Also, the skeptics are now doing the thing where they say they accept the science now (bull) but don't think it means anything. Which is how you know they don't accept the science and just want the debate to go away, the implications are discussed. But anyone who thinks this information actually matters is just labeled and ideologue, by people still trying to defend their cherished worldview.

Teal Deer, when he went his own way, had the same beef with them. They'd claim to accept what he says but change nothing about their worldview nor listen to why it should change. He lambasted their "hyperindividualism"

And they really have never gone beyond this issue. They usually just invent a new convoluted to argue for the same individualistic frame. Be it Buddha saying identity is negatable for groups. It's a new justification for values nationalism, paper nationalism, or deracinated individualism