Emma's Type Me

emma - 05/22/2018
bc like
i mean
idk
Krayfish - 05/22/2018
Lol
emma - 05/22/2018
im still not sure
Michiel zmivh - 05/22/2018
i'll gonna read this later :eyes:
Krayfish - 05/22/2018
I got you
How about your feelings towards authority?
Are you more agreeable or more intolerant about being directed and why?
@Jerdle  btw I'm not discounting what your saying sorry if it came across that way, I was just reading back what I wrote and I think I might be coming across that way
Sorry if it came across that way
Also to emma would you ever consider yourself as neurotic?(edited)
emma - 05/22/2018
i'm intolerant, but not outwardly
like uhh
i hate being directed or bossed around, but i always find a way to weasel out of it without making a big deal out of it
so i won't comply but i'm not loud about it
and i'm not sure why i do it,,, maybe it's bc i don't like conflict? or because i don't want people to be mad at me?
i wouldn't consider myself aggressive/very assertive in person
Krayfish - 05/22/2018
Interesting
emma - 05/22/2018
also yes sometimes
Krayfish - 05/22/2018
Some of this definitely seems to hint that 6w7 (or even 7) may be above the 3 fix even though your questionnaire came across super 3
6w7 3w4 1w2 might be possible, though I'd probably agree with Jerdle that a 7w6 fix certainly isn't out of the question because of that one response, as well as some of your questionnaire responses(edited)
I think 6 core would be a bit more likely than 371 though
emma - 05/22/2018
ohhh i see
which parts hint at 6 core?
Krayfish - 05/22/2018
Your response to being trapped individuality, as I feel as though a 3w4 might have been somewhat more responsive to individuality, and what you said about disintegration and integration seems to align with theory pretty well.
In your questionnaire I caught onto a lot of 7-esque stuff as well, but felt pretty strongly that you would have a 6 fix in the end regardless
emma - 05/22/2018
yeah! i dont see like 6 integration/9 disintegration for me tbh?
oh yeah
so 6w7 makes sense
Krayfish - 05/22/2018
I see
emma - 05/22/2018
and tbh a lot of my 3 traits could come from being soc dom??
Krayfish - 05/22/2018
That's what I was thinking too
emma - 05/22/2018
making it appear stronger due to them being sort of similar?
Krayfish - 05/22/2018
With contraflow too, usually the first instinct is really prominent anyhow, and SO influence is often mistaken as heart first
emma - 05/22/2018
YEAH EXACTLY!
i actually mistook being soc dom for being an fe dom for a long time
bc many fe descriptions are literally so descriptions?
Krayfish - 05/22/2018
I definitely get that
I'm sp/so and I initially mistook my so influence for high (and I guess the presence) of Fe
What do you type as now?
emma - 05/22/2018
yeah!
i type as enfp lol
im pretty sure
although i question it like 7x a day at least
Krayfish - 05/22/2018
Lol I see
Makes sense
emma - 05/22/2018
haha thanks
im glad it makes sense
wait whats your type?
Krayfish - 05/22/2018
Oh lol I have no clue
Maybe INFP, maybe INTP, probably 1 core
emma - 05/22/2018
HAHAHAHA ME
ohhh i see
emma - 05/22/2018
i mean superficially you vibe as more of an infp to me but obviously i can't know anything for sure
Krayfish - 05/22/2018
Understandable, that seems to be the common consensus anyhow
emma - 05/22/2018
haha yeah!
why do you think intp?
Krayfish - 05/22/2018
Purely because I relate more to the Ti-Fe axis than Fi-Te and I struggle being sentimental and attached to my views, but in socionics I'm definitely Fi-Te so I'm probably INFP to be honest
Michiel zmivh - 05/22/2018
the q reads like 3 from the get go tbh
I'm on question  6 tbh I've never read such image focus before :blobsweat:
emma - 05/22/2018
HAHA YEAH SEE
so i could be core 3?
but also im soc dom @Michiel zmivh
and ohhhh i see @Krayfish
yeah probably! also that can potentially come from smt else? for example, im an fi aux but im not hyper focused on being "different" and  "authentic" and i don't fit into the "not caring what others think" stereotype at all. but that doesn't mean i don't have high fi, it means im soc dom with a strong 3 fix
Michiel zmivh - 05/22/2018
perhaps...but so doesnt only deal with image though, its also the most attuned to sharing
from that q alone I doubt ALL THAT is the so instinct
the so instinct also doesnt account from all the assertive stuffs there
Fallingy Star - 05/22/2018
Also delete memebti function descriptions
emma - 05/22/2018
nono but im not saying i dont have a strong 3 fix(edited)
i know im a 3 but like
idk if it's my core or my second one
so i am image focused
ya know?? @Michiel zmivh
Michiel zmivh - 05/22/2018
im saying that because there's a difference between the so instinct than just 3 or 3 fix y'know
I actually dont see you mentioning any specific soc thing there
image focus can be so but its not the main thing of it
its more connection, network, sharing, etc
so I'd sooner say its 3 rather than so
emma - 05/22/2018
the questionnaire, yeah
Michiel zmivh - 05/22/2018
bcs it IS more 3 than soc
emma - 05/22/2018
but i also think i have dom so
not for reasons i mentioned in the questionnaire, because you're right, it is a lot more 3 than so
Michiel zmivh - 05/22/2018
having a dom soc doesnt retract the 3ness that I see
that q doesnt measure instinct so idk
but like
emma - 05/22/2018
do you think 3 is my core?
Michiel zmivh - 05/22/2018
you dont argue you're not 3 bc you're so-dom lol
emma - 05/22/2018
no i never argued that i'm not 3
Michiel zmivh - 05/22/2018
i mean you can say you're a 6, but why do you think you're a 6 core(edited)
I mean 3 core
what I mean to say is
dont argue you're not a 3 core bc you're a soc dom. say why you might be 6 core instead
emma - 05/22/2018
literally ever since i first found out about mbti i felt like i was a 3 but ive been told by several people that i don't seem very 3-like soo im not sure
i'd still think myself to be a 3 core if it hadn't been for other people influencing my decision
Michiel zmivh - 05/22/2018
hmhm
do they say why they think youre not 3?

emma - 05/22/2018
uhhh hold on
someone sent me this - just. you don’t seem like a 3. too willing to admit flaws, and you don’t take ridiculous pride that much. maybe 4w3 fix and you’re just a 6 disintegrating to 3, i don’t know.
Michiel zmivh - 05/22/2018
i dont think 3 are completely unwilling to admit flaws tbh
denial of flaws I'd argue to be more 2 / 8
how do you "admit flaws" usually
also who is this person to you? like if they're someone close then ofc you're more ready to admit your flaws regardless of whether you're a 3 core or not
emma - 05/22/2018
actually im not very close to them
but also like
when i ask ppl about my mbti i try to be 100% honest because i want super accurate answers
like i wanna be able to understand myself rly well
Michiel zmivh - 05/22/2018
yeah thats understandable
emma - 05/22/2018
and i wouldn't lie about anything
yeah yeah u know
Michiel zmivh - 05/22/2018
yeah
I dont see why that makes you not 3 that way..
but like, aside from other people's opinion you think you might be 6/7?
emma - 05/22/2018
uhhh i could be? i think im 6 fixed but im pretty sure my mom's a 6 core and her general pessimism/worrying just pisses me off and i don't rly think i'm like that
Jerdle - 05/22/2018
Is your mom ISxx?
Evo - 05/22/2018
Hm i find it hard to not see the id/assertive in ya. Plus the outward concern of what people think. 3s attach to that. So unless someone knows your imner thoughts like you've displayed on the q, then they're only going to see the attachment triad.
emma - 05/22/2018
yeah so that could also be a part of it
Evo - 05/22/2018
Like almost every answer was assertive/id triad.
Jerdle - 05/22/2018
1D Ne. I might well be a 6w7 myself, and I'm no worrier.(edited)
emma - 05/22/2018
wait what does assertive/id mean
Evo - 05/22/2018
With an outside image of superego
Jerdle - 05/22/2018
3, 7, 8.
Evo - 05/22/2018
It is a social style. I'll  quote it in a min, brb.
Jerdle - 05/22/2018
They're  about getting what they want, even at the expense of others.(edited)
1, 2, and 6 are superego/compliant, more likely to sacrifice themselves for others.
emma - 05/22/2018
oh nonono
NONONONO
i would never in my life sacrifice myself for others
Michiel zmivh - 05/22/2018
nah thats not how superego/compliant works lol
Jerdle - 05/22/2018
4, 5 and 9 deal with this issue by creating a strong sense of "this is mine, this is yours, now let's not fight".
гири ✌ - 05/22/2018
i thought the whole ego/id/superego was freud stuff :thinking:
wow, am i so wrong that i killed the chat :cold_sweat:
emma - 05/22/2018
JFSKJFDK
idk idk anything rn
im confused
but ik id never sacrifice myself for others,,, does that indicate anything?
Jerdle - 05/22/2018
It's based on Freud, but mixed with Horney and chucked onto the enneagram.
Michiel zmivh - 05/22/2018
I think thats a bit too vague for a specific triad
Jerdle - 05/22/2018
Not 2 or 9.
Michiel zmivh - 05/22/2018
lel I mean I dont sacrifice myself for other people too so :rolling_eyes:
Jerdle - 05/22/2018
Except the occasional 9w8.
Michiel zmivh - 05/22/2018
How do you usually respond when your needs aren’t being met?:
-I insist (until I get what I want).
-I compromise (because something is better than nothing).
-I disengage (and leave for good since there's nothing for me here).
 this question is the hornevian traid basically... it shows how you get your needs
withdrawn types minimizes their needs/disengange (4,5,9)
superego types compromise (1.2.6)
assertive/id types just go after it (3,7,8)
theres nothing about sacrificing themselves for other people for superego types lmao
2 maybe, its not even 1 or 6
emma - 05/22/2018
ohh yeah i go after it for sure
like not in an aggressive way bc i dont want ppl to get mad at me but i need to have my needs met or else i cant take it so i always find a way to get what i want
Michiel zmivh - 05/22/2018
yeah ofc
thats the assertive type
Evo - 05/22/2018
why are you confused
oh
it's because you need descriptions.
one moment..
emma - 05/22/2018
no but im not like
assertive
Evo - 05/22/2018
Assertive triad aka id (yes that's from Freud but Karen Horeny studied under Freud, and they're another way of saying it)
people who take charge and want to make things happen. They get involved in their environment, meeting life head on, unwilling to withdraw from it. These people know what they want and go directly after it. They have a sense of importance and feel that they are central to the important things in their world. When they are stressed, they reinforce their self-importance and push back against obstacles.

These people often see opportunities and try to take advantage of them. They are great for initiating projects, but sometimes have a hard time seeing them through.

These people are out of touch with their own heart. The heart creates an emotional connection with ourselves and with others. It helps us love and appreciate the value of ourselves and others. To compensate this imbalance, these people seek intensity and stimulation (e.g., adventure and risks)

These people insist and demand that their needs (see the Centres) are met.
compare this
to
emma - 05/22/2018
i just find ways to get what i want but not necessarily through assertion
Evo - 05/22/2018
Compliant/superego triad
People whose dominant Social Style is the compliant style are responsible, dedicated and want to do what's expected of them. They will do what they believe is best, even if it means sacrificing their own wants. They are committed to their promises, working hard to finish what they said they would do. They have a hard time relaxing or playing, because there is always work to do (and they would feel guilty resting when there is work to do). They have a sense of being a little superior to others, although this characteristic is very subtle. Under stress, they seek advice from their conscience to determine the right thing to do.

These people work great in groups where the rules or procedures are agreed upon. Within that structure, they work tirelessly.

These people are out of touch with their inner guidance. The inner guidance is a mental quality which effortlessly observes and understands what to believe and what to do. To compensate for this imbalance, these people seek belief systems or rules to help them deal with ambiguity and uncertainty. They consult their rules and beliefs to define their position on issues.

These people try to obey internalized rules and principles to get what they want.
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compared to:
withdrawn triad
People whose dominant Social Style is the withdrawn style are quiet, introverted, and introspective. They enjoy spending lots of time by themselves and feel uncomfortable in large groups. They don't overtly seek attention and don't wish to assert themselves much. The feel uncomfortable taking charge or in competition. Instead, they feel excited by their own imagination. They have a sense of being different from others and not being part of their environment. Under stress, they withdraw from the world and into their inner space and imagination.

These people are not immediately comfortable working in groups and often prefer to work alone. They contemplate and refine their ideas by themselves. They will not present their ideas or assert themselves until they are very confident in their position.

These people are out of touch with their instinctual drives. They have a hard time feeling their vitality and substance. To compensate for this imbalance, they identify more with their fantasies, thoughts, and dreams than with their own physical body.

These people move away from others (withdraw) to get their needs met.
assertive, compliant, and withdrawn are not meant to be used as you would use them colloquially
pretend you've never heard those words before
emma - 05/22/2018
ohhh i see
Evo - 05/22/2018
and go by those descriptions.
emma - 05/22/2018
hm okay let me think
well im DEFINITELY not withdrawn
i'm somewhat torn btwn the first two? bc it depends on my environment like sometimes i'm more the assertive one and sometimes i'm more the compliant on
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Evo - 05/22/2018
yes
that's what i came to the conclusion of
i think you come off primarily assertive according to that. you seem to know exactly what you want and don't seem to have much of a problem getting it
compare that to myself?
i rarely can sift through what i want, i know exactly what  ""have"" to do...
and i make sure that it's ok with everyone or with the rules before i do it
it would bother me immensely if i didn't check first
like lol legit not sleep at night
or like spend six months lamenting over it
because my standards are from external sources
Jerdle - 05/22/2018
I'm somewhere in between. I know what I want, but stay within the rules and so can become inhibited.(edited)
Evo - 05/22/2018
from what i quoted on your q, you seemed to go after you needs easily where for an compliant type like myself,  putting our needs first is really uncomfortable
also keep in mind that i have three compliant types for me tritype
and you're probably feeling a pull towards both because it seems that you have two compliant types in your tritype
so it would make sense that the order you'd go in is assertive>compliant>compliant
emma - 05/22/2018
oh my god that makes total sense
thank you so much
bc yeah like
Evo - 05/22/2018
yeah if you think of the triads in your tritype, i find it somewhat easier to look at the tritype.
like i'm pretty much frustration>positive>reactive
and you can do that with like all the types of triads
emma - 05/22/2018
i dont relate to your situation at all bc i have no problem putting my needs above everything else
Evo - 05/22/2018
lol wew
lucky
being triple compliant is like the worst lol
i'm so glad i'm 1 core :eyes:
emma - 05/22/2018
like i fit the whole doubtful nature of 6s but some of that might also come from ne?
bc i have dom ne
Evo - 05/22/2018
at least we seem not so doormat'ish on the outside
at first
yeah i could see it
i mean i saw some 6 in there for sure
i think that's your head fix
emma - 05/22/2018
like which parts
yeah me too!
either 6 or 7 but probably 6
Evo - 05/22/2018
but i don't feel it's your core because it's not strong enough
emma - 05/22/2018
also my head fix is def > my gut fix
Evo - 05/22/2018
you're answers to almost everything were assertive triad, not reactive triad
emma - 05/22/2018
i just know my gut is last
Evo - 05/22/2018
well the parts that seemed 6 were the questioning of things, like "this might seem off, but idk this is how i am tho" or like just the vacillation of that nature
seemed 6ish(edited)
emma - 05/22/2018
see but i don't come off 3-ish to many people?? like the way i feel internally about things is very 3 but if ppl at school knew about enneagram they'd probably type me as a 2 or a 9
but i question things SO much
it's like the core of my personality
Evo - 05/22/2018
no 3 comes off 3ish, tbh
that's the problem with 3s lol
emma - 05/22/2018
omg rly
Evo - 05/22/2018
their identity is fluid as all holy hell lmao
emma - 05/22/2018
how do they typically come off
Evo - 05/22/2018
they come off all sorts of ways
haha
emma - 05/22/2018
omg elaborate pls
Evo - 05/22/2018
that the thing
emma - 05/22/2018
ohhhh
i come off a lot more doormat-y than i am tbh
allingy star - 05/22/2018
lol i relate to you a lot, it took a while for people to start typing me as a 3 because i come off as different types (like 6 as well tbh). i think some ppl are surprised i'm assertive triad because i also come off as a pushover irl
Evo - 05/22/2018
well 3s are actually really interesting lmao
because like they have a little bit of everything?
they're assertive on the inside, but they don't like to be rude, they like to maintain their image. They're also a competency type, so emotionally they keep a lid on things unless there's someone else around them that's super duper emotionally expressive, and then they may act like that person if they attach to those qualities of that person.
3's take in the qualities of others around them
it's like that chvrches song
gold
you know it?
Jerdle - 05/22/2018
Is it common for the image of the 3 to be a less polite, polished image, and more of a blunt asshole?(edited)
Evo - 05/22/2018
they also don't like a lot of emotionality if it's negative because they're a competency type so like if someone's always a downer, the three can kind of want to be more productive with those negative emotions
anyone can be an asshole?
We are made up of our mistakes
We are falling but not alone
We will take the best parts of ourselves
And make them gold
We are made of the smallest stars
We are breathing and letting go
We will take the best parts of ourselves
And make them gold

like these lyrics from chvrches feel very 3 to me
because it's like taking the pieces they like and exalting them
and making them into gold
emma - 05/22/2018
THATS LITERALLY ME @allingy star
Jerdle - 05/22/2018
At the moment, I'm feeling pretty 3w4.
Evo - 05/22/2018
making them their own
emma - 05/22/2018
ALSO THATS LITERALLY ME @Evo

Evo - 05/22/2018
that's because you are jerdle lol
Jerdle - 05/22/2018
I thought I was a 6w7!
Evo - 05/22/2018
i don't see that, but i have no real clue tbh
you haven't done a q
and yeah, i'd have never guessed lingy :lollipop: was a 3, without their q lmao
because like the assertive just doesn't show up
emma - 05/22/2018
tbh im always trying to become a better version of myself so i take on qualities of others that i like
Evo - 05/22/2018
yeah that right there^ is attachment triad
not that other types dont do that....
but not like 3s do lol
not near as much
Jerdle - 05/22/2018
I've seen it as a common 4 trait, as well. But it's more 3.
emma - 05/22/2018
but the thing is that i dont rly base who i wanna be off of what OTHERS find attractive? if i really like someone/i personally find them attractive in some sort of a way, i begin to act like them because i kind of want to be them? but i dont rly care too much about whether other people like them or not like it's mainly a me thing
Evo - 05/22/2018
1s and 2s maybe do that a little. 2s want to be everything to someone. so that you need them, but it's not the same as 3s. 3s actually take on the qualities and value those things themselves
emma - 05/22/2018
so idk what that indicates
Evo - 05/22/2018
yes
like what i just said lol
2s do it for others, 3s do it for themselves
emma - 05/22/2018
OMG REALLY
Evo - 05/22/2018
1s do it to be ""good""
Jerdle - 05/22/2018
3w4. It indicates 3w4.
Острый Друг - 05/22/2018
god i wish i were 3
emma - 05/22/2018
oh i was so worried you'd tell me i was a 4 or smt
i take on qualities i like in other people yes
i do that a LOT
oh but im so scared of like
Острый Друг - 05/22/2018
you can take my qualities if you want
Evo - 05/22/2018
oh it could be? with like the authenticity part. But like 3s do it for themselves because they're an assertive type lol
emma - 05/22/2018
somebody suspecting that im copying someone
Evo - 05/22/2018
lol spicy
Jerdle - 05/22/2018
That's called w4.
allingy star - 05/22/2018
true
Evo - 05/22/2018
like a compliant type like me? i do a lot of shit because i'm supposed to
emma - 05/22/2018
im scared that someone will find out my secret lmfao
Evo - 05/22/2018
not because i want to
allingy star - 05/22/2018
i thought i was a 4 for a while because i am concerned with authenticity, but it's just a wing
Evo - 05/22/2018
we wont tell anyone emma :eyes:
allingy star - 05/22/2018
tru
Evo - 05/22/2018
you're part of the fluid image gang now
lol
you can be whatever you wann to be :rainbowpup:
emma - 05/22/2018
haha yeah!!
Jerdle - 05/22/2018
Image gang
Image gang
Image gang
Image gang
emma - 05/22/2018
so are you SURE thats 3w4 and not 4w3?
Jerdle - 05/22/2018
Image gang
Image gang
Image gang
Image gang
Image gang
Image gang
Yes, I'm sure.
гири ✌ - 05/22/2018
spam it up
Evo - 05/22/2018
silly bean
Jerdle - 05/22/2018
As in Gucci gang.
As in I thought I was funny.
Scirrus - 05/22/2018
god i wish i could absorb @Острый  Друг's qualities

Evo - 05/22/2018
yes, not much in your q screams 4 as core.
Jerdle - 05/22/2018
Being even more annoying than me?
That takes work.
Evo - 05/22/2018
They're primarily a withdrawn type, and they're also a frustration type, along with reactive
умилингос - 05/22/2018
self awareness
Evo - 05/22/2018
you didnt' have much reactive/frustration/or withdrawn in there
was just like a flavor of the 3 because the desire for uniqueness
and not wanting to be boring
or ordinary
emma - 05/22/2018
oh im not withdrawn at aLL
allingy star - 05/22/2018
@emma i made a post about 3w4 vs 4w3 https://www.tumblr.com/blog/largecontainerforgarbage idk how to link the post exactly on mobile but u can find it if u scroll down a bit
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Evo - 05/22/2018
:o
lingy done made a heckin of a post??
must read
:pepescholar:
allingy star - 05/22/2018
idk how accurate it is since i was mostly talking about my own experience, lemme know if there's something questionable there
Jerdle - 05/22/2018
You're a 3w4, just probably not a sp3.
Evo - 05/22/2018
yeah, i have no idea on instincts for anyone
allingy star - 05/22/2018
same
Jerdle - 05/22/2018
In a word, sp3 is career. sx3 is magnetism. so3 is recognition.(edited)
emma - 05/22/2018
oh my god @allingy star i love your blog sfm
@Jerdle im so3 for sure haha
allingy star - 05/22/2018
lol thx
Острый Друг - 05/22/2018
god i wish ling wrote about me in her blog
allingy star - 05/22/2018
same tbh
emma - 05/22/2018
wait so just to be clear
you guys think im a core 3 right??
Evo - 05/22/2018
i think so, yeah
3w4 or 3w2 both work for me
you might have to compare those
the descriptions of those
because like
i couldn't tell what wing
but everyone here that's posted has a 3 fix, and they say 3w4
emma - 05/22/2018
yeah i think my wing is def 4
ive considered core 4 before
meanwhile ive never considered even a 2 fix
Evo - 05/22/2018
oh ok
then yeah i'd go with 3w4
i don't see 4 core at all really
emma - 05/22/2018
me neither but
i think my 4 wing is pretty strong tbh
i introspect more than a typical 3 is said to
also im more attentive to my emotions than 3s are said to be
Evo - 05/22/2018
oh yes that's the major difference between 3w4 and 3w2
emma - 05/22/2018
im very self-focused lol
Evo - 05/22/2018
some introspection can be lost on the 3w2 it said i think

emma - 05/22/2018
i know i am!
wait what does that mean though
that my 6 fix is strong or
my 4 wing is strong??
emma - 05/22/2018
or that im mistypedJFKDJ
allingy star - 05/22/2018
i think both your 6 fix and 4 wing is strong
emma - 05/22/2018
ohh makes sense
guys i just realized that like
my BIGGEST fear is being forced to show vulnerability/genuine emotion
like im scared of something happening that forces me to lose control of myself and show people the real me
im always kind of fake to a certain extent
it isn't really FAKENESS but it's more like,,, hiding some things
i can select what i want to show people and what i don't want to show them
is that indicative of anything lmao
Оddiту - 05/22/2018
could be, but you'd have to elaborate
allingy star - 05/22/2018
man you're really relatable to me emma lol
i talked about this on my own questionnaire as well a while ago
looking through my log to bring it up
I definitely don't want to be seen as inviting to most people, and while I don't even want to let my guard down to people who have proven themselves sometimes it spills out. I just don't want anyone to think that I'm overly emotional. ... It makes me feel as though I seem weak, even though emotion should be a normal thing. I just don't want people seeing that side of me. ... I'm afraid that people will look at me differently and think that I'm pathetic because of it, maybe even try to take advantage of me. I feel like people will judge me negatively if I display a lot of emotion, I do the same to others sometimes tbh. I'd only show that side to people I don't think would judge me and I feel comfortable around them, so I think it says that I trust those people.
is what i said, i thought it was a 3 thing
but yeah i'd like to hear you elaborate on it as well, what's the reason why you're very afraid to show vulnerability?
Jerdle - 05/22/2018
Although vulnerability is a common fear (3, 5, 6 and 8 all fear it), that specific fear of your image breaking down is very 3.
emma - 05/22/2018
yeah its mainly what jerdle said about my image breaking down
also it could potentially be an fi thing? bc i'm uncomfortable expressing my emotions outwardly
ALSO I FEEL THAT SO MUCH @allingy star
tbh i feel like most ppl would say that i seem like a pretty emotional person because i like expressing positive emotions/emotions that i'm comfortable with, and also because the image i've set up for myself is of me being someone sweet and bubbly and happy and breaking it would cause inconsistencies and lead people to think that i might be faking it so i try to stick with that
but i would NEVER break down crying in front of somebody or even just show them my negative side
literally just the thought of somebody seeing me cry completely terrifies me
emma - 05/22/2018
what does all that indicate lmao
Jerdle - 05/22/2018
3w2 so/sx, actually.
emma - 05/22/2018
what
how
wait can you elaborate plsJFKSJD
Jerdle - 05/22/2018
Just that the 3w4 often has a colder image.
emma - 05/22/2018
ohh rly?
well my image isn't COLD but it's distinctive
like i've made a unique persona for myself
and i value authenticity to a certain extent at least
so i think 3w4 makes more sense?
Evo - 05/22/2018
Yeah i think 3w4 with double compliant types as a tritype makes sense
emma - 05/23/2018
ohh okay i see
hold up but i could potentially be a core 6? im rly not sureJFKDJD
allingy star - 05/23/2018
my BIGGEST fear is being forced to show vulnerability/genuine emotion
 if this is your biggest fear, it's more image-related and i would point toward 3
and as evo said, assertive first with two compliant fixes does make most sense to me
but your 6 fix is undeniably strong
Острый Друг - 05/23/2018
interesting how you phrased it as genuine emotion :thinking:
as if there is fake emotions
Evo - 05/23/2018
oh
:tru:
wew
nice catch there :nice:
emma - 05/23/2018
oHHH i see
@Острый  Друг JFKSHDKS there are
thank you @allingy star bc it is lol im EXTREMELY image-focused although i'm not very good at making everyone see me in exactly the way i want them to see me
but it's still where most of my focus lies
allingy star - 05/23/2018
yeah that makes sense
i also relate to 3 and 6 a lot, been considering 6 core a bit but if i really think about it my image is much more of a concern than my security
even if i think i'm better at being a 6 than a 3 lol
emma - 05/23/2018
mE(edited)
WHY ARE WE THE SAME PERSON
allingy star - 05/23/2018
man i hope you stick around even after your questionnaire is done lol
Evo - 05/23/2018
lol yes pls
emma - 05/23/2018
wait who
allingy star - 05/23/2018
you lol
emma - 05/23/2018
omg thank you
im glad you enjoy my company
emma - 05/23/2018
GUYS IM A CORE 3
Острый Друг - 05/23/2018
:confetti_ball:
allingy star - 05/23/2018
us too thanks
Krayfish - 05/23/2018
Woo congrats!

Оddiту - 05/23/2018
my condolences
emma - 05/23/2018
i was talking to @Jerdle and i found that 9 disintergration and 6 integration makes a lot of sense
allingy star - 05/23/2018
dank
emma - 05/23/2018
@allingy star yo it won’t let me privately msg u for some reason??
Острый Друг - 05/23/2018
probably have to add her
allingy star - 05/23/2018
yeah tbh
emma - 05/24/2018
hold up
im not sure about my enneagram
couldn't i be a disintegrating 6?
Krayfish - 05/24/2018
I mean you could, but it just seems more likely that you'd be a 3 core
What makes you doubt your 3-ness?
emma - 05/25/2018
i'm too introspective, conscientious, anxious, focused on taking in information about myself whether it be good or bad, willing to accept my flaws as they are, seeking constant reassurance, questioning/doubtful, indecisive, seeking for certainty, worrisome, and contradictory in nature to be a core 3. although i do fit many 3 traits, i think core 6 fits better for multiple reasons. also i HEAVILY rely on some sort of support outside myself to provide me with answers and put my doubts to rest. it's like i need constant external reassurance because i find it hard to come to conclusions myself.
Jerdle - 05/25/2018
I've definitely noticed that last bit about a source of support!
Evo - 05/25/2018
Rereading the q, i think even for someone that's a severely disintegrated counterphobic 6, that it's still too much 3
It's just my opinion, though. You don't have to pick that type just because someone says so. Like i wont force it down your throat lol :P
It's also good to keep in mind, that it's less about traits and more about motivations
Like I've noticed a lot of 1s and 3s mistype, because they both are like achievers
But 1s are looking to not be criticized or to ever be blamed for something, and 3s are looking to be valuable
So you can have traits of one type, but the true reasons behind why you do that or why your motivated to do that are more representative of type
emma - 05/25/2018
hm yeah
idk i think my motivations and everything fits 6 slightly better
emma - 05/25/2018
im so so afraid of losing trust in something
and i always wanna find some sort of stability
i really don't think i'm a core 3 because i feel like that part of me outweighs the image-focused part of me
although, again, they're both extremely strong
emma - 05/27/2018
wait what do you guys think haha? bc im not positive whether im 6 core or 3 core
Evo - 05/27/2018
Hm i still think 3
I am not sure what others concluded
Michiel zmivh - 05/27/2018
still think 3 :ok_hand::skin-tone-3:
Evo - 05/28/2018
@Michiel zmivh do you have different reasons than i listed :thinking:
Just curious
allingy star - 05/28/2018
yeah based on the questionnaire i'd still say 3, same reasons
Michiel zmivh - 05/28/2018
yeah I dont think I listed different reasons tbh, it mostly the amount of image focus and assertive tri
not enough argument for 6 in general
although reading the convo the 6 is prominent for sure
Evo - 05/28/2018
Yeah, i mean i relate hardcore to the 6 stuff that was listed
But idk
I also have only a fix lol
Threes need to learn that they can feel their feelings without being rejected by others, Sixes need to learn that they can follow their own inner guidance without losing support from others, and Nines need to learn that they can assert themselves without losing their connection with others.


I relate to all three lol
We had a 3 discussion
About feelings
Many Threes have reported that, even when they are in the average Levels, they cannot function and feel at the same time. They believe that if they feel, then they will not be able to function, and if they function they cannot afford to feel.
As demands to perform well increase, average Threes will try to avoid the feeling mode and switch back to the functioning mode as quickly as possible. The further down the Levels they are, the more identified they become with functioning well, and the more threatened and overwhelmed they will be by moments in which their feelings break through. Therefore, they will try to stay out of their feelings as much as possible. The greater the division between their feelings and functioning, the more their feelings become unconscious and the more these unconscious feelings direct their behavior—they will act out compulsively, eventually ruining their ability to function as well.
emma - 05/28/2018
hm i really dk
my main argument for core 6 is that i'm extremely indecisive and looking for certainty/something that i can trust
but i haven't really been this way before i first found out about mbti
like learning about typology and stuff is kind of what started up this part of me
also a lot of ppl ive talked to on tumblr about my type think im a core 6
but there are also quite a few reasons i don't rly think i'm a 6
one of them being,, i know what a 6 looks like. i completely understand their motivations/behaviour/all that. but i really don't think i'm one of them
my mom's a cp6, for example. and maybe the fact that she's either an si dom or aux contributes to it, but i find myself to be absolutely nothing like her
if anything i get rly annoyed by the way she is
emma - 05/28/2018
like she's the literal embodiment of a cp6. and i keep comparing myself to her and i don't see any similarities? i'm generally just a lot more chill than her tbh
also i'm not prone to anxiety by any means. i'm also not super fearful, i don't tend to image worst case scenarios constantly, i'm not pessimistic, etc etc.
literally the only evidence for core 6 is my lack of self-certainty/how i'm prone to indecision
but i also feel like a core 3 wouldn't be this indecisive?
although a large portion of it probably comes from me being an ne dom
maybe i'm not core 3 or core 6
what do you guys think haha
Michiel zmivh - 05/28/2018
tbh, I think doubting your type is normal for whichever type (doesn't have to be 6). and once you're into typology hellhole you might try to classify everything you do to types lol so it might bleed to other things. and ofc having 6 fix dont help with that, but like
but i haven't really been this way before i first found out about mbti
like learning about typology and stuff is kind of what started up this part of me this thing makes me doubt you're a type 6, since if you're core 6 you have to relate to that too before knowing typology
at least in some other way than typology
that being said dont really type yourself using similarities to other people tbh(edited)
bc there are lots of things that can contribute to that
emma - 05/28/2018
exactly!!
see but like
SOOOO many people think im a core 6
like literally almost everyone ive talked to on here is like "yeah youre a 6 for sure"
Michiel zmivh - 05/28/2018
you know what, caring that people think you're core 6 and therefore you are seems to be more 3-ish than 6-ish
since its related to image
emma - 05/28/2018
man nearly my entire focus is on image
like, at all times
it's rly bad actually
Michiel zmivh - 05/28/2018
like, I can relate to that too to an extent
yeah bc ur image type :kittyhypethonk:
emma - 05/28/2018
i always focus on how i'm coming off to others and i change so so much depending on who i'm talking to
it's like i have so many different variations of myself that idk which one's really me
i mean i kind of do but like
Michiel zmivh - 05/28/2018
like, I care that my perception of me being a 593/953 is the same as other people bc otherwise I might be wrong at my own self-assessment
emma - 05/28/2018
the way i act REALLY depends on who im talking to
ohhh yeah i see
Michiel zmivh - 05/28/2018
so I can totally see thats a 3 thing
yeah the variations thing seem 3so too
emma - 05/28/2018
see but about the whole comparing myself to other people thing
i know what a 6 looks like, generally
i know a couple 6s
and like
they're all diff mbti types/ivs
but they all have this 6-ness to them that i don't think i have
like they come off super anxious and always look scared
and i don't think i have that same sort of vibe
i know that's a bad way to type but like
also just with the general way they come off and stuff,,, that's not rly me
besides on text to people who i'm asking for typing help
Michiel zmivh - 05/28/2018
RIP yeah I can see that xD
emma - 05/28/2018
in irl convos or convos with people in which i'm not talking to about mbti it's really not the same as, like, me right now HAHA
i only only only get this way over typology tbh
HAHA YEAH
Michiel zmivh - 05/28/2018
yeah ofc situation is important
tbh if typology gets you to question yourself too much I think you should take a break from it...or at least gain some distance
emma - 05/28/2018
tbh i think i'm too focused on image to not be a heart type though
oh and yeah good idea
Michiel zmivh - 05/28/2018
obv people cant type you based only on how you act being typed
emma - 05/28/2018
but like, it's hard
EXACTLY
Michiel zmivh - 05/28/2018
yeah I get it tbh
emma - 05/28/2018
BUT EVERYONE JUST ASSUMES THEY CAN
Michiel zmivh - 05/28/2018
I have my times too lmao
emma - 05/28/2018
they take one trait of mine and go based off that
Michiel zmivh - 05/28/2018
well, I understand that like, people type based on what they see so
perhaps without the questionnaire I would also think 6
emma - 05/28/2018
yeah but i hate when they have 100% faith in their own conclusions when like
they dont rly know me
Michiel zmivh - 05/28/2018
but with it its pretty obvious its 3
emma - 05/28/2018
yeah yeah
idk what i am tbh
like
???????
maybe im a 6 in denial honestly
Michiel zmivh - 05/28/2018
tbh
I dont think 6 feels like their in denial
emma - 05/28/2018
omg rly
how so
Michiel zmivh - 05/28/2018
idk just never seen them act like that
worry that they're in denial i mean
bc they project so
emma - 05/28/2018
tbh i dont relate to either p6 or cp6 entirely so that's also kind of a problem if i'm a core 6
Michiel zmivh - 05/28/2018
usually they come off convinced that something bad gonna happen/this person think not so good about me/etc
emma - 05/28/2018
bc apparently you have to be one of those
oh yeah yeah
Michiel zmivh - 05/28/2018
no I dont think so
cp6 and p6 are one and the same type
they just use different ways to combat their fear
there are lots of 6s who cycle between both
my mom has a 6fix she defo cycle between both
emma - 05/28/2018
mhm
yeah same
im sure i do
i could be a core 6 who cycles btwn both then?
wait but idkFJKDSFJ
Michiel zmivh - 05/28/2018
I still think you're 3 :shruggie:
emma - 05/28/2018
i think like
okay but idk
idk if a core 3 would get all like
this
like with all this indecision and uncertainty and be trying desperately to find answers
Michiel zmivh - 05/28/2018
3 with a strong 6 fix might
emma - 05/28/2018
i think that's more indicative of core 6
yeah i was rly rly considering that
i think they're both rly strong
Michiel zmivh - 05/28/2018
well depends on what indecision and what uncertainty lmao
emma - 05/28/2018
my 3 and 6
wdym
Michiel zmivh - 05/28/2018
like, from what I see all these indecision and uncertainty is you being unsure of who you really are
emma - 05/28/2018
yes thats true
Michiel zmivh - 05/28/2018
but this isnt how you act outside typology right
emma - 05/28/2018
actually uhhh
i mean
it depends
it definitely shows up mostly in typology
okay ill tell you how i am irl
Michiel zmivh - 05/28/2018
hmhmm which other area you're indecisive and uncertain?
emma - 05/28/2018
i'm like,, generally really optimistic. much more than i feel a 6 should be. i don't have a habit of imagining worst-case scenarios constantly. i've never gotten genuine anxiety/a panic attack/etc. i don't live my life in an extremely fearful manner. i fit the whole "wanting to find certainty" aspect of 6s, and 9 integration makes sense, but i just think i'm much more chill than other 6s. i'm quite chill about most things besides typology actually. i have a rly hard time finding who i am though/i'm unable to see myself in a clear light (which is probably due to low si). but idkkk like. idk if im a 6.  idk if im a 3. idk if im anything lol
Michiel zmivh - 05/28/2018
ok well firstly
none of those things are really what excludes you to being a core 6 tbh
emma - 05/28/2018
well indecision is something i'm quite prone to in general but it's mainly like,, ne dom indecision. i am an ne dom after all and that probably contributes to a lot of my 6-like qualities
Michiel zmivh - 05/28/2018
although having a hard time seeing yourself in clear light is defo 3 lol
or 9
emma - 05/28/2018
is it really
Michiel zmivh - 05/28/2018
not Si or anything
yeah
emma - 05/28/2018
really?
Michiel zmivh - 05/28/2018
really lol
emma - 05/28/2018
no but i mean like
Michiel zmivh - 05/28/2018
3 adds a lot of desired traits from environment to the point where they dont know who they are anymore
emma - 05/28/2018
oH yeah that makes sense
Michiel zmivh - 05/28/2018
while 9s have a foggy sense of self and can see themselves reflected in anything
and they dont have a very strong conviction that says "this is not me" in general
emma - 05/28/2018
yeah i don't think i'm 9 fixed though
Silverlingy - 05/28/2018
oof. both relatable af
emma - 05/28/2018
im for sure 3 fixed though lol
Michiel zmivh - 05/28/2018
idk how you think thats Si tbh lol
emma - 05/28/2018
nono like
in a non image-related manner
Michiel zmivh - 05/28/2018
yeah, I think its mostly the 3 for you
emma - 05/28/2018
like
being unable to evaluate behaviour/thought-processes over time
Michiel zmivh - 05/28/2018
that still doesnt sound like Si
emma - 05/28/2018
low si
Michiel zmivh - 05/28/2018
??
emma - 05/28/2018
low si
Michiel zmivh - 05/28/2018
yeah but evaluating behaviour/thought process isnt a si thing
i mean idk who said that or how you come to that so
I usually use socionics but afaik thats not Si in MBTI too
emma - 05/28/2018
nono i don't think you understand what i mean like
Michiel zmivh - 05/28/2018
I mean I dont think I do too :sweat_smile:
how is that Si really
in socionics evaluating things over time (the changes and patterns of it) is Ni
Si in MBTI is also about senses and comfort
maybe you mean memory?
but memory doesnt mean you track things over time
emma - 05/28/2018
high ne (which is low si as a given) has a tendency to type based off singular traits/they usually float through possibilities about themselves and latch onto every new one they find
this can also be a thing for like
se doms
just generally lack of introverted perceiving functions can cause this
Michiel zmivh - 05/28/2018
idk tbh
do you really float through possibilities?
what about on things unrelated to typology
emma - 05/28/2018
i've heard this from several people and this is very true for me
yes
i do
Michiel zmivh - 05/28/2018
bc like, even typology you're not really sifting through types you're just oscillating between two types
emma - 05/28/2018
nono
you don't like
know
FJDKSFJS
Оddiту - 05/28/2018
w0w
Michiel zmivh - 05/28/2018
do you think its possible to have 5 core then :GWfroggyBlobThonk:
emma - 05/28/2018
i've been going between MAAAAAANY different types
Michiel zmivh - 05/28/2018
not everyone's gonna have their type right the first try
emma - 05/28/2018
okay but you don't know my past with typology
Michiel zmivh - 05/28/2018
no I dont
but I've been 4, 9, 3, and 6 myself
:shruggie:
I dont think thats Ne necessarily
also try to not combine MBTI with enneagram really
they measure different things
wot
how did this just move...
Scirrus - 05/28/2018
mod abuse smh
Michiel zmivh - 05/28/2018
did spacey's or evo's finger slip :kittyhypethonk:
Scirrus - 05/28/2018
yes
Оddiту - 05/28/2018
into ther own bum hole
allingy star - 05/28/2018
@Evo @Fallingy Star
Fallingy Star - 05/28/2018
yo
Scirrus - 05/28/2018
spacey was too busy kicking me and spicy from the server :angry:
Острый Друг - 05/28/2018
:angry:
Michiel zmivh - 05/28/2018
lmao
would you move this back to pending @Fallingy Star ?
Fallingy Star - 05/28/2018
done
Michiel zmivh - 05/28/2018
eyy thanks
Number 9 large - 06/02/2018
@emma  i think you're a 4w3
ESI, if you're into socionics
Social instinct first
Sexual second
emma - 06/02/2018
@Number 9 large why do you think im 4w3
Number 9 large - 06/02/2018
Struggles over your image, being unique
4s basic fear is to have no unique identity
I thought it was fitting
emma - 06/02/2018
hmm i suppose
Number 9 large - 06/02/2018
And i didnt see any 5

emma - 06/02/2018
are 4s, like,, willing to be inauthentic to themselves to have an interesting image, though?
Number 9 large - 06/02/2018
You tend to be on the deceptive side, hence fullblown image type
Yea when theyre average to unhealthy, yes
And your 3 wing also influences this
4w5s are a bit less self aware, image-wise than 4w3s
emma - 06/02/2018
ohh okay interesting
but see i'm very willing to change myself to impress others
like i act differently around literally everyone ik
also i draw my own self-image from what people say about me, & i tend to start there rather than from myself
sooo i'm not sure. like is this still core 4-like? maybe my 3 wing's just rly strong lmao
Number 9 large - 06/02/2018
Hm
Yeah to me it seems social instinct first
emma - 06/02/2018
yeah yeah im for sure soc first
Number 9 large - 06/02/2018
Social Fours focus their envy and hypersensitivity in the social realm; thus, they are people who deeply want to belong, to be a part of an "in crowd" with a glamorous lifestyle, but who often fear that they are not up to it. Social Fours tend to be more extroverted than Fours of the other two instincts and can resemble Twos or Sevens. Social Fours can be quite funny, using droll, ironic humor to make a point or simply to stimulate conversation. They enjoy expressing their individuality and sense of style in a more public way, although they also attempt to conceal the extent of their feelings of social inadequacy or shame. Social Fours may work hard to develop a public persona through which they can communicate the depths of their feelings, but this persona is usually more glamorous and free than they actually feel. Social Fours are acutely aware of the artifice of their persona, but they use it nonetheless as a way of finding some sense of belonging and involvement in the world. When they are more troubled, Social Fours fear social humiliation to such a degree that they may retreat from much social contact, becoming isolated and reclusive. They may also develop a personal style cultivated to show the world how wounded and different they feel.
emma - 06/02/2018
hmm idk if i rly relate to that
Number 9 large - 06/02/2018
Hmm
emma - 06/02/2018
like yeah i get some of those feelings sometimes but it isn't like a "THIS IS SO ME OH MY GOD" sort of thing
Number 9 large - 06/02/2018
Basic Fear: That they have no identity or personal significanceBasic Desire: To find themselves and their significance (to create an
   identity)
emma - 06/02/2018
see idk if that's my biggest fear
Number 9 large - 06/02/2018
We have named this type The Individualist because Fours maintain their identity by seeing themselves as fundamentally different from others. Fours feel that they are unlike other human beings, and consequently, that no one can understand them or love them adequately. They often see themselves as uniquely talented, possessing special, one-of-a-kind gifts, but also as uniquely disadvantaged or flawed. More than any other type, Fours are acutely aware of and focused on their personal differences and deficiencies.
Alright
Lets look at 3 then
Острый Друг - 06/02/2018
Social Threes seek value by gaining social recognition—by having tangible signs of progress and success. They want to be recognized for their hard work and achievement (Employee of the Month, diplomas, awards) and to have ways of measuring their rise up the ranks. Social Threes are very adaptable, concerned with fitting into whatever culture they find themselves in, be it corporate or national. If they move to another country, they are able to adapt to the norms of that country more easily than most other types. If they join a spiritual community or ashram, they quickly become well adjusted to the social expectations of that community. The Social Threes are the most concerned with being appropriate and with avoiding any behaviors that would cause offense. At the same time, they are highly ambitious and so must balance their drive to excel and to surpass others with their desire to have others like and accept them.

Thus, of the three instinctual variants of this type, Social Threes are at the greatest risk of losing track of their core values and goals. They may adapt so successfully that they find themselves adrift without tangible goals or a clear path for achieving them. In this regard, they can resemble Sevens, moving from one promising project to another as they adapt to different opportunities that present themselves. Social Threes can also get into trouble by attempting to rise faster than they are able or by taking on tasks that they are not yet ready or qualified to perform. The desire to please and to impress can become a powerful magnet that can derail the Social Three from pursuing real, achievable goals.
Number 9 large - 06/02/2018
Honestly 4 fits more
Im reading back youe questionaire
You seem to be moody and care a lot about your feelings
More than about others
Its typical of 4s to tend a lot to their own feelings
Also you report beinf envious and jealous of others
4s often are melancholic and yearn for what they cant or dont have
When asked what u avoid doing u said

U avoid being seen as normal
Thats basically 4s basic desire
Out of all the things u could have said its this
U wanna leave an unique impression, thats only something 4s directly want to do. 3s dont necessarily want to be seen as unique, so much as successful, and i dont hear this back nearly as much in your story
Its obvious you are an image type, because you struggle with shame, deception, and showing your true face. Who ARE you. Yourself or your image? This is something all image types struggle with.
But 4w3 arguably the most, because 4s are most aware of their feelings. Of all types in the enneagram, they're the most introspective.
3s repress their feelings, seeing them as a hindrance to reaching success
2s also do this, because they deem their own feelings unworthy compared to others feelings.
But you dont seem to be this way
So yea thats why i think 4
Evo - 06/03/2018
emma - Yesterday at 9:50 PM
are 4s, like,, willing to be inauthentic to themselves to have an interesting image, though?

no lol
allingy star - 06/03/2018
yeah i'm pretty sure a 4's main desire is being authentic. which goes in hand with being unique but that isn't the main focus.
Evo - 06/03/2018
yes
lol
https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/misidentifying-3-and-4/
The Enneagram Institute
Misidentifying 3 and 4
here @emma
also
https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/misidentifying-3-and-6/
The Enneagram Institute
Relationship Type 6 with Type 3
i remember you being kinda torn between 3 and 6
and i think you don't really come off as reactive as 6
like a lot of what your q said was like you have a difference between your external you and your internal you
and dealing primarily with image-focused issues
Sixes are hard workers, too, but unless they are moving to Three in stress, tend to feel awkward about taking the spotlight.
i could see that being true
Number 9 large - 06/03/2018
She doesnt seem 6
Evo - 06/03/2018
lol that's because she's a 3(edited)
Olimpia - 06/03/2018
?
Evo - 06/03/2018
a 3 lol
rip
Olimpia - 06/03/2018
Haha
Oke makes more sense :stuck_out_tongue:
Evo - 06/03/2018
i can't focus on vc, and posting songs, and inviting more bots at the same time haha
rip
Olimpia - 06/03/2018
:wink:
Острый Друг - 06/03/2018
:hyperultramegathonk:
emma - 06/03/2018
hmm yeah i'm not sure
people tell me i seem like a 6 when i ask them for typing help bccc i tend to overthink shit and i ask a lot of questions and stuff
but i'm not rly like this outside of typology tbh
and i've never been told by ppl irl that i come off "nervous" or "anxious"
Evo - 06/03/2018
you don't ask a lot of questions outside of typology?
emma - 06/03/2018
i mean i do but like
Evo - 06/03/2018
do you have a lot of anxiety and fear going on?
emma - 06/03/2018
not rly tbh
see but like
i do make a lot of head-based decisions and overthink things a lot
more than i feel like a core 3 should
but i don't rly have? anxiety? and i'm more motivated by shame than fear
Evo - 06/03/2018
what does it mean to make head based decisions?
emma - 06/03/2018
like i'm for sure gut last
i don't trust my gut on things typically
Evo - 06/03/2018
the competency types often feel that they are a head type, and that's because we're in our heads a lot...
because we want to be competent
emma - 06/03/2018
yeah!
if you're a 6 do you need to have like,, anxiety a lot
bc i overthink a lot but i don't get straight up anxious
Evo - 06/03/2018
i'm almost always in my head, but i feel that i don't have much fear or shame going on at all.
i've asked many people who have been properly typed, whether they're in their heads or not
some of them are head types, and some of them are not
and many people answer yes
feeling like you're in your head is different from actually being a head type
Scirrus - 06/03/2018
i would say 3 > 6 from your q
but yeah more image  than head stuff
much more focus on 3 as a whole
really hard time seeing u as anything other than a 3
Evo - 06/03/2018
I do see the 6 influence. I mean that's not a doubt...
Scirrus - 06/03/2018
yeah def 6 influence too
Evo - 06/03/2018
but I think I asked you like a bunch of questions, and they all just seemed to be more shame related
Michiel zmivh - 06/03/2018
hey @emma would it be ok to you if I paste our convos here? just for other's reference
emma - 06/03/2018
sure! @Michiel zmivh
and yeaaah that makes sense @Evo
Michiel zmivh - 06/03/2018
https://pastebin.com/drqf7qBd
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tbh now idk if you're 3 or 6 lmao
the q reads really 3 but
you oscillate in relating to the core fear too, so :GWfroggyBlobThonk:
Evo - 06/03/2018
lol
i'll read later, okay?
emma - 06/03/2018
idk if im 3 or 6 either LOL
emma - 06/03/2018
okayyy wait i just realized something about myself
Оddiту - 06/03/2018
wot
emma - 06/03/2018
ik this might sound bad but like,, i wanna be seen as two-faced lmao
like i just loVE the idea of there being multiple sides to me
and like
people discovering that about me
which is why i like to present a ton of inconsistency in my personas
like i always try to give people glimpses at there potentially being another side of me they don't yet know about
and i play around with stuff like that a LOT
because i find it really endearing in others, also
i just love the whole "clown with a sad side" or "asshole with a heart" sort of thing
and i strive to achieve that with others
and i've been in denial about me being like that for a while now, but i just realized that this is something i do a TON

Оddiту - 06/03/2018
3
yeah definitely 3 over 4
allingy star - 06/03/2018
i'm still betting on 3>4 for you as well
Оddiту - 06/04/2018
Your answers in the top post are literally like a checklist for enneagram 3
I don't know why you wouldn't be certain that you're a 3
Evo - 06/04/2018
still sounds 3
I don't know why you wouldn't be certain that you're a 3

 yeah, i mean there's many reasons
she has a 6 fix
is the most obvious lol
so questioning everything and not feeling super secure in a type is normal for 6 fixers
but also, imo enneagram deals with deeper aspects than a lot of every day talk
so it can take a while to  realize or let a motivation sink in.
Оddiту - 06/04/2018
I guess
emma - 06/04/2018
yeah i'm either core 6 or 3 lmao
they're both strooong
but idk which one's first
Оddiту - 06/04/2018
3
emma - 06/04/2018
i feel like my questioning everything and being contradictory in nature is more 6-like buuut i have a RLY strong image-focus
so it could rly be either
Оddiту - 06/04/2018
that's what all the 3s say :stuck_out_tongue:
Number 9 large - 06/04/2018
Maybe ur social 6
Oh i read it again but it seems ur a 3 actually
emma - 06/04/2018
hmmmm idk LOL
wait i'm not sure about cp or p for my 6 fix
умилингос - 06/04/2018
it doesn't matter too much imo
I shift around
I used to be more phobic but now much more cp
emma - 06/04/2018
ohh rly?
yeah see idk
bc i think i relate to counterphobia in general more than phobia but im not sure
умилингос - 06/04/2018
yeah could be, esp paired with the assertive 3
for me its the 8, or sx, or whatever that pushes me toward counterphobia
i felt more phobic when my confidence was lower, i believe
emma - 06/04/2018
ohhh i see
im sx blind soo idk
i just know i don't have a laid-back/passive bone in me lmao
умилингос - 06/04/2018
phobic isn't laid back or passive
it's anxious, but keeps it inside
or seems passive because is too afraid to react, unlike CP
it's not laid back at all im trying to say, whenever theres 6 in there there's always gonna be inner turmoil and anxiety
it is compliant tho, if that's what youre referring to yeah
Number 9 large - 06/04/2018
Compliant to their superego
emma - 06/04/2018
wait whats compliant again
умилингос - 06/04/2018
it's the opposite of assertive basically
caving in to others
complying to what's expected of you
emma - 06/04/2018
how about counterphobic? is that assertive or
умилингос - 06/04/2018
hmm, idk how to explain that
They're both still 6 and 6 is compliant
but idk in what way
:hypethonk:
U made me thonk about this
We should ask in ennea channel
emma - 06/04/2018
yeah haha
because i don't rly see myself as compliant
wait what types are compliant/assertive/withdrawn again
Olimpia - 06/04/2018
compliant 126
assertive 378
withdrawn 459
emma - 06/04/2018
is it possible that i'm a core 7
умилингос - 06/04/2018
and w6?
emma - 06/04/2018
yeah
умилингос - 06/04/2018
do you relate to 7 core stuff a lot?
emma - 06/04/2018
meh
jdksjdksjd
but like
i think im assertive core
Scirrus - 06/04/2018
thats bc u a 3
умилингос - 06/04/2018
yeah like
You cant relate that much to 6 stuff to be a 7 core tbh
Scirrus - 06/04/2018
yeah
умилингос - 06/04/2018
Ure still assertive if ure a 3 despite ur 6 fix
core outweighs fixes
emma - 06/04/2018
nono ik but
i dont think im 3 core honestly
Scirrus - 06/04/2018
its like how rn im double assertive but my core is withdrawn so i relate more to withdrawn
emma - 06/04/2018
would a 3 core really overthink their type this much?
Scirrus - 06/04/2018
sure
allingy star - 06/04/2018
i did tbh ask sc
emma - 06/04/2018
no but it's extreme
Scirrus - 06/04/2018
yeah she really did
for like more than a year
allingy star - 06/04/2018
i literally just found my type before u came here
considered everything except 2
emma - 06/04/2018
like every time i read smt about my type that doesn't fit me 100% i freak out and question it a ton
also cant a lot of the things i said that fit core 3 also be bc i have dom soc?? and also generally bc im for sure not heart last
Scirrus - 06/04/2018
do you really relate more to 6 core fears and motivations than 3
or are you trying to figure that out still
bc like 6ish behaviors are fine even if ur not a 6
core 3 wont expain everything about u
are you so/sp?
emma - 06/04/2018
yes
as in i'm so/sp ^
Scirrus - 06/04/2018
ah ok thats what i figured
emma - 06/04/2018
yeah lol
wait do you guys still think im a 3 or 6
Scirrus - 06/04/2018
im seeing more 3 and image focus in general
with a pretty clear 6 fix
allingy star - 06/04/2018
same
the 6 is p obvious to me tbh
emma - 06/04/2018
can soc potentially bring a strong image-focus ?
allingy star - 06/04/2018
yes, but even so your questionnaire has a lot of signs that point to 3/high heart triad
emma - 06/04/2018
yeah yeah for sure
i just know that i'm definitely gut last LOL
Number 9 large - 06/04/2018
What about 8
Jerdle - 06/04/2018
@emma If you want a serious discussion, come over here. #enneagram is shitpost central.
emma - 06/04/2018
yO
okay hi i'm heee
anywhas
anyways
Krayfish - 06/04/2018
Still going between 3 and 6 core?
Jerdle - 06/04/2018
The 6 is a head type, based on a subconscious fear, coming from the sense that nothing is stable. Think a rickety bridge that could crash to the ground any moment.
Острый Друг - 06/04/2018
yes
Number 9 large - 06/04/2018
I know a bridge on tumblr and he happened to be type 6
Jerdle - 06/04/2018
Or, using an existing analogy, consider being at a cliff-top.
Number 9 large - 06/04/2018
So ye
Jerdle - 06/04/2018
Beat it.
Number 9 large - 06/04/2018
Beat what
Jerdle - 06/04/2018
Leave.
Olimpia - 06/04/2018
beat IT

Number 9 large - 06/04/2018
Just beat it
Jerdle - 06/04/2018
This is a serious channel. If you want shitposting, go elsewhere.
Olimpia - 06/04/2018
mhmmm
Scirrus - 06/04/2018
could we not meme in here pls ty
Number 9 large - 06/04/2018
I know a michael jackson
allingy star - 06/04/2018
@Fallingy Star
Olimpia - 06/04/2018
ok sry
Michiel zmivh - 06/04/2018
like every time i read smt about my type that doesn't fit me 100% i freak out and question it a ton
 tbh this REALLY seems more like overattachment to typology rather than exclusively enneatype 6 @emma
Fallingy Star - 06/04/2018
I'll mute you guys if you don't stop
Jerdle - 06/04/2018
Back on topic: the 6.
The 6 is standing on the edge of a crumbling cliff. The phobic 6 tries to build a net beneath the cliff (I don't know how it works. Spiderman or something.). The cp6 peers over the edge to see that it's not in fact that high.
Number 9 large - 06/04/2018
10/10 analogy
Olimpia - 06/04/2018
hahah
yea no offense but.. this makes it even more confusing
or is that just me
but actually spiderman might be 6
Xp
Jerdle - 06/04/2018
Basically, the p6 tries to find some way of avoiding fear, while the cp6 looks at the fear and realises it's no big deal.
Olimpia - 06/04/2018
it is more like the cp 6 goes against the fear
as a way to prove themselves they are not really afraid
even tho they are
fight or flight
Number 9 large - 06/04/2018
I know a spiderman on tumblr and he was a 4
Olimpia - 06/04/2018
phobic 6 is flight
cp 6 is fight
like lets take someone who is arachnophobic
the p 6 just avoids spiders all the time
the cp6 will go closer to the spider even tho afraid af
Jerdle - 06/04/2018
Which type would kill the spider?
Olimpia - 06/04/2018
haha
cp6 might
out of fear
Jerdle - 06/04/2018
No, I mean it. It's my response to fear.
Olimpia - 06/04/2018
might just be a stereotype but, when a cp 6 with a gun is afraid, they shoot
the phobic 6 might just run away
Jerdle - 06/04/2018
I wouldn't shoot, but that's 1, not 6.
Olimpia - 06/04/2018
well ofc it depends
just trying to explain cp6 vs p6
allingy star - 06/04/2018
jerdle this isn't your channel
emma - 06/04/2018
hmm interesting
again, it's reaaaally situation-dependent for me
Olimpia - 06/04/2018
then you might not be core 6 maybe
but i have not read your questionnaire hah
emma - 06/04/2018
oh hha
Olimpia - 06/04/2018
i just explained
emma - 06/04/2018
yeah everyone says my questionnaire is verY 3

Olimpia - 06/04/2018
your profile pic is 4w3/3w4
fix at least
but yea ofc i'd have to read the questionnaire
emma - 06/04/2018
it's not me in it lol
Olimpia - 06/04/2018
i just find it to be a tricky questionnaire
oh sure but one's profile pic says sth
emma - 06/04/2018
ohh yeah ig
Olimpia - 06/04/2018
because it guides your answers a bit too much at some parts, for my taste
emma - 06/04/2018
and yeah
if u read it you'll probably say i'm an image type lol
and i do think image-type would make sense? like i'd NEVER have considered/self-typed as 6 if it hadn't been for ppl telling me i seemed like one
i thought my overthinking and shit was just ne
Olimpia - 06/04/2018
ok i'll have a look
emma - 06/04/2018
sure
okay actually i was reading back what all of you guys sent about cp6 vs p6 and i think i might lean cp6 a bit
although it does depend
Острый Друг - 06/04/2018
I never understood why 6 is divided under phobic and cp
Olimpia - 06/04/2018
ah ok i can see it
yea sounds pretty 3w4 so far
emma - 06/04/2018
different ways of handling fear/attaining their goal of security and stability, ig?
Olimpia - 06/04/2018
if not core at least fix
emma - 06/04/2018
yeah yeah for sure
ik i'm gut-last
but idk if im head first or heart first
Olimpia - 06/04/2018
so far i dont see anything heady
most of your Q is about the interplay between fake/artificial persona and wanting to be unique
but the uniqueness is like an added bonus not the main theme
and you sound more assertive than withdrawn
or compliant for that matter
emma - 06/04/2018
oh yeah yeah
a looot of my life is centred around personas
i have this sort of war going on btwn my 3 and my 4 lmao
Olimpia - 06/04/2018
yea i can see that
emma - 06/04/2018
it's like my 3's okay with me being fake to endear people to me and my 4 sometimes jumps in and goes "nO you need to be UNIQUE and AUTHENTIC"
but my 3 mostly ends up winning
Olimpia - 06/04/2018
6 and 9 fix
i see that too
bottling up anger and then exploding, typically 9
esp 9w8
emma - 06/04/2018
ohh shit rly
Olimpia - 06/04/2018
yea
emma - 06/04/2018
so maybe im 9w8 fixed then?
Olimpia - 06/04/2018
what did the others say
emma - 06/04/2018
i always thought i was 1w9
i relate to 1 a lot honestly
Olimpia - 06/04/2018
hm i dont see 1
could just be Fi tbh
what do you type in mbti/socionics
emma - 06/04/2018
maaaybe
enfp
Olimpia - 06/04/2018
yea
emma - 06/04/2018
in socionics idk
Olimpia - 06/04/2018
based on the Q you seem pretty ExFp-Fi
emma - 06/04/2018
wait idk what that means lol
like
Olimpia - 06/04/2018
ok head fix could be 6w7
maybe 7w6
you distract yourself with fun when there is stress
so there is 7 somewhere
emma - 06/04/2018
yeah for sure at least as a wing
i don't like dwelling about stuff
although i still do it lmao

Olimpia - 06/04/2018
yea
hehe
emma - 06/04/2018
i get rly worked up about things it's a problem of mine
Olimpia - 06/04/2018
this is also quite assertive:
 i dont necessarily insist VERBALLY, but i'll always find a way to get what
i want. if i rlly want something, i won't be able to take it if i don't get it. and i know this. so therefore, i can't
leave without getting what i need.
(edited)
also speaks for 3>4
emma - 06/04/2018
yeah lol that's v true of me
i wont stop until i get what i want
i dont like compromises
Olimpia - 06/04/2018
yea that is very assertive/id
emma - 06/04/2018
unless i deem it like
a compromise that im happy with
i always have to be happy with it
Olimpia - 06/04/2018
​I tend to assume the worst. Some might call me paranoid.
 pretty 6
not positive outlook
ok so overall i'd say
emma - 06/04/2018
honestly i wrote that questionnaire like 6 months ago so i dont even remember half the stuff i put in there
but my image focus/adaptability is still strong
Olimpia - 06/04/2018
yeah
emma - 06/04/2018
honestly i was exaggerating on that last part you sent
i'm not a super negative person tbh
Olimpia - 06/04/2018
i'd say 3w4-9w8-6w7. you might wanna switch the last two fixes.
emma - 06/04/2018
yeah theyre for sure switched
theres no way in hell im head last
Olimpia - 06/04/2018
sometimes the exact order is not clear
tritype order
i dont know myself what my exact order is
anyhow so yeah
what did you mean when you said you are not a sexual person?
you seem to be SP instinct second(edited)
you seem to have a good handle on SP
like with the food hah
you make it seem like you could be So/Sp
but not sure if that is just your "image" or not
emma - 06/04/2018
oh uhh hold up let me check the questionnaire
wow okay so i'd actually change quite a few of my answers from the questionnaire since i first wrote it
but not everything
howeVER yeah you're right lol!! i'm so/sp
Olimpia - 06/04/2018
yea? ok cool
emma - 06/04/2018
i'm like the definition of sx blind
and i go into phases of indulging in my blindspot sometimes
emma - 06/04/2018
wait so there are some ppl who say im a 6 and some say im a 3 and idk what to thinkJFKDJ
Olimpia - 06/04/2018
i guess they just saw the word "paranoid"
Xp
emma - 06/04/2018
lmaoo
no but not based on the q
just in general
Scirrus - 06/04/2018
well in general you put up masks right?
so how can someone accurately type you if you are putting up a persona for them to see?(edited)
emma - 06/04/2018
nono i mean like
over text
with people on discord
Scirrus - 06/04/2018
oh i c
emma - 06/04/2018
yeah
yeha but irl u right lol
Michiel zmivh - 06/04/2018
3s smh
emma - 06/04/2018
BUT IDK IF IM A THREEEE
Michiel zmivh - 06/04/2018
regardless of that your 3 is still strong, so
emma - 06/04/2018
true
Оddiту - 06/05/2018
3s never know if they're a 3, no matter how obvious it is, because that would be the end of the mystery about their identity
see: Jerdle, Miguel, Tim, etc.
allingy star - 06/05/2018
lol
Острый Друг - 06/05/2018
this but unironically
allingy star - 06/05/2018
same tbh
Evo - 06/05/2018
Yeah, gotta keep that shit on the dl lol
Jerdle - 06/05/2018
3s don't want a mysterious identity. @Оddiту(edited)
Evo - 06/05/2018
@Jerdle
please...
I'm asking nicely
that if you're going to bring your blanket statements up
then you need to actually back them up. and be serious in the typing channels.
i'm not going to ask next time.
Jerdle - 06/05/2018
It's not a drive of type 3 by default. They struggle with their identity, but mysterious identity seems more 4ish to me.(edited)
Evo - 06/05/2018
thank you
see, now that wasn't that hard :P
the thing with emma tho, is that she's said she wasn't really all about the authenticy
unless i'm mistaken
Jerdle - 06/05/2018
Then Oddity's comment was unnecessary.
Evo - 06/05/2018
no, it wasn't. She's most likely a 3. And the point that oddity was making, was that 3s like to keep their image fluid. They don't want to be pinned down to only a few qualities. You admitted you have at the very least a 3 fix. So it's still relevant.
Jerdle - 06/05/2018
Yes, but the idea of a mysterious identity isn't that 3ish. It suggests that there is a clear identity that is being hidden. In fact, there's not much of a solid identity there in the first place, due to the 3's adaptability.
Evo - 06/05/2018
okay but you are being pedantic Jerdle....
Jerdle - 06/05/2018
No shit.
Evo - 06/05/2018
that's sort of
harping on one specific word
in which everyone understood
so why are you doing that?

emma - 06/05/2018
honestly my overall identity is super fluid bc it changes around literally everyone i talk to irl, but when i'm with a certain person, my identity around them is pretty consistent
like i like having many different identities but they're all pretty clear tbh
Michiel zmivh - 06/05/2018
tbh tho if you think most of your problems are image stuffs you're prolly 3 tbh
its just that at some point during our convo you seemingly started to relate more to the 6 fear lol
more than you do 3
emma - 06/05/2018
i think i have a stronger image-focus than focus on security honestly buuut like idk if im heart first or head first in general bc im always in my head
Evo - 06/05/2018
so am i, i'm not head first though
Michiel zmivh - 06/05/2018
i mean, whats the equivalent of in my head/in my body for heart types tho :GWfroggyBlobThonk:
in my mirror?
Evo - 06/05/2018
i think that competency types in general live in their heads
just my opinion
but i do
and that's why i mistyped as 6 fix.. :/
emma - 06/05/2018
hmm im not sure though
either way my 6 fix IS undeniably strong
Evo - 06/05/2018
for sure
allingy star - 06/05/2018
tru af
emma - 06/05/2018
@Michiel zmivh i love the in my mirror thing LOL me
Krayfish - 06/05/2018
3 is one of the types that typically mistakes itself for a head tupe
Typically as a 6
1 does the same thing because all 3 are fairly internalized in their own respects I guess
emma - 06/05/2018
hmm interesting
Olimpia - 06/05/2018
3 might be the rarest type in enneagram circles, at least ime
3s tend to be more mainstream focused
enneagram is too niche for them, often times
esp for 3w2
emma - 06/05/2018
oh shit rly??
idk im RLY into typology and stuff
allingy star - 06/05/2018
i don't agree with this tbh, i actually suspect that 3s in typology  are rare because they don't realize that they're 3 due to shit descriptions
emma - 06/05/2018
SEE BUT WAIT
when i first got into enneagram i immediately was like "oH i'm a 3 for sure"
Острый Друг - 06/05/2018
3 and 7 both hit home for me
Although with 3 stuff it's especially like "wait how does it know that :6ing:"
allingy star - 06/05/2018
god i wish that were me
emma - 06/05/2018
yeah same @Острый  Друг
i relate to maaany 3 things
emma - 06/06/2018
but honestly for a lot of things i cant tell what's just soc and what's 3
Острый Друг - 06/06/2018
I'm so dom and 3
Wew
emma - 06/06/2018
yeah same lol
tbh i don't know if i relate to the whole "efficient/hardworking/gets things done" part of 3
Острый Друг - 06/06/2018
i do the efficient but everything might be a tad too much for me
i wanna say it's my 9 fix, but i'm definitely not a workaholic
and have absolutely 0 problem catching free time to chill lmao
emma - 06/06/2018
yeah i mean i CAN BE efficient
Scirrus - 06/06/2018
me
emma - 06/06/2018
but it's not super consistent in me
Scirrus - 06/06/2018
i chill too much tbh
emma - 06/06/2018
honestly i love chilling and not doing any work but still managing to bullshit my way through things and look like i have everything together LOL
Scirrus - 06/06/2018
same
Острый Друг - 06/06/2018
3s are the master of bullshit
emma - 06/06/2018
tbh my main focus like 95% of the time irl is how i'm seen by others
is that most likely heart triad first
Scirrus - 06/06/2018
yes tbh
emma - 06/06/2018
tbh my main focus like 95% of the time irl is how i'm seen by others
Scirrus - 06/06/2018
image triad af
Острый Друг - 06/06/2018
heart triad is all about image lol
Scirrus - 06/06/2018
i feel like image last bc idc that much about it
Острый Друг - 06/06/2018
i mean tbh tho i don't feel like i care that much about it
Scirrus - 06/06/2018
3s will care af and pretend they dont lol
Острый Друг - 06/06/2018
it's like i try to just chill about my image and just do what i feel and people respond to that well then i get happy about it
emma - 06/06/2018
people tell me i seem head triad first bc i tend to overthink shit,, espECIALLY when it comes to typology, but whenever i do tests and it asks me what my main concern is, my natural instinct is to pick something image related and not "inner guidance" related
Острый Друг - 06/06/2018
i'm never panicking over winning people over to like me
Scirrus - 06/06/2018
yeah thats another thing that points to 3 core emma
emma - 06/06/2018
oh man i'm not organized when it comes to 95% of the things in my life, but when it comes to images/personas, i have everything completely layed out lol
like i have distinctive personas/ways of acting around different people and whenever i'm approached by somebody i'm trying to impress/make think of me in a certain way, i always always change myself and ik exactly how to play it
i just have SUCH a strong focus on image that i can't really picture myself as anything besides heart first
i only really get in my head and shit when i'm stressed out
Scirrus - 06/06/2018
then id say this case is closed
Острый Друг - 06/06/2018
that sounds more heart than even me lol
emma - 06/06/2018
otherwise everything i think about is just image
Scirrus - 06/06/2018
as for your tritype what do u think ur gut is
emma - 06/06/2018
oh man well i'm absolutely 100% gut-last so it's the hardest one for me to figure out for sure
but i think 1? maybe 9
Scirrus - 06/06/2018
9 tends to be more adaptive than 1
id have to look at ur q again tho
Острый Друг - 06/06/2018
oh man
369 is like the most adaptive type ever lol
Scirrus - 06/06/2018
yeah ikr
emma - 06/06/2018
hm maybe, but im not anti-confrontational lol
i like conflict actually
maybe it comes from smt else but
Острый Друг - 06/06/2018
i feel the same way
Scirrus - 06/06/2018
why do u like conflict?
emma - 06/06/2018
yeah idk haha
Острый Друг - 06/06/2018
emma you're basically me lmao
emma - 06/06/2018
HAHA
Острый Друг - 06/06/2018
or are you adapting to be me :eyes:

Scirrus - 06/06/2018
spicy adapts to everyone tbh
emma - 06/06/2018
and uhhh idk it's just fun to me?
oH i think ik why also
Scirrus - 06/06/2018
sounds more 8 than anything lol
emma - 06/06/2018
well first of all i just like arguing bc ik im smart and im good at it lmao
but another reason is bc like,, i think i've said this in the past but i LOVE appearing two-faced to others
Scirrus - 06/06/2018
does it seem kind of like a game
emma - 06/06/2018
and like,, the persona i've set up for myself around certain people is a not very aggressive one whatsoever
yes
so i like arguing with them and giving them that glimpse of bitchiness from me
Scirrus - 06/06/2018
hmmm idk tbh
u seem pretty removed from gut as a whole
emma - 06/06/2018
i want them to be like "oh shit she has another side to her?? is there more than what i thought?" idk i just love the feeling of people seeing me like that
oh i am
i'm getting into image shit again LOL
Острый Друг - 06/06/2018
idk why that makes me think of 3 +6 :thinking:
so you like it because it adds more complexity
to your identity
emma - 06/06/2018
yes! i want complexity for sure
no but like
i wanna originally be seen as shallow
and then i wanna show like
GLIMPSES
of complexity
also another thing is that whenever i take personality tests and it asks me about my behaviour i always try to look at myself through other people's eyes and it ends up confusing me because i'm so different around everyone that i have no idea who the real me is??
idk if that's 3 or soc or whatever but thats smt i do a lot
Scirrus - 06/06/2018
probably both tbh
Острый Друг - 06/06/2018
that seems more
3 than soc
way more 3 than soc lol
Scirrus - 06/06/2018
yeah i agree
Острый Друг - 06/06/2018
that is so 3 that i'm putting my own 3 into question lmao
emma - 06/06/2018
yeah see idk bc i was talking to someone on tumblr who REALLY thinks i'm a core 6 and they said that a lot of my evidence for 3 is just soc evidence sooo idrk what to think
and HAHAHA
Оddiту - 06/06/2018
stop feeding the 3s
emma - 06/06/2018
wait do you guys all think i'm a 3 though
Silverlingy - 06/06/2018
I’m beginning to wonder if most 6 fixes r just very obvious
And can like, be mistaken easily for the core
emma - 06/06/2018
mine definitely is
Silverlingy - 06/06/2018
Smae
allingy star - 06/06/2018
i think it is a lot of the time, especially when it's the second one in the tritype
Silverlingy - 06/06/2018
Yeah coz I think this is the case for every 6 fix I know lmao
Острый Друг - 06/06/2018
I'm going to bet 1600 shmeckles that she is a 3 core lol
Scirrus - 06/06/2018
if this dude is from tumblr i would be skeptical about his imput ngl(edited)
Silverlingy - 06/06/2018
Which dude
Острый Друг - 06/06/2018
Am I from tumblr
Silverlingy - 06/06/2018
Yes
Острый Друг - 06/06/2018
Ty
Silverlingy - 06/06/2018
Ur welcom
Scirrus - 06/06/2018
god i wish spicy was on tumblr
emma - 06/06/2018
im for sure 6-fixed second
Острый Друг - 06/06/2018
I don't
Silverlingy - 06/06/2018
Wew welcome to the 6 second club
emma - 06/06/2018
@Scirrus wait why
Silverlingy - 06/06/2018
Enjoy ur undercurrent of anxiety

Silverlingy - 06/06/2018
Plz giv 7
Scirrus - 06/06/2018
i dont hold the best opinion of tumblr typologists tbh
Silverlingy - 06/06/2018
Who is the tunblr typologist o_o
emma - 06/06/2018
@istj-hedonist
Scirrus - 06/06/2018
interesting
oh yeah she does type as 3 sx/sp
or 3 fix
iirc
emma - 06/06/2018
yeah lol
i think she's pretty good honestly
like everything she's said about my mbti/ivs is accurate
but she's set on me being cp6w7-3w4-1w9 and idkkk about that
Scirrus - 06/06/2018
why cant you be both soc and 3 core idgi(edited)
it could be right if the first two were switched
emma - 06/06/2018
yeah that's the only part that idk about LOL
it is probably right if they're switched
wait you dont think i could potentially be a 4 right
Scirrus - 06/06/2018
i dont
Острый Друг - 06/06/2018
No
Scirrus - 06/06/2018
the 3 core motivation is too clear
Острый Друг - 06/06/2018
You're 3 as 3 can be
emma - 06/06/2018
but can 3s be interested in finding who they truly are
like,, between personas
because i feel like i kind of use typology as a way to find my real self but i have an extremely hard time with it due to all the different personas i put on
but i still WANT to find myself
Silverlingy - 06/06/2018
w4?
emma - 06/06/2018
can my wing be reaaaally strong though
ive mistyped as a core 4 for a pretty long time actually
allingy star - 06/06/2018
yeah tbh wings can be really strong, i've been mistaken  for a 4 a lot before
emma - 06/06/2018
yeah!! once someone immediately thought i was a core 4 when they first talked to me
wait but how do i tell 3w4 with a rly strong w4 apart from 4w3 with a rly strong w3??(edited)
like what are the main differences
Оddiту - 06/06/2018
you're not a 4
Острый Друг - 06/06/2018
You're 3
Inb4 Is indecisive about type because of her tendency to be seen as more complex
Scirrus - 06/06/2018
3w4s and 4w3s can look similarly on the outside but a 3 is still driven by the 3 motivation above all else
also you don't seem withdrawn in any capacity tbh
allingy star - 06/06/2018
^
Evo - 06/06/2018
lingy pop - Yesterday at 11:40 PM
i don't agree with this tbh, i actually suspect that 3s in typology  are rare because they don't realize that they're 3 due to shit descriptions

yeah i've noticed that 3s descriptions...
they're a hecc @allingy star lol
Оddiту - 06/06/2018
and due to not wanting to have their identiy be figured out
Острый Друг - 06/06/2018
Cant be adaptive I'd you're stuck to one type :3ing:
Jerdle - 06/06/2018
istj-hedonist has made mistakes before (I'm supposedly an INFJ)
умилингос - 06/06/2018
istj hedonist also thinks 6s will forever be unhealthy anxious freaks
Evo - 06/06/2018
who is that? :kittyhypethonk:
умилингос - 06/06/2018
a person on tumblr
Evo - 06/06/2018
ah, i see
умилингос - 06/06/2018
quite popular i guess in typology tumblr
I've asked her about 6s and whenever she talks about them she says how she dislikes them for their "extreme neuroticism" and anxiety, and that they have lesser chances of ever being healthy people because ~that's just six~
Evo - 06/06/2018
wut...
yeah, i actually don't believe that.
like
at all...
emma - 06/06/2018
yeah ig that's true
she's good on mbti & iv stuff though
Jerdle - 06/06/2018
She doesn't get Ti.
emma - 06/06/2018
why not
Jerdle - 06/06/2018
Probably because she doesn't have any. Distilling reality down into principles is what Ti+N is all about (at least in the LII; ILEs are more inventive and less philosophical).(edited)
emma - 06/06/2018
yeah i mean honestly ti is hard to understand if you don't have it yourself
i dont rly understand it either
Jerdle - 06/06/2018
I would compare it to Fi, but I don't get Fi!
emma - 06/06/2018
lmaooo
Krayfish - 06/06/2018
I’d agree that ISTJhedonist does a pretty decent job most of the times (with a strong exclusion of her descriptions of 6 since she seems to have 0 neuroticism herself), but I’d imagine her view of soc is probably skewed a bit
Especially since she is describing it from a very so blind perspective
So what she’s saying is soc might not be all soc because you come across very 3 tbh
kierkegeek - 06/06/2018
she can sometimes be pretty biased
Krayfish - 06/06/2018
Yeah I definitely agree there

kierkegeek - 06/06/2018
every INFP in her eyes is already not worthy
or every 4 must be INFP
it's weird
Krayfish - 06/06/2018
For the most part
She’s better if your asking for descriptions, not so much for typing you
emma - 06/06/2018
hm that's a good point
i don't think she totally mistyped me though lmao
also i do think i have dom soc
Krayfish - 06/06/2018
Nah the way she typed you didn’t seem super off, she seemed to get your fixes close and pegged your tritype right
Just the order is debatable, and especially since your struggling to determine if your 3 or 6 core it works
emma - 06/07/2018
yeah!!
idk if im p6 or cp6 though (& she thinks im cp)
Evo - 06/07/2018
What lol
Phobic
emma - 06/07/2018
i'm phobic?
Krayfish - 06/07/2018
I didn’t see a strong preference for either tbh
kierkegeek - 06/07/2018
@emma hello btw, you here as well? :grin:
Evo - 06/07/2018
I think 3 is your core but yea phobic 6 fix
emma - 06/07/2018
wait why phobic though @Evo
emma - 06/07/2018
and yeah lol @kierkegeek
Evo - 06/07/2018
Because phobic 6 fixers over question and overtly display their doubt, like you've been doing this whole thread :P

Cp6 fixers are overly questioning but they are not overt about it. They are overt about their courage and strength. IF they happen to be overt about anything, it would be those things.
An example of this would be if someone were a cp6 fix, they'd most likely keep their questioning, doubt, or fears to themselves, and possibly only reveal it in dms. They want to literally counter the phobia.(edited)
emma - 06/07/2018
see but i'm not like this besides in typology lmao
like with literally everything else
also this is a typing thread and i do want my questions to be answered(edited)
Evo - 06/07/2018
They can counter the phobia by changing the it into being controversial, starting shit, being contrarian, etc.
Ok?
You're still a 3 lol
That last sentence came off somewhat entitled, tbh
So im going to see myself out.
You've had plenty of people give their input.
No need to be rude.
emma - 06/07/2018
lol i didn't mean it in that way whatsoever?? i find it rude how you automatically assumed that
Jerdle - 06/07/2018
You're a p6 fixer because you seem to have more of a focus on finding certainty by considering other opinions, rather than by knocking them down. @emma(edited)
emma - 06/07/2018
is this not a typing thread? is this thread not called type-emma? am i not allowed to ask questions? lmao idg this
kierkegeek - 06/07/2018
phew calm down, I think nobody wanted to be rude here
I think people indeed try to help you
Оddiту - 06/07/2018
You're a 3 and you will never in a million years let that be the end of it
just like a bunch of other 3s
but it is the end of it
Острый Друг - 06/07/2018
3w4 af
Fallingy Star - 06/12/2018
@emma can we log this?
emma - 06/27/2018
no because i don't think i'm a 3 @Fallingy Star
Fallingy Star - 06/27/2018
Alright well, we can't keep these up indefinitely and it's been radio silence for a week. So I'll talk to the mods about what kind of time limit to put on it. People seem pretty done with input so :shruggie:(edited)
Alright. We'll give you 4 days and then if we'll log it inclusive of there's nothing you're happy with.
Острый Друг - 06/27/2018
@Оddiту man it does seem to be that every person typed 3 never wants to accept it huh
allingy star - 06/27/2018
@Острый  Друг did you accept it
Острый Друг - 06/27/2018
I hope so
allingy star - 06/27/2018
same tbh
Оddiту - 06/27/2018
3s don't wanna be 3s
Острый Друг - 06/27/2018
What a very 3 thing to do(edited)
FaceyMcfaceface - 06/27/2018
Ahem I wanna be a 3 ÙwÚ
allingy star - 06/27/2018
god i wish that were me

FaceyMcfaceface - 06/27/2018
What's so bad about being a three hmmm :eyes:
гири ✌ - 06/27/2018
i mean... what ISNT bad about being a 3 :smirk:
FaceyMcfaceface - 06/27/2018
AHEM
eeeevverything
allingy star - 06/27/2018
god i wish i weren't a defective 3
FaceyMcfaceface - 06/27/2018
Aww I don't think you're defective my guy three hug
allingy star - 06/27/2018
no u :heart:
Острый Друг - 06/27/2018
Facey is the most wholesome 3 uwu
FaceyMcfaceface - 06/27/2018
Wholesome three sounds
Loving uwu :heart:(edited)
emma - 06/27/2018
it's not that i don't wanna be a 3
it's that i'm not one
Оddiту - 06/27/2018
typical
emma - 06/27/2018
i'm an soc-dom who seems like a 3 due to general soc-ness but i don't fit 3 in itself so much that i think it's my core
FaceyMcfaceface - 06/27/2018
You adapt your image to suit/impress others
You're 95% image focused
You don't know who the real you is
Soc does none of these things
Three does all of them
1: image core af, that narrows it down to 2, 3 or 4
2: you've got the whole social chameleon thing going on and as you said playing around with people's perception of you wins out against the desire of authenticity
3: conclusion: how could it not be 3w4
emma - 06/27/2018
strong heart fix? also, soc can be the cause of some of those things. maybe not all, but the first one for sure and also the second one
Острый Друг - 06/27/2018
i'd be hard pressed to believe you're not a core image
but what do you think you are
FaceyMcfaceface - 06/27/2018
No, soc doesn't do those first two things
Soc is about fitting in, seeking to find you place in a group, it doesn't however separate you from your identity or motivate you change your image
And I agree with Homie, way too much emphasis on image for you not to be an image core
умилингос - 06/27/2018
what else are you, if not 3?
emma - 06/27/2018
6
умилингос - 06/27/2018
you seem too certain of yourself
like, i start doubting my shit whenever someone comments on it. there's no way i'm not a 6, yet when evo says "i saw so much 7 in your q" i'm like "HMM :thinking: but what if im a 7?"
Льасльогашьд - 06/27/2018
Integration can be the source of 6, further proving 3.
умилингос - 06/27/2018
or just a 6 fix
i think integrated 3 will be honest with themself
Льасльогашьд - 06/27/2018
Or both.
emma - 06/27/2018
lmao not to get all defensive here but you don't know me
"too certain of myself" is the absolute last thing i'd ever call myself/anyone who knows me would ever call me
i actually think i could be disintegrating into 3 potentially
and i'm literally exactly like you said you are, like, 99% of the time @умилингос
just,,, it's even funny you say that because that's where most of my problems stem from. not being certain enough of myself. relying too much on external opinions/guidance to lead me through like. i doubt things IMMEDIATELY once they're being questioned.
emma - 06/27/2018
& maybe i do seem too certain of myself in this particular situation, and if you haven't seen me outside of this, it makes sense for you to assume that i'm generally like this. but i'm just letting you know that i'm not.
умилингос - 06/27/2018
well, if you're so set on type 6, then yeah
гири ✌ - 06/27/2018
I'm confused, if you knew your type, why not log the channel? :thinking:
умилингос - 06/27/2018
you know yourself best
in the end typology is bullshit you can live your life w/o it
Оddiту - 06/27/2018
because 3s need to be an eternal blackhole of guessing about their identity and receiving attention from other people(edited)
умилингос - 06/27/2018
just usually people refuse to admit to themselves that they're type Xs at first
i hated type 6
Острый Друг - 06/27/2018
Oddity do u hate 3s
Оddiту - 06/27/2018
No, they're just fucking ridiculous :smile:
Острый Друг - 06/27/2018
real shit
гири ✌ - 06/27/2018
to be fair receiving attention feels nice as fuck
allingy star - 06/27/2018
tru
сука? - 06/27/2018
i hate 3s because i hate myself
emma - 06/27/2018
because it would've been logged as 3? @гири ✌
гири ✌ - 06/27/2018
ask it to be logged as 6 :shrug::skin-tone-3:
emma - 06/27/2018
i hated type 6 at first too and i was verY set on type 3 but after reading into it more i realized that type 6 is more plausible for many reasons
fine. log it as 6w7 3w4 1w9.

сука? - 06/27/2018
gg
not a lot of help i suppose smh
гири ✌ - 06/27/2018
why did that sound passive aggressive as fuck lmaoo
сука? - 06/27/2018
because it was
гири ✌ - 06/27/2018
congrats on settling on a type!
didn't mean you :0
сука? - 06/27/2018
i think it was for her too
i mean she used hate right
гири ✌ - 06/27/2018
i'm back to being confused :thinking:
сука? - 06/27/2018
same what a trip
she knew best tho
гири ✌ - 06/27/2018
ya people know themselves best ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
emma - 06/27/2018
@гири ✌ what??? you literally JUST said to ask for it to be logged as 6. i wasn't being "passive aggressive as fuck lmaoo;" i was doing just what you told me to do. so what's your problem
гири ✌ - 06/27/2018
my pal I said it because u said you didn't want it logged, so you wanted it open for discussion, but you'd already settled
there's a hole somewhere in there
Оddiту - 06/27/2018
Seal it up bury it under 100 tons of concrete
FaceyMcfaceface - 06/27/2018
@Oddity um aktually™ it's fours that are always looking to find their identity, 3s identify with the ideal for success in their culture and therefore dissociate from their actual identities
And I'm pretty sure being the type ppl think of when they think of success isn't uwu all that ridiculous uwu
Оddiту - 06/27/2018
dissociating from their identity is exactly what is going on with all these type 3 denial people
FaceyMcfaceface - 06/27/2018
Exacc my guy
Оddiту - 06/27/2018
Miguel, Tim, Jerdle, emma... all the same :smile:
Острый Друг - 06/27/2018
Also m
me
FaceyMcfaceface - 06/27/2018
I don't know the others but I'm pretty sure Jerdie ain't no three, I see a 4 and a 6 much 3 is a doubt™
Damn these trademarks are practically invisible
allingy star - 06/27/2018
me too thanks
FaceyMcfaceface - 06/27/2018
switches to light theme ah, much better.
Oh and me2
Оddiту - 06/27/2018
I see them just fine in dark theme
Острый Друг - 06/27/2018
Trademark™
Оddiту - 06/27/2018
maybe it's because I use +1 text size
FaceyMcfaceface - 06/27/2018
Sounds likely
allingy star - 06/27/2018
i use normal font and can see the trademarks just fine tbh
Острый Друг - 06/27/2018
also same
but discord covers half of my screen
FaceyMcfaceface - 06/27/2018
I see em, they're just rather camouflaged. Who knows maybe it's my brightness settings
Оddiту - 06/27/2018
Discord covers all of my one monitor
Льасльогашьд - 06/27/2018
It shows better on desktop as well™.
Simply as upper index text with the same font colour.
emma - 06/27/2018
@гири ✌ did you say "ask it to be logged as 6" at one point in the conversation? yes, you did. that's it. you said that to me, i complied, and then you got frustrated? that i did just what you said?? there's a hole somewhere in THERE.
гири ✌ - 06/27/2018
i'm not frustrated i just pointed out that the way u said it seemed passive aggressive ay eff chill out
kierkegeek - 06/28/2018
@emma why are you so freaking defensive? if you are not a 3, bring arguments, not just saying "I'm not a 3". like real arguments, not just "I need outside guidance". it's real that we don't know you all, but maybe explain yourself, so that we can judge your actions or whatever properly, so that we come to a conclusion you are satisfied with. people got this first impression of you, probably a false one, but deal with it and don't have such an attitude. it's not how human interaction works, where you just want to discuss a freaking type..
умилингос - 06/28/2018
​i've always had problems with this one. i've never been sure exactly who i was. it seems
like i'm just a character, composed to be someone quirky and unique and different. i feel empty thinking
about it, and i'd love more than anything to be able to feel real and, just, myself. and i try to, i really do.
but i'll just unintentionally fall into a character voice/act. and i know when i do, but it's hard to control it.
honestly this is like extremely 3
you didn't say you struggle with your inner guidance, you said you struggle with your identity
Острый Друг - 06/28/2018
that reads like a typical 3 description online(edited)
i don't doubt her for sure having a 6 fix lol(edited)
умилингос - 06/28/2018
​I've felt like I can never decide on anything. I've never had a concrete desire, only random
spikes of interest. My identity is solid and I know how to support myself, but what I truly WANT and how to
get it is elusive to me. The world is my oyster, and that in itself is the problem. There are too many
possibilities.
for comparison this is how i answered it
Острый Друг - 06/28/2018
i wonder how i answered
умилингос - 06/28/2018
afaik my "supporting myself" meant physically supporting myself
Острый Друг - 06/28/2018
that is from the ennea plus questionnaire right?
умилингос - 06/28/2018
yeah
but then i go to say that i never know what i want and there are too many possibilities, which i then go to consult other people for
ofc there's no doubt that there's very strong 3 and 6 for emma, but which one is the core is the question ig
also again, when you answered this
i try to carry around a single persona with me ALL the time, so people dont see
me as fake. which is smt im scared of ppl seeing me as. i identify with one image now, rather than 10
different ones.


is veery 3, compared to answering about how you seek experience and confidence to know what to do next
im interested in what you think really because i wonder how you see it(edited)
Острый Друг - 06/28/2018
what is her gut
8?
умилингос - 06/28/2018
could be 1
idk havent read what others said
emma - 06/28/2018
@kierkegeek but i did give actual arguments? when i said i was a 6, the argument presented against me being a 6 was that i seemed too certain of myself & i didn't instantly start doubting when questioned. i responded to that by saying that i was literally like that in every situation i've been questioned in. soooo check the chat history maybe??
kierkegeek - 06/28/2018
that's what I mean
this attitude
I checked it
умилингос - 06/28/2018
in the end typology is meant for questioning and discovering yourself, and you change through the process. and if someone told me "you're this type, not this one" i would want to have a discussion with them about why that seems so.
and you getting mad because people told you to log it as 6 is ridiculous, because you seem so set on denying that you're a 3 and saying that you're a 6 so why not just log it? if you genuinely want a discussion, stop acting like you're above everyone who's typing you. we don't know you but we would like to help you, and you're just not letting us do that
emma - 06/28/2018
what the literal hell are you on about
i said
log it as 6?????
умилингос - 06/28/2018
ok
kierkegeek - 06/28/2018
girl
are you okay?
you won't come far with this attitude, seriously
reflect on yourself pls
emma - 06/28/2018
what attitude
wouldn't you get frustrated if someone keeps making claims against you that are obviously false?
kierkegeek - 06/28/2018
I wouldn't be so unthankful in the end
people took effort to type you
they had good intentions
but you are like "close this log?????"
"what the literally hell are you on????"
emma - 06/28/2018
literal*
kierkegeek - 06/28/2018
:clap:
Острый Друг - 06/28/2018
watching this train wreck has me like :whoapopcorn:
kierkegeek - 06/28/2018
:grin:
Острый Друг - 06/28/2018
good run, everybody take 5
kierkegeek - 06/28/2018
I can't stand such people. asking for help and then being so unthankful wtf
or such an attitude, better to say
Острый Друг - 06/28/2018
:typing: :whoapopcorn:
emma - 06/28/2018
again, people are making false claims. claims that have clear evidence against them. claims that are not what i said whatsoever. how is presenting those people with what i actually said rather than the false, altered version in their minds equal to being unthankful?
умилингос - 06/28/2018
the "clear evidence" is your word that you are NOT like what you wrote in your questionnaire
also, really, correcting grammar in an argument?
kierkegeek - 06/28/2018
^
Острый Друг - 06/28/2018
^^*
you know this kinda reminds me of this
emma - 06/03/2018
ik this might sound bad but like,, i wanna be seen as two-faced lmao
like i just loVE the idea of there being multiple sides to me
and like
people discovering that about me
which is why i like to present a ton of inconsistency in my personas
like i always try to give people glimpses at there potentially being another side of me they don't yet know about
and i play around with stuff like that a LOT
because i find it really endearing in others, also
i just love the whole "clown with a sad side" or "asshole with a heart" sort of thing
and i strive to achieve that with others
and i've been in denial about me being like that for a while now, but i just realized that this is something i do a TON
:whoapopcorn:
умилингос - 06/28/2018
:hypethonk:
emma - 06/28/2018
i did give arguments for being a 6. i countered @умилингос 's arguments as to why i'm not a 6, and that is a good argument because that's the main thing that you guys said as to why i'm not a 6.
i never got mad about you guys telling me to log it as 6. i actually said that i wanteD you to log it as 6. so i literally have no idea what the hell you were on about. because the first thing, i somewhat understand. maybe i didn't give good enough arguments. fair enough. but i never, ever got mad that people were telling me to log it as 6.
Острый Друг - 06/28/2018
that is true
emma - 06/28/2018
@умилингос like you said, you change through the process.
умилингос - 06/28/2018
maybe it's just the way you say things, but you seem like a cornered animal attacking everything. i never meant to make your arguments invalid, but the way you express yourself just sounds like a constant attack
so that's why both giri and sx-sp reacted like that
Острый Друг - 06/28/2018
they just said she sounded passive-agressive af when she said log it as 6
not that she was mad that someoen told her to log as 6
emma - 06/28/2018
also i had to correct it lol she put it as a quotation???
Острый Друг - 06/28/2018
multiple question marks aren't helping your case sweety
emma - 06/28/2018
thank you for having eyes and a brain @Острый  Друг
Острый Друг - 06/28/2018
and a big mouth
умилингос - 06/28/2018
lmao
emma - 06/28/2018
lol no but why would i not correct it if it's put as a quotation? you simply don't quote things that aren't what i actually said
умилингос - 06/28/2018
ok, wait, emma
do you actually want to discuss, or are we all just being petty herE?
Острый Друг - 06/28/2018
the sub-communication behind the things you say surface level emma
i know you know this
умилингос - 06/28/2018
cuz you're obviously set
and/or
Острый Друг - 06/28/2018
does adding multiple question marks to this sentence not make it you read it in a bitchy tone????
умилингос - 06/28/2018
enjoying people confronting you
cuz i know i enjoy confrontation as well
kierkegeek - 06/28/2018
yes it's how you expres sit
constant attacks
and that's why I said reflect on yourself
so that you can control how you come off
Острый Друг - 06/28/2018
it's ok
she knows
kierkegeek - 06/28/2018
yes
good
умилингос - 06/28/2018
if you change your mind emma, i'm here to discuss
Острый Друг - 06/28/2018
hey don't just stop typing
what a tease
you've been typing for at least 10 mins :blobsweat~3:
emma - 06/28/2018
i believe that you can't read tone through text, and i prefer not to make assumptions based on that with other people. but now that we've gotten to this point, yes, i am obviously aware of the way i'm coming off. i'm not blind lmao (unlike many of the people in this conversation). i don't need to do any reflection on myself. either way though, you should be looking more at what i'm saying rather than how i'm saying it, especially since we're fighting, again, over TEXT. the points i've made have all been valid, and also unlike most people here, i bother to actually check the facts/chat history before laying accusations upon you guys. but honestly, you guys aren't coming off too great either?? @kierkegeek especially: your tone and attitude and everything is -extremely- condescending and i don't get why you care so much about my attitude/expression? it isn't? your problem? that's something i know whether i wanna fix or not and i can sure as hell keep having this sort of attitude if i want and there's no need for you to get all worked up over it. if you want to stop talking to me because my attitude is hurting YOU, you can stop talking to me. doesn't mean i'm gonna change it in the future; doesn't mean i want to.
kierkegeek - 06/28/2018
I'm definitely not hurt, you missed the point there
but it's ok for now
I won't say anything anymore
Острый Друг - 06/28/2018
unlike most people here, i bother to actually check the facts/chat history
glad to receive recognition :3ing:
умилингос - 06/28/2018
it just doesn't make sense that you have SO MUCH 3 in your questionnaire and almost NO superego at all
at first i just wanted to argue with you im not gonna lie but now i want to know
Острый Друг - 06/28/2018
it's obvious she isn't a superego core
did you read the wall of text
умилингос - 06/28/2018
yeah i did
it's just not directed at me
Острый Друг - 06/28/2018
basically said "i know i come off as a bitch but #SorryNotSorry"

умилингос - 06/28/2018
as i provided evidence for everything lol
Острый Друг - 06/28/2018
she is reactive though
умилингос - 06/28/2018
lol definitely
and it's from that vein that i UNDERSTAND why she's doing it that i can disregard it
Острый Друг - 06/28/2018
i'm very tempted to say 468 if we're being honest
умилингос - 06/28/2018
you can be reactive af w/o triple reactive tho
like me
plus i don't see any brooding shit anywhere
Острый Друг - 06/28/2018
she doesn't strike me as a 1 or a 9
умилингос - 06/28/2018
in her q she said she would give up her sensitivities
Острый Друг - 06/28/2018
6 is basically confirmed
умилингос - 06/28/2018
no 4 would ever say that
Острый Друг - 06/28/2018
yea probably not
368
умилингос - 06/28/2018
i could see 6 +8 just from the way she talks and like
seeks confrontation to prove herself
that's me af
Острый Друг - 06/28/2018
ya for sure
@emma do you at least agree with 3 fix tho
emma - 06/28/2018
yes definitely
Острый Друг - 06/28/2018
gotcha
emma - 06/28/2018
my heart fix -needs- to be 3
умилингос - 06/28/2018
and the 8?
or do you relate to more 1?
tbh 9 is out of the question
Острый Друг - 06/28/2018
easily
lowkey hopes she says 9
Umi
умилингос - 06/28/2018
hm?
Острый Друг - 06/28/2018
how image conscious are you
умилингос - 06/28/2018
not waaay too much, i think my heart fix is last
why?
but tbh i do seek out to know how ppl see me
so i can better understand them and myself
Острый Друг - 06/28/2018
i just wanted to check if 6s relate to image if it's anywhere as close as Emma said she does
умилингос - 06/28/2018
no, i don't
Острый Друг - 06/28/2018
but you're also So blind so
умилингос - 06/28/2018
and i never actively change myself
yeah so blind
haha
i onyl change myself when im lying to MYSELF
and i do that often.. self deception, 2 stuff
emma - 06/28/2018
wait why do you guys think i'm 8-fixed
never thought that of myself
i always thought i was either 1-fixed or 9-fixed lmao
умилингос - 06/28/2018
you just seem so with how you talk and stuff, but im not ruling out 1 as well
you don't seem liek you'd shut up for the good of a tranquil environment
emma - 06/28/2018
why not 9
умилингос - 06/28/2018
lol
^
emma - 06/28/2018
yeah i wouldn't haha
умилингос - 06/28/2018
9 blends in more
Острый Друг - 06/28/2018
1 is still debatable but yea 9 is a big no no
emma - 06/28/2018
what's a good question to decide between 8 and 1 then?
умилингос - 06/28/2018
there was something i saw earlier that was specifically very 1
that you said you bottle your anger up first
and then it explodes
but that is not very indicative
Острый Друг - 06/28/2018
how long would you say you bottle your anger
and i guess also how often
умилингос - 06/28/2018
and for what reason
lol
emma - 06/28/2018
okay well i think i am definitely gut-last because i'm not very preoccupied with those sorts of things
but when i get angry about stuff i always feel some sort of a need to express it/get my anger out in some way. it's usually not in a very direct manner due to having many concerns as to what people think of me and being careful about how i express myself bc i gotta keep up with appearances buT anyways i do have a hard time bottling my anger for a long time but i feel like an 8 should be more direct with it? idk
умилингос - 06/28/2018
so much image in here lol
are you passive aggressive?
Острый Друг - 06/28/2018
in how they express angers 1 typically bottle and bare with it for much longer than 8s
i've seen 1 anger described as much nastier than 8s because it's been bottled for so long
умилингос - 06/28/2018
but tbh isnt that for like core
if hers is last, it will be much more tamped down
and influenced by the core
which... we aren't certain of ? lol
Острый Друг - 06/28/2018
i guess
but idk a lot of people say that for the most part they feel their tritype equally
умилингос - 06/28/2018
hmm yeah could be
for me it's like
6 above all
and then 8 and 2 shift around
Острый Друг - 06/28/2018
right
yea for me i actually feel it noramlly of like 3 being first then 7 then 9
potentially i could see some days where i for sure feel more 7 as oppose to 3
умилингос - 06/28/2018
you're 3 and i'm 6 and we're trying to type her between the two lol
not sure how much she relates to either of us tho
Острый Друг - 06/28/2018
she told me i have brain and eyes so that must count for something
she also said she took it back but i'll ignore that
minor detail

умилингос - 06/28/2018
lmfao
so she must relate to u more then, :three: confirmed
jk jk
emma - 06/28/2018
for me i barely relate to any gut types at all
bc i am definitely gut-last
but i'm not sure... like i don't really bottle up anger because i always wanna get it out in some way but it does tend to be in a v passive-aggressive way
sooo is that more 8 or 1? i don't rly bottle it up like a 1 but i don't handle it in a direct manner like an 8
or maybe it could be 8w9/9w8 due to general like... contradictory-ness and how 8 and 9 are pretty much total opposites
умилингос - 06/28/2018
i think it might be 8 + image consciousness
like you're aware of how it will impact your image and stuff
that's again coming back to 3...
emma - 06/28/2018
but i dont think im 8-like in any way
умилингос - 06/28/2018
hm
emma - 06/28/2018
i'm not 9-fixed, yeah, because i'm not anti-confrontational whatsoever
умилингос - 06/28/2018
it's hard to tell, especially not knowing your core
emma - 06/28/2018
but i'm not like
an 8 JFKDJF
умилингос - 06/28/2018
or well not being certain of it
emma - 06/28/2018
yeah yeah
Michiel zmivh - 06/28/2018
i mean, you could have a weak 8 fix :shrug::skin-tone-3:
since your gut type IS weak
I dont look like a 3 AT ALL lmao and its still my fix
emma - 06/28/2018
but how do i determine weak 8-fix vs weak 1-fix
cause i'm going between 8 and 1 right now for that fix
what do i seem more like to you guys
Krayfish - 06/28/2018
You're 36x right?(edited)
Double competency vs double reactivity
умилингос - 06/28/2018
imo you should settle between 3 and 6 for core
first
emma - 06/28/2018
okay and how do i do that
because like
i could really be eitherJFKDJF
they're both extremely plausible and they're both strong for sure
most people say that i seem like a 3 from my main struggles/fears that i've told them about, but i act a lot more like a 6 while having conversations and stuff
which i think is the. case
умилингос - 06/28/2018
Do i seem like a 6 to you?
many times my 6ness is not apparent
Krayfish - 06/28/2018
Nah you vibe 6
умилингос - 06/28/2018
what im saying is that you can't really tell only from how you act
what does that mean lol
what is this vibe people are getting
but doesn't matter rn
emma - 06/28/2018
@Krayfish what do i vibe as
Krayfish - 06/28/2018
3 core with a strong 6 fix
Michiel zmivh - 06/28/2018
dude I think we've gone over 3 vs 6 over and over again
the only thing that remain is just for you to decide
emma - 06/28/2018
i feel like too many people have said that i'm not like a 3 whatsoever to be a 3
like literally everyone besides you guys
умилингос - 06/28/2018
there's a lot of misconceptions about 3s tbh
emma - 06/28/2018
has said that i have to be a 6-core with a secondary 3-fix
Krayfish - 06/28/2018
Then go with that
умилингос - 06/28/2018
what were their reasons?
Krayfish - 06/28/2018
If you feel as though people here aren't getting to the point of your personality, then why consider their arguments?
умилингос - 06/28/2018
yeah tbh that as well
Krayfish - 06/28/2018
Just to clarify I wasn't trying to be agressive
I was genuinely curious
emma - 06/28/2018
don't think i don't act this way around people who say i'm a 6. i'm getting all sorts of mixed opinions on what my enneagram type is so it's hard to just pick one and stick w it
i wanT to think i'm a 3 but there are plenty of contradictions to it
likewise with 6, but maybe not as many
Michiel zmivh - 06/28/2018
dude people are gonna question your type all the time, so
just go with what feels right in the end
like, you have a lot of both 6 and 3 to pass as one or the other, so it doesnt matter that much
differences between enneatypes arent that exclusive
especially with types connected through (dis)integration lines
emma - 06/28/2018
no but so so many people have been like "you're not a 3 lmao" and it makes more sense that someone would want to be a 3 than a 6 so if i just say i'm a 6 then everyone would probably be like "oh okay yeah makes sense"
also i'm not sure that i integrate into 6 because i don't behave like a healthy 6 while integrating (but that could also be due to a strong secondary 6-fix?) buuuut i'm also not sure that i disintegrate into 3 lol so the (dis)integration gets confusing
умилингос - 06/28/2018
what about integration to 9?
do you relate to that?
emma - 06/28/2018
more than integration to 6
when i'm in a rly good mood and everything's going well i get a lot more relaxed & chill
умилингос - 06/28/2018
hmm yeah i relate to that tbh, i have less of a need to lash out or prove myself and my worth
cuz i just Am
well, go with 6 if it feels right, really
emma - 06/28/2018
yeah exactly!! i always wanna prove myself and when everything's certain and i don't feel that need anymore, it feels rly good and i just calm down and chill out more
my 3 fix is undeniably strong though
i also have dom soc though sooo
i feel like that caN contribute to general 3-ness/heart type-ness
умилингос - 06/28/2018
tbh the way you say it "when everything's certain" is pretty 6 lol
just go with what you feel is right
anyway, so if we consider you having 6 core, that will make it superego
and if you have 1 as gut, that will be double superego
emma - 06/28/2018
what does superego mean?
умилингос - 06/28/2018
it's like your actions are guided by what is perceived to be "right"
1, 2 and 6 are like that
emma - 06/28/2018
didnt you say i have no superego at all or smt
умилингос - 06/28/2018
idk it didnt seem like you did from what we talked then, but im just saying, if we consider you being 6 core + having 1 fix
that would make the superego stronger
as in you'd be more aware
of what is "right" and expected of you to do, and you'll feel a need to follow that

emma - 06/28/2018
i mean i feel that to a certain extent
умилингос - 06/28/2018
even if it means going against your wishes
whereas if you had 8 gut
that's an id type, along with 3
emma - 06/28/2018
what did i say that made you think i didn't have a lot of superego
умилингос - 06/28/2018
those types go with their wishes despite what is "right" to do
emma - 06/28/2018
or that i wasnt superego core
умилингос - 06/28/2018
well, you were just so certain with how you were expressing yourself
emma - 06/28/2018
oh i think i fit id more lol
умилингос - 06/28/2018
yeah that's the vibe i got as well
that's why i said that
which is why your gut might be 8, if you are indeed 6 core
emma - 06/28/2018
ohhhh okay
умилингос - 06/28/2018
then you'll have double id and be more assertive
emma - 06/28/2018
yeah no i dont feel superego lol
do you know about the p6/cp6 distinction?
could that have an impact
умилингос - 06/28/2018
hmm maybe? maybe that could have an impact on the p/cp difference in itself, not the other way around, but im still of the belief that every 6 has and can be both in different situations
emma - 06/28/2018
yeah i think so too tbh
умилингос - 06/28/2018
but 6 is definitely superego and will definitely go against itself if it means being safe or certain of something
like for example
i will shut tf up if im angry at a teacher or smth
because i know it will compromise my situation as a student if i do lash out at them
my 3 friend does not give a shit about this and argues with teachers constantly
he also has 8 so thats double assertive lol
dear god i once lashed out at a teacher
and like
i started feeling faint lol
i was like "what the FUCK did i just do"
could be in vein of 6>3 disintegration
a false assertiveness... or something
ok i went off on a tangent here sorry :sweat_smile:
emma - 06/28/2018
hfkdjfjdd no it's okay
i'm just like
torn
emma - 06/28/2018
because idkJFKDJD
умилингос - 06/28/2018
ok but keep in mind i have double superego haha
6 + 2
so i'm much more inclined to follow rules in situations like that
idk
emma - 06/28/2018
i would say i tend to lean more id/assertive because i have a very difficult time resisting temptations and i care more about accomplishing my wishes/goals than doing what's "right"
like if i were really mad at a teacher i'd have a hard time noT acting on it lmao
умилингос - 06/28/2018
this is where ppl see 3
emma - 06/28/2018
i always sort of think "this is what i want to do and im not satisfied until i do it"
умилингос - 06/28/2018
also, it could be that you're not relating to the dis/integration because you haven't found how it manifests within yourself tbh
3 disintegration also didnt sit right with me until i figured out HOW i did it
emma - 06/28/2018
how do you do it?
умилингос - 06/28/2018
how i disintegrate?
emma - 06/28/2018
yes
howd you find out you disintegrated into 3
умилингос - 06/28/2018
well, first i start leaning to my w7 (become erratic, irrational, impulsive, etc) but if that doesn't work and i spiral even more, i start becoming really cynical, distant, distrustful. i try to cut off my emotions and my fears because they're not productive to my goal. i start using my own academic success to differentiate and make myself better than others ("i'm too good for them, they don't have perfect grades, i do, so of course i'll make it and not them")
i just become superficial and self destructive in every way possible
and that "fake assertiveness"
i become really bossy as well, because i truly believe that my opinion is faultless, because ofc i know better than everyone else, i'm above them(edited)
i stop giving a shit about what others think of me, but in a way that will lead me to compromise what ive worked for for all the time before and then regret it later
emma - 06/28/2018
what if i'm just heavily disintegrating into 3 rn which is why i seem more 3-like
умилингос - 06/28/2018
that's a possibility
but what leads you to be disintegrated
is it some heavy uncertainty in your life?
emma - 06/28/2018
not sure
jfkdjdjd
uhhhhhh
idk
like
i really don't think i have an 8-fix
so like
361 makes the most sense in terms of id vs superego
either that or 638 but i don't have an 8-fix
at least i don't think i do
idk just like,,, the things you said you do during disintegration are pretty general things for me, not necessarily during disintegration. but that could be me having a strong 3-fix though so idk
if integration is always positive then i'm probably not a core 3 because if anything, i get a lot more 6-like under stress (but i am not a 9 LOL)
i've never really thought i was a 6 until someone brought it to me and said i seemed like one. before that, i resonated entirely with 3. and even now, i'm not sure. it might be a me being in denial sort of thing, but i don't consciously relate to the 6's core fear that much? i often do have difficulty knowing which way to go with things and i often do seek external guidance, but it's not, like, my #1 priority in life. i wouldn't call it the thing i'm focused on most. most of my struggles are image-related and most of my focus is on image. and i have gone to drastic measures before to change people's perceptions of me and my mind is constantly on how i'm seen by others. and this has been consistent through most of my life, while my 6-ness has kind of been more recent. soooo idk :/
and whenever i self-type as 6 (because i alternate between 6 and 3 as cores), i just feel so out of place when looking at my friends who are heart cores. i'm like, "how are thEY heart cores and not me??? i have the strongest image-focus out of anyone i've ever met"
but on the other hand, that could potentially be disintegration into 3. or it could be dom soc. or it could be a strong 3-fix.

FaceyMcfaceface - 06/28/2018
Agre
Scirrus - 07/01/2018
I will reaffirm 3 core with 6 fix, yes
emma - 07/01/2018
and my frequent overthinking/trust issues can stem from having a strong 6-fix rather than being a core 6?
alsO do u guys have an idea of what my variants might be
Krayfish - 07/01/2018
So/sp
And idk on your other question
Scirrus - 07/02/2018
so/sp sounds good
emma - 07/05/2018
guys wait wait
can a 3 be willing to hear bad things about themselves/flaws?
kierkegeek - 07/05/2018
do you see them as flaws?
emma - 07/05/2018
well i mean yeah i guess
but it's only really when discussing typology with others
but generally i like hearing any sort of information about myself to either work on it or add it to one of my personas
so it all does tie back to image-related purposes but it's weird bc i'd expect to not like hearing bad things about myself if i'm a 3?
actually now that i think about it idk if i rly enjoy hearing bad things about myselfJFKDJF
it's mainly just in typology that idm it
but idk do y'all still think i'm a 3
also i feel like i don't take ridiculous pride in myself too much and if i genuinely am objectively bad at something i can admit it
but i hate being bad at things to begin with
oh & something i do a lot is that i brag in a rly non-obvious way. bc i feel like obvious bragging always achieves the opposite effect and pushes people away so i try to let people know that i'm good at things without explicitly stating it
sort of like,,, let my successes speak for themselves lmao
actual bragging makes me uncomfortable and i don't do it frequently
but i for sure want everyone to know that i'm good at things and i always find rly lowkey ways to let them know
i have a BIG fear of people not knowing that i'm good at the things i'm good at but the way i get people to realize that i am seems very not 3-like to me??? idk though
emma - 07/05/2018
but i am very 3-like in other ways as in i constantly change myself to match whoever i'm talking to's expectations of me. like either however i want them to perceive me or however i'm expected to behave by them (mostly the second one though, unless i'm in a "let's change ppl's perceptions of me" mood). i always try to match that because it leads to me being well-liked/seen as consistent (in contrast to how fake i rly am) by the people i'm with.
but also, because of this, it'd be hell for me to be with my family and all of a sudden have some of my acquaintances from school (two groups that have TOTALLY different ideas of who i am) meet because i wouldn't know how to act and ahhh. i also just way prefer one-on-one interactions because of that. i'm just so different around pretty much everyone that being in a group with multiple people will always confuse at least one person and have them see me as being fake
but as i've mentioned a bit in the past, i do kind of like being seen as fake because it feels so thrilling to me?? so i'm sort of torn between matching people's expectations of me or going totally against them although the first thing (and safest thing) i always do is match them
anYWAYS sorry that was a lot but what do you guys think like based on all that
FaceyMcfaceface - 07/05/2018
Of course they can
You sound like an sp 3
Counter type: sp3s unlike the other two kinds just keep their heads down and let their work speak for itself
Sp/so I'd say
FaceyMcfaceface - 07/05/2018
And on a side note, threes aren't narcissists; they can admit their flaws and don't necessarily think of themselves as above others
emma - 07/05/2018
would the sp in so/sp work too?? like could i also get sp traits from that
bc i think im so/sp
it's not that i don't show off or i keep my head down entirely but i don't do it in an obnoxious way
because i know what effect that usually has and i don't wanna attain that
Острый Друг - 07/05/2018
What do you think of this
Personality Type Three: The Motivator
The Success-Oriented, Pragmatic Type

I now release...

being obsessed by my hostile feelings toward others.

believing that sabotaging others will make things better for me.

feeling jealous of others and their good fortune.

my fear of failing and being humiliated.

fearing that I am inadequate and will be rejected.

feeling that I must conceal my mistakes and limitations.

closing down my feelings in order to function.

betraying my own integrity to get the admiration of others.

attempting to misrepresent myself and my abilities.

the grandiose expectations I have of myself.

craving constant attention and affirmation.

using arrogance to compensate for my own insecurity.

desiring to impress others with my performance.

concealing myself behind masks.

comparing myself with others.

driving myself relentlessly to be the best.

I now affirm...

that I have value regardless of my achievements.

that I am centered and emotionally available.

that I am caring and have a good heart.

that I take in the love others give me.

that I am responsible to those who look up to me.

that I am happy to work for the good of others.

that I develop my true talents by accepting who I am.

that I delight in the accomplishments and successes of others.

that I can reveal my real self without being afraid.
emma - 07/05/2018
wait what is that
a type 3 description?
Острый Друг - 07/05/2018
Something like that
Problems the type 3 faces
emma - 07/05/2018
yes
i relate 100% to the "i now release" part
i guess the "i now affirm" part is more how to improve??
Острый Друг - 07/05/2018
Ya
I can link the page for the other types of you are interested in reading it
emma - 07/05/2018
sure if you want? it's mainly btwn 3 and 6 though but i'm leaning 3 because like 95% of my struggles are image-related and 95% of my focus is on image
i do seek external guidance a lot and i second-guess a lot and i'm very indecisive but those are more side things sort of?? like they're not huGE motivators for me and i'm not suPER focused on 6 things
Острый Друг - 07/05/2018
Yea 6 isn't really about image but I do think for sure it's your Fix
emma - 07/05/2018
yeah def
but tbh a lot of the things i'm referring to when i think of 6 things for me ARE image-related... i seek external guidance mainly for myself and for image-related purposes
like how in that post you showed me it said 3s seek constant attention and affirmation
that's me
also someone told me that 6s tend to hate being the center of attention/feeling superior to others whereas 3s enjoy it
so i think core 3 probably makes more sense in the end
what do u think lol @Острый  Друг
Острый Друг - 07/05/2018
Well the reason 6s seek external guidance is because they dont trust themselves to do or handle things on their own so they quell their anxieties when they have that external structure
Oh yea for sure 3s enjoy it lol
Ya I agree with what you said
emma - 07/05/2018
well i for sure have a strong secondary 6-fix because i do relate to that
when i have to make big decisions i frequently tend to consult external sources for guidance
but i also feel like i could be fine handling things on my own?? like when external guidance is there and available for me to use, i enjoy using it, but if there's nobody to turn to, i don't have too much of an "i'm screwed" mentality. like i'm fine with it you know
which is why i'm probably only 6w7 second and 3w4 first
Острый Друг - 07/05/2018
That sounds about right
emma - 07/05/2018
@Острый  Друг what do u think my gut fix is
Острый Друг - 07/05/2018
Hmmm
I dont have a clue
Probably not 9?
I'd guess either 1 or 8
emma - 07/05/2018
why not
i think either 1 or 9
Острый Друг - 07/05/2018
you don't seem to be particularly plagued with the problems of 9 but i could be wrong
i think 1 might be more fitting
Personality Type Nine: The Peacemaker
The Easygoing, Phlegmatic Type
I now release...

not taking an active interest in my own life.
turning away from whatever is umpleasant or difficult.
feeling that there is nothing I can do to improve my life.
being numb and emotionally unavailable.
refusing to see my own aggressions.
ignoring problems until they become overwhelming.
all dependency and fear of being on my own.
all wishful thinking and giving up too soon.
neglecting myself and my own legitimate needs.
seeking quick, easy "solutions" to my problems.
feeling threatened by significant changes in my life.
losing myself in comforting habits and routines.
feeling that most things are just too much trouble.
all inattentiveness and forgetfulness.
going along with others to keep the peace.
living through others and not developing myself.
I now affirm...

that I am confident, strong, and independent.
that I develop my mind and think things through.
that I am awake and alert to the world around me.
that I am proud of myself and my abilities.
that I am steadfast and dependable in difficult times.
that I look deeply into myself without fear.
that I am excited about my future.
that I am a powerful, healing force in my world.
that I actively embrace all that life brings.
vs
Personality Type One: The Reformer
The Rational, Idealistic Type
I now release...

holding myself and others to impossible standards.
my fear of losing control and becoming irrational.
my fear of being condemned for being wrong.
refusing to see my own contradictions.
rationalizing my own behavior.
obsessing about things I cannot change.
all bitterness and disappointment with the world.
feeling that other people's beliefs and values threaten mine.
believing that I am in a position to judge others.
driving myself and others to be perfect.
ignoring my own emotional and physical distress.
feeling angry, impatient, and easily annoyed.
fearing and disowning my body and my feelings.
allowing my desire for order and efficiency to control my life.
automatically focusing on what is wrong with things.
feeling that it is up to me to fix everything.
I now affirm...

that I can allow myself to relax and enjoy life.
that the best I can do is good enough.
that I am grateful that others have many things to teach me.
that I can make mistakes without condemning myself.
that my feelings are legitimate and that I have a right to feel them.
that I treat others with tenderness and respect.
that I am gentle and forgiving of myself.
that I am compassionate and forgiving of others.
that life is good and unfolding in miraculous ways.
emma - 07/05/2018
oh yeah i for sure relate to 1 more
actually i relate to 1 a lot
emma - 07/06/2018
wait could you send the one for 8 please??
i'm considering being 8-fixed now lmao
Оddiту - 07/06/2018
3 as fuck
emma - 07/06/2018
@Оddiту me?
Оddiту - 07/06/2018
yes
emma - 07/06/2018
oh bahaha
yeah i mean
i think so
not sure about 1-fix or 8-fix though
okAY wait can someone compare 6 core + strong 3-fix with 3 core + strong 6-fix? because i honestly relate so much to both 3 and 6, and i've been told by others that i act a lot more like a 6,,, soooo idk. i'm for sure one or the other. i just need some external guidance on this (whichhhh sounds more 6 on its own? jfksjfksj) so yeAH thanks
pho - 07/07/2018
dont go by behavior
core fear/motivation
and how you express or experience the primary emotion in each center
emma - 07/07/2018
@pho but i dont know because i relate to the core fear/motivation of both 3 and 6 pretty much equally
pho - 07/07/2018
how would you describe your understanding of both
3 integrates to 6 and 6 disints to 3
so to discern 3/6 core
describe your experience of and relationship to shame/fear

emma - 07/07/2018
well i've already described those haven't i lol
i mean like
in the questionnaire and in the convos on here
i just don't know which is STRONGER
Scirrus - 07/07/2018
look back throughout the chat in here
it looks like 3 to me
emma - 07/07/2018
core 3?
Scirrus - 07/07/2018
yeah
emma - 07/07/2018
did you see any signs on 6 integration/9 disintegration
of
Scirrus - 07/07/2018
i'd have to look back to make sure but you said that your 6-ish ness has been more of a recent thing right? that could be a sign of integration perhaps
but i don't know too much about 3 -> 6 tbh
emma - 07/07/2018
yeah maybe
but it isn't necessarily like
healthy 6 traits
i don't know like i don't relate too much to 3 disintegration or 6 integration... maybe i just haven't had enough life experience for it?
if anything, i relate to 3 integration and 6 disintegration but i'm not a core 9 JFKSJFKJS
Scirrus - 07/07/2018
i would consider relating to the core as the most important thing
over integration/disintegration fitting perfectly
pho - 07/07/2018
describe em again with newer words(edited)
it's been 4 months since you posted q/a
сука? - 07/07/2018
okay so in general the differences between the two  ? 6 disintegrates to 3 competitively keeping up an image & defensively testing themselves against ridicule in rather unhealthy ways.  3 integrates to 6 to levy the need to stand out more cooperatively. they really contrast @emma
emma - 07/08/2018
see but i relate to both of those things when i'm not under stress/integrating which just gets me confused because i'm not sure which is brought out more during those periods of time @сука?
like i have issues with both being too competitive and trying too hard to impress people and relying on others too much for guidance and help
so integration and disintegration don't really help that much in this case
since they're both strong
сука? - 07/08/2018
how do you cope with stressful emotions?(edited)
do you a. detach try to numb everything out or b.  reach for whatever standard of life or system you can to quell them and feel protected from it?(edited)
@emma
b. moreso embracing of the emotions as well seeing it as a necessary precaution to threats
сука? - 07/08/2018
like i mean one's gotta be more dominant
emma - 07/08/2018
it depends on the situation
but probably more b?? don't know though
when i'm stressed i tend to seek out external affirmation/reassurance
сука? - 07/08/2018
that's more 6ish yeah?
3s seek validation too but they don't characteristically ask for help or guidance like a 6 will
emma - Last Monday at 7:59 AM
yeah but i mean,, i do have a strong 6-fix so either way i will probably do that
emma - Last Monday at 8:03 AM
and also now that i think about it it's VERY dependent on the situation and not always like that
like there have been many problems in my life that i've preferred to struggle with on my own
умилингос - Last Monday at 8:05 AM
are these usually problems that you feel like you'd be ashamed of?
emma - Last Monday at 8:06 AM
but when it comes to typology/being unsure of my type, i almost always ask others bc 1) i like having guidance, and 2) i need others to tell me who i am because my manner of finding myself is through other people
and yeah tbh i'd say so
or things that i'm afraid of certain people finding out about me
умилингос - Last Monday at 8:07 AM
honestly :three:
emma - Last Monday at 8:07 AM
so it does mainly tie back to image jfksjdkdhd
умилингос - Last Monday at 8:07 AM
like, not feeling ashamed is above not feeling certain in yourself
and your uncertainty in yourself stems from your uncertain image
so it's image > fear
that's why 3 > 6
emma - Last Monday at 8:11 AM
oh yeah. i'd put "not feeling certain about who i am" above both of those things but that's also 3 haha
умилингос - Last Monday at 8:12 AM
yep
emma - Last Monday at 8:12 AM
like i have a strong reliance on other people to tell me who i am
so when it comes to matters like that, i frequently ask around
which i guess is 6 and 3 working together?
wait CAN a 3 be comfortable asking people for help/guidance though?
Domesday Dong - Last Monday at 8:42 AM
Is this a chat literally for only typing Emma?
Michiel zmivh - Last Monday at 8:43 AM
yes, lol
Domesday Dong - Last Monday at 8:43 AM
Damn, I need my own chat
Michiel zmivh - Last Monday at 8:43 AM
submit a q and you get a channel just like this
Domesday Dong - Last Monday at 8:43 AM
My type is fucking complicated
умилингос - Last Monday at 8:43 AM
thats why you write a questionnaire and we type you :joy:
Domesday Dong - Last Monday at 8:43 AM
Trying to find her emmagram
Huehuehue

Michiel zmivh - Last Monday at 8:44 AM
lmao
emma - Last Monday at 8:45 AM
can someone replyJFKDJFJ
Domesday Dong - Last Monday at 8:45 AM
Judging by avatar, you are INFx
Ok I’ll stop spamming
Ciao
умилингос - Last Monday at 8:46 AM
i have no idea
id say yes from my experience
esp since youre like soc dom
but as i said already
you dont do it when there's risk of being ashamed
3s deny shame so like
you'd rather no one know about it and suffer alone
сука? - Last Monday at 3:05 PM
3s being image focused definitely do feel at times comfortable asking for whatever will make them feel they have reached some sort appealing standard ye
but they're independent and they typically have a desire to prove themselves doing solo work to aim for a high standard but like they're resourceful af
emma - Last Monday at 4:36 PM
ohh yeah yeah
tbh like,,, my biggest fear is experiencing shame/humiliating myself(edited)
but i cope with it in a very avoidant way??
like when i see something that puts me at potential risk for being embarrassed, i run the hell away from it and don't take the risk
and like, i heard that 2s tend to? deal with shame in that manner? so idk LOL what if i'm a 2 hahaha
oh & @Domesday Dong i'm enfp lollll
умилингос - Last Monday at 4:55 PM
youre not a 2 lol
Domesday Dong - Last Monday at 4:55 PM
ENFP, I should have known.
If I had read your messages I would have typed you as that lmao
emma - Last Monday at 4:56 PM
HAHAHAHA @Domesday Dong
are u sure @умилингос
emma - Last Monday at 5:04 PM
probably not but like
can a 3 cope w shame like that
умилингос - Last Monday at 5:18 PM
thats solely how a 3 deals with shame i think ???? ennea experts correct me if im wrong
i mean everyone runs away from shit that will embarrass them
but 3s specifically will deny that they are ashamed
if they are
Michiel zmivh - Last Monday at 5:18 PM
thats more 3 than 2 yeah
kierkegeek - Last Monday at 5:19 PM
well 2s externalise their shame, 3s don't want to deal with it, deny it, even don't feel it sometimes (or can't identify it) and 4s just internalises it(edited)
умилингос - Last Monday at 5:20 PM
yep(edited)
Оddiту - Last Monday at 5:20 PM
pin it
allingy star pinned a message to this channel. See all the pins.Last Monday at 5:21 PM
Острый Друг - Last Monday at 5:22 PM
it won't get pinned anymore once the channel is done typing
allingy star - Last Monday at 5:26 PM
rip
kierkegeek - Last Monday at 5:26 PM
:grin:
Оddiту - Last Monday at 5:26 PM
You're never done typing a 3
FaceyMcfaceface - Last Monday at 5:29 PM
You realise not all threes are unhealthy right my dude?
Besides, Emma's just looking for certainty, there's no reason to be rude to her
Оddiту - Last Monday at 5:31 PM
sure ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
emma - Last Monday at 5:45 PM
haha idm lol i like being reassured @FaceyMcfaceface
Scirrus - Last Monday at 5:53 PM
i haven't really seen anything that contradicts 3w4 6w7 so/sp
the only thing idk about is ur gut fix
emma - Last Monday at 5:56 PM
yeah idk about that either, i could be any of them tbh @Scirrus
okay but like,, the way i keep asking for you guys to reassure me of my type and how i'm constantly unsure of myself and my identity and i second-guess myself so much... isn't that more 6?
Острый Друг - Last Monday at 5:59 PM
you can't just be 6 because you match just one behavior
especially when you already at least have 6 as your fix
Scirrus - Last Monday at 5:59 PM
yeah its just a behavior
Острый Друг - Last Monday at 5:59 PM
you can say you're 6 then but then you can be like. "wait, isn't my sensitivity to how i am perceived by others be more 3 than 6?"
Острый Друг - Last Monday at 6:00 PM
then the back and forth continues
сука? - Last Monday at 6:00 PM
i think she just wants to understand everything better
she doesn't seem particularly confrontational and like you said she was comparing more 3 traits in herself when mentioning 6 in her as well
FaceyMcfaceface - Last Monday at 6:23 PM
If it helps, the uncertainty could also be a three thing. Three is in the competency triad, threes like things to be thorough, they like knowing everything's done properly
сука? - Last Monday at 6:28 PM
^
tru
emma - Last Monday at 7:08 PM
wait @сука? what do u think i am
сука? - Last Monday at 7:11 PM
:three:
im sorry but you're still 3 af to the majority here
FaceyMcfaceface - Last Monday at 7:13 PM
On a side note I'd say gut fix is 1w2, no real evidence aside from a lack of an eight fix's willingness to get aggressive in arguments, just vibes
emma - Last Monday at 7:15 PM
wait what arguments have you seen me in lmao @FaceyMcfaceface
FaceyMcfaceface - Last Monday at 7:16 PM
Like a week and a few days ago when you were getting skeptical about being type three
emma - Last Monday at 7:18 PM
oh and that whole argument went down yeah
but people said i vibed as 8-fixed to them because i got aggressive JFKSJFKDJ
apparently
Острый Друг - Last Monday at 7:18 PM
i personally didn't say 8 just not 9 lel
emma - Last Monday at 7:19 PM
yeah haha just some other people said i seemed 8-fixed after that
i'm probably not 9 though, yeah
tbh idk how i am with pure anger because it's my last fix and it's extremely weak
FaceyMcfaceface - Last Monday at 7:19 PM
Yeah I feel like an eight fix would've kept the argument going longer and been less dignified with it
emma - Last Monday at 7:22 PM
yeah yeah true
my #1 go-to strategy in arguments is to be as passive aggressive as possible
idk does that indicate anything lmao
FaceyMcfaceface - Last Monday at 7:23 PM
Passive aggressive ooooo maybe 1w9
Острый Друг - Last Monday at 7:23 PM
9s are passive aggressive
although their reason is because
if they think they go full agression
they'd push people away
FaceyMcfaceface - Last Monday at 7:23 PM
90% sure Emma doesn't have a 9 fix
Острый Друг - Last Monday at 7:23 PM
same
i think it's a toss up between 8 or 1
i'd maaaybe go with 1
but could be either
emma - Last Monday at 7:24 PM
wait why not @FaceyMcfaceface
FaceyMcfaceface - Last Monday at 7:25 PM
Nines are a lot more passive and they basically never go calling people out directly like you did
If anything pointing out where people fucked up in their etiquette directly is more evidence for 1
emma - Last Monday at 7:26 PM
wait wait wait when did i call ppl out directly though

emma - Last Monday at 8:01 PM
holy shit
i don't think i'm a 3
i'm not
adaptable?
so unless a 3 can be not adaptable then i don't think i'm one
Острый Друг - Last Monday at 8:05 PM
Adaptable in 3 terms is like being the person required for the job
whatever the job is
but yea i mean i guess if you think 6 makes more sense than 3 then i guess so
emma - Last Monday at 8:06 PM
nono i want to discuss this so i know what my type is
because maybe the reason i keep doubting 3 is bc i'm not one
Острый Друг - Last Monday at 8:07 PM
alright i'll throw some descrips at your way
for social 3 and social 6
Social 3
Social Threes seek value by gaining social recognition—by having tangible signs of progress and success. They want to be recognized for their hard work and achievement (Employee of the Month, diplomas, awards) and to have ways of measuring their rise up the ranks. Social Threes are very adaptable, concerned with fitting into whatever culture they find themselves in, be it corporate or national. If they move to another country, they are able to adapt to the norms of that country more easily than most other types. If they join a spiritual community or ashram, they quickly become well adjusted to the social expectations of that community. The Social Threes are the most concerned with being appropriate and with avoiding any behaviors that would cause offense. At the same time, they are highly ambitious and so must balance their drive to excel and to surpass others with their desire to have others like and accept them.

Thus, of the three instinctual variants of this type, Social Threes are at the greatest risk of losing track of their core values and goals. They may adapt so successfully that they find themselves adrift without tangible goals or a clear path for achieving them. In this regard, they can resemble Sevens, moving from one promising project to another as they adapt to different opportunities that present themselves. Social Threes can also get into trouble by attempting to rise faster than they are able or by taking on tasks that they are not yet ready or qualified to perform. The desire to please and to impress can become a powerful magnet that can derail the Social Three from pursuing real, achievable goals.
Social Threes are often extremely status-conscious. Most confuse their inner self with the world's badges, honors and totems. Measure themselves by money, position, awards or results. Strive to match group standards and have the right credentials. How they rank in the eyes of others is most important. May be materialistic but with an eye towards the best brand names so as to be identified with the product's status. The excesses of this subtype make for fine morality plays about the hollowness of fame and status.
ya
emma - Last Monday at 8:08 PM
i have this strong discomfort with like
doing something i don't feel comfortable with/that makes me cringe just because everyone else is doing it
like i feel like if i were a 3 (aND an soc-dom which i know i am) i wouldn't have that big a problem with it??
Острый Друг - Last Monday at 8:11 PM
i'll post the social 6
let me know what ya think
Social 6
Social Sixes look for security in the social sphere—that is, through their affiliations with different people and organizations. They are warm, engaging, and humorous, trying to send out the message that they are approachable and safe. They like to enlist people, getting others involved in projects or activities they see as worthwhile. Social Sixes frequently volunteer to work in groups and committees. They do not necessarily enjoy doing this, but they see it is necessary and so are willing to give their time and energy. They want to be regarded as regular guys or gals and may have difficulty taking stands that would be unpopular in their peer groups. They seek consensus before moving ahead with their agendas and they want to feel that others are "with them," backing them up. Although Social Sixes like being involved, they often become nervous about holding positions of responsibility because they are afraid that they will have to make decisions that others will not like, thus losing their support. When more insecure, their suspiciousness may lead them to form in-groups and out-groups in the workplace or in other social or societal areas.
Social Sixes tend to be dutiful and especially dependent upon authority. More often phobic than counterphobic. Often dedicated to a cause. When acting alone they will still refer to others in their mind for safety and agreement. May want to see your opinion first before they will offer their own. Could change their mind to agree with you. Often align with a group or a cause and will follow the rules loyally, trying to please the boss. "Company men." Focus on a social or work context and try to be ideal within it. Could persecute others in the name of their group's ideals. May imagine they can't live without the group's support: "If I don't play by the rules I'll be out on the street selling pencils." Later there's inevitable disillusionment. Then Six starts grumbling that they are not appreciated. Could go passive/aggressive, resent a boss they had romanticized. Connection to 9 is stronger with this subtype.
emma - Last Monday at 8:11 PM
like i'm not very adaptable unless it's something that i'm comfortable doing
so like
idk man i don't think i'm a 3 :/
Острый Друг - Last Monday at 8:12 PM
ya it's fine
just read the 6 descrip and see if you relate to that(edited)
emma - Last Monday at 8:13 PM
i mean yeah i guess like
i do relate to it but
it doesn't scream "oH MY GOD THAT'S ME" to me
okay i relate to 6 mostly but i'll say what i don't relate to
• how they're said to be responsible/dutiful (i'm absolutely nothing like that)
• how they don't like being the centre of attention (i dig that)
• how they look for equality in relationships (i don't really care about that, i prefer being superior)
• how they just generally don't like to see themselves as better than someone else (that's 99% what i look for in life lol)
• how they strongly fear solitude (i mean,, i don't like being alone in things but i could live with it)
but yeah like all the rest fits me
what do y'all think
StargazerOntan - Last Monday at 8:21 PM
i feel like those things are pretty central in being a 6
Острый Друг - Last Monday at 8:21 PM
The parts specifically you don't relate to in 6 is very 3-like
with like
how they just generally don't like to see themselves as better than someone else (that's 99% what i look for in life lol)
it's not a stretch to say your core might be 3
StargazerOntan - Last Monday at 8:22 PM
that is a v image statement i think
Острый Друг - Last Monday at 8:22 PM
you might handle your anxieties in a very 6 way since it's your fix like looking for external guidance
but overall image seems to fit more accurately for you

умилингос - Last Tuesday at 7:55 AM
everyone can do that for various reasons
but everything else you've said coincides with 3 core
you really need to accept it now lolol
or not, your choice, but i think we've exhausted the explaining and introspective potential here
emma - Last Tuesday at 7:57 AM
yeah yeah ik lol
i just said i do that too JFKSJFKD
emma - Last Tuesday at 8:00 AM
wait what made you guys decide 1w9 over 1w2
because idk if we talked abt that
умилингос - Last Tuesday at 9:08 AM
i just went on what was mentioned yesterday
but as ur last fix
i dont really think it makes that much of a difference what wing it is
Острый Друг - Last Tuesday at 9:54 AM
@emma do we log this as 3w4 6w7 1w9 so/sp?
emma - Last Tuesday at 4:28 PM
sure
wait but
why 1w9 and not 1w2
Острый Друг - Last Tuesday at 4:29 PM
uh idk
guess we didn't discuss it
1w2 could probably be more like you
i'm not entirely too keen on the differences
but i think 1w9 reserves their judgements and criticism of others where 1w2 might more outwardly express them
emma - Last Tuesday at 4:42 PM
i mean i tend to outwardly express it
oh but like
maybe the way i get passive-aggressive in arguments is 1w9 > 1w2
Острый Друг - Last Tuesday at 4:52 PM
yea i think they both outwardly express
1w9 is more like
uh
Focused on themselves
so like when shit goes wrong they're like "i did what i was suppose to do, i'm not at fault"
where 1w2 is more outwardly/group focused(edited)
emma - Last Tuesday at 5:02 PM
oh yeah yeah
1w9 then
also what's disintegration to 9 like
Острый Друг - Last Tuesday at 5:03 PM
the two ways i've seen it described is like
either become super unmotivated couch potato
or
become super vindictive and maybe sabotaging of the success of others
умилингос - Last Tuesday at 5:08 PM
i think its just that
the 3 loses touch with their own self
so they either lose themselves completely and let go and exist in void
or they feel like they need to overcompensate for their lacking sense of self so they aggressively try to assert themselves??
again they get the 9 detachedness from their own self
emma - Last Tuesday at 5:33 PM
could getting super passive-aggressive when stressed be a part of it? bc i'm not usually like that when i'm in a good mood and i've heard it's a trait in 9s
Острый Друг - Last Tuesday at 5:58 PM
ya
emma - Last Tuesday at 6:07 PM
hm yeah then i guess that's how 9 disintegration works for me
also i do relate to that "super unmotivated couch potato" thing
like when i'm stressed i become unmotivated and i don't want to even try achieving my goals (but it's mainly bc i'm afraid i'll fail)
okay but even if idk about 9 disintegration, it FOR SURE makes more sense than 9 integration
also i don't disintegrate into 3 lol
OH WAIT WAIT GUYS

StargazerOntan - Last Tuesday at 6:21 PM
!!
allingy star - Last Tuesday at 6:22 PM
!!
emma - Last Tuesday at 6:22 PM
a biiiig thing i do when i'm stressed is that i lose my self-confidence
StargazerOntan - Last Tuesday at 6:23 PM
could be 9 disint
emma - Last Tuesday at 6:23 PM
like i start to feel like others are better than me and i feel worthless and not good enough
i just saw this post on integration and it made me think of this
StargazerOntan - Last Tuesday at 6:24 PM
like i feel more confident when integrating to 3 so makes sense a 3 would feel less confident when disintegrating to 9
emma - Last Tuesday at 6:24 PM
because i read that when 9s integrate into 3, they stop seeing themselves as unimportant and see their self-worth
YEAH EXACTLY
and for me it's the other way
like usually i see myself as superior to others and i recognize my self-worth(edited)
that's my natural state, i guess
but when i'm stressed i start to doubt that i'm good at things and i feel like i'm not important
like losing competitions tends to send me into that
although i can also get very "i was so much better than them???? why did they beat me??"
but then i also start to not think that i was good
what does that indicate lmao
StargazerOntan - Last Tuesday at 6:28 PM
i relate to this the opposite way hehe
emma - Last Tuesday at 6:30 PM
oh and also 6 integration makes sense bc like
when i'm in a super good mood or when i'm integrating or whatever, i become a lot less competitive and i become comfortable with being friends with people who i consider my rivals
and like
it feels nice to me once i get to that stage
i have a hard time getting there but when i do i just feel like a better version of myself
like i'm not raging with envy and i don't want to sabotage them/hurt them at every chance i get
is that 6 integration
StargazerOntan - Last Tuesday at 6:33 PM
sounds like it to me last i read about 6 int :D
Острый Друг - Last Tuesday at 6:50 PM
6 integration is about being secure about yourself and who you are
Can be feeling super confident but maybe not have the need to constantly brag
Or brag in a more light hearted way
emma - Last Tuesday at 9:36 PM
i don't brag though
like not in an obvious way
so i guess that just doesn't apply to meJFKSJD
oh but could that also be like
not having the need to constantly be better/superior?
is that 6 integration
Evo - Last Wednesday at 3:21 AM
like usually i see myself as superior to others and i recognize my self-worth
i don't brag though
what do you mean though?
умилингос - Last Wednesday at 4:40 AM
i kind of get this, my friend doesn't brag either but he just kind of... whenever he speaks, he asserts himself as superior. It's not a conscious bragging im guessing, and it's not that he doesn't brag but he brags ALL THE TIME in a subtle way
i cant explain it really
сука? - Last Wednesday at 4:44 AM
in america people use "an air of superiority" phrase to describe 1upmanship vibes(edited)
it's usually ingrained in the personality so the person becomes sort of blind to it
умилингос - Last Wednesday at 5:32 AM
yea that
emma - Last Wednesday at 8:02 AM
oh maybe i do that idk
but like
i don't brag in an obvious way because that tends to be detrimental
i enjoy subtle bragging
like my goal is to show off how good i am as much as possible without it looking like i'm trying to show off
i want it to seem effortless
that's why the stereotypical 3 image in my mind doesn't really fit me, as i imagine someone who is constantly bragging in an obvious way and like,,,, no LOL
not me
but i'm extremely focused on showing off in a subtle way and i always wear clothes that make my body look rly good and i find subtle ways to let my people know about my achievements and all
i just want it look effortless
StargazerOntan - Last Wednesday at 8:13 AM
yeah i think a 3 with any self-awareness would avoid blatantly bragging cause it would make them look bad
emma - Last Wednesday at 8:21 AM
yeah exactly!!!
умилингос - Last Wednesday at 8:25 AM
:clap::skin-tone-2:
im so glad youve decided your type lol this was a journey
emma - Last Wednesday at 8:41 AM
haha for sure!
sometimes i still doubt it because i don't see myself fitting all the stereotypes and i don't always like i feel a typical 3 would
but whateVER
умилингос - Last Wednesday at 8:48 AM
no one fits all the stereotypes
because theyre just that, stereotypes
dont use your type to confine yourself
youve found it, accept it, and use it to better yourself. if it doesnt benefit you let it go
emma - Last Wednesday at 4:22 PM
omg yeah
my fear of loss/failure is something i reALLY need to work on
like i can't be genuinely happy for anyone succeeding it's so bad jfksjfkdj
unless they succeed in something completely unlinked to me/that couldn't have been me instead of them
FaceyMcfaceface - Last Wednesday at 4:27 PM
Personality type is best explained as someone throwing a net over a pool of fish, the pool being your type and the fish being type specific traits, no one's gonna catch all the fish and no two people are gonna catch all the same fish
emma - Last Wednesday at 4:55 PM
oh nice way to put it!!!
FaceyMcfaceface - Last Wednesday at 5:01 PM
Thanks ^~^
emma - Last Thursday at 11:02 PM
is not even trying to do something because you're so worried you'll fail a 9 disintegration thing? or just general 3
Острый Друг - Last Thursday at 11:02 PM
i could see it as both
emma - Last Thursday at 11:04 PM
i'm in that exact situation right now and it's the worst
also that's how i typically deal with my fear of failure
like if i know i'm not particularly good at something i tend to just avoid it all together
also i feel this extremely strong need to behave as i'm expected to/follow the reputation i've set up for myself
like even whether i want to or not. it's just my instinct to stick with what people think of me
which i'm guessing is 3? not sure though what do y'all think
Острый Друг - Last Thursday at 11:08 PM
i think that's for sure a very 3 thing to do
emma - Last Thursday at 11:17 PM
which part? the last or first
Острый Друг - Last Thursday at 11:18 PM
all of it
emma - Last Thursday at 11:20 PM
yeah yeah
wait but can a 3 not feel particularly empty/like nothing? i've heard that a big part of 3s is that they feel like nothing so they act like something
and they fear being nothing above anything else
whereas for me it's more like i fear not being successful/the best at something
and i have the biggest fear of losing out of anyone i know and whenever someone beats me at something i literally fall apart
but i guess if being "nothing" means not having any achievements/not being good at anything, i do fear that
is that what it means though
Острый Друг - Last Thursday at 11:33 PM
yea i can see 3s for sure feeling like they don't have any worth outside themselves so they feel empty inside
but i don't think that's a requirement to be 3
perhaps that's probably 3s with lower levels of health
i don't personally feel this way
emma - Last Thursday at 11:36 PM
yeah yeah i agree
maybe it's because i already have achievements that i'm proud of and stuff but i feel quite confident with myself actually
i just don't suffer from a lack of confidence
and i never really have
in fact i have quite an "i can do anything" mindset that sometimes gets me in trouble LOL
but losing at any competition of any sort destroys that confidence for sure
Острый Друг - Last Thursday at 11:42 PM
in fact i have quite an "i can do anything"
RELETABLE
Оddiту - Last Thursday at 11:42 PM
core 3
emma - Last Thursday at 11:42 PM
because my idea of success is almost entirely based on external standards
Острый Друг - Last Thursday at 11:42 PM
i'm very much like that lmao
emma - Last Thursday at 11:42 PM
9 disintegration??
Острый Друг - Last Thursday at 11:42 PM
"Anything you can do i can do just as good"
emma - Last Thursday at 11:42 PM
HFKSJDJDJ
Острый Друг - Last Thursday at 11:42 PM
if not better
emma - Last Thursday at 11:42 PM
or better
Острый Друг - Last Thursday at 11:42 PM
ayy
emma - Last Thursday at 11:43 PM
and if i'm not better than everyone iwillfallapart
i just
ugh
that's really my core fear tbh
i really feel like it is
wow
i'm a 3
Острый Друг - Last Thursday at 11:43 PM
yes you are
i also have a thing where
i feel better
knowing that i'm the "best" person in the room
emma - Last Thursday at 11:44 PM
ME TOO
OH MY GOD
Оddiту - Last Thursday at 11:45 PM
you're getting closer to accepting it :thumbsup:(edited)
emma - Last Thursday at 11:47 PM
knowing i'm the best person in the room is a requirement for me to feel good about myself
and when i'm not i just wanna curl up and hide and die
i was at this place yesterday filled with people who were better than me at the thing i was there for
and i just could not cope
i wanted them to fuck up and that's all i was thinking about for the entire time
see that's why i always purposely surround myself with people i'm better than. it makes me feel actually good about myself. i just like people i'm better than or people at my level. i will not accept anyone higher
Evo - Last Friday at 2:03 AM
can we log this now?
as 361?
Оddiту - Last Friday at 2:04 AM
Yes.
умилингос - Last Friday at 5:32 AM
yikes
3s :blobsweat:
emma - Last Friday at 8:08 AM
sure yeah
3w4 6w7 1w9
bye y'all
it was nice meeting you guys
shyvs - Last Friday at 1:10 PM
do u know ur variants
allingy star - Last Friday at 1:10 PM
so/sp right?
@emma
shyvs - Last Friday at 1:10 PM
dank
Острый Друг - Last Friday at 2:47 PM
Yes so/sp
allingy star - Last Friday at 3:06 PM
ok!
Оddiту - Last Friday at 5:33 PM
:wave:
emma - Last Friday at 5:43 PM
yeah they are so/sp lol
bye!!!