --> 01:09:08,010
  7943. So, I believe in this paleo
  7944. folks are setting themselves up
  7945.  
  7946. 1664
  7947. 01:09:08,010 --> 01:09:11,914
  7948. for an epidemic of clogged
  7949. arteries, colon cancers,
  7950.  
  7951. 1665
  7952. 01:09:11,914 --> 01:09:15,351
  7953. autoimmune diseases, this
  7954. is not a healthy diet.
  7955.  
  7956. 1666
  7957. 01:09:15,351 --> 01:09:17,219
  7958. We are not carnivorous apes.
  7959.  
  7960. 1667
  7961. 01:09:17,219 --> 01:09:19,455
  7962. - [Kip] Humans' closest
  7963. living relatives are chimps
  7964.  
  7965. 1668
  7966. 01:09:19,455 --> 01:09:21,824
  7967. who get 97% of their
  7968. calories from plants
  7969.  
  7970. 1669
  7971. 01:09:21,824 --> 01:09:24,493
  7972. and the remaining 3%
  7973. mostly from insects.
  7974.  
  7975. 1670
  7976. 01:09:24,493 --> 01:09:26,795
  7977. Comparing the anatomy of
  7978. true omnivores like bears
  7979.  
  7980. 1671
  7981. 01:09:26,795 --> 01:09:29,765
  7982. who eat both meat and plants
  7983. to frugivores like primates
  7984.  
  7985. 1672
  7986. 01:09:29,765 --> 01:09:31,734
  7987. who eat almost
  7988. exclusively plants,
  7989.  
  7990. 1673
  7991. 01:09:31,734 --> 01:09:33,502
  7992. the differences
  7993. are pretty clear.
  7994.  
  7995. 1674
  7996. 01:09:33,502 --> 01:09:35,571
  7997. Frugivore teeth have flat
  7998. molars for chewing plants
  7999.  
  8000. 1675
  8001. 01:09:35,571 --> 01:09:37,139
  8002. where omnivore
  8003. teeth are serrated
  8004.  
  8005. 1676
  8006. 01:09:37,139 --> 01:09:39,174
  8007. for stabbing and tearing flesh.
  8008.  
  8009. 1677
  8010. 01:09:39,174 --> 01:09:40,676
  8011. Frugivore jaws can move forward
  8012.  
  8013. 1678
  8014. 01:09:40,676 --> 01:09:41,877
  8015. and back and side to side.
  8016.  
  8017. 1679
  8018. 01:09:41,877 --> 01:09:43,879
  8019. Omnivore jaws cannot.
  8020.  
  8021. 1680
  8022. 01:09:43,879 --> 01:09:45,881
  8023. Omnivores have much
  8024. stronger stomach acid
  8025.  
  8026. 1681
  8027. 01:09:45,881 --> 01:09:47,349
  8028. for digesting meat
  8029.  
  8030. 1682
  8031. 01:09:47,349 --> 01:09:49,485
  8032. compared to less acidic
  8033. stomach acid of frugivores.
  8034.  
  8035. 1683
  8036. 01:09:49,485 --> 01:09:52,555
  8037. The intestines of frugivores
  8038. is nine times their body length
  8039.  
  8040. 1684
  8041. 01:09:52,555 --> 01:09:54,456
  8042. compared to three
  8043. times for omnivores.
  8044.  
  8045. 1685
  8046. 01:09:54,456 --> 01:09:56,659
  8047. This is because meat will
  8048. putrify in the gut less
  8049.  
  8050. 1686
  8051. 01:09:56,659 --> 01:09:58,160
  8052. as it moved through it quickly.
  8053.  
  8054. 1687
  8055. 01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:00,629
  8056. If humans were indeed true
  8057. omnivores, we would need
  8058.  
  8059. 1688
  8060. 01:10:00,629 --> 01:10:03,532
  8061. to change our physiology
  8062. and appearance quite a lot
  8063.  
  8064. 1689
  8065. 01:10:03,532 --> 01:10:06,769
  8066. but we fit every
  8067. requirement of a frugivore.
  8068.  
  8069. 1690
  8070. 01:10:06,769 --> 01:10:08,137
  8071. We may behave like omnivores
  8072.  
  8073. 1691
  8074. 01:10:08,137 --> 01:10:10,673
  8075. but anatomically,
  8076. we're frugivores.
  8077.  
  8078. 1692
  8079. 01:10:10,673 --> 01:10:12,908
  8080. - Human beings, unlike
  8081. bears and raccoons
  8082.  
  8083. 1693
  8084. 01:10:12,908 --> 01:10:14,577
  8085. and to some extent dogs,
  8086.  
  8087. 1694
  8088. 01:10:14,577 --> 01:10:18,280
  8089. don't have that mixed
  8090. anatomy and physiology
  8091.  
  8092. 1695
  8093. 01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:20,049
  8094. that you see in
  8095. the true omnivores
  8096.  
  8097. 1696
  8098. 01:10:20,049 --> 01:10:22,151
  8099. and thus, we are
  8100. not true omnivores.
  8101.  
  8102. 1697
  8103. 01:10:22,151 --> 01:10:25,788
  8104. In humans, the canines
  8105. have become really small
  8106.  
  8107. 1698
  8108. 01:10:25,788 --> 01:10:30,025
  8109. and rounded and
  8110. actually function like
  8111. accessory incisors.
  8112.  
  8113. 1699
  8114. 01:10:30,025 --> 01:10:31,827
  8115. They're utterly
  8116. useless for ripping
  8117.  
  8118. 1700
  8119. 01:10:31,827 --> 01:10:34,229
  8120. and tearing anything
  8121. other than the envelope.
  8122.  
  8123. 1701
  8124. 01:10:34,229 --> 01:10:37,700
  8125. So, the idea that the mere
  8126. presence of the canine
  8127.  
  8128. 1702
  8129. 01:10:37,700 --> 01:10:40,669
  8130. somehow means that
  8131. we're supposed to
  8132. eat meat, it's silly.
  8133.  
  8134. 1703
  8135. 01:10:40,669 --> 01:10:41,904
  8136. - [Kip] He was right.
  8137.  
  8138. 1704
  8139. 01:10:41,904 --> 01:10:43,339
  8140. I always tell my
  8141. canines were from me
  8142.  
  8143. 1705
  8144. 01:10:43,339 --> 01:10:45,107
  8145. but what kind of animal
  8146. could I actually kill
  8147.  
  8148. 1706
  8149. 01:10:45,107 --> 01:10:47,776
  8150. and eat raw with
  8151. these tiny teeth?
  8152.  
  8153. 1707
  8154. 01:10:47,776 --> 01:10:49,778
  8155. The thought alone
  8156. was disgusting.
  8157.  
  8158. 1708
  8159. 01:10:49,778 --> 01:10:51,380
  8160. - I mean everybody
  8161. loves a smoothie
  8162.  
  8163. 1709
  8164. 01:10:51,380 --> 01:10:54,049
  8165. made with fruit and
  8166. even some vegetables
  8167.  
  8168. 1710
  8169. 01:10:54,049 --> 01:10:55,918
  8170. but if you think
  8171. about putting a fish
  8172.  
  8173. 1711
  8174. 01:10:55,918 --> 01:11:00,255
  8175. or a piece of beef in the
  8176. blender and grinding it up.
  8177.  
  8178. 1712
  8179. 01:11:00,255 --> 01:11:03,025
  8180. The thought is
  8181. absolutely repulsive.
  8182.  
  8183. 1713
  8184. 01:11:03,025 --> 01:11:04,727
  8185. - [Kip] All these
  8186. diseases I'd learned about
  8187.  
  8188. 1714
  8189. 01:11:04,727 --> 01:11:07,129
  8190. were from eating a diet our
  8191. body wasn't designed for.
  8192.  
  8193. 1715
  8194. 01:11:07,129 --> 01:11:09,031
  8195. What would happen if we
  8196. started eating a diet
  8197.  
  8198. 1716
  8199. 01:11:09,031 --> 01:11:11,400
  8200. our body actually
  8201. was designed for?
  8202.  
  8203. 1717
  8204. 01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:12,901
  8205. - The data is crystal clear
  8206.  
  8207. 1718
  8208. 01:11:12,901 --> 01:11:15,537
  8209. that you can stop and
  8210. reverse heart disease
  8211.  
  8212. 1719
  8213. 01:11:15,537 --> 01:11:17,039
  8214. with plant-based diets.
  8215.  
  8216. 1720
  8217. 01:11:17,039 --> 01:11:20,142
  8218. Scientifically shown, I've
  8219. seen in my own patients.
  8220.  
  8221. 1721
  8222. 01:11:20,142 --> 01:11:22,311
  8223. - People who adopt
  8224. low-fat plant-based diets
  8225.  
  8226. 1722
  8227. 01:11:22,311 --> 01:11:24,380
  8228. can actually reverse
  8229. their heart disease
  8230.  
  8231. 1723
  8232. 01:11:24,380 --> 01:11:26,682
  8233. and that literally means
  8234. watching the plaques
  8235.  
  8236. 1724
  8237. 01:11:26,682 --> 01:11:29,618
  8238. start to go away, something
  8239. they didn't think could happen.
  8240.  
  8241. 1725
  8242. 01:11:29,618 --> 01:11:31,253
  8243. - My experience with patients is
  8244.  
  8245. 1726
  8246. 01:11:31,253 --> 01:11:33,022
  8247. and the studies show
  8248. that when people adopt
  8249.  
  8250. 1727
  8251. 01:11:33,022 --> 01:11:35,357
  8252. the fully plant-based diet,
  8253. their cholesterol levels
  8254.  
  8255. 1728
  8256. 01:11:35,357 --> 01:11:36,825
  8257. plummet within a few days
  8258.  
  8259. 1729
  8260. 01:11:36,825 --> 01:11:38,494
  8261. and if you do blood tests
  8262. in a couple of weeks,
  8263.  
  8264. 1730
  8265. 01:11:38,494 --> 01:11:40,296
  8266. you'll see dramatic
  8267. improvements.
  8268.  
  8269. 1731
  8270. 01:11:40,296 --> 01:11:41,930
  8271. - Yes, your numbers
  8272. are gonna look great
  8273.  
  8274. 1732
  8275. 01:11:41,930 --> 01:11:43,198
  8276. within a week or two.
  8277.  
  8278. 1733
  8279. 01:11:43,198 --> 01:11:44,633
  8280. Your cholesterol can
  8281. come crashing down.
  8282.  
  8283. 1734
  8284. 01:11:44,633 --> 01:11:46,168
  8285. In fact, if you're
  8286. on medications,
  8287.  
  8288. 1735
  8289. 01:11:46,168 --> 01:11:47,169
  8290. your doctor may have to pull off
  8291.  
  8292. 1736
  8293. 01:11:47,169 --> 01:11:48,737
  8294. your blood pressure medications
  8295.  
  8296. 1737
  8297. 01:11:48,737 --> 01:11:50,472
  8298. so your blood pressure
  8299. don't drop too low
  8300.  
  8301. 1738
  8302. 01:11:50,472 --> 01:11:52,174
  8303. because it can work too good.
  8304.  
  8305. 1739
  8306. 01:11:52,174 --> 01:11:55,144
  8307. The side effect is not
  8308. having to take drugs.
  8309.  
  8310. 1740
  8311. 01:11:55,144 --> 01:11:57,446
  8312. - [Kip] In a groundbreaking
  8313. study published by Dr. Esselstyn
  8314.  
  8315. 1741
  8316. 01:11:57,446 --> 01:12:00,416
  8317. following patients suffering
  8318. from cardiovascular disease,
  8319.  
  8320. 1742
  8321. 01:12:00,416 --> 01:12:04,520
  8322. 99.4% were able to avoid
  8323. major cardiac events
  8324.  
  8325. 1743
  8326. 01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:06,188
  8327. by going plant-based.
  8328.  
  8329. 1744
  8330. 01:12:06,188 --> 01:12:07,890
  8331. - Because it's not
  8332. just heart disease.
  8333.  
  8334. 1745
  8335. 01:12:07,890 --> 01:12:10,626
  8336. It's hypertension, it's
  8337. diabetes, it's strokes,
  8338.  
  8339. 1746
  8340. 01:12:10,626 --> 01:12:14,396
  8341. it's heart attacks, it's several
  8342. of the autoimmune diseases,
  8343.  
  8344. 1747
  8345. 01:12:14,396 --> 01:12:17,232
  8346. lupus, asthma,
  8347. GERD, osteoporosis.
  8348.  
  8349. 1748
  8350. 01:12:18,500 --> 01:12:21,303
  8351. I mean, there's a
  8352. multitude of diseases.
  8353.  
  8354. 1749
  8355. 01:12:21,303 --> 01:12:22,638
  8356. Even rheumatoid arthritis.
  8357.  
  8358. 1750
  8359. 01:12:22,638 --> 01:12:23,906
  8360. It's gonna be so dramatic.
  8361.  
  8362. 1751
  8363. 01:12:23,906 --> 01:12:25,407
  8364. When you see these poor souls
  8365.  
  8366. 1752
  8367. 01:12:25,407 --> 01:12:27,443
  8368. who are just absolutely crippled
  8369.  
  8370. 1753
  8371. 01:12:27,443 --> 01:12:29,445
  8372. with rheumatoid
  8373. arthritis go plant-based,
  8374.  
  8375. 1754
  8376. 01:12:29,445 --> 01:12:32,347
  8377. then they come off
  8378. their medication.
  8379.  
  8380. 1755
  8381. 01:12:32,347 --> 01:12:34,083
  8382. - I wanted to follow
  8383. up with Jane Chapman
  8384.  
  8385. 1756
  8386. 01:12:34,083 --> 01:12:36,418
  8387. who had been suffering
  8388. if severe osteoarthritis,
  8389.  
  8390. 1757
  8391. 01:12:36,418 --> 01:12:39,788
  8392. and I could not believe what
  8393. I saw after only a few weeks
  8394.  
  8395. 1758
  8396. 01:12:39,788 --> 01:12:42,324
  8397. of fasting and
  8398. changing her diet.
  8399.  
  8400. 1759
  8401. 01:12:42,324 --> 01:12:44,126
  8402. - So amazing to
  8403. see you like this--
  8404.  
  8405. 1760
  8406. 01:12:44,126 --> 01:12:45,627
  8407. - I know.
  8408. - Only a few weeks later.
  8409.  
  8410. 1761
  8411. 01:12:45,627 --> 01:12:49,031
  8412. - I know, from going
  8413. from the walker,
  8414.  
  8415. 1762
  8416. 01:12:49,031 --> 01:12:52,401
  8417. needing wheelchair
  8418. assistance at the airport
  8419.  
  8420. 1763
  8421. 01:12:52,401 --> 01:12:55,270
  8422. to strolling down the street,
  8423.  
  8424. 1764
  8425. 01:12:55,270 --> 01:12:59,308
  8426. enjoying the fresh air
  8427. and the sunshine...
  8428.  
  8429. 1765
  8430. 01:12:59,308 --> 01:13:02,811
  8431. Two weeks is all it took, two
  8432. weeks to get off all the meds
  8433.  
  8434. 1766
  8435. 01:13:02,811 --> 01:13:06,148
  8436. and start to feel
  8437. the inflammation
  8438.  
  8439. 1767
  8440. 01:13:06,148 --> 01:13:08,817
  8441. just drained out of the body
  8442.  
  8443. 1768
  8444. 01:13:08,817 --> 01:13:11,754
  8445. where the movement
  8446. was much easier,
  8447.  
  8448. 1769
  8449. 01:13:12,955 --> 01:13:15,891
  8450. just a lot of healing
  8451. occurred very rapidly
  8452.  
  8453. 1770
  8454. 01:13:15,891 --> 01:13:18,393
  8455. just by doing the right
  8456. things for your body.
  8457.  
  8458. 1771
  8459. 01:13:18,393 --> 01:13:21,530
  8460. - When you're treating
  8461. diseases with drugs,
  8462.  
  8463. 1772
  8464. 01:13:21,530 --> 01:13:23,432
  8465. there's one drug you
  8466. take for cholesterol,
  8467.  
  8468. 1773
  8469. 01:13:23,432 --> 01:13:25,901
  8470. a different class of drugs to
  8471. take for high blood pressure,
  8472.  
  8473. 1774
  8474. 01:13:25,901 --> 01:13:28,237
  8475. different class of drugs
  8476. you take for diabetes,
  8477.  
  8478. 1775
  8479. 01:13:28,237 --> 01:13:30,272
  8480. but with diet, a
  8481. plant-based diet,
  8482.  
  8483. 1776
  8484. 01:13:30,272 --> 01:13:34,510
  8485. affects all these diseases,
  8486. one diet rules them all.
  8487.  
  8488. 1777
  8489. 01:13:34,510 --> 01:13:35,844
  8490. - [Kip] The impacts
  8491. of eating this way
  8492.  
  8493. 1778
  8494. 01:13:35,844 --> 01:13:37,146
  8495. go far beyond ourselves.
  8496.  
  8497. 1779
  8498. 01:13:37,146 --> 01:13:39,014
  8499. By getting rid of
  8500. heart disease alone,
  8501.  
  8502. 1780
  8503. 01:13:39,014 --> 01:13:42,084
  8504. we would save up to 48
  8505. trillion dollars in the USA,
  8506.  
  8507. 1781
  8508. 01:13:42,084 --> 01:13:44,553
  8509. three times the US GDP.
  8510.  
  8511. 1782
  8512. 01:13:44,553 --> 01:13:46,054
  8513. - Conditions like
  8514. high blood pressure,
  8515.  
  8516. 1783
  8517. 01:13:46,054 --> 01:13:48,690
  8518. you don't have to take the
  8519. drugs for rest of your life
  8520.  
  8521. 1784
  8522. 01:13:48,690 --> 01:13:50,192
  8523. and be sick forever.
  8524.  
  8525. 1785
  8526. 01:13:50,192 --> 01:13:52,161
  8527. What you can do is live in
  8528. such a way that it gives
  8529.  
  8530. 1786
  8531. 01:13:52,161 --> 01:13:53,862
  8532. the body a chance
  8533. to heal itself.
  8534.  
  8535. 1787
  8536. 01:13:53,862 --> 01:13:57,399
  8537. We took 174 consecutive patients
  8538. with high blood pressure
  8539.  
  8540. 1788
  8541. 01:13:57,399 --> 01:13:59,601
  8542. and 174 people
  8543. were able to lower
  8544.  
  8545. 1789
  8546. 01:13:59,601 --> 01:14:00,836
  8547. their blood pressure enough
  8548.  
  8549. 1790
  8550. 01:14:00,836 --> 01:14:02,638
  8551. to eliminate the
  8552. need for medication.
  8553.  
  8554. 1791
  8555. 01:14:02,638 --> 01:14:05,040
  8556. - For inflammatory bowel
  8557. disease like Crohn's,
  8558.  
  8559. 1792
  8560. 01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:07,709
  8561. the best remission
  8562. rates ever achieved
  8563.  
  8564. 1793
  8565. 01:14:07,709 --> 01:14:10,445
  8566. through plant-based diet,
  8567. MS, multiple sclerosis.
  8568.  
  8569. 1794
  8570. 01:14:10,445 --> 01:14:13,115
  8571. The best results ever
  8572. achieved compared
  8573.  
  8574. 1795
  8575. 01:14:13,115 --> 01:14:15,517
  8576. to any medical-surgical,
  8577. any kind of intervention,
  8578.  
  8579. 1796
  8580. 01:14:15,517 --> 01:14:17,019
  8581. was a plant-based diet.
  8582.  
  8583. 1797
  8584. 01:14:17,019 --> 01:14:19,321
  8585. - You can see that with
  8586. every sequential reduction
  8587.  
  8588. 1798
  8589. 01:14:19,321 --> 01:14:22,024
  8590. in animal products,
  8591. people live longer,
  8592.  
  8593. 1799
  8594. 01:14:22,024 --> 01:14:24,026
  8595. they have less heart disease,
  8596. they have less cancer,
  8597.  
  8598. 1800
  8599. 01:14:24,026 --> 01:14:25,327
  8600. they have less diabetes.
  8601.  
  8602. 1801
  8603. 01:14:25,327 --> 01:14:26,995
  8604. - You can actually
  8605. take human cancer cells
  8606.  
  8607. 1802
  8608. 01:14:26,995 --> 01:14:28,263
  8609. and put 'em in a Petri dish,
  8610.  
  8611. 1803
  8612. 01:14:28,263 --> 01:14:30,232
  8613. you can drip the blood
  8614. of those eating vegan,
  8615.  
  8616. 1804
  8617. 01:14:30,232 --> 01:14:33,001
  8618. get about 72% suppression
  8619.  
  8620. 1805
  8621. 01:14:33,001 --> 01:14:36,038
  8622. in human prostate cancer
  8623. cell growth in vitro.
  8624.  
  8625. 1806
  8626. 01:14:36,038 --> 01:14:39,107
  8627. They want to try this again
  8628. with women in breast cancer,
  8629.  
  8630. 1807
  8631. 01:14:39,107 --> 01:14:40,709
  8632. said, "Let's see what a
  8633. plant-based diet can do."
  8634.  
  8635. 1808
  8636. 01:14:40,709 --> 01:14:43,245
  8637. After just two weeks,
  8638. their bodies cleaned up.
  8639.  
  8640. 1809
  8641. 01:14:43,245 --> 01:14:46,448
  8642. You drip their blood on the
  8643. same carpet of cancer cells,
  8644.  
  8645. 1810
  8646. 01:14:46,448 --> 01:14:48,250
  8647. you can clear off
  8648. the whole plate.
  8649.  
  8650. 1811
  8651. 01:14:48,250 --> 01:14:50,319
  8652. This is after just two
  8653. weeks eating healthy
  8654.  
  8655. 1812
  8656. 01:14:50,319 --> 01:14:51,587
  8657. which raised the question,
  8658.  
  8659. 1813
  8660. 01:14:51,587 --> 01:14:53,488
  8661. what kind of blood do
  8662. we want in our bodies?
  8663.  
  8664. 1814
  8665. 01:14:53,488 --> 01:14:56,892
  8666. - My background is in industrial
  8667. and systems engineering
  8668.  
  8669. 1815
  8670. 01:14:56,892 --> 01:15:00,395
  8671. and that was my career
  8672. path for a long time
  8673.  
  8674. 1816
  8675. 01:15:00,395 --> 01:15:03,165
  8676. until I had thyroid cancer
  8677.  
  8678. 1817
  8679. 01:15:03,165 --> 01:15:06,568
  8680. and everything
  8681. changed from there.
  8682.  
  8683. 1818
  8684. 01:15:06,568 --> 01:15:10,739
  8685. I decided that I wanted
  8686. to try alternative methods
  8687.  
  8688. 1819
  8689. 01:15:11,874 --> 01:15:14,009
  8690. and treatments rather
  8691. than have surgery
  8692.  
  8693. 1820
  8694. 01:15:14,009 --> 01:15:15,811
  8695. and have my thyroid removed
  8696.  
  8697. 1821
  8698. 01:15:15,811 --> 01:15:17,079
  8699. which meant I'd be
  8700. on medication forever
  8701.  
  8702. 1822
  8703. 01:15:17,079 --> 01:15:18,614
  8704. and didn't want that.
  8705.  
  8706. 1823
  8707. 01:15:18,614 --> 01:15:21,583
  8708. I just started reading
  8709. into how plant-based diet
  8710.  
  8711. 1824
  8712. 01:15:21,583 --> 01:15:25,120
  8713. can heal the body and it has
  8714. worked for so many people.
  8715.  
  8716. 1825
  8717. 01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:27,089
  8718. So, I immediately just switched
  8719.  
  8720. 1826
  8721. 01:15:27,089 --> 01:15:30,759
  8722. to a completely whole
  8723. food plant-based diet.
  8724.  
  8725. 1827
  8726. 01:15:30,759 --> 01:15:33,929
  8727. After a year, the cancer
  8728. was completely gone
  8729.  
  8730. 1828
  8731. 01:15:33,929 --> 01:15:37,032
  8732. and my thyroid had
  8733. shrunk to normal size
  8734.  
  8735. 1829
  8736. 01:15:37,032 --> 01:15:40,035
  8737. and I was completely
  8738. free of that.
  8739.  
  8740. 1830
  8741. 01:15:40,035 --> 01:15:41,536
  8742. - [Kip] This was
  8743. tough to believe.
  8744.  
  8745. 1831
  8746. 01:15:41,536 --> 01:15:43,438
  8747. Couldn't this all just be
  8748. from eating healthier though
  8749.  
  8750. 1832
  8751. 01:15:43,438 --> 01:15:44,873
  8752. like no sugar?
  8753.  
  8754. 1833
  8755. 01:15:44,873 --> 01:15:47,409
  8756. Turns out, Dr. Walter
  8757. Kempner from Duke University
  8758.  
  8759. 1834
  8760. 01:15:47,409 --> 01:15:49,811
  8761. back in the 1940's
  8762. was reversing some
  8763.  
  8764. 1835
  8765. 01:15:49,811 --> 01:15:52,481
  8766. of our worst killer
  8767. diseases with diet alone
  8768.  
  8769. 1836
  8770. 01:15:52,481 --> 01:15:53,649
  8771. and the diet he was using
  8772.  
  8773. 1837
  8774. 01:15:53,649 --> 01:15:55,550
  8775. was not always
  8776. strictly plant-based
  8777.  
  8778. 1838
  8779. 01:15:55,550 --> 01:15:59,621
  8780. but it was made up of white
  8781. rice, fruit, and table sugar.
  8782.  
  8783. 1839
  8784. 01:15:59,621 --> 01:16:01,423
  8785. - And he was reversing diabetes,
  8786.  
  8787. 1840
  8788. 01:16:01,423 --> 01:16:03,592
  8789. he was reversing
  8790. malignant hypertension,
  8791.  
  8792. 1841
  8793. 01:16:03,592 --> 01:16:06,728
  8794. reversing heart disease,
  8795. the diabetic complications,
  8796.  
  8797. 1842
  8798. 01:16:06,728 --> 01:16:08,997
  8799. reversing diabetic blindness.
  8800.  
  8801. 1843
  8802. 01:16:08,997 --> 01:16:11,133
  8803. So, these people basically
  8804. had death sentences,
  8805.  
  8806. 1844
  8807. 01:16:11,133 --> 01:16:14,069
  8808. went to him, and were
  8809. given basically sugar.
  8810.  
  8811. 1845
  8812. 01:16:14,069 --> 01:16:16,204
  8813. You know, this horrible diet
  8814.  
  8815. 1846
  8816. 01:16:16,204 --> 01:16:19,207
  8817. but it was strictly plant-based.
  8818.  
  8819. 1847
  8820. 01:16:19,207 --> 01:16:20,642
  8821. - [Kip] If this
  8822. information had been around
  8823.  
  8824. 1848
  8825. 01:16:20,642 --> 01:16:23,879
  8826. since the 1940's, why don't
  8827. all doctors know this?
  8828.  
  8829. 1849
  8830. 01:16:23,879 --> 01:16:25,047
  8831. - We're not taught
  8832. about the power
  8833.  
  8834. 1850
  8835. 01:16:25,047 --> 01:16:27,516
  8836. of food in medical school.
  8837.  
  8838. 1851
  8839. 01:16:27,516 --> 01:16:31,153
  8840. No one is taught that
  8841. the changes that we make
  8842.  
  8843. 1852
  8844. 01:16:31,153 --> 01:16:34,489
  8845. with our diet are probably
  8846. the single most powerful thing
  8847.  
  8848. 1853
  8849. 01:16:34,489 --> 01:16:36,692
  8850. we can do to
  8851. determine our destiny.
  8852.  
  8853. 1854
  8854. 01:16:36,692 --> 01:16:38,327
  8855. It trumps our genetics.
  8856.  
  8857. 1855
  8858. 01:16:38,327 --> 01:16:39,928
  8859. - Why isn't your
  8860. doctor telling this?
  8861.  
  8862. 1856
  8863. 01:16:39,928 --> 01:16:42,531
  8864. Odds are your doctor never
  8865. learned any of these.
  8866.  
  8867. 1857
  8868. 01:16:42,531 --> 01:16:43,832
  8869. In fact, there is even
  8870. a bill introduced,
  8871.  
  8872. 1858
  8873. 01:16:43,832 --> 01:16:45,167
  8874. just mandating physicians
  8875.  
  8876. 1859
  8877. 01:16:45,167 --> 01:16:47,102
  8878. to get seven hours
  8879. of nutrition training
  8880.  
  8881. 1860
  8882. 01:16:47,102 --> 01:16:49,771
  8883. every couple of years just
  8884. kinda stay on top of it
  8885.  
  8886. 1861
  8887. 01:16:49,771 --> 01:16:52,808
  8888. and who came out against that?
  8889.  
  8890. 1862
  8891. 01:16:52,808 --> 01:16:54,343
  8892. The California
  8893. Medical Association.
  8894.  
  8895. 1863
  8896. 01:16:54,343 --> 01:16:56,078
  8897. Even the family
  8898. physicians, the surgeons,
  8899.  
  8900. 1864
  8901. 01:16:56,078 --> 01:16:59,348
  8902. all the mainstream medical
  8903. groups came out opposed.
  8904.  
  8905. 1865
  8906. 01:16:59,348 --> 01:17:01,483
  8907. - If seven hours, that's a lot.
  8908.  
  8909. 1866
  8910. 01:17:01,483 --> 01:17:03,752
  8911. Even if it's over
  8912. one for your period.
  8913.  
  8914. 1867
  8915. 01:17:03,752 --> 01:17:05,687
  8916. - So, they're not just neutral
  8917.  
  8918. 1868
  8919. 01:17:05,687 --> 01:17:09,291
  8920. but they actually actively
  8921. opposing nutrition education.
  8922.  
  8923. 1869
  8924. 01:17:09,291 --> 01:17:11,293
  8925. - Ironically, when patients
  8926. come to doctors with questions,
  8927.  
  8928. 1870
  8929. 01:17:11,293 --> 01:17:14,029
  8930. they assume that the doctor
  8931. knows something about nutrition
  8932.  
  8933. 1871
  8934. 01:17:14,029 --> 01:17:16,198
  8935. and so, it's kind of a
  8936. double whammy that doctors
  8937.  
  8938. 1872
  8939. 01:17:16,198 --> 01:17:17,833
  8940. haven't been taught
  8941. much about nutrition.
  8942.  
  8943. 1873
  8944. 01:17:17,833 --> 01:17:19,801
  8945. - [Kip] Why don't we hear
  8946. about this from dieticians
  8947.  
  8948. 1874
  8949. 01:17:19,801 --> 01:17:22,170
  8950. where nutrition is
  8951. their entire specialty?
  8952.  
  8953. 1875
  8954. 01:17:22,170 --> 01:17:24,473
  8955. Turns out, the
  8956. American Nutrition and
  8957. Dietetics Association
  8958.  
  8959. 1876
  8960. 01:17:24,473 --> 01:17:26,208
  8961. puts out a nutrition
  8962. facts sheets
  8963.  
  8964. 1877
  8965. 01:17:26,208 --> 01:17:28,043
  8966. written by the
  8967. industries themselves.
  8968.  
  8969. 1878
  8970. 01:17:28,043 --> 01:17:30,512
  8971. The industries pay
  8972. $20,000 per fact sheet
  8973.  
  8974. 1879
  8975. 01:17:30,512 --> 01:17:32,848
  8976. and explicitly take
  8977. part in writing them.
  8978.  
  8979. 1880
  8980. 01:17:32,848 --> 01:17:34,516
  8981. So, you can learn about
  8982. eggs from the egg industry.
  8983.  
  8984. 1881
  8985. 01:17:34,516 --> 01:17:37,252
  8986. You can learn about lamb
  8987. from the lamb industry.
  8988.  
  8989. 1882
  8990. 01:17:37,252 --> 01:17:39,454
  8991. This would be like learning
  8992. about the benefits of smoking
  8993.  
  8994. 1883
  8995. 01:17:39,454 --> 01:17:41,189
  8996. from the tobacco industry.
  8997.  
  8998. 1884
  8999. 01:17:41,189 --> 01:17:42,858
  9000. - When people are eating meat,
  9001.  
  9002. 1885
  9003. 01:17:42,858 --> 01:17:44,726
  9004. I think of it as a
  9005. bit like smoking.
  9006.  
  9007. 1886
  9008. 01:17:44,726 --> 01:17:46,828
  9009. It's sort of Russian Roulette.
  9010.  
  9011. 1887
  9012. 01:17:46,828 --> 01:17:48,330
  9013. You may not get diabetes
  9014.  
  9015. 1888
  9016. 01:17:48,330 --> 01:17:51,433
  9017. but your chances of getting
  9018. diabetes, about one in three.
  9019.  
  9020. 1889
  9021. 01:17:51,433 --> 01:17:53,001
  9022. You may not get cancer
  9023. but your chances
  9024.  
  9025. 1890
  9026. 01:17:53,001 --> 01:17:55,937
  9027. if you're a man, about one in
  9028. two, a woman, one in three.
  9029.  
  9030. 1891
  9031. 01:17:55,937 --> 01:17:58,106
  9032. Your chances of gaining
  9033. weight, two out of three.
  9034.  
  9035. 1892
  9036. 01:17:58,106 --> 01:18:00,142
  9037. It's not all diet
  9038. but most of it is.
  9039.  
  9040. 1893
  9041. 01:18:00,142 --> 01:18:01,977
  9042. The best thing that
  9043. you can do to make sure
  9044.  
  9045. 1894
  9046. 01:18:01,977 --> 01:18:05,080
  9047. that you empty those
  9048. bullets out of the chamber
  9049.  
  9050. 1895
  9051. 01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:06,715
  9052. and not taking risk
  9053. with your health,
  9054.  
  9055. 1896
  9056. 01:18:06,715 --> 01:18:08,984
  9057. is to get the animal
  9058. products out of your diet
  9059.  
  9060. 1897
  9061. 01:18:08,984 --> 01:18:11,286
  9062. and eat healthy foods.
  9063.  
  9064. 1898
  9065. 01:18:11,286 --> 01:18:14,122
  9066. - I came to TrueNorth to
  9067. help me with my asthma
  9068.  
  9069. 1899
  9070. 01:18:14,122 --> 01:18:16,658
  9071. and to lose a little
  9072. weight and it's amazing,
  9073.  
  9074. 1900
  9075. 01:18:16,658 --> 01:18:18,727
  9076. just in two weeks
  9077. of changing my diet,
  9078.  
  9079. 1901
  9080. 01:18:18,727 --> 01:18:22,431
  9081. don't have to take
  9082. any asthma medication,
  9083.  
  9084. 1902
  9085. 01:18:22,431 --> 01:18:26,468
  9086. no anti-depressants,
  9087. no pain medication,
  9088.  
  9089. 1903
  9090. 01:18:26,468 --> 01:18:30,572
  9091. no heart medication, nothing,
  9092. no medications at all.
  9093.  
  9094. 1904
  9095. 01:18:30,572 --> 01:18:33,942
  9096. And it's really,
  9097. it's just incredible.
  9098.  
  9099. 1905
  9100. 01:18:33,942 --> 01:18:37,345
  9101. I was taking Oxy
  9102. and Advil and...
  9103.  
  9104. 1906
  9105. 01:18:37,345 --> 01:18:40,215
  9106. I was taking 800 milligrams
  9107. of Motrin three times a day
  9108.  
  9109. 1907
  9110. 01:18:40,215 --> 01:18:42,017
  9111. just to get through the day
  9112.  
  9113. 1908
  9114. 01:18:42,017 --> 01:18:43,819
  9115. because I was in so much pain.
  9116.  
  9117. 1909
  9118. 01:18:43,819 --> 01:18:45,454
  9119. And now, nothing.
  9120.  
  9121. 1910
  9122. 01:18:45,454 --> 01:18:46,455
  9123. - Wow.
  9124. - Nothing at all.
  9125.  
  9126. 1911
  9127. 01:18:46,455 --> 01:18:47,289
  9128. - Two weeks?
  9129.  
  9130. 1912
  9131. 01:18:47,289 --> 01:18:48,890
  9132. - Two weeks, 14 days.
  9133.  
  9134. 1913
  9135. 01:18:48,890 --> 01:18:49,858
  9136. - So, you're taking
  9137. all that medication,
  9138.  
  9139. 1914
  9140. 01:18:49,858 --> 01:18:51,259
  9141. you're completely off?
  9142.  
  9143. 1915
  9144. 01:18:51,259 --> 01:18:52,961
  9145. - Completely off everything.
  9146.  
  9147. 1916
  9148. 01:18:52,961 --> 01:18:54,563
  9149. It's just been so
  9150. frustrating to me
  9151.  
  9152. 1917
  9153. 01:18:54,563 --> 01:18:58,600
  9154. because I went to so many
  9155. different doctors for help
  9156.  
  9157. 1918
  9158. 01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:01,403
  9159. and I tried so many
  9160. different medications
  9161.  
  9162. 1919
  9163. 01:19:01,403 --> 01:19:04,272
  9164. to help me with my
  9165. asthma and nothing helped
  9166.  
  9167. 1920
  9168. 01:19:04,272 --> 01:19:07,209
  9169. and I was stuck on the couch
  9170. for the last 10 months,
  9171.  
  9172. 1921
  9173. 01:19:07,209 --> 01:19:11,046
  9174. unable to breathe, and
  9175. now, in two weeks time,
  9176.  
  9177. 1922
  9178. 01:19:12,481 --> 01:19:15,350
  9179. 14 days, I'm off my medication.
  9180.  
  9181. 1923
  9182. 01:19:15,350 --> 01:19:18,887
  9183. And I can breathe and I
  9184. feel good, and I can walk.
  9185.  
  9186. 1924
  9187. 01:19:18,887 --> 01:19:21,990
  9188. My life has changed
  9189. and I took two weeks
  9190.  
  9191. 1925
  9192. 01:19:21,990 --> 01:19:24,159
  9193. of a whole plant-based diet.
  9194.  
  9195. 1926
  9196. 01:19:24,159 --> 01:19:25,393
  9197. - [Kip] That's incredible.
  9198.  
  9199. 1927
  9200. 01:19:25,393 --> 01:19:26,228
  9201. - Yeah.
  9202.  
  9203. 1928
  9204. 01:19:27,295 --> 01:19:28,530
  9205. - That was incredible.
  9206.  
  9207. 1929
  9208. 01:19:28,530 --> 01:19:30,932
  9209. - It really is.
  9210. - That sounds amazing.
  9211.  
  9212. 1930
  9213. 01:19:30,932 --> 01:19:32,167
  9214. - I know, it really is.
  9215.  
  9216. 1931
  9217. 01:19:32,167 --> 01:19:35,871
  9218. I feel so blessed and so
  9219. good and just so happy
  9220.  
  9221. 1932
  9222. 01:19:37,472 --> 01:19:39,274
  9223. to be doing this and I'm hoping
  9224.  
  9225. 1933
  9226. 01:19:39,274 --> 01:19:41,309
  9227. that I can be a role
  9228. model for other people
  9229.  
  9230. 1934
  9231. 01:19:41,309 --> 01:19:43,378
  9232. and not be pushy about it
  9233.  
  9234. 1935
  9235. 01:19:44,813 --> 01:19:48,416
  9236. because everyone's gonna
  9237. do it in their own time.
  9238.  
  9239. 1936
  9240. 01:19:48,416 --> 01:19:50,752
  9241. But think on my time is now.
  9242.  
  9243. 1937
  9244. 01:19:53,555 --> 01:19:54,656
  9245. - [Kip] That's incredible.
  9246.  
  9247. 1938
  9248. 01:19:54,656 --> 01:19:56,091
  9249. - Thanks, thanks.
  9250.  
  9251. 1939
  9252. 01:19:58,860 --> 01:20:00,562
  9253. - [Kip] As powerful
  9254. as Amy's story was,
  9255.  
  9256. 1940
  9257. 01:20:00,562 --> 01:20:03,265
  9258. I knew for some,
  9259. eating 100% plant-based
  9260.  
  9261. 1941
  9262. 01:20:03,265 --> 01:20:05,000
  9263. would still seem extreme.
  9264.  
  9265. 1942
  9266. 01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:07,802
  9267. - I think, there's the
  9268. sense that everything's okay
  9269.  
  9270. 1943
  9271. 01:20:07,802 --> 01:20:10,071
  9272. in moderation, right?
  9273.  
  9274. 1944
  9275. 01:20:10,071 --> 01:20:14,342
  9276. But we haven't seen
  9277. that moderation works.
  9278.  
  9279. 1945
  9280. 01:20:14,342 --> 01:20:15,710
  9281. There really isn't
  9282. a study that shows
  9283.  
  9284. 1946
  9285. 01:20:15,710 --> 01:20:18,446
  9286. that by eating meat
  9287. and eggs in moderation,
  9288.  
  9289. 1947
  9290. 01:20:18,446 --> 01:20:20,182
  9291. you can actually turn
  9292. your heart disease around
  9293.  
  9294. 1948
  9295. 01:20:20,182 --> 01:20:21,650
  9296. and get better.
  9297.  
  9298. 1949
  9299. 01:20:21,650 --> 01:20:22,851
  9300. - [Kip] But I know people
  9301. who have given up meat
  9302.  
  9303. 1950
  9304. 01:20:22,851 --> 01:20:24,319
  9305. and they felt sick.
  9306.  
  9307. 1951
  9308. 01:20:24,319 --> 01:20:26,755
  9309. - It's unlikely that
  9310. anybody's symptoms
  9311.  
  9312. 1952
  9313. 01:20:26,755 --> 01:20:29,658
  9314. are caused by a dead
  9315. decaying flesh deficiency.
  9316.  
  9317. 1953
  9318. 01:20:29,658 --> 01:20:32,894
  9319. The lack of highly processed
  9320. animal food products
  9321.  
  9322. 1954
  9323. 01:20:32,894 --> 01:20:34,996
  9324. in the diet is not
  9325. gonna be associated
  9326.  
  9327. 1955
  9328. 01:20:34,996 --> 01:20:37,332
  9329. with the causal factor
  9330. about why there is that.
  9331.  
  9332. 1956
  9333. 01:20:37,332 --> 01:20:39,367
  9334. There is gonna be a reason
  9335. why they're not feeling well
  9336.  
  9337. 1957
  9338. 01:20:39,367 --> 01:20:40,835
  9339. but that's not gonna
  9340. be one of them.
  9341.  
  9342. 1958
  9343. 01:20:40,835 --> 01:20:42,704
  9344. - So, I've had people go
  9345. vegan and they come back to me
  9346.  
  9347. 1959
  9348. 01:20:42,704 --> 01:20:44,339
  9349. and they're like,
  9350. "I'm hypothyroid
  9351.  
  9352. 1960
  9353. 01:20:44,339 --> 01:20:45,874
  9354. "and my doctor says
  9355. I'm hypothyroid
  9356.  
  9357. 1961
  9358. 01:20:45,874 --> 01:20:50,445
  9359. "because plant-based diet
  9360. makes you hypothyroid."
  9361.  
  9362. 1962
  9363. 01:20:50,445 --> 01:20:52,280
  9364. I'm like, so, what is
  9365. your doctor tell all
  9366.  
  9367. 1963
  9368. 01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:54,115
  9369. his meat-eaters that
  9370. are hypothyroid?
  9371.  
  9372. 1964
  9373. 01:20:54,115 --> 01:20:55,784
  9374. - [Kip] What was in
  9375. animal flesh or dairy
  9376.  
  9377. 1965
  9378. 01:20:55,784 --> 01:20:58,553
  9379. that you can't get
  9380. in plant-based?
  9381.  
  9382. 1966
  9383. 01:20:58,553 --> 01:21:02,057
  9384. - Cholesterol, heterocyclic
  9385. amines, E-coli.
  9386.  
  9387. 1967
  9388. 01:21:03,692 --> 01:21:04,960
  9389. You know, if you think about it,
  9390.  
  9391. 1968
  9392. 01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:07,729
  9393. there is nothing in
  9394. an animal-based diet
  9395.  
  9396. 1969
  9397. 01:21:07,729 --> 01:21:10,932
  9398. that you can't get in the
  9399. healthier form somewhere else.
  9400.  
  9401. 1970
  9402. 01:21:10,932 --> 01:21:13,535
  9403. - I think, only other
  9404. vitamin is vitamin B12,
  9405.  
  9406. 1971
  9407. 01:21:13,535 --> 01:21:15,737
  9408. it's not made by plants,
  9409. not made by animals either,
  9410.  
  9411. 1972
  9412. 01:21:15,737 --> 01:21:17,772
  9413. made by a little microbes
  9414. that blanket the earth.
  9415.  
  9416. 1973
  9417. 01:21:17,772 --> 01:21:20,542
  9418. Because the way we live
  9419. in unsanitized world,
  9420.  
  9421. 1974
  9422. 01:21:20,542 --> 01:21:23,645
  9423. unless you're eating
  9424. bacteria-contaminated foods,
  9425.  
  9426. 1975
  9427. 01:21:23,645 --> 01:21:25,547
  9428. we need to get a source
  9429. of B12 from somewhere,
  9430.  
  9431. 1976
  9432. 01:21:25,547 --> 01:21:28,316
  9433. so, the healthiest,
  9434. cheapest, safest source
  9435.  
  9436. 1977
  9437. 01:21:28,316 --> 01:21:30,685
  9438. is getting vitamin
  9439. B12 fortified food
  9440.  
  9441. 1978
  9442. 01:21:30,685 --> 01:21:32,020
  9443. or vitamin B12 supplement,
  9444.  
  9445. 1979
  9446. 01:21:32,020 --> 01:21:34,022
  9447. not to get it from
  9448. meat and dairy.
  9449.  
  9450. 1980
  9451. 01:21:34,022 --> 01:21:35,523
  9452. - [Kip] What about people
  9453. who say they have to eat meat
  9454.  
  9455. 1981
  9456. 01:21:35,523 --> 01:21:38,827
  9457. for their blood
  9458. type or their genes?
  9459.  
  9460. 1982
  9461. 01:21:38,827 --> 01:21:41,796
  9462. - It's like, "I need meat
  9463. because I'm a Capricorn,"
  9464.  
  9465. 1983
  9466. 01:21:41,796 --> 01:21:43,298
  9467. "I need meat 'cause I
  9468. have an A plus blood."
  9469.  
  9470. 1984
  9471. 01:21:43,298 --> 01:21:44,399
  9472. It's like, what do you say?
  9473.  
  9474. 1985
  9475. 01:21:44,399 --> 01:21:46,201
  9476. No one has to eat meat.
  9477.  
  9478. 1986
  9479. 01:21:46,201 --> 01:21:48,303
  9480. There's not vitamin,
  9481. mineral, nutrient
  9482.  
  9483. 1987
  9484. 01:21:48,303 --> 01:21:51,973
  9485. that you can't get from
  9486. non-animal sources.
  9487.  
  9488. 1988
  9489. 01:21:51,973 --> 01:21:55,210
  9490. - Valentine's Day, I've
  9491. decided to go vegan
  9492.  
  9493. 1989
  9494. 01:21:55,210 --> 01:21:58,480
  9495. and give up all
  9496. meat, which was never
  9497.  
  9498. 1990
  9499. 01:21:58,480 --> 01:22:00,715
  9500. in my thoughts in a
  9501. while, million years,
  9502.  
  9503. 1991
  9504. 01:22:00,715 --> 01:22:04,119
  9505. but I've heard so much success
  9506. from people that are vegan.
  9507.  
  9508. 1992
  9509. 01:22:04,119 --> 01:22:07,188
  9510. So, I gave up all animal
  9511. product whatsoever,
  9512.  
  9513. 1993
  9514. 01:22:07,188 --> 01:22:11,359
  9515. I've lost 29 pounds, I've been
  9516. able to cut my med in half.
  9517.  
  9518. 1994
  9519. 01:22:12,527 --> 01:22:14,663
  9520. I've been able to cut
  9521. my insulin in half
  9522.  
  9523. 1995
  9524. 01:22:14,663 --> 01:22:16,698
  9525. and now, I'm going for the moon.
  9526.  
  9527. 1996
  9528. 01:22:16,698 --> 01:22:18,233
  9529. I'm gonna go cut it all out.
  9530.  
  9531. 1997
  9532. 01:22:18,233 --> 01:22:21,236
  9533. In the last six weeks, we've
  9534. just had three grandchildren
  9535.  
  9536. 1998
  9537. 01:22:21,236 --> 01:22:23,271
  9538. and my ugly face
  9539. is gonna be around
  9540.  
  9541. 1999
  9542. 01:22:23,271 --> 01:22:25,807
  9543. to see them graduate from
  9544. high school and college.
  9545.  
  9546. 2000
  9547. 01:22:25,807 --> 01:22:27,075
  9548. I'm gonna be here.
  9549.  
  9550. 2001
  9551. 01:22:27,075 --> 01:22:28,610
  9552. - My mission is to
  9553. let everybody know
  9554.  
  9555. 2002
  9556. 01:22:28,610 --> 01:22:32,647
  9557. you do not have to suffer
  9558. from diabetes and cancer,
  9559.  
  9560. 2003
  9561. 01:22:32,647 --> 01:22:34,949
  9562. and heart disease because
  9563. someone in your family had it
  9564.  
  9565. 2004
  9566. 01:22:34,949 --> 01:22:36,618
  9567. or because the doctors
  9568. are telling you,
  9569.  
  9570. 2005
  9571. 01:22:36,618 --> 01:22:38,486
  9572. this is what's gonna happen.
  9573.  
  9574. 2006
  9575. 01:22:38,486 --> 01:22:40,255
  9576. You can take charge
  9577. of your health
  9578.  
  9579. 2007
  9580. 01:22:40,255 --> 01:22:43,825
  9581. and have a positive
  9582. outcome just like I did.
  9583.  
  9584. 2008
  9585. 01:22:43,825 --> 01:22:46,761
  9586. The reason I'm so
  9587. committed to this is...
  9588.  
  9589. 2009
  9590. 01:22:46,761 --> 01:22:48,830
  9591. My grandmother had diabetes,
  9592.  
  9593. 2010
  9594. 01:22:48,830 --> 01:22:53,468
  9595. and I didn't know what I know
  9596. now about healing the body
  9597.  
  9598. 2011
  9599. 01:22:53,468 --> 01:22:55,970
  9600. and if I did, I feel
  9601. like she could've lived
  9602.  
  9603. 2012
  9604. 01:22:55,970 --> 01:22:57,839
  9605. at least a few years longer.
  9606.  
  9607. 2013
  9608. 01:22:57,839 --> 01:22:59,574
  9609. So, it's in her honor
  9610.  
  9611. 2014
  9612. 01:23:01,843 --> 01:23:03,511
  9613. that I do what I do
  9614.  
  9615. 2015
  9616. 01:23:03,511 --> 01:23:05,246
  9617. 'cause I can save someone
  9618. else's grandmother,
  9619.  
  9620. 2016
  9621. 01:23:05,246 --> 01:23:08,583
  9622. aunt, uncle, father
  9623. from that, you know.
  9624.  
  9625. 2017
  9626. 01:23:10,952 --> 01:23:13,288
  9627. So,
  9628.  
  9629. 2018
  9630. 01:23:14,622 --> 01:23:18,326
  9631. so, I'm excited about getting
  9632. the message out there.
  9633.  
  9634. 2019
  9635. 01:23:18,326 --> 01:23:19,427
  9636. - [Kip] There's a common belief
  9637.  
  9638. 2020
  9639. 01:23:19,427 --> 01:23:21,463
  9640. that eating plant-based
  9641. is expensive.
  9642.  
  9643. 2021
  9644. 01:23:21,463 --> 01:23:22,731
  9645. - Not at all.
  9646.  
  9647. 2022
  9648. 01:23:22,731 --> 01:23:25,734
  9649. It can be done in a
  9650. very inexpensive way
  9651.  
  9652. 2023
  9653. 01:23:25,734 --> 01:23:28,103
  9654. where you buy foods
  9655. that are in season
  9656.  
  9657. 2024
  9658. 01:23:28,103 --> 01:23:32,173
  9659. and you shop in the bulk bins
  9660. and that saves a lot of money.
  9661.  
  9662. 2025
  9663. 01:23:32,173 --> 01:23:35,043
  9664. You can eliminate a
  9665. lot of your expenses
  9666.  
  9667. 2026
  9668. 01:23:35,043 --> 01:23:38,179
  9669. on your grocery bill by
  9670. not buying meat and dairy
  9671.  
  9672. 2027
  9673. 01:23:38,179 --> 01:23:40,348
  9674. because these things
  9675. are expensive.
  9676.  
  9677. 2028
  9678. 01:23:40,348 --> 01:23:42,550
  9679. Our meal plan for
  9680. a family of four
  9681.  
  9682. 2029
  9683. 01:23:42,550 --> 01:23:45,453
  9684. is $25 per person in the family.
  9685.  
  9686. 2030
  9687. 01:23:45,453 --> 01:23:47,288
  9688. - 20.64 is your total.
  9689.  
  9690. 2031
  9691. 01:23:48,256 --> 01:23:49,858
  9692. - [Kip] 20.64, whoa!
  9693.  
  9694. 2032
  9695. 01:23:49,858 --> 01:23:51,226
  9696. That's her entire week of food.
  9697.  
  9698. 2033
  9699. 01:23:51,226 --> 01:23:52,660
  9700. - [Cashier] Really?
  9701.  
  9702. 2034
  9703. 01:23:52,660 --> 01:23:54,329
  9704. - [Kip] An exploding
  9705. movement of elite athletes
  9706.  
  9707. 2035
  9708. 01:23:54,329 --> 01:23:56,531
  9709. are utilizing vegan
  9710. diets to heal injuries,
  9711.  
  9712. 2036
  9713. 01:23:56,531 --> 01:23:59,801
  9714. speed recovery times and
  9715. enhance their performance.
  9716.  
  9717. 2037
  9718. 01:23:59,801 --> 01:24:01,069
  9719. - Before I was vegan,
  9720.  
  9721. 2038
  9722. 01:24:01,069 --> 01:24:04,539
  9723. I was only benchpressing
  9724. 315 like five times.
  9725.  
  9726. 2039
  9727. 01:24:04,539 --> 01:24:05,807
  9728. Then, after going vegan,
  9729.  
  9730. 2040
  9731. 01:24:05,807 --> 01:24:07,976
  9732. I was doing 400, 425, 465.
  9733.  
  9734. 2041
  9735. 01:24:09,944 --> 01:24:11,946
  9736. And I was like, oh my
  9737. god, this is amazing.
  9738.  
  9739. 2042
  9740. 01:24:11,946 --> 01:24:15,016
  9741. I'm vegan and I'm
  9742. benchpressing 465 pounds.
  9743.  
  9744. 2043
  9745. 01:24:15,016 --> 01:24:16,184
  9746. This is ridiculous.
  9747.  
  9748. 2044
  9749. 01:24:16,184 --> 01:24:17,452
  9750. And as soon as I went vegan,
  9751.  
  9752. 2045
  9753. 01:24:17,452 --> 01:24:19,154
  9754. tendonitis started disappearing.
  9755.  
  9756. 2046
  9757. 01:24:19,154 --> 01:24:21,322
  9758. My strength in my right
  9759. arm start coming back.
  9760.  
  9761. 2047
  9762. 01:24:21,322 --> 01:24:23,024
  9763. High blood pressure
  9764. was going down.
  9765.  
  9766. 2048
  9767. 01:24:23,024 --> 01:24:26,761
  9768. You can't be strong and
  9769. be dying on the hindsight,
  9770.  
  9771. 2049
  9772. 01:24:26,761 --> 01:24:29,964
  9773. that's not strong, that's
  9774. weak, that's really weak
  9775.  
  9776. 2050
  9777. 01:24:29,964 --> 01:24:32,000
  9778. because you look big and
  9779. strong in the outside,
  9780.  
  9781. 2051
  9782. 01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:35,170
  9783. yeah, big man, no, but your
  9784. heart's crying for help.
  9785.  
  9786. 2052
  9787. 01:24:35,170 --> 01:24:37,338
  9788. On the inside, you're dying.
  9789.  
  9790. 2053
  9791. 01:24:37,338 --> 01:24:39,441
  9792. - I'm a professional
  9793. parkour athlete,
  9794.  
  9795. 2054
  9796. 01:24:39,441 --> 01:24:40,942
  9797. two-time world
  9798. freerunning champion.
  9799.  
  9800. 2055
  9801. 01:24:40,942 --> 01:24:42,744
  9802. More recently, I got
  9803. into Ninja Warrior
  9804.  
  9805. 2056
  9806. 01:24:42,744 --> 01:24:43,912
  9807. where I'm captain of Team Europe
  9808.  
  9809. 2057
  9810. 01:24:43,912 --> 01:24:46,448
  9811. as we won USA versus the world.
  9812.  
  9813. 2058
  9814. 01:24:46,448 --> 01:24:49,050
  9815. For something like Ninja Warrior
  9816. and parkour specifically,
  9817.  
  9818. 2059
  9819. 01:24:49,050 --> 01:24:52,287
  9820. you really need to have good
  9821. strength to body weight ratio.
  9822.  
  9823. 2060
  9824. 01:24:52,287 --> 01:24:54,222
  9825. So, I was carrying massive,
  9826. I really didn't need
  9827.  
  9828. 2061
  9829. 01:24:54,222 --> 01:24:56,458
  9830. and when I went vegan,
  9831. I lost 15, 20 pounds,
  9832.  
  9833. 2062
  9834. 01:24:56,458 --> 01:24:58,460
  9835. I was more agile, I
  9836. was more efficient,
  9837.  
  9838. 2063
  9839. 01:24:58,460 --> 01:24:59,994
  9840. and more stamina in my body,
  9841.  
  9842. 2064
  9843. 01:24:59,994 --> 01:25:01,863
  9844. just that extra bit of pop
  9845. that I didn't have before,
  9846.  
  9847. 2065
  9848. 01:25:01,863 --> 01:25:03,598
  9849. it just gave that
  9850. extra strength.
  9851.  
  9852. 2066
  9853. 01:25:03,598 --> 01:25:05,867
  9854. This is a very
  9855. vibrant way to live.
  9856.  
  9857. 2067
  9858. 01:25:05,867 --> 01:25:07,802
  9859. It can enhance
  9860. you as an athlete.
  9861.  
  9862. 2068
  9863. 01:25:07,802 --> 01:25:10,605
  9864. For me, 100% better
  9865. athlete than I was before.
  9866.  
  9867. 2069
  9868. 01:25:10,605 --> 01:25:13,074
  9869. It unlocks a whole new
  9870. chapter of my training.
  9871.  
  9872. 2070
  9873. 01:25:13,074 --> 01:25:14,509
  9874. The science is that,
  9875. the health is that
  9876.  
  9877. 2071
  9878. 01:25:14,509 --> 01:25:15,743
  9879. the athletes, they're
  9880. proving that you don't need
  9881.  
  9882. 2072
  9883. 01:25:15,743 --> 01:25:18,913
  9884. to eat dead animals to
  9885. be strong to be healthy.
  9886.  
  9887. 2073
  9888. 01:25:18,913 --> 01:25:21,616
  9889. - I started working out
  9890. when I was 47 years old.
  9891.  
  9892. 2074
  9893. 01:25:21,616 --> 01:25:25,086
  9894. All that muscles you
  9895. see, I gained as vegan,
  9896.  
  9897. 2075
  9898. 01:25:25,086 --> 01:25:27,655
  9899. I gained 15 pounds of
  9900. muscles on my body.
  9901.  
  9902. 2076
  9903. 01:25:27,655 --> 01:25:29,657
  9904. Eating all plant-based
  9905. vegan foods.
  9906.  
  9907. 2077
  9908. 01:25:29,657 --> 01:25:33,561
  9909. All the aches and pains in
  9910. my body, it just went away
  9911.  
  9912. 2078
  9913. 01:25:33,561 --> 01:25:37,098
  9914. because I'm not ingesting
  9915. so many inflamed foods,
  9916.  
  9917. 2079
  9918. 01:25:37,098 --> 01:25:39,334
  9919. the acidic foods that
  9920. animal products are.
  9921.  
  9922. 2080
  9923. 01:25:39,334 --> 01:25:41,002
  9924. Gorillas, rhinos, and elephants,
  9925.  
  9926. 2081
  9927. 01:25:41,002 --> 01:25:44,939
  9928. they all get their muscles and
  9929. strength from eating plants.
  9930.  
  9931. 2082
  9932. 01:25:44,939 --> 01:25:46,341
  9933. That's what I do.
  9934.  
  9935. 2083
  9936. 01:25:46,341 --> 01:25:49,444
  9937. - I travel all around
  9938. the world for my surfing
  9939.  
  9940. 2084
  9941. 01:25:49,444 --> 01:25:51,880
  9942. and I've always been
  9943. able to eat vegan.
  9944.  
  9945. 2085
  9946. 01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:54,415
  9947. I feel like if you
  9948. want something,
  9949.  
  9950. 2086
  9951. 01:25:54,415 --> 01:25:55,650
  9952. then you can make it happen.
  9953.  
  9954. 2087
  9955. 01:25:55,650 --> 01:25:57,285
  9956. I just don't make any excuses.
  9957.  
  9958. 2088
  9959. 01:25:57,285 --> 01:26:00,321
  9960. I would never not be vegan now
  9961. that I know all the benefits
  9962.  
  9963. 2089
  9964. 01:26:00,321 --> 01:26:02,790
  9965. and now that I know how
  9966. it feels to be vegan.
  9967.  
  9968. 2090
  9969. 01:26:02,790 --> 01:26:04,726
  9970. - Every aspect of my
  9971. life has been improved
  9972.  
  9973. 2091
  9974. 01:26:04,726 --> 01:26:06,828
  9975. by adopting this lifestyle.
  9976.  
  9977. 2092
  9978. 01:26:06,828 --> 01:26:09,631
  9979. I feel better, I perform
  9980. better athletically,
  9981.  
  9982. 2093
  9983. 01:26:09,631 --> 01:26:12,667
  9984. I sleep better, my energy
  9985. with my kids is better,
  9986.  
  9987. 2094
  9988. 01:26:12,667 --> 01:26:15,303
  9989. my focus at work is better,
  9990. everything is better.
  9991.  
  9992. 2095
  9993. 01:26:15,303 --> 01:26:17,572
  9994. My skin cleared
  9995. up, cut myself trim
  9996.  
  9997. 2096
  9998. 01:26:17,572 --> 01:26:19,908
  9999. for nine years now doing this.
  10000.  
  10001. 2097
  10002. 01:26:19,908 --> 01:26:22,243
  10003. All I can tell
  10004. you is that I felt
  10005.  
  10006. 2098
  10007. 01:26:22,243 --> 01:26:26,581
  10008. and I continue to feel better
  10009. than I ever felt before.
  10010.  
  10011. 2099
  10012. 01:26:26,581 --> 01:26:28,383
  10013. My friend, Jason Lester
  10014. and I were the first people
  10015.  
  10016. 2100
  10017. 01:26:28,383 --> 01:26:31,786
  10018. to do this challenge
  10019. called EPIC5
  10020.  
  10021. 2101
  10022. 01:26:31,786 --> 01:26:33,788
  10023. which entail doing five ironmans
  10024.  
  10025. 2102
  10026. 01:26:33,788 --> 01:26:36,491
  10027. on five Hawaiian
  10028. islands in our group.
  10029.  
  10030. 2103
  10031. 01:26:36,491 --> 01:26:38,459
  10032. An ironman is a 2.4-mile swim
  10033.  
  10034. 2104
  10035. 01:26:38,459 --> 01:26:40,461
  10036. followed by 112-mile bike,
  10037.  
  10038. 2105
  10039. 01:26:40,461 --> 01:26:44,465
  10040. and then running a marathon,
  10041. 26.2 miles after that.
  10042.  
  10043. 2106
  10044. 01:26:44,465 --> 01:26:45,967
  10045. So, we did five
  10046. of those in a row
  10047.  
  10048. 2107
  10049. 01:26:45,967 --> 01:26:49,470
  10050. on five different islands
  10051. and in little under a week.
  10052.  
  10053. 2108
  10054. 01:26:49,470 --> 01:26:50,605
  10055. - Yeah, you almost die?
  10056.  
  10057. 2109
  10058. 01:26:50,605 --> 01:26:52,340
  10059. - Yeah, die.
  10060.  
  10061. 2110
  10062. 01:26:52,340 --> 01:26:53,541
  10063. - So, I guess the
  10064. famous question,
  10065.  
  10066. 2111
  10067. 01:26:53,541 --> 01:26:55,310
  10068. where did you get your
  10069. protein?
  10070.  
  10071. 2112
  10072. 01:26:55,310 --> 01:26:59,314
  10073. - From plants.
  10074.  
  10075. 2113
  10076. 01:26:59,314 --> 01:27:01,215
  10077. - [Kip] Like so many people,
  10078. I was looking for excuses
  10079.  
  10080. 2114
  10081. 01:27:01,215 --> 01:27:03,885
  10082. not to change my diet
  10083. but once I finally did,
  10084.  
  10085. 2115
  10086. 01:27:03,885 --> 01:27:05,420
  10087. I felt liberated.
  10088.  
  10089. 2116
  10090. 01:27:05,420 --> 01:27:07,789
  10091. Within days, I could feel the
  10092. blood running through my veins
  10093.  
  10094. 2117
  10095. 01:27:07,789 --> 01:27:09,190
  10096. with a new vitality.
  10097.  
  10098. 2118
  10099. 01:27:09,190 --> 01:27:10,925
  10100. Within weeks, I felt
  10101. a transformation
  10102.  
  10103. 2119
  10104. 01:27:10,925 --> 01:27:13,328
  10105. throughout my entire
  10106. body and mind.
  10107.  
  10108. 2120
  10109. 01:27:13,328 --> 01:27:16,564
  10110. Not only could I survive on a
  10111. purely plant-based vegan diet,
  10112.  
  10113. 2121
  10114. 01:27:16,564 --> 01:27:19,100
  10115. I could thrive, I felt amazing.
  10116.  
  10117. 2122
  10118. 01:27:19,100 --> 01:27:22,070
  10119. I competed my first
  10120. marathon in six years
  10121.  
  10122. 2123
  10123. 01:27:22,070 --> 01:27:23,304
  10124. training half the amount
  10125.  
  10126. 2124
  10127. 01:27:23,304 --> 01:27:25,873
  10128. and beat my personal
  10129. record by 23 minutes.
  10130.  
  10131. 2125
  10132. 01:27:25,873 --> 01:27:29,143
  10133. Less than a month later, I
  10134. did my first full ironman.
  10135.  
  10136. 2126
  10137. 01:27:29,143 --> 01:27:30,545
  10138. Although I could
  10139. possibly get away
  10140.  
  10141. 2127
  10142. 01:27:30,545 --> 01:27:32,280
  10143. with eating a little
  10144. bit of meat and dairy
  10145.  
  10146. 2128
  10147. 01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:34,415
  10148. without ill effects
  10149. to my personal health,
  10150.  
  10151. 2129
  10152. 01:27:34,415 --> 01:27:36,351
  10153. I could no longer willingly
  10154. support an industry
  10155.  
  10156. 2130
  10157. 01:27:36,351 --> 01:27:39,020
  10158. I knew was causing so much
  10159. suffering to communities,
  10160.  
  10161. 2131
  10162. 01:27:39,020 --> 01:27:41,823
  10163. families, and all
  10164. life on the planet.
  10165.  
  10166. 2132
  10167. 01:27:41,823 --> 01:27:45,126
  10168. A whole new world opened
  10169. up, I felt whole again,
  10170.  
  10171. 2133
  10172. 01:27:45,126 --> 01:27:47,862
  10173. connected to a greater
  10174. sense of what true health is
  10175.  
  10176. 2134
  10177. 01:27:47,862 --> 01:27:50,298
  10178. and where true health
  10179. doesn't end with me
  10180.  
  10181. 2135
  10182. 01:27:50,298 --> 01:27:51,866
  10183. but begins with us.
  10184.  
  10185. 2136
  10186. 01:27:53,501 --> 01:27:55,903
  10187. - If people adopted
  10188. a plant-based diet,
  10189.  
  10190. 2137
  10191. 01:27:55,903 --> 01:28:00,842
  10192. the changes we would see
  10193. in our individual health,
  10194.  
  10195. 2138
  10196. 01:28:00,842 --> 01:28:02,810
  10197. in our national
  10198. health situation,
  10199.  
  10200. 2139
  10201. 01:28:02,810 --> 01:28:06,047
  10202. and in this physical
  10203. environmental world we live in
  10204.  
  10205. 2140
  10206. 01:28:06,047 --> 01:28:08,316
  10207. would be so profound.
  10208.  
  10209. 2141
  10210. 01:28:08,316 --> 01:28:11,019
  10211. - I mean, today, you can say,
  10212.  
  10213. 2142
  10214. 01:28:11,019 --> 01:28:13,054
  10215. "I'm not gonna eat
  10216. that stuff anymore.
  10217.  
  10218. 2143
  10219. 01:28:13,054 --> 01:28:16,691
  10220. "It's one thing that I
  10221. can do myself personally
  10222.  
  10223. 2144
  10224. 01:28:16,691 --> 01:28:18,092
  10225. "to make a difference."
  10226.  
  10227. 2145
  10228. 01:28:18,092 --> 01:28:19,627
  10229. - It will give you a
  10230. greater sense of well-being
  10231.  
  10232. 2146
  10233. 01:28:19,627 --> 01:28:22,030
  10234. and happiness when
  10235. you know that one,
  10236.  
  10237. 2147
  10238. 01:28:22,030 --> 01:28:23,698
  10239. you're not destroying
  10240. your health
  10241.  
  10242. 2148
  10243. 01:28:23,698 --> 01:28:24,932
  10244. every time you sit down to eat,
  10245.  
  10246. 2149
  10247. 01:28:24,932 --> 01:28:26,668
  10248. you're not promoting cruelty,
  10249.  
  10250. 2150
  10251. 01:28:26,668 --> 01:28:28,302
  10252. and you're not
  10253. damaging the Earth.
  10254.  
  10255. 2151
  10256. 01:28:28,302 --> 01:28:30,171
  10257. - I don't want my gains
  10258. to be at the detriment
  10259.  
  10260. 2152
  10261. 01:28:30,171 --> 01:28:31,706
  10262. of the planet of other things
  10263.  
  10264. 2153
  10265. 01:28:31,706 --> 01:28:33,641
  10266. and yet, I'm not
  10267. weaker, I'm stronger.
  10268.  
  10269. 2154
  10270. 01:28:33,641 --> 01:28:34,909
  10271. That's the beauty of it.
  10272.  
  10273. 2155
  10274. 01:28:34,909 --> 01:28:36,144
  10275. When you all twist and
  10276. when you make choices
  10277.  
  10278. 2156
  10279. 01:28:36,144 --> 01:28:37,912
  10280. for the great good of
  10281. others, it comes around,
  10282.  
  10283. 2157
  10284. 01:28:37,912 --> 01:28:39,781
  10285. benefits as well,
  10286. benefits us all.
  10287.  
  10288. 2158
  10289. 01:28:39,781 --> 01:28:42,150
  10290. - Studies show that
  10291. we cannot only survive
  10292.  
  10293. 2159
  10294. 01:28:42,150 --> 01:28:43,384
  10295. but we can thrive.
  10296.  
  10297. 2160
  10298. 01:28:43,384 --> 01:28:45,987
  10299. - I just feel this is
  10300. a great way to live.
  10301.  
  10302. 2161
  10303. 01:28:45,987 --> 01:28:47,622
  10304. Not harm the other beings
  10305.  
  10306. 2162
  10307. 01:28:47,622 --> 01:28:49,924
  10308. when we can be
  10309. healthy and happier.
  10310.  
  10311. 2163
  10312. 01:28:49,924 --> 01:28:52,860
  10313. I love it, it's a great life.
  10314.  
  10315. 2164
  10316. 01:28:52,860 --> 01:28:56,097
  10317. - I never thought that I could
  10318. feel this good at this age
  10319.  
  10320. 2165
  10321. 01:28:56,097 --> 01:28:58,433
  10322. and I just want everybody
  10323. to feel this way.
  10324.  
  10325. 2166
  10326. 01:28:58,433 --> 01:29:01,202
  10327. I feel like a 20-year-old,
  10328. I'm almost 50.
  10329.  
  10330. 2167
  10331. 01:29:01,202 --> 01:29:04,839
  10332. - Nothing tastes as good as
  10333. health, it feels basically.
  10334.  
  10335. 2168
  10336. 01:29:04,839 --> 01:29:07,108
  10337. - And so, the choices that
  10338. we make every single day,
  10339.  
  10340. 2169
  10341. 01:29:07,108 --> 01:29:09,310
  10342. day in and day out
  10343. around our food
  10344.  
  10345. 2170
  10346. 01:29:09,310 --> 01:29:13,448
  10347. has the capacity to bring us
  10348. true health, optimal wellness,
  10349.  
  10350. 2171
  10351. 01:29:13,448 --> 01:29:16,150
  10352. not just individually
  10353. but collectively
  10354.  
  10355. 2172
  10356. 01:29:16,150 --> 01:29:18,586
  10357. as species and for our planet.
  10358.  
  10359. 2173
  10360. 01:29:18,586 --> 01:29:20,922
  10361. - We're not gonna live forever
  10362.  
  10363. 2174
  10364. 01:29:20,922 --> 01:29:23,491
  10365. but while we are alive,
  10366. we can live well.
  10367.  
  10368. 2175
  10369. 01:29:23,491 --> 01:29:26,027
  10370. And, for me, as a doctor,
  10371. that's what I wanna see.
  10372.  
  10373. 2176
  10374. 01:29:26,027 --> 01:29:29,697
  10375. - Where there's a
  10376. will, there is a way,
  10377.  
  10378. 2177
  10379. 01:29:29,697 --> 01:29:31,265
  10380. and I believe that.
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