[15:40] <Setsuna> Hello.
[15:40] <TurtleShroom> Hello.
[15:40] <TurtleShroom> Who are you?
[15:41] <Setsuna> Please don't tell anyone I'm here... I'm Korihana...
[15:41] <Setsuna> I need to tell you something, something you probably won't believe...
[15:41] <TurtleShroom> Who?
[15:41] <Setsuna> In japenese, Iceflower...
[15:42] <TurtleShroom> Oh. Hello!!
[15:42] <TurtleShroom> We all miss MM. :\
[15:42] <Setsuna> That's the thing. EM...
[15:42] <TurtleShroom> He didn't commit suicide, did he!?!
[15:42] <Setsuna> No.
[15:42] <TurtleShroom> .
[15:42] <TurtleShroom> Whew.
[15:42] <TurtleShroom> Thank goodness!!
[15:43] <Setsuna> TS, what I'm about to tell you is going to be pretty overwhelming.
[15:43] <TurtleShroom> He changed his gender?! O_O
[15:43] <TurtleShroom> HE'S GAY?!
[15:43] <Setsuna> EM, as I learned from my school's trust counselor, is really, and adult.
[15:44] <Setsuna> *an
[15:44] <TurtleShroom> He's over eighteen?
[15:44] <Setsuna> Yes.
[15:44] <TurtleShroom> Uh huh.
[15:44] <TurtleShroom> The kid barely looks ten. :|
[15:44] <Setsuna> Don't tell anyone please, and don't tell him I was here.
[15:44] <TurtleShroom> I don't even see how that is possible.
[15:44] <Setsuna> It is
[15:44] <TurtleShroom> I've seen pictures of him.
[15:44] <Setsuna> So have I.
[15:44] <TurtleShroom> He still has a high pitched voice.
[15:44] <TurtleShroom> He still has goofy teeth.
[15:45] <TurtleShroom> He's still short and has scene hair befitting a young teenager.
[15:45] <TurtleShroom> I don't see how, in all his childish form, that he could POSSIBLY be eighteen.
[15:45] <Setsuna> TS, I printed out my talk page with all the messages that you and the other users ever sent me and I gave them to my trust counselor.
[15:45] <TurtleShroom> Why?
[15:45] <TurtleShroom> Did we do something wrong?!
[15:46] <Setsuna> No... But, you were right...
[15:46] <TurtleShroom> A trust counselor manages an estate, Iceflower.
[15:46] <TurtleShroom> You're talking about inheritance here...
[15:47] <Setsuna> I shouldn't have fallen in love online... I learned that the hard way now... He doesn't have any good intentions TS...
[15:47] <TurtleShroom> Yep..... OOOOOOOOOOHHH.
[15:47] <TurtleShroom> HE'S ONLY PLAYING A LITTLE KID.
[15:47] <TurtleShroom> OKAY NOW I GET IT
[15:47] <Setsuna> Yes.
[15:47] <TurtleShroom> Then who was the kid I saw on the video? O_O
[15:47] <TurtleShroom> You know, /"Club Penguin Updation at the Apple Store"/ ?
[15:48] <TurtleShroom> ...-and that /"Salt Run"/ video?
[15:48] <Setsuna> I don't know, but I'm friends with him on Facebook and he seems to have connections
[15:48] <Setsuna> I know it's hard to believe, but it's true.
[15:48] <TurtleShroom> Well, if he's an adult playing a kid... then who IS the kid we saw?
[15:48] <TurtleShroom> That's the missing piece, friend.
[15:49] <TurtleShroom> Also, why exactly do you have an estate planner with you again? (Your "trust counselor"?)
[15:49] <Setsuna> I don't know. But, he's very smart. He'll figure out a million ways to convince any of you that he's a kid.
[15:50] <Setsuna> The trust counselor is my school's counselor.
[15:50] <TurtleShroom> Well, I want to believe you- and I sort of do already -but I need the missing piece.
[15:50] <TurtleShroom> Who is the kid he showed in the videos?
[15:51] <TurtleShroom> Solve that, and your case is solid!
[15:51] <TurtleShroom> So, if MM isn't a cutle little emoist kid with long hair... what is he?
[15:52] <Setsuna> TS, anonymity is the most powerful weapon in the internet. He could ask his neighbor, a friend, anybody to pose as him. He may even have kidnapped some children for that purpose.
[15:52] <TurtleShroom> ...-and why go through all that drawing and aid if he's really a full-fledged adult?
[15:52] <TurtleShroom> True, very true.
[15:52] <TurtleShroom> That's why I believe you.
[15:52] <Setsuna> You do?
[15:52] <TurtleShroom> That's why I'm not dismissing you.
[15:52] <TurtleShroom> Yes, you have a decent evidence to show...
[15:53] <Setsuna> Thank you so very much.
[15:53] <TurtleShroom> ...-but if you want to /convince/ me beyond just taking your word...
[15:53] <TurtleShroom> ...I need real evidence.
[15:53] <TurtleShroom> Links. Portraits. Citations...
[15:53] <Setsuna> I have some.
[15:53] <TurtleShroom> Ah, you do?
[15:53] <TurtleShroom> Well, why does this concern you so much?
[15:53] <TurtleShroom> I'm seventeen going on eighteen.
[15:53] <TurtleShroom> Adults on a kid's site isn't akways a rapist or a pedophile...
[15:54] <TurtleShroom> I mean, I'm almost of legal adulthood, and here I am, wasting my life on a CP wiki.
[15:54] <Setsuna> Because, he's been pushing me for my personal information, and is trying to convince me to meet him in real life on skype and MSN.
[15:54] <TurtleShroom> Oh.
[15:54] <TurtleShroom> Well, I know that problem.
[15:54] <TurtleShroom> Let me give you my parent's advice.
[15:54] <TurtleShroom> Log this.
[15:54] <TurtleShroom> When you're ready, let me know.
[15:55] <Setsuna> What do you mean by "log"?

[15:55] <TurtleShroom> Copy and paste what I am about to say and save it. Pass it on to your school counselor.
[15:55] <Setsuna> Okay.
[15:55] <TurtleShroom> Ready?
[15:55] <TurtleShroom> First off and foremost, you must alert your parents.
[15:55] <TurtleShroom> They need to be fully aware of all of this.
[15:55] <Setsuna> They do.
[15:56] <TurtleShroom> Second, you need to decide if you WANT to meet him. If you do, then you can do so safely if you do these steps:
[15:56] <TurtleShroom> 1. Arrange an open place.
[15:56] <TurtleShroom> 2. Bring your parents and have them have cell phones.
[15:56] <TurtleShroom> 3. Be chaperoned at all times.
[15:56] <TurtleShroom> This way, he can't hurt or kidnap you. :D
[15:57] <Setsuna> ... O_O I don't want to meet this heartless liar at all.
[15:58] <TurtleShroom> Uhh... all right.
[15:58] <TurtleShroom> There's may avenues to silence him, then.
[15:58] <TurtleShroom> First and easiest: add to your ignore list.
[15:58] <Setsuna> Okay.
[15:58] <TurtleShroom> Mark his mail as spam, his Skype as blocked, and de-friend him in all social apparatuses.
[15:59] <TurtleShroom> If he continues, this can be harassment.
[15:59] <Setsuna> wait, wait.
[15:59] <TurtleShroom> ALWAYS PRINT EVIDENCE AND TAKE SCREENSHOTS.
[15:59] <Setsuna> The reason why I'm telling you this is to keep this from ever happening on the CPFW again.
[16:00] <TurtleShroom> What, online romance? Heh, don't worry, I'll keep up the crusade.
[16:01] <Setsuna> But, despite that, EM and I were still together...
[16:01] <TurtleShroom> What do you propose I do?
[16:02] <Setsuna> I don't know... I was hoping you would...
[16:02] <TurtleShroom> Well, I can always continue my lectures and advise people if they fall into this sort of thing.
[16:02] <TurtleShroom> Remember that when you want to meet someone online, bring an escourt of *both* parents and easily contactable emergency numbers.
[16:02] <TurtleShroom> In an open area.
[16:03] <TurtleShroom> NEVER do it on your own and NEVER do it without your parents knowing!
[16:03] <Setsuna> I'm never going to even try to meet someone I don't know from online under any circumstances.
[16:04] <TurtleShroom> Well, if you ever want to, never forget the rules I set.
[16:04] <TurtleShroom> Also, when in doubt, don't.
[16:04] <TurtleShroom> My advice for you is simple.
[16:04] <TurtleShroom> Either ignore him, or meet him with a heavy escourt in an open area with full parental consent.
[16:04] <Setsuna> Okay, thank you TS, I wish I listened to your advice before all this happened.
[16:04] <TurtleShroom> It's nothing to fear. :)
[16:04] <TurtleShroom> You're welcome...
[16:04] <TurtleShroom> ...-and remember...
[16:05] <TurtleShroom> I am always eager to help you.
[16:05] <TurtleShroom> If you *EVER* , *EVER* need me, I will be available.
[16:05] <TurtleShroom> If you so wish, would you like my e-mail address?
[16:05] <TurtleShroom> I usually never share this, but I'll make a one-time exception for you.
[16:05] <TurtleShroom> I have two: a personal and a redirect.
[16:05] <TurtleShroom> If I share the redirect, it'd be better.
[16:06] <TurtleShroom> So here: turtleshroomcpfw1@gmail.com
[16:06] <Setsuna> Okay.
[16:06] <TurtleShroom> Got that?
[16:06] <TurtleShroom> So here: turtleshroomcpfw1@gmail.com
[16:06] <Setsuna> Yes.
[16:06] <TurtleShroom> Contact me any time you need me. I'd be honored to assist.
[16:06] <TurtleShroom> ...-and if push comes to shove, I'm turning eighteen very soon. I'll defend you in court. :D
[16:07] <TurtleShroom> If MM gets aggressive, *print everything and keep copies forever* .
[16:07] <TurtleShroom> That way, when you file for restraining order or something, *you have evidence* .
[16:07] <TurtleShroom> *The data you gave to your counselor should NOT be thrown away.*
[16:07] <Setsuna> =) Thank you so much TS, but... What do we do now? Are you going to let him continue to go on the CPFW?
[16:08] <TurtleShroom> He never comes online, friend.
[16:08] <TurtleShroom> He hasn't come in months.
[16:08] <TurtleShroom> He quit, acutally.
[16:08] <TurtleShroom> Iceflower, it seems that you are assuming he's an adult because he wants to meet you.
[16:08] <TurtleShroom> This is the smart assumption.
[16:08] <TurtleShroom> ...-and I condone it. :)
[16:09] <TurtleShroom> However, he could be honest in deed. That's when you'd need an escourt of both parents in a bright open area. ;)
[16:09] <Setsuna> That, and the fact that he is WAY too mature to be a kid.
[16:09] <TurtleShroom> Well, so is my sister.
[16:09] <TurtleShroom> ...-but she is and she still has a childhood to go.
[16:09] <TurtleShroom> Some people mature faster than others.
[16:09] <TurtleShroom> Heck, my sister could be emancipated of minor right now and thrive...
[16:10] <TurtleShroom> ...-but she wants to live out high school and her youth, first.
[16:10] <TurtleShroom> Whatever you choose, I'll back you. If you /EVER/ need me, I'll contact you.
[16:10] <TurtleShroom> Correction.
[16:11] <TurtleShroom> You'll contact me./
[16:11] <TurtleShroom> I'll be there for you. :D
[16:12] <Setsuna> Thank you so very much TS, I knew you'll understand.
[16:12] <TurtleShroom> You're welcome, Iceflower.
[16:13] <TurtleShroom> ...-and like I said years ago, you are going to be an outstanding and upright young woman if you act like this in real life.
[16:14] == TurtleShroom [~TurtleShr@unaffiliated/turtleshroom]
[16:14] == realname : This is the official IRC User of TurtleShroom, fro
[16:14] == channels : @#clubpenguinfanon
[16:14] == server : calvino.freenode.net [Milan, IT]
[16:14] == account : TurtleShroom
[16:14] == End of WHOIS
[16:14] <TurtleShroom> Hey, you remember my e-mail, okay? My family expects great things from me, and if I do hit it big, I'm certain to pull my online contacts with me.
[16:15] <TurtleShroom> Who knows? Maybe I'll get the honor of meeting you one day. Just bring an escourt, though, okay? Heh. ;)
[16:15] <Setsuna> Trust me, I'll never forget you or the CPFW, ever.
[16:15] <TurtleShroom> Thank you, Iceflower.
[16:15] <TurtleShroom> Have you considered re-joining, just as yourself?
[16:16] <Setsuna> What do you mean?
[16:16] <TurtleShroom> You're a pretty good writer if you'd overcome your humility and shyness.
[16:16] <TurtleShroom> I mean come on down and write some stuff!
[16:16] <TurtleShroom> I'll try and arrange transfer of ownership of MM's work over to you, so you can build some character foundation, or something! If this is what you wish.
[16:17] <TurtleShroom> Writing is a lot of fun.
[16:17] <TurtleShroom> You were never too active on the wiki, but you should have been.
[16:17] <TurtleShroom> Write your character or something, and just build from there.
[16:17] <TurtleShroom> Edit something ,do something... we're desperate for new users and fresh ideas.
[16:17] <Setsuna> I already did, but I guess I just stopped there...
[16:17] <TurtleShroom> ...-and would be honored to have an upstanding person as yourself.
[16:18] <TurtleShroom> Anyway, I'm humbled that you considered me a first contact in this time of worry.
[16:18] <TurtleShroom> That means a lot.
[16:19] <Setsuna> Yeah, I knew I could go to you of all people here because you really are such a great person.
[16:21] <Setsuna> ... Are you sure I should join the new site? I'm not so sure after all this...
[16:22] <TurtleShroom> Absolutely, Iceflower.
[16:22] <TurtleShroom> It's the same as the old site.
[16:22] <TurtleShroom> Just stay away from "Help_talk:Laws".
[16:22] <TurtleShroom> Reformers are flaming again. 9_9
[16:22] <Setsuna> Oh.
[16:22] <TurtleShroom> I hope to see you there.
[16:23] <TurtleShroom> Besides, what's gone is gone! Certainly, you won't fall for it again. :D
[16:23] <TurtleShroom> /Fool me once.../
[16:23] <Setsuna> Yeah, I learned a lot from this experience. Romance should definitely stick to the offline world.
[16:24] <TurtleShroom> LOL, I'm not going to say I told you so, because you told me several times. :D
[16:24] <TurtleShroom> Or, as the cool folks would type: ^_^
[16:24] <TurtleShroom> Anyway, I hope to see you on the CPFW soon, and I hope, even more so, that you have a great day.
[16:25] frigg [~frigg@freenode/utility-bot/frigg] requested CTCP VERSION from Setsuna:
[16:27] <Setsuna> Thanks, and I'm sure you'll see me again, since I just can't forget about this website or any of the users in it. You may not know this but the CPFW has really changed my life, completely. And I hope you have a great day too TS.
[16:28] <TurtleShroom> :D
[16:28] <TurtleShroom> You're not alone.
[16:28] <TurtleShroom> It did mine, too. :D
[16:28] <TurtleShroom> Good bye.
[16:29] <Setsuna> Bye, and thank you once again. =)