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  1. [19:59] <@maggosh> Such as "List of Rings in 358", yeah.
  2. [19:59] == LightRoxas [47cddace@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.205.218.206] has quit [Quit: Page closed]
  3. [19:59] <@maggosh> "List of Armor in KHII"
  4. [20:00] <@maggosh> Etc.
  5. [20:00] <@maggosh> Yay or nay?
  6. [20:00] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> RoxasNobody also offered himself, Inex
  7. [20:00] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> Yay
  8. [20:00] <Darkheart3> Yat
  9. [20:00] <Keyblade0> Yay!
  10. [20:00] <LegoAlchristmas> I don't understand, Socks.
  11. [20:00] <Darkheart3> *Yay
  12. [20:00] <HikariKH> That'd be organised and easy to navigate. Yay
  13. [20:00] <LegoAlchristmas> OATH is certainly a good editor.
  14. [20:00] <Chitalian> Wait
  15. [20:00] <Chitalian> GUYS
  16. [20:00] <HikariKH> Yes?
  17. [20:00] <Darkheart3> What?
  18. [20:00] <Chitalian> What are we doing about the magic pages?
  19. [20:00] <Keyblade0> Yes...?
  20. [20:00] <Keyblade0> ...
  21. [20:00] <Sox|Simba> Lego, that has some of the ability articles that were created since the split (OATH was a major contributor to those articles)
  22. [20:00] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> we keep the best one, as with any other...?
  23. [20:00] <Chitalian> Considering that we made the "Element" pages.
  24. [20:00] <@Ankou> Yes. Naturally.
  25. [20:00] <Chitalian> http://www.khwiki.net/Thunder_%28Element%29
  26. [20:01] <LegoAlchristmas> The magic should stay on its own articles.
  27. [20:01] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> ... then we apply information accordingly
  28. [20:01] <LegoAlchristmas> "Thunder", etc.
  29. [20:01] <HikariKH> Take what's best and merge
  30. [20:01] <Keyblade0> ^
  31. [20:01] <LegoAlchristmas> Magic elements are a category of their own.
  32. [20:02] <@Ankou> The element is only partly related to the spell, and cannot be considered the spell. So Thunder and Thunder (Element) rightly have their separate articles, and they look full enough.
  33. [20:02] <@Ankou> In terms of information.
  34. [20:02] <Darkheart3> ^
  35. [20:02] <HikariKH> ^
  36. [20:02] <Keyblade0> ^
  37. [20:02] <@maggosh> Hmm.
  38. [20:02] <@ErryK> I haven't passed out yet.
  39. [20:02] <LegoAlchristmas> Wait.
  40. [20:02] <@Ankou> Alright... Summary decision on this matter before we move on?
  41. [20:02] <@Ankou> ?
  42. [20:02] == mode/#KHWiki-noticeboard [+o Ankou] by ChanServ
  43. [20:03] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> We merge the best of each article into the merged wiki.
  44. [20:03] <LegoAlchristmas> Yes.
  45. [20:03] <RoxasXIIILK> ^
  46. [20:03] <@maggosh> Aye.
  47. [20:03] <Darkheart3> Agreed
  48. [20:03] <@Ankou> Alright.
  49. [20:03] <Keyblade0> Yay.
  50. [20:03] <HikariKH> Agreed
  51. [20:03] <Chainoffire_> mmhmm
  52. [20:03] <@Ankou> Shall we move on, then?
  53. [20:03] <Chitalian> Images and renders?
  54. [20:03] <LegoAlchristmas> That's a sentance, not a summary.
  55. [20:03] <Darkheart3> Please do
  56. [20:03] <Keyblade0> What about .gifs?
  57. [20:03] <Chitalian> We're keeping DE's renders.
  58. [20:03] <Darkheart3> Yay!
  59. [20:03] <Chaser> yes we are
  60. [20:03] <KRCCFNF> Yes.
  61. [20:04] <LegoAlchristmas> Wait,
  62. [20:04] <Keyblade0> Okay.
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  64. [20:04] <Chitalian> Am I the only one partial to putting an "Action" render in the character's Abilities section?
  65. [20:04] <Darkheart3> Lego?
  66. [20:04] <LegoAlchristmas> they won't be used for the head image, though.
  67. [20:04] <Chainoffire_> does the wiki allow fan-made TBS?
  68. [20:04] <KRCCFNF> NO.
  69. [20:04] <Keyblade0> TBS?
  70. [20:04] <Darkheart3> Off-Site
  71. [20:04] <KRCCFNF> *No.
  72. [20:04] <LegoAlchristmas> No matter how crappy an official render is, Kryten still makes a good point.
  73. [20:04] <Chaser> we can, look at the twilight thorn render
  74. [20:04] <Chitalian> http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/File:Xemnas_Final_Form_Render_%28Action_1%29_KHII.png For example, putting that image in Xemnas' Abilities section?
  75. [20:04] <@ErryK> Yes, only if they're hosted off-site.
  76. [20:04] <Chainoffire_> talk bubble sprites
  77. [20:04] <Keyblade0> Oh okay.
  78. [20:04] <@maggosh> One moment.
  79. [20:04] <@Ankou> TBS are all hosted off-site, official or otherwise, as far as I remember.
  80. [20:05] <Darkheart3> Even official?!
  81. [20:05] <Chainoffire_> yes, but will they be allowed?
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  83. [20:05] <KRCCFNF> I think that, if the render is posed similarly to the useless/ incomplete official image, it should be used.
  84. [20:05] <Chitalian> OFF-SITE, GUYS
  85. [20:05] <@Ankou> Chain, they will be, because templates RELY on talk bubble sprites. That means,
  86. [20:05] <@Ankou> they can't be uploaded on the wiki.
  87. [20:05] <@Ankou> But you can link them from Photobucket.
  88. [20:05] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> Well, what about using actionr enders as alternate images for the boss page?
  89. [20:05] <@maggosh> http://www.khwiki.net/index.php?title=Forum:SPECIAL_ROUNDTABLE:_COMMUNITY_FUSION&t=20111223040107
  90. [20:05] <Chitalian> DE, I agree.
  91. [20:05] <Chainoffire_> thats what i meant, thank you
  92. [20:05] <@maggosh> "...renders are not fanart. They are fan-posed, certainly, but not fanart. It's totally fine to move over all of DE's stuff, I'm just...not totally comfortable saying "his art has to be on every single page", for various reasons. If the official art is totally unusable, then fan-renders are fine. Otherwise, they should go on a gallery page like all of the other art."
  93. [20:05] <@maggosh> \--Kryten
  94. [20:05] <Chitalian> Again, or putting them in Abilities section.
  95. [20:06] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> or both
  96. [20:06] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> We can find a place for them
  97. [20:06] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> not neccesarily in the infobox
  98. [20:06] <Keyblade0> Oh yeah...speaking of galleries...
  99. [20:06] <Chitalian> And again, most of the galleries that you guys have are more expansive than ours.
  100. [20:06] <LegoAlchristmas> What Kryten via maggosh said.
  101. [20:06] <Darkheart3> I agree with DE, put Action Renders in Boss pages
  102. [20:07] <Chitalian> By the way
  103. [20:07] <Chitalian> http://www.khwiki.net/File:DaysRoxas.png
  104. [20:07] <Chitalian> Images like that? Yeah, they go up for deletion.
  105. [20:07] <LegoAlchristmas> asdfjkl;
  106. [20:07] <LegoAlchristmas> No.
  107. [20:07] <LegoAlchristmas> Keep all of those.
  108. [20:07] <LegoAlchristmas> THey're official images.
  109. [20:07] <@maggosh> Exactly.
  110. [20:07] <Chitalian> Well, somebody's gotta go around removing the delete tag >.>
  111. [20:07] <@maggosh> Who put it up for deletion, anyway?
  112. [20:07] <@Ankou> I thought even the official ones were hosted offsite? Or that's what I heard aroudn the grapevine?
  113. [20:07] <KRCCFNF> @Lego - That one has been editted.
  114. [20:07] <LegoAlchristmas> I am of the opinion that EVERY single OFFICIAL Kingdom Hearts image should be on the wiki.
  115. [20:07] <LegoAlchristmas> TI: I know.
  116. [20:08] <@Ankou> My first guess would be Kryten or Neumannz, but I might be very wrong.
  117. [20:08] <Chitalian> How was it edited now?
  118. [20:08] <LegoAlchristmas> Unless we can get our hands on the originals.
  119. [20:08] <@Ankou> Very, very wrong.
  120. [20:08] <LegoAlchristmas> The red bar below it was cropped.
  121. [20:08] <@ErryK> Plus, your renders could be used for the wiki walkthroughs instead of infoboxes.
  122. [20:08] <KRCCFNF> IT SHOULD HAVE A RED BAR ON THE BOTTOM.
  123. [20:08] <Chitalian> Cropped =/= editing.
  124. [20:08] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> Lemme get you guys an example of images that I can replace:
  125. [20:08] <Darkheart3> And it was flipped
  126. [20:08] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> http://www.khwiki.net/File:Twilight_Thorn_KHII.png your image
  127. [20:08] <LegoAlchristmas> That's correct.
  128. [20:08] <KRCCFNF> THEREFORE, EDITTED. PLUS IT WAS REFLECTED.
  129. [20:08] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> See how its cute in the scarf
  130. [20:08] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/File:Twilight_Thorn_Render_(Action)_KHII.png OUR image
  131. [20:08] <LegoAlchristmas> I've been trying to get the Twilight THorn image fixed for years.
  132. [20:09] <LegoAlchristmas> Absolutely, use the fan render.
  133. [20:09] <@Ankou> On the boss page, hopefully?
  134. [20:09] <HikariKH> For attack description?
  135. [20:09] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> Yes. Its the only page the T.thorn gets
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  137. [20:09] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> In the infobox, I'd say
  138. [20:09] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> the current T.Thorn image is cut off
  139. [20:10] <Chaser> also another example:
  140. [20:10] <Keyblade0> Okay...as I was going to say earlier.....since I really need clearing up on this...
  141. [20:10] <@maggosh> Brb, guys.
  142. [20:10] <Keyblade0> Why is it that one page (like the article on Sora) has a gallery on a seperate page, and other pages (Like pete) has the gallery on the same page?
  143. [20:10] <Chaser> http://www.khwiki.net/images/1/1f/Armor_of_the_Master_KHBBSFM.png
  144. [20:10] <Chaser> official render
  145. [20:10] <Chitalian> Low-quality
  146. [20:10] <Chaser> http://www.khwiki.net/images/3/3c/MA_Mentor_of_Light.png one used in the "icon"
  147. [20:10] <Chaser> http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110724015429/kingdomhearts/images/1/1f/Armor_of_the_Master_KHBBSFM.png
  148. [20:11] <Darkheart3> much better
  149. [20:11] <Chaser> yes it matches the images in the icon
  150. [20:11] <LegoAlchristmas> It looks better, ues.
  151. [20:11] <LegoAlchristmas> *yes.
  152. [20:11] <LegoAlchristmas> BUt the official render is perfectly usable.
  153. [20:11] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> Much more color fidelity as well
  154. [20:11] <LegoAlchristmas> It's a little grainy, but it isn't bad.
  155. [20:11] <@Ankou> I agree with LA.
  156. [20:11] <@Ankou> I'm good with that, although I can't help but feel that some parts are a bit too sharp for my liking...
  157. [20:11] <@Ankou> by too sharp, I'm talking about the fan render.
  158. [20:11] <HikariKH> Agreeing with LA
  159. [20:11] <@Ankou> Also,
  160. [20:12] <@ErryK> So what... did we agree on using the fanposed renders for the walkthroughs in exchange of those that are used on legitimate articles?
  161. [20:12] <Chitalian> http://www.khwiki.net/images/2/20/Riku_Replica_KH.png This is bad.
  162. [20:12] <@Ankou> I don't remember the E on Eraqus' teeth being completely paper thin (on AM's fan render.)
  163. [20:12] <@Ankou> Eraqus' keyblade's teeth*
  164. [20:12] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> That's the model, I must say
  165. [20:12] <LegoAlchristmas> That isn't bad at all, Chitty.
  166. [20:12] <@ErryK> That's the PSP's rendering.
  167. [20:12] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> ^
  168. [20:12] <Chitalian> Look at his hands.
  169. [20:12] <@Ankou> They look decent to me.
  170. [20:12] <Keyblade0> Yup.
  171. [20:12] <@Ankou> The first thing that stood out was the graininess.
  172. [20:13] <LegoAlchristmas> Same, they look fine.
  173. [20:13] <Chitalian> It looks messy.
  174. [20:13] <@Ankou> But show us the other render, please.
  175. [20:13] <Chitalian> There are missing pixels.
  176. [20:13] <LegoAlchristmas> THe HANDS look messy.
  177. [20:13] <Chainoffire_> its very bright too
  178. [20:13] <LegoAlchristmas> But that image is large and clear enough to convey its subject.,
  179. [20:13] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> There's no other render, yet
  180. [20:13] <Darkheart3> ^
  181. [20:13] <@Ankou> Well, if someone can reextract this one but with better pixelage,
  182. [20:13] <@Ankou> we can solve the problem, can we not?
  183. [20:13] <HikariKH> Think so
  184. [20:13] <Keyblade0> I believe we can.
  185. [20:13] <LegoAlchristmas> Absolutely.
  186. [20:13] <@ErryK> Guys...
  187. [20:13] <LegoAlchristmas> The question is:
  188. [20:13] <LegoAlchristmas> Where did that image come from.
  189. [20:13] <@ErryK> [04:12] ErryK So what... did we agree on using the fanposed renders for the walkthroughs in exchange of those that are used on legitimate articles?
  190. [20:13] <Keyblade0> Yes, EK?
  191. [20:13] <LegoAlchristmas> THat's another thing.
  192. [20:13] <@maggosh> Ankou: You mean antialiasing, correct?
  193. [20:14] <LegoAlchristmas> Our images need to be cited.
  194. [20:14] <@Ankou> Maggosh: Yes.
  195. [20:14] <LegoAlchristmas> this has nothing to do with the merge.
  196. [20:14] <@Ankou> ErryK: I wouldn't think for all of them, no.
  197. [20:14] <LegoAlchristmas> It's just something I think needs to be done.
  198. [20:14] <@Ankou> I would still think, the better image is used, and if the official render is better, it stays.
  199. [20:14] <LegoAlchristmas> Erry: I see nothing wrong with using fanrenders on walkthroughs.
  200. [20:14] <@Ankou> If not, the other image goes on.
  201. [20:14] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> So
  202. [20:14] <LegoAlchristmas> Walkthroughs are technically fan-concieved anyway, in terms of style.
  203. [20:15] <@Ankou> He was talking about using them on articles....
  204. [20:15] <@Ankou> Actual ones.
  205. [20:15] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111009203453/kingdomhearts/images/7/7d/Xemnas_Render_%28Action_1%29_KHII.png dont you agree this would fit a boss page or boss box better than the normal one?
  206. [20:15] <@Ankou> Erm.....
  207. [20:15] <@maggosh> I agree.
  208. [20:15] <@Ankou> It's actionish, but I find this a bit dull.
  209. [20:15] <Keyblade0> YES.
  210. [20:15] <@ErryK> No no no no no, I meant using them on the walkthroughs IN EXCHANGE of the legitimate render that is USED on the article.
  211. [20:15] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> not as dull as the current ones
  212. [20:15] <@maggosh> Maybe you pose his face?
  213. [20:15] <Keyblade0> Er...I mean....Yes, we should use that.
  214. [20:15] <LegoAlchristmas> I agree with Ankou.
  215. [20:15] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> I posed his face
  216. [20:15] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> he's smiling otherwise
  217. [20:16] <Chitalian> Guys, Xemnas is emotionless.
  218. [20:16] <@maggosh> I mean more.
  219. [20:16] <Chitalian> =.=
  220. [20:16] <@maggosh> Narorw his eyes.
  221. [20:16] <@maggosh> *Narrow
  222. [20:16] <Chainoffire_> could we use the one from the JF2012 trailer? or is there not a good enough shot for that?
  223. [20:16] <LegoAlchristmas> It isn't the expression that's dull in my opinion.
  224. [20:16] <@Ankou> It's a question of which is the better image, and we have to pick between the official render and the fan render for each article, we handpick.
  225. [20:16] <LegoAlchristmas> The pose, to me, looks a bit awkward.
  226. [20:16] <@maggosh> The pose could be more dynamic.
  227. [20:16] <@Ankou> And I wasn't talking about the expression.
  228. [20:16] <LegoAlchristmas> But it's a fantastic render.
  229. [20:16] <Keyblade0> ^
  230. [20:16] <LegoAlchristmas> Let's not sit here and decide how good his renders are.
  231. [20:16] <@Ankou> Yes. That can be done for later.
  232. [20:16] <LegoAlchristmas> They're great -- there's no denying that.
  233. [20:16] <Chitalian> Anything else re: images?
  234. [20:16] <@maggosh> Flawlesst.
  235. [20:16] <@maggosh> 7/3
  236. [20:16] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> As long as you dont throw it all to the can...
  237. [20:17] <Chitalian> We won't. If nothing else, they'll go onto galleries.
  238. [20:17] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> I would like to cover music files (images=media)
  239. [20:17] <@Ankou> Alright.
  240. [20:17] <@Ankou> Go on.
  241. [20:17] <LightRoxas|iPod> What's next?
  242. [20:17] <@Ankou> Images.
  243. [20:17] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> We actually have the FULL ost of Kingdom Hearts
  244. [20:17] <@Ankou> And media.
  245. [20:17] <@Ankou> And music files.
  246. [20:17] <LegoAlchristmas> We're not done.
  247. [20:17] <Chitalian> So basically
  248. [20:17] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> music samples for all the songs in all the soundtracks
  249. [20:17] <Chitalian> provide the songs we don't have
  250. [20:18] <LegoAlchristmas> What about song articles?
  251. [20:18] <Chitalian> Reupload ones if they are unsatisfactory
  252. [20:18] <LegoAlchristmas> I had a proposal a while ago -- making articles for certain significant songs.
  253. [20:18] <@Ankou> I suggest song articles will be for prominent songs that recur, e.g. Dearly Beloved, Another Side etc.
  254. [20:18] <@Ankou> Dearly Beloved — definite must.
  255. [20:18] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> all our samples are 50 seconds long, with 5 seconds fade in and 5 seconds fade out
  256. [20:19] <LegoAlchristmas> The article would detail when they played -- what their significance is -- what songs use their themes.
  257. [20:19] <LegoAlchristmas> Mostle character articles would fit this bill.
  258. [20:19] <LegoAlchristmas> *Mostly
  259. [20:19] <Chitalian> http://www.khwiki.net/Beyond_the_Door I'm not even sure why we have this song.
  260. [20:19] <LightRoxas|iPod> Music articles are a must
  261. [20:19] <@maggosh> How's this;
  262. [20:19] <KRCCFNF> COUGH http://www.khwiki.net/Category:Songs
  263. [20:19] <KRCCFNF> We've had ALL of those for a long time.
  264. [20:19] <@maggosh> If it appears in 3 or more games, excluding FMs and remakes...
  265. [20:19] <Chaser> http://www.khwiki.net/Category:Music
  266. [20:19] <KRCCFNF> Dearly Beloved was the first article I ever rewrote.
  267. [20:20] <@maggosh> It warrants its own article.
  268. [20:20] <LegoAlchristmas> That's a fantastic example of my idea.
  269. [20:20] <@Ankou> Chitalian: Because it is tied to Kingdom Hearts, though I could argue for you in putting it under Kingdom Hearts (World).
  270. [20:20] <LegoAlchristmas> That sounds reasonable, maggosh.
  271. [20:20] <@maggosh> It's roughly the same principle of the FF Wiki.
  272. [20:20] <Chainoffire_> what about music that isn't tied to a world?
  273. [20:21] <@Ankou> The less significant ones don't get their articles.
  274. [20:21] <@Ankou> One would need the full OST page to read about them.
  275. [20:21] <RoxasNobody> what about boss themes?
  276. [20:21] <Keyblade0> The Twinkle in the Sky music....?
  277. [20:21] <Darkheart3> if there not tied to a world, they are generally character themes
  278. [20:21] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> In wikia we added the boss themes to the boss infobox
  279. [20:21] <Chainoffire_> "Sora's sacrifce"
  280. [20:21] <@Ankou> If a boss theme is linked to a certain character, it goes on the character/boss page.
  281. [20:21] <Darkheart3> ^
  282. [20:21] <Sox|Simba> we'd have to have a vote for each music, or some kind of line to draw between significant and otherwise
  283. [20:21] <Chainoffire_> but sora also has his own theme
  284. [20:21] <Sox|Simba> the latter is more favorable
  285. [20:22] <@Ankou> Keyblade0: Twinkle in the Sky would probably go for the Lanes Between.
  286. [20:22] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Vanitas_Remnant_(Boss) <--- And example of music in the boss infobox
  287. [20:22] <@Ankou> Or the Gummi Ship.
  288. [20:22] <LegoAlchristmas> Why not have an article that lists music?
  289. [20:22] <@Ankou> I thought we already did....
  290. [20:22] <LegoAlchristmas> "List of music in Kingdom Hearts II"
  291. [20:22] <@Ankou> The OST pages do.
  292. [20:22] <@Ankou> Kingdom Hearts II: Original Soundtrack does that.
  293. [20:22] <Keyblade0> But isn't Twinkle in the Sky the name for the world map songs in KHI, II, BBS? Is that going to cause confusion?
  294. [20:23] <LegoAlchristmas> Only these pages actually have information on the songs (and samples of the songs) themselves, rather than just a list.
  295. [20:23] <@Ankou> Keyblade0: We can distinguish.
  296. [20:23] <Chitalian> That'd be a long-ass page.
  297. [20:23] <@Ankou> Are we going to talk about the Gummi Ship, or the Lanes Between now?
  298. [20:23] <Keyblade0> Ok.
  299. [20:24] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> <Dark-EnigmaXIII> http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Vanitas_Remnant_(Boss) <--- And example of music in the boss infobox
  300. [20:24] <@Ankou> I know.
  301. [20:24] <@Ankou> Also, I have another question —
  302. [20:24] <@ErryK> Twinkle in the Sky is the KHII music. A variant Precious Stars in the Sky is the KH music, along with Blast Away! Gummi Ship I, II and III. However the Lanes Between is "The Worlds".
  303. [20:24] <@Ankou> Do the OST pages actually have the 50-second samples?
  304. [20:24] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> no
  305. [20:24] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> they dont
  306. [20:24] <@Ankou> Alright. Will it be worth putting the samples in there, or do we leave them for their respective pages, or do we play it both ways?
  307. [20:25] <Crono|Away> TNE :O
  308. [20:25] <@Ankou> :)
  309. [20:25] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> both ways would be perfect, I'd say
  310. [20:25] <@Ankou> Guys?
  311. [20:25] <@ErryK> Do we have pages for the gummi missions in KHFM/KHII?
  312. [20:25] <@Ankou> Yes, we do.
  313. [20:25] <Keyblade0> I believe so.
  314. [20:25] <@ErryK> So then the music would go there, no?
  315. [20:25] <@Ankou> I should think so.
  316. [20:25] <@Ankou> BUT:
  317. [20:25] <@Ankou> What I'm asking is...
  318. [20:26] <Keyblade0> Yes?
  319. [20:26] <HikariKH> ?
  320. [20:26] <@Ankou> Should we ALSO put the music samples on the OST pages too, or should we leave them for their respective "other" pages only?
  321. [20:26] <LegoAlchristmas> tst
  322. [20:26] <LegoAlchristmas> test
  323. [20:26] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> Both ways seems better for me, and it cant hurt
  324. [20:26] <LegoAlchristmas> OKay, excellent, I didn't miss anything
  325. [20:26] <LegoAlchristmas> Forgive me, my laptop died.
  326. [20:26] <@ErryK> I think if we're going to put the samples on the OST pages
  327. [20:26] <@ErryK> We should create a huge template JUST for that.
  328. [20:26] <@Ankou> Not necessarily....
  329. [20:27] <@Ankou> If we have the default music player file,
  330. [20:27] <@Ankou> I mean...
  331. [20:27] <@Ankou> music player,
  332. [20:27] <@Ankou> shouldn't a table be able to support it?
  333. [20:27] <KRCCFNF> Why don't we make a Project:Music after the merge, where we'll decide it?
  334. [20:27] <@Ankou> http://wikirby.info/Gourmet_Race
  335. [20:27] <@Ankou> This is an example.
  336. [20:27] <@ErryK> I dunno... that's why I was suggesting a table.
  337. [20:27] <@ErryK> a template*
  338. [20:27] <@ErryK> <_>
  339. [20:27] <Keyblade0> Um...is the wiki going to be in major trouble if we happen to have the full music there?
  340. [20:27] <Keyblade0> Just curious.
  341. [20:27] <@Ankou> No.
  342. [20:27] <@Ankou> 50 second samples = NOT FULL THING.
  343. [20:27] <@Ankou> We're following fair use law.
  344. [20:27] <@Ankou> Even their site does the same thing.
  345. [20:28] <Keyblade0> I know, but-Oh olay.
  346. [20:28] <Keyblade0> *okay
  347. [20:28] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> It'll be alright as long as it doesnt surpass a minute long.
  348. [20:28] <@Ankou> And by table for the music players,
  349. [20:28] <@Ankou> I meant "standard table".
  350. [20:28] <@ErryK> Where's the table on that article?
  351. [20:28] <@Ankou> Hold on, wrong site
  352. [20:28] <@Ankou> I meant to refer to the Wikia.
  353. [20:28] <@Ankou> http://kirby.wikia.com/wiki/Gourmet_Race
  354. [20:28] <@Ankou> There.
  355. [20:29] <Keyblade0> :D Gourmet Race
  356. [20:29] <@Ankou> Maybe a template might help, but I'm not sure. What do you guys think?
  357. [20:29] <@ErryK> I think a collapsible template would work best.
  358. [20:29] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> that would work in a soundtrack page, I think
  359. [20:29] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> both ideas
  360. [20:29] <@ErryK> Because it'll take a large area of the article.
  361. [20:29] <@Ankou> Collapsible sounds alright, but would it go for all articles where the samples are featured?
  362. [20:29] <Sox|Simba> collapsible tables can wreck a page if theyre too large
  363. [20:30] <@Ankou> Even in the event we put them in the OST pages?
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  365. [20:30] <KRCCFNF> Why don't we make a Project:Music after the merge, where we'll decide it?
  366. [20:30] <KRCCFNF> Why don't we make a Project:Music after the merge, where we'll decide it?
  367. [20:30] <@Ankou> Yes, I suggest we make that move.
  368. [20:30] <LegoAlchristmas> I donp't see why not.
  369. [20:30] <LegoAlchristmas> *don't
  370. [20:30] <@Ankou> Thanks, KRCCFNF.
  371. [20:30] <RoxasXIIILK> ^ ^
  372. [20:30] <Keyblade0> Let's do that then.
  373. [20:30] <Chainoffire_> good idear
  374. [20:30] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> We did one in the Keyhole, but it wasnt very supported
  375. [20:30] <@Ankou> Well, we might as well get to it asap.
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  377. [20:30] <Darkheart3> Because no one knew how to do it
  378. [20:30] <@Ankou> So. Decision on media and images?
  379. [20:30] <Chainoffire_> welcome back
  380. [20:30] <Darkheart3> Prject
  381. [20:31] <KRCCFNF> You are welcome.
  382. [20:31] <Keyblade0> WB LR
  383. [20:31] <Darkheart3> *Project
  384. [20:31] == ENX [4b1961f1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.25.97.241] has joined #KHWiki-noticeboard
  385. [20:31] <@Ankou> Ankou So. Decision on media and images?
  386. [20:31] <Keyblade0> WB Eternal.
  387. [20:31] <@Ankou> Chitalian. Somebody. Please respond.
  388. [20:31] == Chitalian [~chatzilla@cpe-24-90-28-165.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88 [Firefox 8.0/20111104165243]]
  389. [20:31] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> My renders are kept and applied where they are seen fit.
  390. [20:31] <@Ankou> Oh dear.....
  391. [20:31] * Ankou sighs
  392. [20:31] <Darkheart3> He'll be back
  393. [20:31] <Darkheart3> I hope
  394. [20:31] == Chitalian [~chatzilla@cpe-24-90-28-165.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #KHWiki-noticeboard
  395. [20:31] <@ErryK> Project for music, images will be handpicked for renders however all fanposed renders will be kept, any images that appear superior to the others will be replaced
  396. [20:31] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> Music collection is completed with our samples and a music project is created
  397. [20:31] <@Ankou> Phew.
  398. [20:31] <Chainoffire_> what dicision needs to be made?
  399. [20:32] <@Ankou> Thanks.
  400. [20:32] <Darkheart3> See. I have the power of foresight
  401. [20:32] <Chainoffire_> **decision
  402. [20:32] <@Ankou> Erry's said it.
  403. [20:32] * ENX would like to let everyone here know he is currently RE-TYPING his opinion on this whole matter on khwiki.net. He will post an update when he has said his piece.
  404. [20:32] <@Ankou> Alright.
  405. [20:32] <Darkheart3> NEXT TOPIC
  406. [20:32] <@ErryK> .gifs included (however most of ours are superior :P)
  407. [20:32] <Chitalian> Fusing policies.
  408. [20:32] <LegoAlchristmas> I hope it's in agreement.
  409. [20:32] <Chitalian> Ho, boy...
  410. [20:32] <LegoAlchristmas> But anyway.
  411. [20:32] <Darkheart3> Oh on...
  412. [20:32] <LegoAlchristmas> THe next topic?
  413. [20:32] <Darkheart3> *no
  414. [20:32] <Chitalian> FUSING POLICIES
  415. [20:32] <@Ankou> Fusing policies, go on.
  416. [20:33] <Chitalian> Well
  417. [20:33] <Keyblade0> FUSION........so what's the policy?
  418. [20:33] <Chitalian> obviously, we need to be less strict.
  419. [20:33] <LegoAlchristmas> I would appreciate it.
  420. [20:33] <LegoAlchristmas> if.
  421. [20:33] <LegoAlchristmas> .net would be.
  422. [20:33] <LegoAlchristmas> more relaxed on speculation.
  423. [20:33] <Keyblade0> Yes...?
  424. [20:33] <LegoAlchristmas> Please.
  425. [20:33] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> Chitalian talk from experience in both sites
  426. [20:33] <Chitalian> Such as?
  427. [20:33] <LegoAlchristmas> It's a little ridiculous on how tight our grip on it has been.
  428. [20:33] <Chitalian> Like, keeping the name "Hunter of the Dark"
  429. [20:33] <Chitalian> ?
  430. [20:33] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> He can tell the difference in policies between us
  431. [20:33] <LegoAlchristmas> Sure.
  432. [20:33] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> I'd like that
  433. [20:34] <@Ankou> I would agree to be a little less strict with Trivia, but not to make the Trivia sections full-blown, for example.
  434. [20:34] <Chitalian> Honestly, the policies aren't all that different. No speculation and all that.
  435. [20:34] <@Ankou> That was our original .net policy....
  436. [20:34] <@ErryK> I think if we are to keep the name we'd have to put our source as the music track.
  437. [20:34] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> We do
  438. [20:34] <LegoAlchristmas> I mean, there's a difference between blatantly making things up and making theories with support.
  439. [20:34] <@Ankou> Yes, but we must also know where to draw the line on those.
  440. [20:34] <@ErryK> And I'm sure someone remembers that Lock-On commotion? That's really ridiculous.
  441. [20:34] <@Ankou> I'm aware of what happened at one point...
  442. [20:34] <Chitalian> Basically, allow user talk edits TO A LIMIT
  443. [20:35] <@Ankou> Lots of people found things that they could use to 'support' their theories...
  444. [20:35] <LegoAlchristmas> that
  445. [20:35] <Sox|Simba> ...Chitalian, thats not a real thing
  446. [20:35] <@Ankou> Read in any context, anything can mean.... anything they want it to mean.
  447. [20:35] <LegoAlchristmas> That's not quite exactly what I meant.
  448. [20:35] <LegoAlchristmas> User talk is a completely different wing.
  449. [20:35] <@Ankou> ?
  450. [20:35] <@Ankou> It wasn't user talk.
  451. [20:35] <Chitalian> No, I'm talking about somehting different.
  452. [20:35] <LegoAlchristmas> Oh.
  453. [20:35] <@Ankou> It was actual Talkspace.
  454. [20:35] <Chitalian> Sorry, sorry, meant to press enter a while ago.
  455. [20:36] <Chitalian> But, yeah. Perhaps allow discussion of an article's topic on it's talk page?
  456. [20:36] <Chitalian> Rather than constantly undoing edits and directing people to forums?
  457. [20:36] <@ErryK> Yeah
  458. [20:36] <@Ankou> Still, the question reminds — where is the line to be drawn on speculation, and how thick is it?
  459. [20:36] <Sox|Simba> i agree, that always seemed dumb to me
  460. [20:36] <@Ankou> *remains
  461. [20:36] <@Ankou> (fail!)
  462. [20:37] <LegoAlchristmas> Well, wait.
  463. [20:37] <Chaser> as long as they have proof of some kind?
  464. [20:37] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> its speculation all the time. However, speculation with evidence, while not supported Nomura, has support
  465. [20:37] <LegoAlchristmas> Let's discuss the purpose of article talk pages.
  466. [20:37] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> Saying that the Unknown is Gilgamesh, however, is not allowed, of course
  467. [20:37] <Keyblade0> ._. Wait what?
  468. [20:37] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> It was an example of speculation without proof
  469. [20:38] <Darkheart3> And part of DE's obssession with Gilgamesh ._.
  470. [20:38] <@maggosh> Wait, now that you mention it...
  471. [20:38] <@Ankou> Sigh, guys. Topic.
  472. [20:38] <@Ankou> Please.
  473. [20:38] <Keyblade0> Yes.
  474. [20:38] <@maggosh> Yes, sorry.
  475. [20:38] <Keyblade0> ...um...
  476. [20:38] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> I was on topic, to be honest
  477. [20:38] <@Ankou> Yes.
  478. [20:38] <@Ankou> I know.
  479. [20:38] <Keyblade0> On unrelated news...
  480. [20:38] <Darkheart3> And I just couldn't resist
  481. [20:38] <@Ankou> LA, article talk pages.
  482. [20:38] <Keyblade0> KH3D's up for preordering on Gamestop and Amazon.
  483. [20:38] <Keyblade0> Ok, back to topic.
  484. [20:38] <Sox|Simba> off. topic.
  485. [20:38] <Sox|Simba> <<
  486. [20:39] <@Ankou> My first reaction would be to say that article talk pages would be to 1)
  487. [20:39] <@Ankou> talk about the functioning of the page, say if something's gone wrong somewhere.
  488. [20:39] <@Ankou> 2) Clarify bits of information or talk about things that actually happened in the game.
  489. [20:39] <Chitalian> Let people discuss the topics on the talk page, as long as it doesn't stray too far.
  490. [20:39] <@ErryK> Rather than discussion of the actual article itself like (do you think riku's cute?) I've heard that like a billion times
  491. [20:39] <LegoAlchristmas> Yes, Ankou.
  492. [20:39] <@Ankou> 3) Serve as a test template for small sections of a particular article (paragraphs), not pages.
  493. [20:40] <LegoAlchristmas> That is what should be permited on article talk pages.
  494. [20:40] <@Ankou> And 4) Speculation, this is where the question comes in —
  495. [20:40] <@Ankou> What is the line to be drawn?
  496. [20:40] <@Ankou> And how thick is it?
  497. [20:40] <LegoAlchristmas> Speculation and discussion on the subject should be kept to the forums.
  498. [20:40] <Keyblade0> ^
  499. [20:40] <Keyblade0> I agree.
  500. [20:40] <@Ankou> I agree too, because of past experience.
  501. [20:40] <LegoAlchristmas> Nothing is wrong with clarifying information, but stuff like, "THIS KEYBLADE IS SO COOL ZOMG" is just clutter.
  502. [20:40] <RoxasNobody> agreed
  503. [20:40] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> Agreed
  504. [20:40] <RoxasXIIILK> agreed
  505. [20:40] <Chitalian> Yep.
  506. [20:41] <Chaser> do people still used zomg?
  507. [20:41] <Darkheart3> Yep. Agreed
  508. [20:41] <Chaser> also yes
  509. [20:41] <@Ankou> If anyone wants to, say, handle a page overhaul, there is usually the Sandbox or userspace to modify it.
  510. [20:41] <Keyblade0> Yup.
  511. [20:41] <@Ankou> Unless we've done away with our general Sandbox, which I think we have.
  512. [20:41] <Darkheart3> Userpage drafts
  513. [20:41] <Sox|Simba> drafts of pages should always be in a userspace
  514. [20:41] <KRCCFNF> BRB
  515. [20:41] <Keyblade0> Ok.
  516. [20:41] <Sox|Simba> User:Potato/Drafts/name of article
  517. [20:41] <Sox|Simba> or /Lab
  518. [20:41] <Sox|Simba> or whatever
  519. [20:42] <@Ankou> That's fair.
  520. [20:42] <@ErryK> Such as www.khwiki.net/User:Erry/WalkthroughDirectory instead of www.khwiki.net/WalkthroughDirectory
  521. [20:42] <Keyblade0> Yeah....I guess so.
  522. [20:42] <@Ankou> Unless that Walkthrough Directory can be dealt with, and that'll be in a later topic.
  523. [20:42] <LegoAlchristmas> Eh.
  524. [20:42] <LegoAlchristmas> Wouldn't that get really messy though?
  525. [20:43] <@ErryK> How?
  526. [20:43] <LegoAlchristmas> Having drafts of articles... for every article?
  527. [20:43] <Sox|Simba> not every single one
  528. [20:43] <Sox|Simba> new ones, and overhauls
  529. [20:43] <@Ankou> Not really for every article...
  530. [20:43] <@Ankou> Those which need overhauls only.
  531. [20:43] <@ErryK> Yeah what Sox said.
  532. [20:43] <Sox|Simba> unless it's a cut-and-dry article, like an ability
  533. [20:43] <Sox|Simba> which is a pretty simple rehash
  534. [20:44] <@Ankou> Or if say, if a person has a part on his userspace dedicated to article rewrites, he may use the space for any article rewrite.
  535. [20:44] <@Ankou> It may not necessarily be page-specific.
  536. [20:44] <@ErryK> I'm leaving in 14 minutes guys, just saying.
  537. [20:44] <@Ankou> Alright.
  538. [20:44] <Keyblade0> Ok.
  539. [20:44] <@Ankou> I'm leaving in 15 minutes, myself.
  540. [20:44] <LegoAlchristmas> Shoot.
  541. [20:44] <@Ankou> I need to be up at 9.
  542. [20:44] <LegoAlchristmas> We need you guys.
  543. [20:44] <Keyblade0> Aww.
  544. [20:44] <Chitalian> I'm probably leaving soon.
  545. [20:45] <@Ankou> It's a quarter to 2.....
  546. [20:45] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> It seems we wont be able to cover everything today
  547. [20:45] <Keyblade0> THEN WE MUST FIISH THIS MEETING IN 14 MINUTES.
  548. [20:45] <Keyblade0> *Finish
  549. [20:45] <@Ankou> Well, at least we'll have reached some form of decision in three matters.
  550. [20:45] <Chainoffire_> dang
  551. [20:45] <@Ankou> So.
  552. [20:45] <Darkheart3> Verdict?
  553. [20:45] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> Yes. What have we agreed on this topic?
  554. [20:45] <Chitalian> Again, follow-up meetings are possible.
  555. [20:45] <Chainoffire_> verdict on what?
  556. [20:45] <@Ankou> One more thing to address:
  557. [20:45] <@ErryK> I knew we should've started the meeting way early at the APPOINTED time.
  558. [20:45] <@Ankou> Speculation.
  559. [20:45] <LegoAlchristmas> There's no way.
  560. [20:45] <@Ankou> Speculation on mainspace.
  561. [20:45] <Chitalian> Relaxing policies.
  562. [20:45] <LegoAlchristmas> We need to discuss this.
  563. [20:45] <@Ankou> How much do we allow it?
  564. [20:45] <@Ankou> Quick.
  565. [20:45] <Sox|Simba> 0 speculation in mainspace.
  566. [20:45] <LegoAlchristmas> We can't end this in 14 minutes.
  567. [20:45] <@Ankou> Now.
  568. [20:45] <Chitalian> Maybe a little speculation in Trivia.
  569. [20:45] <Chitalian> GUYS
  570. [20:46] <Sox|Simba> trivia, sure
  571. [20:46] <Keyblade0> Speculation on the forums.
  572. [20:46] <Sox|Simba> nothing outside of trivia should be speculation
  573. [20:46] <Chitalian> Trivia can allow REASONABLE SPECULATION
  574. [20:46] <Sox|Simba> not leads, not origins
  575. [20:46] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> ^
  576. [20:46] <Keyblade0> Just be sure there isn't a fan war in there.
  577. [20:46] <@Ankou> I agree with minimal speculation on trivia as long as it isn't full-blown like what happened.
  578. [20:46] <Keyblade0> :{
  579. [20:46] <Chitalian> That has ample evidence to back it up.
  580. [20:46] <Keyblade0> *:P
  581. [20:46] <@ErryK> What Sox and Chit said.
  582. [20:46] <Chainoffire_> trivia only
  583. [20:46] <Chitalian> And trivia should still be limited.
  584. [20:46] <Chitalian> Maybe 1 or 2 points of minor speculation.
  585. [20:46] <@ErryK> What other stuff do we have after this?
  586. [20:46] <KRCCFNF> back.
  587. [20:46] <LegoAlchristmas> I agree.
  588. [20:46] <Keyblade0> ....uh......why is trivia hated?
  589. [20:47] <Chitalian> Template and other general issues regarding coding
  590. [20:47] <Chaser> Template and other general issues regarding coding?
  591. [20:47] <Chitalian> Includes Main Page revamp
  592. [20:47] <Chitalian> Combining Forums
  593. [20:47] <Keyblade0> Not important?
  594. [20:47] <Chitalian> Walkthrough space
  595. [20:47] <LegoAlchristmas> It's hated because it's pointless.
  596. [20:47] <LegoAlchristmas> PMost of what is in trivia sections can be merged into the rest of the article.
  597. [20:47] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> most of the time
  598. [20:47] <@ErryK> Because if it doesn't fit in the article, it shouldn't be there in the first place.
  599. [20:47] <Chitalian> Combining Forums shouldn't take that long.
  600. [20:47] <Keyblade0> ^Yup. I hope so.
  601. [20:47] <Chitalian> Oh, we also need to talk about the Mirage Arena/Lanes Between.
  602. [20:47] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> Basically, what forums from us you want to keep, and what forum from you should we keep?
  603. [20:47] <Chitalian> That might count as a forum though.
  604. [20:48] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> I think the arena should be covered by the Arena owners
  605. [20:48] <Chitalian> Keep Heartless Manufactory
  606. [20:48] <Chitalian> Keep TWTNW/Where Nothing Gathers
  607. [20:48] <Chitalian> Betwixt and Between is a good idea
  608. [20:48] <RoxasXIIILK> The arena stuff can be handled between me and Erry
  609. [20:48] <@maggosh> What'd I miss?
  610. [20:48] <LegoAlchristmas> Let's discuss the most important things right now.
  611. [20:48] <Chitalian> We need to archive old forums
  612. [20:48] <LegoAlchristmas> Mirage arena... not so much.
  613. [20:49] <Darkheart3> Scrap The Beach I reckon
  614. [20:49] <Chitalian> Yep.
  615. [20:49] <Darkheart3> We've got Talk Pages for that
  616. [20:49] <@ErryK> Lanes Between should stay at wikia while Mirage Arena should stay on .net because if we have two arenas on one wiki it's kind of just... enforcing inactivness.
  617. [20:49] <@ErryK> inactiveness*
  618. [20:49] <Chitalian> Frankly, there's no point in talking about non-KH topics on a KH wiki.
  619. [20:49] <Chitalian> Unless it's on the IRC/user talk
  620. [20:49] <HikariKH> The IRC's for that, no?
  621. [20:49] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> Well, but we could port over some of the Lanes Between rules
  622. [20:49] <RoxasXIIILK> ^
  623. [20:49] <@ErryK> Sure rules are fine.
  624. [20:49] <Chitalian> Scrap the editcount, maybe
  625. [20:49] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> Exactly
  626. [20:49] <Sox|Simba> Chitalian: introductions, notifications of absense, comments to the wiki-goers about non-wiki-related stuff
  627. [20:50] <Chitalian> Introductions: User page
  628. [20:50] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> Like the Fall of A Legend forum of DTN leaving
  629. [20:50] <Chitalian> Notifications fo absence: User page
  630. [20:50] <HikariKH> DTN leaving got a forum?
  631. [20:50] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> Yes
  632. [20:50] <@Ankou> Guys.
  633. [20:50] <@Ankou> ENOUGH.
  634. [20:50] <Keyblade0> Yup.
  635. [20:50] <Chitalian> We're talking about forums >.>
  636. [20:50] <@ErryK> It got a thread, not a forum.
  637. [20:50] * Darkheart3 concludes the meeting over
  638. [20:50] <HikariKH> Understood
  639. [20:50] <Keyblade0> <_<
  640. [20:50] <@ErryK> A forum is a whole section, a thread is just one conversation in a forum.
  641. [20:50] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> but Im saying, that really does not belong in TWTNW
  642. [20:51] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> That kind of thread, I mean
  643. [20:51] <Keyblade0> Well....admin stuffs are usually over there.
  644. [20:51] <Chitalian> Which is why I'm all for having the Twilight Town/Hollow Bastion library become a "misc" forum.
  645. [20:51] <@ErryK> No.
  646. [20:51] <Sox|Simba> Chitalian, when i posted my leave on my userpage, i was still being asked where i was a week later
  647. [20:51] <@ErryK> The Library is there for KH-speak.
  648. [20:51] <@ErryK> If we're going to have a new section, it WILL be the misc section.
  649. [20:52] <Chitalian> ._. Well, maybe putting it on your talk page would be good, too. But then again, people can be remarkably inattentive.
  650. [20:52] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> The Beach
  651. [20:52] <@Ankou> We can't have it our "misc." forum because the Library HAS been and still will be our KH-speak forum.
  652. [20:52] <KRCCFNF> I'm very late here, but I think the Lanes Between should stay, as a "Personal Arena", seeing as we have those.
  653. [20:52] <Chitalian> If you guys want it, fine. But I'm just not for the Beach when there's better alternatives.
  654. [20:52] <KRCCFNF> Unless they disappeared while I was away.
  655. [20:53] <@ErryK> We have those but what's the use of it being moved over?
  656. [20:53] <Chitalian> Okay, the difference between Seat of War and HB library is?
  657. [20:53] <@ErryK> It'll just make the wikia wiki not have an arena.
  658. [20:54] <KRCCFNF> ...so?
  659. [20:54] <Sox|Simba> seat of war is for non-canon stuff, like, "i think kh 3 is going to be __________"
  660. [20:54] <KRCCFNF> It's going to change.
  661. [20:54] <RoxasXIIILK> We just need to carry over some rules/policies of the LB to the MA
  662. [20:54] <LegoAlchristmas> Wikia-wikians?
  663. [20:54] <Sox|Simba> hollow bastion is more like, "what is the difference between ventus and vantias"
  664. [20:54] <@Ankou> Which is very reminiscent to TTL.
  665. [20:54] <LegoAlchristmas> Could you please elaborate on the meaning of all of your forums?
  666. [20:54] <HikariKH> That's be nice
  667. [20:54] <HikariKH> *That'd
  668. [20:54] <Chaser> http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Index
  669. [20:54] <Sox|Simba> okay...
  670. [20:54] <Chitalian> Seat of War seems superfluous to me.
  671. [20:54] <LegoAlchristmas> We can go through them and decide what we REALLY need here.
  672. [20:55] <Sox|Simba> WNG: all wiki-related issues, policies, etc
  673. [20:55] <LegoAlchristmas> Some of the stuff can stay on the fansite, honestly.
  674. [20:55] <Sox|Simba> cornerstone hill: game help
  675. [20:55] <Sox|Simba> seat of war: non-canon stuff (stuff that doesnt exist in the series)
  676. [20:55] <Sox|Simba> hollow bastion library: all KH stuff not listed above (canon stuff + questions mostly)
  677. [20:55] <Sox|Simba> beach = misc
  678. [20:55] <Sox|Simba> and betwixt: archived old forums
  679. [20:55] <LegoAlchristmas> Okay.
  680. [20:56] <KRCCFNF> Cornerstone Hill should be kept.
  681. [20:56] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> Yes
  682. [20:56] <KRCCFNF> It's a genuinly good idea.
  683. [20:56] <LegoAlchristmas> Honestly, Beach, Seat of war, even cornerstone hill all seem redundant to me.
  684. [20:56] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> We are an encyclopedia about a game, after all
  685. [20:56] <LegoAlchristmas> THey can be left at the fansite.
  686. [20:56] <@ErryK> I agree with cornerstone hill.
  687. [20:56] <@Ankou> Seat of War = Keyblade Graveyard article.
  688. [20:56] <@ErryK> However it does not become a forum.
  689. [20:56] <@Ankou> (Wait. Are you talking about the forums.)
  690. [20:56] <@ErryK> It becomes a page.
  691. [20:56] <@Ankou> (Fail.)
  692. [20:57] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> A page?
  693. [20:57] <@ErryK> Yes.
  694. [20:57] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> how so?
  695. [20:57] <@ErryK> And with the talk page being used for questions and stuff.
  696. [20:57] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> Oh. Kinda like a FAQ?
  697. [20:57] <@ErryK> Sort of.
  698. [20:57] <@ErryK> Like the page will include various tips, hints, etc and any questions go into the talk page.
  699. [20:58] <@ErryK> Then once the talk page gets full, it's archived and new questions and so on.
  700. [20:58] <Keyblade0> I like that idea.
  701. [20:58] <HikariKH> I like it too
  702. [20:58] <@Ankou> I second it.
  703. [20:58] <RoxasNobody> sounds good
  704. [20:58] <RoxasXIIILK> ^
  705. [20:58] <Chainoffire_> what the difference between that and walkthroughs?
  706. [20:58] <LegoAlchristmas> That.
  707. [20:58] <@Ankou> Walkthroughs DOCUMENT progress through a game.
  708. [20:59] <@Ankou> Forums don't.
  709. [20:59] <Keyblade0> ^^^
  710. [20:59] <Dark-EnigmaXIII> This is for specific concerns
  711. [20:59] <@Ankou> I thought that was obvious, Chain. >_>
  712. [20:59] <@ErryK> Let's say we give ONE strategy that is optimum in all ways for the person writing the guide.
  713. [20:59] <@ErryK> However it doesn't work for one member.
  714. [20:59] <@ErryK> He goes there, asks the question and people reply with different, various strategies.
  715. [21:00] <Chainoffire_> thank you erry
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