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  151. I just drove my Tesla model 3 from Denver to Long Island (self.cars)
  152.  
  153. Submitted 10 hours ago * by Creativeusername833Tesla P3D-, Jeep Gladiator
  154.  
  155. My wedding is on Saturday. We have been together a long, long time and finally are tying the knot. We wanted to bring our Great Pyrenees and Husky, but can’t really fly with them, so we decided to drive.
  156.  
  157. So we finally arrived in NY. took a bit over 40 hours, roughly 10 or 12 supercharger stops.
  158.  
  159. Would I do it again in an electric car? That’s a big maybe.
  160.  
  161. It was between 30-40 degrees out most of the trip, we averaged about 350KWH of consumption vs the rated 250, so we had to stop every 120-150 miles to ensure we had enough power to keep going. Car is rated at 310 miles but we didn’t want to risk running out of power. We typically charged to 50-60% and got down to 10% roughly. You charge quicker at lower levels so we stopped for 10-15 minutes a bunch of times, got out, walked, let the dogs do their thing and what not.
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  163. Autopilot is life changing. It made the trip significantly safer and easier. I barely physically drove at all.
  164.  
  165. Would I drive 1700 miles again in the Tesla? Probably not.
  166.  
  167. Would I do a 1000 mile road trip with it? Absolutely.
  168.  
  169. The Tesla charging definitely was more inconvenient than anticipated, but the comfort, speed, and autopilot made it a joy.
  170.  
  171. All in all, love the car, just wish I could go an honest 200 miles with 2 people, 2 dogs, luggage, and gear at 80mph with less worry.
  172.  
  173. Some pics of the trip! [pics from the road trip]https://imgur.com/a/Sz8Qvjy/
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  175. At 5300 miles on the car now. 7k by the time we get back. I calculated it and by 200,000 miles, the car will essentially have paid for itself versus buying gasoline in my last daily (Landcruiser) or any German sports saloon that is close to as fast, like a M3, C63, S4 and similar, ignoring maintenance costs on the German cars too.
  176.  
  177. I’ll continue to use the Tesla for <500 mile trips, but longer than that and I’ll fly or drive my jeep most likely
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  186. [–]zillafreak 76 points 10 hours ago
  187. So you would charge the Tesla for 10-15 minutes to get 50-60%, then drive another 1.5-2hrs to get 120-150 miles?
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  189. Honestly, with dogs, this might have been a good thing. Even for you, getting out, walking around, letting the dogs out is better.
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  191. Why do you think you were using 350kwh vs the rated 250? Was the 250 rated at 80mph? I can see the extra person, 2 dogs and luggage (assuming this is another 400-450lbs) would increase usage.
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  193. How much longer charge time would it take to get to 70-80% battery. Figure that 50% = 120 and 60% = 150 miles, 80% should get 190-200 miles.
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  197. The autopilot to me would make the drive a lot better. Able to look around and enjoy the scenery. I know the drive out that way can get boring when you have to pay attention to the couple cars on the road.
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  201. [–]engineerbro222018 Model 3, 2016 Mustang 32 points 9 hours ago
  202. The charge profile tapers above about 50% charge, so every % after about 50 takes longer than one before about 50%. Each % between 60 and 70 takes less time than each % between 70 and 80, etc.
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  204. Stopping twice to go 10->50 takes less time than stopping once to go 10->90.
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  208. [–]zillafreak 12 points 9 hours ago
  209. Thanks for the info, been looking at a new vehicle and the model 3 is on the list.
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  213. [–]Creativeusername833Tesla P3D-, Jeep Gladiator[S] 17 points 8 hours ago
  214. Go drive one. It’s seriously life changing and the best daily on the market today
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  218. [–]bluecifer7'14 2dr JK Wrangler 4 points 5 hours ago
  219. Was going to comment on your point about rather taking a jeep for greater than 500 mile trips but now I see you have a JL. I don't think I could withstand the wind noise for 1000miles in my JK
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  223. [–]iller_mitch 1 point 3 hours ago
  224. Had a TJ up until a few months back. Long road-trips were soul-sucking.
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  228. [–]Creativeusername833Tesla P3D-, Jeep Gladiator[S] 1 point 2 hours ago
  229. Drove my JKU to California. Sold the JKU for a Lexus maybe 3 months later 😂
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  233. [–]Lhankor_MhyC8 Corvette (eventually), I4 sedan (currently) 5 points 1 hour ago
  234. No
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  236. I'd rather not support a lying cokehead charlatan
  237.  
  238. I'll get an EV from a competent carmaker
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  242. [–]Shadow7037932017 Mustang Ecoboost with more BOOST 2 points 39 minutes ago
  243. the best daily on the market today
  244.  
  245. Laos. Not it's not.
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  249. [–]Ataraxy72 26 points 9 hours ago
  250. The 350 KWH rating is probably from running the heater and or heated seats... The biggest drawback of EV i've seen so far is that something we are used to in an ICE car of heat being a byproduct of an inefficient system but costs a lot of energy to produce otherwise. That as well as the 250 kwh rated is also probably at the most efficient speed which is probably lower than the posted speed limits in some of the states they drove through.
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  254. [–]phasedweasel2018 Model 3 | 2013 Leaf 16 points 9 hours ago
  255. Tesla really needs to add a heatpump like the Nissan Leaf or the Audi e-tron. They initially did not because they have a huge battery, but it's still a major factor in winter roadtrips. Heatpumps consume something like 3X less energy than just resistive heating.
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  259. [–]Creativeusername833Tesla P3D-, Jeep Gladiator[S] 10 points 8 hours ago
  260. One thing that helps is to use heat during supercharging to keep the cabin cozy
  261.  
  262. I never had range anxiety though. Anytime I felt a little low I just went to a closer supercharger. Never came close to running out
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  266. [–]phasedweasel2018 Model 3 | 2013 Leaf 2 points 7 hours ago
  267. Oh I don't get range anxiety and love road tripping the 3, I'm a big advocate, but a heatpump could certainly go a long way to reducing the winter, or even just "cool" weather penalty.
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  271. [–]zombienudist 2 points 5 hours ago
  272. I see you have a leaf. Does it have a heat pump? Mine did and the efficiency of my Leaf and Model 3 was roughly the same. The leaf is less efficient then the Model 3 so maybe the heat pump made up the loss. So I wonder how much of a difference a heat pump would actually make. I am in Canada too so I will see temps below when a heat pump really doesn't work well. So in places that get a little cool but not super cold a heat pump may be more of a benefit.
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  276. [–]phasedweasel2018 Model 3 | 2013 Leaf 1 point 2 hours ago
  277. There's a cool temperature dependent curve estimating that from about 25 to 55 the heat pump increases efficiency about 10%
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  281. [–]thatnguy1967 Mercury Cougar XR7; 1998 Ford Explorer 5.0 8 points 8 hours ago
  282. Heatpumps work well in mildly cold conditions, but they don't work well below 25-30°F, and lose their efficiency.
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  286. [–]Alebringer 6 points 2 hours ago*
  287. Depends on the heat pump. A CTC heat pump, designed for Scandinavian climates works well down to -20C (-4F). And it have a COP above 4.
  288.  
  289. I have one for my house :).
  290.  
  291. Edit: COP of 4 means, 1kw in and 4kw out in heat.
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  295. [–]socsa 4 points 6 hours ago
  296. They are still 1.5-3x times more efficient than resistive heaters down to around -20F using modern refrigerants and multi-stage scroll compressors. The issue becomes that they lose their total heating volume at lower temperatures, even though they maintain efficiency. So they are still producing heat at a COP > 1.0, but that heat is not enough to raise the temperature of the air by the necessary amount. Really, the best option then is to run the heat pump at 100% duty cycle, and use a second heating source to "prime" the heat exchanger as necessary.
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  300. [–]phasedweasel2018 Model 3 | 2013 Leaf 2 points 7 hours ago
  301. While true, a LOT of driving occurs at 25-55 where you're running the heat.
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  303. AC is often fighting a fairly small temp gradient (cooling 95 to 75), and heating even in 45 degree weather is a 50-60% larger gradient (65 to 75) cabin heat. Temperature loss runs as an exponent of the temperature gradient, and at say 35 degrees it's already costing 3-4X the energy to heat even with a heatpump, and another factor of 3-4X on top of that for moving from a heatpump-based system to resistive heating.
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  305. There's a LOT of efficiency to be gained here from relatively little complexity and weight added.
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  312. [–]Alabatman 3 points 4 hours ago
  313. In the deep South, 41 is time to check on your elderly neighbors territory of the thermometer. My better half is from up your way and never gets cold. I'm of the type that lays on a hot rock in the deep summer sun. All things are relative.
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  322. [–]verdegrrlAxles of Evil - German & Italian junk[M] 1 point 59 minutes ago
  323. You and /u/zombienudist - please stop bickering.
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  327. [–]PillsburyDoughNegro 1 point 41 minutes ago
  328. Why?
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  332. [–]verdegrrlAxles of Evil - German & Italian junk 1 point 36 minutes ago
  333. Calling each other names gets neither of you anywhere. And when folks see incivility, they are less likely to participate.
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  337. [–]Head_Crash -1 points 4 hours ago
  338. Another option could be an oil based heater. Could run one with biodiesel or cooking oil. A gallon gives about 16 hours of heat output.
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  342. [–]iller_mitch 2 points 3 hours ago
  343. Oh yeah! A fucking chinese diesel heater! We put those on our conversion vans.
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  347. [–]grandchien 7 points 9 hours ago
  348. Yeah, the heat created through inefficiency can come in handy sometimes. Years ago my city switched the stoplights over to led bulbs because they used less power and had to be replaced less frequently which saved on labor. Everything was great until winter when snow collected on them making it impossible to tell what color the light was. The higher efficiency bulbs didn’t create enough heat to melt the snow, which you’d think somebody would’ve planned for, but they didn’t.
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  352. [–]kuuttis 2 points 6 hours ago
  353. Funny you should bring that up. "...But sometimes!"
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  357. [–]socsa 3 points 6 hours ago
  358. It still should not get that high unless OP is also running with the windows open, or is getting into the throttle. Even with a total elevation change of 1000' I am showing 266 wh/mi on a recent trip at 40F with an average speed of 68mph.
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  362. [–]zombienudist 3 points 5 hours ago
  363. It is probably speed/headwind that was more of a factor. At those temps the heater will probably only draw about 1-1.5 kWs to maintain cabin temp. So over 3 hours you would be looking at a additional 3-4.5 kWhs of power used which will make an impact but not 100 Whs more per mile. This chart here has teh Model 3 performance losing almost 50 miles of range going from 70-80 MPH. If you are driving into a headwind that will also pump up energy use.
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  365. https://teslike.com/range/
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  369. [–]BS_Is_AnnoyingModel 3 SR+ 2 points 6 hours ago
  370. The 350 KWH rating is probably from running the heater and or heated seats...
  371.  
  372. It's driving 80 mph not the heated seats.
  373.  
  374. If the heater used 2 kWh on average, at 80 mph and 2 hours, that's only 25 wh/mile.
  375.  
  376. Headwinds and tailwinds make a huge difference on range. But you can always just drive slower (if it's close) and it saves A LOT of energy.
  377.  
  378. This site has a handy calculator, which I've found to be pretty accurate.
  379.  
  380. http://bikecalculator.com/tesla/
  381.  
  382. The upside is that it all really doesn't make that huge of a difference in time to travel. I spent a whole day with 20 mph headwinds and 650 miles took me around 13 hours with lunch. If I did that in a gas car, it would have taken me about 11 hours with lunch and fuel stops in a gas car. Sure, I can cannonball it and do it in 9, but I'll pay for that too in terms of exhaustion and misery.
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  386. [–]LarryGergich 5 points 7 hours ago
  387. The rated wh/mile is at around 65. At 75-80 I average around 300 wh/mile with the same AWD LR Perf that OP has. And thats on flat highways in Florida. If youre running heat it would be even higher for sure.
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  391. [–]skyspydude1 1 point 27 minutes ago
  392. Why do you think you were using 350kwh vs the rated 250? Was the 250 rated at 80mph? I can see the extra person, 2 dogs and luggage (assuming this is another 400-450lbs) would increase usage.
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  394. Colder, denser air to push through, and cabin/battery heating. The Model 3 doesn't have a heat pump, and resistive heaters are crazy inefficient compared to a good heat pump.
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  398. [–]heydude1473 1 point 9 hours ago
  399. Cold weather, heavy load and higher speeds all contribute.
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  401. Charging to 70-80% from 50-60% probably adds another ten or fifteen minutes. Fastest way to charge is from 10-60% as he did, because after 60% the charge taper drops off significantly.
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  405. [–]Lhankor_MhyC8 Corvette (eventually), I4 sedan (currently) 0 points 1 hour ago
  406. You have to keep your hands in the wheel
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  408. My Honda has capabilities 90% as good as autopilot
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  412. [–]Furmentor2018 VW Atlas SEL Prem, 2014 Fusion Energi 14 points 9 hours ago
  413. As a fellow Husky owner, given how long you were in that car, I can't believe you didn't have a snowstorm of hair blowing through the car.
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  417. [–]Creativeusername833Tesla P3D-, Jeep Gladiator[S] 12 points 9 hours ago
  418. Oh my god, my car is going to be trashed by the time we get back next week. And we even got them both groomed this week!
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  422. [–]Furmentor2018 VW Atlas SEL Prem, 2014 Fusion Energi 17 points 9 hours ago
  423. For the non-husky inlcined. We can do this every two weeks https://imgur.com/KWjKAUB
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  427. [–]Dayn_Perrys_Vape 12 points 8 hours ago
  428. He doesn't look not proud
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  432. [–]Throwaway_Consoles08 WRX MT/99 Insight MT 4 points 6 hours ago
  433. Pyrenees are the same way. My mom will start vacuuming up the hair and by the time she finishes the 2nd room, the first one is covered in hair again. It never stops.
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  435. Dog tax
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  439. [–]Creativeusername833Tesla P3D-, Jeep Gladiator[S] 2 points 6 hours ago
  440. Aw man pyrs are the sweetest. As you can guess I’ve given up on a dog hair free lifestyle
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  444. [–]iller_mitch 1 point 3 hours ago
  445. We had a german shepherd for a long time. Great boy. But MAN, he shed like hell. It was a continual source of misery.
  446.  
  447. My wife hates that we bought a labradoodle from a breeder. But I love how he doesn't shed.
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  451. [–]avboden'19 S60 T6 AWD 0 points 8 hours ago
  452. That's like the amount of hair from mine's neck alone....but then again we do have 140+pound Leonbergers
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  456. [–]Furmentor2018 VW Atlas SEL Prem, 2014 Fusion Energi 2 points 8 hours ago
  457. Gawd, thats a big dog. Never heard of them before, but they have to be a handful with the hair.
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  461. [–]avboden'19 S60 T6 AWD 4 points 8 hours ago
  462. There's an ongoing joke with Leos that when you own one, you actually own two, because everytime you brush you've got enough spare hair for an entirely new dog
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  466. [–]gropingpriestMK7 GTI, C6 Corvette, 4th gen 4Runner 11 points 8 hours ago
  467. Did you sell your C5Z and your S2K to buy a Tesla? I'm heartbroken
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  471. [–]Creativeusername833Tesla P3D-, Jeep Gladiator[S] 14 points 8 hours ago
  472. Since selling the C5Z and S2K I’ve had like 10 or more cars I’ve been through.
  473.  
  474. Lx470, focus st, cayenne turbo, miata with a turbo added, C6Z, C6, and many others haha. The C5Z is long gone.
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  476. I think I have a problem miss these things though
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  480. [–]that-freakin-guy'06 S2000 Johnny Tran Special | Porsche Fanboy 1 point 2 hours ago
  481. I can't even dream about selling my S2K. What the hell can I even replace it with that will be just as reliable and fun to drive?
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  485. [–]Creativeusername833Tesla P3D-, Jeep Gladiator[S] 1 point 2 hours ago
  486. Not much beats an S2K. I will get another.
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  488. Some options include Z06, ND Miata, ND RF miata, Cayman of any year, boxster (the newer the better usually), FRS maybe
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  490. But really the S2K is peak sports car. Mine was an 06. Had 190k miles on it. Gave me 3 months of pure pleasure and zero problems except it leaked a quart of oil a month. Was a one owner car til he passed away. I saw the ad and bought it within an hour.
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  494. [–]that-freakin-guy'06 S2000 Johnny Tran Special | Porsche Fanboy 2 points 2 hours ago
  495. Mine has 104k on it. One owner car with full service history. Bought it with 93k on it. It's incredible. I have the OEM hard top and love the hell out of it. Black with red/black interior. The ONLY thing I hate about this car is the color. Black is a headache to own. I think I'll vinyl wrap it white at one point in the near future, or just have it painted since the clear coat is fading in certain spots (thank you Honda, very cool!).
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  499. [–]rootusrootusTesla P3D+, 6G Camaro SS 1LE, EB F150 Screw -1 points 4 hours ago
  500. LMAO, you sound like a car spaz like me. And probably half of everyone else on here I imagine. I barely get into a new car before my mind starts wondering what I'll get next.
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  504. [–]ZendriftaDamage Appraiser - Careless drivers are my job security. 8 points 7 hours ago
  505. I did a couple-thousand mile trip from Cincinnati to northern Maine and back in a model 3 LR in September and found that my range was functionally limited as much by actual Supercharger locations as it was by the car itself. Same 310 range but more like 225 given that I wasn't charging above 80% and didn't let the bottom margin get too low, and I had to stop where the chargers were rather than where I started getting uncomfortable with my reserve.
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  507. It reminded me of driving up the Alaska Highway in an ICE car years ago in winter. You have a little under a half-tank of gas but the next gas station is ~150 miles... so do you stop now and have a comfortable margin? Or just run it down under an eighth of a tank by the time you're supposed to get there?
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  509. Seems like a problem that will go away with a more fleshed-out charging network.
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  511. 3 hours of driving is about right between piss/food stops though. 800 mile return trip clocked in at about 90 minutes longer than average with the charging stops.
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  515. [–]Creativeusername833Tesla P3D-, Jeep Gladiator[S] 4 points 7 hours ago
  516. You’re completely right about that. In Pennsylvania for example I had enough to arrive at the next stop with 6%, or I could stop at the closer one with 30%. I usually did the extra stop. I don’t want to run out of battery in the middle of nowhere.
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  518. Driving to Alaska is a good comparison in terms charging density. Gotta be cognizant of your surroundings.
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  522. [–]trevize1138'18 Tesla Model 3 / '72 Karmann Ghia 1 point 6 hours ago
  523. I got the MR because that's how the negotiations with my wife worked out but I'm fine with a 260 mile range Tesla because the charging network is being built out so fast. Over the last year a lot more Superchargers have been added in my area (southern MN) and road tripping just gets better and better. I think we need at least 2x higher frequency of locations on interstates to make road tripping better because right now it's rare that you can depend on always being able to charge up just from 10-50%. A lot of time is wasted charging all the way up to 80 or 90 just because of non-ideal charger spacing.
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  527. [–]ZendriftaDamage Appraiser - Careless drivers are my job security. 2 points 5 hours ago
  528. More would be better, but even as an aficionado of long trans-continental road trips there's enough now for me not to bother with buying another ICE again. The convenience in the local DD use outweighs any long road-trip hassles.
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  532. [–]trevize1138'18 Tesla Model 3 / '72 Karmann Ghia 0 points 5 hours ago
  533. Totally agreed. The ability to save a little time on the rare long-distance trip doesn't even come close to outweighing the huge benefit of being charged up from my garage every morning. I drive 130 miles a day for my commute and that used to mean stopping for gas 2-3x a week. That's now 0x a week. Extra Superchargers and faster charging times are just gravy at this point.
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  537. [–]lostshootinstar997.2 GT3, 997.1 Turbo, F430, Cayenne GTS 6MT 7 points 9 hours ago
  538. Very interesting!
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  540. Did you notice any fatigue using auto pilot for that long? By that I mean, because you weren't actively engaged with driving, did you feel more tired and maybe paying attention less?
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  542. That's always my fear with these semi autonomous systems.
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  544. The dogs are adorable, by the way. I drove from Massachusetts to Florida with my Husky, she loved every second of it.
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  548. [–]Creativeusername833Tesla P3D-, Jeep Gladiator[S] 13 points 9 hours ago
  549. I found I paid closer attention to dangerous situations and things that could have hurt us.
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  551. With autopilot you don’t worry about using Brain power to maintain speed or lane position so you can focus 100% of your focus on staying safe.
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  553. Autopilot eliminated a ton of stress and saved us a few times after a long long drive when we started getting tired. It is life changing.
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  555. Pics of your husky? I love the pups so much, they had to be at our wedding!
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  559. [–]lostshootinstar997.2 GT3, 997.1 Turbo, F430, Cayenne GTS 6MT 7 points 9 hours ago
  560. Who could pass up a request for dog photos!
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  562. This is Enzo (dark) and Jayna (blond). Jayna has since passed but she was 17 and had one hell of a life:
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  568. [–]Creativeusername833Tesla P3D-, Jeep Gladiator[S] 2 points 9 hours ago
  569. Oh man I’m so sorry about Jayna but man, 17 awesome years, i bet she had a wonderful life.
  570. Enzo is adorable too❤️
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  574. [–]avboden'19 S60 T6 AWD 8 points 8 hours ago
  575. It's honestly the opposite, at least for me with pilot assist in my Volvo I feel far less fatigued while driving and actually more aware of what's going on around me. 1.5hour highway drives that used to piss me off by the end are a downright breeze now with it. I will never own a car without it again.
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  579. [–]lostshootinstar997.2 GT3, 997.1 Turbo, F430, Cayenne GTS 6MT 3 points 8 hours ago
  580. Interesting! I've not yet had the opportunity to try one of these systems. Good to know.
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  584. [–]Throwaway_Consoles08 WRX MT/99 Insight MT 4 points 6 hours ago
  585. I recently had a rental Hyundai Tuscon with their lane keeping stuff and it was pretty fucking great for road trips. Normally after 10 hours we have to switch drivers because I start to feel fatigued but I was able to do the entire 1,400 miles and still felt really good.
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  587. It doesn’t drive for you, it just kind of assists you. So if you leave your hands off the wheel it will take slight curves but mostly just keep you centered in your lane. But if your hands are on the wheel it can take highway cloverleafs no problem. You start the turn and then it just kinda takes over from there.
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  591. [–]MuffinRacingToo many Civics, but a Cayenne ain't one 26 points 9 hours ago
  592. I drove my yellow CRX 1,800 miles in March for a track day. No autopilot. AMA
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  596. [–]Creativeusername833Tesla P3D-, Jeep Gladiator[S] 55 points 9 hours ago
  597. How do you drive a car with three pedals when you only have two feet??
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  601. [–]MuffinRacingToo many Civics, but a Cayenne ain't one 37 points 9 hours ago
  602. If you angle your feet correctly, you can hit all three at once. It takes a screenshot if you do
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  606. [–]avboden'19 S60 T6 AWD 16 points 8 hours ago
  607. typical, Granny shifting, not double-clutching like you should
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  611. [–]JamesVanDaFreek[🍰] 7 points 7 hours ago
  612. He's lucky that 100-shot of NOS didn't blow the welds on the intake.
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  617. Three pedals? As far as I’m aware the crx has two
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  619. Accelerator on right, clutch on left and a foot rest in the middle?
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  623. [–]MuffinRacingToo many Civics, but a Cayenne ain't one 5 points 8 hours ago
  624. No no, you got that wrong. The one on the right is the foot rest. Brakes are for quitters
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  628. [–]alpinpoodle997 C2S, MB E350, BRZ, R56 MCS, E30 325is 8 points 8 hours ago
  629. Cool story, thx for sharing. I’ll definitely be sticking with my ICE cars for interstate drives but I wouldn’t mind an EV for a city car. Looking at the MINI Cooper EV as a possibility... don’t care about lower range if it never leaves the city.
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  633. [–]Creativeusername833Tesla P3D-, Jeep Gladiator[S] 7 points 8 hours ago
  634. For short trips electric makes so much sense. It’s a little less amazing for road trips but still nice imo.
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  636. The instant torque is what sold me. I live in Colorado so every ICE car is slow as hell. My Tesla only gets faster at altitude lol
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  640. [–]alpinpoodle997 C2S, MB E350, BRZ, R56 MCS, E30 325is 2 points 8 hours ago
  641. Makes sense. Colorado here too.. When I drive down to sea level states in the 911 I feel like I gained 100 hp!
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  645. [–]Creativeusername833Tesla P3D-, Jeep Gladiator[S] 3 points 7 hours ago
  646. My damn C6Z06 ran a best of 13.1@114 at bandimere.
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  648. My little red golf cart does 11.6@116 all day long 😂
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  652. [–]alpinpoodle997 C2S, MB E350, BRZ, R56 MCS, E30 325is 5 points 6 hours ago
  653. But that Z06 sound though! One merged next to me on I-25 yesterday and it was a legit symphony!
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  657. [–]Creativeusername833Tesla P3D-, Jeep Gladiator[S] 3 points 6 hours ago
  658. True dream car. Mine was stock with an exhaust. Loud as hell and plenty quick. Loved driving it but I realized with maintenance and fuel costs I could upgrade to a Tesla. So I did
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  660. Bet my neighbors are happier tho, no more window rattling wake ups lol
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  664. [–]alpinpoodle997 C2S, MB E350, BRZ, R56 MCS, E30 325is 3 points 6 hours ago
  665. I know the feeling lol. I could pay for a TM3 with what I spend on tires, oil, gas and maintenance on the 911 (put 30k/yr on it) but I just can’t ever bear to part with it. I will probably just augment with MINI EV or something cheap for city trips. Love those Z06 though, amazing!
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  669. [–]Creativeusername833Tesla P3D-, Jeep Gladiator[S] 1 point 6 hours ago
  670. You can be like that guy with the 75ish 911 with a million KM on it.
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  672. 911 are amazing, incredible cars. Arguably the best daily for Colorado with a roof rack and awd. One of those cars I’d love to have one day.
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  674. 30k a year on a 911 is impressive. Keep up the good work haha. I’m sure we know some of the same people. I have a few 911 buddies
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  678. [–]ShloppinsMazdaspeed 3 2 points 6 hours ago
  679. Hey that guy is local to me. He'll talk to just about anyone who approaches him for hours. So kind.
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  684. Faster now with the update for sure. Wish Bandimere was open.
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  689. I have a 6.6L Duramax that is my I-70 rig. It will happily outpace anything on the road with plenty to spare and a 440 mile tank.
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  693. [–]Creativeusername833Tesla P3D-, Jeep Gladiator[S] 0 points 2 hours ago
  694. Can’t beat diesel for high altitude. I just don’t have the need for a diesel truck but That’s a great rig for sure
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  698. [–]hbs20182019 Volvo XC40 4 points 7 hours ago
  699. I can plus one on autopilot systems being amazing (Volvo system is similar but different), just having to keep your hand on the wheel makes long drive so so so much easier. I do 12+ hour one way trips in a day every few months and I don't feel dead at the end of it.
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  703. [–]Creativeusername833Tesla P3D-, Jeep Gladiator[S] 2 points 7 hours ago
  704. Truly one of those things I’ve been waiting for. Look I love driving. I routinely go for a blast up a canyon road or something, love autocross and have owned miatas, corvettes, a Porsche or two, all sorts of fun cars
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  706. Road trips with autopilot are refreshing and relaxing. Oddly enough I couldn’t convince my fiancée to use it. She just wanted to be in full control the whole time. Oh well she drove safely.
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  708. I will never not daily a car with autopilot again. Truly the reason I shelled out so much $ for this car.
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  712. [–]hbs20182019 Volvo XC40 2 points 7 hours ago
  713. I will never not daily a car with autopilot again.
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  715. I share this so much. The rest of my family hates the system on my car for the same control reasons but I love it so much. Driving is fun but just regular driving with a good active lane keep/acc system is incredible.
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  719. [–]InsertBluescreenHere 32 points 10 hours ago
  720. yesh every 120-150 miles having to stop and charge would drive me up a wall...
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  724. [–]Throwaway_Consoles08 WRX MT/99 Insight MT 7 points 6 hours ago
  725. When I do long road trips I set the cruise control at 79, turn on lane keep assist and radar cruise control, and I’m good to refuel every 400 miles or 5 hours. As long as you’re holding on to the wheel and paying attention, the car takes care of the rest.
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  727. It’s great that he got to let the dogs out and stretch every 2 hours but I personally would feel like as soon as we start driving we have to stop again.
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  731. [–]trdor 19 points 8 hours ago
  732. A break every 2 hours? Sounds perfect.
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  736. [–]Khal_Drogo'79 CJ7, E46 M3, '14 Ram 1500, '19 Pilot 21 points 7 hours ago
  737. Unless you prefer driving 6 or more hours between breaks like I and many other do. I like to get on the road, set the cruise, put on an audio book and not stop for hours.
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  742. I gotta say, more power to you, but driving 6 hours without stopping sounds miserable. I drove 4ish hours each way to visit my GF for a few months when we were long distance. 4 was the absolute max I could do without stopping. I've done 10ish hours during a cross-country road trip, but that was with breaks to stretch every 2-3 hours and those were absolutely mandatory unless i wanted my whole body to feel like shit.
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  746. [–]terraphantmE46 M3 1 point 2 hours ago
  747. Yeah I used to do that as a teenager, but now it’s just exhausting. A break every 2-3 hours is perfect IMO
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  752. On a typical 6 hour drive, if you are staying around 70 and not doing a ton of passing, you should only have to stop once with an LR model 3. I've done it a bunch of times - you have around 3-4 hours of comfortable highway range before you really need to charge. It's really not that different from road tripping with an ICE until you get past 8-10 hours.
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  756. [–]Khal_Drogo'79 CJ7, E46 M3, '14 Ram 1500, '19 Pilot 3 points 6 hours ago
  757. How much does that change if you want to drive 80-85? Which are pretty normal interstate speeds here in the midwest. Add in winter driving with heater set at 70 and heated seats on. Not being argumentative, honestly curious how big of an affect those things have on range.
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  761. [–]socsa 3 points 6 hours ago
  762. Like any car, the efficiency goes down with speed. I stay around 70-75 and that had never been an issue - AP also really helps you chill out and not want to speed as much. I've never been anywhere that going less than 80mph felt unsafe but ymmv.
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  766. [–]saml01. -4 points 1 hour ago
  767. Except electric motors are more efficient at higher speeds. Granted their is a peak before it degrades, but it's usually more efficient the faster you go.
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  772. The issue is wind resistance at higher speeds.
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  777. I drive for a living. A break every 2 hours to stretch is perfect.
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  782. The problem is it's a break every 2 hours for an hour. It's not a pee break and stretch. Its a big time sink when it accounts for 1/3 of your trip time.
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  787. Never said stop for an hour. I said a stop every two hours is nice.
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  792. I'm not disagreeing with you on the validity of breaks. I'm telling you the problem with the recharging. You are forced to stop for an hour...to wait for it to charge. If you stop 12 times you add 12 hours to your trip.
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  797. It's a 15 minute break on average at the supercharger though...
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  802. Oh, to get to 50%. I missed that. Takes 40 min to get to 80%.
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  806. [–]engineerbro222018 Model 3, 2016 Mustang 12 points 9 hours ago
  807. I haven't seen consumption that high - worst I've seen was in 0F I did 333 wh/mi in my MR RWD. But I don't speed - I suspect that might be part of it. Going 70 may have saved time vs 80, would be interesting to do the math.
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  809. I've done 800 mi/day in the Model 3, it's the best road tripper I've ever had.
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  813. [–]Creativeusername833Tesla P3D-, Jeep Gladiator[S] 6 points 9 hours ago
  814. That’s Nuts. My lifetime average is 333 but I do have the sleeper performance.
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  816. We definitely used less energy at 70, but when the speed limit is 75 we stuck around 79
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  823. Looking at the time estimates from abetterrouteplanner, I believe speeding is still faster despite the higher consumption due to the charging speeds of the Superchargers. That said, even a 5 mph difference has a big impact on consumption once you exceed 60 mph, and the time savings is apparently only about 5 minutes every 100 miles. This is true for all cars.
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  828. Also try using the heated seats function (back seats also for the dogs) rather than heating, as that can save a lot of energy too.
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  833. Yeah we definitely did that as well. The dogs are happiest when they’re cold too so nbd there haha.
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  838. Such fluffy bois
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  843. That still seems high. 333 is what I will average out to in cold weather doing a 10 mile commute with no battery conditioning (basically worst case conditions). Any trip I've taken longer than 50 miles or so brings it back down to 240-260 depending on elevation changes. I've never seen above 300 on a long drive.
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  848. With a model 3 you are faster by going as fast as you can (except in germany) and just charge more often.
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  853. Damn! Mine is 251 with the dual motor, but I'm in SoCal. Is there a better way to see it besides looking at the trip? I conveniently haven't used one of my trip meters but I wonder how to see if you have?
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  855. Looking to road trip soon, thanks for the post!
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  860. My lifetime average is 230 and I have 28k miles on mine now. LR RWD with aero wheels. Regularly drive 80 mph on the highway. Live in the northeast.
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  864. [–]UnitedMario 1 point 6 hours ago
  865. 333 lifetime!? You must really be enjoying the performance :)
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  867. I'm now ~255 lifetime in Texas, but was in the 230 range before a couple thousand mile trip with 75 mph speed limits. Of course, haven't had it in Winter yet..
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  872. I also drive with my thinsulate touch-screen gloves on and keep my winter coat on in the car, for what it's worth. That may have helped reduce the heater load - but I'd do that in a gas car too.
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  876. [–]Khal_Drogo'79 CJ7, E46 M3, '14 Ram 1500, '19 Pilot 2 points 7 hours ago
  877. why not just use the heater in a gas car? On roadtrips in winter I'll wear shorts and a t-shirt and I crank heat, heated seats, heated wheel.
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  881. [–]bluecifer7'14 2dr JK Wrangler 1 point 5 hours ago
  882. Not OP but I hate essentially undressing when I get into the car just so I can run the heat. I'd much rather just sit in a cold car with my jacket on that I was already wearing.
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  888. [–]Khal_Drogo'79 CJ7, E46 M3, '14 Ram 1500, '19 Pilot 2 points 5 hours ago
  889. I agree for 90% of my driving. But on road trips I like to be as comfy as possible.
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  894. Oh yeah that makes sense.
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  899. Honestly that's lame as fuck.
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  901. If I'm not going 85-90mph what the fuck is even the point of driving vs flying?
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  903. Going the speed limit is for old hags and the senile.
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  907. [–]DanielTigerUppercut17 Bolt | 05 Boxster S 3 points 7 hours ago
  908. The only way this gets better is if you upgrade to a Model S with air suspension and free Supercharging. Us non-Tesla owners envy your Superchargers!
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  912. [–]Creativeusername833Tesla P3D-, Jeep Gladiator[S] 2 points 2 hours ago
  913. I drove a friends spark EV about 6 months ago. Idk what it was maybe 120hp but 300+ lbs of torque. It was hilarious to drive around. I knew I wanted an electric car for a long time but range anxiety was my number one problem. The superchargers network and autopilot is what sold me on Tesla. Also I like feeling like I put my money where my mouth is and invested in the future of Tesla.
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  917. [–]DanielTigerUppercut17 Bolt | 05 Boxster S 1 point 1 hour ago
  918. I’m on my 3rd EV, they just keep getting better. Range anxiety has gone away with a 200+ mile battery, though road trips are relegated to my wife’s SUV or the Porsche.
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  922. [–]socsa 3 points 7 hours ago
  923. It was between 30-40 degrees out most of the trip, we averaged about 350KWH of consumption vs the rated 250
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  925. This is incorrect. Ambient temperatures only impact power draw from a cold start. Once the battery is warmed up, it does not have nearly this much impact on range. I have done this dozens of times in cold weather. If you are getting 350 wh/mi then it is because of elevation change, or your lead foot (which is understandable).
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  929. [–]Algeradd2019 Model 3 LR AWD, 1989 LX 5.0 2 points 6 hours ago
  930. Yeah, that mirrors what I've seen in cold driving too. I precondition and maintain climate control while I'm supercharging, and cold hasn't made nearly as much difference as the other uncontrollable factors (elevation and wind). If the sun is out it's even less of an issue since greenhouse effect heating goes a long way. I keep temperature comfortable and usually drive in jeans and a t-shirt in winter time. I've never felt the need to freeze myself to squeeze out a bit more range. I realize this may not be the case in the extreme North, but in places where winter is usually just a bit below freezing on average, it's not that bad.
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  934. [–]LVAjoe2004 350z Grand Touring 3 points 4 hours ago
  935. thanks for sharing this story! ive really been getting into the hybrid/electric car spirit this year and seeing this warms my heart about it. ive always felt an electric would be perfect to take dogs in since you gotta stop and charge anyway, its like a required break that benefits driver and dogs
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  939. [–]Algeradd2019 Model 3 LR AWD, 1989 LX 5.0 5 points 7 hours ago*
  940. I've done a fair amount of Tesla road-tripping, both in my S and my 3. A couple of observations I've made that you may or may not have thought about.
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  942. Wind is probably the biggest unknown factor that's going to affect you. A headwind will cause a huge range hit, and of course a good tailwind will help out a ton. I actually keep the weather app up on my watch while I'm driving so I can occasionally glance at the wind speed and direction if it seems like it's an issue.
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  944. Also noticed you didn't have the aero covers on your wheels in your pictures. That's obviously going to hurt your efficiency a bit too.
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  946. On the topic of speed, I like to set a baseline of 75 MPH when I'm leaving a supercharger and adjust my speed higher or lower based on how my efficiency is looking. The Trip tab on the Energy window is great for seeing how things are going during a leg and how your speed is affecting your destination range. If it's a short leg to the next supercharger, I'll often go quite a bit faster, but longer legs I'm usually much more conservative with obviously. I definitely don't stop at every charger I pass though. Usually it's more like every other one, depending on spacing.
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  948. All in all, I've done a decent share of long trips. Longest leg I've done in a single day was about 850 miles in one day in my S. Longest I've done in one direction was 1200 miles (over two days) in my 3. I personally enjoy it more than trips in my ICE cars. My stops usually correspond fairly well with bathroom/snack/meal breaks and I've rarely ever found myself actually sitting in the car waiting to get back on the road while it charges. The 3 is also better on trips than the S overall in my opinion if you don't need the extra space. The 3 charges faster, and honestly, I found the seats more comfortable for long stretches.
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  952. [–]LarryGergich 5 points 7 hours ago
  953. As more highspeed chargers get added to the roads it will get better too. Like you mention you dont stop at every charger, but if the next one is too far, you are forced to stop with some charge remaining. Because of the charge rate decreasing with charge, road trips will be most effecient when there are enough superchargers (or other brands) that you can comfortably run the battery down to single digit percent before stopping everytime.
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  957. [–]Algeradd2019 Model 3 LR AWD, 1989 LX 5.0 1 point 7 hours ago
  958. Yup. I target around 15-20% remaining for my supercharger stops ideally just to be on the safe side. If it's looking like I'll get there closer to say 30%, I'll speed up if possible. And then depending on the next planned stop, I'll usually charge up between 60-80%. It takes a little more thought than just "drive till the gas light comes up, then fill up at the next place", but it's not that hard at all with a little planning. I make a yearly family trip of about 850 miles one way around Christmas time, and between last year and now, two more superchargers have popped up along the way where there were gaps before, so we have even more options for stopping on that trip this year than we did last year.
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  963. Oh god headwinds. Hit a day of solid 30 mph headwinds going through the NV and CA deserts on my road trip. Driving an SR+ and its the only time I've had range anxiety. The energy calculations were telling me I should arrive with 30% charge and I was coming into the superchargers at 8-15%. Trying to stay efficient at 80mph with a 30 mph head wind doesn't work.
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  967. [–]hells_cowbells2014 Ford Fusion; 2000 Dodge Dakota 2 points 7 hours ago
  968. How long did it take to charge? Stopping every couple of hours and waiting for it to charge seems like it would be annoying.
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  972. [–]Creativeusername833Tesla P3D-, Jeep Gladiator[S] 3 points 7 hours ago
  973. 10-30 minutes. Never more than 35. Mostly we just did a quick 10 minutes every few hours and went on our way
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  977. [–]hells_cowbells2014 Ford Fusion; 2000 Dodge Dakota 3 points 7 hours ago
  978. Not too bad. Then again, I got curious and looked up locations for Tesla chargers in my state. There's two in the entire state. LOL.
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  982. [–]EngineNerding 1 point 5 minutes ago
  983. You start at home with a full charge and 325 miles of range every morning. Who cares what chargers are in your state? The important question is how many are in the states next door?
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  987. [–]Throwaway_Consoles08 WRX MT/99 Insight MT -2 points 6 hours ago
  988. If you’re curious you can go on https://www.tesla.com/trips and compare how long a trip would take in an ICE vs an EV.
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  992. [–]BahktoshRedclaw🅰 🆉 🆃 🅴 🅺 8 points 6 hours ago
  993. That's a terrible site for any use but marketing tesla. abetterrouteplanner.com is much more accurate if you want to plan out trips.
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  997. [–]Throwaway_Consoles08 WRX MT/99 Insight MT 1 point 3 hours ago
  998. If it’s for marketing Tesla it does a really shitty job. A route on Tesla’s website said 32 hours, a better route planner said 21 hours.
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  1000. I was recommending the Tesla website because the times compared to an ICE car were so bad.
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  1004. [–]-MGX-JackieChamp2018 Tesla Model 3 LR RWD 1 point 8 hours ago
  1005. Do you keep the back seats up or fold them down for the dogs? I always keep mine up and use a seat cover, but I've got a 570 mile road trip coming up next week and I'm wondering if it would be more comfy for the dog if the seats were down.
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  1007. Also love the red color, there aren't enough Model 3s in red!
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  1011. [–]Creativeusername833Tesla P3D-, Jeep Gladiator[S] 4 points 8 hours ago*
  1012. Thank you I love the red too. I wasn’t thrilled about paying $2000 for a color, considering I’ve bought miatas that run and drive for less, but having a red 3 is amazing. I almost never see them.
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  1014. I removed the back seat butt cushion and folded down the seats, plenty of room for three suitcases in the back and the dogs in the middle! https://i.imgur.com/sYKTUqF.jpg
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  1018. [–]-MGX-JackieChamp2018 Tesla Model 3 LR RWD 1 point 8 hours ago
  1019. Awesome thank you! I'll have to try that this weekend! Have fun with the dog hair, took me 2 hours with a Lilly Brush and vacuum to get all of my GSD's hair out.
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  1024. Part of the budget for the trip included an interior detail at the end 😂
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  1028. [–]LargeMontyJL Rubicon (2d), '11 Mustang GT, '10 Sequoia 1 point 7 hours ago
  1029. How well did that Land Cruiser hold value?
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  1033. [–]Creativeusername833Tesla P3D-, Jeep Gladiator[S] 2 points 7 hours ago
  1034. Drove it six months, put a set of tires on it, got my money back including taxes and a timing belt / water pump
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  1038. [–]Efulgrow 1 point 7 hours ago
  1039. I'm surprised that autopilot is the best thing abt the Tesla but maybe that comes down to preference. How would you compare it to adaptive cruise control and lane keep assist/lane centering from another brand, if you've tried any? I generally don't like even acc and it makes me doubt I'd like autopilot.
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  1043. [–]Creativeusername833Tesla P3D-, Jeep Gladiator[S] 2 points 7 hours ago
  1044. To be fair I’ve never used it from any other brand. Before my Tesla I drove 10-30 year old enthusiast cars.
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  1049. I see. Interesting to compare to gas cars. I generally think of daily driving as the best use case for Bev's : charge at home, evs are more efficient at city driving, cheaper, significantly less noise at low speeds. whereas road trip are the worse case scenario, bc: longer refueling times, more complicated logistics, anxiety from range. it seems like the Tesla fared pretty well in its worse case scenario, and that the supercharger network worked admirably.
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  1051. Sounds like the bigger difference for you personally may be old car vs new car. New cars are great for road trips bc: significantly less stressful, way less nvh, access to latest tech. I don't mind driving older cars but I certainly don't miss taking my 17 yo Subaru on road trips, that thing was a beast.
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  1056. Why didn't you put the aero caps back on? I know people don't like the look but the tests I have seen would have given you a 4 percent increase in efficiency which would have been significant over the distances you were driving. The performance is pretty thirsty though. I have a LR RWD that I have driven since may 2018 in Canada. So that is through one winter and the start of another now. My lifetime efficiency is 160 Whs a kms which works out to 258 Whs a mile so pretty close to rated. I have taken a few long trips and in summer it was easy get better then my 160 average. My one 1200 km trip was 156 Whs per km. Averaged 110-115 km/h (speed limits here are 100 km/h). It is the 80 MPH that is going to start killing your efficiency especially if you are driving into any headwind. If you are able to keep it to 70 MPH that will be a big help. Based on The Tesla Range charts going from 70 - 80 MPH in the Model 3 performance with 18s will decrease range by 50 miles.
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  1062. [–]Creativeusername833Tesla P3D-, Jeep Gladiator[S] 2 points 2 hours ago
  1063. I totally should have and am regretting that choice now
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  1068. Which wheels do you have?
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  1072. [–]rootusrootusTesla P3D+, 6G Camaro SS 1LE, EB F150 Screw 1 point 4 hours ago
  1073. Those are the base 18s
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  1077. [–]__real__talk__ 1 point 2 hours ago
  1078. Can you input your final destination from your starting point and the Tesla route you to your charging stops, or do you have to look for charging stops manually? Can the Tesla adjust charging stops based on driving situations? For example, first calculation was 200 miles away, but due to excess electricity use, a new stop will be added?
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  1082. [–]Creativeusername833Tesla P3D-, Jeep Gladiator[S] 1 point 2 hours ago
  1083. Yeah and that’s what we did. When we were going I’d calculate how far the next stop or the next two stops are and make a decision there. Sometimes I stopped and sometimes I kept going, depending on battery. It was like a puzzle / game
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  1088. Does the Tesla calculate it itself, or you did the calculations manually?
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  1092. [–]Creativeusername833Tesla P3D-, Jeep Gladiator[S] 2 points 2 hours ago
  1093. Both. It will tell you to stay under 75 to reach your destination or it will tell you to stop at the closer one if you have to. It is pretty smart. Of course we had a lot of time to fiddle with it so we checked various routes and charters and figured out what we thought was best. On the way back I’m going to aim to stop less and get more battery.
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  1098. Awesome!
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  1102. [–]YungLatinoPerson 1 point 2 hours ago*
  1103. Hey! I'm from Long Island! First of all, Welcome to Long Island. Second, How do you like our drunk drivers so far? Third, You really and I mean really should check out our Highways and car meets here during the summer if you get the opportunity. There is nothing like it.
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  1107. [–]Creativeusername833Tesla P3D-, Jeep Gladiator[S] 2 points 2 hours ago
  1108. I was here this summer and saw a fleet of 20+ Aston martins drive through Huntington. I’d love to come out and check out the car scene. It’s pretty big in Colorado too!
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  1112. [–]YungLatinoPerson 1 point 1 hour ago
  1113. That's awesome! I remember passing by the Brookhaven Town Hall one day and there were dozens of cars either parked on both sides of the road or driving away. I'll never forget it. I remember seeing EVO's, STI's, BMW's, old school (at least to us Gen Z's) Civic's, you name it, Foreign and Domestic. However, once I saw a black and a red MK4 Supra (both my favorite colors on my dream car) pass me by I was so excited I ended up speeding on the way home most of the time. Unfortunately, as I was leaving I did see multiple cops trying to kick the group off the street because they were causing a little traffic.
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  1117. [–]FatherPhil991.1 C4 | E90 330i | Save the Manuals 1 point 1 hour ago
  1118. No joke, I did Denver CO to Port Washington NY not too long ago with two other guys in a 1968 Dodge Dart. Took about 36 hours, with stops for gas and food. Honestly that’s not much faster than you did it. It was a blast. Would do it again.
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  1123. Congrats on the upcoming nuptials. Why Long Island?
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  1125. Just curious; I live here.
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  1129. [–]Creativeusername833Tesla P3D-, Jeep Gladiator[S] 2 points 1 hour ago
  1130. Family lives here
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  1136. [–]Apollo_542 -1 points 6 hours ago
  1137. Eh I’ll stick with my jetta turbo diesel, don’t get me wrong I love Tesla and the line of cars they have but if you don’t live in an area that is fairly well populated then owning a Tesla is quite useless, all of my family lives up north in Indiana in quite literally middle of no where.
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  1141. [–]rootusrootusTesla P3D+, 6G Camaro SS 1LE, EB F150 Screw 1 point 4 hours ago
  1142. Indiana is pretty small, looks like about the farthest distance between any superchargers is ~120 mi, which is well within a Model 3's range even if you've got a serious lead foot problem.
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  1147. have they fixed the severe build quality issues yet?
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  1151. [–]Creativeusername833Tesla P3D-, Jeep Gladiator[S] 2 points 2 hours ago
  1152. I have literally no complaints. Also my car is faster than when I bought it from an OTA update. Thanks Elon
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  1157. It's interesting that to break even you need to go 200k miles. There's no way the battery pack lasts that long and I doubt the replacement will be under 6k.
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