[16:27] <loach> yo im to understand you made threats to miri?
[16:27] <JonniTheJuicyJ> threats?
[16:28] <loach> he said he came to talk to you about this embedding thing
[16:28] <JonniTheJuicyJ> "talk"
[16:28] <JonniTheJuicyJ> he's a hothead. and wouldn't understand the simple question I was asking for a week now
[16:28] <loach> well i take his word that he came calmly
[16:29] <JonniTheJuicyJ> let me state it once more for simplicity
[16:29] <JonniTheJuicyJ> It is up to you guys if we post about content you create or not. I even offered full partnership and admin accounts for spinfusor.org but go no reply
[16:30] <JonniTheJuicyJ> now finally after massive public fights and whatnot. I have gotten my awnser
[16:30] <JonniTheJuicyJ> clearly you guys don't want your content featured on our news website. that's fine
[16:30] <JonniTheJuicyJ> all that shouting and moaning and trying to make us look bad was not needed
[16:30] <JonniTheJuicyJ> 1 pm to me would have been enough
[16:30] <JonniTheJuicyJ> but I got none untill this afternoon
[16:31] <loach> i think it would have been polite to come to us before you started embedding this stuff
[16:31] <JonniTheJuicyJ> [16:29] <JonniTheJuicyJ> It is up to you guys if we post about content you create or not. I even offered full partnership and admin accounts for spinfusor.org but go no reply
[16:31] <JonniTheJuicyJ> I came to you the first day it was up to ask
[16:31] <JonniTheJuicyJ> and I got no replies about anything from anyone
[16:31] <loach> link to log
[16:32] <JonniTheJuicyJ> seriously. what is this about?
[16:32] <JonniTheJuicyJ> we're done. i'm fine with your awnser
[16:32] <JonniTheJuicyJ> just could have told me sooner
[16:33] <loach> spin it how you want, dont like this underhand approach to things
[16:33] <JonniTheJuicyJ> underhand?
[16:33] <JonniTheJuicyJ> we are running a news website about tribes ascend
[16:33] <JonniTheJuicyJ> that's what news websites do
[16:33] <JonniTheJuicyJ> post articles about things
[16:34] <JonniTheJuicyJ> anyways. no more .hs content on sf.org as requested. done right?
[16:35] <JonniTheJuicyJ> for the record. even the original post of your embed had 3 mentions of "hindsight (tv)" on the page/stream
[16:35] <JonniTheJuicyJ> so how could it have been me stealing your clearly branded stuff?
[16:35] <JonniTheJuicyJ> that is all. i'm open to any suggestions on future dealings. no hurt feelings
[16:36] <loach> we dont care if you post shit, we just dont like that you embedded it without asking
[16:37] <JonniTheJuicyJ> you can choose through owned if its embeddable or not and where.
[16:38] <JonniTheJuicyJ> I'm not going to "cause things again" so I won't post anything made by hindsight. but just to be clear. you used other content without asking way before that
[16:39] <loach> liiiiiiike?
[16:39] <JonniTheJuicyJ> and it was barely credited, at least not as much as I credited you guys on my embed
[16:39] <JonniTheJuicyJ> the hindsight video where you stole all footage from levelup tv without asking
[16:39] <JonniTheJuicyJ> non su boss
[16:39] <loach> alright well we'll make it real simple
[16:39] <loach> we have nothing to do with you in future
[16:39] <loach> 100%
[16:39] <JonniTheJuicyJ> nvc is levelup and he already said he doesn't mind
[16:39] <loach> you dont cast our games
[16:39] <JonniTheJuicyJ> we will actually
[16:39] <loach> we'll leave if you show up
[16:40] <JonniTheJuicyJ> hehe. you guys are really making a drama out of this
[16:40] <JonniTheJuicyJ> even though I just agreed to what you wanted all along
[16:40] <JonniTheJuicyJ> but we will cast whatever match we want to
[16:40] <loach> cannot make us play
[16:40] <JonniTheJuicyJ> then don't :)
[16:40] <JonniTheJuicyJ> its all up to you
[16:41] <loach> but you've chosen to ignore our actual complaint
[16:41] <loach> since the start
[16:41] <JonniTheJuicyJ> which was that and when?
[16:41] <loach> [15:36] <loach> we dont care if you post shit, we just dont like that you embedded it without asking
[16:42] <JonniTheJuicyJ> I was only told about any of this. this afternoon
[16:42] <JonniTheJuicyJ> I got 0 pm's from any of you
[16:42] <JonniTheJuicyJ> and I am spinfusor.org
[16:43] <JonniTheJuicyJ> it was obviously one big misunderstanding and I don't see why we'd make a big deal out of any of this
[16:44] <JonniTheJuicyJ> if I had been told. I would have changed it. I was just doing as any news website would do. and embedded it with credits to you
[16:45] <JonniTheJuicyJ> obviously I liked you guys before. it would be great to work together more. but I have just been baffled all day about what kind of drama arose from this little thing
[16:45] <loach> ok i think we would prefer it had been linked
[16:46] <JonniTheJuicyJ> well I don't see the problem with embedding. did you even see it? had hindsight TV plastered all over it
[16:46] <JonniTheJuicyJ> but if that's your stand. that's fine by me
[16:47] <loach> the dominant feeling of those involved
[16:47] <loach> is they prefer linking to embedding
[16:47] <JonniTheJuicyJ> I even offered admin accounts on our website so you could post about it yourself
[16:47] <JonniTheJuicyJ> create your own buzz by using us
[16:47] <JonniTheJuicyJ> we are a new website. you're something else. so why push eachother away when we can help eachother?
[16:47] <JonniTheJuicyJ> news website*
[16:47] <JonniTheJuicyJ> excuse me
[16:48] <loach> i dont have a problem with helping each other out
[16:49] <loach> i have a problem with someone helping themselves to whatever
[16:50] <JonniTheJuicyJ> if you don't want your content directly featured on our website we won't do that.
[16:51] <loach> link not embed
[16:51] <loach> all we want
[16:51] <JonniTheJuicyJ> but I don't want to generate hits for you if the only thing i get for it is bland text
[16:51] <JonniTheJuicyJ> so that's it then
[16:53] <loach> so actually you're demanding embed?
[16:53] <JonniTheJuicyJ> not demanding anything
[16:53] <JonniTheJuicyJ> just saying. this is how news websites work
[16:53] <JonniTheJuicyJ> and if you don't want it then we won't
[16:54] <JonniTheJuicyJ> go to other gaming news websites. it always the same thing
[16:54] <JonniTheJuicyJ> but we offer you your choice. with lots of credits and linking. if we get an embed. and honestly I think that would benefit us both
[16:54] <JonniTheJuicyJ> we do have high traffic already
[16:54] <JonniTheJuicyJ> but its up to you
[16:55] <JonniTheJuicyJ> but I hope you understand we are just taking the "normal approach" for gaming news websites and i'm sorry that caused such a mess
[16:57] <loach> would have thought that the 'normal approach' involved asking first
[16:58] <JonniTheJuicyJ> not for the ones I and the guys from spinfusor.org used to be involved with
[17:00] <JonniTheJuicyJ> I really didn't want to cause all the mess, especially not cause of a post that essentially was meant to give you more viewers
[17:01] <JonniTheJuicyJ> obviously it was not percieved that way. I know that now. but that was my initial intention
[17:03] <JonniTheJuicyJ> so now that its all clear. we can feature you on our website, or not. up to you
[17:04] <loach> ok i think
[17:04] <loach> its better if you and mim speak
[17:04] <loach> and come to some sort of understanding
[17:06] <JonniTheJuicyJ> did you tell him the cliffnotes?
[17:07] <loach> yeah hes got it covered