Hakulyte - 01/18/2018
are you busy/around/free/want to talk/etc. ?
or just listening idk
thesunfan - 01/18/2018
i can talk a little bit
won't be super attentive atm tho
sup?
Hakulyte - 01/18/2018
talked to like half of the player list, spent a chunk of time with mechanics which I have pmuch nearly nothing left to be concerned around. There's interest for alliances, some players are high/low in activity . Also did both the Reward & Immunity challenge.
so, pmuch at the point where I start trying to point finger and find someone worth voting
thesunfan - 01/18/2018
can you talk to me about what you pointed out in like
the third post
Hakulyte - 01/18/2018
"Among you there are 4 Saboteurs ready to take the game away"
which means 4 wolves
unless you mean about the reward challenge
and how it works for 1-shot vigi
thesunfan - 01/18/2018
nah, I meant the first thing
Hakulyte - 01/18/2018
"4 Saboteurs" pmuch refers to Survivor Saboteurs
I don't see any reason for "Jeff" to lie here.
thesunfan - 01/18/2018
you're right
Hakulyte - 01/18/2018
and it makes sense for 16 players
thesunfan - 01/18/2018
mod info should be considered always correct
and it does
seem correct for this many players*
Hakulyte - 01/18/2018
only thing that's far above my head has been the hidden immunity idol
I had a few theories, but everything seems wrong so far
meh someone else will probably get that
thesunfan - 01/18/2018
I did very little about that
I dunno if I wanna help you out saying what I did or not yet
but I didn't expect it to turn up anything
Hakulyte - 01/18/2018
I tried editing the pictures in hope to find hidden text
including pics in signups + avatars etc.
even silly stuff
doesn't feel like it's a question with an answer to me
because it says "where is the idol?"
could be related to the seasons
thesunfan - 01/18/2018
how so?
Hakulyte - 01/18/2018
I mean it like "this is something I didn't try to explore"
thesunfan - 01/18/2018
I can probably help if that's the thing
Hakulyte - 01/18/2018
http://survivor.wikia.com/wiki/Hidden_Immunity_Idol
Survivor Wiki
Hidden Immunity Idol
The Hidden Immunity Idol (also known as the "Hidden Idol" or simply as "the idol") is a pocket-sized talisman, and is widely believed to be the most groundbreaking twist ever to be created on...

thesunfan - 01/18/2018
the first jeff pic is from 26
oh dog
I know a whole heck of a lot about survivor
I don't need a page telling me what the idol is
I could come pretty close to naming every contest
contestant*
as well as the boot order of all the seasons
Hakulyte - 01/18/2018
I mean, could it be as simple as "The Hidden Idol is in Exile Island" ?
thesunfan - 01/18/2018
there doesn't seem to be exile island in this game
and I know roundbox has to have cooked up something elaborate here
there's no way its as simple as that hint
Hakulyte - 01/18/2018
op has a dog in the pic + newfoundland. Clearly, that means the answer is "Labrador".
it's a place in newfoundland
thesunfan - 01/18/2018
how does the viking hat factor in?
honestly, you might have something with the season #s btw
the pic of probst on the rock is from 26 iirc
dunno the next one
but the one after that is 28
Hakulyte - 01/18/2018
googled viking + newfoundland
thesunfan - 01/18/2018
so if that's him on the beach of 27, then that seems on purpose
Hakulyte - 01/18/2018
first thing that popped was "potential viking site found in newfoundland"
lol
thesunfan - 01/18/2018
oh
I forgot under the spoilers
its probably nothing then
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFCwsG6LbbY
YouTube
CBS
Survivor: Caramoan - The Open


this vid is pretty cool
Hakulyte - 01/18/2018
same pic as in-game too
thesunfan - 01/18/2018
shows the lengths the host goes for the show
exaclty
Hakulyte - 01/18/2018
I got owned because I'm Canadian
rip
thesunfan - 01/18/2018
huh?
Hakulyte - 01/18/2018
can't view
lol
would need like a VPN
meh
thesunfan - 01/18/2018
oh
rip
the one under the first spoiler is also probably from 26
the scenery looks caramoan-ish
its been a looooooooooong time since I've seen that season though
Hakulyte - 01/18/2018
why do you think the season is meaningful here ?
thesunfan - 01/18/2018
they all appear to be 26 or 28
i dunno if its on purpose or what
damn
the one of him on a beach appears to be from the most recent one, 35
oh well
I guess its nothing then
Hakulyte - 01/18/2018
I salute team sunfan
thesunfan - 01/18/2018
o7
i'm probably going to enjoy driving myself crazy about the idol
that's the part that I was looking forward to the most
Hakulyte - 01/18/2018
the viking site in newfoundland is called L'Anse aux Meadows
in case you're curious
thesunfan - 01/18/2018
I doubt its helpful
but I'll keep that in mind
Hakulyte - 01/18/2018
newfoundland dogs also looks like the puppy in op
thesunfan - 01/18/2018
I know there was a viking coin found in the new world
that predates columbus
that has gotten very little press
I think roundbox said pregame that everything we need might be in the OP
or in the signups
so I think that that is promising
honestly, I hope it doesn't get found right away
that would spoil it imo
Hakulyte - 01/18/2018
seems like there's more to it
w/e
I guess I'm just going to let you do whatever you want for now and focus elsewhere
you didn't feel odd to me or anything
thesunfan - 01/18/2018
im thinking about the paint thingy
i don't think im going to try for the rhythm game
Hakulyte - 01/18/2018
the rhythm game is kinda dumb tbh
paint should be winnable if you're kinda inspired
thesunfan - 01/18/2018
I have an idea
but idk how well survivor memes will go over
Hakulyte - 01/18/2018
I just tried to do what a bunch of other players in our tribe probably did
integrate some ITG Cabinet with the ITG tribe player list in some survivor setting
and just meme around that
Hakulyte - 01/18/2018
oh yeah, is there something relevant about what Vendetta said at the start of the game ?
or just some inside joke ?
thesunfan - 01/18/2018
in season 2, a player was suspected of having smuggled beef jerky into the game
that's what he's referncing
I was going to make a joke about looking at the hem of my clothing, but ended up not doing it
which is alomst certainly where the player smuggled the beef jerky in by
it was a skill that he was taught in the military
Hakulyte - 01/18/2018
nice
thesunfan - 01/18/2018
so he's just referencing a famous survivor moment
the person accused was a spokesperson for a beef jerky company for a little while after
which is neato
Hakulyte - 01/18/2018
I feel like I will end up watching Survivor somewhere after this game
didn't see a single season
or even one episode
thesunfan - 01/18/2018
i remember you flew through path of radiance when I had that as a game theme
Hakulyte - 01/18/2018
yeah, it was a little counter intuitive to power level 5-6 characters instead of everyone
both ways are possible, but having a high level character made this easier
thesunfan - 01/18/2018
the game is easy
and it'll let you do that
ike is ridiculous
you can play through the game's highest difficulty without ever getting anyone else experience
Hakulyte - 01/18/2018
well, there's people who solo the game with ike so, yeah..
mostly dodging and counter attacking like twice
last boss was tricky tho
most of my army couldn't even hurt it
thesunfan - 01/18/2018
yeah
ike and whatever dragon you got are the only people that should be able to damage him
and elincia maybe?
i forget
but lmao elincia
Hakulyte - 01/18/2018
yeah
first playthrough on hard, lose nearly everyone except ike, but at the end
facepalm
I feel like the other fire emblems force you to do other things
thesunfan - 01/18/2018
for the most part yeah
Hakulyte - 01/18/2018
have you talked to flashflash ?
I tried talking to him in both discord and even skype and nothing.
thesunfan - 01/18/2018
nope
January 19, 2018
thesunfan - 01/19/2018
you never talked to soundwave?
are you certain?
Hakulyte - 01/19/2018
I talked to soundwave
but not about alliances
Hakulyte - Yesterday at 7:11 PM
hello there
Soundwave - Yesterday at 7:12 PM
hi friend
Hakulyte - Yesterday at 7:12 PM
can you explain to me how you view this game ?
Soundwave - Yesterday at 7:12 PM
In what sense? reads? thoughts about format?
Hakulyte - Yesterday at 7:13 PM
the tribes and how town vs wolves are playing
pmuch the logic of hiding information vs sharing it knowing there could be a wolf
Soundwave - Yesterday at 7:18 PM
Okay, well, tribes are ffa, reuben_tate, me, star_crossed, tokzic, charu, wv, and someone else, probably ck or someone else who hasn't joined, so knowing that no point in hiding tribes.

Tribes might end up being important because a couple people have already said they're going to weasel around try to get wolves to trip up. Town or wolf, you have to play along with that, and you can't read them poor for that. Tribes shouldn't matter, but this is a game of social construction, so what should and shouldn't matter is relative to what's going on.

Information is only worth hiding if you're pretty sure it's being hidden from all the wolves. This makes pms pretty useful: if you pick a random person and tell them some things you're probably confiding with a town. If you choose based on reads your chances only go up. Tribes however, are opposite. Each tribe probably has a wolf, so if you keep something secret from the other tribe, you're probably only hiding it from towns, because, ofc, the wolves can communicate freely.
Hakulyte - Yesterday at 7:19 PM
CK is actually in my tribe
Soundwave - Yesterday at 7:19 PM
oh interesting
Hakulyte - Yesterday at 7:19 PM
idk why you guys keep thinking it's her that's missing
Soundwave - Yesterday at 7:19 PM
I dunno assumed she hadn't gotten on. Who do you have?
Hakulyte - Yesterday at 7:20 PM
you were in my tribe too at one point
Soundwave - Yesterday at 7:20 PM
Yeah rb fucked up, I was rolled ddr but given link to itg
Hakulyte - Yesterday at 7:21 PM
me, celirra, sunfan, ck, DBP, jrodd, Shado at this point
Soundwave - Yesterday at 7:21 PM
who's missing then?
Hakulyte - Yesterday at 7:22 PM
neeee and ben (?)
wait- you have reuben_tate
so, it's just neee
Soundwave - Yesterday at 7:23 PM
wait but you listed 7 and I listed 7... there should be 2 missing...?
Hakulyte - Yesterday at 7:24 PM
oh it's Vendetta
Soundwave - Yesterday at 7:24 PM
aah
couldn't check, fiffer not loading on maku internet xd
Hakulyte - Yesterday at 7:25 PM
btw this game has no PR so, hiding information is a lot more meaningless
like things like rewards/immunity are unstoppable and will be announced
Soundwave - Yesterday at 7:25 PM
yeh, some info purists disagree though
Hakulyte - Yesterday at 7:26 PM
the vigi is forced to shoot someone, the immune will just not die etc.
actually being immune is weird in this game
Soundwave - Yesterday at 7:26 PM
I guess the theory is less info shared less info with wolves to bs with but I don't really feel like that's how it works in practice
Hakulyte - Yesterday at 7:26 PM
it's going to be publicly announced before N1
smh
there's only like 2 things that matter atm
Soundwave - Yesterday at 7:27 PM
orly... then immunity is kinda useless no?
Hakulyte - Yesterday at 7:27 PM
information and votes
yeah
Soundwave - Yesterday at 7:27 PM
wolves aren't going to kill an immune xd
Hakulyte - Yesterday at 7:27 PM
pmuch
well, idk if there's immune challenge all the game
Soundwave - Yesterday at 7:28 PM
you pming everybody?
Hakulyte - Yesterday at 7:28 PM
like half of the player list
Soundwave - Yesterday at 7:28 PM
just random or our tribe or what?
Hakulyte - Yesterday at 7:28 PM
random
pretty 50/50 so far
Soundwave - Yesterday at 7:29 PM
sou sou
Hakulyte - Yesterday at 7:29 PM
sunfan doesn't seem to want to talk in our tribe chat
kinda odd
Soundwave - Yesterday at 7:29 PM
pm only or just silent?
Hakulyte - Yesterday at 7:29 PM
probably pm with specific players
Soundwave - Yesterday at 7:29 PM
mmm
could be a smart play
just worried he's going to get done in by a lynchmob if he keeps that up
January 19, 2018
Hakulyte - Today at 2:49 PM
are you here ?
---
I'm waiting for him too
seems like I've been wrong about challenges getting announced
not sure how that's going to go

Hakulyte - Last Saturday at 4:30 PM
---
hi there, are you interested into join group chat or busy ?
thesunfan - Last Saturday at 5:33 PM
huh
Hakulyte - Last Saturday at 5:34 PM
well, this is awkward, discord chat has a 10 people limitation and there's 10 already
2 of them being the hosts
there's space now
apparently when you join a group chat, you also have access to everything that was said before you joined
I actually made the group chat so, I'm the one adding people
thesunfan - Last Saturday at 5:43 PM
sure
sounds good
January 21, 2018
Hakulyte - Last Sunday at 2:40 PM
question: did you have ulterior motives to seer charu ?
like in the puzzle of solving this game, was he some sort of piece that helped make things clear
I have the ffa vote shifting in mind in the thread
but maybe there's more 1 on 1
thesunfan - Last Sunday at 4:59 PM
I did not have ulterior motives
I didn't talk to him about the riddle at all
I talked to no one but DBP about the riddle
I think I said something in beach chat like "I think I've got it" when I thought of crowdpleaser
Hakulyte - Last Sunday at 5:01 PM
huh you solved this with DBP ?
thesunfan - Last Sunday at 5:01 PM
it was very little teamwork
it was mostly just me
he really only pointed out that because of the wording, the solution almost certainly was related to FFR
Hakulyte - Last Sunday at 5:02 PM
I wouldn't have tendency to team up for a one shot seer
I guess you trust him
thesunfan - Last Sunday at 5:02 PM
well I do
but mostly, I just wanted to have fun
he had said in voice chat that solving riddles like that was something he was looking forward to
which was the same for my case as well
its what I was most excited for in the game
Hakulyte - Last Sunday at 5:03 PM
I mean that's cool, it's just that fmpov it's like it's explaining why you claimed publicly
well, at least you're honest about it.
thesunfan - Last Sunday at 5:04 PM
I always was going to claim publicly
because I am town etc etc
Hakulyte - Last Sunday at 7:35 PM
lol, I played IDOL (Danpa with posing Guys ver), but that wasn't the immunity idol either.
thesunfan - Last Sunday at 7:36 PM
oh
Hakulyte - Last Sunday at 7:36 PM
I thought that was the overly simple thing everyone overlooked
nope
thesunfan - Last Sunday at 7:36 PM
that's a good guess
thesunfan - Last Sunday at 10:44 PM
why did you tell me IDOL was not where the idol was?
Hakulyte - Last Sunday at 10:45 PM
bored
I cycle between trying to get the game together and the mini games
when I get too frustrated by one
are you good at tetris ?
thesunfan - Last Sunday at 10:46 PM
never really played it
I don't think I have a shot but I might try if I get bored
Hakulyte - Last Sunday at 10:46 PM
you can take advantage of pause
thesunfan - Last Sunday at 10:46 PM
ahhhhh
why are you telling me this
you must trust me
but I didn't know that you did
Hakulyte - Last Sunday at 10:47 PM
I keep changing my mind tbh
the more I talk 1 on 1
but I think it would be good if you could win immunity here
assuming a wolf get lynched
it's just that the world where you're town and charu is town and you get lynch and charu rip
is like worst case scenario
and I'd rather have one of you two alive
than someone with low activity
I'd rather deal with you than the 2 replacements + soundwave/neeee is kinda
I've talked to T-Force and his slot is pmuch pure reset to me
Freezin has lot interest into reading everything
low*
im just argh
thesunfan - Last Sunday at 10:52 PM
ok
that
actually makes sense
Hakulyte - Last Sunday at 10:52 PM
I personally would like a low activity player lynch here
thesunfan - Last Sunday at 10:52 PM
its a good idea to do that, I think
Hakulyte - Last Sunday at 10:52 PM
just haven't decided who and why
thesunfan - Last Sunday at 10:52 PM
I've had a philosophy recently
"When in doubt, lynch lurkers"
Hakulyte - Last Sunday at 10:52 PM
I'm usually afraid of lurkers in standard games
because we tend to snipe PRs
but there's no such thing here
if game doesn't make sense after nagivating logs all day, that's probably why
navigating*
like if there's 0 wolf in that part of the game, holy shit
also dying internally from seeing you repeat yourself
with the charu seer thing
im supposed to go sleep early because I have an appointment tomorrow morning
and soundwave is like "im doing my homework, ill be back later"
idk how long you're free
but him and neeee has little to nothing with me
well, post the point where I gave you my log with soundwave
if charu is town
that kinds of lean me toward soundwave
with the alliance stuff
and tokzic flipped town
well, if it's not that, im getting trolled by cel

thesunfan - Last Sunday at 10:59 PM
I don't think im getting fooled by cel
thesunfan - Last Sunday at 11:00 PM
im working on my reads list atm; I think he had a good idea that he would likely only give as town
or is a lot more likely to give as town than as wolf
Hakulyte - Last Sunday at 11:01 PM
also im not doing the tetris challenge because im curious who else is going for it
about celirra
how much did he tell you about organizing things
like did he talk to you about making an alliance etc. ?
'cause like almost immediately after I joined the game he was already telling me how he wanted to organize things etc.
thesunfan - Last Sunday at 11:38 PM
uhh, I'd have to look
I think he said something similar
but nothing about alliances
Hakulyte - Last Sunday at 11:38 PM
at first I was like "cool", but now im like, I don't really see anything going on
thesunfan - Last Sunday at 11:39 PM
Celirra - Last Thursday at 4:07 PM
I'll try to keep it quick then
idk if you're wolf or town obviously
but I think to an extent cooperation in early game this game is more important than town reading given the volatility of town reads early on
and I think a strong early foundation is really important this game
and I think you're someone I can cooperate with well
I hope we can work together somewhat
while not dire on d0 like now, I think come d1 having a solid voting block is important for figuring out wolves
especially given the lack of vote reveals and such
In the worst case scenario if my understanding is correct, we will be down to 13 people total next day phase, and up to 4 wolves (post #3 identifies the wolfcount, pinpointed by haku, part of why I think haku is towny is because he's really devoting a lot to figuring shit out)
I have a bit of stuff further but I can devulge that later or tomorrow, it's more in depth
was what he told me at the beginning
Hakulyte - Last Sunday at 11:41 PM
kinda different from what I have
but still looking alright
thesunfan - Last Sunday at 11:42 PM
should look good that its different
Hakulyte - Last Sunday at 11:43 PM
Celirra - Last Thursday at 1:27 PM
Want to work with for allaince:
- Haku (you)
- CK
- Reuben
- Sunfan

Don't mind / consider:
- Tokzic
- Star-crossed
- WV
- Charu
- DBP
- V
- Shado

Unwise to ally with:

rest
I think the dont mind/consider is moreorless in order
jrodd would be kinda in between, but the rest (neee, soundwave, flashflash) I dont think we should ally with
Reuben is solely for the notion of him seeming a bit... open so worst case we could read him easily-er somewhat
Tokzic would be good if he does put the effort in
Star-crossed seems level headed and averse to the big moves which eases me for allaince
I had stuff like that
January 22, 2018
Hakulyte - Last Monday at 12:43 PM
have you talked to T-Force 1 on 1 ?
thesunfan - Last Monday at 12:44 PM
not about the game
well ok I said like "welcome" at the very beginning
but mostly about football and my recent move
Hakulyte - Last Monday at 12:45 PM
are you interested to read my log with him ?

thesunfan - Last Monday at 12:45 PM
I mean
what would I be looking for?
or would I just be asked to formulate my own opinion
Hakulyte - Last Monday at 12:45 PM
pmuch just own opinion
I don't have a lot of games with T-Force
just looking for second opinion
https://pastebin.com/UQN4E68Y
Pastebin
Hakulyte - Yesterday at 4:32 PM I just want to ask if you started interacting - Pastebin.com

thesunfan - Last Monday at 12:46 PM
might be a bit
Hakulyte - Last Monday at 12:48 PM
I tried to see if he had a stance on you
point is that I don't feel like im getting anything out of him
regardless of what I say here
thesunfan - Last Monday at 12:53 PM
I mean
he hasn't really read anything by his own admission
so I wouldn't expect anything
I don't really know what to do with that
I sure would've appreciated him trying at least some thus far
Hakulyte - Last Monday at 12:54 PM
I was hoping for interaction attempt a bit more
idk if he's just like "im going to read everything and then interact"
thesunfan - Last Monday at 12:54 PM
he's not going to read everything
Hakulyte - Last Monday at 12:55 PM
I just wonder what he's going to do
thesunfan - Last Monday at 12:55 PM
hopefully something
thesunfan - Last Monday at 2:25 PM
in the call
were you there
when shado brought up ben or something
and I said "yeah, wv has been going pretty unnoticed too"
did it happen like that?
Hakulyte - Last Monday at 2:48 PM
I don't have good memory for that kind of thing, I'm more visual than auditive for that
January 25, 2018
thesunfan - Yesterday at 8:17 PM
thesunfan - Today at 8:03 PM
we know 4 wolves
imo, there's probably 3 outside of my poe
but idc what I think
who do you think has a chance of being a wolf outside of t-force, wv, soundwave
people that a lot of people want dead
because that's not all of the game right there
Hakulyte - Yesterday at 8:21 PM
freezin/neee
my read list pmuch
star seems to think jrodd > freezin
January 26, 2018
Hakulyte - Today at 1:50 PM
I switched to T-Force after wv said we were w/w in logs
thesunfan - Today at 1:50 PM
that's really dumb
but you're a wolf so w/e
Hakulyte - Today at 1:51 PM
communication is shit btw
thesunfan - Today at 1:51 PM
you didn't tell anyone
that you switched
during that whole thing
you were just chilling
Hakulyte - Today at 1:52 PM
I went to sleep
thesunfan - Today at 1:52 PM
didn't post about the change before you slept?
Hakulyte - Today at 1:52 PM
I can go post it
not like you're going to insta now
thesunfan - Today at 1:52 PM
go post what
that you changed?
Hakulyte - Today at 1:52 PM
yeah
thesunfan - Today at 1:52 PM
too late
I'm talking about when the vote was happening
Hakulyte - Today at 1:53 PM
?
thesunfan - Today at 1:53 PM
before trevor was lynched
why didn't you tell anyone
you switched before then
Hakulyte - Today at 1:53 PM
Hakulyte - Yesterday at 9:55 PM
im staying on neeee, but I want to meme freezin for a while
that's in cel's log
thesunfan - Today at 1:54 PM
then you moved
without telling anyone
Hakulyte - Today at 1:54 PM
yeah
thesunfan - Today at 1:54 PM
pretty wolfy bro
I have nothing more to say