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  1. [1:10 PM] Soganatsu 'Soggy': niceee
  2. [1:18 PM] Soganatsu 'Soggy': Well Congress just repealed protecting internet privacy so now your ISP can sell your browsing history(edited)
  3. [1:19 PM] anniesbbs: vpn provider pricing has dropped
  4. [1:19 PM] anniesbbs: i know airvpn has really dropped
  5. [1:19 PM] anniesbbs: they're good
  6. [1:19 PM] Soganatsu 'Soggy': Yeah but how you gonna connect to that VPN?
  7. [1:20 PM] anniesbbs: wut?
  8. [1:20 PM] Soganatsu 'Soggy': Well what's your modem connect through? :P
  9. [1:24 PM] SlightlyDubious 'Dubes': it doesn't matter if you connect to the VPN through your ISP though - they still can't see what's going on in the VPN
  10. [1:26 PM] Soganatsu 'Soggy': well if it's going through them and you're connecting through them to the VPN then they can see it all
  11. [1:28 PM] SlightlyDubious 'Dubes': are you saying ISPs can decrypt what is going through the VPN?
  12. [1:28 PM] SlightlyDubious 'Dubes': because then all bets are off anyways
  13. [1:28 PM] Soganatsu 'Soggy': Can certainly log it
  14. [1:28 PM] SlightlyDubious 'Dubes': log what? all they know is that you're using a VPN
  15. [1:29 PM] Soganatsu 'Soggy': any packets going to/from can be logged
  16. [1:29 PM] Soganatsu 'Soggy': and they can probably decrypt it lol
  17. [1:29 PM] anniesbbs: lol no
  18. [1:29 PM] anniesbbs: no they cannot
  19. [1:29 PM] SlightlyDubious 'Dubes': that's tinfoil hat territory ><
  20. [1:29 PM] anniesbbs: not without a lot of time, money and expensive hardware
  21. [1:30 PM] Soganatsu 'Soggy': well what do you think they've got?
  22. [1:30 PM] Soganatsu 'Soggy': lol
  23. [1:30 PM] anniesbbs: bud
  24. [1:30 PM] anniesbbs: i don't want to argue but you don't know what you're talking about
  25. [1:30 PM] anniesbbs: openvpn itself encrypts in 2048 AES
  26. [1:31 PM] anniesbbs: comcast does not have the resources to decrypt that
  27. [1:31 PM] Soganatsu 'Soggy': ...
  28. [1:31 PM] Soganatsu 'Soggy': @anniesbbs you keep on believing that a VPN will save you :stuck_out_tongue:
  29. [1:31 PM] Resident Pet Fox💚 (Rinfox): im pretty sure if there's anyone in CorD who knows what he's talking about tech wise it's soggy, lmao
  30. [1:31 PM] anniesbbs: lol soggy i have a bachelors in comp sci
  31. [1:31 PM] anniesbbs: i know what i'm talking about
  32. [1:32 PM] anniesbbs: no soggy doesn't know what he's talking about
  33. [1:32 PM] anniesbbs: if he thinks comcast can just magically decrypt AES 2048, then i laugh at you
  34. [1:32 PM] Soganatsu 'Soggy': lol
  35. [1:32 PM] Soganatsu 'Soggy': @anniesbbs get back in line
  36. [1:33 PM] anniesbbs: get back in line? get an education @Soganatsu 'Soggy'
  37. [1:33 PM] Soganatsu 'Soggy': Bachelors lol
  38. [1:33 PM] Resident Pet Fox💚 (Rinfox): Woah
  39. [1:33 PM] Resident Pet Fox💚 (Rinfox): When did this go from a polite discussion into an insulting game
  40. [1:33 PM] Mickely: can... can we not?
  41. [1:33 PM] SlightlyDubious 'Dubes': i think a current real-world actual concern is the VPN doing the logging, so you're still stuck with how much you trust the VPN
  42. [1:33 PM] Soganatsu 'Soggy': Well @anniesbbs wants to say Soggy doesn't know shit, when Soggy knows more than @anniesbbs :wink:
  43. [1:34 PM] anniesbbs: you don't but whatever makes you feel more secure about your insecurities
  44. [1:34 PM] anniesbbs: you're an idiot
  45. [1:34 PM] Resident Pet Fox💚 (Rinfox): Woah, alright
  46. [1:34 PM] Resident Pet Fox💚 (Rinfox): Step down.
  47. [1:34 PM] Soganatsu 'Soggy': and a Bachelors in Computer Science isn't gonna cut it :stuck_out_tongue:
  48. [1:34 PM] Resident Pet Fox💚 (Rinfox): Both of you need to step down
  49. [1:34 PM] Resident Pet Fox💚 (Rinfox): This is an argument for DMs and not in the server
  50. [1:34 PM] Resident Pet Fox💚 (Rinfox): No need for name calling or insults
  51. [1:37 PM] Soganatsu 'Soggy': lol
  52. [1:39 PM] 🌸Katie_LP🌸: woah, I apparently missed a lot xD
  53. [1:39 PM] Soganatsu 'Soggy': "You can trust a VPN to keep your activities private from your ISP if they do not keep VPN usage logs and records of your personal data."
  54. [1:39 PM] Soganatsu 'Soggy': Oh, Soggy is stupid :stuck_out_tongue:
  55. [1:40 PM] Soganatsu 'Soggy': @anniesbbs you see that?
  56. [1:40 PM] Resident Pet Fox💚 (Rinfox): I left when a nice discussion about VPNs was happening and I tabbed back in to arguing
  57. [1:40 PM] 🌸Katie_LP🌸: If Soggy is stupid, I must be on the mental level of a rock lmao
  58. [1:40 PM] Resident Pet Fox💚 (Rinfox): Same, katie
  59. [1:40 PM] Soganatsu 'Soggy': Guess I'm don't know what I'm talking about, the internets saying what I said
  60. [1:40 PM] The family restaurant (Zirkey): If soggy's stupid
  61. [1:40 PM] The family restaurant (Zirkey): The i'm a loaf of bread
  62. [1:40 PM] Resident Pet Fox💚 (Rinfox): Same also zirk
  63. [1:40 PM] 🌸Katie_LP🌸: who even is that btw
  64. [1:40 PM] The family restaurant (Zirkey): Who?
  65. [1:41 PM] 🌸Katie_LP🌸: the one who called soggy stupid
  66. [1:41 PM] Resident Pet Fox💚 (Rinfox): New member
  67. [1:41 PM] Soganatsu 'Soggy': yeah apparently a short fuse
  68. [1:41 PM] The family restaurant (Zirkey): ^
  69. [1:41 PM] Mickely: v
  70. [1:41 PM] Resident Pet Fox💚 (Rinfox): <
  71. [1:41 PM] The family restaurant (Zirkey): >
  72. [1:41 PM] Resident Pet Fox💚 (Rinfox): Gorgeous
  73. [1:41 PM] 🌸Katie_LP🌸: Ahhhh, surely not a bronze team applicant. The best way to not get it is to be a jerk to the other members xD
  74. [1:42 PM] SlightlyDubious 'Dubes': @Soganatsu 'Soggy' that's what i was saying about the VPN keeping logs...nothing to do with the ISP
  75. [1:42 PM] The family restaurant (Zirkey): WEllllllll
  76. [1:42 PM] The family restaurant (Zirkey): I wasn't helpful or talked to any of the cord members
  77. [1:42 PM] Soganatsu 'Soggy': @SlightlyDubious 'Dubes' that's not the VPN keeping logs, that's hte ISP keeping VPN Logs
  78. [1:42 PM] The family restaurant (Zirkey): but somehow got picked for bronze
  79. [1:42 PM] The family restaurant (Zirkey): ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  80. [1:42 PM] Resident Pet Fox💚 (Rinfox): Alright, well! Back to schoolwork now that that's settled
  81. [1:42 PM] Resident Pet Fox💚 (Rinfox): Yeah but you also weren't hyper rude @The family restaurant (Zirkey)
  82. [1:42 PM] The family restaurant (Zirkey): o 3o
  83. [1:42 PM] 🌸Katie_LP🌸: @The family restaurant (Zirkey) BUT you didn't call one of the members stupid and just rude in general :wink:
  84. [1:43 PM] Soganatsu 'Soggy': but I mean if they really want to see what you're doing they'll find a way, if you're not a high priority then you've got nothing to worry about lol
  85. [1:45 PM] anniesbbs: how cna you seriously say that a bachelor's in comp sci isn't good enough?
  86. [1:45 PM] anniesbbs: are you retartded or just scared of being wrong?
  87. [1:46 PM] Soganatsu: I've been doing this longer than you have and just because you got a bachelors in computer science doesn't mean you're a genius(edited)
  88. [1:46 PM] Soganatsu: Now what I was saying isn't false
  89. [1:46 PM] Soganatsu: and I wasn't saying they're going to get every single person
  90. [1:47 PM] Soganatsu: I was just saying that even with a VPN they can still find out what you've been up to if they really want to
  91. [1:48 PM] anniesbbs: first off, doing what for longer? spreading ignorance?
  92. [1:48 PM] Soganatsu: ok you clearly think you're just a know it all
  93. [1:48 PM] anniesbbs: i'm not saying i know it all
  94. [1:49 PM] anniesbbs: but i'm correcting you
  95. [1:49 PM] anniesbbs: that isn't wrong
  96. [1:49 PM] Soganatsu: What are you correcting?
  97. [1:49 PM] Soganatsu: you aren't correcting anything, you just said that it's impossible for them to know what you're doing
  98. [1:49 PM] anniesbbs: your claim that an ISP can decrypt your vpn traffic is fundamentally wrong
  99. [1:49 PM] anniesbbs: that's not how the internet works
  100. [1:49 PM] Soganatsu: omg...
  101. [1:49 PM] anniesbbs: that's not how encryption works
  102. [1:51 PM] Soganatsu: ok... well either way I wasn't spreading misleading information, I was just saying that it's possible
  103. [1:51 PM] Soganatsu: like holy shit, get over yourself man
  104. [1:51 PM] Soganatsu: "Oh I've got a Bachelors", get that shit out of here
  105. [1:52 PM] Soganatsu: whenever someone says that dumb shit they usually can't back their own shit up with anything but "I've got a degree"
  106. [1:52 PM] anniesbbs: lol
  107. [1:52 PM] anniesbbs: a bachelors is better than pretending
  108. [1:52 PM] Soganatsu: bitch
  109. [1:53 PM] Soganatsu: I've been doing this over 15 years
  110. [1:53 PM] Soganatsu: gtfo
  111. [1:53 PM] anniesbbs: look. i get that you're just scared of looking dumb in front of your friends
  112. [1:53 PM] Soganatsu: and something like a VPN conversation, omggggggg
  113. [1:53 PM] anniesbbs: doing what for 15 years???
  114. [1:53 PM] anniesbbs: you still haven't answered that
  115. [1:53 PM] anniesbbs: if you knew ANYTHING for 15 years, then you would know that you're wrong about how vpns work right now
  116. [1:54 PM] Soganatsu: I've been a developer for over 15 years, doing things from graphics to software engineering and IT
  117. [1:54 PM] anniesbbs: give me your IP and i'll show you how wrong you are
  118. [1:54 PM] anniesbbs: believe that
  119. [1:54 PM] Soganatsu: lol you're a jackass
  120. [1:54 PM] Soganatsu: how about you go fuck off?
  121. [1:54 PM] Soganatsu: and enjoy that piece of shit bachelors you got from a community college :wink:
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