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- Baidol Veris
- 10:31 Yo
- Faud
- 10:32 howdy, one of your members has an alt corp "Pangraphics Starship Design" which has a "neutral" in it
- 10:32 someone who no longer has any goon pilots
- 10:32 the Mrchi duder who owns it is Bezekira Windfury
- Baidol Veris
- 10:33 Ah
- 10:33 Eliza
- 10:33 They were kicked for ESI, but will be rejoining corp and fix their shit this time once their wardec cooldown is up
- Faud
- 10:33 and he has only the CEO character whereas Eliza has 12 pilots in there
- 10:34 yeah looking at eliza they've still got at least one pilot they haven't ESI'd
- 10:34 Christianna Jones of Caldari Provisions
- Baidol Veris
- 10:35 One moment
- 10:37 To be clear, the problem is that there is a non-ESI compliant character in Pangraphics. This character belongs to Eliza Jones. If the ESI is rectified, the problem is solved?
- Faud
- 10:38 no, the problem is that there is a person in a goon alt corp (pangraphics) who is "not a goon"
- 10:38 you're required to have a pilot in "a main corp" to be in an alt corp
- Baidol Veris
- 10:38 Got it
- 10:39 If Eliza rejoins in a week (wardec cooldown) is that sufficient, or do we need to take action now?
- Faud
- 10:40 well he's actually applied to KF
- Baidol Veris
- 10:40 Ahahahaha
- 10:40 When did that happen?
- Faud
- 10:40 which is how I became aware of the situation
- 10:40 today
- 10:40 and he's CLAIMING thats *his* altcorp
- Baidol Veris
- 10:44 Mmmmmmm
- 10:45 I believe, in practice, it is
- 10:45 Bez was the one who recruited Eliza
- 10:45 I wouldn't be surprised if Bez made the alt corp for Eliza because Eliza's newness prevented them from making an alt corp themselves
- 10:52 Faud came back
- Faud
- 10:53
- https://gyazo.com/ec0ad31508468c1d932a21a90f793ce6
- 10:53 supposedly MRCHI is also their altcorp?
- 10:54 well, no, they're applying on one of the pilots from pangraphics
- 10:54 no mention of having been kicked for ESI non compliance
- 10:54 no mention of having been in MRCHI or one of your dudes doing them a favour for the altcorp
- 10:56
- https://gyazo.com/d2409ea1002d09194f80dfe6c0112a7b
- 10:56 like... wut? seriously??
- Baidol Veris
- 10:56 I am having trouble parsing that.
- Faud
- 10:56 the 2nd one?
- Baidol Veris
- 10:56 c
- Faud
- 10:57 my read is: "I put an alt into a goon corp, so that I could have a mini corp in goons to do as I want with"
- Baidol Veris
- 10:59 Eliza was the main and was the character they kept in MRCHI in order to go on ops, so that's true. There was some difficulty in getting them to meet our stringent requirements (2 paps/month until probationary period is over lolol), but they shaped up after a warning.
- Faud
- 10:59 two whole paps? you monsters
- Baidol Veris
- 11:00 They never integrated well (our metric is "talk on jabber often"), so I wouldn't be surprised if they did not know you can't have characters is more than one non-alt corp.
- 11:00 Or they could simply be trying to jump ship because they're too impatient to wait out the cooldown.
- Faud
- 11:00
- https://gyazo.com/9cba47bc2cc28cb5ade40939ebe8461f
- 11:01 I'd suspect the latter
- 11:01 but honestly, seeing as their being dishonest in their application to us, and they're clearly just interested in getting their "alt corp" to stay blue....
- 11:01 I don't see KF accepting
- Baidol Veris
- 11:02 And I suspect we'll deny them reentry, but might have some fun via PM's with them first.
- 11:02 The biggest pain will be dealing with the alt corp.
- 11:02 But that's on us.
- Faud
- 11:02 really not difficult...
- 11:02 get the ceo dude to kick him
- 11:02 or, pull out his pilot
- Baidol Veris
- 11:02 CEO dude is not very active these days, but they have been active on jabber in the last week so maybe we'll get lucky.
- Faud
- 11:02 honestly, I think it'd be 100x funnier if the ceo pilot kicked all eliza's pilots
- 11:03 because then he loses all his corp assets too for being a dodgy fuck
- 11:03 but, if you're NOT trying to be rampant assholes, just pull the ceo pilot out and it'll get kicked
- 11:03 I can just get the altcorp removed from the alliance now if necessary
- Baidol Veris
- 11:04 I don't know if Bez themselves have any assets in there, so I would refrain.
- Faud
- 11:04 i just don't want to fuck an active MRCHI dude
- Baidol Veris
- 11:06 If the timeframe is possible, i suggest give it a week for Bez to come back on jabber and get in contact with a director. If that doesn't happen, we can pull the plug.
- Faud
- 11:06 speaking as a counter intel director, thats a long long time for a "non goon" to have access to all goon things
- 11:07 ultimately it can only move as fast as bez tho
- Baidol Veris
- 11:07 If the corp get's kicked, Bez still retains CEO access and all corp assets, correct?
- 11:07 gets*
- Faud
- 11:08 oh correct, it just "isn't in goonswarm"
- Baidol Veris
- 11:08 My concern is if the alt corp has citadels. Is there a way to check that?
- Faud
- 11:08 yes, actually I think I do have a way
- 11:08 gimme a sec :)
- 11:10 my immediate search isn't finding any, I can check with gsol to use their tools to double check
- Baidol Veris
- 11:11 Ehhhhh that's probably enough. I ask you give us a few days. I don't want to make unilateral decisions without letting the rest of our directorate have input.
- Faud
- 11:11 yeah couple of days is fine
- Baidol Veris
- 11:11 Thank you!
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