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  2. Alexander !KrysTaLpiAToday at 5:42 AM
  3. What are you asking here.
  4. People who aren't cut out for college shouldn't be in high school?
  5. FlorxToday at 5:42 AM
  6. No..?
  7. "What happens if they aren't cut out for those first two years"
  8. Then they probably aren't cut out for the rest of college
  9. Alexander !KrysTaLpiAToday at 5:44 AM
  10. You're the one making it seem like people have these first two years of college for free like some kind of drug sample.
  11. And if they can't take any more of it, then they drop out, waste two years of their lives, thousands of dollars of educational subsidies and get nothing?
  12. FlorxToday at 5:44 AM
  13. I mean
  14. If you didn't completely flunk out, you'd still leave with an Associate's
  15. Ideally you should measure yourself for that first year or so
  16. Decide if it's something you believe you can handle
  17. And if you can, but you're having trouble, you work harder and keep going
  18. If you can't, you cut your losses and leave
  19. That's how life works with virtually anything
  20. Do you think they should get some pansy-ass conciliation prize instead?
  21. Alexander !KrysTaLpiAToday at 5:46 AM
  22. What the hell is an associates
  23. FlorxToday at 5:46 AM
  24. It's a degree
  25. Lower than a bachelor's
  26. Alexander !KrysTaLpiAToday at 5:47 AM
  27. Why not just make an associates be what you get at the end of high school.
  28. FlorxToday at 5:47 AM
  29. Because that's a diploma
  30. Alexander !KrysTaLpiAToday at 5:47 AM
  31. Precisely
  32. FlorxToday at 5:47 AM
  33. it is awarded after a course of post-secondary study lasting two or three years where it is a level of qualification between a high school diploma or GED and a bachelor's degree.
  34. They're two different things
  35. A diploma means you went to school, which you're legally required to go to, short of some various exemptions
  36. An associate's means you got off your ass and did something with your life for 2-3 years
  37. Alexander !KrysTaLpiAToday at 5:49 AM
  38. Is a high school diploma useful?
  39. FlorxToday at 5:50 AM
  40. Generally, yes
  41. If you don't have a diploma, or a GED, you're going to have a hard time getting a job if you don't have any experience otherwise
  42. Mr. AnonToday at 5:50 AM
  43. Is going to school at all useful :ThinkingChromosomes:
  44. FlorxToday at 5:50 AM
  45. Debateable:
  46. Addendum*
  47. Is going to school useful? Yes
  48. Alexander !KrysTaLpiAToday at 5:51 AM
  49. Would you trust a high school graduate with real world tasks.
  50. FlorxToday at 5:51 AM
  51. Is going to school more useful/cost effective than educating yourself through self-study?
  52. Mr. AnonToday at 5:51 AM
  53. Pick your battles @Florx
  54. FlorxToday at 5:51 AM
  55. That's a bigger question
  56. I would trust a high-school graduate with certain tasks, to then further assess their capbilities
  57. Then at a later date sit them down to talk to them about their performance, and whether or not I believe they're a good fit
  58. If I were an empoloyer, that is
  59. Alexander !KrysTaLpiAToday at 5:52 AM
  60. Would you trust an associates holder any further than a high school graduate? How much further? Does this justify spending the time and money you would spend to get an associates?
  61. FlorxToday at 5:53 AM
  62. I would trust someone with an associate's of science with a focus in computer science to do the same basic tasks that involve computers which I do, more than I would trust a high school graduate
  63. My time in college has allowed me to get a job which has more than paid for what I put into college
  64. I cannot speak for every other field, as I have no experience in them, but I imagine that it would be similar.
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