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  1. Baidol Veris
  2. 10:31 Yo
  3. Faud
  4. 10:32 howdy, one of your members has an alt corp "Pangraphics Starship Design" which has a "neutral" in it
  5. 10:32 someone who no longer has any goon pilots
  6. 10:32 the Mrchi duder who owns it is Bezekira Windfury
  7. Baidol Veris
  8. 10:33 Ah
  9. 10:33 Eliza
  10. 10:33 They were kicked for ESI, but will be rejoining corp and fix their shit this time once their wardec cooldown is up
  11. Faud
  12. 10:33 and he has only the CEO character whereas Eliza has 12 pilots in there
  13. 10:34 yeah looking at eliza they've still got at least one pilot they haven't ESI'd
  14. 10:34 Christianna Jones of Caldari Provisions
  15. Baidol Veris
  16. 10:35 One moment
  17. 10:37 To be clear, the problem is that there is a non-ESI compliant character in Pangraphics. This character belongs to Eliza Jones. If the ESI is rectified, the problem is solved?
  18. Faud
  19. 10:38 no, the problem is that there is a person in a goon alt corp (pangraphics) who is "not a goon"
  20. 10:38 you're required to have a pilot in "a main corp" to be in an alt corp
  21. Baidol Veris
  22. 10:38 Got it
  23. 10:39 If Eliza rejoins in a week (wardec cooldown) is that sufficient, or do we need to take action now?
  24. Faud
  25. 10:40 well he's actually applied to KF
  26. Baidol Veris
  27. 10:40 Ahahahaha
  28. 10:40 When did that happen?
  29. Faud
  30. 10:40 which is how I became aware of the situation
  31. 10:40 today
  32. 10:40 and he's CLAIMING thats *his* altcorp
  33. Baidol Veris
  34. 10:44 Mmmmmmm
  35. 10:45 I believe, in practice, it is
  36. 10:45 Bez was the one who recruited Eliza
  37. 10:45 I wouldn't be surprised if Bez made the alt corp for Eliza because Eliza's newness prevented them from making an alt corp themselves
  38. 10:52 Faud came back
  39. Faud
  40. 10:53
  41. https://gyazo.com/ec0ad31508468c1d932a21a90f793ce6
  42. 10:53 supposedly MRCHI is also their altcorp?
  43. 10:54 well, no, they're applying on one of the pilots from pangraphics
  44. 10:54 no mention of having been kicked for ESI non compliance
  45. 10:54 no mention of having been in MRCHI or one of your dudes doing them a favour for the altcorp
  46. 10:56
  47. https://gyazo.com/d2409ea1002d09194f80dfe6c0112a7b
  48. 10:56 like... wut? seriously??
  49. Baidol Veris
  50. 10:56 I am having trouble parsing that.
  51. Faud
  52. 10:56 the 2nd one?
  53. Baidol Veris
  54. 10:56 c
  55. Faud
  56. 10:57 my read is: "I put an alt into a goon corp, so that I could have a mini corp in goons to do as I want with"
  57. Baidol Veris
  58. 10:59 Eliza was the main and was the character they kept in MRCHI in order to go on ops, so that's true. There was some difficulty in getting them to meet our stringent requirements (2 paps/month until probationary period is over lolol), but they shaped up after a warning.
  59. Faud
  60. 10:59 two whole paps? you monsters
  61. Baidol Veris
  62. 11:00 They never integrated well (our metric is "talk on jabber often"), so I wouldn't be surprised if they did not know you can't have characters is more than one non-alt corp.
  63. 11:00 Or they could simply be trying to jump ship because they're too impatient to wait out the cooldown.
  64. Faud
  65. 11:00
  66. https://gyazo.com/9cba47bc2cc28cb5ade40939ebe8461f
  67. 11:01 I'd suspect the latter
  68. 11:01 but honestly, seeing as their being dishonest in their application to us, and they're clearly just interested in getting their "alt corp" to stay blue....
  69. 11:01 I don't see KF accepting
  70. Baidol Veris
  71. 11:02 And I suspect we'll deny them reentry, but might have some fun via PM's with them first.
  72. 11:02 The biggest pain will be dealing with the alt corp.
  73. 11:02 But that's on us.
  74. Faud
  75. 11:02 really not difficult...
  76. 11:02 get the ceo dude to kick him
  77. 11:02 or, pull out his pilot
  78. Baidol Veris
  79. 11:02 CEO dude is not very active these days, but they have been active on jabber in the last week so maybe we'll get lucky.
  80. Faud
  81. 11:02 honestly, I think it'd be 100x funnier if the ceo pilot kicked all eliza's pilots
  82. 11:03 because then he loses all his corp assets too for being a dodgy fuck
  83. 11:03 but, if you're NOT trying to be rampant assholes, just pull the ceo pilot out and it'll get kicked
  84. 11:03 I can just get the altcorp removed from the alliance now if necessary
  85. Baidol Veris
  86. 11:04 I don't know if Bez themselves have any assets in there, so I would refrain.
  87. Faud
  88. 11:04 i just don't want to fuck an active MRCHI dude
  89. Baidol Veris
  90. 11:06 If the timeframe is possible, i suggest give it a week for Bez to come back on jabber and get in contact with a director. If that doesn't happen, we can pull the plug.
  91. Faud
  92. 11:06 speaking as a counter intel director, thats a long long time for a "non goon" to have access to all goon things
  93. 11:07 ultimately it can only move as fast as bez tho
  94. Baidol Veris
  95. 11:07 If the corp get's kicked, Bez still retains CEO access and all corp assets, correct?
  96. 11:07 gets*
  97. Faud
  98. 11:08 oh correct, it just "isn't in goonswarm"
  99. Baidol Veris
  100. 11:08 My concern is if the alt corp has citadels. Is there a way to check that?
  101. Faud
  102. 11:08 yes, actually I think I do have a way
  103. 11:08 gimme a sec :)
  104. 11:10 my immediate search isn't finding any, I can check with gsol to use their tools to double check
  105. Baidol Veris
  106. 11:11 Ehhhhh that's probably enough. I ask you give us a few days. I don't want to make unilateral decisions without letting the rest of our directorate have input.
  107. Faud
  108. 11:11 yeah couple of days is fine
  109. Baidol Veris
  110. 11:11 Thank you!
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