both the old and new in hell

/hhg/ Helluva Hotel general #768, #769
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>Alastor's steadfast refusal to move too far past the era he lived and died in is something of an oddity
>Most sinners tend to embrace modernity as it trickles down to them from uptop (as evidenced by Angel Dust, death c. 1940s, pole-dancing to electronic music in a neon-drenched strip club)
>But all of them are still products of their time and circumstances, and some of them never shed certain elements of their earthly lives
>Angel Dust still calls refrigerators "ice boxes" even though they're not the same thing
>Both he and Niffty lived well before Fusarium Wilt wiped out the original bananna monoculture, and complain at every opportunity about how bananas don't taste the same as they remember
>Sir Pentious, clearly, never graduated from aerostats to aerodynes
>He also never entirely shook off humoric theory, or the old belief in the medicinal properties of strychnine and cocaine
>Vaggie still talks like its somewhere in between the Myspace and Facebook eras. Go figure.
>Baxter sometimes describes or introduces himself as a "computer" because back in his day a "computer" was a person whose job it was to do lengthy and complex mathematical calculations (like the kind involved in ridiculous superchemistry experiments)
>Crymini can't quite drop the 90s-ish raditude and is secretly embarrassed that she thinks "Walking On The Sun" is a jam after all this time
>Charlie, having been born in Hell long ago, has just accumulated more and more vocabulary over time. She sometimes uses "nice" to mean "silly and lecherous", talks about how certain things "embrangle" a problem, responds "true dat" to things she agrees with on occasion, describes boiling liquids as "leng" etc...
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Nice.
>in private, Tom talks about Britain as still being a World-spanning empire, often forgetting that the old order died with the war that killed him
>though isolated from street lingo by her position and job, and having shaken off the phraseology of the era, Katie still lives with a very '80s mindset, and sometimes forgets that the USSR isn't around anymore
>only Vox has perfectly adapted to the modern era, and thus, he feels alien to everyone
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>When Charlie meets european sinners who died in the middle ages, she describes herself as "gentle", not because she fits the modern definition of the term (though she obviously does), but because back in their time period "gentle" was how you described people of royal blood.
>Vaggie thinks its cute that she fits both the old and new definitions of the word
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>Angel Dust is a decent cook
>He also desperately misses the "automats" that were a staple of dining on-the-go during his lifetime, long before drive-ins and drive-thrus and delivery services were a thing.
>He always tells himself that someday, when he gets clean and gets out from under Valentino's thumb, he'll open one
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>One thing pretty much everyone who died before the wonderbread era can agree on is their love of highly refined, highly processed white bread
>From the day they were born to the day they died, white bread was the most desirable for their table.
>Fluffy, snowy white, and well risen. Prepared from wheat flour that had been refined and stripped off as much germ and bran as possible. As devoid of flavor and nutrition as they could make it.
>Such breads were a status symbol, reserved for the upper echelons of society from the bronze age all the way to the modern period, because they required more labor to produce
>The perfectly square, cotton-soft, marble-white grocery store sandwich loaf is one thing they're astounded to find in HELL of all places ("aren't we here to be punished?")
>They can't figure out why sinners who died roughly from the 1960s CE onwards seem to have such a hardon for dense, brown peasant bread full of nuts and seeds
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>Sinners who fancy themselves historians love to meet sinners from eras long gone
>Find out if those wacky theories about the ancients having figured out a crude form of electric lighting were true, where Jimmy Hoffa's body is, who the mysterious "sea peoples" of the Bronze Age Collapse were
>Prognosticators from earlier eras meet sinners who died recently with a mixture of hope and dread
>The ones who hoped that measles and polio might someday be cured are happy to hear that they've been beaten
>The ones who were fans of Aldus Huxley are depressed to hear about how spot-on many predictions in Brave New World were
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This post it triggering my fight or flight instinct
What’s your opinion on deforestation?
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It's a bad thing. I'm just saying. All the way back to Pliny the Elder, people were wanking on about how much they liked white bread. The ancient romans and medieval peasants would have been floored at the prospect of getting to eat white bread for the cost of less than an hours worth of labor.
h ttps://youtu.be/Sw2qrt6tOKw
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h ttps://youtu.be/Sw2qrt6tOKw?t=151
meant to post video link w/ timecode where he quotes Pliny gushing over how much he likes bland white bread.
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Also what does deforestation have to do with this other than being a consequence of expanding agriculture?