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- Hiker Nob Any% Route Time Saves
- TIMELOSS
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- + 20 Fight Hiker Nob instead of Youngster Timmy
- + 3.5 Seconds Lost to early Hideout Candy
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- Optional Timeloss
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- + 9.1 Carbos Timeless (For use on Blaine)
- + 1.58 if you Water Pulse* the Lass 1st Oddish instead of Mega Kick (Worth the 80% range vs. 75% to hit)
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- Total Timeloss
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- + 23.5 w/o Water Pulse
- + 25.08 /w Water Pulse (Optional)
- + 32.6 /w Carbos w/o Water Pulse
- + 34.18 /w Carbos + Water Pulse (Optional)
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- TIMESAVE
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- - 2.1 for 2nd Bite on Sandshrew (Guaranteed Ranges)
- - 2.93 to 1 Shot Koga
- - 3.2 level 30 for First Slowpoke (More favorable range 60%)
- - .3 for Lv 28 Kadabra (Can speedtie on 28-31)
- - 9.25 total time on Oran Berry
- - 2.44 for the Extra Erika Menu
- - 12.26 if you get Bite Lance (Bite x2, Blizzard) [Now 94-85% /w 30/31]
- - 8.9 Seconds to NOT taking damage from Blaine (X-Speed/Special strats) [22-25 Speed Specifically] (Slightly Less if grabbing Carbos)
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- Optional/Conditional Timesave
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- - 2.44 for the Extra Ether Menu if you need an extra Mega Kick for Raticate (Conditional)
- - 8.5 Ether Skip for Rival 3 (More likely to be able to with 1 less Mega Kick)
- - 1.25 on Super Effective Text on Kadabra (Water Pulse range or Water Gun Torrent Range)
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- GRAND TOTAL
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- 24.8 - 26.38 on average /w Healess Lance + Ether Skip for Rival 3
- 16.3 - 17.88 on average /w Healess Lance
- 12.54 - 14.12 on average /w Healing for Lance + Ether Skip
- 4.04 - 5.62 on average /w Healing for Lance
- Pros
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- Guaranteed Sandshrew Ranges
- Guaranteed Arbok Range /w Torrent Water Pulse
- +3 Rival 4 can be done
- Better Koga Fight (Less likely to die
- More Speeds outspeed Blaine 22+ instead of 26+
- +3 Defense EVs (Shifts most defense damage calcs by +1 IV)
- Slightly Later Levels = Better Ranges (Even More EVs at Important Level Ups)
- Slightly Later Levels = You keep torrent for even longer
- More Consistent Mid Game, Better opportunity
- Guaranteed to stay in Torrent for Erika's Victreebel if you have it for Blaine's Arcanine
- Guaranteed to stay in Torrent for Sabrina's Mr. Mime if you have it for Giovanni's Kanga (Late level up)
- Cons
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- Dugtrio speedties you at 19-20 if you don't grab the Carbos
- Dugtrio Speedties you at 18 if you don't grab the Carbos + fight Youngster Joey
- Koga Range is only 60%
- 29 SPA makes Voltorb a 60% range /w WP instead of 80%
- Viridian Rival is a 15/16 /w 30/31 SPA 14/16 with 28/29
- Mixed
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- Not level 45 for Silph Co Rival's Gyarados (68% range if you go for +2 on Pidgeot)
- This is fixed by only using 1 X Special on Silph Rival (Basically the same fight)
- Rival's Gyarados isn't guaranteed to put you in deep torrent but this is the best way to make this work
- Route Notes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fIyYVKvQLwvxsl6cYIjYjbL4ClhfOTeU24rerrbaMAg/edit
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